Democracy vs Dictatorship - - Stolen Elections 1977 to 2008 Shehzad Ghias -
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- The second part of the Stolen Election Series.
In this episode, we look at the elections held in Pakistan 1977 to 2008, how Zia-ul-Haq took over after the 1977 elections, how elections were manipulated through the 90s and how Musharaf derailed democracy again.
Was Corruption Institutionalized under Zia-ul-Haq?
Is the Pakistani awaam jahil?
Have military dictators been popular in Pakistan?
Find out this and more!
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Love this series you are doing. Keep up the good work Shehzad.
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Very good and unbiased analysis by a young man
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I have obsessively watched every video on your channel. Great work! Congratulations on your 200k!
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14:35 I searched wiki pedia and found this :
In 1988, Khan founded the Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institute of Engineering Sciences and Technology .
The university was established with the financial support from the BCCI
Arey woh Cricket wala BCCI nahi 😂
Bank of Credit and Commerce International
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It were Pakistani rogue elements like Abidi who mesmerised the UAE rulers to establish BCCI. to play foul with Pakistanis money who were working in Arab countries. That bank was a big scam for the accounts of account holders to issue loans against their accounts.
Arey Bhai wo Agha Hasan Abedi ki BCCI aajkal ke Abraj group ka precursor tha.😅
All Military Dictators destroyed Pakistan but Zia ul Haq Kaana Dajjaal was above all, source of All evils 😈
He was a fatal combination of Iblees and Yazeed .
Well done Shahzad
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Shehzad , love your work , you give me hope in this hopeless situation , ❤ thanks and always keep shining
Mard-e-Momin Mard-e-Haq Zia Ull Haq
@@ThePakistanExperience Make video on 2024 election
We’ve made 2
great analysis better than renowned news channel analyst
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The bravery and emotion is commendable! Seems waqas alam's podcast shook you a bit. You looked quite emotional in that one too!
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Excellent bht maloomati & tareekhi sahi video hi, baatay talkh Likan sach hain, shame on military dictator
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You have no idea shehzaad, the great work you are doing for the country. ❤ This video will educate generations for a long time to come.
Unless they ban youtube lol!
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Jiyo Shahzad Bhai Love you, what an analysis ❤❤
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I LOVE TO WATCH THIS PROGRAM
Shehzad is playing a great role in imparting informal education to large number of youth and thinking people in Pakistan. Shehzads this series may greatly help in understanding the history of Pakistan in a proper perspective. Thinker, writer, broadcaster and columnist Hasan Nissar says “ tum tarikh ko musk karoge to taarikh tumhe musk karegi “ . Well it’s an accepted statement world-over . It may take another 25 to 30 years for Pakistan Establishment to degenerate and destroy itself in an internal power struggle , inertia and choked financial resources.
Nevertheless most importantly it should be thought how to bring a semblance of political reconciliation and advent of result oriented education. Hard times ahead indeed
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As always, brilliant work.
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I'm so proud of u,u r educating the punjabis and the people who blame us pashtoons and balochis for their hate towards dictator and army ,as army slaughter us for money that provides the need for rest of pK ,so I'm hopeful that if we come on same page we can make Pakistan,safe and great
Sir who was ayub khan nd yahiya both were pashtoons stop making it about punjab only
Shehzad excellent analysis. I hope you don't have your ISI knocking at your door. All the best!
On another note, Musharaf is from my city. And Zia my university. Very unfortunate though to have them as my super seniors. But then, I, was not born when Mushraf fled his Darya Gunj house or Zia graduated from St Stephen's College. That's the saving grace. Good we had them out of city, university and country.
Take care!
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Kaisa maal despatch kiya Bhai, Dilli sey Zia aur Musharraf! Aur haan Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw aur Gen Jagjit Singh Aurora Lahore se import karke hisaab baraabar kiya !😁😅
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Behetreen video. Need more solo videos like this!
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Like Cassandra, your warnings about past mistakes go unheeded by those in power. Blinded by arrogance, they continue policies that have harmed Pakistan, repeating them even today.
Sad but true
Mistake ALERT ⚠️
In 2008, Durrani acknowledged "distributing money to the alliance against Benazir Bhutto" in the 1993 Pakistani general election.
Well done shahzad to summarise the follies of military establishment. They should know that only rules of law and the sanctity of the constitution can save this country from destruction.Every military officer should have to learn his job description before taking any action.
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Ahh Pakistan, where civil/military bureaucracy nexus conquer natives on daily basis just to one day hear a farangi say "assi vee tussi ho"
1:46 Ek Qabar Do Aadmi ?
Andaz apna apna:
Do Dost Ek pyale mein Chai piyenge
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@@ThePakistanExperience sorry Bhai , serious topic mein joke yaad aa gaya 🤭
Acha tha
Mere desh meh BJP ne saare choro ko shamil kar liya bhai,
Humare ya toh tumhare jaisa haal ho gaya hain.
Ajit Pavar, Chaghan Bhujbal, Praful Patel, bade bade s¢∆m karke clear ho jaa rahe hain after joining the ruling party.
Shows BJP is no different, infact wrong on all scales.
Ye haal toh humare yaha bhi ho Gaya Hain.
Oh feel for u brother... such a democracy like india is being hijacked by bjp ....
It's not the same, Pakistan has 3 ruling power houses Feudal Lord, Army and Political party where 3 of these parties fight like Cats and Dogs to seize the entire power. Hence that causes instability.
In India doesn't matter how corrupt you are or Criminal records you have. If you win Elections you are the king now whether you do good work or Abuse the power It's upto the Elected representative but We don't have multiple power corridors and have Separation between Judiciary, Legislation and Executive. Hence India might be corrupt but far more stable cause there's only one party or Individual has the power.
In India Politicians abuse their power whereas in Pakistan it's a total mess and continuous 24×7 live Game of thrones.
There's a difference
And including such corrupt leaders is the worst thing
I support BJP because of Idealogy and such inclusions will cause dilution in Party's Idealogy
Jinnah will be ashamed 😔
Jis din shariyat aa gayi Pakistan main...sabse pehle is jaise bhai log he merenge, who are capable of using the mind.
Bina secularism k democracy chal hi nhi sakti.
Democracy literally has the power to undo secularism bro what about if everyone votes to make it an Islamic state will that be undemocratic?you don't know what ur talking about
@farrukhnadeem_ konse eslami mulk me democracy h jara batana.jinme thodi bahut democracy h bhi vo bhi puri tarah eslamik mulk nhi h.eslam me democracy naam ki koi chidiya h hi nhi.
Ppp remained a consistent victim of establishment in all elections throughout the history. Rest all parties had the establishment support in different time frames.
Truth, reconciliation and civilian supremacy.
plz held a podcast with mansoor ali khan
The best narration , urs almost all points r correct, Likan mujhe Ghulam ishaq k corrupt nahi Lagta I may be wrong but hamisha sunta tha os time keh he honest
Yehi toh jhooti tareekh parh ayee jati hay
Asgher khan petition mai Supreme Court kee 2012 kee ruling parhayen it shows you the evidence of how Ghulam Ishaq Khan distributed cash to politicians
@@ThePakistanExperience thnx for good saying
Pakistan Studies - truth edition
Gem 💎❤
You should invite General Chishti (FIL Bajwa) for a podcast
Love watching your podcast from India
Just a funny suggestions why don't pakistan rename martial law Pakistan only democracy 😂
Yogi Baba solution zindabad 😂😂😂😂
Love you shehzada❤
Lal masjid k baare me bhi ek vedio banaye...❤
Good job..bro..❤
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Pakistan is a hard country itna sab honay kai bawajood this country is surviving beshak on a ventilator but sansy chalrhi h.
very nicely explained.... 1 podecast establishment py kren k what is meaning of establishment in pakistan.... plz ye hamary han properly defined nhn hy... ye kon hn? civilian, burucrate, army, politicians or mixed hn....
Please consider doing podcasts on political parties too. Although PPP has been a victim, it’s a family owned party with internecine war worthy of a Netflix series. The rest are no saints either. It would help understand what they are god at, when have the masses been taken for a ride, etc. difficult, yes. Be careful.
Sir ap k alfaz ak Asa weapon hai jo takat walo ki deewar py qari zarb laga rha ha
Zia ul Haq was the most failed Leader of Pak.
Good work
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Politician aapas me jitne lade mare democracy me khas fark nhi padta h lekin jab ye army or isi ko sath leke ek dusre par atteck karte h tab ye khud to Bach jate h lekin democracy barbad ho jati h.
Isn't it ironic, keh jis science-daan, Dr. Abdus Salam, ka naam bhe naheen lae saktay, un ka naam aap nae bhe naheen liya. Would that be the threshold you don't want to cross?
We’ve discussed him multiple times on the podcast
@@ThePakistanExperience array bhai ragar naheen raha, husn e ittifaq biyaan ker raha hoon.
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Love your videos. But they are so depressjng 😭
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Humeri history hay hee depressing
Saare elections me dhandli hui to ye desh tumhara hai kya ?
bhai mien to indian hun fir mujh in becharon ko dekh kr dukh q hora h
@@LovelyBarn-bp4tjpakistan me hum kabhi jayenge e ni😅😂😂
@@claymore993 video record krle bhai duniya mien camera aa chuka h ab khudka bhi njr aajayega tujh .tere phone m bhi hoga
تاریخ پاکستان میں واحد ایم آر ڈی کی تحریک ہے جو ملٹری کی حمایت کے بغیر چلی
@@claymore993 محترم آپ ذرا بتائیں تو کونسی تحریک اور ہیں جو اس پیمانے پر چلائی گئی جس اہم آر ڈی۔اہم آر ڈی فوج کی حکومت کے خلاف ایک تحریک تھی نہ کہ فوج کے خلاف اپنا یہ مغالطہ درست فر ما لیں
@@claymore993 اس تحریک میں کتنے لوگ جیل گئے کتنے کو پھانسی ہوئی کتنے کو کوڑے لگے کہاں کہاں بمباری ہوئی وہ تحریک نہیں تھی ایک الیکشن مہم تھی کچھ کچھ تحریک میں نے بھی پڑھ رکھی ہے محترم 50 سال عمر کے اسی صحرا گردی میں گزارے ہیں ویسے بن مانگے مشورہ کا شکریہ
Bhai urdu me mat type kro,
Hindustani viewers kaise smjhege...
Shehzad Bhai ki aadhi Zindagi disclaimer denay may guzar jaati hay
Sir please make programs about creation of paksitan and voilence and usking religion card during it, when n where voilence start n which party was involve, n 2.5 million people died because of partition of for partition
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tuum modi ka photo use nhi karoge tb tumhra itna hi view rahega ,modi ko gali do aur pasia kamao ,wahi tumhra talent hai
First time u sound speaking like an intellectual and not a liberal aunty. 😊
Islam main democrecy haraam hye to Islamic mulk pakisthan mayn kaise aayega re democrecy😂😂😂😂
Ye wala election bhi too army ne jeeta
You can't be making this pod cast sitting in your country? Are you?
I am in Karachi
Are Bhai bhut depressing ho gya hai ...ttp ke leader ka podcast lao 😊
yaar Election purpose kya hai, it's waste of money, time
Democracy naan ki
Dictatorship kam ki 😂
It is good to paint the full spectrum of election manipulations that have taken place in Pakistan, but we do not have concrete and foolproof evidence to support the earlier ones. The current 2024 elections have a lot of documentary evidence and cannot be neglected or put aside (mainly because of its social-media support). Focusing on the Feb 08, 2024 elections should be done and that is the only way to dislodge Pakistan's Army illegal stranglehold over power and to empower the Constitution of Pakistan and give justice and fair-play its due state. Discussing the previous ones (with no evidence for obvious reasons) dilutes the current struggle for democracy and should be avoided at all costs. A lot of what you had said in today's podcast lacks credible evidence and thus may have little traction. It is unfortunate that we do not have evidence for previous election manipulation, hence focusing on the current with credible evidence is the way to go to uproot the evil system in vogue. Pakistan can only progress and prosper when Pakistan Army takes the back seat...we do not have any other option.
Nothing I’ve said lacks credible evidence. It has all been documented. Videos nahee hay obviously bus
U have better knowledge than me,one question. pakistan is in paresh position from all corners still u point on india.and drag india in all our discussion. We don't discuss Pakistan. If a developed nation gives advice that is ok you yourself is in bad shape and giving advice on india
Dig deeper into 77 elections you were too superficial
Shehzad with due respect I disagree with you a bit on that point ky awam boht samjhdar rahii h hamari.
Dekhain Mera limited knowledge ho Sakta h but I think ya sari battle rahii to "ashrafia"ki he ha,Wo chahy polititions hon ya judiciary ho ya military establishment etc.
Aj bhe aap dekh lein agr establishment ky khelaf vote diya ha awam ny Pti ko then it is not a good deal na ky ab Imran Khan Kya anti establishment ho jay ga"no".
Awam kiun student politics ky lia ,apny rights ky lia,Jo aik social contract h between awam and the contract with the state uski taqmeel ky lia kiun nhe nilkalti.
Imran,Nawaz,zardari......They are the beneficiary of establishment and Jo aj gharaon ma ,mahfilon ma discussion ka level h it's very poor.
People are not ready to discuss political history.They are just divided into parties.
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I don't know why we are obsessed with Butto and want to glorify him, He would have lost 1977 election badly, I saw those elections and what Butto did to win was shameful (those election were even worse than 2024 election as I saw both of these elections). Please don't justify Butto, please, he is responsible for current situation in Pakistan (with all its problem) not Zia and I can debate on it with any one.
lets debate sir
Some free advice from your eastern neighbour :
A Politician , however bad , is better than a Military Dictator
@@shatnermohanty6678 In Pakistan Politician, political parties and establishment (include Judiciary as well) are different side of same coin. Establishment help politician to come back after their "worse" performance in Government, look now, Imran is being clean in Jain and Nawaz Sharif and company, Zardari and company is being cleaned out of Jail. From inside they all are "ONE UNIT". (I wish you can join their "evening parties" and see for yourself what I am saying).
@@arthurkane4859 what to debate, have you seen Nawaz, BB and Musharraf working?, I have seen them and their ugly faces which they hide from public.
I don’t need to debate anyone, I am quoting from credible sources, what are your sources for your claims
Why did you stop at 2008?
It is 30 years span analysis.
Baaqi abhi 30 years ni hue
Part 3 will cover 2008 to 2024
Pakistan ke papulation 22 million ha kya??
Yeh pakistani channel pe Flipkart ka Ad kaise aa gaya? 😂
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Peoples party nain mulk ki peeth main chura ghonpa hay sindhion nain Pakistan ka bura haal kar dia hay athaarween tarmeem say pehlay bataya jaata tha keh mulk main soobai khudmukhtari say sab khush ho jaen gay aur azadi ki tehreekain khatam ho jaengi ab haalat yeh hay keh har sooba gharoor o takabur ka shikar ho kar Pakistan ko jootay ki thokar par rakhta hay, karachi ko dabanay kay liay steel mills cheen li pia cheen lia , pia main siasi bhartian saari peoples party kay clerk saaray jahaz kharab baytahasha accident, kisi sindhi ko kia haq hay fauj pay tanqeed karnay ka bas yehi pait main dard hay keh fauj hamain Pakistan say alag honay ki ijazat nahin daiti, aisi baatain muzamil ki kisi nain nahin suni to aapki kon sunay ga, magar aap fikar na karain woh fauj baykhabar nahin hay woh kabhi bhi aapko maharashtra gujrat main shamooliat ki ijazat na degi
Kyaa baat kartey ho yaar..!!
Dhaandli kab aur kahaan nahin hoti.
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Maslaa aur koshish niyat ki honi hai ji, insaaniyat bataur..!!!
Intellectual dishonest
Ohh,
Really this guys is serious about on it.
I know him.
This guy is literally boring.
Ha has no sense
This guys is not fair
So no-one take serious this man.
And u are yuthiya with no sense no self analysis... Just a Robot listening to Propaganda
Bro wants to say establishment BAD. We get it. Itny bachay bhi nhi politicians k victims rahien hon, they are the real villians when you think how in every dictatorship they all were real beneficiaries. No matter what it is, democracy or dictatorship, we always had the same people sucking the resources out from this poor country into their pockets
Bfa
My 1 year of study in geopolitical of India and Pakistan i have come to understand that Pakistan people are control by Pakistan military and isi after America fund money to bring disability in Afghanistan for Russia
It was way before! After 1947 it was always under their shadow!
@@triggeredillumi138 they got 100 % power after America funding 1980
Just one correction - Its not just the military, rather its the civil-military nexus. The military's lap has never been empty, from Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto to the current Bhutto and co.