Got my new 2025 Trailsport last week after watching this and previous Pilot videos on your channel- You're an auto journalist of the absolute highest caliber. Never ever change what you're doing.
@abrahamk9 Agree 💯. Size is definitely not all important. Usability is. I happen to own a Mercedes EQS with a hyperscreen, the largest, brightest, highest definition screen in any car. The 9 in screen on the Honda is much less visually impressive yet just as useful and much easier to use. Furthermore, when using the 360 camera system, the size of the camera display is exactly the same size as the Hondas! So, no one should need to feel screen size envy🤣
Good review. We've got 30K miles on the '23 EX-L trim version (nice balance of price and features with 18" wheels better suited for snow/off-road use). We use it a s a daily hauler and road-trip/ski-access car. It' feels pretty wide for a mid-sized SUV. Acoustic glass makes a noticeable difference (we compared against the base model). Small'ish screen was a *plus* for us and infotainment works well. Two annoyances on the non trail-sport versions: you can't easily retrofit the Trail Sport skid plate/recovery point to the other trim levels since the frame doesn't have the threaded inserts to hold it in place. Also, a full-size tire will not fit under-deck with enough ground clearance in case you were thinking of using a full-sized spare -- on the Trail Sport version, the rear storage compartment is more shallow to accommodate a full-sized spare. It's a fantastic AWD car that drives well. A worthy land yacht.
I love my 2024 Honda Pilot Touring. Love it. Great for the family. Also, you have the option for captains chairs because the middle bench seat has the option to go in the truck.
At this point I'm sort of giving up on Honda ever doing this but it sure would be nice if they could make an Odyssey with AWD. It would literally be the perfect vehicle for me.
Great review, it's hard to test the off-road capabilities on a test drive, so I really appreciate your videos. We're going with the Elite trim (level just below Black Edition) and yeah, Honda really nailed it with the seats. We tested every other 3 row SUV out there, Honda's are the most comfortable for 2024/2025 models.
This is the best non German SUV for daily driving. Drives smaller than what it is and has tons of room. I drove my friends and I was shocked at how good it was, especially being a basic Honda. Honda did a great job. It’s also amazing in the snow and ice. Steering is great.
In regards to your captains chairs comment, the Touring/Elite/Black trims (and all trims of the MDX) have a completely removable middle seat in the second row that can actually be stowed in the underfloor compartment in the trunk. This effectively creates captains chairs if you want them. I prefer a bench though and am happy Honda did this.
iVTM-4 is, IMO one of if not the best AWD systems. Years ago I had a 2009 Touring and I was always impressed with its performance. We did some light off-road and some really heavy snow, which always did great. I will remind people that Honda suggests a 24,000 fluid change in the iVTM-4 differential. I did it myself a couple of times, and back then it was
hello! I live in Russia and bought a Honda pilot 2020. honda left Russia and for sanctions , I am writing to you about replacing consumables of oils and liquids , I change the oil in the rear differential every 10 thousand km , in the engine as well , and how many minutes do you lose ? Thank you in advance
Hello! You are my main tester who will decide me to buy the new 2026 passport! I hope you will test it in the same places where it failed. Either in the woods in the small tight curve where it remained on the spot because the all-wheel drive system was not efficient enough. And in the mountain with the snow when it needed power to continue its momentum but it cut the power and you remained stopped.
Really tempting to go back to Honda with their 2025 line up. I wonder if they have a hybrid plan coming up soon. 4:05 My family do prefer the bench seats over captain seats. Center armrest and cup holders are more convenient for them.
@@diego2817 Look at Ford, Chevy, and Toyota. All plastic. If you want quality, buy BMW, Audi , or best there is Porsche. Honda gives a great vehicle for 50k. Atleast it still comes with NA V6. Suspension and AWD is great. Drives smaller than what it is.
I had been doing a lot of research on Elite and Black edition and found out that except some exterior framing , there is no real difference between them. Price wise, Elite is a bit better than the Black edition. Therefore, I ended up buying the Elite. I really recommend Elite to anyone.
@adigamo You are correct, the Elite and the Black are in every measure the exact same car. However, if you like the blacked out look and exclusive black with red trim interior, the price differential is small. The Elite's price is still high. If you are spending that amount, the price between them is no big deal. If you want to save some bucks and still get an amply equipped one, and can stomach an iffy stereo, the Touring is the best deal. For me, the non Bose stereo is a deal breaker, given that the Bose is a LOT better. That said, if you are an "audiophile" even the Bose system is meh. The non branded stereo is simply bad, not utter trash, but still definitely Walmart level🤣
The screen is great! Simmer down with wanting a TV on your dash. 9" is plenty big enough. Honda why would you put buttons, taking up the same space of a shifter, in place of a shifter? A shifter is safer and more predictable. In that you don't have to look when shifting. Honda is not the only manufacturer guilty of this notion. Innovation in place of safety is going backwards.
The height of this screen is actually taller than a lot of the 12” screens in competitors, which I find to be more usable. Having a super wide screen doesn’t really translate to ease of use.
As a f150 owner interested in the ridgeline(yes I know this is a pilot review) the things that would put the next gen ridgeline over the top for me would be basically this pilot but with just north of 300hp and 285ftlb tq, a little more back seat space, mpg improvement. And maybe be capable of 1500w power supply. Just a wish list though for what I need for my family.
It’s sad they got rid of Vtec as it sounded nice on these at higher RPM but the iVTM-4 AWD has always been very respectable since the 2016+ years and Acura’s SH-AWD
The 2025 Honda Pilot Black Edition is a game-changer! Its aggressive look with those Gloss Black 20-inch alloy wheels and blackout treatments really make it stand out. Plus, the spacious interior with red stitching and advanced features like the 10.2-inch digital instrument cluster make it perfect for families and adventurers alike. Can’t wait to see it on the road!
Presently looking at The Pilot Touring, Elite and Black Edition..will buy one..but I am so annoyed with Honda for failing at the display game.. I just know when I buy my 2025 the 2026 models will upgrade the screen.. Thank you for the great video.
If Honda continued to offer an NA V6 with increased efficiency and reduced emissions in perpetuity it'll make for a nice calling card for them. It'll probably have to be hybridized, but it'll be a draw
Ryan, as mentioned in your video of the Trail Sport, Honda's brake vectoring algorithm is quite impressive in Trail mode (compared to other crossovers). Honda should seriously consider adding a trim above the Trail Sport (like a Trail Sport X) with even more ground clearance, especially for the next Passport, if Honda wants to steal some customers from the Subaru crowd.
When you spoke of the minivan, i just wish it comes AWD. An Honda Odyssey was on my radar but after checking the specs, its only comes with a FR drive train.
Y'all can't just say that this chunk compares favorably to Subaru Ascent without data and without mentioning that top Fat Mama trim (Special 7 Touring) is still 10K cheaper than this red Black Edition. But the main points of the video are there - climbing in the back and stating that y'all are legs-torso proportionate. 😂 So you get your like.
The old drivetrain in the Pilot was better when they switched to the more reliable 9 speed transmission made by ZF. Their previous engine was also better with Vtec!
The question we are all asking. Especially when it is clear the dash is designed to hold the larger screen from the Accord. It is really the biggest gripe I have with my 24 elite.
Personally have no problem with a 9” inch screen. My current screen is 8” and I very rarely look at it anyways. No sure what the fascination is with the massive screens. Eyes should be on the road.
Ryan you're great at what you do however this new course isn't doing you justice. It's flat and boring to watch. The other courses had an incline which made it look more challenging and exciting while you climbed. The new course literally looks like a walk in the park.
this one should have the captain chairs in 2nd row. they should be optional in the trailsport along with the sunroof. give us a roof rack instead. not digging the all black interiors in either. i dont care about screen size but wish it were more integrated. really looking forward to the next passport trailsport as it should be the one to rule them all, hopefully. maybe a grand c killer as well, but it still wont have a low range like the new 4runner which i think will do well in term of sales in 2025 also, better than the wrangler and bronco anyway. 4r will be more affordable but not quite grand c sales numbers bc its still a truck and the grand c prob sells more as a 2wd crossover than other trims. the grand c and wrangler needs a new engine like the sst and interior refresh to keep up.
Agree on tired of all black interiors!! Get creative, a little contrast won’t kill anyone. As for the trail sport captains chairs, they force that option because the rear underfloor storage is different from the other trims so that they could fit a full size spare underneath, and thus there would be no storage space for the removable center seat as in the other trims. I presume they went with captains chairs because a) they’re trendy and b) it was cheaper than fabricating a one off bench seat.
Just bought one! If you think of it as a more utilitarian, less flashy and less expensive version of the base MDX, you are absolutely correct. in fact, it ups the MDX mechanically in one category, Honda's in-house 10 speed transmission is better than the outsourced 9 speed in the MDX ( till Acura transitions to the 10 speed) 😉 BTW great review! Good job!
@fredmoss4540 The engine of the Pilot and the regular MDX are exactly the same engine with slightly different tuning (J35y8). The MDX type S uses the old 3.0 with a turbo.
Notice the Ford Explorer doesnt come up when you talk about cross shopping. Is it just that bad / poor value or just not enough hands on time with it compare it fairly?
I think it would be much better to test drive base model if it is available to you, because majority of buyrs could not afford the top end model. I am not sure it the base model is as capable.
Pilot. Just really worried about the tow capacity. My VW Toureg tows our camper and it’s like 4500 loaded so very close to the capacity of the ‘25 pilot.
I disagree on the screen! We look at enough screens every day, and most of us don't want another huge, distracting, ugly tablet sitting in the middle of the dash. Most of us probably would prefer traditional gauges as well, with an info screen in the center. Doesn't the Trailsport trim have 9.2 inches of clearance? That's a full 2.5 lift kit (suspension settles to around 1.9 inch lift). But I think it's authentic and not just some cheapo hockey pucks, because the ride quality is still great for such a big lift.
Thanks for the video. Do you know if the 2026 passport transmission is going to be updated?.... I know it doesn't pertain to this video. I'm in between another used RX or that believe it or not... Also to keep the algorithm going and stir the pot a little bit.... Why the heck are wranglers so expensive? It's just ridiculous.
I couldn’t care less about the giant screens. My F150 has a 12 inch screen and I don’t think I use it for anything other than google map projection. What bothers me here is the placement of the screen. It looks like some cheap after market addition especially with the volume knob and a couple of tacky looking buttons directly on it.
Ryan, have you heard anything about the problems with the transmission on the newer pilots? I currently own a 21 CROSSTREK and feel like I would choose the Trailsport over an Ascent, but I’ve heard bad things about the trans.
The Info screen reminds you that you bought an outdated car. You will have to explain to everyone that you actually own The Black Edition, which cost a " little bit more"-like 10K
It’s not “extra torque”. It’s a portion of the available torque. In terms of performance it’s not really different from the brake-based systems in terms of steering and cornering. Just a different way of achieving it
@TK0O0O0O0 Not quite right. Braking to proportion torque is not the same as speeding up the opposite tire. both proportion torque but SHAWD also induces yaw, which in turn helps in handling. BTW, the magic sauce of the trail sport is that it has SHAWD (for the rear), plus it uses brake proportioning in the front, thus adding an additional layer of traction to the offroading chops. The trailsport can efficiently transfer up to 70% of torque to any wheel! The only thing with more traction than that would be fully locking differentials on both front, back and center (like the Mercedes G class).
56 grand for that interior is LOLLLL I’m sure it’s a super reliable vehicle but that digital gauge cluster is pathetic looking, the 9 inch screen is fine but the location of the screen looks like an afterthought. This trim should not cost more than 50 grand. 47-48 would be most reasonable.
Got my new 2025 Trailsport last week after watching this and previous Pilot videos on your channel-
You're an auto journalist of the absolute highest caliber. Never ever change what you're doing.
Thank you Honda for still preserving NA reliable 3.5 liter engine❤
True but not completely. Has start stop and cylinder deactivation (if one is okay with that)
@@chibbyylol And a timing belt that needs to be changed.
@@rightlanehog3151yeah but reliable
@@chibbyylolit can be deactivated
@@margar1983is there enough data yet on the new DOHC variant? It’s only been out a couple of years and only in the Pilot.
I'm over the honeymoon phase with my Trailsport and I'm still real happy with my purchase.
thats cool
Cool
Hey what ya think about the 2026 passport trailsport
The 9" screen is just fine for me. Especially since the Pilot still has lots of buttons and knobs.
Tbh I'm so over this trend of giant screens across the whole dash. A fat 9 is fine.
@abrahamk9 Agree 💯. Size is definitely not all important. Usability is. I happen to own a Mercedes EQS with a hyperscreen, the largest, brightest, highest definition screen in any car. The 9 in screen on the Honda is much less visually impressive yet just as useful and much easier to use. Furthermore, when using the 360 camera system, the size of the camera display is exactly the same size as the Hondas! So, no one should need to feel screen size envy🤣
Good review. We've got 30K miles on the '23 EX-L trim version (nice balance of price and features with 18" wheels better suited for snow/off-road use). We use it a s a daily hauler and road-trip/ski-access car. It' feels pretty wide for a mid-sized SUV. Acoustic glass makes a noticeable difference (we compared against the base model). Small'ish screen was a *plus* for us and infotainment works well. Two annoyances on the non trail-sport versions: you can't easily retrofit the Trail Sport skid plate/recovery point to the other trim levels since the frame doesn't have the threaded inserts to hold it in place. Also, a full-size tire will not fit under-deck with enough ground clearance in case you were thinking of using a full-sized spare -- on the Trail Sport version, the rear storage compartment is more shallow to accommodate a full-sized spare. It's a fantastic AWD car that drives well. A worthy land yacht.
I traded my 22 OB Wilderness on a '25 Trailsport and I love it. It's a comfortable car and super capable
Best vehicle reviewer on TH-cam hands down. If Honda added 2" of ride height I believe it could give the Subarus quite a run for their money.
Love the practical aspects of this Honda... Not everyone is enamored of technology (big screens, etc.) I would probably get the Trailsport, though!
I just got my TrailSport 2025 and love that beauty 😍😍 love the 360 camera every time the sensors detect something the 360 camera comes on 😍 love it
I love my 2024 Honda Pilot Touring. Love it. Great for the family. Also, you have the option for captains chairs because the middle bench seat has the option to go in the truck.
I like how You switch drive modes and showing us how vehicle behave. Great review. Greetings
Honda has always done such a stand up job with the Pilot! It’s in its own lane within the class making it so unique and in my opinion, perfect!
it’s worst in class
One of the best SUV’s for daily driving with lots of room. Drives smaller than what it is. AWD is amazing.
Then why is it so lonely rated across most reviewers?
At this point I'm sort of giving up on Honda ever doing this but it sure would be nice if they could make an Odyssey with AWD. It would literally be the perfect vehicle for me.
Great review, it's hard to test the off-road capabilities on a test drive, so I really appreciate your videos. We're going with the Elite trim (level just below Black Edition) and yeah, Honda really nailed it with the seats. We tested every other 3 row SUV out there, Honda's are the most comfortable for 2024/2025 models.
Really best in class. Nothing else matches all the attributes. Honda Perfection and Functionality and now Refinement. Best trim is Touring.
I agree except for the trim Elite is the best. For not much more $ you get all the features. I love the full surround camera especially.
I’ve driven a lot of SUV’s and these are amazing. They drive a lot smaller than what they are. Lots of room.
This is the best non German SUV for daily driving. Drives smaller than what it is and has tons of room. I drove my friends and I was shocked at how good it was, especially being a basic Honda.
Honda did a great job. It’s also amazing in the snow and ice. Steering is great.
In regards to your captains chairs comment, the Touring/Elite/Black trims (and all trims of the MDX) have a completely removable middle seat in the second row that can actually be stowed in the underfloor compartment in the trunk. This effectively creates captains chairs if you want them. I prefer a bench though and am happy Honda did this.
Cool dude… a big fun of Honda Pilot EXL … with tong of great features… fantastic…
i noticed honda US build quality seems to be top notch compared to the US made toyotas
iVTM-4 is, IMO one of if not the best AWD systems. Years ago I had a 2009 Touring and I was always impressed with its performance. We did some light off-road and some really heavy snow, which always did great. I will remind people that Honda suggests a 24,000 fluid change in the iVTM-4 differential. I did it myself a couple of times, and back then it was
Sorry, may I ask what is the fluid? I have a Pilot touring as well.
very informative, thank you.
@@peterw3782I believe it’s dual pump fluid II
hello! I live in Russia and bought a Honda pilot 2020. honda left Russia and for sanctions , I am writing to you about replacing consumables of oils and liquids , I change the oil in the rear differential every 10 thousand km , in the engine as well , and how many minutes do you lose ? Thank you in advance
Hello! You are my main tester who will decide me to buy the new 2026 passport! I hope you will test it in the same places where it failed. Either in the woods in the small tight curve where it remained on the spot because the all-wheel drive system was not efficient enough. And in the mountain with the snow when it needed power to continue its momentum but it cut the power and you remained stopped.
Ryan, Some of us are old enough to remember 'Honda' SUVs built on a frame. I wonder if Isuzu is interested in reuniting in a partnership. 🤔
honda just bebadges again like GM partnership
@@67keyakaren68 pilot is not a rebadge.
Really tempting to go back to Honda with their 2025 line up. I wonder if they have a hybrid plan coming up soon. 4:05 My family do prefer the bench seats over captain seats. Center armrest and cup holders are more convenient for them.
Sure
Same here waiting to have hybrid trim and 8 seater! Hoping v6 still remain
It's all good, but 56k is ridiculous. The dealers are going creasy increasing prices
It's reasonably priced, reliability and all
I purchased a 2025 Black Edition for less than 50k in March of this year.
56k for all plastic interior lol
@@RichardVac not dealers. Manufacturing costs tripled. Americans voted for high inflation. Blame Americans.
@@diego2817 Look at Ford, Chevy, and Toyota. All plastic. If you want quality, buy BMW, Audi , or best there is Porsche.
Honda gives a great vehicle for 50k. Atleast it still comes with NA V6. Suspension and AWD is great. Drives smaller than what it is.
Love this channel!
Good Day, and Happy Saturday!!! 👍🌅
I had been doing a lot of research on Elite and Black edition and found out that except some exterior framing , there is no real difference between them. Price wise, Elite is a bit better than the Black edition. Therefore, I ended up buying the Elite. I really recommend Elite to anyone.
@adigamo
You are correct, the Elite and the Black are in every measure the exact same car. However, if you like the blacked out look and exclusive black with red trim interior, the price differential is small. The Elite's price is still high. If you are spending that amount, the price between them is no big deal. If you want to save some bucks and still get an amply equipped one, and can stomach an iffy stereo, the Touring is the best deal. For me, the non Bose stereo is a deal breaker, given that the Bose is a LOT better. That said, if you are an "audiophile" even the Bose system is meh. The non branded stereo is simply bad, not utter trash, but still definitely Walmart level🤣
Thank you for the nice review.
Thank you for the informative video. A full size spare tire is the deal breaker for me. Guess I’ll be going for the trailsport.
I don't mind the smaller screen. I'd take that and the buttons over a large screen and fewer buttons.
100 percent.
The screen is great! Simmer down with wanting a TV on your dash. 9" is plenty big enough.
Honda why would you put buttons, taking up the same space of a shifter, in place of a shifter? A shifter is safer and more predictable. In that you don't have to look when shifting. Honda is not the only manufacturer guilty of this notion. Innovation in place of safety is going backwards.
The height of this screen is actually taller than a lot of the 12” screens in competitors, which I find to be more usable. Having a super wide screen doesn’t really translate to ease of use.
As a f150 owner interested in the ridgeline(yes I know this is a pilot review) the things that would put the next gen ridgeline over the top for me would be basically this pilot but with just north of 300hp and 285ftlb tq, a little more back seat space, mpg improvement. And maybe be capable of 1500w power supply. Just a wish list though for what I need for my family.
I’m also an F150 driver today awaiting the next Gen Ridgeline. Good wishlist I’d say.
Hopefully Honda listens. They could sell a million of those if they made it more powerful and bigger back seats.
It would have to be a hybrid in that case.
I thank the screen is fine.
for base trim it is but ppl nowadays want big ones in high trims
The Mazda cx90 would be my choice, the inline 6 engine is a proven recipe for greatness.
Really miss my passport, should have never sold it. This is very tempting.
It’s sad they got rid of Vtec as it sounded nice on these at higher RPM but the iVTM-4 AWD has always been very respectable since the 2016+ years and Acura’s SH-AWD
Emissions regulations forced the issue. Still this is a fine engine.
@@zero2sixty244 it was only 1k rpm of Vtec. Nothing special.
The 2025 Honda Pilot Black Edition is a game-changer! Its aggressive look with those Gloss Black 20-inch alloy wheels and blackout treatments really make it stand out. Plus, the spacious interior with red stitching and advanced features like the 10.2-inch digital instrument cluster make it perfect for families and adventurers alike. Can’t wait to see it on the road!
the hell is game changing about this? It’s old, boring, slow and inefficient
@@67keyakaren68 My humble opinion.
This was written by an ai
@@67keyakaren68So what would you get?
I think my 2017 Ford Escape has an 8” screen lol. There’s something very classic and clean about this vehicle though being slightly stuck in time.
I like your '84 fiero t-shirt 😊
Reminds me of the game show Name That Tune.
Presently looking at The Pilot Touring, Elite and Black Edition..will buy one..but I am so annoyed with Honda for failing at the display game.. I just know when I buy my 2025 the 2026 models will upgrade the screen.. Thank you for the great video.
If Honda continued to offer an NA V6 with increased efficiency and reduced emissions in perpetuity it'll make for a nice calling card for them. It'll probably have to be hybridized, but it'll be a draw
Their next gen will be a hybrid 4 cylinder. Big drop in power. But more mpg. That’s what people want.
Ryan, as mentioned in your video of the Trail Sport, Honda's brake vectoring algorithm is quite impressive in Trail mode (compared to other crossovers). Honda should seriously consider adding a trim above the Trail Sport (like a Trail Sport X) with even more ground clearance, especially for the next Passport, if Honda wants to steal some customers from the Subaru crowd.
And especially the Ridgeline. Ditch the stupid brunk and get a full-size spare for a pickup.
The fact that it has v6 and auto tranny with torque converter, I still don't understand why people are buying big SUVs with cvts and turbo 4s.
Because they don’t care. For most a car is just an appliance.
is black edition their sporty trim? maybe its softer in the normal trims
The Pilot AWD system is the best on the market. Vastly superior compared to something like a Subaru who hasn't updated theirs since the early 2000s.
iam probably the only person who could careless about screen size after saying i might be on the 6oclock news haha
Middle seat come out in black edition goes in trunk storage space and provides you with captains chairs
56K for a pilot?! These car prices are getting insane
I was expecting it to be around 45k lol damn
Thanks Joe and Cameltoe Harris
@@TheEpicUnknown.. Thanks for being so open about your misogyny and ignorance in just one sentence.
@@trumpisastump9382 any time softy
@@trumpisastump9382 let me guess. You’re a dude who thinks he’s a chick, you probably have purple or pink hair, and you think dudes can get pregnant.
When you spoke of the minivan, i just wish it comes AWD. An Honda Odyssey was on my radar but after checking the specs, its only comes with a FR drive train.
Toyota Sienna is the AWD option.
Y'all can't just say that this chunk compares favorably to Subaru Ascent without data and without mentioning that top Fat Mama trim (Special 7 Touring) is still 10K cheaper than this red Black Edition. But the main points of the video are there - climbing in the back and stating that y'all are legs-torso proportionate. 😂 So you get your like.
Great that they have bench 2nd row. Captains chairs are so stupid.
I can assure you that with children they are not stupid lol
1000%
@brohammer I have 3 child and yes, captain chairs stupid
The old drivetrain in the Pilot was better when they switched to the more reliable 9 speed transmission made by ZF. Their previous engine was also better with Vtec!
Imagine letting 56k goes in this economy as a middle class worker.
Why is the Accord and Prologue the only Hondas to get a 12.3" & 11.3" screen?
The question we are all asking. Especially when it is clear the dash is designed to hold the larger screen from the Accord. It is really the biggest gripe I have with my 24 elite.
@@troydube8168probably saving it for the mid cycle refresh tbh
I'm thinking $56,xxx is a bit out of Honda's league, maybe it's just me
It's freaking is.
That is highest trim. Sport which still looks good can be had for $44,000
Honda will take 5k off.
I would pay 49k for it OTD. Almost 60k otd is crazy!
Welcome to current SUV pricing across all brands. At least here you get a reliable, quality built vehicle with a real V6 and auto transmission.
Great vehicle wish they do 8.3 inches for all pilots
Ryan, I missed the sand pit, is that still coming?
Black Edition aka Touring Sport Edition 😁 btw the GHL is its competitor now, not the regular one
Does it have a drone or app start
I would contend that at this moment the Pilot is probably the most reliable vehicle in this class. It’s pretty proven.
@@thomas735 transmission issues. panel gaps, paint issues, engine recalls nah
@@67keyakaren68 not aware of any transmission or engine issues with these
@@thomas735They did in 2023. All should be good now.
@@67keyakaren68Look at a new corvette. Those have the worse panel gaps.
Personally have no problem with a 9” inch screen. My current screen is 8” and I very rarely look at it anyways. No sure what the fascination is with the massive screens. Eyes should be on the road.
When using maps, seeing more streets in context is extremely helpful.
Nice SUV. Sad Honda still doesn’t have proper steering. I love the auto steering in my Volvo on highway driving. It will steer around bends just fine.
Ryan you're great at what you do however this new course isn't doing you justice. It's flat and boring to watch. The other courses had an incline which made it look more challenging and exciting while you climbed. The new course literally looks like a walk in the park.
this one should have the captain chairs in 2nd row. they should be optional in the trailsport along with the sunroof. give us a roof rack instead. not digging the all black interiors in either. i dont care about screen size but wish it were more integrated. really looking forward to the next passport trailsport as it should be the one to rule them all, hopefully. maybe a grand c killer as well, but it still wont have a low range like the new 4runner which i think will do well in term of sales in 2025 also, better than the wrangler and bronco anyway. 4r will be more affordable but not quite grand c sales numbers bc its still a truck and the grand c prob sells more as a 2wd crossover than other trims. the grand c and wrangler needs a new engine like the sst and interior refresh to keep up.
Agree on tired of all black interiors!!
Get creative, a little contrast won’t kill anyone.
As for the trail sport captains chairs, they force that option because the rear underfloor storage is different from the other trims so that they could fit a full size spare underneath, and thus there would be no storage space for the removable center seat as in the other trims.
I presume they went with captains chairs because a) they’re trendy and b) it was cheaper than fabricating a one off bench seat.
Just bought one! If you think of it as a more utilitarian, less flashy and less expensive version of the base MDX, you are absolutely correct. in fact, it ups the MDX mechanically in one category, Honda's in-house 10 speed transmission is better than the outsourced 9 speed in the MDX ( till Acura transitions to the 10 speed) 😉
BTW great review! Good job!
Current gen MDX uses Honda’s in house 10 speed.
@@alexanderarduini
True, my mistake.
@@Wised1000The engine in Pilot is newer than MDX but less HP still.
VTEC gone uses Cam Phasers.
@fredmoss4540
The engine of the Pilot and the regular MDX are exactly the same engine with slightly different tuning (J35y8). The MDX type S uses the old 3.0 with a turbo.
Can you do an Audi SQ5 sportback off-road video? Want to see if that Quattro drive system is capable of handling such
Notice the Ford Explorer doesnt come up when you talk about cross shopping. Is it just that bad / poor value or just not enough hands on time with it compare it fairly?
Explorer is poorly made.
Base sport trim also has paddle shifters 11:35
Please consider reviewing the GMC Acadia AT4 or the Traverse Z71
I just want a hybrid sport version of this or a mdx!
Hybrid will come out in next generation. It will be a 4 cylinder hybrid with 250hp. Loss is hp and torque, but you hybrid fans will be happy. 30mpg.
I think it would be much better to test drive base model if it is available to you, because majority of buyrs could not afford the top end model.
I am not sure it the base model is as capable.
Companies only send top trims. That way people know what all options are. Then they can decide if they want to step down.
Pilot. Just really worried about the tow capacity. My VW Toureg tows our camper and it’s like 4500 loaded so very close to the capacity of the ‘25 pilot.
Does it have adjustable accelerator pedal ?
No. IIRC Honda doesn’t offer that on any vehicle in the USA.
Could you review a 2025 gmc terrain?
Extra drive modes for only 7.3 inches ground clearance? Seems strange. Still, a very nice vehicle, like the AWD system.
Pathfinder lookin real good right now 👀
I am considering purchasing one but feel the pedals for someone 6 4 is too small as far as leg space
Does touring has the same off-road ability?
Same.
Wheres logs test ?
I disagree on the screen! We look at enough screens every day, and most of us don't want another huge, distracting, ugly tablet sitting in the middle of the dash. Most of us probably would prefer traditional gauges as well, with an info screen in the center.
Doesn't the Trailsport trim have 9.2 inches of clearance? That's a full 2.5 lift kit (suspension settles to around 1.9 inch lift). But I think it's authentic and not just some cheapo hockey pucks, because the ride quality is still great for such a big lift.
It’s fine until you need to use a map. Kind of crammed with the menus. The ground clearance on the TS is 8.3 inches.
Maybe he needs a bigger map because he's a door dasher on the side 😄
It irritates me when a vehicle has a black appearance package and half of the badges are in chrome.
This or the Palisade Calligraphy?
Thanks for the video. Do you know if the 2026 passport transmission is going to be updated?....
I know it doesn't pertain to this video.
I'm in between another used RX or that believe it or not...
Also to keep the algorithm going and stir the pot a little bit.... Why the heck are wranglers so expensive? It's just ridiculous.
effectively all wheel steering except it's not actually all wheel steering.
I still prefer the v6 version in my 2022 although I wish it had the 10-speed besides that 2025 is a big upgrade but until my 2022 literally dies.
I wish they make the screens bigger….
Nice ride except those screens that look 10 yrs old
Why they cant do a second row same way as mdx so customers have a choice
Good to see Honda is making the new 4runner!
@@HyperXism yup honda made a fake 4 runner
Hardly.
@@chuckwalla2967 it’s a fake wannna be tough 4x4. That’s what the 4 runner actually is. This is for wal mart
@@67keyakaren68 I'm with you. My reply was directed at the original comment.
@@chuckwalla2967 🫡
I couldn’t care less about the giant screens. My F150 has a 12 inch screen and I don’t think I use it for anything other than google map projection. What bothers me here is the placement of the screen. It looks like some cheap after market addition especially with the volume knob and a couple of tacky looking buttons directly on it.
Test the new Outlander PHEV S-AWC.
Looks like you don't want to hold the Pilot to too high of a standard when it comes to todays high technology.
Ryan, have you heard anything about the problems with the transmission on the newer pilots? I currently own a 21 CROSSTREK and feel like I would choose the Trailsport over an Ascent, but I’ve heard bad things about the trans.
The Info screen reminds you that you bought an outdated car. You will have to explain to everyone that you actually own The Black Edition, which cost a " little bit more"-like 10K
pilot good
This or Subaru ascent?!
Blacked out badges*
* Black Edition badge is chrome
Don't forget the chrome fake exhaust tips (real exhaust dumps down below rear bumper)
It’s not “extra torque”. It’s a portion of the available torque. In terms of performance it’s not really different from the brake-based systems in terms of steering and cornering. Just a different way of achieving it
@TK0O0O0O0
Not quite right. Braking to proportion torque is not the same as speeding up the opposite tire. both proportion torque but SHAWD also induces yaw, which in turn helps in handling. BTW, the magic sauce of the trail sport is that it has SHAWD (for the rear), plus it uses brake proportioning in the front, thus adding an additional layer of traction to the offroading chops. The trailsport can efficiently transfer up to 70% of torque to any wheel! The only thing with more traction than that would be fully locking differentials on both front, back and center (like the Mercedes G class).
56 grand for that interior is LOLLLL
I’m sure it’s a super reliable vehicle but that digital gauge cluster is pathetic looking, the 9 inch screen is fine but the location of the screen looks like an afterthought. This trim should not cost more than 50 grand. 47-48 would be most reasonable.
Great looking Pilot except for that extremely ugly back window!
It really needs an additional two inches for off-road clearences.
Nobody buys those to go off road