Fuji Pro 400h
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Why does this review of Fuji Pro 400h feel like a funeral service?
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When the world needed him most, depressed Walmart Ryan gosling left the clearance rack to give us this banger
Jason and Caleb should really make a Drive spoof film.
The only thing 400h offered to me was keeping portra prices in check. Now look at us.
accurate :D
I am addicted to Jason’s videos.
I'm addicted to you
@@grainydaysss 😏
I’m not addicted. I can stop whenever I want ; I just don’t want to ever stop watching.
Hi everyone and I’m also addicted to Jason’s videos
So am I!
You have to use a roll for night photography, I did a series shooting neon signs at night/ dawn in old neighborhoods around Seattle. 400h was my choice film stock for this project because of the cooler rendition.
I did see a lot of green casting within the mid tones and shadows of shots that were illuminated by incandescent bulbs, but that was easily correctable in the scanning process.
That pre-stickied end of the roll sticker always makes me think of that famous Japanese attention to detail, just that extra little bit of thoughtfulness
I think it’s important to state that the look of your film pictures is only half determined by the film you shoot. The other half if the display prep. That is, how you scan or print your negatives to be looked at as a final image. The only inherent look a color negative film can have, or maybe it’s better put by saying: the look a color negative film is being designed towards by the manufacturer, is for the developed neg to be printed onto photochemical paper in a darkroom or a lab. That is where the ASA ratings on the packaging stem from. Because the black point on a print doesn’t need to be so low, because the paper itself subtracts light. So the negative can be a bit less dense.
We love the Fuji Frontier scanners because they can by themselves be somewhat close to the look of Fuji‘s DP II paper.
There’re ways to calibrate them to look pretty much exactly like a print. And Negative Lab Pro also has ways to bring you pretty close to that look.
Everything else is variation and does not serve as a benchmark to judge a films look. Unless Jason would provide us with the exact scanning settings he used for those pictures, it’s save to say that the Portra 400 to Pro 400H comparison is not conclusive.
I think it's a film that performs outstandingly well in very precise conditions, but that is slightly less good for general use (although I still always manage to make it look exactly how I want, it just often requires a little bit more editing work). I was visiting Marseille in the south of France this fall and Pro 400H worked amazingly well with the earthy and already quite warm tones of this very Mediterranean setting. The teal blue sky of Portra with the yellow accents on already pretty yellow buildings never really looked right for me and I ended up always trying to replicate the rather desaturated look of the Pro 400H rolls I shot at the same place. Though, for that very same reason, I would not recommend shooting Pro 400H in very colourful scenarios if you have other options. Earlier, I was shooting it in Lille in northern France and the results weren't quite as successful, notably due to the more vivid colour palet of the place (where Lomo 800 and Portra 400 were doing a great job). The other huge selling point for me was the price. While Portra is, I believe, a slightly better film, it is certainly not worth 1,5 times the price of Pro 400H. Here in Montreal, a roll of Pro 400H in 120 go for around 10CA$ while Portra is generally hovering more towards 16CA$ (though I know of a place that sells it for less than 14CA$!). Given my limited budget, I would go 7/10 times for Pro 400H. I find the lost of this film stock to be a tragedy because it robs me of my main source of cheap yet excellent 120 colour film that I can afford to shoot casually without being too bothered for wasting a frame or two (and I already shoot 645 for that same budget reason).
Edit : wording and spelling
Let me guess, Photo Service nearby Notre-Dame ? :)
Dam, I know it gets a bad rap but Pro400h does slap at night photography and it is so much more affordable than portra and has great dynamic range, I was really glad it was there, it was always a decent alternative to portra.
Gone now though so it’s a moot point.
The panning photos you end the videos with are always awesome. Merry Christmas to you, Monica, and of course Baxter!
Hey I’ve just got to say that these videos over the past 2 years have been one of the biggest uplifts of my life.
These past 2 years I’ve been working on the frontline of covid here in the UK like many others and lately I have been wearing thin and watching you’re videos helps encourage me to keep going out and doing the thing I love most when at times I just wish to lay in bed to hope the world will just move past to leave me behind so I can rest.
I really can’t count the amount of times I’ve watched you’re videos that make me laugh when I don’t feel like i have it in me, inspire me when I think I can’t and calm me with your amazing talent as a photographer calms the soul while also inspiring me to try be a greater photographer. Plus the bromance between you and Caleb is always absolutely brilliant the beautiful beast😂.
Hope you and to all that watch your inspiring videos have had an amazing Christmas and a happy new year
Hearing Jason say “is that you my boy” really tickled my ear canal and sent a warmth into my body I wasn’t actually ready for
I used to go to these places with my mom and dad when they were alive. Beautiful work Jason, I’m thinking about moving back to the springs.
Compliments of the Season to and your wonderful family.
I use to go through 15 rolls (120 stock) per day 5 days a week of NPH back in the late 90s and early 2000s. It was a great film and the printer in the lab did a great job of printing from it. I loved it
Many banger pics and the jokes are still as sharp as the mamiya lenses. I even enjoy your ads. Happy holidays mr. Grain.
We all aspire to be like Dm_vin, he's a true family man
I really hope fuji eventually brings back Pro400H! I shot a couple rolls in Joshua Tree National Park on my channel and the images came out amazing! Your images in this one were sooo good dude
I work at a photo lab and 400h in 120 is the best to load! The tape is so much better then Portra and it’s so much easier to open in the dark bag. It will be missed!
Baxter's appearences:
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Happy Christmas to everyone.
Saludos amigos
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that's not good
This is the worst christmas ever
There are some absolutely cracking shots in here 👌
Thanks for reminding, just bought three more boxes of this film. Yes, it jumped quite a bit in price (€33 last year to €49 right now) but here it still is cheaper than any Kodak colour film. It's not only cheaper but more important I do also like Fuji more.
Came across this video as I’m sitting here in my terminal at Denver International, waiting to go home to Michigan. Now I’m wishing I would’ve made the drive down to Garden of the Gods, although I did enjoy taking my AE-1s to Red Rocks, Colorado Springs and Sylvan Lake State Park while I was here! If you haven’t made it to Michigan yet, you won’t be disappointed with the views, particularly in Northern Mi and the Upper Peninsula.
I've stocked up with a dozen rolls.. I love this film!
A dozen??? Where do you find the money for this
@@nathanr4633 I bought them from my local lab at about 9 euro a piece a couple of years ago.
I’m pretty sad it’s gone. I live in Wales which is very lush and green but also quite often overcast. The colours from Pro400H always made it look awesome though!
hey man. always excited to see an upload of yours. keep up the work and stay positive my friend
Last time I was this early, kodak hadn’t bumped their prices again 😪
Low key was nerding out to the fact that you used the same lo-fi song in this video as I did in mine🔥 lol! Thanks again for the lesson and I'll for sure keep watching and utilizing the inspiration into my photography pilgrimage 🙏🏽
Where is Ektachrome christmas?
And talking about Pro 400h being able to mitigate strange color casts under artificial light, Nick Carver said in a video (the one about the 80s where he shoots in an abandoned shopping center) that he really likes Pro 400h for shooting indoors
wish this was another one hour travel vid! but this was great as usual!
Thanks for another interesting video! I had similar experiences with Pro 400, the 35mm version. When I saw the results of my first attempt, shot at boxspeed, I asked myself if I am too stupid to shoot film or if this film might be a little overhyped. But when I tried it a second time, shot at ISO 200 it looked much more interesting and - as you’ve said - pretty similar to Portra 400 shot at ISO 200. Maybe Pro 400 renders colors a tiny bit cooler but all in all, both film stocks are quite similar. By the way, the photos you took on your little trip look really good👍.
ive done 2 rolls of 400h at box speed and i thought the same thing. ill def try it at iso 200 as soon as i can
@@felixnurscher6017 I would recommend to wait for a sunny day. If you are, like me, living in the northern hemisphere, those cloudy, grey and dark winter days are not very well suited for Pro 400. But if you wait for one of these rare clear, cold and sunny winter days this film stock might sing for you!
You can still buy Fuji Pro 400h at B&H in the us or at Amazon Japan. It’s got a look and worth having a few rolls. I think it looks best with portraits
If you ever come to Switzerland, I promise I will be impressed by your Mamiya
While Ilford does produce Acros II (and some other brand’s BW films like Rollei) its chemical formulation is still Fujifilm’s.
Pro 400H was really good under tungsten light. Definitely better than Portra 400 is.
Fuji Superia 400 ditched the fourth color layer in 2018 to be easier to produce. But it’s still the most versatile consumer film and actually the second best stills film in tungsten light after CineStill 800T. It can still produce a more natural representation of tungsten light than any of Kodak’s films. It’s also currently the best bang for the buck film now. At 400 you’ll get somewhat green shadows and a more muted image. It looks pretty natural at 320 and has a nice punch at 250. At 200 it really starts to pop. It’s really nice to have an alternative to the warm look of the Kodak films and that can produce some good looking magenta skin tones. Since Pro 400H is gone, Superia 400 is my go to if I want something different.
And just you know I have booth rolls of Natura 1600 and a significant other and I hold both of them close.
RIP Superia. It was because of this comment that I learned to love Superia by shooting it at 320 and below.
Now it's been replaced with Ultramax... Joining Fuji C200 as a film replaced by a Kodak offering.
Admittedly, I have seen some results and it seems to be slightly cooler than Ultramax. Why Fuji just can't offer up their formulation, I dunno. Maybe chemical/mechanical differences on the production lines?
@@LaskyLabs I think it’d just be too much work for Kodak at that price. Also why make a better film than their own for a competing brand? But it doesn’t seem to all dead just yet. At least in Japan production just seems paused. Also the new “Fujifilm” 400 isn’t quite the same as the current Ultramax, not like “Fujifilm” 200 is just Gold.
@@VariTimo I'm hearing that it's closer to Lomo 400, or an older variant of Ultramax. Admittedly I've seen that it is a little cooler. I need to try it myself before I can say for certain though.
@@LaskyLabs Yeah something like that is probably the case. The spec sheet looks a lot like an older version of Ultramax from before the 2007 update. But the reds are different.
@@VariTimo Fuji always had reds that popped on their consumer films. That was something I liked.
Just what I wanted for Christmas
I really need to get another pack of this while I can!
Dude's makes me want to shoot films again after watching several of his videos, I honestly really reaally tempted right now to raid my savings and get an Hasselblad xpan or Fuji tx1...
Man you make me laugh out loud every time... Love the video's man!
Cute hat Jason 🎅❤️
It’s actually a 50 asa film and vin diesel sued to increase the speed thinking it was faster which made him furious.
Yo, I live in CO Springs! There are a lot of cool older buildings, old cars and other relics of the later 20th century around here. I think it's a place that really fits your style. If you're ever back you should drive the 45min or so out to Victor/Cripple Creek for some true old mountain town stuff. Also of course Pikes Peak and Cheyenne Canyon are good opportunities
photo of the yoga place is a masterpiece
Can't believe you just glossed over 10:17 such an amazing photo
Kyle McDougall did one of his famous exposure latitude tests on Pro400h several years ago. Based on his results, he also determined that Pro400h looks best when exposed at ISO 200. Thus, I have only ever shot this film at ISO 200. And I will say that Pro400h in 35mm doesn't look nearly as nice as when shot in 120 format, even if both are shot +1 stop overexposed.
I haven’t finished the video but I hope you loved the penny arcade in manitou springs. Or “some mountain town”.
Pro400H is my favorite for night photography, i love the way it renders things like streetlights and scenes lit by them. I typically expose at box speed and let my F100 meter for me. Unfortunately I'm down to only four rolls of 135 (got lots of 120 though)
What meter setting do you use on the f100? I find matrix underesposes
@@mattbettinson4576 i use matrix, often +1 exposure compensation. I find it typically between ends up between 1/15 and 1/45 at f/1.4 when the scene is lit mainly by things like traffic lights and neon signs.
*epic slap* = instant upvote. Solid content strategy.
Holds highlights like a boss
thanks for great video...I was able to snag the last run of Fuji 400H in Shibuya/Tokyo last week glad to hear that I was the last person to buy the last stock cant decide where to shoot it though.....
its still in my fridge...
its still in my fridge....
Babe wake up new grainydays just dropped
Thanks Jason
Love that shot with Monica. I think Fuji Film Suits her perfectly.. :)
This video hurts so much💔 Fuji Pro 400 was my absolutely favorite. Only eight rolls left😢
Christmas came early 🎄
The shot at 10:09 is just ooooooo so good
Great video!
I love your videos. I’ve even shot some expensive ass film that came out shit but hey… live and learn. Kinda.
Please use it at night, it's amazing. I usually prefer it over cinestill, it renders colors way nicer in my opinion
I love that shot at 10:10
Fuji loves outdoor scenes of green and blue
Re: Fuji Greens - given how they render greens in all of their digital film simulations, especially Classic Chrome, yeah. Fuji knows what it's doing with its color science.
Also, Provia still exists, get it while you can.
literally 10 seconds in and my day is made
I bought a ton for my Contax 645 recently. But I loaded a roll from 2013 in my camera this summer and I've got 1/2 a roll left.
Happy New year! Did you compensate for 400H @half box speed in development and do you shoot Portra 400 @200 as well?
Anyone else let out an outstanding "OOOOOO😬😵" when Jason got slapped out of no context 🤣
4:39 Well Edward Hopper-ed! 👏👏👏
As someone who just wrote a huge essay on the Gamuts of color films, it would be fascinating to see how that Cyan sensitive layer affects the colors. Thanks for the video
got a link?
@@JonnyRobbie You mean to the research? I do, but the issue is it's not complete, I only examined spectral sensitivity of the sensitive layers but not spectral density of the color dyes themselves.
@@chrisbruinsma4384 I've created a plugin to simulate RA-4 prints (and bw too), though it was only from official datasheets and not from real world gathering. I was wondering if your research might help me figure out if I've made any mistake in my model.
@@JonnyRobbie It's possible it could, although I'm not sure because it doesn't actually define what colors the film produces only what amplitude it is sensitive to at minimum.
i love your videos, me encantan su videos
Your videos always pair best with a couple bottles of wine.
cool, thank you
Oh thats one way to start a vid. wow. RIP pro400H. I think overexposing it, is the only way to shoot it. Havn't been a fan of many photos I have taken with 400h. Loalding ASMR video coming soon? Oh 200 iso, I will shoot my last two rolls at 200 after seeing these images. They do look better overall. I do hold my Natura 1600 really close nightly. Baxter has a nice rack. Great video per usual.
Can you fill us in on how your process of scanning 400H has changed. As you mentioned at the start years ago you had bad results and it could be lab dependent. Just interested in how you changed to get the right results
It really is the best for night photography imo
10/10 editing
Pro 400H is magical*
*when scanned on the Frontier SP3000.
Dang i wish i could’ve met with you! I just went to garden of the gods today it was amazing
I made a comment on Reddit the other day about the F3 having a Vasiliy slap and no one got the reference. The slap in the begging of this video triggered those terrible memories.
My man, I don't know if you have a pack film polaroid but with how Fujifilm FP-100C got discontinued in 2016 it might be worth looking into. Prices are high but not terrible for film and it's only going to get harder to find. Would love to hear your thoughts on the film!
No Baxter cameo, give me back my time... who am I kidding, love your vids :)
I have 1roll of this film. It came with my Holga 120N off eBay. It sits in my fridge.
Can’t wait for an ektachrome Christmas
I am addicted to Jason
I just walked into my local camera shop and found a stash of 400h on the shelf. Needless to say the shelf looks very empty now. I love this stuff at 200iso. I don't care if it really is or isn't 200iso it just looks good like that but then I also like portra 400 at 200iso so ...
YES
I love the way you say two packs of five when I'm literally shooting one roll a month due to the price where I live.
The Fuji film that I miss the most is Reala.
yes
Other than the legendary Velvia (of course) and the Pro NPS160 this was the best film - I must have put 5K rolls of this through an RZ and a 500cm back in the day for fashion and catalogue work - all good
Jason, will you please include more slap boxing clips in future episodes? Maybe you could recreate all of Fight Club (1999) for us. Thank you
Was gonna take a shower but now I have to put it on hold
I saw the thrift store, hope you got a $10 steal there 😉
About the cyan filter thing: I agree it might’ve lend a hand in photographing shitty mall lighting, and making it look heavenly somehow. At least, that’s my experience with Fuji Superia!
Nice jumper.
After the Kodak price increase it might actually be cheaper to buy 400h than portra 400
I would buy Pro400H over the last few years because it was $20 CND a roll while Portra was like $25.
I am wondering, if there is much difference between a Fuji Pro 400H ICC profile applied to a digital camera and the analog original?
You have to try shoot it 1 under and push in development.
Hey, Jason - what frame rate are you shooting on your Sony? It seems to be cutting frames out of the microphone shots - I had a similar problem where I shot in 25fps and not realised I had edited and exported in 24fps.
Looking forward to another Ektachrome Kwissmiss.
You need to try Fuji Pro 160ns.
Hi Jason I just bought 2 5packs of fuji pro 400h (you know, business, I'll be rich selling them in a couple years) I don't understand if you're just overexposing it or pull-processing it. You shoot it at 200 iso but you develop it at 400? or the development also goes at 200?