I was also really confused as well with the editing for the whole back half of the episode. my wife and i actually thought for a bit it broken into a dream sequence or altered reality or something. we eventually wrote off the scattered nature of the action and through lines (and off-model marcille XD) to the back half of the episode being from izutsumi's perspective bc of she's only paying attn to the parts she cares about
I love how in the manga you can't really see the wolves face under the speech bubble so in the anime they interpreted it as "the wolf is fully cringing at laios' imitation of dog sound" they probably left out of second hand embarrassment rather then fear
I love how we see how Senshi got more accepting of magic with time. Here they use Marcile's magic circle instead of Senshi insisting on "doing it the traditional way"
About marcille losing track of her staff, those panels aren't actually missing however I don't think it's done well because the shot of marcille falling happens in the background and is almost entirely obscured by laios in the foreground. I only noticed this because I knew to look for it, which makes it useless for conveying that information to an audience that hasn't already read the manga
Oh, wow, I didn't even notice and I was looking for it in my second viewing. The problem is not just that it is obscured by Laios (though that doesn't help), but that is is so far away and blurry it is impossible to tell what happened to the staff. Like, even if Laios wasn't there, I don't think anyone would be able to tell the staff got left behind. As you said, it is completely useless at conveying information if you don't already know what is happening. Thanks for pointing it out the scene is technically there though. I don't know if this make the choice better or worse, but it is interesting to know somebody took the trouble to animate it, even though it was completely useless at information conveying.
Oh that’s what happened? Wow they really dropped the ball there cause I made me tune out of the episode, it felt like I’d suddenly skipped a few minutes of scenes and got very confused.
This is probably my favorite episode so far. I love the more catgirl heavy chapters and I'm so happy to see the start of her and Chilchuck's friendship. The dad and the cat he didn't want is probably the funniest relationship dynamic.
Damn I was just looking at your "woah hey" in different languages vid, and then you drop this banger, excellent timing, now I get something to watch while eating my pizza thanks
The other changes were more subtle and I just assumed it was specifically to highlight Izutsumi's catlike agility with the extra smoothness but I definitely felt the misalignment on that shot of her and the ice golem where they're on different layers. Still, a nitpick in what is ultimately an incredible episode with the single funniest frame so far, *faithfully recreated* indeed.
@@Edujs23Both characters are from the eastern lands (aka Japan), Shuro being a samurai for his class and Izutsumi being a ninja for hers, is probably what OP was getting at.
I thinked about what happened to Marcille staff. Sad that Trigger cutout that scene, because some people were confused about this why she try to find a replacement staff.
Even in the manga I didn't make the connection tbh. Also, the anime cuts out Chilchuck supporting Laios, making it unclear as to why Marcille feels alright with going after Izutsumi
im glad they made laios a THICK boy in the show and manga, alot of animes do this and it gets boring to see perfectly muscular, skinny and toned characters, laios is a DUNGEON ADVENTURER, not a bodybuilder so it makes alot of sense why he doesnt have 54 pack abs but still has muscular (but undefined) arms and pecs. also that boy got some tiddies on him, them things is HEFTY, gahdamn.
way too many of those character look like they need a sandwhich. I cant help but think its just a standardization to make animating them easier but i wish there was a bit of variation.
I mean, you can’t make a series about eating and not give your character some fat lol. He’s a very healthy guy and that layer of fat over muscle shows that. I love how diverse the characters’ bodies/silhouettes are in this series.
@@theliato3809 it might be because may Japanese artists are drawing upon their own experiences when designing characters. Asian folks tend to be skinner than westerners so that carries over to their art
I had an another qualm with this episode, which was the end of Izutsumi's killing blow jump on the ice golem. Her landing was a bit unnaturally light and stiff. Yeah, she ain't the heaviest hitter, but that hit missed some oomph and release of tension. For an economical solution they coulda just gone with a smash cut closeup of her "charging her strike up" before another one of the arrow piercing the ice and the token.
Yeah that is also my biggest nitpick of the episode. When she lands on the golem, the animation really doesnt convey her having enough momentum to drive the arrow into the ice. It kinda looks like it just slides in.
@@maiz_kolbe5030 Yeah, that and the poor showing of what happened to Marcille with the wolf situation and her staff were the first "sloppy" instances of storyboarding and animation I've felt in the anime. It is an outsourced episode, so I hope it isn't a tell of a strained production, and the overall story is still great, but I can't lie, it has me very slightly worried.
Thank you so much for this! I was wondering why the vibes felt off during the action scenes. Turns out it was because it was a studio with a different style doing them.
well I see no one saying, but they changed the ilustration of the ending (the last one with all the party and Fallin) to add Izutsumi too!! (Made too by Kui!)
This episode felt really concise, as well as its analysis, but I guess you're saving room for the last four. The shift in style was noticeable indeed, but also how the flow changed on the second half. I guess Trigger will focus on leaving a lasting impression this end of season with the next episodes 🪙
Another banger video! Love how much extra context you provide in these videos! Even though I'm reading the manga alongside this too. Speaking of, even when i was reading the manga I didn't notice Marcille losing Ambrosia. I think its really interesting that her staff itself isn't directly important but that she could use anything to focus her spells better than with just her hands. Super loved Itzutsumi just tee-heeing the fuck off during the wolf fight. I totally agree that the unripe barometz was so much grosser in color
6:43 I also found it weird so I had to backtrack in the ep. Turns out it's in the blurry background behind Laios right after he goes down, weird choice but it's still included even if the blur and distance makes it very very easy to miss.
ngl this episode felt really wonky and different to me animation-wise. but that scene of the unripe barometz being cut open was amazing, it has to be the first time i could relate to marcille's reaction to eating monsters..
Your videos are super helpfull for me bc i tend to skip over this kinda details that my eye actually catches by being inmersed so much i forget someone made those details for me to notice them😂 And to help me know about all the missing pannels of the manga for more context on the why of certain scenes, like Marcille's staff missing out of nowhere in the anime. So i always apreciate your uploads on Dungeon Meshi, please keep making them ❤🙏🏻
Love these chapters and the food was definitely uncomfortably realistic at times (compliment). I am quite disappointed in how they portrayed Marcille rescuing Izutsumi: I really liked how she slowly shambles out of complete darkness to say to close the eyes frantically so much so that the last word is not even in a speech bubble anymore but rather a sfx... Here we have silly elf stumbles around mumbling to close the eyes before casting and it's definitely much less dramatic...
Also, isn't it like at least the third time they forgot to add the set-up but still show the pay-off? Both when Chilchuck complained about the wasting money when butchering the dragon and when reaching this floor and were surprised by the cold? Meh...
i just realised i probably don't comment enough, but maaaan, these reviews are so good! i'm literally living from episode to the analysis to the next episode this couple of months. brilliant, brilliant work!
Next week SHOULD be mah boi Mithrun, if the anime follows manga 👀✨ My concern: There's 4 episodes left. There's also 4 chapters of this manga volume left. :l they usually cover 2-3 chapters per anime episode. Are they going to start the next one, or stretch out the ones left? :l I honestly hope that they rearrange the chapters a bit and combine the mithrun scenes 😅 (mostly because I'm greedy and don't want to have only like 3 phrases from him until we MAYBE get another season 😅😅)
@swamp-john 7:25 slight spoilers for everyone else (Tread with caution. ) . . . . . No seriously. . . . Can you take a look at laios's sword, episode21? I've tried looking back on my own and it doesn't seem to change. Until it's directly mentioned. (Hope i did this the right way. 😅)
I don't get why they skip so many important parts, like I felt dumb when Marcille was looking for a new staff because I thought she lost it earlier and I didn't realise when in reality they just didn't show it. I really like this show but I shouldn't have to look at a YT video to understand this stuff
Probably the first episode where it felt like I was better off reading the manga. The pacing of the wolves was so bad, I'd probably skip watching this episode if I rewatched it.
Well like chilchuck🧅 she is pretty young and he should be more appreciative of Izasumi🐈⬛ joining the party he doesn't have to be the one cuddled or patted now
This feels too early to speculate, but to the manga readers here.... (SPOILERS) Do y'all think there will be a Season 2 based on how far they are in the manga (halfway in the chapters) and how many episodes there are left? It seems there's too little time...
AFAIK Trigger hasn't announced any new upcoming series in their schedule, so I assume they're going to continue production. 2 seasons of 2 cours seems about right for Dungeon Meshi, but because the last few chapters are very impressionistic they could probably fit it into one more cour if they really rushed it.
The reason why Laios was so obsessed with seeing Izutsumi's nipples was because they took his 😢
AHAHAHAHA
Thank you for the good laugh ahaha
many such cases
He thought he could borrow a pair since she has 8
Nah... just scientific curiosity.... maybe....
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The part where Marcille falls isn't missing. It just happens in the background, but it's so subtle I didn't even notice the first time.
I was pretty confused in the wolf sequence because of that.
I was also really confused as well with the editing for the whole back half of the episode. my wife and i actually thought for a bit it broken into a dream sequence or altered reality or something. we eventually wrote off the scattered nature of the action and through lines (and off-model marcille XD) to the back half of the episode being from izutsumi's perspective bc of she's only paying attn to the parts she cares about
I love how in the manga you can't really see the wolves face under the speech bubble so in the anime they interpreted it as "the wolf is fully cringing at laios' imitation of dog sound" they probably left out of second hand embarrassment rather then fear
I love how we see how Senshi got more accepting of magic with time. Here they use Marcile's magic circle instead of Senshi insisting on "doing it the traditional way"
One of my favorite moments was just, cutting to Laios chilling out in the snow nearly naked. My boy is just built different.
"Meanwhile in Finland"
Those damn Nordics...
He is a husky
About marcille losing track of her staff, those panels aren't actually missing however I don't think it's done well because the shot of marcille falling happens in the background and is almost entirely obscured by laios in the foreground. I only noticed this because I knew to look for it, which makes it useless for conveying that information to an audience that hasn't already read the manga
Oh, wow, I didn't even notice and I was looking for it in my second viewing. The problem is not just that it is obscured by Laios (though that doesn't help), but that is is so far away and blurry it is impossible to tell what happened to the staff. Like, even if Laios wasn't there, I don't think anyone would be able to tell the staff got left behind. As you said, it is completely useless at conveying information if you don't already know what is happening.
Thanks for pointing it out the scene is technically there though. I don't know if this make the choice better or worse, but it is interesting to know somebody took the trouble to animate it, even though it was completely useless at information conveying.
yeah i had to pause and explain it to my mom
Oh that’s what happened? Wow they really dropped the ball there cause I made me tune out of the episode, it felt like I’d suddenly skipped a few minutes of scenes and got very confused.
This is probably my favorite episode so far. I love the more catgirl heavy chapters and I'm so happy to see the start of her and Chilchuck's friendship. The dad and the cat he didn't want is probably the funniest relationship dynamic.
Damn I was just looking at your "woah hey" in different languages vid, and then you drop this banger, excellent timing, now I get something to watch while eating my pizza thanks
The other changes were more subtle and I just assumed it was specifically to highlight Izutsumi's catlike agility with the extra smoothness but I definitely felt the misalignment on that shot of her and the ice golem where they're on different layers. Still, a nitpick in what is ultimately an incredible episode with the single funniest frame so far, *faithfully recreated* indeed.
my favorite thing abt this episode’s Dog Laios moment is the look of utter discomfort on the wolves’ faces LMAO
Wow I never noticed the tail movement conveying her emotions. The attention to details is something else
Only realized recently, even after completing the manga, that Senshi replaces Komari and Izutsumi replaces shuro.
Who's Komari? Lol I guess that's autocorrect's fault
I dont think shuro is even close to being as Agile as Izutsumi
@@Edujs23Both characters are from the eastern lands (aka Japan), Shuro being a samurai for his class and Izutsumi being a ninja for hers, is probably what OP was getting at.
@@arcturionblade1077 I think they mean namari the dwarf
Senshi replaces only the previous lack of Senshi.
I empathize with Laios very much in this episode, never had a cat, don't know how they tick, would be scratched in the face a lot by izutsumi as well.
I thinked about what happened to Marcille staff. Sad that Trigger cutout that scene, because some people were confused about this why she try to find a replacement staff.
Even in the manga I didn't make the connection tbh. Also, the anime cuts out Chilchuck supporting Laios, making it unclear as to why Marcille feels alright with going after Izutsumi
im glad they made laios a THICK boy in the show and manga, alot of animes do this and it gets boring to see perfectly muscular, skinny and toned characters, laios is a DUNGEON ADVENTURER, not a bodybuilder so it makes alot of sense why he doesnt have 54 pack abs but still has muscular (but undefined) arms and pecs. also that boy got some tiddies on him, them things is HEFTY, gahdamn.
I tired of slim people in anime. Not only women.
Couldn't agree more
way too many of those character look like they need a sandwhich. I cant help but think its just a standardization to make animating them easier but i wish there was a bit of variation.
I mean, you can’t make a series about eating and not give your character some fat lol. He’s a very healthy guy and that layer of fat over muscle shows that. I love how diverse the characters’ bodies/silhouettes are in this series.
@@theliato3809 it might be because may Japanese artists are drawing upon their own experiences when designing characters. Asian folks tend to be skinner than westerners so that carries over to their art
I had an another qualm with this episode, which was the end of Izutsumi's killing blow jump on the ice golem. Her landing was a bit unnaturally light and stiff. Yeah, she ain't the heaviest hitter, but that hit missed some oomph and release of tension. For an economical solution they coulda just gone with a smash cut closeup of her "charging her strike up" before another one of the arrow piercing the ice and the token.
Yeah that is also my biggest nitpick of the episode. When she lands on the golem, the animation really doesnt convey her having enough momentum to drive the arrow into the ice. It kinda looks like it just slides in.
yea even when watching that for the first time i was really surprised at that moment for how weird it looked
@@maiz_kolbe5030 Yeah, that and the poor showing of what happened to Marcille with the wolf situation and her staff were the first "sloppy" instances of storyboarding and animation I've felt in the anime. It is an outsourced episode, so I hope it isn't a tell of a strained production, and the overall story is still great, but I can't lie, it has me very slightly worried.
Thank you so much for this! I was wondering why the vibes felt off during the action scenes. Turns out it was because it was a studio with a different style doing them.
well I see no one saying, but they changed the ilustration of the ending (the last one with all the party and Fallin) to add Izutsumi too!! (Made too by Kui!)
This episode felt really concise, as well as its analysis, but I guess you're saving room for the last four. The shift in style was noticeable indeed, but also how the flow changed on the second half. I guess Trigger will focus on leaving a lasting impression this end of season with the next episodes 🪙
my biggest critique is that the blindfolded laios mistaking senshi's thigh for marcille's gag didnt translate very well and that makes me very sad
Oh man, so happy to see your video, love your analysis.
Another banger video! Love how much extra context you provide in these videos! Even though I'm reading the manga alongside this too. Speaking of, even when i was reading the manga I didn't notice Marcille losing Ambrosia. I think its really interesting that her staff itself isn't directly important but that she could use anything to focus her spells better than with just her hands. Super loved Itzutsumi just tee-heeing the fuck off during the wolf fight. I totally agree that the unripe barometz was so much grosser in color
6:43 I also found it weird so I had to backtrack in the ep. Turns out it's in the blurry background behind Laios right after he goes down, weird choice but it's still included even if the blur and distance makes it very very easy to miss.
God I love how Izutsumi scratches people when she's upset. She is so cat
ngl this episode felt really wonky and different to me animation-wise. but that scene of the unripe barometz being cut open was amazing, it has to be the first time i could relate to marcille's reaction to eating monsters..
Your videos are super helpfull for me bc i tend to skip over this kinda details that my eye actually catches by being inmersed so much i forget someone made those details for me to notice them😂
And to help me know about all the missing pannels of the manga for more context on the why of certain scenes, like Marcille's staff missing out of nowhere in the anime.
So i always apreciate your uploads on Dungeon Meshi, please keep making them ❤🙏🏻
I LOVE GOLEMS SO MUCH THIS WAS SUCH A GREAT EPISODE
Perfect start to my week
Love these chapters and the food was definitely uncomfortably realistic at times (compliment).
I am quite disappointed in how they portrayed Marcille rescuing Izutsumi: I really liked how she slowly shambles out of complete darkness to say to close the eyes frantically so much so that the last word is not even in a speech bubble anymore but rather a sfx... Here we have silly elf stumbles around mumbling to close the eyes before casting and it's definitely much less dramatic...
Also, isn't it like at least the third time they forgot to add the set-up but still show the pay-off? Both when Chilchuck complained about the wasting money when butchering the dragon and when reaching this floor and were surprised by the cold? Meh...
i just realised i probably don't comment enough, but maaaan, these reviews are so good! i'm literally living from episode to the analysis to the next episode this couple of months. brilliant, brilliant work!
Channel continues to be a weekly highlight, awesome work dude!
Damn so much animation analysis fit into just 8 minutes!!! youre good at this
Great video!
Marcilles missing staff did have me confused!
I get just as excited for these analysis videos as I do for the actual episode
I have been loving these break downs. After the DM anime is complete, consider doing another series that was adapted from a manga like this.
Next week SHOULD be mah boi Mithrun, if the anime follows manga 👀✨
My concern:
There's 4 episodes left.
There's also 4 chapters of this manga volume left. :l they usually cover 2-3 chapters per anime episode.
Are they going to start the next one, or stretch out the ones left? :l
I honestly hope that they rearrange the chapters a bit and combine the mithrun scenes 😅
(mostly because I'm greedy and don't want to have only like 3 phrases from him until we MAYBE get another season 😅😅)
I THOUGHT NEXT WEEK WE'D GET LION MENTION!!!!
ARE WE GONNA GET BOTH??? TWO BANGERS IN ONE????
The animation team really had fun with the ice! Maybe a bit too much... 7:05
I was actually confused where her staff went. Thank you.
The whole thing with Marcille staff was very confusing as an anime only viewer.
aw i missed the food animation analysis from this episode :(
Good stuff as always, keep it up!
time for my weekly mandatory supplementary swamp jawn content
Now i can see the next episode when its out.
@swamp-john 7:25 slight spoilers for everyone else (Tread with caution. )
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Can you take a look at laios's sword, episode21? I've tried looking back on my own and it doesn't seem to change. Until it's directly mentioned. (Hope i did this the right way. 😅)
they basically acquired an unexpected companion. as they say, you dont choose cat, cat chooses you
I don't get why they skip so many important parts, like I felt dumb when Marcille was looking for a new staff because I thought she lost it earlier and I didn't realise when in reality they just didn't show it. I really like this show but I shouldn't have to look at a YT video to understand this stuff
I think Road to the Top is so good. So pretty. My fave of all the Umamusume stuff
My favourite part is where Laios is calm, but still blindfolded. Like, my dude's scientific uges are calmed, why is he still bound?!
Any scene with a cat is Best scene, no contest.
Probably the first episode where it felt like I was better off reading the manga. The pacing of the wolves was so bad, I'd probably skip watching this episode if I rewatched it.
You should see the water + freeze animation from the recent KonoSuba Episode.
4:42 this flip is called a branny
the staff thing bothered me as well, good catch.
If Im correct next week is the waterways episode.
I watch Dungeon Meshi every Thursday hoping to have a date with you every week ;)
Well like chilchuck🧅 she is pretty young and he should be more appreciative of Izasumi🐈⬛ joining the party he doesn't have to be the one cuddled or patted now
He shouldn't celebrate. She's going to turn him into her own personal pillow.
Would a Vegetarian or Vegan be alright with eating the Barometz fruit/vegetable
Also, at 3:22 was that your 5 kitty cameo?
nekomusume
Tasty breakdown
6:05 WHEN WHERE WHAT CHAPTER WHAT EPISODE
Watch the spanish dub
6:00 okay well maybe dont word it like that
Article , Where ?
No foreshadowing in this breakdown?😪
Idk why but i expected the guys in the steam scene to be more hairy ya know
im pretty sure Ryoko Kui once said she believed Senshi had more body hair but omitted it, probably for an easier drawing experience
Bodyhair is a bitch to consistently draw
Whwres the article on cygames in the dezription
Ah! I forgot to put it in there, thank you for reminding me!
It's there now.
Catgirl supremacy
This feels too early to speculate, but to the manga readers here.... (SPOILERS)
Do y'all think there will be a Season 2 based on how far they are in the manga (halfway in the chapters) and how many episodes there are left? It seems there's too little time...
AFAIK Trigger hasn't announced any new upcoming series in their schedule, so I assume they're going to continue production. 2 seasons of 2 cours seems about right for Dungeon Meshi, but because the last few chapters are very impressionistic they could probably fit it into one more cour if they really rushed it.
Laios its a biologist, but, something tell me if see watch her body cat, I think something start grow in Laios...
I did not like the animation this week. It felt really off compared to the rest of the anime. It took me out of the anime a couple times.
been a bit meh for 3 episodes ngl
yes there’s no action for quite a while! This is the part of the anime/manga where big lore drops happen and new characters are introduced
Marcile: _"Hey Laios, how did you sleep last night? That new cat girl was all over the place!"_
Laios: _* 👃👃👃 👃 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👃👃👃👃👃👃👃👃👃👃👃👃👃👃👃👃👃👃👃 *_
Cat-pilled.