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The truth is Urdu is not the mother tongue of many muhajirs as well. Like it was imposed on us Sindhis, Punjabis etc. Similarly the real Mother tongue of many Muhajirs are Awadhi, Bhojpuri, Marwari, Haryanvi, Bihari etc but they are brainwashed to believe that Urdu is their mother tongue. So sad !!!
Yes
Just a correction, Bihari isn’t a language
Just a correction Hindu Urdu are artificially created language@@lordanubysh
@@lordanubyshtrue, the native languages of Bihar are Maithil, Bhojpuri and Magahi.
@Knightriderz786ارے ببوا کا بات کر رہے آپ -؟ عجب کہ رہے ہیں آپ -
کبھی ففٹی ففٹی ٹی وی پروگرام دیکھا ھے- اسماعیل تارا والا - عجب کہ رھے ھیں آپ -
Very funny, Jinha was using English to declare Urdu as national language of Pakistan. 😂😂😂
So ridiculous
Woh Anglophile thaa. He was practising in the UK when the Muslim royalty got him back to protect their own interests. He did it quite well, if you see the land holdings and power these nawabs and feudal lords still hold in that country.
And in India, National Anthem is in bengali despite the fact that hindi speakers were in majority
@@Shaabi009Indian national antheme is not in bengali. It was written by a Bengali poet.
@@Jafarkhan6ft4 Jana gana mana hindi words hyn?
Urdu is not even muhajir language we biharis have our own maithili, bhojpuri and magahi even the people of Gujarat, Madras, Rajhisthan has their own language but bcz elites were urdu speaking so they impose it end ended our roots you can haave roots from Lucknow but not from patna jodhpur or pune wow
Agree
Pakistan mr maithli, Bhojpuri, and magahi language ko status dia jaye. To urdu ke phook Nikal jaye ge.
@@usmankhakido you know maithili ??
o bhai bolte to urdu hi hogey.. mainey to north india me urdu chor koi aur langauge nhi sunaa ha. Bhojpuri to behad gawar type langauge lagti ha. Urdu se Bughz chor do
Urdu is more of an urban language, spoken in Patna and other cities if Bihar
"Urdu" developed near Meerut UP. Which has grammer of Hindi & vocabulary of Farsi.
Punjabi, Sindhi languages are older than Udru.
No you don't know
@@nomadbanda9562He is wrong about the language being developed in northern India, it may have originated in northern India but it developed in the deccan region. Apart from this point, he is mostly correct.
اردو ، پنجابی زبان سے نکلی ھے-
And French is older than English, your point being?
@@azizurrehman4643They are similar
Idk if anyone here has seen "The modern family". In it there is a Columbian immigrant namely Gloria. She says "Do you even know how smart I am in Spanish"
Even though it was meant to be funny and comical but that one line summarizes the entire language imposition habit of imperialists.
Its true how local language is considered "paindu" and "unethical" and the language of "lesser people".
I studied in Beaconhouse and when i was a kid, class monitors were given the duty of pushing us to speak in English. We werent allowed to speak in Urdu. Aaj social media ki wajah se punjabi par fine laga hai X""D
Yes!
I'm from Mansehra (KPK) and most people speak Hindko and Gojri language. It's painful to see my elders not teaching these rich languages to their children, causing rich geological, biological and medicinal vocabulary going extinct.
Now I've started to transcribe rare words in my diary to preserve them and I'm optimistic to think that my struggle will at least change the preception of my people that their languages are not backward and rustic languages but have a rich culture and history and knowledge.
As an Indian I don't think I should say anything in this. But I'd say I am happy to know that in my home state (Gujarat) there is an Institute where you can learn Tamil (Language of Tamilnadu)
Is there any such institute to learn Gujarati in Tamil Nadu also?
@@satyamindnectar7052I know there are a few in Vadavalli in Coimbatore, but I'm not sure about the whole state. ..
I am happy that Paxtan chose Urdu as their national language. It is a beautiful beautiful beautiful language.
even he would not refrain from flexing his URDU when given a chance but still he would keep on demonizing the nationalization of urdu.
The exoticisation of Urdu has cost us our regional languages to the extent that Punjabis are ashamed of speaking their mother tongue and look upon it as crude and inferior
Urdu is an Indian language. Non native to Pakistan.
@@mariamteePunjabis gain the most political power by speaking Urdu
@@mariamtee sometimes you have to lose something along the journey for better opportunities, i dont support the punjabi parents who demonized their own language and didnt teach punjabi to their children but you cant blame them much as they were thinking about their children's future and the opportunities and chances they would get if they get get hold of urdu/hindi instead of punjabi. and now u can see, the provinces who started late are behind punjab because they were the first to adapt urdu.
As a sindhi i appreciate your sir your video Thank you for making sach a amazing video
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Why are sindhis so jealous of urdu language. I don't understand this . As a saraiki speaking I don't have any issue .bcz I know there should be a national language for all to communicate it doesn't effect our local languages.
So u understand Urdu 😂
@aamirpathan2711 I thought the same 🙃 all the people commenting understand urdu very well .in logo ny hr cheeze mn keerey zrur nikalny hoty !!!
@@marinafazal8565 Can you quote any particular instance where Sindhis showed jealousy for Urdu?
As far as I know, there's rivalry for administrative & social opportunities between Sindhi & Muhajir groups in some areas of Sindh. But where comes the jealousy part?
Mein baloch hun lakin Alhamdullillah mujhy urdu,,balochi,,sindhi,,punjabi or english bolna or samjhna ati ha baqi pashto pe bhe kam chal raha ha😍
appreciate
Urdu is an Indian language & is native to western Uttar Pradesh & Awadh in India.
It’s native to Delhi as it comes from Kauravi and Braj with sprinklings of Awadhi and Haryani as its base.
@@Abdullah-uv9nk Brother, the base is through Khari Boli & maybe Kaurvi too (but again Khari Boli & Kauravi are highly similar, sometimes even the same), however Braj, Awadhi & Haryanvi might have exerted influence but not formed a base of Urdu. Yeah, Delhi is also one of the native regions along with Rohilkhand & Awadh.
@@virferind7946Well Urdu isn’t just built purely upon Khari Boli/Kauravi. Otherwise we would easily understand Kauravi. Urdu is a syncretisation of a few north Indian prakrits centred around Delhi for ease of communications between the people and the later Mughal court. So Braj and Khari Boli was mixed and a few borrowings from other local languages were amalgamated and standardised along with a significant Persian presence so the rulers could speak and understand more easily with the people.
@@Abdullah-uv9nk Yeah, its possible that Braj might have had some influence too, becoz Braj is spoken in the immediate vicinity to Dehlavi or Kauravi!
But I'm not sure if there's any convincing evidence to prove the presence of & degree of Braj influence on Urdu. I've always perceived Braj as a language of Bhakti & Radha Krishna Literature (just a personal notion).
See, to say influence is safe, becoz when we say "base" then that can be an overstatement esp in absence of conclusive proof! It is generally accepted that base was Kauravi or Dehlavi or Khari Boli (they're almost same) while influence can be of other dialects (Braj, Haryanvi & so on).
Be it Braj or Kauravi-Khari Boli or both, that would still keep Urdu's origin in western Uttar Pradesh.
@@virferind7946I never doubted Urdu as a language that originated from western UP and Delhi. And by ‘base’ I mean the grammar of Khari Boli and Braj was a combination of the two with to various degrees. Then you have the addition of some other language with a heavy presence of Persian - its defining aspect. The point is that Urdu isn’t a language belonging to a specific community i.e. you can’t say Urdu is the mother tongue of only Khari Boli speakers or even Delhiites. It’s all a mixture or Rekhta. Its purpose was simply for communication between the royal court and the commoners in India, a lingua Franca is you will.
Aap ki baten sachi hy. Urdu m tmam syllables or technical education or science ko agar ye urdu lovers urdu m raij kar saken to urdo ko lagu karen agar nahi to urdu ko chor den . English ko promote karen or sath sath local languages ko jesy Punjabi,sindhi, pashto, blochi etc. I am Punjabi villager paindu from Punjab Pakistan
Urdu belongs to UP and Bihar in India...Nothing to do with Pakistan 4 provinces😂😂😂strange why urdu😂😂
It was the language of Muslims, many of whom came to Pakistan.
Urdu has pretty much died in India. Even Muslims in UP now use many Sanskrit laden Hindi words.
@@QabilAGhor The formation of Urdu began as soon as the Ghaznavi forces settled in Lahore, that is in 1027. At what time they gave up Persian and took to speaking Punjabi Urdu alone, we cannot tell, probably it was a matter of a very few years. 166 years later the joint Ghori and Ghaznavi troops entered Delhi. In a short time Urdu was probably their usual language of conversation
@@talaltariqq_You got it!
Languages don't belong to religion but to Region love day 😂😂@@QabilAGhor
We are Punjabi and we love our Punjabi language.
Yes brother proud to be Punjabi here we should teach our kids Punjabi not Urdu....
I am urdu speaking person but you can't believe here in karachi people make fun of sindhi language but i found Sindhi more native to me than urdu and sindhi script is not boxes of dots but identify a speacil sound which Urdu can't make.I pray to Allah may this injustice end before end of our homeland Pakistan🇵🇰
Can you plz elaborate on which specific consonant & exact sound you're referring to, which is in Sindhi but not in Urdu?
Don't pray to Allah... All this happened bcoz of Allah... U were peaceful people living in your small indigenous community... Until ur great grandfathers were captured and great grandmothers were raped in the name of Allah....
As a Pakistani I get to meet many Indian students from different parts of India and they all confirm that they don't speak Hindi as day to day life. Instead they always speak their regional language plus one or two other languages like English and Hindi etc. It seems speaking additional languages is more of a functional thing but other than this they're very proud of the regional language, which is brilliant.
The success of Indian union lies in embracing the native linguistic diversity! India has 22 official languages. And many more new languages can be added further for enhancing linguistic multiculturalism & preservation.
Urdu is also a native Indian language, originating from western Uttar Pradesh & Awadh region, and is one of the 22 officially recognised languages on federal level & is one of the additional official languages in 8 states.
Sindhi & Punjabi are also one of the 22 federally recognised official languages of India!
despite we don't speak pure Hindi but when you write we always use pure Sanskritised Hindi .
Yes we Indians speaks our native and regional languages
Ham language ko Religion se nhi jodte unlike Pakistan jo urdu ko as a Ancestry aur Islamic bana kar arabic ke parallel bana diye hai 🥲isiliye imposition aur dusre region ke language ki wajah se bengal Bangladesh bana Pakistan se alag hokar
North me me 30-40 languages se jyada boli jaati hai jabki officially hindi aur English hai
UP me
Kauravi, Khari, Braj, Kannauji, avadhi, Bhojpuri, Urdu, hindi, Bundeli, bhageli, Pahadi,nepali, haryanavi,
boli jaati hai
Bihar me
magahi, magadhi, maithili, angika, vajjika, Bhageli aur Bhojpuri
boli jaati hai
Bengal me bangla
Odisha me Odia with many dilects
Rajasthan me Marwari, mewari, Mewati, Braj, Bhili, etc boli jaati hai
Uttarakhand me Gadhwali, kumaoni boli jaati hai
Jammu-kashmir me Punjabi, Hindi, Dogri, kashmiri, boli jaati hai
Karnataka me Kannada, tulu bola jata hai
Urdu zubban kisi ko smjh nhi atti ye baat smjhany k liye bhi bhai ko video m urdu bolni pari lol 😂
Ye Urdu nhi bol raha Hindi bol raha hai
@@SunilHr123-o3m are you serious
URDU DUA
HINDI PARATNA
URDU IBADAT
HINDI POOJA
URDU MOHABBAT PYAR
HINDI PREM
URDU HIFAZAT
HINDI RAKSHAK
URDU SALAM
HINDI I DON'T KNOW
URDU SHAHEED
HINDI IDK
URDU MARD AUR AURAT
HINDI PURSH
INDIAN SONG IN URDU LANGUGE THERE IS NO HINDI IN INDIAN SONGS
In Indian schools 3 languages formula is practice, mother tongue, English and Hindi/ Sanskrit.
yahan bhi aesa hi haii, same scenario, he's just creating an issue out of thin air, just for views 😂
@@sabihahmed699 waha India Mai aisa nahi hai kesi Tamil Nadu walay say Hindi bolwakar dekhadey north indians gaand Mai gusjaegey Tamil Nadu walay north indians ki Tamil Nadu walo ki books syllabus sab sirf 2 languages Mai hoti hai English or unki Tamil language kesi north indian chapri ko Tamil Nadu wale say communication karna ho to English Mai kare same yahi pakistan Mai bhi hona chaiye KPK Balochistan walo ko Punjabians say communication Karni ho to urdu ki zarorat nahi hai English seekhe or English Mai kare ye urdu ka keeda Punjabians Mai hi Raha hay shuru say kuo Kai Punjabians ko apni Punjabi ko jahilo or Pandus ki language samajtay hai urdu sirf Karachi tak mehdood rehni chaiye or yahi ki books school syllabus Mai urdu honi chaiye
@@sabihahmed699 main pakistan 🇵🇰 ki fundamental Crises ki Main jab Punjabians hai identity Les beghairat qoum hai ye North Punjabians south Punjab Jo seraikistani hai wo north Punjab jaise beghairat nahi hai seraiki apni culture roots Kai sath connect hai seraiki o ka budget bhi suar 🐖 Kai Bache north Punjab walay khajatay hai or Islamabad Lahore Mai lagadatey hai
@@sabihahmed699 challenge hai in beghairat Punjabio ka prove daisakta hu Lahore ki elite class DHA behria town Mai koi Punjabi nahi Bolta hoga sab mummy daddy urdu English boltey hai or jab Peshawar Jao waha elite class Mai Ghar Mai pashto boltey hai Maine dono cities Mai yahi dekha hai Peshawar Mai wo izzat daine Kai liye mehmaan o say urdu Mai baat kartay hai warna unki apni normal daily life pashto Mai hi guzarti hai Karachi Mai bhi aap ko har ethnicities ka pata chaljaega cosmopolitan city hai Karachi pooray south Asia ki ethnicities rehti hai Yaha urdu speaker Yaha India muhajir Kai liye word use Kara jata hai jabhi Jo urdu Bolta Howa dekhta hai wo muhajir hi bola jata or Jo pashto mix urdu wo pathan bas in Punjabio ka nahi pata chalta Karachi Mai baloch Sindhi Bengali seraiki pathan muhajir har kesi ka pata chaljata hai Karachi Mai logo Kai accent say sirf ye north Punjab Kai Punjabians urdu bolkar confused kartay hai ye kon hai
@@sabihahmed699 or Mai ye baat bhi clear karo Mai khud urdu speaker ho or Mai muhajir bhi nahi hai wo to bas karachi Mai 3 generations Kai paida honay or Yaha mix shaadiya karnay say maire language change hokar urdu speaking bangaye hai maire Shaadi bhi urdu speaking muhajir say howi hai urdu speaking koi ethnicity ya race nahi hoti or urdu subcontinent Mai rehnay walay bohot si different ethnicities Kai log hai jinki mother tongue urdu hai obviously Jo aaj urdu mother tongue walay log south Asia Mai hai kuch generation phelay in Kai baap dada urdu speakers nahi hongey kui Kai language ka link geography land say hota hai religion nationalism say nahi jin areas Mai jinki dominance waha ka culture ethnicity usi Kai according hoti hai Karachi Mai majority indian muhajir population hai jis ki waja say Sindh or Karachi ko culturally Alag Alag kaha jata hai muhajir name pakistan Kai dosray jaga nahi milega Peshawar Kai saddar area Mai thodey bohot log muhajir bhi rehtay hai Jo India say migrate karkay Peshawar shift hogaye thy wo aaj pashto bolrahay hote hai or Apne aap ko muhajir nahi boltey kuo Kai muhajir name bhi sirf aik political name hai Jo Karachi Mai paida Howa yaha ka demographic change honay say
Why are you speaking in urdu. Because everyone understands you.
So is you
Sir, more than half of Pakistan is not watching this video and in urdu. This channel is too underrated. Jo daikh rahay hain yaha. Ajeeb lagay ga but minority or parhay likhay hain. Warna kon daikhta itna intellectual content. Fact fact hea. Is video mea gakat koch nahi. Research ke zararat hea
9 billion people live on this earth god damn
Dont say everyone
The aim is not that Urdu should not be spoken, the issue is that Urdu should not be forced on the people of Pakistan and the local languages of Pakistan should be given their place. Now for 75 years you have been teaching Urdu in schools. If there had been so much investment in any other language instead of Urdu, we would have been talking in that language today
bhai wo as a whole pakistan ki bat kr raha hy... pakistan mei punjab k elawa 3 province 50% logo ko urdu nahi ati... average agr baat ki jaye... shaid es sy zyada bhi ho
Urdu agar nafiz ki gyi hai tu burai kia hai. tmam zubano ki trah ye bhy ek zuban hai or bht khoobsurat hai. Main saraiki speaking hun lekin mjhay saraiki kesath sath urdu bhi bht psand hai. agar ek zuban aa chuki hai tu hum uss se nafrat kio phelate rehte hn. tmam zabano ko sath le ker chala ja skta hai. Mere khyal se tu Urdu pori Pakistani qaum ko asaani dety hai ke wo ek dosre se interact kr sken chahay wo jis bhy ilaqay ke hun. just like English it is a shared medium of interaction. Shyed regional languages ye kaam na kr skten. So ju bhy hua iss mn behtri ka pehlu yhi hai ke tmam zubano ko sath le kr chala jaye. iss mn hmara apna faida hai.
I love Urdu as much as I love regional languages.
Haan sabhi zabaano ko saath leke chalna chahiye. Regional languages ko recognise kiya jaana chahiye. Hamare yahaa India mein Hindi aur English ke alaawa 22 official zabaane hain jinmein Urdu, Punjabi aur Sindhi bhi shaamil hai. Urdu ek native Indian language hai jo Uttar Pradesh se hai. Waqai ye duniya ki sabse shireen zabaano mein se hai!
@@virferind7946 haan India mn tu bht diversity hai
Isi akad ki wjh se Bangladesh bn gya 😂😂😂
@@SATWIKRAJ-x3b apko akad lg rhe hai tu mtlb apko bat ki smjh he nai ai.
@@invincibleonline Haa jee bhai.👍
As a Urdu speaking Muhajir, I appreciate this.
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ride the bandwagon just for a reply from shehzad, great work bro 👍👍
@@sabihahmed699 Thanks bro, I received a reply from Shehzad, my life is now complete.
@@sabihahmed699don’t agree but lol
How can you appreciate this? I'm a muhajir too
The formation of Urdu began as soon as the Ghaznavi forces settled in Lahore, that is in 1027. At what time they gave up Persian and took to speaking Punjabi Urdu alone, we cannot tell, probably it was a matter of a very few years. 166 years later the joint Ghori and Ghaznavi troops entered Delhi. In a short time Urdu was probably their usual language of conversation.
Source: The History of the Urdu Literature by T. Grahame Bailey.
It doesn't look like this is about Urdu, it seems more like some other local variant that might have formed prior to Urdu. It is possible that many contemporary local creole dialects might have come in existence all over north India & Punjab apart from the specific one that would form Urdu in later future! It is a common phenomenon that new creoles form when people of different ethnicities come in contact!
It is a well established fact that Urdu had developed around Khari Boli dialect base of Delhi region. How would it be possible for a creole of Lahore or Multan to form Urdu as we got without exposure to Khari Boli? Can a creole without Khari Boli be considered "Urdu" in any way?? No!!
I guess there's a serious problem with this theory that it is taking for granted that the same creole which formed out of contact in Punjab had formed Urdu in Delhi eventually! What is there to establish the link between the dialect of Punjab & basic structure of Urdu? That's the big question!
Urdu is an Indian language, based on Khari Boli dialect, formed between Delhi & Lucknow.
it was Hindavi, not urdu. Stop enroaching Hindi with urdu.
@@anixes I doubt if that was even Hindvi. Obviously it wasn't Urdu.
That seems like some local Persian mixed dialect of native Punjabi which might have formed as a transitional creole back then in that particular region!
You are bloody good in expression of facts. Your voice is like one is speaking to ownself. Retain you brilliance!!
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Honestly, you are complaining about the early leaders of Pakistan killing local languages. What did you expect from a nation that was formed primarily on basis of hatered from one community. The only way to hold such a nation together, then and now, is (1) create/retain a sense of perpetual insecurity and (2) rule it with an iron hand.
Look at all dictatorships and pseudo dictatorships (past & present), including single ruled communist states and democratic authoritarianisms.
Nothing positive is produced with "my way or high way". Never did and never will.
Unfortunately, Pakistan (as a nation) was incepted on that premises. Resulting in most unfortunate partion of one of the most great ancient land on the planet.
@@safalsuri And now its trying to claim one of our most beautiful languages- Urdu, to impose it over native languages of that country.
Thank you for the enlightening program, Ada Shehzad!. I have a question: Does the entire province of Punjab speak Punjabi? If not, what percentage speaks Saraiki and other languages?
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Yes. Seraiki is also a Dialect of Punjabi so yes entirety of Punjab speaks Punjabi. Even Azad Kashmir is Punjabi Speaking.
Seraiki speaking people are found in the lower half of Punjab. The issue of Seraiki, Hindko, Potohari and Pahari being a dialect of Punjabi or a separate language is more. ideological, provincial, and political based.
These above languages change with a spectrum (Dialect continuum) and the border between them is quite blur. Your 'Seraiki' may be closer to someone's 'Punjabi' than the 'Seraiki' of a person from further south.
I want to know if Urdu Punjabi Sindhi are written in the same script .
Like Hindi Marathi and Nepali are written in the Devnagari script , knowing one language , a person can read the others but cannot understand most of it
Yes they are
@@nofi8783 can a person read the other languages script?
@@shatnermohanty6678 yes you can read the script but just not understand what it says
Yes buddy they are all written in the nastaliq script, i.e perso-arabic.
Just like my mother tongue is bangla so I can read assamese and old maithili but I can probably only understand about 85- 90 % of what it says.
Definitely, agar mai Roman-Latin script me English likhu to aap ise padh sakte hai na 😅
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Great effort.. the most amazing part is that Jinnah ji is declaring that Urdu is the State language in English.. Sad fact of life...😢
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Because at that time his idea or objective was to get as many Muslims from India to Pakistan.
@@ThePakistanExperiencebhaiya 😅 humre government exam jo hote jise job milte hai wo bhi 22 language mei aate hai muj ek baar by mistake wrong paper' mil gya thaa
he was clearly a pawn, no one from his family bothered to join him.
He didn't even know Urdu
Bro I am not understanding the language you are speaking, kindly make your videos in other languages. Thanks
Hey Shehzad, I'm a huge fan of your show and I've watched every episode. I appreciate your take on Urdu being imposed and the impact on regional languages like Sindhi, Balochi, and Punjabi. There’s validity in noting how these languages might have been sidelined, and I respect your perspective.
However, I want to offer a different angle. Urdu, often perceived as a "so-called unifying language," actually plays that role for many of us in Pakistan. For example, in India, while English is becoming the fastest-growing language at the national level, Hindi faces similar criticisms to Urdu here. Yet, both languages serve to bridge diverse populations.
Your choice to conduct your programs in Urdu is telling; it’s to reach the broadest Pakistani audience. But why not also include segments in Sindhi or other regional languages, with subtitles in Urdu or English? This approach can foster greater inclusivity. I’ve found myself drawn to Pashto podcasts with subtitles because they were intriguing and accessible.
In today’s digital era, promoting regional languages doesn’t require diminishing Urdu's role. Instead, we can expand our linguistic repertoire to include both, preventing any one language from monopolizing communication. This could prevent English from becoming the sole medium, a trend we’ve seen in India to some extent.
I value your insights because they spark meaningful discussions and new ideas. I hope this comment adds to our understanding and encourages more linguistic inclusivity on your platform. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to more thought-provoking content!
Its is imposed
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All that you’re arguing for could have remained without the imposition, like I say in the video it is not the language that I have an issue with, it should have been spread with Ghalib, with poetry and with love, imposing it only led to the break up of the country.
@@ThePakistanExperience Truly agree with that!
it make complete sense for India to have hindi as official language as hindi belt make 60% of indian population. On the other hand Urdu is not even indigenous to Pakistan. Pakistani elite just impose urdu for sake of their own self.
@@umar7182on basis of majority Punjabi would not be acceptable. In India’s case there is also English.
To understand why Urdu in the Pakistani context, it is important to know the constitution of Urdu language. The story of Urdu/Hindustani language is historically an interesting one. Gopi Chand Narang, Maulana Hali, Tilok Chand Mahroom’s essays, talks are great references to make sense of Urdu’s fluid nature which has the quality of permeating linguistic boundaries.
People fail to mention this sheer beauty of Urdu language. The power to absorb vocabulary from other languages. I absolutely agree that it shouldn't have been imposed from the state but gradually developed, while keeping perhaps English as the only state language but what's done is done unfortunately. I still love Urdu to my core, and wish to speak and learn more about it and literature in it.
Yeah, in India Urdu dialects are quite divergent maybe becoz Urdu is so broadly present. One can find the most authentic dialect amongst Lakhnavi elites, and most entertaining dialect amongst Hyderabadi folks. There are many other less documented dialects each getting influenced by their respective state languages. Urdu spoken in north Maharashtra (Malegaon) for instance has a significant influence of Marathi over its vocabulary & pronunciation! You're absolutely right when you said it moves thru linguistic boundries! Maybe its a basic character of Urdu for it has acquired words from different languages right from her inception! I love Urdu & as an Indian I feel proud of Urdu's Indian origin & cultural heritage.
@@fmkhan213Punjabi Sindhi are more deep and beautiful ❤️ than even urdu. Urdu only has 1 word but Punjabi has 2 3 words to describe the same thing! That's why songs can be easily written in Punjabi! Urdu is only spoken in one and you can't even express yourself properly in urdu. While in Punjabi you speak what is in your heart. That's the difference.
How about you start doing your podcast exclusively in Sindhi and ask your guests to also speak Sindhi only if they have to be on the podcast
Even the Marathas when they ruled parts of northern India used Persian for written communication and hindustani for verbal communication... Even Rani Lakshmi bhai's official communications with the British was in Persian.
But not on the cost of their own languages. Kings like Shivaji Maharaj safeguarded Marathi by creating its glossaries.
@@virferind7946correct even Marathas never allow any persian words in Marathi .
@@vbh4315they did. Espescially military words
I am from an Urdu speaking background and grew up speaking Urdu and I really love this language. But, I clearly see the disservice some to regional languages by enforcing Urdu as the national language.
I don't speak other languages besides Urdu and English. I tried learning Sindhi, Punjabi, Pashto, Balochi, Arabic, Persian, French, German and Classical Latin. I can make sense of simple Arabic, Persian, Sindhi and Punjabi but can't speak them.
While trying to learn these languages, I realized all of these languages except for our regional languages had a history of being taught and had good material available for it. Even if I want to learn Sindhi, Punjabi, Pashto, Balochi, there isn't any good resource available. Even a dead language Latin has more resources available, if you want to learn it.
Recently, I have found some sindhi and saraiki dictionaries online which gives me hope.
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بھائی جان ، آپ کے ہر دلعزیز ، راج دلارے ، چندے آفتاب ، چندے ماہتاب ، عزت مآب ، وزیراعظم صاحب چار سال سعودی میں رھے ، وہ تو عربی دیکھ کر بھی صحیح نہیں پڑھ پاتے ، آپ کن چکروں میں پڑ گئے ہیں -
You are absolutely right. If Urdu is poor, Pakistan's regional languages are even more poor in terms of literature, vocabulary, and resources. Urdu has vast literature, especially with respect to Islam. Without Urdu, Pakistan cannot survive.
@@QabilAGhor I am not saying that. I am saying that regional languages are extremely neglected in Pakistan. It is unfortunate that Urdu the so called official language too isn't faring well but the regional languages are at the brink of extinction.
@@pascalwager4544 That's not true. All you have to do is to watch Coke Studio. Most of the songs are in Pakistan's local languages. Trust me, I have met Punjabis in the US who refuse to talk to me in Urdu! They would rather speak Punjabi or English.
My point is, that Pakistan cannot become a "nation" until it speaks ONE language. Why not borrow Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi and Pashto words into Urdu?
Proud to be a Bangladeshi 🇧🇩
Bangali league is our pride 😊
Can you also do a video how English was imposed on the American people even though majority of the people were German origin where they spoke German at home and gradually German language was threatened out of existence in the US during world war II
I made a similar point. The Germans, Dutch and the French (Louisiana was full of them), gave up their language for national unity.
@@QabilAGhor You don't necessarily have to give up your languages for national unity. How about India & her 22 Federally Official Languages & many more Official State Level Languages?
Brother did Non-English speakers of US consciously gave up their Languages or those Languages just vanished due to lack of patronage?? I guess its very difficult for a person to let go of his language. Like you don't live in Urdu homeland anymore, but you still speak Urdu, that's admirable. But I feel you wouldn't have given up your language for another language had Pakistan chosen that language as its national language & not Urdu! What would've you done?
@@virferind7946 The problem in Pakistan is that no one language has united us, even though Urdu is now spoken and written by all people. My solution is to expand Urdu, which is already a mixture of many languages, by incorporating nouns from Pakistan's regional languages into it. Thus creating a new "Pakistani Language." It would enrich Urdu. India can do the same with Hindi.
@@QabilAGhor It would be a welcome move to be honest. In India Hindi & Urdu are already diversifying in terms of style of speaking & vocabulary.
However, this also means that the authentic north Indian character of Urdu that defines identity of standard Urdu will be even more compromised in Pakistan, its already different from native Urdu but it will then further diverge.
So how do you perceive the change in basic character of Urdu after making her more localised?
@@QabilAGhor (posting this reply here for you, since I'm not sure if you received it in the other comment thread where this was being discussed by us)
Brother so as to say "Urdu was born in Punjab", one will have to restructure the whole evolutionary & ancestral history of Urdu Language.
In regards to your claim about Punjabi origin of Urdu, I've following doubts!
01 What about the base dialect? Khari Boli/Dehlavi which formed Urdu in Rohilkhand & Awadh was not available in Punjab, so which dialect then formed this base of Urdu if not Khari Boli?
02 Urdu & Hindi are like twin languages, but Urdu & Punjabi are not! So it seems likely that Urdu is basically from a region that has Hindi, Hindustani & similar Urdu like languages. Urdu just doesn't fit amongst the tapestry of Punjabi Dialects.
03 Only eastern dialects of Punjabi (spoken in India) have same ancestor (Shaurseni Prakrit) as Urdu, but western Punjabi dialects (spoken in India & Pakistan) have a different ancestry (Kakei Prakrit) so these western Punjabi Dialects can't have Urdu as one of the Language in their group!!!
We need concrete evidence & linguistic proofs, just suggestions & ideas will not form a credible theory!
So how are these inconsistencies tackled in Punjab origin theory of Urdu???
نافذ .... مطلب "مسلط" ！
میں ایک پنجابی ہوں اور میری قومی زبان پنجابی ہے اردو نہیں ！
اور یہ چیز مجھے تب سمجھ آئی جب میں نے دیکھا کہ باقی صوبوں کے لوگ تو اپنی زبان فخر سے بولتے ہیں مگر ہم پنجابی اپنے گھر میں بھی اردو ！
پاکستان کے نام پر کیا کیا بیہودگیاں کیں جناح اور اسکے نام نہاد لیڈروں نے！
As a Balochi ..I appreciate it
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❤best ❤
Baloch not balochi is our language.
Word is Baloch not Balochi
بهترين....... شھزاد.
بہت اچھے۔
زبردست۔
سمندر کو کوزے میں بند کر دیا آپ نے۔
اللہ سلامت رکھے۔
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1) Hindi is not an actual language infact it was created deliberately by Hindu Priests or Hindu Nationalist in spite of Urdu.
2) Hindustani is the actual language of the common people and it has different dialects in the Hindavi-Belt according to the region.
3) Hindustani was the actual language which originated from the Hindavi-Belt i.e. Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Delhi, Hyderabad-Deccan and Madhya Pradesh.
4) Urdu is the literary and standardized register of the actual language i.e. Hindustani(Hindavi) and it was utilized by the gentry nd educated classes from all ethnic and religious backgrounds.
5) Hindustani also has local registers which are as follows:
Khari Boli/Kaurvi (Delhi and Uttar Pradesh)
Awadhi/Purbi (Uttar Pradesh)
Braj Basha (Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh)
Bundheli (Madhya Pradesh)
Magahi (Bihar)
Maithli (Bihar)
Dekhani (Hyderabad-Deccan)
Dhakiya (Dhaka)
Karachvi or Karachi's Urdu (A new dialect formed due to the amalgamation of the distinct dialects of the native speakers of the Hindustani from the Hindavi-Belt)
6) The Hindustani and English are akin to eachother in terms of history, development and adoption.
7) Urdu(Hindustani) is not native language of regions situated and it was not developed and born within the boundaries of Pakistan but still is the Lingua Franca of the majority and the gentry class from this region also contributed a lot in Urdu.
Urdu plays the same role in the Subcontinent as English plays for the people globally and it does not matter if the native speakers of both languages are very few in number compared to the overall speakers of the language.
7) The ethnocentrist ret@rds can calm down about the so-called imposition of Urdu on their native lands as Pakistan did not nationalized the whole Hindustani language instead Pakistan just adopted the necessary standardized and literary register of the Hindustani language. No one is forcing anyone in Pakistan to learn Braj Basha, Khari Boli or Dekhani etc instead just the standardized version of it as no one is forcing you to learn the Cockney, Pitmatic, Scouse and Cheshire dialects of English etc.
Inshort, Hindi is not language and stop calling Hindi a language as even in India they still speak and use Urdu (Hindustani).
Hindustani(Hindavi) is the actual language which was developed over time and has different dialectic varieties based on the regions within the boundaries of the Hindavi-Belt(Hindustani Belt) and Urdu is just the standardized and literary register of the Hindustani(Hindavi) language.
I am not a very patriotic Pakistani...
One reason is that I was taught in Urdu instead of Pashto.
I would be a better student and human if I were taught science and humanities in Pashto because I would understand them much better.
Also, because of Urdu_ization of Pakistan, they don't allow the Pashto media thus essentially killing the language.
We have always been told that Urdu is a better language... This has kind of created a bias in my mind against the so-called national language...
A national language actually belonging to India...
@@virferind7946 what ever but internationally it belong to Pakistan even indian don't know the exact urdu urdu is beautiful language
@@IbrahimKhan-id6wi Internationally Urdu is considered a language continuum of Hindi-Urdu, or two sociolects of Hindi-Urdu common language- sometimes called Hindustani which is considered 4th most spoken language of the world. At international levels it's considered to spoken not just in India & Pakistan, but also in Bangladesh, Nepal & UAE (though its Native only to India).
No brother, its Pakistanis who speak incorrect Urdu. Pakistanis say- lein, dein, jaayein instead of native proper Indian Urdu- leejiye, deejiye, jaaiyein etc.
Urdu like Hindi is originated in India (not in Pakistan). A lot of Indians living in Lucknow, Delhi, Rohilkhand (Rampur, Bareilly etc), Hyderabad & other parts of Deccan speak good Urdu, esp Lucknowi Urdu is considered as the sweetest & softest variety of Urdu. Homeland of Urdu is western Uttar Pradesh of India. Yeah, its a very beautiful language!
urdu should be only taught in karachi and rest languages should be official languages of pakistan
I am a regular follower of your podcasts and vlogs. But, dear buddy, this time your agenda is useless, however, you have improved our knowledge in this video about languages. I would like to mention here, Urdu is so powerful that it has an ability to adopt words from other languages. State has promoted Urdu but still English is a language of elite. The competitive exam demands too much in English only and candidates do their best effort to make it happen in English. Later on, when they become bureaucrat generally speak in Urdu or any other language so why English just to discriminate masses. You have not said any word for English but the Urdu which is acceptable for all is on your radar. The riots of language in Bengal could be solved if Bengali got same status like Urdu. First of all, our major population is not much literate and they are able to speak Urdu that is enough for now. I am Baloch and I love the accent of our Baloch, Pathan, and Brahvi brothers' Urdu accent common in Balochistan. Similarly, in Sindh, Punjab and KPK Urdu with different dialect is spoken. We have many other issues need to resolve. Let it go for Urdu.
Is Balochi a provincial language in Balochistan? And is being taught in schools as a subject??
@@virferind7946 Yes, balochi is a native tongue of Baloch people in Balochistna. The education of Balochi language is somehow at primary level is done in school but not later. Yes, in University students can do degree program in Balochi language and literature.
@@hatifjee That's good to know. Has it been given provincial status in Balochistan province?
6:06 you showed the correct map of India 😁
you are just mixing different timelines of history to corroborate your argument, further it lacks practicality as all other factors are completely ignored.
I also read murder of history by KK Aziz on your suggestion and found him blatantly criticizing Muhajirs for each and everything.
What timeline did I mix
he made the point that before 1947 people (punjab, sindh, kpk,)still used to trade as if they were speaking english to communicate, that is nothing but hipocrisy because this reasoning is bogus. There is no way a pakhtun could trade with a punjabi without using urdu as a language.
Kaunsi video dekh rahay thay bhai? Mai nay kab kaha ye
@@sabihahmed699he said there exists a natural dialectical continuum and people at the border regions spoke that. It’s kind of true but not completely, because there is no similar language from Punjabi to Pashto as they are from different branches (Iranic and Indic)
Ye to abdul hai 😂😂😂😂😂
I love urdu but it’s not my language, it’s not native to my land , Punjabi should be the official language of Punjab, this napaak elite imposed their language on us !
Itni mehnat Urdu k khilaaf ? Now people may relate the mockery of Anwar Maqsood and Moin Akhtar. This person is working on agenda.
A bit of critical thinking might be ‘ mehnet’ for you. 😊
He is a chauvinist or has an identity insecurity.
This os problem with Pakistan. Anyone doing some good research becomes an agenda and Agent of RAA
He's just misinterpreting the history of Urdu in Pakistan. Surely working on agenda
@@Factomedi A lot of these people are Indian assets.
Khud apni video ki reach badhane ke liye Urdu me video bana rha hai 😂
Urdu was the preferred language in Punjab even before the creation of Pakistan, as evidenced by the fact that Iqbal and Faiz, two greatest poets of Punjab of the twentieth century, chose Urdu for their sukhan-awari.
Secondly, the bureaucracy at this moment is probably the most important entity committed to the preservation and revival of regional languages. Not only does CSS have regional languages as optional subjects, but also the consistent high scores in these subjects encourage aspirants to choose them.
Yea because the British promoted in Urdu over Punjabi amongst Muslims to divide them from Sikhs
@@ThePakistanExperienceMuslims and Sikhs were always divided
I read this in a newspaper article in the same context: 'The Brits found it easier to do their business activities in English & Urdu with their existing skills'. So they didn't favour Punjabi. They had a Hindustani bias, which then got internalised by the working class of Punjab. Finally resulting in rise Urdu in Punjabi land. That's probably why some authors of Punjab chose to write in Urdu instead of Punjabi.
That means Punjabi already was on the backfoot in her native region, got compromised even further due to the official Urdu imposition post independence.
@@ThePakistanExperience Some Sikh Gurus wrote in Bruj Bhasha which is one of the basal languages of Urdu, they also wrote, read and understood Persian.
The beauty of India lies in having mutiple languages. Trying to make everyone alike in any respect (be it language, culture or religion) is proven foolish in the contemporary world and even in history. A language takes centuries to evolve. It should be cared and preserved.
I totally agree! India is a role model when it comes to celebration of linguistic diversity. India has 22 official languages at federal level! That's a marvel of richness & vibrancy!
There's however an issue with north Indian languages where many full-fledged languages are being falsely labelled as "Hindi Dialects", this denies them their rightful distinct existence. This is the story of Rajasthani, Bhojpuri, Angika, Bajjika, Magadhi, Bundeli, Bagheli, Haryanvi, Awadhi, Braj, Pahadi, Kumaoni, Garwali etc. Its very important to recognise these languages the way we recognised languages in South.
Another point of contention is Urdu, which is falsely being perceived as the language of a particular community. This is completely against the composite & secular character of Urdu. Its one of the most beautiful Indian languages. It should be brought back in her secular self!
Urdu is not a language of any ethinicity. It is a product of the collective wisdom of rich linguistic heritage of Sub Continent. I am very happy that it is our national language, it has enabled me to communicate with pathans, sindhi, bloachi, gilgiti and Indians.
There is no need to create any unnecessary controversy...
Exactly !!
However with the realisation of Partition, changed identities & current boundaries, its would remain a fact that Urdu is not native to any of the Pakistani regions, but is an Indian language from western Uttar Pradesh.
@@virferind7946Lots of Pashtuns and Punjabis have contributed to it. It’s their language as much as any one else
@@virferind7946In future, Urdu will only survive in Pakistan. I can already see that in India, even Muslims are using more and more Hindi/Sanskrit words.
@@QabilAGhor Not necessarily brother. Urdu is standing strong in India. Its included in Eightth Schedule of Constitution, has official status in as many as 8 Indian states (Kashmir, Delhi, UP, Bihar, Jharkhand, West Bengal, Telangana, AP). Has her own space in Indian cinema ("Dedh Ishqiya", "Heeramandi"), music (Binte Dil, Deewani Mastani) & media (Urdu channels by ETV). Urdu has her own journalism (Munsif Daily, Urdu Times, Sangam). Has universities like AMU & schools like Shahin. Has websites like Rekhta. Has Qaumi Urdu Academy & its high quality magazines like Urdu Duniya. You can't judge the status just by some people. Urdu definitely has challenges in India but there are people who are stronger than those problems!
If we speak about Urdu in Pakistan, the first & foremost truth is that Urdu do not belong to Pakistan as a native language the way it belongs to India. The version of Urdu spoken in Pakistan is not very pure either. Jaayein, Aayein, Lein, Dein is not proper Urdu. Not to mention high Punjabi influence on Urdu in Pakistan so much so it even alters the structure of an Urdu sentence in favour of Punjabi. If at all Urdu survives in Pakistan it will mainly be as "Punjabi Urdu fusion", a far cry from her actual Hindustani Urdu self.
PS: India has much larger number of first language Urdu speakers than Pakistan!
Bkl 15 langugaes di list tu banali and missed the largest one Punjabi somehow?
Ik youre a racist but this is just blatant.
Appreciate the video thought. Urdu is not ours. Punjabi sindhi pushto all the way
Ayh Beghairat saary Puniabiaa dy e dushmn ny
Aik Federation ke itehaad ke liye zaroori tha aur hai kah aik zubaan ho jo sab ko milaye. Tareekhi aur saqafati wajoohat ki waja se Urdu hi woh aik zubaan bnti hai.Isme kia buri baat hai kah sab apni maadri zubaan ke sath sath urdu bhi seekh lain. Me Punjabi hoon aur mere waladain Punjabi hi bolte hain lekin unki terah mene bhi Urdu seekhi. Zaroorat ke mutabiq hum sab ne Angrezi bhi tau seekhi hai. Qaumiat se barh ke sochna chahiye.
Reh gaya us federation ka ittehad phir?
Urdu ke baghair, Pakistan toot jaiyega, Punjab azaad ho jayega, aur phir Sikhon ke saath mil kar Punjabistan ban jayega. 😂
Tu ap urdu mae video nhe banaty na. Agr itny sachy hain
Language se barh kr yeh Identity ka masla hai. Thori Video dekh kr hi comment kr lete
Podcast khud Urdu me h😂
bass against the tide aur anti establishment hone ke liye urdu ko demonize kar rahy hain, ye hi video agr english me hoti toh ghanta itne views aany thy 😂😂
pakistani arabic h persian h Mugal h bss pakistani nhi h 😅 . apni identity ko leke bhot confused h ye log . thode din baad chinese bn jayenge😅
Chaahe jo ban jaaye, par Pakistani India aur Hinduo se nafrat zaroor karenge! India ki Urdu ko national language banaayenge, Bollywood filme dekhenge, Indian products istemaal karenge, India ke Kashmir ko chahenge, par nafrat se baaz nahi aayenge!
AP DUNYA MAIN KAHIN B CHALAY JAO TO APKO ENGLISH BOLNA PERTI HA 1 DUSRAY KO SAMJHNAY K LEYE
BHAI ISI TERAH AP PAKSITAN K KISI B KONAY MAIN CHALY JAON AP KO SAMJHNAY K LEYE 1 DUSARY SAY URDU BOLNA PERTI HA AUR ABHI AP KEH RAY HO YEH KISI KO NI ATI
For some reason, we are more concerned about urdu being pushed down as a national language than English as a state / official language. Imagine the enhancement in access to information, education, justice, if all legal documents and correspondence were in our local languages. Urdu is our local language, it is a common one among the multi lingual community and nation of Pakistan. I do not see urdu being national language an alienation or undermining of other languages, you always need a language for the nation in which the units will communicate effectively through official channels. Imagine parliamentary affairs if every individual acted under hubris to only speak their regional language, rest of the people wouldn't even understand him, and here I emphasize urdu being that operational language rather than english, because majority of the nation understands it better. Urdu is our language nonetheless, english never was and never will be. Look at Iran's president speaking in his own language, we are still under colonial hangover. The energy you guys pedal into language issue is almost always misdirected, Urdu being national language is no big deal, even if you name all the languages as national, you still need a language for the federation at large, the choice is urdu or english, for some reason no one has a stomach ache as long as its English. This is just another issue that was heavily politicized for power struggles by populist politicians to manipulate public sentiment in their favor. To quote no. Of native Urdu speakers reeks of malfeasance because that does not take away the fact that majority of the nation is equipped with functional ability in speaking and understanding Urdu either in writing or speech and thank god for it, how else would a Pakhtun survive in Sindh and vice versa etc. You always need one language for all the units at large, to pick one from either of the units where it is a majority would rise injustice of inequity such as Punjabization of Pakistan, Sindhization etc, Urdu works literally because its the minority. Its national status allows it to be taught at national level and help us become a nation through common tonque from one generation to another. Its a good thing Urdu, go fight colonial legacy of English instead that has resulted in exclusion of a majority of people of Pakistan. Food for thought: How many are you willing to watch a national news channel that only speaks Sindhi or Pashto or English? If Urdu was not operational in majority, these news channels wouldnt thrive. Urdu connects our plural and diverse society, don't make it a villain that it isn't, dissent for the sake of dissent serves no purpose and does not make you a rebel in counter culture swag. PS my mother tonque is Sindhi.
😂 mughalta Bakistani ka bhekari. Ali Garh ka londa
Jahalat tapak Rahi hy
You can’t invent facts. Where is the evidence that a majority of Pakistanis understood and spoke Urdu in 1947? The Majority of the country was East Pakistan, even in West Pakistan show me the evidence for your claim.
I’ve literally addressed your arguments in the video, look next door, they don’t have this problem, we imposed Urdu and lost East Pakistan, no clue how you see it as a non issue and attack people who talk about it as being the problem.
Exactly my point.
As Shashi Tharoor said in one of his interviews of English being link language among different states of India. As then it is then cruel to everyone equally.
Why is it so wrong for Pakistan to have Urdu as link language which is much easier to learn and understand as it has common words in all the languages spoken in Pakistan. People don’t need any classes or coaching specifically to learn Urdu.
I do agree local languages shouldn’t be pushed down or looked down upon, but still, in a country like Pakistan or India, where people belong to different cultural backgrounds, there’s always a need for a link language.
Urdu was for sure politicised at the time of partition, but it was spoken and well respected before the British came. There are so many other controversies in Pakistan, now people have found this new issue to fight and hate each other.
I for one will always love Urdu as a language 💁🏻♀️
Did I say don’t love Urdu? Did I say don’t speak Urdu? Did you even watch the video?
Jinnah did not know how to write and speak urdu. He never practised Namaz. What a hypocratical.
Correct
We hava an urdu paper in hyderabad (Deccan). Actually in india's most provinces were formed on the basis of Language. However, the combined state of Andhra pradesh was to have its own province based on the language Telugu. But Nehru denied the formation of this state. Then one person by name Potti sreeramulu fasted for 56 days and died. Then Andhra pradesh was formed. But now the state is divided into Telangana and Andrapradesh. This division happened on developmental issues. I think India has moved on from linguistic state formation to more of development programs
Yeah that's true to considerable extent! But at the same time there are two more points:
01 One of the angles of Telangana & Andhra Pradesh divide was language itself, that Telangana people alleged that their dialect Telugu ("Telangana Slang") is not being given her due status & dignity in united Andhra and the Telugu of Seemandhra is dominating all the scenes!
02 At present, many aspirant states in India are being demanded on linguistic lines- Gorkhaland (Nepali), Kosal (Kosali), Bodoland (Bodo), Mithila (Maithili), Kutch (Kutchi), Tulu Nadu (Tulu), Coorg (Coorgi) etc.
That means linguistic consciousness is still a matter for people. Its very hard to not love your own language. India is vibrant becoz of her linguistic diversity. India is very progressive & it should be, but Indian linguistic sentiments are our strength not a hurdle to economic development!
پاکستان کی سرکاری زبان اگر اردو ہو جاتی تو آپ تو آسمان سر پر اٹھا لیتے 😂😂😂
I am from India and here majority people know 2 or 3 language .
Me myself known Hindi,Urdu,English , my regional language Mathili,Sanskrit . But we live in capital so in our home we speak mix of Mathili+Hindi+Urdu .
Your regional language Sanskrit is about to extinct very soon
Yeah India is very multilingual. Its good that regional languages are given weightage. I wish we had more languages in Eightth Schedule, esp from north India where many authentic languages are being wrongfully subsumed under the umbrella term of Hindi Dialects, esp Rajasthani & Bihari group of languages.
Most people speak at least 2 languages passably. Even in Europe. It is only Anlophones(British/English) that are monolingual.
There lies the beauty of India, general acceptance of the existence of other languages. India only became stronger by accepting different languages
Exactly, 22 Official Languages & many more State Languages including Urdu, Punjabi & Sindhi.
Urdu & Hindi both are Indian languages & thriving very well in India along with several other languages.
No doubt Urdu is the Mother language of minorities but has practical significance.
Why are you speaking in Urdu.
Should speak in English and how many listeners would understand you.
We should do promote local languages but Urdu is the language of our communication.
I don’t agree that most of the people can’t understand Urdu.
It is opposite.
Urdu is Persian influenced. It's very hard to understand even by Hindi speakers like me.
If you want to teach straight up teach Farsi. Why do you have to teach urdu at all then.
And also if Pakistan chose Punjabi as national Language everyone would have been understanding Punjabi. Because it's native to 50% of whole Country.
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@@ThePakistanExperience bs Bhai yeh Ker do 5 comments main 1 word spelling mistake Jo k auto te wo apko Mili uska reply ap nay fori Kia
Bs Bhai yahi Soch badlo qoam ban jao gay
Mean pooray 100 words main 1 word apko wrong Mila us per ap nay comment Kia kash baqi 99 apko qimti lagay hty
Bhai apnay subscribers say pehlay apna zarf bara kero
Sir word hay kya waqayee nahee Pata mujhay
@@ThePakistanExperience sir my mistake mjhy apki purani videos mil gai ap to standup comedy kerty Tay hahah main aisay he apko serios lay Lia
Carry on carry on
Main samjjha apki scalp main brain type he Kuch Hoga bt mjhy yad Aya survey k mutabiq Jo appki he perjaati k Banday bataya tha 80%pakistanio k brain ki Jaga 2 testicles hty Hain inki Soch is say agay ni Jati
Keep it up 💪 stand up
Yeh ek relevant topic hai. Pakistan mein waqai jo asl Pakistani zabaane hai unpe Urdu jo kee ek Indian language hai, impose ki jaa rhi hai. Isme ghlt kya kaha hai inhone?
bhai tu apni video to pahle Sindhi mai bana :D khud samjh jae ga Urdu national language kion hai :P
and don't say identity crises in whole Pakistan , Pakistan never end only to Panjab and Sindhi as a Pashtun i know our ancestor alhamdulillah
We Punjabis , many of us , are also trying to get back to regional languages
And learning about out ancestors
کیا کبھی پاکستان میں علاقائی زبانوں پر سرکاری سطح پر پابندی لگی ہے؟
Never
All the Karachiites are "forced" to learn Sindhi. By your logic Karachi should be separated from Sindh. I bet you would crap your pants just by the thought of that. Kiya khayal hai pipliye?!? 💥
That’s what I said. Stop the imposition of Sindhi on Muhajirs!
I am sure you all think Arabi was forced on Israelis in Palestine. Agar Aap ko pant kholnay say fursat Milay toh dimaagh bhi khol Lena kabhi apna
@@ThePakistanExperience I'm not sure if your ramblings would lead to any productive outcome. I just asked a simple question. If we follow your logic, forcing Sindhi on all ethnic groups in Karachi should lead to Karachi breaking away from Sindh. Why don't you back that idea? Pakistan is a diverse nation with multiple ethnicities. The intention behind promoting one language was to foster unity and understanding among all.
The separation of East Pakistan occurred due to years of financial and social oppression, which marginalized the Bengalis and eventually led to the creation of Bangladesh.
Google East Pakistan language rights and remind me again why there is a Mother Language Day around the world. Thora parh Lia karo Kuch bolnay say pehley dost
@@ThePakistanExperience You do not speak your own mother tongue, why celebrate Mother Language day then? Urdu has become the lingua franca of Pak, and no other language can take its place now. Instead of dwelling in the past, try to understand why Urdu resonates with the masses. Survival of languages hinges on their utility. Languages survive and thrive when used for communication, trade or politics by the majority of the population. Urdu meets the need of the day, if it stops fulfilling the need of the majority of the population, it will also die out. My ancestors spoke Persian, but necessity compelled them to adopt the local dialect. They embraced it, incorporated the words of their cherished Persian and Arabic languages into that dialect, hence Urdu was born.
Don’t take me wrong. I am one of those who bleed green. I love everything that is or has ever been a part of the age-old civilizations which flourished in this ancient land of the Indus. While I hold deep affection for all languages spoken in our land, I also acknowledge the reality of our situation. Regional languages are an integral part of our national heritage, and the government should take necessary steps so that they can be preserved - but Urdu will continue to hold its position as the national language.
Kash mughalon ne east India company ko spices sell krne ka noc na dia hota.
Then maybe French or Dutch would have been here
India was always a lucrative destination for the colonial powers
Bro , Do you know that although most of India was under British rule , Goa and Pondicherry were under Portuguese and French rule and became only became part of India in 1961-62 ?
@@shatnermohanty6678 India lost $45 trillion in British Raj
@@azizurrehman4643 their divide and rule policy causes hindu Muslim feud and then birth of 2 nation theory, and from. Nowhere Urdu became the language of Muslims and rest is the history which is mentioned in this video.
@@mohsinmahesar8407 Perception of Urdu in India as a language of Muslims is very incorrect & unfortunate! Urdu is a very vibrant, multi-ethnic & secular Indian language. I wish people understand the true composite nature of Urdu.
Divide & Rule wasn't the only cause of feud, the history of Iz lamic invasion, jizya & destruction of places of worship by them had left a striking imprint on Hindu mind. The same is continuing even to this day!
But those who speak Urdu are the one who made Pakistan
I’m in tears thinking of how you’ve made some people’s life’s work- for which they were vilified and called traitors- so accessible and easy for future generations. This is a video of enduring importance for all Pakistanis!
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0:17 khubsurat animation
2:09 aby apko or sir muzamil syed ko is book ki royalty milni chahye 😂 no really man like one comment succinctly put it, you and muzamil gave the persecuted, censored, vilified people that limelight they deserved. I, for one, wouldn't have known these people exist, even the guests on your podcast.
3:30 khubsurat animation again
7:15 screenshot of article 343, the document. No one incorporates such text in their videos because "people don't read anyway". But you do and this philosophy is ayaan in all videos.
9:03 why Pubjabi elite considers Punjabi paindu, ustad banda pappi lay apki
11:00 bhai rula dia 😢
11:17 bullay shah sirf cokr studio k lyricist nahi hain, kya khubsurat script ha yar 🥺
12:19 😂😂😂 kana yari
13:21 sorry to be that guy lekin مزاحیہ خیز nahi مضحکہ خیز hota ha 🥱
14:04 wo ghaddar nahi, aap amir hain, o ustad g chad dyo mic 🎤
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Urdu hi best option hai national language banane ke liye kyuki agar Punjabi ko banate to Sindhi ke sath na insafi agar Sindhi ko banate to Pashto se na insaafi ho jati
Par ek Hindustani zabaan chunke insaaf sirf Hindustaniyo ke saath kiya gayaa hai...
@@virferind7946 Jab wo Pakistan hijrat kar gaye to pakistani ho gaye ......aur Urdu sirf hindustan ki zubaan nahi poore barr e sagheer ki zuban hai usme pakistan bhi shamil hai
@@itsnadeemahmedfir Punjabi , Sindhi , balochi ko bahir nikal Diya Gaya .....Urdu ke liye .
har desh me sabhi language padhne ki chhoot honi chahiye.
Koi language nafrat ke layak nahi hoti.
Sabki apni khoobsurati hai.
Mai Delhi se hu or mai Hindi,Haryanvi, Punjabi, bhojpuri or english samajh or bol sakta hoon.
Sari bhashay achi hoti hai.
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Panjabi ki ek Kahawat hai , " Bhala Hoiya Mera Charkha Tuttiya , Jind Ajabon Chhutti " .. Hind Pak dono Mulkon me hi ,
Kush Muslim Bhai Behan aur Kush Hindu Bhai Behan yeh tasleem kar baithe hain ke , " Panjabi Sikhon Ki Zuban hai " .. woh jaan boojh kar iss sachayi ko gayeb kar dete hain ke Sikhism sirf 550 saal ka hai aur Panjabi Zuban kayi Hazaar saal se Zinda hai ..🙏🙏
For Punjabi Pakistani muslims let them decide what they are speaking but claiming that Indian Punjabi Hindus don't speak Punjabi is bit of an exaggeration and also seems quite patronizing specially when it comes from Sikhs, it seems like they claim to be owner of Punjabi and order others what to speak or not, I guess first of all this certain section of Sikhs need to get out of this Punjabi owning phobia.
So far in my life I have never met s Punjabi hindu who is born and brought up in Punjab and couldn't speak Punjabi, however his/her probability of being equally proficient in Hindi would be more than Sikhs , which I guess what irks a certain section of fundamental Sikhs. Why to mansplain others ? You are as much the inehritor of the language as is the other one, so why this condescending behaviour?
Regarding the debate of Hindus declaring their mother tongue as Hindi in 61 census was purely a political decision to fight against the demand of fundamental Sikhs of for a Punjabi suba, which apparently meant a Sikh majority state.
SHUT UP, I AM "MUSLIM PUNJABI A MAHAJIR" WHOSE FAMILY MIGRATED FROM "AMRATSER AND BATALS", WE STILL SPEAK PUNJABI. I ENCOURAGE MY CHILDREN TO SPEAK "PUNJABI", WHICH WAS FORCED ON THEM DURING "MUNAFIQ GEN ZIA" WHO IMPOSED "ISLAMIC ROTTEN URDU ON US", I LEFT KUWAIT BECAUSE OF THIS WHEN MY CHILDREN WERE STUDYING IN INDIAN SCHOOL)THEY ARE THE BEST).
DO NOT DIVIDE AND SEPARATE "PUNJABI SIKHS AND HINDUS", THEY ARE "OUR BLOOD", WE ACCEPTED ISLAM, BECAUSE WE WERE PERSUADED BY "SWORD", BEFORE OPENING YOUR "TRAP" READ HISTORY. THE MANSION WE GOT AFTER PARTITION FOR OUR CLAIM "BELONGED TO VERY RICH HINDU RAM CHAND". AND YOU "SHUT UP", AS YOU PEOPLE DIVIDED US. I LIVE PUNJABI HINDU AND SIKH EQUALLY AS I LOVE MY OWN MUSLIM BROTHERS. NOW TIME IS GONE "DIVIDE AND RULE", TELL YOUR LEADERS LIKE IK NIAZI ZANI AND MODI TO SHUT THEIR "TRAPS".
We should stop seeing languages through biased religious viewpoints! Punjabi is not Sikh Language, Hindi is not a Hindu Language & Urdu is not a Muslim Language.
There's a very large section of Punjabi Hindus who speak Punjabi with equal pride as our Sikh brothers. Lot of diverse & multi-religious communities own Hindi as a language. There are many Non-Muslims who speak, love & celebrate Urdu in India. So let's change our false notion that some languages are a monopoly of certain communities & religions. Languages do not carry labels of Religion on them!
@@kishwer-w9k You're being mistaken. Urdu is neither Islamic nor is a rotten language!
Its one of the richest & most vibrant of Indian languages and has been secular in its development & evolution, it was only later that Urdu's misperception as a language of a particular religious community started coming up. Urdu isn't a "one-religion" language inherently.
NAFIS or NAFIZ? Please correct yourself. Ask this question on Urdu keeping in view your poet Iqbal. Ask an English and French people about two different nations about origins of different languages within neighbouring areas. Your worry will be dispelled.
As a SINDHi i love my mother tongue ♥️ but instead of Sindhi i also understand other languages just like Urdu, English, Hindi, Gurmukhi so on
That's great. Is Sindhi being taught in schools in your area? How do you get to read Sindhi literature?
Much appreciated. But it's difficult to absorb and comprehend for our people
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Jinnah was a weirdo he addressed his audience in English.The audience couldn’t understand English.
You are wrong in saying that Bollywood scripts were written in Urdu some while ago you can cross check interviews of celebrities.
I have heard Bollywood actors talk about it, you’re welcome to verify, by the way by a while I don’t mean a couple of years
@ThePakistanExperience it may have been the case back when people could read urdu ie migrants from north/pak who worked in movies. Otherwise the languages have been urdu/hindi mixture but the script was hindi since writers couldn't write in Urdu, and/or actors/directors could read. now (since last 15+ years) it's completely English like we use text messages.
It is absolutely correct. Pre partition and a little afterwards film scripts were written in Urdu. In particular film songs employed the use of the Urdu language due to its poetical qualities. This was particularly the case as the film industry was very Muslim dominated. Lots of song lyricist such as Majrooh Sultanpuri, Sahir Ludhianvi, Josh Malihabadi etc came from a Hindustani/Urdu heritage. Films such as mughal e azam and Pakeeza are totally spoken in Urdu the latter also used the dialects of that region.
@@faree38green Urdu is still very much perceivable in dialogues & esp songs of Bollywood. However now Bollywood has become more globalised & cosmopolitan in regards to language as we see Punjabi, Haryanvi, Bihari, Gujarati, Rajasthani influences. But every now & then we come across a perfectly crafted Urdu song- take "Binte Dil" for instance or "Deewani Mastani".
Outside Bollywood, Urdu is a thriving language esp in Hyderabad, Aligarh & Bihar. And her Lucknow version spoken by the Lucknow elites is the most authentic one. Urdu should be given attention in her homeland- Uttar Pradesh!
@@virferind7946 I was referring to the use of Urdu pre and early post partition specifically in Bollywood. It probably was at it's zenith then.
I am from Lucknow, and belong to a very strong Urdu heritage and yes, Urdu is still a living language but post partition due to its assosciation with Pakistan, the usage is Urdu has been on the decline.I 100% support Javid Akhtar janab in reclaiming Urdu as our language and us being the original speakers! I love my mother tongue and the beauty it has gifted our Hindustan :)
Aj national language py issue ho rha ap logo ko .kl ko national dress py hoga !! Phir national animal phir bird phir game phir shaed national anthem py b issue hoga ????? Phir Pakistan ki existence py hi issue na ho tum logo ko????
I just hate this vid to be honest
Urdu is beautiful language and its connect Pakistan . As Pakistani your not punjabi or sindhi you should be proud of your one identity .
Regionalism is fanatic
Targeting north india muslim for urdu is not fair . North indians muslim are indians too . They share their culture with other people of various faith . Stop dividing people on the basis of language, culture and traditions .
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"this video is not in Tamil so you could've guessed that he's not from TN"! This essentially translates to 'Tamil people don't see English video'. Its your logic or a joke?
"Ignorant people assume things", scroll up there & see how many personal remarks you gave me out of your own assumptions, that displays your own ignorance as per your own logic.
I heavily apologized three times to all my Tamil brothers for the inadvertent mistake of using a demonym for them which I didn't know is offensive.
It was a healthy discussion, its not my narrative that Punjabi has three Prakrits and Sindhi & Kutchi are in same group! Your personal remarks are completely unacceptable!
I at least try reading articles & research paper, have you even read that?
Enough disrespect had been displayed by you towards Marathi people by calling them 'ignorant' twice & not apologizing even once! Yeah this is end!
Your personal remarks are slandering & you calling Marathi people as being 'ignorant' & 'audacious' is Racial Profiling.
@@virferind7946 Kutchi and Sindhi are both languages spoken in the region of Sindh, which is now part of Pakistan, as well as in parts of India. Kutchi is closely related to Sindhi and shares many linguistic similarities due to historical and geographical connections. Over time, Kutchi has been influenced by Sindhi, leading to some overlap in vocabulary and grammar. Additionally, many Kutchi speakers identify culturally with the Sindhi community, further blurring the distinction between the two languages. However, linguistically, Kutchi and Sindhi are considered separate languages, each with its own unique characteristics.
Sindhi and Kutchi are exactly
What haryanvi and Punjabi are !!
I can't help you more then this .
I'm not going to prove anything else to a narc
@@virferind7946 I don't make conclusions out of reading articles just prove certain narrative .
Sindhis demanding separate state in India that too in Jaisalmer and Barmer, Kutch is quite illogical as demographics matters more then emotional narratives .
@@virferind7946 I said to one ignorant Marathi and I say again he does not represent rest of Marathi whom I never mentioned. Even though he called me madrasi Babu in Marathi , bro could have used Anna which can be relate to TN
Atleast I called you Marathi mulga in Marathi that might be offensive to your ignorant mind that's why later you just said madrasi Babu . Grow up
پاکستان دی مادری زبان ھے پنجابی
@ThePakistanExperience Sindhi is the official language of Sindh, along with Urdu. So, what’s is this fuss all about? Karachi is the largest Urdu speaking city in the whole world. It is the only place where Urdu is thriving and still written in nastaliq. It is still the language of Ashraafs (whatever has remained of us), and we still are the only people who speak it with proper diction and use the Perso-Arabic words or phrases timely and accurately. A semi-educated MQM worker can speak Urdu far more eloquently than a Urdu loving Punjabi. We perceive it as a vestige of the late Mughal era, and an integral part of our Muslim heritage. It was declared the national language so that the people of different regions could communicate with each other, and it has served its purpose well. There is no other language that could have done it. The original intention was never to employ it as a tool for national unity. Stop making it an issue just to receive applause from the buthart lungis.
Pretty much contending bro! Karachi isn't the only place where Urdu is thriving; how about India's Lucknow, Hyderabad, Aligarh & Delhi? Lucknow is the heart of Urdu culture, Hyderabad has Hyderabadi Urdu film industry, Aligarh has its well known University and Delhi has Urdu promoting institutions like Qaumi Council! So they don't count??
Karachi might be the city with largest number of Urdu speakers for a city but India has more number of first language Urdu speakers than entire Pakistan! So as a country India is the largest Urdu speaking nation!
Did you never hear the language of Urdu speaking elites of Lucknow? That's the one most authentic & proper native Urdu!
Urdu is an Indian language, indigenous to western Uttar Pradesh & Awadh, its neither indigenous to Punjab nor to Karachi!
Urdu is classical colonial language. It helps us migrate easily to arabic which the language of Allah. Urdu should be enforced in Iran and Afghanistan also. 60% vocabulary of Urdu is arabic, 35% farsi and 5% words are Indian language leftovers like sanskrit. We need to ultimately purge Indian words from Urdu.
Urdu use 99% grammar and verbs from Sanskrit so how it migrates you tu arabic.
You are a Murkh
@@animetalksinhindi660The grammar is certainly Hindustani or Hindi, but vocabulary has certainly lot more Arabic and Farsi words. All languages evolve. Hindi is increasingly borrowing more words from Sanskirit whereas Urdu has borrowed more from Arabic, especially when it comes to Islam. In about 100 years, I think Urdu and Hindi would be vastly different.
@@QabilAGhor Urdu is part of Indo-Aryan language, and Hindi also
موجودہ مغربی پاکستان میں کشمیر سے گوادر تک اور قراقرم سے کراچی تک اردو لکھی پڑھی سمجھی اور بولی جاتی ہے۔ تمام علاقوں کے پاکستانی ایک دوسرے سے اردو میں ہی کمیونیکییٹ کرتے ہیں
ہندوستان اور پاکستان میں انگریزوں کی آمد کے بعد انگریزی اور اردو نے جتنی ترقی کر لی اتنی ترقی کسی زبان میں نہیں ہوئی۔
اب اردو عملی طور پر پاکستان کی قومی زبان بن چکی ہے۔ تمام ٹی وی چینل اردو میں چلتے ہیں حتی کہ پنجابی زبان کے چینل اپنا میں بھی اردو ہی استعمال ہوتی ہے۔ پٹھان ٹرک والے اپنا بل اردو میں لکھتے ہیں۔
زبانیں دنیا میں اسی طرح ڈیولپ ہوئی ہیں۔
دنیا کی سب سے زیادہ مستعمل زبان انگریزی کی تاریخ پڑھ لیں اس میں زیادہ تر الفاظ لاطینی زبان سے آئے ہیں۔ زبان کی ڈیولپمنٹ ایک ایوولیوشنری Evolutionary Process سے ہوتی ہے۔
پاکستان کے حوالے سے یہ بحث اب لاحاصل ہے کہ یہاں کی قومی زبان کون سی ہے، جیسے ایران کی فارسی ہے ویسے ہی پاکستان کی اردو اور ترکی کی ترکی ہے۔😊👍
Ye khabees humain bantna chahata hai.
Sorry, you absolutely wrong 👎🏿
He's right, Urdu is an Indian language. Its not native to any region of Pakistan!
ہر چیز پیٹرو ڈالر پر نہیں ڈالنی چاہیے ۔ فارسی میری امی نے سکول میں پڑھی تھی ۔ تب کوئی پیٹرو ڈالر نہیں تھا ۔ ہندوستان اور پاکستان کے مسلمان کا فارسی اور عربی سے گہرا تعلق تھا اور رہے گا۔
Sirji I am watching most of Pakistani TH-camrs just to listen URDU, and just for your information By Birtha I am Proud Marathi speaking person, Jai Hind
THEY ADAPTED URDU JUST BECAUSE IT WRITTEN LIKE ARABIC, THESE PEOPLE ARE OBSESSED WITH ARABIC.
Thought provoking and eye opening 🙏
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Please hit the like button if you think the national language of Pakistan should be JavaScript.
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My god wrong info even from a professor or whatever. 😅 Bengali isn’t close to devnagri script. It is in devnagri script. Dumb dumb dumb.
That's why we South Indians always against Hindi Imposition we were always against it
what is the history of saraiki language ? when it become a lanaguage ?
saraiki is a Conspiracy to divide Punjab. please correct this point in your video, rest of the video is good.
Beutifu analysis.
Heavy dose of RELIGION is the greatest problem of Pakistan.
Almost 58 countries of the have more than 1 national languages non of the country have foreign national language except Pakistan
It is not a foreign language. It was the common language of all Muslims of pre-Partition India.
In future, it will only exist in Pakistan.
@@QabilAGhor All the three statements are incorrect bro!
01 In context with present borders & Native Pakistani culture, Urdu is a foreign language to Pakistan having imported from Awadh & Rohilkhand of India,
02 It was not a common language of all Muslims, since even today in India only 5 crore Muslims out of 18 crore speak Urdu, meaning 12 crore Muslims speak some other language. Even if we count second language Urdu speakers amongst Muslims, there would still be groups in North East India & deep south with Muslims having no knowledge of Urdu.
03 No my brother, Urdu will stay. Urdu is inseparable from Indian culture.
Fun fact:Hindi and Urdu are same language.They've only a differce of writing scripts
Hindko jo is area ki basic language hy ise waja say is video may b zikar na howa
بہترین ویڈیو ہے
ہندکو اور ہندکووان کو بھی یاد رکھ لیا کریں شکریہ
Sure, imposing Urdu was never a great idea, but there is the practical problem of communication, for which a common language is required. Once again, you dived deep into academic arguments, which have definite merit, but ignored practical concerns. Anyone immigrating to Canada/UK, is required to sit for IELTS, not because English is being imposed, but because it is the language of communication in those countries, and knowledge of it is a practical need. Canada in fact has a second language, French, and if one has proficieny in that, they can immigrate to Quebec. As for what were they were doing before 1947, well, this exactly, Hindustani and/or English served as the common denominator.
It is beautiful how you went face into the point and still missed it - now tell me how Quebec would have reacted if they were told French will not be recognised and they would all have to speak in English now because Canada’s language is English?
True, theory is different from practice in most cases. Urdu was a necessity in this case to modernize and develop the country as a economic unity
This is a non-issue in Pakistan which is being exaggerated. Now Punjabi is just a spoken language with so many localized dialects. Our Punjabi is more similar to Urdu as compared to Indian Punjabi. We speaks Punjabi but write only in Urdu. Both are our own languages and our Identity.
The majority of Pakistanis do not speak or understand Urdu. Many languages in Pakistan and India don’t even exist in written form.
The majority of Pakistani punjabis who speak Urdu, do it with a Punjabi twang even if they claim to read or write Urdu. Many Urdu speakers don’t know the first thing about Pakistans history, army’s involvement or politics. They wouldn’t understand what politicians mean when they say “humaray sath ye kiya gaya” or who they’re referring to.
Meanwhile, there are people who don’t read or write Urdu who know more about Pakistans history and understand Pakistani politics better than those who speak Punjabi or Urdu because knowledge and understanding has nothing to do with language. Yes, there are also those who speak English fluently who don’t understand Pakistans history or politics.
If you are an ardent follower of General Zias Islamisation and you support that type of right wing nationalism and fascism, then you cannot claim that you understand the problem within Pakistans society.
There are people who have studied Law in Pakistans universities but have no clue what separation of powers is. How you can study Law and not know that, is beyond comprehension. Giving examples of Pakistani journalists and lawyers, who studied in Pakistani universities but had parents who studied from prestigious universities in UK is not a fair comparison. Their parents had an understanding of concepts which aren’t taught in Pakistani universities. This doesn’t mean that overseas Pakistanis have any concept of what a democracy is because many actually don’t but you get the point.
“Ye leta parha hai, letay aoh, detay jana, etc is Punjabi translated into Urdu. It’s not Urdu. Nobody talks like that except people who speak Punjabi. Urdu being imposed has done nothing for anyone whatsoever.