Selling Babies - Law & Order
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From Season 4, Episode 13 "Breeder" - Briscoe and Logan help a young mother who claims her newborn baby was stolen from her after she gave birth in a taxi on the way to the hospital.
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"I make babies, I'm good at it. So what if there are people willing to pay me for it?"
Then become a surrogate, not a criminal.
Nah, I will terrorize perspective parents for money😂😠😒😭
Seriously. For real. Surrogacy is beautiful. Just like adoption. The punishment for scams in this area should not be as light as they are. The money is huge, but the emotional damage and harm is so extraordinary and profound that it should matter. Esp in making perpetrators thinking of scams like this to think twice.
Right?? Surrogates make good money. Just make sure you have a legal contract with one before going through with it.
Look I’m sorry she was being used but that doesn’t give her the right to hurt these people, she’s not some poor innocent little girl she’s a woman who’s as willing to put a baby’s life at risk to make money and she didn’t care how many hearts she broke to do it.
It gives a whole new meaning to "They hurt me, so I hurt everyone else"
It's just a stinking tv program. Holy fuck, do you have shrapnel fragments inoperably embedded in your brain?
Carl Bailey damn so people are just supposed to watch tv with zero emotions? It’s not that deep calm down
@@thehellyousay People know it's a tv show calm down. People are allowed to emotions & thoughts regarding the characters they see on tv. For instance i think her character is a piece of garbage.
@@elisonholace4033 Thank you for being a voice of reason... and no it's not sarcasm.
I have a close friend who was scammed with an adoption scheme. The baby's biological mother was a young girl in a tough situation that just wanted a good home for her child. She visited them a couple times and their other children got so excited when she let them touch her belly because they wanted to meet their little sister. This family paid all her medical expenses as well as living costs during the pregnancy. When the baby tragically died the week it was born, they covered the funeral costs. They mourned for their lost child and had a picture of her framed as a keepsake. One of their friends was a photographer, and noticed that the color in the picture was off. A dead baby should look gray or blue, and the one in the picture looked rosy. They started investigating, and it turns out the baby in the picture was ALIVE. However, it was not their baby, it was a random baby picture this woman routinely used in her scam. She was never even pregnant to begin with. The baby bump was fake, the pictures were fake, and she turned out to be much older than she claimed. They started doing background research on her and found 2 other families she had done this to. They were looking for more, and last I heard were trying to pursue legal action.
The thing about the situation that makes me feel sick is that this woman has hurt not only them, but also another real child and mother in need of help.
That’s sickening
Yo...that just cold.
The things people do for money.
Jesus... I'm so sorry that's just pure evil.
Oh my gosh… I’m so sorry to hear your close friend had to go through such a horrible, sickening event like that.
I can’t even imagine dealing with it, along with the financial and emotional loss…
I just went through something similar while trying to adopt a baby boy, I was scammed for 7 months, she had done this with all 6 of her other children had hopeful adoptive parents paying her bills and buying groceries throughout the pregnancy then 15 minutes before the hospital releases them she changes her mind 7 times ! All7 of those kids lived in a two bedroom apartment in the worst part of Albuquerque NM that u could smell before u ever entered the house it was the saddest hardest part of my life and it happened March 2020 so it was already a super scary unknown time
Man I use to love svu more than the original but as I started watching the original from the beginning, I have love for both shows.
JP Prophete omg same!!!!!
Where are you watching the original? Because I can’t find it anywhere.
Sarah ABC they usually show episodes on bounce tv, ion television, and the streaming service peacock.
@@sarahabc4557 first two seasons on Prime, Peacock only 15 and up. Unfortunately no Brisco and Logan years
I have not seen any episodes on BOunceTV. I watch it all the time.
How the boyfriend openly says he wanted nothing to do with kids yet sounds so outraged at what this woman did with her baby, really drives home how callous and cruel the whole scam was... even the involved partner thought so.
He was facing jail time. I would've acted disgusted and forced into it too
"Objection."
"Sustained."
Witness: _continues talking even though he doesn't need to_
Some people don't know when to stop talking
In law? Sometimes literally
@@eatingmage603 Yep. I've had friends who saw folks dig their own grave in court. It's somewhat humorous but usually it's much more strict and usually ends up being inadmissable irl. But it differs from court to court.
He was being blackmailed. He oversold on purpose .
I hate the 'they used me first so that means I'm the victim no matter what I do' argument. You stopped being a victim when you made the choice to make that your profession. You have something you sell/bid, and they buy it from you. You don't emotionally torture and extort people on some bullshit like that
Exactly! Not-so-innocent little Debby is a huge victimiser.
I call bullshit on that also, she cared about no one but herself. She loved every second of torturing these people.
Not your call.
@@lizziebkennedy7505not your call to tell me what opinions I can and can't voice, take a seat
@@lizziebkennedy7505you got ownd son
"you're entitled to a lawyer sir". I love how Stone threw that one in there in the middle of arguing lol
This woman was in 9 different episodes of the law and order franchise! Amazing!!! She managed to act 9 different people in the same series 👏👏👏
@@Art_thecl0wn Law & Order
"Sonata for Solo Organ" (1991) as Teresa Franz
"Breeder" (1994) as Dorothy Baxter
"Pro Se" (1996) as Patricia Smith
"Compassion" (2003) as Dr. Beth Allison
Law & Order: SVU
"Victims" (2001) as Louise Durning
"Soulless" (2003) as Sally Wilkens
"Lead" (2009) as Lillian Siefeld
Law & Order: CI
"Inert Dwarf" (2004) as Laurie Menotti
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"Truth or Consequences" (2005) as Karen Ames
Actors act. Why are you surprised?
@@RonJohn63 Who said anyone was surprised?
@@rsybing OP did. (Amazed, surprised... close enough.)
She’s an incredible actress. Her role as Aunt Lydia on Handmaids Tale is amazing. She’s great.
Lawyers are always so cocky with STone until he flips the cards and they are all begging for a deal. Priceless
Layers being jackasses to the max
@@adrianthehandsome286 Brick or bed?
L&O is always made out to be this idealistic take on the justice system but man I love it when the DA’s office catches their person.
Nobody and I mean nobody delivers a sarcastic "Sir" like Ben Stone.
i always liked him better than Mcoy who was to over the top imo.
@@Kruppt808 eh it's ok, this isn't masterpiece theater. It's law and order and I like it.
Holy moly! I feel sorry for the families that went through this! I feel worse for that poor child! I know it’s fictional, but it shook me!
THIS might be fictional, but there are people out there that do similar and worse.
Squeaky McBeal ...because the child is USED as a pawn in a very sick game...
It shook anyone who has a heart, including myself.
Based on truth
Black market babies.
Look it up, it's a real thing. Babies snatched from their hospital beds and sold to couples without the parents knowing what happened to the child.
10,000 to adopt a kid??? That's super cheap. Heck a single round of IVF is usually 12,000 and up and most adoptions in the US are upwards of 43,000.
thats how they hook you until the child is born, then its twice to three times us adoption rates and/or IVF treatments
Well, it's 1990 so it would be a lot more in today's money
That’s almost $20,000 today.
Jesus
Listen again, it's 10,000 up front and then 75,000 when the baby is born too.
Aunt Lydia 😯
She's been baby snatching from the beginning!
Now when you say snatching...
Lol 😂
Omg didn't realise this - was wondering why she looked familiar
Yesss I knew it was her😱😱😱😱
Omg, that IS the same actress, Ann Dowd, that plays Aunt Lydia 😮! I wouldn't have recognized her.
That's one sick greedy piece of work
no doubt she'd vote for Trump if she were real.
@@paulwettstein7071 what a loser, putting trump hating into everything.
Paul Wettstein yay a moron who has to make everything political
Paul Wettstein just if you would vote for trump or not doesn’t make you a bad person. Trump won the election so are you calling all the people who voted for him bad people too? This girl extorted her baby and you are comparing her character on the same level to someone who voted for trump.
@@paulwettstein7071 hi you do know that President Trump was a Democrat before 2016 election right. So technically speaking I would say this is the way that Democrats normally think.
Lmao the lawyer's expression after she's done her rant
Can we just take a sec to appreciate the defence? One moment she was saying not to believe his testimony over the client, next breeder lady runs her mouth, and the defence was so disturbed she straight up asked for plea bargain
Always LOVED the actress playing Debbie in this. So cold and calculating. i was surprised to see she acted very little. I bet she nailed her screen test. If indeed she took one.
The baby daddy became a Texas Ranger
🙂👈🏾
Not so stupid after all
I used to watch that show 😁
I really liked Steven’s actor here. He nails the character perfectly.
I like their exchange... "They think we're just poor white trash." "Maybe they're right."
Seems he at least has a bit of a conscience.
I feel sorry for the families who go through this, and I feel no sympathy for Debby.
I totally loved it when he looked at her and said you are such a bitc.! Awesome!
Law & Order sure knew what they were doing when they wrote these masterclass episodes.
I’m not 100% sure but I’m pretty confident the woman on that witness stand is Ann Dowd A.k.a. aunt Lydia from the handmaid‘s tale, and Patty from the leftovers.
Thank you for the episode name, number and season in the description. The Law & Order : SVU is notoriously bad for not doing that. It's like shooting fish in a barrel trying to figure out which episode it is when you want to watch it.
I love this show, but how are so many lawyers walking through the well without getting tackled by a bailiff? 😂
Leaning on the jury box railing (BIG no-no), leaning into the witness, yelling in the courtroom...
Writers who care more about drama than actual courtroom procedure.
In the very first episode he asks permission at least
@@imbuffysummers now I need to find this scene. LOL
I hope L&O is on Netflix or Prime...
@@MMuraseofSandvich You make things too real it gets boring. I've watched actual court room recordings of cases and they don't get nearly as fun to watch as this. That being said at least this is better than in SVU where someone finds new ways to smuggle a fucking weapon into the courtroom.
Legal Eagle: "The bailiff *will* tackle you!"
OH MY GOD! Its Aunt Lydia from The Handmaid's Tale
OMG it is!!!
Ann Dowd basically auditioning for Aunt Lydia so many years ago.
I love the handmaid's tale. I thought that was her. Lol
Wow didn’t recognize her until i read your comment!
Kristopher Gracia which one is Ann Dowd? The first woman witness?
@@civillady13 Mrs. Baxter. The woman they took the baby from and then arrested her.
And eerily, in this, she has the blonde Serena Joy look.
That man broke so easy 😭
I can’t blame him, there was no limit to there creed even when they got what they wanted
Being used? Fuck if I was being paid for a baby I didn’t want I’d go for the best home possible, I’d tell them to love him or her as if it came from their own loins. A baby deserves love not a price tag.
You little sugar honey ice tea there are people in this world who want to have children
Ashleigh Gray you’re cringe af next time please just say shit
One of my favorite L&O moments is from this episode, I hope it gets posted.
I still have a low key crush on the baby daddy...
you know that this episode is 26 years old
@@LeighMet yeah... I was of age then and I'm of age now.
He also played Gage in Walker Texas Ranger in like the last 2 seasons. He's even hotter there than he is here.
Oh yes I do recognize him
Judson Mills. He's 50 now, and look good 😛 maybe even better
$10,000 is nothing. The average payment is between $65,000-$100,00 plus medical bills and any necessities that the mother needs.
OMG! I just realized that is Ann Dowd! WOW!
Aunt Lydia has always been after those babies 😂
Ann Dowd and Michael Moriarty were the parents in Shiloh!!!
I keep getting a ton of law and order recs lol
Ann Dodd is an amazing actress!
The lady low key sounds like siri😂😂
She should have just gotten into surrogacy.
Halibugz they don’t get as much ch money doing that as they do going to more than one family for money through extortion and lies
Connie Kreese yeah but then you don’t risk going to prison for 14+ years
Aunt lydia? Is that you????
IT IS!! I WAS ABOUT TO COMMENT THAT!
A young Aunt Lydia.
Stealing a baby😂😂
Wait, which one is she??
@@crimps321 the first part of the video. The last being questioned on the stand. With the blond hair.
Take a long hard look, thats Aunt Lydia.
@@crimps321 young aunt lydia testified for the prosecution
Someone holding a human hostage and terrorizing the buyers......
I can only watch show clips. If this case was real-life entirely, which couple/person would be more likely to have custody, or care for, the baby? How would any applicable 1994 NY law factor in to this case? What about now? Who do you think should have gotten the baby? Where did the baby end up going - to the Savitt's?
It was a real case. The person it's based off of married my uncle.
@@babysheep232 which one married your uncle? The birth mom.
@@toriagiro9519 Angela Pounds. That's not her last name anymore, but that was her name during the trials and sentencing.
In real life no one would raise the child. Baby would've probably ended up in the system due to legal reasons.
@@babysheep232 where can I read about this real case? Searching her name didnt pull up anything for me
.... Whert!? She's cowlin' him Stoopid! 🤷♂️
For everyone here who is interested in child welfare, please consider adopting older children too.
Aunt lydia is always there when it concerned a baby.
BAHAHAHA!!! I said the title and the theme into thing went off 😂😂 TIMINGG!!!
It's weird seeing Judson Mills with long hair. He probably grew it out for the episode.
Oh wow! It is a very young Aunt Lydia from Handmaids as one of the prospective adoptive moms!
!
sadly, there are women like her in the world who would do this kind of garbage. that mother might have had a bad experience, but what she did was evil. selling babies like slavery, torturing and forcing parents like their indentured servants, and manipulating the police like they are her little employees. that is messed up.
Heyyyy! It’s Ranger Gage from Walker Texas Ranger!!! 😃
Yes it is 😁
Debby makes me fucking sick. from one small stand point I've thought of being a surrogate myself a couple years ago but, what she did was beyond sick--that is an innocent child's life she's been playing with and dangling around as bait to bleed and torture those people sifting for the highest bidder!!
part of me is sorry for her previous experience and yes the way the system works is deplorable and unjust at times but, that still doesn't grant her any rights to commit numerous extortions between the three families or absolve her of deliberate child endangerment and body trafficing of an infant.
4:04 - I'm so annoyed with the messy books and the scotch IN THE BOOKCASE. No respectable lawyer would have an office like that. SMH
Oh my god, the first defendant/witness is Ann Dowd! I didn’t know she was in older episodes too!
Her name is Debbie. No longer shocked lol
This was a great episode.
Fun note the acter that plays Mr Ben stone and the actress that plays Dorothy would go on to be in a movie called Shiloh years later they play husband and wife
Some of my grade 4 classmates were extras in that movie. I believe the one kid had an agent or whatever, like he did acting gigs here and there for a number of years. But for this movie, his friends got to join him.
Aunt Lydia on the stand finally lol.
Whose to say that the woman who paid the money is a fit mother ? Just because someone has money does not make them moral or sane ! Trust me !
They have to go through years and years of evaluation just to be eligible for adoption. That includes, professional background, economic background and psychological evaluation and medical evaluation. You think it's like buying a pair of shoes because you have money? ??? Use your brain once in a while, or read about the subject before ranting nonsense
@@dryb3301
That doesn't mean a thing. There are adoptive and foster parents who have abused, raped, molested, and murdered their children just as there have been birth parents and relatives who have done the same. There are good, average, and evil people in all facets of life.
I have decided to study and become a lawyer like my grandfather.
That's why you write up a contrat
“We were struggling as it was”….so you decided to adopt a child ? With no money? 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Uncle Juniors doctor Furio slap was buying babies back in the day
"What are we talking about?"
I remember this episode. This does actually happen. Sadly, greed brings out the worst in many.
The Acting in SVU Is top-tier
The epilogue of this episode is good
Why does Debbie sound like Debbie out of the Adams family festers wife 😂
Who is the actor who plays the guy at 6:27
I’ve seen him before but I can’t remember where and from what
I wonder when she got out of prison did she go right back to brokering babies. She was still young. 4 years was her minimum sentence. Seems possible.
I hear she got a great position brokering babies in Gilead.
She was out to make the people pay and she wasn't the only one she was having over
In high school my law teacher would play an episode of this Law and Order every Friday but I could sleep cause I already watched them ALL of them 🤣🤣🤣😴these older seasons before SVU were great
Sooo... I'm never going to Poughkeepsie.
Who acted as Debbie Alkins (or Alkons, I don’t know) in this episode?
Classics......
No self pity on with someone that have no remorse
BF looks like he'd be good with the impregnating.
This same actress appeared in Law and Order and Law and Order SVU at least 3 times. As baby kidnapper, a pediatrician oncologist and a nice lady in child's clinic
Does anyone know where full episodes of Law and Order stream? I can only find SVU
your problem is even tho SVU is a good show they promoted it to much, so it make it harder to get other Law and order show
It's not streaming. The price is too high because of the length of the show. The more seasons & hours of shows there are are; the higher the rate.
Hulu.
I use the site justwatch.com to find where stuff like this is available.
@@KazumiKuwabara Hulu has it behind a subscription paywall.
So much BPD!
Can someone tell me how this episode ended? I tried looking for a summary.
Andy Alvarez the episode is on dailymotion if anything
The defendant ends up in prison.
They would have to check there DNA
What she did was absolutely wrong, but I still feel for her. I mean she was also right in that those people were only nice bc they were using her.
True. A woman once approached me because she thought I had a baby with me. All smiles, super-friendly. The instant she found out I didn't have a kid, she ran off like I had bubonic plague. Really weird. I suspect she was like the characters portrayed here.
tf is wrong with you, so sexist bc if that were a man selling babies, ppl would brutalise him. she’s disgusting.
marla oldfield exactly. It’s not items or things she’s selling, it’s people (babies) who are completely innocence. She even admitted she was doing this for her and her alone
And she was using them.
No, she was using nice people to make money by making babies and selling them .
This highlights strongly that poverty make savages of men. Debbie is a product of her environment. Were she born to a better family it could have played out so different. Parents need to do better for their children and more needs to be done to educate and uplift youth.
No, bad people existence regardless of the circumstances which can be shown throughout this show regardless of the wealth gap. She used babies like she was selling a car and it was more out of revenge and taking as much money as possible rather than anything else
I’ve known plenty of people in “poverty” who are/were good people, and I’ve come across plenty or terrible people across the entire wealth spectrum. The idea that poverty makes savages of “men” is flawed. However being born in a good family on the other hand certainly can help a lot.
Don't insult poor people, some humans are garbage no matter the wealth or education or good family background
She'd still be a conniving greedy b***h! Poverty is not to blame here.😒
is this from a movie? if yes, please say the name of the movie
HOLY SMOKES!! 😨😨😨😨
If puppy mills are wrong, what about human mills?
That guy with the long hair played gage on Walker Texas Ranger
Disgusting people harm children
Mrs Baxter is that actress from Handmaiden & other movies
Debbie Elkins shouldn't have pissed off Aunt Lydia...
This show is based on real life.
CSI with the FBI are also based on real happenings, which were in the news papers.
people like that who sells their babies for their selfish reasons should be in jail long enough so she cannot bear any more children when she goes out. otherwise, she will repeat the process.
How is she any worse than people who would buy a baby?
Anne Dowd!!!
5:58 A blood test. How quaint.
She’s wrong to auction her child but she’s right by saying that no cares about poor people. They cared about her only to take her child away, plain and simple.
She *could* have kept on having children for $10K a pop, but she had to get greedy.
She was basically a breeder to quench her thirst for money. She didn't have anything of value because she's a piece of sht, so she made babies to sell.
In the early 1980s, one of my housemates, who was 18 years old, sold her 6-month-old baby to a young Christian couple for $10,000, then left town with her 30-something biker boyfriend, who was not the baby’s father.
Let the truth be revealed...
The trouble here is that any kid those two produce will be a Forrest Gump. Not what the rich people expected.
Quite an insult to old Forrest there he by sheer dumb luck accomplished more than that baby would likely be capable of even imagining
@@imbuffysummers , now that I think about it, I take it back. Forrest you could like. I liked him. But these two are pure psychopaths. And that runs in bloodlines.