100% with you on the camera system - fun to use, strong photos, but surprisingly similar to last year's phones given the enormous theoretical leap in hardware. Goes to show how much of smartphone photography nowadays is based on computing
@@vkh2k6 I'd like to remind you that nearly all art you interact with on a day to day basis these days was created on a computer in one way or another. Physical "real world" art is almost exclusively reserved for fine arts and "crafts" which is a dwindling practice to say the least. Not that its not all great, just think you might be a little confused.
"I don't have the instrument to measure the nits on a phone… but BASED ON MY EYES, it's 10-15% brighter…" - when Dave has reviewed so much tech that his eyes becomes digital.
In Europe, preorders are bundled with Bose 700 headphones which are way over 300$. That makes both phones a real bargain! With such bundle, I had no problem to push the order button for the 6 Pro.
That's basically 100% marketing. The Bose headphones 700 were released over 2 years ago. You can get them now for about £100. Not a terrible preorder bonus, but not as good as it seems
Thank you so much for cooling me off a little. After all this hype from ... everywhere, one does need a more balanced and true-to-life a review. Much appreciated!
Review? Strong word. He talked about something which people use for less than 5% of the time they use their phone for most of the video. He never even mentioned one of the biggest selling points behind the Pixel, which is the software experience.
@@johnappleseed2635 i am a Pixel User (4a 5g) and I just gotta say it... Android 12 is worse than Android 11. They sacrificed efficient design for what feels like a kindergarden playground. A Lot of stuff requieres more time/ touches. When I go out, I usually turn off WiFi and turn on Mobile. Easy as hell on 11, pretty much 2 clicks. On 12 I have to open Internet and that opens an oversized list, then I have to toggle my stuff on and off. It's both, uglier and slower. And that is just one example... They fucked up a lot of stuff, just to make people feel like they experience Something new, instead of actually improving upon what was fantastic already.
@@ryudjn6590 That's all fine, whether you like Android 12 or not. This is the most important aspect of the phone and it was not discussed!! That's what's annoying me.
@@ryudjn6590 Android 10 was peak Android imo. Quick settings had 9 elements instead of 6. Android 12 sucks so much though, idk why they had to make everything so big and combine wifi/data into one quick setting
@@ryudjn6590 they simplified the internet toggle specifically for your use case. Most of us use the wifi toggle to turn it off so mobile data is used instead. They've already explained that it will be coming in a feature drop
Thanks a lot Dave for being yourself. It's so easy to go through your reviews without getting the feeling that you're watching a review from a fan boy. I love them!
Finally someone giving a realistic, real use case review. I see so many reviews comparing the pro to the iphone 13 pro max. But considering that other than the zoom, the camera experience is going to be basically the same, the 600 dollar pixel 6 is an absolute steal for the price.
But why, WHY, did Google have to butcher the looks of the Pixel 6 (non-pro) ? That bezel is looking so outdated already, and the overall design does not look premium at all compared to the Pixel 6 Pro and Samsung's flagship offerings. I get that the price is reflected in this, but still...
His choice of words, less bs and more personal knowledge about the phone are among the things that kept me watching his videos. Two thumbs up for this! 😁😁
@@Cman775 Yes. They’re more expensive than the Oppos and Xiaomis. The only thing you were paying more for was a good software experience. If it’s just as lackluster as in the rest of chinese counterparts, why would you waste money?
Loved your critical analysis especially of the camera. A key part of a reviewer's job is to separate the truth from the hype, and this is exactly what I was looking for. While the Pixel 6 series is still very attractive, Google's hype had really built up like crazy over the last few months.
The one thing that is really missing here is Googles reliance on their software for image processing, that's what made them so good for so long. It seems like they upgraded the cameras but the images all look similar to last year because it's all under the same settings as last year. The Pixel 6 could go from great to THE camera with future software updates...It's just up to google now.
@@supermotosavage3916 That's true. Especially the "same settings" bit. A good thing for me is... I didn't go for the Pixel 5 last year because it was harder to get the Green in Sweden (at a decent price and locally). This year, I can travel to get the 6. So... I don't mind as much. Now that being said, I secretly hope they fix some of the issues I've seen in reviews left and right because it's mostly software, BUT and that's a gigantic BUT... I'd advise against counting on update to fix anything for such devices. I'm fine with what's on offer and the trade-offs. And if not, that'd be a no-go TODAY and until proven otherwise. Too many people get burned *assuming* THE update is coming. ;)
I have a Oneplus 8 5G and hate the camera quality and phone is laggy between apps, etc. Only after 1 year of use. Im debating on switching and getting the Pixel 6 Pro. Would you make this choice?
Which sucks because the OnePlus 7 Pro was the best phone of its year for me. It was the best looking, it went brave with the pop-up camera, the 90hz and all. There was no contest, even by today's standards it's an amazing phone. Then they released garbage, brought back the holepunch shit and increased the price for no reason. Too bad.
I feel like we’ve reached peak smartphone camera when it comes to photos. Only if you really pixel peep are going to notice improvements. So nobody should be expecting a smartphone camera to be significantly better year to year.
Yeah, we're kind of at the point where phones are already really good at doing what most people use them for... that's why everyone is pushing funky colors, alt designs like folds, moar battery, and subjective design choices like refresh rate which is nice but not $400 difference for a new phone nice. Phone makers are getting to the same point where lightbulbs ended up... lasting too long, being too good. They got together and agreed to purposely make lightbulbs worse... profits skyrocketed. Illegal now of course, but it's only a matter of time before phone manufacturers start getting desperate with ways to push minimal advances.
That's why phone reviews are boring. Everyone expects DSLR quality from a freakin plastic phone. It's never gonna happen. I want to see an actual review on the device, system, OS and display.
@@CrystallineLore I feel like this is a bigger issue on the Android side than the Apple side, given that Apple supports their phones for several years (full OS update support too, not just security updates). Android device makers, Google especially, really needs to figure out a way to double their support window, especially with phones that have those premium $1000+ price tags.
Finally, the review we've all been looking for. I love Dave's videos because you know that it's going to be no-bullshit, and it'll be as close to a real life performance review, as can be. Everyone else tends to focus on the marketing material exclusively, and completely forget to cover the important stuff
Well actually the reason why all the others were able to only talk about the marketing is because to get the review copy of the phone and review it, they had to follow a set of rules by the manufacturer, Google. So Google said you're able to talk about marketing here and on this certain date you can make a full review.
@@fjsioewiox true, this guy must only watch the extremely popular and poorly made content. Its like the world only exists in this linus tech tips like bubble
He's not the only good tech reviewer. Secondly, this video was 85% on the camera and the rest what's different between the 2 and how prices differ... There is so much more to the pixel experience than that.
No. This is not a review. This is a camera analysis. He barely mentioned anything useful with regards to every other aspect of the phone that are more important since we aren't on the camera app all day.
I would love the regular 6 over the pro. I think the price point of the regular pixel 6 is amazing for the quality of the phone + camera + android experience we get (still I would love a music player app for offline content by Google out of the box … TH-cam player thing isn’t that good ). I think the regular pixel 6 would really do well in sales too.
This review really settled me into believing that my strategy of just swapping phones every 3rd year is doin pretty good. I get to really be 'Wowed' by the sudden snap forward with 3 generations of incremental improvement, instead of just bein kinda bummed that the new phone is pretty similar to what I already had. I know that's not a possibility for you as a Tech Reviewer by trade, of course.
@@pathsgfx Maybe that works for obsessed photo people that look for every detail in photos instead of just taking a photo to have with their friends and family. But honestly my MI MAX 3 from 2018 still feel great infrond of current phones on similar price so I am not that impressed by 3 year old jump. I guess I can see a difference by trying to run only the most high demanding games but that is pretty much it.
Great review and very fair. Regarding the photo quality, people need to decide, do they want brighter photos with more contrast or photos that look as close to real life as possible? I think Pixels are excellent at doing the latter, which is personally ideal. You could always throw it into an editing app.
@Kevin I agree.The Pixel 6 photos look more true to life, and it's Super Saf also mentioned in his camera comparison between the iPhone 13 Pro Max and the Pixel 6 Pro.
Great video, as expected from Dave! Would have loved more coverage of other ML-based features Google is offering with the Pixel though. I see most reviews not even cover features like improved speech-to-text, translation, call hold/spam call features, which, I think, bring a significant quality-of-life improvement for the user. I still can't use STT reliably for typing on my Samsung S20 (maybe because of my slight accent), so I'd be a lot more interested in such features than a marginally better photo that I can only judge by putting it next to something better. I'm glad to see Pixel make progress in those areas!
@@tamalsaha4409 Just did, he did a better job IMO. Dave could've made this a "Pixel 6/Pro Cam" kind of video, but this video is titled "review" and I find it lacking in that scope.
For some reason big TH-camrs operate under the idea that smartphones are cameras with a phone attached instead of small computers that have many features. Notice how little they bother with the very useful IR blaster on Xiaomi phones or about the phone having SD Card, wifi signal quality and GPS quality and many other features that each manufacturer puts. They barely make a casual mention while wasting multiple videos comparing cameras. I think this opsession may also be a reason many manufacturers are so focused on camera features as well.
@@rick_terscale1111 I did, pixel 6 pro looks awesome and while the new camera set up is cool it proves most photos advanced are going to come from software instead of hardware neat stuff i was just tired and treated it like a podcast
As a tech enthusiast, I personally don't like the trend that reviewers are following where the camera dominates the review. I really couldn't care less how good the camera is. I care about EVERY other aspect of the phone infinitely more. I say this with the reality that the average camera quality in phones is sufficiently high. You spend 95% of the time on your phone NOT on the camera app. Why is more than half of this video talking about the camera.......
You're right. But honestly this doesn't bother me very much because when it comes down to it, device offerings really don't distinguish themselves very much from each other. Experiences are overall similar. The things that tell phones apart for me are weird, quirky, nitpicky things I can totally understand reviewers never getting to talking about or seemingly not noticing.
I like the idea of keeping the same camera quality, adding better zoom capability, and a lot of new software features. I think the Apple idea of perfecting a feature before you move on, as opposed to bombarding us with new features that aren't quite perfected, is a good move.
I feel this is typical of Google. When they get into new hardware the launch is pretty anti climatic. But with time they make it up with the software. I feel a similar thing happened with the first Pixelbook. Was so buggy at launch, but with every Chrome Update things got smoothed out!
Google has botched every even numbered pixel model, other than the 4a 5g (which doesn't count). Looks like the 6 is no exception. I don't know if they have competing teams working on the models, or if they think people won't notice when they half ass a launch, but the 2, the 4, and now the 6 all suffer from flaws that are significant enough to affect sales but easily avoided. The pixel 2's dim screen. The pixel 4's parade of useless, AI driven party gags that destroyed battery life but didn't make the camera any better than the one in the pixel 3 (which I bought for $400 less rather than pay for the 4). Now with the 6, they opted for a cheap and proprietary chip design whose architecture is so notoriously low rent that Samsung phones sold with the Exynos processor are discounted in foreign markets compared to snapdragon models. I don't get it. Google already has the algorithms. It just needs a way to process them in real time like all of their competitors. But rather than give its software the hardware it deserves, it chooses a last gen, second rate chip that in the whole is barely any different than Samsung's reference design. As with every other even numbered phone, Google will learn its lesson by the time the Pixel 7 is released, so that will be a good phone. It has to be, what with that odd number in its name. 👍
@@UnlessRoundIsFunny What i feel is maybe they keep trying to experiment with things like removing ultrawide previous for telephoto then putting it back again lol. They really should stick to tested formulas and be like the rest, keep improving and refining then keep to this price point and increasing it only if there is a major hardware addition. That's basically what every Chinese companies were doing until they accumulated enough money for hardware R&D. Even Vivo or was it Oppo is attempting to make it's own chip where Sony failed. Google is a bit late to the game so they just have to "copy" the rest for now. Their advantage is their software, just like iOS.
@@UnlessRoundIsFunny I like my 4a though. The size is perfect, photos are reasonably good. It also has a front stereo sorta speaker. It has been a great experience using it since couple of months... 😁
@@sprudhvi583 The 4a is a great value, and its cameras are still pretty good (as are the ones on the Pixel 3 I am typing this on). But the 4a isn't a flagship release. If people shy away from the 6 because the video camera sucks, then the Pixel 8 will be the next opportunity for Google to convince the world that even numbers aren't cursed. Maybe it should just go straight from the 7 to the 9 instead, which is probably safer.
I pulled the trigger and bought the Pixel 6. I've gotta say, Dave is absolutely spot on about every point, especially the camera. I expected more from the camera but it's still really good. For $599, it's a fantastic phone. Suffice to say this is the cheapest phone I've ever owned and it competes with $800 - $1k phones.
And to think, if this is the baseline with Tensor being their first custom built silicon, I truly can't wait to see what Google brings to the table with Tensors successors over the next couple of years!
I don't normally comment on videos all that much, but I just enjoy Dave's videos so much. The down-to-earth review that is honest, you can't go past it. Thanks man. Keep up the good work!
Many thanks for the review! One of very few tech-yt, whom I really enjoy watching, and I can count on his observations, without too much hype. Thanks for staying true, my friend! Hope you will hit 10mio sooonish!
I love how phone reviews have pretty much become camera reviews :D. The thing with the camera stuff is that all you need to know is if its good. It doesn't really matter how the details compare because 99% of folks won't notice that stuff. The video I think is the big thing here and maybe a consideration? I wish more reviews just review the camera on its own first, before comparisons.
Also I feel like iphone camera reviews are grossly overrated. Sure, five years ago Android cameras were on average much worse than Apple's. But honestly, I feel like most big brand phones nowadays are roughly on par with cameras, especially considering the needs of the average person. I'm rocking a 4A and tbh it's my favorite phone I've had so far.
Strongly considered upgrading to the Pixel 6 Pro from my Galaxy Note 10+, but as someone who doesn't take a whole lot of photos, I don't see much reason to do so. This Note 10 is still the best phone I've ever used, and 2 years later it still rivals new flagships
Really excited to get my pro model in the mail. I do expect software updates to make some difference on the photography side of things, especially because the hardware is very good. That said I'm very pleased with the overall quality of the phone and features and that price tag!!!! The only disappointment for me personally was a lack of macro photography. Every other flagship phone has it. That's really a nitpick though when everything else is factored in
Here's a cheat I've been using on my Note 20 Ultra: you can easily take decently good macro shots by taking the telephoto as close to the object as you can
@@antikovt I'll have to give it a shot. I'm coming from a OnePlus 7 pro, and do consider myself a hobby photographer, so phone wise this will be a huge leap
Real question is how good will it be after six months considering a pixel always does major camera updates to improve the camera during that time span.
Dave, great video to talk about the camera hype everyone has been waiting for as a camera King. Can you do another video to focus on user experience this Pixel has compare to other high end phones? Without dwelling too much into photography? I am trying to justify if i should change my OnePlus 7T and trade it for Pixel 6 or the pro version ($300 more is kind of expensive).
Thank you so much for covering the video aspect of the phone. Most reviewers have been skipping it and that's the only thing I give a crap about. So glad I subscribed to you.
1:02 dude, photos in blasting sunlight from my GALAXY S4 look absolutely fantastic and still hold up side by side to a modern phone today. Performance in ideal lighting stopped mattering a long time ago.
I don’t think it’s going to change any apple users but it’s going to do very well in the android market due to the value you get for the price. Still, it feels like a transition phone and the next phone Google brings is going to be the beast.
I mean, if you're an apple fan because of the ecosystem, then sure. But if you just own an apple phone and are not using apple for their multi-device ecosystem, jumping into this pixel might actually be a great transition to android.
@@GuyLogen I know it's anecdotal, but most iPhone users I know wouldn't even consider an Android. As far as they are concerned the iPhone is the only phone that exists. They don't know anything about Android, they assume new iPhone features are actually new and haven't been Android phones for years. They assume Android phones are cheap and garbage and basically for poor people. That might seem excessive but it's pretty much true in my experience.
Why are all the reviews just about the cameras, what about performance? Screen colour? Other things that are important to people like me who love watching media, all types of media, I would love a detailed review of everything about the 6 pro
@@metalmaniacx79 Aside from pretty middling camera and slightly waning battery I'm still happy with my Oneplus 7T Pro. Cost me £699 a coupla years back and has more storage and the same RAM as the Pixel 6 128GB at £599 now. Screen is still nice and clean without a punch hole camera, design and feel great, still relatively snappy. I used to have Pixel and Nexus devices and this was my first Oneplus. I don't think I'll buy another one. My next phone is likely to be next year's Pixel range, but I can't justify it this year as this is the first device I've wanted to keep for a third year without wincing. I truly believe the 7 Pro and 7T Pro were the last great Oneplus phones, with the 8 and 8 Pro ranges being great phones albeit with some compromises and prices that started creeping up. I have, however, ordered a Pixel 6 for my wife as her PIxel 3 is slowly struggling. She wanted the Pixel 5 but it wasn't available for less than the price of the Pixel 6 in the UK and I opted to go for the latest device. She isn't keen on the size being quite a small lass, and wanted the 5 for the form factor, but I'm sure she'll get used to it and will love the new features like Magic Eraser. I agree some of those other points you touches on deserve some insight.
@@TheChiraagG trust me I agree. I didn't switch to any other phone after I bought the OP 7 Pro, because this device is complete. However, my battery is starting to fade and ColorOS will mess up the experience. I am pissed at Oneplus, they have changed so much, even the updates are slower. I liked Oneplus mainly for the stock experience and the smooth ui. But now pretty much any device is fast and reliable, not all of them have stock android though.
Thank you so much for pointing out that the quality of the main sensor isn't how camera systems compete nowadays, it's much more about the really challenging situations like night mode, zoom, the most extreme cases.
Great video! Just a small suggestion in the editing (I'm no professional but I think this could help), I struggle with sudden bright lights and strobing effects myself along with many other people across the world, I would suggest you don't use the effect when switching between images among the phone cuz it caused me a lot off issues with watching the video myself (again, it could be a me problem), it's just a small ease of life step one can take to make their videos more accessible to the people across the world! Love your videos Dave, they're extremely informative n entertaining at the same time!!!
I never expected the pixel to blow me away with next generation photography, it's just on par with other flagships (and the pixel 5 was very good) I am just happy with the pricing and that it's an actual flagship not a mid range device. Honestly i only care about the wide lens i don't care about all the other lenses (Ultra wide maybe useful sometimes) Also the design is growing on me faster than i was expecting i went from hating it to actually loving it. Well done Google, phones like OnePlus have no reason to exist anymore they're expensive and HUGE and have only gimmicky features instead of what's actually useful
Totally with you on this. 100% And the fact that no TH-camr, absolutely no one is addressing what Google is delivering at this price point is a shame and goes on to show the bias of creators towards companies like Samsung and OnePlus which take exorbitant amounts and yet deliver a plastic body/back phone with a medicore camera system. This is what a flagship should be.
Damn, Dave never recommends a hyped up device! I gotta agree that price tag for the 6 is SO good! I ended up placing an order for the pro. Although the $300 price difference doesn't quite seem worth it.
I wish you talked more about the performance of the phone. I wanted to see how the tensor chips performed with respect to Samsung's exynos and Apple's H series chips
well, the expectation came together with what Google said in their presentation regarding the video. but considering it's the first product with their own SoC and that this by itself probably required some resource and time, maybe... maybe the next one will be less rough around the edges. but it's certainly disappointing some of the misses.
Funny how all these reviews of phone cameras are coming to different conclusions. I think it shows that for most situations, the differences have become minor and are more based on subjective opinion.
I mean, Dave shows multiple direct photo & video comparisons within the review. I'm more inclined to say that it's less about subjective opinion and more about not upsetting the tech companies that hand out these products to some of these TH-camrs. Not talking about Dave - he's dope.
Always the same great straight to the point review. I do want to say that there may be minuscule differences compared to last gen but all can be improved in terms of software, which has been the strong points for Pixels. It’ll probably just get better over time with more updates and support from Google.
While I know Dave's reviews are to the point no nonsense stuff, I think he should have covered android 12 experience on pixel 6 as well. Pure pixel android is a big part of the pixel experience
he did videos on sleek and cleaned up os desktops in the past and shows of the discombobulated mess his material me homescreen ended up being. quite a revealing hint I'd say ;)
I was looking at another OnePlus, until I saw the 6. I have a feeling that this phone will get revisited in 3 months after a couple of software updates for the camera to see how much it will improve performance. My question is can they keep this price point? If so, OnePlus has to rethink its place in the market, or they will become the new LG.
Please dont compare OnePlus with lg! Lg was a risk taker, an innovator and a pioneer. OnePlus is following the shoes in bbk electronics Store rebranding oppo devices with some minor tweaks at a competitive price. That's what it has done, but the bridge has been closed now! Can see now the true colours of it!!
@@abiola82 Ditched oneplus for Pixel 6 after many years. The oneplus 5 was good, and served me well, but OnePlus doesn't really have anything that can compete with this right now. The base Pixel 6 is just a better value for that general range, although them being sold more broadly may help, but I think they've pretty much lost that chunk of their fanbase by this point
@@justrandomdm LG was a great company that kept trying to compete with Samsung and Apple but couldn't. Instead of moving towards the midrange market where they could have dominated, they stayed in the same lane and it killed them in the end. OnePlus was in that midrange lane, but now wants to compete with Samsung and Apple. But most of their phones still don't even offer wireless charging. With the Pixel 6, Google just out OnePlused OnePlus by offering a flagship killer phone and price point. This is not the economy for them to try and go to a higher weight class. If they aren't careful, they'll die off like LG did.
Appreciated the down-to-earth perspective. I can see why upgrading from a Pixel 5 wouldn't be a very strong value prop but for customers upgrading from a Pixel 2 XL it's going to be a nice upgrade. Still, you made some very good points and it's surprising that the new hardware didn't bring noticeable improvements for you.
I'm upgrading to a standard 6 from a Pixel 3, and I still struggled on whether to upgrade or not when I've been buying mint used Pixel 3's for a mere $150 and it's 'still' such a phenomenal phone. What got me to finally order is that TMO gave me $300 for my Pixel 2 backup phone that was sitting in a drawer with terrible battery life (but otherwise perfectly working). Pixel 6 for $300?? I'm in.
Actually you should upgrade for five to the 6. Remember phones are a lot more than their cameras we just tend to put too much emphasis on that. The 6 actually offers a lot. Nice cameras are fun but how's that helpful? Watch a few more reviews you'll see. I already have mine and I promise you it's worth it
6/10 minutes of this review is purely about photos. Truth be told, im gna say most people who buy pixels dont care about photos. We buy pixels cause its from google for the price-point to hardware cost ratio and the instant updates. Could you do a review on that instead please.
The funny part is that I am always laughing at myself when I ask random people and sending them Pictures from my iPhone 12 and pixel 5 98% of the time people have no idea from which phone i took it and they gave 100% like on my pics of the pixel 5
So for me, I've had the OG XL, 2XL, 3XL, 4XL. Skipped the 5 and used the 4XL rather than the yearly upgrade. Recently switched to a s21 ultra this past March. I miss, miss, miss the software of the pixel line. Call screening, hold, astrophotography.... I am okay with the fact that the pixel 6 may not be the "camera king". I just want something that is comparable to the others---hardware-wise (because in the past, no pixel truly had the hardware to match its software). I am READY to ditch my s21. I hate oneUI, the bloatware, and I definitely don't want an iphone simply because I don't own any other apple products. So, to have a phone that no longer feels like a compromise in build quality, less RAM, etc, it really feels good to be able to get it. I don't expect the Pixel 6 or Pro to pull people away from Apple, but I can definitely see it drawing from places like Samsung, etc (which has premium flagship quality). That's why I preordered a 6 pro.
how can you bash the pixels video capabilities, but only show about 30 seconds of footage, half of which is of an aquarium? in every other comperison i've seen this far it held up relatively well. i'm not saying you're wrong, but why not elaborate rather that just throwing it out there with hardly any details?
Thanks for the honest review Dave, great job. I may wait until Christmas 🎄 time and see what kind of door buster deals Verizon is doing on them and just pick up the regular 6 with 256Gb of storage. I do have some concerns about how Google's homegrown chipset will perform 2-3 years down the line with it throttling out of the gate in the here and now.
I think camera systems on smartphones has reached to its limits and with current technology mobile companies has now very limited options to improve camera quality.
As a normal everyday user, to be frank, we need phones that just does the job. Answer calls, browse some media, watch youtube and videos like yours🤭 and sometimes when we go out, take a few pictures and I would like them to be good enough so that they don't loose clarity or the pixels feel grained out. And for what pixel 6 is bringing with that price, I would like to answer for all, it's a worthy *buy*. Hands down I agree with you, that price hits the bells for everyone. Like I definitely as a user wouldn't sit and compare it with 3 phones! Because I don't have 3 phones to compare. I'm upgrading from an old model, anything better than my previous model, is great! But thank you so much for this video. It answered a few questions in my head about cameras on the pixel 6. 👍
Most Chinese phones do just that. And the Samsung midrangers. The Chinese phones are not as easy to obtain and use in the US though. This video is about flagships though. They hyped it as better than the others, so they're gonna be compared just the same.
This review was too camera centric, Dave. Should have talked about things like software (Android 12), differences between the regular and Pro model etc...
It's like generally software talks won't matter much as you get the best software and everyone is been talking about it!. And. The differences also , we have been watching difference videos between 6 and the 6 pro for an entire week 😂 so, I'm fine with videos just about the processor and the camera!
To me google has started to rely too heavily on their software prowess and have significantly neglected the kuch required focus on maximising their hardware potential. Therefore the anomaly of similar to last year performance is found even with such a big hardware leap.
Great review! You seemed to focus (get it, focus?) on the camera functions quite a bit. What about other things, like the hardware and the software, Android 12?
@@gerhardvaneeden5615 It’s possible, but a week ago I saw other reviews where they said they weren’t able to comment on those things and the photos/camera. But he is commenting and comparing photos so much, I assumed that since he was doing that, he should also be able to show the other things. Maybe I’m wrong, but who knows.
@@Andrewkc1969 Yeah, I was also surprised to see only a partial review. The way I'm reading it is that Google has allowed only camera reviews for now. But like you say, who knows!
I wish Google chose a lower megapixel large sensor. It's definitely using pixel binning. But at that point why bother with the high megapixel count? Larger pixels gather more light, it's just physics. The increased light gathering ability of the larger sensor is basically nullified by having tiny pixels 🤷♂️
You should have the option to take a 50MP shot if you have enough light, but Google didn't give us the option. It's also mostly marketing, but pixel binning gets the job done
It’s probably a strategic thing, they’ll unlock around 50% of its potential, then use same 50mp camera in pixel 7 & 8 and unlock 75%, 100% respectively
Great review. The regular P6 further illustrates that the Pro is not worth the extra $300 and also that most other Android mid/high end phones are about to get major price reductions. I'd hate to be OnePlus right now.
That $600 Pixel is gonna make waves
indeed
Too big for my taste. Hoping for 6a, but gonna run my S10e until it dies.
It sure will, great phone!!
Dave make a kamehameha opening animation
Sheeesh. 6 min and the comments are already a shitshow
100% with you on the camera system - fun to use, strong photos, but surprisingly similar to last year's phones given the enormous theoretical leap in hardware. Goes to show how much of smartphone photography nowadays is based on computing
Yeah the video camera doesn't seem that good but they have the price going for it. Too bad though cause i take lots of videos so I'll give this a pass
Hey Mrwhosetheboss 👋
They might fix it thr' software update
The camera is a let down for sure
Hey Mrwhosetheboss 👋
These are no longer phones with cameras. They are cameras with a phone. Amazing how the BIG camera companies never saw this coming.
Photographers will still buy real cameras
@@willziak Yeah, just like how artists never shifted to an iPad. Oh, wait...
They don’t care, nobody (professional) shots events with a camera phone. When that day comes they’ll take notice.
@@salmanbehen4384 really….you think that’s an artist preferred method?
@@vkh2k6 I'd like to remind you that nearly all art you interact with on a day to day basis these days was created on a computer in one way or another. Physical "real world" art is almost exclusively reserved for fine arts and "crafts" which is a dwindling practice to say the least. Not that its not all great, just think you might be a little confused.
"I don't have the instrument to measure the nits on a phone… but BASED ON MY EYES, it's 10-15% brighter…"
- when Dave has reviewed so much tech that his eyes becomes digital.
Petition to use dave as a measure of brightness. This pixel has 600 daves of brightness. 🤣
😂😂😂
Hey he was using the previous version of the pixel. He can feel the difference.
He was having both phones side by side. Seems like most people can do it?
there are apps for that
In Europe, preorders are bundled with Bose 700 headphones which are way over 300$. That makes both phones a real bargain!
With such bundle, I had no problem to push the order button for the 6 Pro.
which country?
Unreal !!
If only they had plans to launch in India 😓
That's basically 100% marketing. The Bose headphones 700 were released over 2 years ago. You can get them now for about £100. Not a terrible preorder bonus, but not as good as it seems
@@asifrahmanankan5739 Germany for example...
You can easily get them for under 300 but i get what you mean.
My guy wanted to erase a whole bus😂😂
Thanos vibes🙃
Thank you so much for cooling me off a little. After all this hype from ... everywhere, one does need a more balanced and true-to-life a review. Much appreciated!
Review? Strong word. He talked about something which people use for less than 5% of the time they use their phone for most of the video. He never even mentioned one of the biggest selling points behind the Pixel, which is the software experience.
@@johnappleseed2635 i am a Pixel User (4a 5g) and I just gotta say it... Android 12 is worse than Android 11. They sacrificed efficient design for what feels like a kindergarden playground. A Lot of stuff requieres more time/ touches. When I go out, I usually turn off WiFi and turn on Mobile. Easy as hell on 11, pretty much 2 clicks. On 12 I have to open Internet and that opens an oversized list, then I have to toggle my stuff on and off. It's both, uglier and slower. And that is just one example... They fucked up a lot of stuff, just to make people feel like they experience Something new, instead of actually improving upon what was fantastic already.
@@ryudjn6590 That's all fine, whether you like Android 12 or not. This is the most important aspect of the phone and it was not discussed!! That's what's annoying me.
@@ryudjn6590 Android 10 was peak Android imo. Quick settings had 9 elements instead of 6. Android 12 sucks so much though, idk why they had to make everything so big and combine wifi/data into one quick setting
@@ryudjn6590 they simplified the internet toggle specifically for your use case. Most of us use the wifi toggle to turn it off so mobile data is used instead. They've already explained that it will be coming in a feature drop
They shouldve released it in teal, wouldve gotten a perfect review.
Sorta Seafoam is pretty close.
@@ehsan_kia lol
probably lol
@@ehsan_kia but... close isn't good enough 😄
@@Dave2D ok
Thanks a lot Dave for being yourself. It's so easy to go through your reviews without getting the feeling that you're watching a review from a fan boy. I love them!
@senni bgon 12 days ago?🤔hmm
Finally someone giving a realistic, real use case review.
I see so many reviews comparing the pro to the iphone 13 pro max.
But considering that other than the zoom, the camera experience is going to be basically the same, the 600 dollar pixel 6 is an absolute steal for the price.
See that's the proper interpretation and expectation. We were promised the moon again.
@@MandoMTL I've heard it takes terrible pictures of the moon too
Even the 6 pro is a steal compared to the 13 pro max
But why, WHY, did Google have to butcher the looks of the Pixel 6 (non-pro) ? That bezel is looking so outdated already, and the overall design does not look premium at all compared to the Pixel 6 Pro and Samsung's flagship offerings. I get that the price is reflected in this, but still...
@@CHRoOMAX bruh you gotta hold things somewhere, and most people have their phones in a case, so bezel isnt that big of a deal
2 videos in 1 day? Thanks dave!
@UCiO7dCIjU6bHya3y8IlNalg begon bot*
His choice of words, less bs and more personal knowledge about the phone are among the things that kept me watching his videos. Two thumbs up for this! 😁😁
The new Pixels indeed shine a light on how misguided OnePlus is these days.
Lol who cares about OnePlus anymore. With ColorOS they are just another Oppo
@@loadgamepl just because they're sharing colour OS makes them automatically worse now? Doesn't it really matter that much?
@@Cman775 Yes. They’re more expensive than the Oppos and Xiaomis. The only thing you were paying more for was a good software experience. If it’s just as lackluster as in the rest of chinese counterparts, why would you waste money?
@@loadgamepl Xiomi mi 11 ultra is way more expensive than oneplus
@@YuhNinja you will talk about mi11 ultra only?? why dont u talk about other models??
Straight, to the point, No BS honest review. Cheers for always keeping it real my G, Dave2D!!
Yeah and I loved what he said about the OnePlus. That company can literally shut down at this point.
Loved your critical analysis especially of the camera. A key part of a reviewer's job is to separate the truth from the hype, and this is exactly what I was looking for. While the Pixel 6 series is still very attractive, Google's hype had really built up like crazy over the last few months.
The one thing that is really missing here is Googles reliance on their software for image processing, that's what made them so good for so long. It seems like they upgraded the cameras but the images all look similar to last year because it's all under the same settings as last year. The Pixel 6 could go from great to THE camera with future software updates...It's just up to google now.
@@supermotosavage3916 That's true. Especially the "same settings" bit.
A good thing for me is... I didn't go for the Pixel 5 last year because it was harder to get the Green in Sweden (at a decent price and locally). This year, I can travel to get the 6. So... I don't mind as much.
Now that being said, I secretly hope they fix some of the issues I've seen in reviews left and right because it's mostly software, BUT and that's a gigantic BUT... I'd advise against counting on update to fix anything for such devices. I'm fine with what's on offer and the trade-offs. And if not, that'd be a no-go TODAY and until proven otherwise. Too many people get burned *assuming* THE update is coming. ;)
Dave just explained perfectly everything about how bad people see OnePlus now...
6:20
I have a Oneplus 8 5G and hate the camera quality and phone is laggy between apps, etc. Only after 1 year of use. Im debating on switching and getting the Pixel 6 Pro. Would you make this choice?
@@Marcofrommiami no because I'm trying to keep my phone as long as I can for economic and ecologic purpose
@@bylambda yessss!
Which sucks because the OnePlus 7 Pro was the best phone of its year for me. It was the best looking, it went brave with the pop-up camera, the 90hz and all. There was no contest, even by today's standards it's an amazing phone. Then they released garbage, brought back the holepunch shit and increased the price for no reason. Too bad.
I made the jump to OnePlus for the 7 Pro....i was so disappointed that i got the last OnePlus phone that was worth buying.
I feel like we’ve reached peak smartphone camera when it comes to photos. Only if you really pixel peep are going to notice improvements. So nobody should be expecting a smartphone camera to be significantly better year to year.
Yeah, we're kind of at the point where phones are already really good at doing what most people use them for... that's why everyone is pushing funky colors, alt designs like folds, moar battery, and subjective design choices like refresh rate which is nice but not $400 difference for a new phone nice.
Phone makers are getting to the same point where lightbulbs ended up... lasting too long, being too good. They got together and agreed to purposely make lightbulbs worse... profits skyrocketed. Illegal now of course, but it's only a matter of time before phone manufacturers start getting desperate with ways to push minimal advances.
That's why phone reviews are boring. Everyone expects DSLR quality from a freakin plastic phone. It's never gonna happen.
I want to see an actual review on the device, system, OS and display.
@@TexasTimelapse right! It’s nice to hear about what the camera does, but really the device is more than just a camera.
@@CrystallineLore I feel like this is a bigger issue on the Android side than the Apple side, given that Apple supports their phones for several years (full OS update support too, not just security updates). Android device makers, Google especially, really needs to figure out a way to double their support window, especially with phones that have those premium $1000+ price tags.
smart phone cameras take awful low light photos. This is not peak in any way.
We kinda need a 2nd camera review in like half a year or so to see how much has changed through updates
Potential updates are the main reason I'm gonna get a Pro instead of a regular... I'm hoping the specs get utilized as time goes on
Finally, the review we've all been looking for. I love Dave's videos because you know that it's going to be no-bullshit, and it'll be as close to a real life performance review, as can be. Everyone else tends to focus on the marketing material exclusively, and completely forget to cover the important stuff
whoa easy there with the buttering dude, there are some other good reviewers too.
"everyone else is crap!" your pandering for likes is a bit obvious
Well actually the reason why all the others were able to only talk about the marketing is because to get the review copy of the phone and review it, they had to follow a set of rules by the manufacturer, Google. So Google said you're able to talk about marketing here and on this certain date you can make a full review.
@@fjsioewiox true, this guy must only watch the extremely popular and poorly made content. Its like the world only exists in this linus tech tips like bubble
He's not the only good tech reviewer. Secondly, this video was 85% on the camera and the rest what's different between the 2 and how prices differ... There is so much more to the pixel experience than that.
No. This is not a review. This is a camera analysis. He barely mentioned anything useful with regards to every other aspect of the phone that are more important since we aren't on the camera app all day.
“Expectations are the thief of joy”
Asli ID se aan @MKBHD
Its "comparison is the thief of joy"
@@ayushrawat3431 why not both?
@@cheekybananaboy3361 both is better
th-cam.com/video/NVxmkBm8rHs/w-d-xo.html
@@ayushrawat3431 I mean that is how MKBHD says it 🤔
I would love the regular 6 over the pro. I think the price point of the regular pixel 6 is amazing for the quality of the phone + camera + android experience we get (still I would love a music player app for offline content by Google out of the box … TH-cam player thing isn’t that good ). I think the regular pixel 6 would really do well in sales too.
Haha camera is balls, never thought I would hear that from Dave.
The weird intros he has doesn't compare to that
That’s not at all what he said numbnuts
The camera is as good as if not better than the iPhone 13 Pro.
@@efrenviramontes2430 he’s referring to Dave’s joke at the end, at 9:12
I was dying
This review really settled me into believing that my strategy of just swapping phones every 3rd year is doin pretty good. I get to really be 'Wowed' by the sudden snap forward with 3 generations of incremental improvement, instead of just bein kinda bummed that the new phone is pretty similar to what I already had.
I know that's not a possibility for you as a Tech Reviewer by trade, of course.
Yeah I upgraded after almost 5 years, and this is looking to be a good choice. Feels like I'm getting a large jump out of it
I got 2 phones both from 2017. Maybe I'll upgrade when 6g comes out or something
Same here, moving from a galaxy s9+ to a pixel 6 pro and its crazy how much the camera and software upgrades have changed
@@pathsgfx Maybe that works for obsessed photo people that look for every detail in photos instead of just taking a photo to have with their friends and family. But honestly my MI MAX 3 from 2018 still feel great infrond of current phones on similar price so I am not that impressed by 3 year old jump. I guess I can see a difference by trying to run only the most high demanding games but that is pretty much it.
I feel the same! Currently have the Pixel 3 and I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 pro to get back in stock so I can make that jump!
Great review and very fair. Regarding the photo quality, people need to decide, do they want brighter photos with more contrast or photos that look as close to real life as possible? I think Pixels are excellent at doing the latter, which is personally ideal. You could always throw it into an editing app.
@Kevin I agree.The Pixel 6 photos look more true to life, and it's Super Saf also mentioned in his camera comparison between the iPhone 13 Pro Max and the Pixel 6 Pro.
Great video, as expected from Dave! Would have loved more coverage of other ML-based features Google is offering with the Pixel though. I see most reviews not even cover features like improved speech-to-text, translation, call hold/spam call features, which, I think, bring a significant quality-of-life improvement for the user. I still can't use STT reliably for typing on my Samsung S20 (maybe because of my slight accent), so I'd be a lot more interested in such features than a marginally better photo that I can only judge by putting it next to something better. I'm glad to see Pixel make progress in those areas!
Check MKBHD's review.
@@tamalsaha4409 Just did, he did a better job IMO. Dave could've made this a "Pixel 6/Pro Cam" kind of video, but this video is titled "review" and I find it lacking in that scope.
For some reason big TH-camrs operate under the idea that smartphones are cameras with a phone attached instead of small computers that have many features. Notice how little they bother with the very useful IR blaster on Xiaomi phones or about the phone having SD Card, wifi signal quality and GPS quality and many other features that each manufacturer puts.
They barely make a casual mention while wasting multiple videos comparing cameras. I think this opsession may also be a reason many manufacturers are so focused on camera features as well.
I clean my room and desk after watching your videos. So crisp and clean.
... I'm still not bothered lol
Dave's voice is so soothing
when I'm tired I'll legit close my eyes and just listen to the video while "half sleeping"
Wth! I thought I am the only one who does that😳.
Did you even pay attention to anything being said in this video? LOL
How easily distracted some people are.
@@rick_terscale1111 I did, pixel 6 pro looks awesome and while the new camera set up is cool it proves most photos advanced are going to come from software instead of hardware
neat stuff i was just tired and treated it like a podcast
I love when channels I subscribe to for any number of things cross into the unintentional ASMR realm. 😌
As a tech enthusiast, I personally don't like the trend that reviewers are following where the camera dominates the review. I really couldn't care less how good the camera is. I care about EVERY other aspect of the phone infinitely more. I say this with the reality that the average camera quality in phones is sufficiently high. You spend 95% of the time on your phone NOT on the camera app. Why is more than half of this video talking about the camera.......
I actually agree with this 100%. Like I want to know the camera ins and outs but I do a lot more on my phone then just take photos.
You're right. But honestly this doesn't bother me very much because when it comes down to it, device offerings really don't distinguish themselves very much from each other. Experiences are overall similar.
The things that tell phones apart for me are weird, quirky, nitpicky things I can totally understand reviewers never getting to talking about or seemingly not noticing.
When google bases the marketing and branding of the pixel around their camera, it’s the thing I care about
I like the idea of keeping the same camera quality, adding better zoom capability, and a lot of new software features. I think the Apple idea of perfecting a feature before you move on, as opposed to bombarding us with new features that aren't quite perfected, is a good move.
For the people who are wondering what the outro song is. It is called 'Cherry Blossom' by Ottom. :)
5:45 it's frictionless, Kody Ko would be so proud
He was a pioneer in the tech game
I feel this is typical of Google. When they get into new hardware the launch is pretty anti climatic. But with time they make it up with the software. I feel a similar thing happened with the first Pixelbook. Was so buggy at launch, but with every Chrome Update things got smoothed out!
The AI needs to learn how to get most of the new hardware 👀
Google has botched every even numbered pixel model, other than the 4a 5g (which doesn't count). Looks like the 6 is no exception. I don't know if they have competing teams working on the models, or if they think people won't notice when they half ass a launch, but the 2, the 4, and now the 6 all suffer from flaws that are significant enough to affect sales but easily avoided. The pixel 2's dim screen. The pixel 4's parade of useless, AI driven party gags that destroyed battery life but didn't make the camera any better than the one in the pixel 3 (which I bought for $400 less rather than pay for the 4). Now with the 6, they opted for a cheap and proprietary chip design whose architecture is so notoriously low rent that Samsung phones sold with the Exynos processor are discounted in foreign markets compared to snapdragon models. I don't get it. Google already has the algorithms. It just needs a way to process them in real time like all of their competitors. But rather than give its software the hardware it deserves, it chooses a last gen, second rate chip that in the whole is barely any different than Samsung's reference design.
As with every other even numbered phone, Google will learn its lesson by the time the Pixel 7 is released, so that will be a good phone. It has to be, what with that odd number in its name. 👍
@@UnlessRoundIsFunny What i feel is maybe they keep trying to experiment with things like removing ultrawide previous for telephoto then putting it back again lol. They really should stick to tested formulas and be like the rest, keep improving and refining then keep to this price point and increasing it only if there is a major hardware addition. That's basically what every Chinese companies were doing until they accumulated enough money for hardware R&D. Even Vivo or was it Oppo is attempting to make it's own chip where Sony failed. Google is a bit late to the game so they just have to "copy" the rest for now. Their advantage is their software, just like iOS.
@@UnlessRoundIsFunny I like my 4a though. The size is perfect, photos are reasonably good. It also has a front stereo sorta speaker. It has been a great experience using it since couple of months... 😁
@@sprudhvi583 The 4a is a great value, and its cameras are still pretty good (as are the ones on the Pixel 3 I am typing this on). But the 4a isn't a flagship release. If people shy away from the 6 because the video camera sucks, then the Pixel 8 will be the next opportunity for Google to convince the world that even numbers aren't cursed. Maybe it should just go straight from the 7 to the 9 instead, which is probably safer.
I pulled the trigger and bought the Pixel 6.
I've gotta say, Dave is absolutely spot on about every point, especially the camera.
I expected more from the camera but it's still really good. For $599, it's a fantastic phone. Suffice to say this is the cheapest phone I've ever owned and it competes with $800 - $1k phones.
And to think, if this is the baseline with Tensor being their first custom built silicon, I truly can't wait to see what Google brings to the table with Tensors successors over the next couple of years!
I don't normally comment on videos all that much, but I just enjoy Dave's videos so much. The down-to-earth review that is honest, you can't go past it. Thanks man. Keep up the good work!
Try "macro photos" with the 4x lens, you will find something interesting :)
Really good review, Dave. Loving the background on this one too!
Secret about Dave2D, his heart is 3D- it’s what makes his reviews so amazing
sure but my heart is also 3D and my reviews are not amazing.
and guess what- yours is/are too
Thank you for being honest, details you provide are valuable, especially hepatic feedback and sounds quality comparison
Many thanks for the review! One of very few tech-yt, whom I really enjoy watching, and I can count on his observations, without too much hype. Thanks for staying true, my friend! Hope you will hit 10mio sooonish!
I love how phone reviews have pretty much become camera reviews :D. The thing with the camera stuff is that all you need to know is if its good. It doesn't really matter how the details compare because 99% of folks won't notice that stuff. The video I think is the big thing here and maybe a consideration? I wish more reviews just review the camera on its own first, before comparisons.
Also I feel like iphone camera reviews are grossly overrated. Sure, five years ago Android cameras were on average much worse than Apple's. But honestly, I feel like most big brand phones nowadays are roughly on par with cameras, especially considering the needs of the average person. I'm rocking a 4A and tbh it's my favorite phone I've had so far.
Strongly considered upgrading to the Pixel 6 Pro from my Galaxy Note 10+, but as someone who doesn't take a whole lot of photos, I don't see much reason to do so. This Note 10 is still the best phone I've ever used, and 2 years later it still rivals new flagships
I had pre-ordered the Cloudy White and desperately waiting for a review. Thank you.
Great, nuanced review as always. A little disappointed you didn't dig more into the new tensor sensor etc!
I can't stress enough how underrated this channel is. There should have been 30 million subs by now.
I am a simple man. I love stock vanilla android, I love cameras. I love not spending more $700 on a phone. I love the Pixel 6.
"I love stock vanilla Android"
Pixel 6 DOESN'T run stock Android. 😂😂😂
2 major reviews back to back. Dave you're killin it
Review nowadays : Camera quality directly proportional to how great the phone is.
Was waiting on this ! Thank you for the honest reviews as always
Really excited to get my pro model in the mail. I do expect software updates to make some difference on the photography side of things, especially because the hardware is very good. That said I'm very pleased with the overall quality of the phone and features and that price tag!!!! The only disappointment for me personally was a lack of macro photography. Every other flagship phone has it. That's really a nitpick though when everything else is factored in
Here's a cheat I've been using on my Note 20 Ultra: you can easily take decently good macro shots by taking the telephoto as close to the object as you can
@@antikovt I'll have to give it a shot. I'm coming from a OnePlus 7 pro, and do consider myself a hobby photographer, so phone wise this will be a huge leap
@@8bittim I am still using a OnePlus 7 Pro. what would you say the most pleasant differences between the two?
@@kroove haven't received my pixel yet but it's shipped so I'll let you know
you're supposed to use telephoto, as truly intended
8:20 you can use any of your phone for measuring brightness. All smartphones have a light measuring sensor for auto adjusting brightness
Always a fact based and hubris free assessment - making this easily my favorite review and reviewer. Thanks !
Real question is how good will it be after six months considering a pixel always does major camera updates to improve the camera during that time span.
Happy that these days Dave is doing videos at a pet store 😂
Dave, great video to talk about the camera hype everyone has been waiting for as a camera King.
Can you do another video to focus on user experience this Pixel has compare to other high end phones? Without dwelling too much into photography?
I am trying to justify if i should change my OnePlus 7T and trade it for Pixel 6 or the pro version ($300 more is kind of expensive).
This speech to text is awesome!
Really wish there was a true 50/48mp mode, my phone's got basically the same hardware and with a gcam port shooting 48mp raw sharpness is insane!
I felt a a huge difference between 120hz and 90hz between 4XL and 6 Pro. I guess not everyone distinguishes frames as easily.
Thank you so much for covering the video aspect of the phone. Most reviewers have been skipping it and that's the only thing I give a crap about. So glad I subscribed to you.
With Marques review not coming up today I was waiting for this one!
Dave >>> MKBHD
No I always watch Dave before Markass
1:02 dude, photos in blasting sunlight from my GALAXY S4 look absolutely fantastic and still hold up side by side to a modern phone today. Performance in ideal lighting stopped mattering a long time ago.
I don’t think it’s going to change any apple users but it’s going to do very well in the android market due to the value you get for the price. Still, it feels like a transition phone and the next phone Google brings is going to be the beast.
I mean, if you're an apple fan because of the ecosystem, then sure. But if you just own an apple phone and are not using apple for their multi-device ecosystem, jumping into this pixel might actually be a great transition to android.
@@GuyLogen I know it's anecdotal, but most iPhone users I know wouldn't even consider an Android. As far as they are concerned the iPhone is the only phone that exists. They don't know anything about Android, they assume new iPhone features are actually new and haven't been Android phones for years. They assume Android phones are cheap and garbage and basically for poor people. That might seem excessive but it's pretty much true in my experience.
@@spizzlo where do u live man?
@@nadif Michigan, US
@@spizzlo That is true that is what they think.
Why are all the reviews just about the cameras, what about performance? Screen colour? Other things that are important to people like me who love watching media, all types of media, I would love a detailed review of everything about the 6 pro
Exactly. It's a phone first. How is the phone quality??
@@metalmaniacx79 Aside from pretty middling camera and slightly waning battery I'm still happy with my Oneplus 7T Pro. Cost me £699 a coupla years back and has more storage and the same RAM as the Pixel 6 128GB at £599 now. Screen is still nice and clean without a punch hole camera, design and feel great, still relatively snappy. I used to have Pixel and Nexus devices and this was my first Oneplus. I don't think I'll buy another one. My next phone is likely to be next year's Pixel range, but I can't justify it this year as this is the first device I've wanted to keep for a third year without wincing. I truly believe the 7 Pro and 7T Pro were the last great Oneplus phones, with the 8 and 8 Pro ranges being great phones albeit with some compromises and prices that started creeping up. I have, however, ordered a Pixel 6 for my wife as her PIxel 3 is slowly struggling. She wanted the Pixel 5 but it wasn't available for less than the price of the Pixel 6 in the UK and I opted to go for the latest device. She isn't keen on the size being quite a small lass, and wanted the 5 for the form factor, but I'm sure she'll get used to it and will love the new features like Magic Eraser. I agree some of those other points you touches on deserve some insight.
@@TheChiraagG trust me I agree. I didn't switch to any other phone after I bought the OP 7 Pro, because this device is complete. However, my battery is starting to fade and ColorOS will mess up the experience. I am pissed at Oneplus, they have changed so much, even the updates are slower. I liked Oneplus mainly for the stock experience and the smooth ui. But now pretty much any device is fast and reliable, not all of them have stock android though.
@Alabama Boi I think it is preference, the way it looks, the frequency of updates, and in the case of the Pixel exclusive features.
If I want a camera I'll go buy a camera.
Thank you so much for pointing out that the quality of the main sensor isn't how camera systems compete nowadays, it's much more about the really challenging situations like night mode, zoom, the most extreme cases.
Thank you Dave for the the honest review. Unlike some other reviewers, you don't post a long boring video. Always on the point, short and clean.
Nice review, focused on the things I missed with other reviews (like the quality of the normal P 6 selfie cam).
What do you mean? Every phone reviewer focuses on just cameras like they are supposed to be a DSLR. I want to see a review of the actual phone!!
Always appreciate an honest opinion, cheers, good job!
Great video! Just a small suggestion in the editing (I'm no professional but I think this could help), I struggle with sudden bright lights and strobing effects myself along with many other people across the world, I would suggest you don't use the effect when switching between images among the phone cuz it caused me a lot off issues with watching the video myself (again, it could be a me problem), it's just a small ease of life step one can take to make their videos more accessible to the people across the world! Love your videos Dave, they're extremely informative n entertaining at the same time!!!
I never expected the pixel to blow me away with next generation photography, it's just on par with other flagships (and the pixel 5 was very good)
I am just happy with the pricing and that it's an actual flagship not a mid range device.
Honestly i only care about the wide lens i don't care about all the other lenses (Ultra wide maybe useful sometimes)
Also the design is growing on me faster than i was expecting i went from hating it to actually loving it.
Well done Google, phones like OnePlus have no reason to exist anymore they're expensive and HUGE and have only gimmicky features instead of what's actually useful
Totally with you on this. 100%
And the fact that no TH-camr, absolutely no one is addressing what Google is delivering at this price point is a shame and goes on to show the bias of creators towards companies like Samsung and OnePlus which take exorbitant amounts and yet deliver a plastic body/back phone with a medicore camera system.
This is what a flagship should be.
Idk, I miss when pixel led the camera wars. Now from what I've seen, it's just near the top, not the best.
Tbh i never use ultrawide, and I have a very good one, and I stick to the zoom lens for 99% of the shots
Nah, video shooting quality seems mid-range and sub-par, which matters to many folks dropping over $600 on a phone.
I still feel pixel 6 is little too big. If it's pixel 5 size it should be perfect.
Damn, Dave never recommends a hyped up device!
I gotta agree that price tag for the 6 is SO good! I ended up placing an order for the pro. Although the $300 price difference doesn't quite seem worth it.
Cancel it
Go for the Pixel 6
@@scienceByV why
@@tensing89 i have the pro and its defenitely worth it. except from the fact that its the black one, and normal phone has seafoam colour :(
I'm seeing mixed reviews on the cameras some say it's great other say it's okay to mediocre. I think a firmware update will improve things.
This is why I love your reviews. You aren't trying to sell it to me like everybody else does, you're just being honest. Mad respect.
Watching a Dave2D review is like having a tech talk with your friend. No annoying interludes and animations in between
I wish you talked more about the performance of the phone. I wanted to see how the tensor chips performed with respect to Samsung's exynos and Apple's H series chips
Shhh don't tell anyone but it's just a modified samsung Exynos chip, nevertheless a great chip.
I was waiting for this video all day. Thanks from Toronto, Dave!
👋
well, the expectation came together with what Google said in their presentation regarding the video. but considering it's the first product with their own SoC and that this by itself probably required some resource and time, maybe... maybe the next one will be less rough around the edges. but it's certainly disappointing some of the misses.
Funny how all these reviews of phone cameras are coming to different conclusions. I think it shows that for most situations, the differences have become minor and are more based on subjective opinion.
I mean, Dave shows multiple direct photo & video comparisons within the review. I'm more inclined to say that it's less about subjective opinion and more about not upsetting the tech companies that hand out these products to some of these TH-camrs. Not talking about Dave - he's dope.
Lol I assume the embargo was lifted at 12 PM Eastern standard Time today. Because right at that time my notifications lit up with pixel reviews lol
it was 9 AM Pacific if I'm not wrong.
@@ddc171 yes exactly lol
Kind of weird not seeing MKBHD’s full video while every other tech TH-camr I watch uploaded as soon as they could.
Always the same great straight to the point review. I do want to say that there may be minuscule differences compared to last gen but all can be improved in terms of software, which has been the strong points for Pixels. It’ll probably just get better over time with more updates and support from Google.
While I know Dave's reviews are to the point no nonsense stuff, I think he should have covered android 12 experience on pixel 6 as well. Pure pixel android is a big part of the pixel experience
True. I believe the Android 12 experience on the pixels is phenomenal.
He has too much bias in his reviews this year.
he did videos on sleek and cleaned up os desktops in the past and shows of the discombobulated mess his material me homescreen ended up being. quite a revealing hint I'd say ;)
He's bias he likes apple it's obvious he went to the first nit pick it wasn't even a review it was a comparison to other phones
Your objectivity is why I am a fan of your channel Dave.
Dave pulled out the Cody ko frictionless. love it
I was looking at another OnePlus, until I saw the 6. I have a feeling that this phone will get revisited in 3 months after a couple of software updates for the camera to see how much it will improve performance. My question is can they keep this price point? If so, OnePlus has to rethink its place in the market, or they will become the new LG.
I'm in a similar boat, been with OnePlus for almost 4 years now but it doesnt appeal to me anymore, pixel 6 is likely to be my next phone
Please dont compare OnePlus with lg! Lg was a risk taker, an innovator and a pioneer. OnePlus is following the shoes in bbk electronics Store rebranding oppo devices with some minor tweaks at a competitive price. That's what it has done, but the bridge has been closed now! Can see now the true colours of it!!
@@justrandomdm you are right
@@abiola82 Ditched oneplus for Pixel 6 after many years. The oneplus 5 was good, and served me well, but OnePlus doesn't really have anything that can compete with this right now. The base Pixel 6 is just a better value for that general range, although them being sold more broadly may help, but I think they've pretty much lost that chunk of their fanbase by this point
@@justrandomdm LG was a great company that kept trying to compete with Samsung and Apple but couldn't. Instead of moving towards the midrange market where they could have dominated, they stayed in the same lane and it killed them in the end. OnePlus was in that midrange lane, but now wants to compete with Samsung and Apple. But most of their phones still don't even offer wireless charging. With the Pixel 6, Google just out OnePlused OnePlus by offering a flagship killer phone and price point. This is not the economy for them to try and go to a higher weight class. If they aren't careful, they'll die off like LG did.
"Just based on looking at those displays, I'd say the Pixel 6 is 13.735% dimmer than the 6 Pro"
LOL
Appreciated the down-to-earth perspective. I can see why upgrading from a Pixel 5 wouldn't be a very strong value prop but for customers upgrading from a Pixel 2 XL it's going to be a nice upgrade. Still, you made some very good points and it's surprising that the new hardware didn't bring noticeable improvements for you.
I agree. I'm in a 4a (not 5g) and I'm King of trying to figure out whether it is worth it or not because I'm kind of in the middle of the road.
I'm upgrading to a standard 6 from a Pixel 3, and I still struggled on whether to upgrade or not when I've been buying mint used Pixel 3's for a mere $150 and it's 'still' such a phenomenal phone. What got me to finally order is that TMO gave me $300 for my Pixel 2 backup phone that was sitting in a drawer with terrible battery life (but otherwise perfectly working). Pixel 6 for $300?? I'm in.
Actually you should upgrade for five to the 6. Remember phones are a lot more than their cameras we just tend to put too much emphasis on that. The 6 actually offers a lot. Nice cameras are fun but how's that helpful? Watch a few more reviews you'll see. I already have mine and I promise you it's worth it
6/10 minutes of this review is purely about photos. Truth be told, im gna say most people who buy pixels dont care about photos. We buy pixels cause its from google for the price-point to hardware cost ratio and the instant updates. Could you do a review on that instead please.
The funny part is that I am always laughing at myself when I ask random people and sending them Pictures from my iPhone 12 and pixel 5 98% of the time people have no idea from which phone i took it and they gave 100% like on my pics of the pixel 5
Flagship phones generally have great performance anyways so camera is focused on more so ye
Am I the only one who feels the selfie camera noticeably elogates the face? Super review, as always, D!
So for me, I've had the OG XL, 2XL, 3XL, 4XL. Skipped the 5 and used the 4XL rather than the yearly upgrade. Recently switched to a s21 ultra this past March. I miss, miss, miss the software of the pixel line. Call screening, hold, astrophotography....
I am okay with the fact that the pixel 6 may not be the "camera king". I just want something that is comparable to the others---hardware-wise (because in the past, no pixel truly had the hardware to match its software). I am READY to ditch my s21. I hate oneUI, the bloatware, and I definitely don't want an iphone simply because I don't own any other apple products. So, to have a phone that no longer feels like a compromise in build quality, less RAM, etc, it really feels good to be able to get it. I don't expect the Pixel 6 or Pro to pull people away from Apple, but I can definitely see it drawing from places like Samsung, etc (which has premium flagship quality).
That's why I preordered a 6 pro.
Wanna order a PRO for me?
I never hear reviewers talk about the haptic motor in phones. Thank you for that! You sir are my hero.
how can you bash the pixels video capabilities, but only show about 30 seconds of footage, half of which is of an aquarium? in every other comperison i've seen this far it held up relatively well. i'm not saying you're wrong, but why not elaborate rather that just throwing it out there with hardly any details?
Thanks for the honest review Dave, great job.
I may wait until Christmas 🎄 time and see what kind of door buster deals Verizon is doing on them and just pick up the regular 6 with 256Gb of storage. I do have some concerns about how Google's homegrown chipset will perform 2-3 years down the line with it throttling out of the gate in the here and now.
I think camera systems on smartphones has reached to its limits and with current technology mobile companies has now very limited options to improve camera quality.
Dave can’t wait to see you review the AirPod 3
As a normal everyday user, to be frank, we need phones that just does the job. Answer calls, browse some media, watch youtube and videos like yours🤭 and sometimes when we go out, take a few pictures and I would like them to be good enough so that they don't loose clarity or the pixels feel grained out. And for what pixel 6 is bringing with that price, I would like to answer for all, it's a worthy *buy*. Hands down I agree with you, that price hits the bells for everyone. Like I definitely as a user wouldn't sit and compare it with 3 phones! Because I don't have 3 phones to compare. I'm upgrading from an old model, anything better than my previous model, is great! But thank you so much for this video. It answered a few questions in my head about cameras on the pixel 6. 👍
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Most Chinese phones do just that. And the Samsung midrangers. The Chinese phones are not as easy to obtain and use in the US though.
This video is about flagships though. They hyped it as better than the others, so they're gonna be compared just the same.
This review was too camera centric, Dave. Should have talked about things like software (Android 12), differences between the regular and Pro model etc...
Exactly! Every phone reviewer does this like it's supposed to compete with a DSLR.
It's like generally software talks won't matter much as you get the best software and everyone is been talking about it!.
And. The differences also
, we have been watching difference videos between 6 and the 6 pro for an entire week 😂 so, I'm fine with videos just about the processor and the camera!
To me google has started to rely too heavily on their software prowess and have significantly neglected the kuch required focus on maximising their hardware potential. Therefore the anomaly of similar to last year performance is found even with such a big hardware leap.
@senni bgon i do not have the phone and it wont come to my country either, so sorry.
@@YourLocalCafe quit talking shit then
Great review! You seemed to focus (get it, focus?) on the camera functions quite a bit. What about other things, like the hardware and the software, Android 12?
I believe reviewers aren't allowed to comment on those aspects yet.
@@gerhardvaneeden5615 It’s possible, but a week ago I saw other reviews where they said they weren’t able to comment on those things and the photos/camera. But he is commenting and comparing photos so much, I assumed that since he was doing that, he should also be able to show the other things. Maybe I’m wrong, but who knows.
@@Andrewkc1969 Yeah, I was also surprised to see only a partial review. The way I'm reading it is that Google has allowed only camera reviews for now. But like you say, who knows!
I wish Google chose a lower megapixel large sensor. It's definitely using pixel binning. But at that point why bother with the high megapixel count? Larger pixels gather more light, it's just physics. The increased light gathering ability of the larger sensor is basically nullified by having tiny pixels 🤷♂️
You should have the option to take a 50MP shot if you have enough light, but Google didn't give us the option. It's also mostly marketing, but pixel binning gets the job done
Might be a cost savings measure, computationally try to overcome lack of more expensive hardware feature.
It’s probably a strategic thing, they’ll unlock around 50% of its potential, then use same 50mp camera in pixel 7 & 8 and unlock 75%, 100% respectively
Great review. The regular P6 further illustrates that the Pro is not worth the extra $300 and also that most other Android mid/high end phones are about to get major price reductions. I'd hate to be OnePlus right now.
Rumor has it there is a camera update coming out on the 27th? Hopefully it pushes tensor to it's full potential and clears some issues:)
I was looking for this comment!! I want update videos with the update!
Oh, I'm sure. Google will keep updating the camera's software. I'm excited for the Pixel 6 Pro.
They just keep better with updates...