5 Reasons why I left the Fuji X-T2 for the X-Pro2
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- In this video I try to explain why the Fujifilm X-T2 just didn’t sit with me. I am much happier after switching to the X-Pro2. All of it is of course just personal preference based on how I like my cameras. And the X-T2 is also a great camera, truly fantastic.
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5 Reasons why I can't leave the Fuji X-T2 for the X-Pro2:
1. I have no money
Now days that is the unfortunate truth. When this video was made the Pro was cheaper.
A couple of days ago I saw an ad for a used X-Pro2 here in my hometown and I took a shot and asked if the seller was willing to make a switch instead. I had a X100F with a teleconverter to accompany my X-T2, but I was never a fan of it's grip so it wasn't used as much as it deserved. To my surprise the seller that walked in to my office was Mattias and it is this very X-Pro2 that I'm now the proud owner of :-) I've never met him before but I have gathered by his pictures that he also lives here in Västerås. I used to have a X-Pro2 that I bought new when it came out, had it for a year and then sold it to get the X-T2 but I've been longing for it ever since. It's a camera that inspires me more than any other camera that I've ever owned and it's a fun little bonus that this copy has belonged to Mattias, who is easily one of my top ten youtubers (and as it turns out, really nice in person as well) /Kjell
Kjell Andersson It was nice doing business with you :)
That's HILARIOUS!
@@gearreallydoesntmatter so why did you sell the X-Pro 2?
For another youtube video perhaps
Koolt som fan 😂
I'm *definitely* getting an X-Pro 2 ! WIth a 23mm f1.4 lens - I've been away from photography for too long. It's time to come home :)
Jez I AM did u get it in the end ?
Matthias I really like your matter of fact and relaxed videos. They are informative and good fun. Keep them coming!
As a French Bulldog owner, I don't know what I like better, the review and comparison of 2 cameras I'm comparing for purchase or the shots of the beautiful Frenchie. Thanks for the video.
I recently got the a7 with an voigtländer 35mm but after I tried the Xpro2 from my cousin I sold the old system and switched to Fuji. I was missing sooo much the last years. Fuji made me love taking images again
I'm very tempted to do the same. I love my A7 but Fuji has been really tempting me lately. I may look into the x100 series as the 28mm lives on my A7 anyway.
HapaSnacks Then you should check out the X70. Its a 28mm equivalent.
I had a tough time deciding between these two cameras but I'm sold on the XT-2 for the type of photography I do. It's very versatile and the ability to add a grip for extended battery, boost mode and to balance out of heavy lenses was better choice for someone like me. Like you said, it's personal preference. As this will be my only camera right now, the XT-2 is the right way to go because of the video features and the versatility.
BECAUSE OF YOU!!!
I sold my X-T2 and bought X-Pro2, but damn! i love it.
Im glad. Used my X-pro2 at work today in a run-n-gun situation, bad lighting and all the pictures came out great :)
I'm a left eye user so can't keep both eyes open. Was in artillery so we fired both eyes shut anyway. Leftiness also prevents the desire to buy thumbs ups :)
when I enter your channel i feel like that I'm in a very wonderful place
Yeah, between his voice and the music, plus the fine photos, it's just a nice place to spend time.
Thanks for video! 2 Years with X-Pro2 and happy with it, not considering switch to X-T2/X-H1 and patiently waiting for X-Pro3:))
Good video. X pro 2 for me also. It's the best creative camera I've used to date including my DSLR's.
another beautiful experience Mattias, thank you kindly ; )
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Got an xpro 1 back in Feb for a great deal and I absolutely love it despite it's quirks.
Xpro2 does 4k now through firmware update
"a naiiiiice platform, I liiiiike...!"
Im buying the X-t3 now and once the xpro3 is released im switching for sure
Too slow. You need the new XT6 to be a true photographer. XT3 is so yesterday and is made in China. XT6 returned to Japan.
Thanks Mattias, you make any camera and lens look good. I tried the X-Pro1 en route from Canon to Sony. Loved the color and lenses, hated the shooting experience. Everyone says the X-Pro2 is miles better than its predecessor.
I did go the safe way and use both, they have their strong points for different themes. The T is necessary for long zooms, the Pro with a wooden grip and the thumb has a better hold, and is great with primes. it would be too hard to choose one, as both are excellent tools (right after my most beloved camera, the GR which is simply brilliant - Fuji, go for some seminars to Ricoh and learn about customization).
SakiniCZ Fuji also needs to learn about snap. In exchange they can enlighten Ricoh about tilt screens :)
Hi SakiniCZ, why T is necessary for long zooms ? Does the XPro 2 not working well with tele lens ?
was about to get a xt 2, now i have to rethink about getting a xpro 2. Come to think of it, never had my hands on the xpro 2, maybe i should try it。。
You should definitely try it if you can.
You would get a great camera either way.
Yeah easy call imo, the x pro 2 just has something to it
If was a street shooter, I'd get the XPro2 as well.
Either camera and I'll be a happy man ✨
I rented both for a week of testing. Ending up spending most of my time with the Pro-2. There were a few specific reasons (rangefinder setup mainly) but mostly I just preferred the shooting experience. When given the choice it was the camera I just wanted to pick up. One big complaint (and the one that has kept me from buying one) is the fiddly combined ISO/Shutter Speed Dial. I know it's film/retro cool, but it's just such a pain to use in the real world. The numbers on the ISO dial are very difficult to read, so most time I was confirming my settings via the LCD or EVF. I also found it annoying that when you changed shutter speed you also changed the orientation of the ISO Dial view window. For example, at one point the numbers were completely upside down. And finally, about half the time I changed ISO I also inadvertently changed the shutter speed. Just a really poor design IMHO.
(FYI, I've heard rumors that they are coming out with a firmware update that will allow ISO to be set using the Front Command Dial just like the X-100T. But as of 7/19/17 that had yet to happen. Come on Fuji! Just admit it was a bad design and give us a work-around)
I can live with it but also agree. Its strange you can't do like I can on my X100f.
In the same way I hate that the x100f can't map the video button like the xpro2.
I'm sure somewhere inside Fuji there were people who loved that combo-dial and some people who feel like I do. If they make ISO controllable via the Front Command Dial they're admitting it was a bad design. That brings pride and someone's reputation into the conversation. Japanese companies are not prone to admitting mistakes, but I think they need to make an exception here. Myself and several people I know (6 actually) who are potential Pro-2 customers are waiting for this update before making a purchase. I know it seems like a small thing but cameras are very tactile and for a camera like this that is SO much about the shooting experience, it's a big deal.
Did you find any difficulty in EVF. Like it is very small compare to xt-2. Did you find any problem with that. I like xpro2 but still confused with the evf it's very small. Plz guide. Thank you
If you just compare EVF's than the one in the X-T2 is clearly superior. Larger, brighter, and just better overall. But the one in the Pro-2 is more than adequate and certainly not bad enough to get anyone to go with the X-T2 if their prefer the Pro-2. I did end up purchasing an X-Pro-2 and must say, so far, I've been delighted with the camera, shooting experience, and the images.
Thanks a lot Tom, that means evf is not a deal breaker😊
yeah, i really wish fuji would just put a normal shutter button on there. i hate the wiggly feel too
X Pro 2 seems to do almost everything except 4K. So not a bad choice.
sudip biswas Soon it will go 4K as well (firmware update).
Sagi K. Can't be more happy... Great announcement by Fuji.
Its 4K now as of 23Dec2017!
... so... basically you put it down to which user interface you like the most? Understandable, as the camera is a tool that should work for and not against you. Happy shooting :-)
User interface + features was the reason why I ended up with the XT2... probably a wery identical process (?) but with a different outcome :-) And what tipped the scale for me?
- I do not like range finder style (probably because I have only used it once or twice)
- 4K video
- I think the XT2 looks better. Yes... that IS an actual argument - with the choice of two great cameras, why not?
Øivind M I agree, looks is definitely an argument as good as any. These are expensive and one should get the one that feels right. Never mind the reason :)
Hi Mattias! I really love the Fuji line up, but I will had to sell my Canon gear to shift for Fuji. Really love the X-Pro2 but the XT2 bigger viewfinder and all in one capacity, make doubt a lot between X-Pro 2 and X-T2. Could be a solution start with a cheaper body (X-T20 / X-E3) and a better lens collection? A similar comparison between this two "cheaper variations" would be a great help...at the end, the glass you put in front the camera is the game changer. I follow you on Instagram now, great work!
Vielen Dank, Mattias. It's refreshing to read a hands-on critique that's focused on everyday usability and not "thoughts in my head" analysis. This was very useful for me, as I'm evaluating Fuji camera models.
i got the xt1 and xpro 2 . the xpro has much better ergonomic and more fun to use
I have big hopes for the X-Pro3
I would get an X-Pro3, but I can't bear the lack of a rear screen. It seems pointless just having a faux film box representation there. I understand why Fuji did it, but I reckon it is Marmite: you either love it or hate it.
X-Pro 2 has no negatives when taking photos, unless you are using it for fast action photography which you said you are not 🤔
There are always negatives. It all depends on personal needs.
_"Nooooo! Cranking the ISO will produce noise, it looks terrible!!"_
Fujufilm: _"haha ISO dial go click click"_
I honestly traded in my XT2 because it had an issue where with some shoots, the cards were not readable in a computer, but were in-camera (so I had to use a USB cable to retrieve the images, which was quite slow). I tried different cards and even the same cards over and over again. Sometimes the same cards would work fine for a few shoots (could read them) and then for one, not work and I had to copy the files via the camera. I tried all sorts of things to resolve the issue but never found out the reason so I just traded it in for another camera. But I did return to Fuji later and got an XT20 (used) as there's just something about shooting Fuji's that's enjoyable. Maybe it's the dials and film simulations, something that we miss from the modern era of cameras from Sony, CAnon and NIkon. I also considered an XPro body (and even the X100 line) but the hybrid OVF I couldn't quite get used to, and the X100 I felt was too limiting for my needs as it had a fixed lens). So I settled on an XT20. Smaller than an XT2, lighter, a few less features, but I can still change lenses and it's a Fuji. Great high ISO performance (in some respects, I'd say better than the XT3/XT30 due to higher-pixel density on those bodies, although in reality, the actual noise performance after NR in post might be about the same... a higher res image on the XT3/XT30 but slightly more blurred due to NR in post). I think Fuji is in a great position. They aren't playing the FF game, and if anything, are making waves in the MF game, the next sensor format, honestly, that I feel the industry will go to, as the FF market is too saturated right now, and people will likely want 100MP cameras later, and Fuji will already be there (with their GF100 and GF50 cameras).
For your issue try formating and naming your card before using in to your camera. Presume you use MacOS?
It would be fun to see a series of videos in which you try to get the best pictures possible from a bad, outdated or cheap camera, as you seem to have mastered the technique of getting great pictures with anything.
EpictheEpicest I've done a few videos like that with the Sigma, ep5, m etc.
And there are many more coming. Just bought a cool $10 camera that I will review later this summer.
I wish my dog would sit still so I could take photos like that. When he sees a camera pointed at him, he immediately looks the other way. :D
Scott R she does that sometimes. I just give her loads of praise and kind words until she looks back. But then you have to hurry before she comes running.
Two videos in a week, this is awesome!
I left everything for this x-pro2
Is the Fuji x-pro-2 watersealed?
Yes, that is the reason I switch from the X-E3 to the X-Pro2.
I love your dog. He's really handsome.
Your videos are so entertaining. You are very skilled and your banter is so witty and wry! The music selection is very relaxing even on 2X...
Aww maan, I just bought the X-T2
The XT2 is the best camera ever. I sold it and have big regrets.
LOL. So funny. Exactly what I did after using the X-Pro1 for a few days as a play around camera... ;)
love your dog! and the xpro as well :-)
Hi Matthias, thanks for your entertaining videos. I was wondering about your „look“. I m more on the subtle side when it it comes to colors but i like your quite punchy and a bit blurry look. How do you achieve that? Is there a reason to shoot higher iso at daytime (you mentioned 4000)?
Hi Mattias. Very interesting video! As a happy X-Pro 2 shooter, I am actually debating on whether I want the XT-2 as my "main" body and then use the X-Pro 2 with another lens. My reason for desiring the XT-2 is really twofold...One, the articulating LCD would be handy for my macro and product photography. Secondly, the booster grip would be good for the extra battery plus balancing better with a zoom such as the stellar XF16-55 or XF55-200, though both of these lenses are fine on the X-Pro 2 with the excellent metal handgrip MHG-X-PRO2 option. I agree with most of your points, although I find myself using the EVF about 99% of the time, so wouldn't really miss the Hybrid Viewfinder when shooting an XT-2. Also, the image quality and feature set I use are the same between these two bodies, despite the ergonomics being quite different. I just think that the XT-2 would suit my shooting style at least as well as the X-Pro 2. Of course, all this is subjective, and the bottom line is, one should enjoy the gear that they use! Thanks again!
Steve TQP I
I know this was from a long time ago, but I'm torn between getting a second X-T2 as a backup (and for when I need two lenses ready to shoot without swapping) or an X-Pro2. Did you end up getting the X-T2? If so, what's it like to go back and forth between the two? I had an original X100, but it was so slow/clunky compared to the new stuff that I'm not sure it was really representative of how using the X-Pro2 would be. I do some festival/live music photography and am thinking the X-T2 with longer lenses and grip and an X-Pro2 with my 16 or 23mm f/1.4 and OVF would be awesome in low light/fast action situations since I could see what's coming into the frame with the OVF.
If you didn't end up with the X-T2, do you think it's foolish to think I'll get any use out of the OVF? At this point X-T2/X-Pro2 bodies are about the same price used, and I just can't decide which way to go... Thanks if you take the time to respond to such an old comment!
My only gripe with the Xpro2 is the tiny EVF
Mattias, 06:12 is one of the most remarkable street photography shots I have seen in quite a while! … I'd go with a rangefinder-style camera as well because most mirrorless lookalike-SLRs are just too small for my hands. Not that rangefinder cameras would totally solve that problem, but due to the position of the finder I can at least avoid covering half of the buttons and controls if I look thru it with my right eye. Plus, I won't touch the display or directly breath onto it.
I got a kick out of it. The guy in the foreground looks like he dropped his camera or peed his pants... maybe both!
Yeah the wiggly shutter button is why I ended up taking the soft shutter release off my X100F.
i want u to show us more photos from vintage lens
I currently have my heart set on a Fuji X-T20 and I'm on a waitlist. I can't wait!
Alan Velez I always play with it when I stop at the local camera shop. Its nice for sure. Always tempting to bring one home with me :)
That just gets me even more excited! :D Thanks for replying, I really appreciate it.
Despite having and liking the X-T2, I still love my silver X-T10. I can only imagine how much better the X-T20 is.
Freddie Godfrey And don’t you think the x-t20’s viewfinder is too small to shoot with compared to his big brother ?
This was unintentionally, mind-readingly helpful. I just bought an old X-E2S because I'm used to EVF only.
I got the kippon adapter to put my M lenses on, since I need to save up some more throw away cash before I can get the 27mm f2.8 native lens.
Could I ask why you feel bumping up the iso to 4000 is better than lower iso numbers? Thank you.
Julian Green I don't think its "better". But I do like the look I get when I do more than when its absolute clean :)
Mattias Burling thanks Mattias. I'll definitely give that a try. I enjoyed your videos.
The new gfx has the ability to remap almost all the buttons and that just what I did when I got mine. I hope they add the same possibility to the x2 series.
Teemu Tuunanen Yes. Even the x100f can remap almost everything, much better.
Hey! Love your comparison! I want to know your thoughts on XE3 vs. Xpro2, I'm contemplating which one to get. I came from the X100T, and I'm worried I might miss the optical viewfinder (although I don't use it often, though it is nice to have). The price is almost the same, around the 100$-200$ difference used in the Philippines.
I mention it in my X-E3 video: th-cam.com/video/STQbhHQErZo/w-d-xo.html
adorable dog
Yeah, she seems bored and moody, like a Diva.
My project is to find out her name.
X Pro 2 wasn't intended for fast action shooting. The X-T2 camera is designed for fast action, and trumps the auto focus speed of the Nikon D500 🤔.
Maybe in bright light. In dim lighting it has no chance in AF speed against a D500.
If I was a fast action sports shooter I wouldn't buy a Fuji at all to be honest.
The X-Pro2 is good enough for both personal stuff and I use it at work all the time.
My iso dial is now stuck. Won't turn. Wonder if it was a secret defect..
You never say the name of your dog. He's your most often used model.
How 'bout a little credit for him?
He looks either very wise... or bored. Maybe both!
KutWrite He is a she. And I say it plenty of times. My site is even named after her :)
Awww... And you teased me again!
:P
just Christopher Walken reviewing a Fuji …. !
still relevant. thanks for the effort and the sharing. i am a very satisfied subscriber. thumbs up.
This video convince me to stay with x-t2
It's just Leica like a!
you must try the pana g9 its amazing
Thanks for the honest review! I'll still stick with Sony and Olympus for now :P
Hi Matthias-I’m trying to decide between the newer Fuji models, and I’m curious if these points translate to comparing the X Pro 3 to the X-T4-as they relate to making a great picture and the overall photography experience, not shooting video. I’d love your thoughts, if you have an opinion! Thanks for the great content!
Another great video and awesome pictures! Well done, Mattias!
they need to do the firmware up to get 4k on the xpro then I'd hop on it like a horny bull
Its being released in December. Its cool, but I would never use it anyway.
8:54 His pronunciation of his name Mat-TI-AS is so lovely Swedish.
Thanks for the review! Loved it. Great pictures!
I was in a camera shop yesterday and the XP2 was about the only Fuji camera that felt well built and very comfortable in my hands. Also they actually had one to sell - not just ‘For Display Purposes’ - and it wasn’t 2x or 3x what it cost when it 1st come out !! Your lovely and beautifully made film, with your customary stunning images, confirmed my thoughts, I’ll go back to the shop and buy that XP2 !! Thanks
6:15!
Hey Mattias. What ISO did you enjoy most in the Xt10? Love your channel.
Love these articles Mattias. Fascinating and useful.
It seems also to have some problem the X-PRO2 with the shutter button: you have your strap mount exactly in between, i tried and you have to fight to put finger ahead or behind, depending on your style :/
nerd Mike Guess it depends on the size of your hands. I have big hands and no such issue.
So, Matthias... How did the X Pro2 work out?
I'm wondering again due to your 2 M8 videos. Did you go Leica?
gunpowder at 4:16 :)
Hi, great video as always. What's that "thums up" you're using?? Thanks
From lensmate.
Hi Matias! i am planning to shoot fashion studio photography. do you think my x-pro1 is sufficient? or should i upgrade to the x-pro2? i am planning to use the images for my website/instagram mostly. ALso what lens do you recommend for fashion shoots
arrrrr I want your Dog :) Great review by the way :)
A dilemma ... i have a canon 5d3 with L lenses which is a keeper ... i also have an Xpro-1 and have now got an xt-2 which i have boughtg but have until tomorrow to send back if i dont like it.. really not sure what to do here keep or get rid ..
i wanted to ask you, if you have experienced any problems with X-Pro2?i mean on problems like blackouts,freezing screen etc. I heared a lot of youtubers complaining about this problems on X-T2(mainboard issue it seems),so i wondered is it the case with the X-Pro2.Btw,keep up the good work brother,your channel is rly helpful and informative :)
Nikola Lucic hey, no such issues.
Nice video. As always relaxing and informative. I read that the xpro2 is a little bit chunky. Is that correct?
I love your image processing style and you have a lovely voice!
What in the world? I was on a video on your old channel about the 2DS, and then you had an annotation directing to tis channel. I clicked it, and then I saw that my brother is subscribed to you! that's so weird....
Try using a thumbgrip on the xt2 and all your problems will be solved.
Having the ISO dial and the tilty screen sealed the deal for me on the xt2.
Russel Jao Not all of them.
I was talking about your grip problems. You praised the pro2 for the exceptional ergonomics when paired with a thumbgrip; the same could be said about the xt2 imo.
We all have different preferences. A thumb grip would save it imo.
I like your accent- skandinavian 100%!
Bought an xt2 last month with a great deal (free 35mm f1.4 + battery), but after watching this video I'm a little bit regretted. Wish I got the pro 😐
If you were me which one would you go, sell the xt2 and upgrade to the pro or just buy an x100f as second camera?
Buy an xpro 2 later . Got both one year with my Xt2 and a few months with the pro 2 ... large lenses are painfull to use on xpro2 and the EVF is better on xt2. Overall xt2 the best choice . Xpro 2 second best choice for small primes... 18f2 , 23f2 , 35f2mm and maybe the 50 f2 and that's all... otherwise go Xt2 for better evf.
That are 2 Cameras for 2 very different Situations ....Have both and love both ....If Ive to pick one of the two i would go with the X-T2 much more universal and u can use the Booster Grip which makes the camera to a real Beast ....if u shoot no sports and dont need the better video abilities, the 2 sd Uhs2 slots the much better evf and Booster Grip ... Then yes i would also recommend the pro 2 but only with the grip cause its also bad to hold without ...Best is..... get both =)
Greetings !
Geburah Silberwolf The xpro2 also has two sd slots.
Yes uve right, but only one Uhs2 .....
Geburah Silberwolf Only one needs to.
Lets end this, lol =) Its also not the point of my comment =)
Geburah Silberwolf I think you misunderstood my comments. I wasn't in any way, shape or form trying to argue with you :)
love your voice
I'm thinking of buying the X Pro 1. Can't afford the 2 yet. Your thoughts? I already own an original Sony A7.
1Atomtan Im sure its a nice camera. Comparable to the x100t which was sweet.
Thank you.
For photoagrapy, nikon d7500 or fuji xt30?
I’m unsure what he means by the camera is true magic at iso 4000 ?????
Lovely photos :)
if you don't need the camera for video production the XPro is nicer, xt2 is more series
Probably important, yet these are superfialities.
good job it seems that the af in low light IS better on xpro2 also, just a question : you dont use sony Line anymore ?
I jump back and forth a lot.
Just bought a X-Pro 2. Love it .... With the exemption of a couple of niggles like the deport adjust-men getting knitted and exposure compensation dial moving likewise. Very helpful video Maths. Informative and clear. One question please .... Where do you get the thumb rest accessory?
Gwynne Harries its from a company called Lensmate.