Good video. Eric has forgotten more about suspensions than I will ever know. He was instrumental in getting the old FM2 Tokico package properly set up on my NA and making the new Koni package sing on my NC. Both work so much better than stock (even with Bilsteins on the NC) with much more precision steering, flat controlled cornering and Softer, yes softer ride quality. These packages are brilliantly designed and Eric is the Guy for getting them dialed in. Once you experience a really good suspension you find out what all the fuss is about, I love them both and would never go back.
I have the fm springs, sway bars and konis on my nb. Best money I've spent in a while. Everything you need is in the kit. The same was true for their timing belt/water pump kit. The specialty tools are great too. Can't say enough good things about my experience with Flyin Miata so far.
@@dailymeds5596 I have my konis adjusted to a firmer setting than the kit suggested as a close to factory firmness. That said, on the highway no major difference. In the twisties, way better. Like surprise a motorcycle better. The flying miata springs remove much of the rake. The stance of the car looks much better. Fyi, I'm running a factory 16" wheel.
Had the VMaxx on a previous NB. Nice package. Now I have another NB and am going the stage 2 Koni route with springs and anti-roll bars. Had the koni yellows on a GTI I owned years ago and loved them.
Thanks for these videos -- they really make it easier to decide where to spend my money. I'm looking forward to the install video, since that will help me decide whether to tackle it on my own or spend a bit more for a shop to do the work.
Just did my first track day in my nb2 stock with 800 tread tirea lol. Grand junction motor speedway was a great day. But, i need suspension help for sure. The car was definitely past its limit today.
NA: yes. NB: no. NC: no. ND: not at the time this was shot, but they are now. Note that their method of height adjustment will affect the amount of available suspension bump travel, so we usually recommend using the tallest setting as that’s what the springs will be designed for.
@@jeffrbake I don't think it's anywhere near that much. I wouldn't expect the suspension to work very well if you just remove 1.5" of bump travel with no changes to spring rate. On the NA, it's about 3/4" at most.
We've got a video showing the Fox Suspension installed into an ND, as well as a separate sway bar installation video. This should cover pretty much everything in our Stage 2 suspensions. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out!
I have a question for you guys, FLYIN' MIATA KONI STAGE 2 SUSPENSION PACKAGE ND or Bilstein B14 (PSS) - Suspension Kit? I really like the Koni ones but I want to know the differences of this two.
It's hard to say, given that there's very little technical information available about the Bilsteins. We know the Flyin' Miata setup maintains full suspension travel and includes upgraded rear bumpstops, and has spring rates that are well matched to the ride height and the shocks. As for the Bilsteins - what are the spring rates? What's the shaft travel? How well is the valving matched to the springs? We know they're not adjustable for damping, and we know that the people selling them are not the people that developed them so nobody actually knows anything about them. On the surface of it, the Bilsteins offer adjustable ride height but not adjustable damping and the Konis are the other way around. But that's ignoring the details that actually make a suspension work properly, and those details cannot be evaluated for the Bilsteins due to a lack of information.
I have the KONI’s with the stage 2 kit on an NB. Completely changed the car for the better. Handles sooo much better.
Good video. Eric has forgotten more about suspensions than I will ever know. He was instrumental in getting the old FM2 Tokico package properly set up on my NA and making the new Koni package sing on my NC. Both work so much better than stock (even with Bilsteins on the NC) with much more precision steering, flat controlled cornering and Softer, yes softer ride quality. These packages are brilliantly designed and Eric is the Guy for getting them dialed in. Once you experience a really good suspension you find out what all the fuss is about, I love them both and would never go back.
Thanks for sharing Greg, It's great to hear you are enjoying the Konis! Eric is awesome, and I'll make sure to pass your comments along!
I have the fm springs, sway bars and konis on my nb. Best money I've spent in a while. Everything you need is in the kit. The same was true for their timing belt/water pump kit. The specialty tools are great too. Can't say enough good things about my experience with Flyin Miata so far.
Did the ride comfort decline, improve or largely stay the same after the upgrade?
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I have my konis adjusted to a firmer setting than the kit suggested as a close to factory firmness. That said, on the highway no major difference. In the twisties, way better. Like surprise a motorcycle better. The flying miata springs remove much of the rake. The stance of the car looks much better.
Fyi, I'm running a factory 16" wheel.
Had the VMaxx on a previous NB. Nice package. Now I have another NB and am going the stage 2 Koni route with springs and anti-roll bars. Had the koni yellows on a GTI I owned years ago and loved them.
Why did you decide to go with the konis vs the VMaxx this time?
Awesome video, really helps me to decide what I’m am getting for my NB.
The NB has lots of options. If you need more details or first hand impressions, give us a call!
Hope to see more ND content
Thanks for these videos -- they really make it easier to decide where to spend my money. I'm looking forward to the install video, since that will help me decide whether to tackle it on my own or spend a bit more for a shop to do the work.
We'll be doing an install video for the ND, NC and NA/NB. The ND video will drop in the next week or so, so keep an eye out!
Just did my first track day in my nb2 stock with 800 tread tirea lol. Grand junction motor speedway was a great day. But, i need suspension help for sure. The car was definitely past its limit today.
I have FM/Koni suspension on my nb and nc. Great setup.
So many suspension options to choose from!
thanks this really helps
Great video!
How do these compare to bilstein or ohilins suspension?
Aren't Konis height adjustable?
NA: yes.
NB: no.
NC: no.
ND: not at the time this was shot, but they are now.
Note that their method of height adjustment will affect the amount of available suspension bump travel, so we usually recommend using the tallest setting as that’s what the springs will be designed for.
@@TargaMiata Thanks. Just helped my friend unpack Koni's for ND and delighted to confirm they are height adjustable!
@@TargaMiata doesn't the Koni lower the ND enough for the wheel fitment to look correct? About 1.5 inches?
@@jeffrbake I don't think it's anywhere near that much. I wouldn't expect the suspension to work very well if you just remove 1.5" of bump travel with no changes to spring rate. On the NA, it's about 3/4" at most.
@@TargaMiata oh ok. If I am wanting to lower enough to make the fitment better on my ND RF is my only option the fox kit then?
Do you guys have a how to install video for the FM stage 2 install ln Nd? Cant find one
We've got a video showing the Fox Suspension installed into an ND, as well as a separate sway bar installation video. This should cover pretty much everything in our Stage 2 suspensions. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out!
@@FlyinMiataVideo yea i seen it but dont remember showing if we have to drill a hole 12mm size
For the koni shaft things like that
Thinking about getting the koni 1.5 setup for my NA. I have 20550*15 tires, and I was wondering if I'd have to roll fenders. Thank you!
Only if they're mounted on wheels with an offset that's far from stock, like smaller than +25.
Are the purple upper shock mounts still included? I don’t see the in the picture on the website. I’m planning on getting it soon for my 30 anniversary
Those are parts for 1990-97 Miatas. Your 30AE has a different rear suspension design that is not as limited in travel.
Flyin' Miata thank you!
I have a question for you guys, FLYIN' MIATA KONI STAGE 2 SUSPENSION PACKAGE ND or Bilstein B14 (PSS) - Suspension Kit?
I really like the Koni ones but I want to know the differences of this two.
It's hard to say, given that there's very little technical information available about the Bilsteins. We know the Flyin' Miata setup maintains full suspension travel and includes upgraded rear bumpstops, and has spring rates that are well matched to the ride height and the shocks.
As for the Bilsteins - what are the spring rates? What's the shaft travel? How well is the valving matched to the springs? We know they're not adjustable for damping, and we know that the people selling them are not the people that developed them so nobody actually knows anything about them.
On the surface of it, the Bilsteins offer adjustable ride height but not adjustable damping and the Konis are the other way around. But that's ignoring the details that actually make a suspension work properly, and those details cannot be evaluated for the Bilsteins due to a lack of information.
@@FlyinMiataVideo For me that's good information FM, Thanks for respond and know I'm sure to buy the Koni with you guys.