@@Xdev1lG00D Yes, it is as I had said. Hyundai has another dct, that's a 7 speed with two concentric dry clutches, that is almost as slow as manual shifting.
Unless you're on a track, there is absolutely no reason to use that DCT in manual mode for straight line racing. It's faster letting the car do it. Also I always hit the NGS right before I hit the pedal, not a bit before hand. Seems to work better that way. Just my experience so far with my Elantra N.
I have one, and I be with you, in the straight line don't need a manual mode, and that is true about the NGS is right before hit the pedal, also I don't like to used the lunch control.
The Type R's turbo also pulls more at a higher RPM. The Elantra N has more torque and HP at a lower RPM, you could see it on that race where the Elantra took the launch but the CTR was slowly catching up
@@gordonharris5788 well to be fair its a lot harder to launch a manual properly/consistently compared to a DCT. But i would agree the type R makes power up top. Having said that the N still traps 107mph in the 1/4
@@nighthawk0077 launch on type r is shit , i have one and cannot launch it hard you get wheel hop and if you keep you break something , so youhave to let go and apply throttle again , my fk2 lifting in 1st gear run 13.00 quarter mile and 2.2 60f with a trap of 112mph. im sure if it could launch properly would get down to 12.4 sec ( mine has bolt ons an a map nothing major)
Did they not even use N mode for the exhaust clip? Sounds like normal mode. Also, the answer to how the MT does against the type R, the answer is: Worse.
Yeah, unfortunately it looks like the 'Normal' mode exhaust clip was used. We recorded N mode as well, but I guess brevity was an editing consideration lol
@@n2productions Listening to the video, it sounds like normal mode was used, I didn't hear any of the N's signature pops, nor did the exhaust really have the aggressiveness that N mode usually gives it. It's obviously a video and won't sound like it does in person, but it just didn't sound right.
@@SamCarLegion yes but one has 6 gears the other one has 8 and is automatic, the automatic is obviously easier for the driver side, at the drag strip with the DCT would you use paddle shifters?
See the funny thing is type r runs 22,23 pounds boost. Stock both cars now the Elantra n is. 15lbs. Boost. See what happens when the Elantra n runs 23lbs boost out come will be. Totally different type r is over rated and over priced
I bet the N feels faster in daily driving conditions. I used to own a type r and it only felt fast on top. City driving it was a dog and no fun. The N seems more fun.
The N series is run by executive engineer for bmw M series cars. As anyone knows the M series are not designed to be the fastest cars but fun daily drivers. Speed does not translate into fun, if you want fast get a tesla roadster it will destroy both of these speed wise
I have a 21 sgp type r. Stock i ran a 2018+ mustang gt (460hp) from 80 to 130 mph and matched his speed till we saw traffic ahead. I dont condone that kind of driving but it interesting how fast the type r is in 6th gear. The aero is truly functional.
These videos are a joke. If you guys haven’t watched Best Motoring where they use real race drivers to test the cars then y’all missing out. They guys need to learn how to drive lol
@@SamCarLegion every vid i have seen so far the N wins the dig race against the type R..AS FOR roll races between the two...including yours the type R HAS WON 3 AND THE N 2 RACES..all of them very close
When doing the rolls, your NGS feature is already off by the time you get to speed since you press it so early. Also, I believe the manual is gonna keep up MUCH better in the rolls compared to the DCT auto. Still crazy how much car you're getting for under 35k an with a few minor upgrades it's gonna be hard to stop.
What do you mean when the Dodge SRT4 came out it was $1995 and would probably spank both those cars or give um a run for the money 13.6 at 99mph with a good driver and to a bad driver at 14.0 1/4 mile time. They want us to pay for garbage what a joke
I have the 1.6t 2017 sport and best car I’ve ever owned looking to get a n now 60k and just tires and brakes you know no problems at all I’ll never own another car without a dct
@Adam Chapman Thanks for your opinion... I already posted mine. Every major vehicle brand has had the same or more in recalls in the past couple of years. Look at Subaru for January of this year. 198k+ for trans failure. Hyundai/Kia still offer 100k mile 10 year powertrain warranty that they honor. No one else does. If you don't like them, don't buy them...
The Type R does have more top end you can tell in the second run it was catching up even from a dig it will win in a longer run still the new Elantra N is impressive comon Honda give the Type R a Dct or a ZF transmission now even Huyndai is doing a great job now with there new line up with Dct transmission option
@@Frank-hg9rl they will never put a Cvt in there performance models the regular integra gets a Cvt whenever the type s comes out it will not have a Cvt that's for sure same will be the case here
@@FB6K24Z7 This is not from me, i saw/heard it from the New-York auto show. Good if it is not right, but i'm sure i heared it well hope you're right...
@@oemj7147 lmao from a dig in a straight line, who cares, from a roll the Type R still has the fastest 60-120 time in the segment. Also, you're comparing a car that came out in 2017 to a car that literally just came out. The old CTR is faster in every regard, track etc. Now if you want to shift gears with a paddle like an idiot sure it'll beat it in a 1/4 from a dig. Same reason an automatic Mustang beats manual Mustang, so what. But whats crazy is that we are even still comparing the FK8 Type R to all these new cars that just came out, to be fair, if you want apples to apples, we will have to compare the 23 Type R, and when it comes out, and it too, will take the world by storm, just like the FK8 did.
Why are you LYINY? The MK8 GOLF T R Drstroyed the type R on a roll. From 6-120. And it further destroyed it from a dig giving it a 10 second lead. Stop lying
And nobody cares about track. You are likely to use 0-60, 1/4 and trap speed etc as performance metric than track. 90% of type R owners them self don’t track. Car and driver has chosen the previous GOLF R over the type R many times. The golf R is the king of hatches
@@sharktin240 🤣🤣🤣🤣 said NOONE EVER, nobody in their right mind has ever picked the slow azz Golf over the Type R, and there is NO VIDEO of the manual Golf beating the CTR from a roll. Not to mention we aren't even comparing apples to apples, you are comparing the BRAND NEW GOLF to a 5 year old CTR (P.S. the CTR blistered the old Golf R in every aspect) wait until the new one comes out, and it won't even be a competition
@@Out2theIndoors its faster around suzuka according to Honda, but only by a second. And who knows what tires they tested them both on. It is bigger so the fact that it might be just as fast is impressive.
@@WhitMX-5 2023 has the same engine as right now, if they were going to add power to it, they'd have bumped up the new SI a little so the gap stayed the same, instead of reducing the SI's power.
The races are pretty close. I also cant decide which car won the "who is uglier" contest. I dont care how quick they are, I wouldnt be caught dead driving either one.
Yessss Sam thank you for this video! Both cars are fantastic and fun to drive in different ways. EN with the dig and the CTR has the clear better top end and roll advantage. Would love to bring my DCT up across the border here from Michigan sometime to do some videos with you.
Need both to race at the Nurburgring, that is where the Civic will shine. We all know the Civic does fairly well there so would be interest to see how far behind the Elantra is to give more of an idea how much better the Civic is as a sports car.
@@trenton.tchannel1810 honestly, mop the floor is an unfair thing to say. Elantra N doesn’t really deserve being undermined like that. Specially when it’s as competent as it is. What I meant was I expect the next Type R to further that gap. But again, Elantra N did very well.
@@msrr1303 the new and old type r was made to break track record, the elantra N was made for being a fun car in the street while already being a track focused car.
@@msrr1303 I guess the real question is, is the performance difference of the new Type R going to be worth an additional 10-12K? I'd be surprised if you're able to find one for less than 50k.
Both great cars. At 3:00 though, that reaction time is long enough to honestly cut the whole race. Not much learned there. I initially thought maybe it was the car's throttle response but you can still see the brake lights on so it's driver error. Loved hondas forever but the Elantra is out for blood in this segment.
Kind of tough to compare based on this vid because the Type R got a head start first race but then made a sandwich on the 1-2 shift at 4:27 (you can watch the palpable loss of acceleration the R had on the way to second at 3:57). Then the first roll seems solid but the second the Type R really got the jump at 6:23. So it's like combine that with the whole NGS button and launching business, and it seems like a race would be better had between drivers with a little more seat time in each car. But I guess that also kind of represents the real world if you encounter one another on the streets (of Mexico haha). Electronics are finicky to manage, shifts get f'd up, pacing get jumped, you kick yourself for riding the rev limiter, etc. Would love to see an on-track comparison and also how these cars times will compare at autocross this summer (I think they are in the same class to boot). My friend with an Elantra N tells me it loves to playfully oversteer and is a handful, but a good handful when the back end likes to slide a bit and it's practically yelling at you to mash the throttle! My R stays delightfully neutral even when the laws of physics say it shouldn't.
@@sidelingscroll Yes, I think it's safe to say our buddy Sam (is that his name?) can't drive very well. Those brake lights at 3:00 when the CTR is already gone is hilarious. And the missed shifts, oh man.. Yikes. Sammy had a bad day.
Seems like a drivers race between these two cars however the N has better 1/4 mile times on paper from what I'm seeing in other videos (stock vs stock).
@@g0d182 no…I think you should watch the vid again. There were only two roll races- the one with owner was super fucking close, Bc he properly took off, Sam just fucked up his roll race
@@jacobdicicco2044 The 60mph roll race when the stock type R finally gets full power shows it wofflestomping the N - buslengths gap - 3rd gear 60 will destroy an N lol - thats the Rs roll for sure
More HP + 6 speed manual + rolling race = civic type r Type r is actually fast in rolling race because it's more easy to gain power than a full stop drag race.
it's not really the HP difference as you can tell on many dyno vids. But it is definitely a power to weight ratio for sure, the type r is a good bit lighter.
@Bry Zeer that's the point. Compare manual to manual, auto to auto. When the trans are different its just another variable. Also dcts are automatics, no need for "auto". There's a reason some sports cars only come stick. Kinda wish the veloster n didn't get an automatic if they had the elantra n in the pipeline
@Bry Zeer it's a super car. Sports cars would be like a miata to a supra. In this case, the supra has an automatic. Or the hot hatches that mostly came in stick only, think sti, Evo, focus rs. Or dedicated sports cars like the s2000 which is only available as stick. There are sporty and great performing vehicles with automatics, and there are less than great automatics. You'd be hard pressed to tell me a charger scatpack (which shares the transmission with the supra) is a 4000 lb sports car.
@Bry Zeer bro Google something. No one calls dct cars dct. They are called automatic. Look up that gtr that you bring up "6-speed automatic". There's nothing wrong with an automatic like you make it seem but a 911 is hardly a sports car nowadays either. The cars you talk about being "sports cars" are not meant to be over 100k. A mustang gt? Sports car. A gt500? Not a sports car. Golf gti? Not a sports car, it's a hot hatch. Idk why you think sports car means fast? Miata and brz are not fast but are the pinnacle of daily driver sports cars. Porsche 718 is a sports car In manual or auto. If you can't drive stick that's fine, but it's not an excuse to classify whatever you want as a sports car
@Bry Zeer civic sis are not much faster than a stock civic anyways. But I'd call a civic si a sports call 10/10 times over a r35 gtr or new nsx since those are supercars (luxury and performance focused)
Both FWD asian sports sedans made by companies that start with the letter H. They have different tech deep into the tune, there's no such thing as apples to apples with brands but people will be comparing these cars. Honda decided to stick with a 6 speed manual technology, but we all know manuals are going the way of the dinosaur (even though we all love rowing through gears around the windy country roads).
@@mtDNA_Refresh The engine bogs down and even though i has more gears with closer ratios than the Civic, it is taking a huge hit on the acceleration race. I get it, Honda is faster, but not that much. You can listen to the engine note if you think it's the editing
Damn! The Korean car market is killing it. This is coming from a Japanese car lover. The Type R may have won the runs, but I can't deny that the Elantra N was right on its rear bumper. I never thought I'd say the day when Hyundai would fail to remain cordial on the raceway.
@@NSUScooter Isn't there a class action lawsuit against Hyundai & Kia for excessive oil usage? Plus there's the whole spontaneous combustion issue that continues to plague the brands, and let's not forget engines randomly losing power and dying for no good reason. Yeah really top equality stuff.
I mean the type r is quite a bit more expensive so it shouldn't lose at all. And just seeing the n brand do digs quicker than the type r is crazy. There just isn't a better performance car on the market for the price than the VN and EN. Can't wait to see the new type r though.
The type r has a msrp very similar to the Elantra n what are you talking about? I specked one today on Hyundai website and it was around 36k msrp. So what a 2k difference?
The first launch was a gift to Honda ... I would say study the potential of the cars before testing and publishing them. the second launch went well. the launch from 100km / h, certainly done with the hyundai under torque or with a high gear.
Yea if that DCT in the Elantra is anything like the one in my wife's Forte GT it's really hard to get a good launch out of it. Smooth shifting once you're going but very sluggish from the get go.
@@j.t.553 Talked about it in another comment but my wife's only complaint is that the DCT doesn't have a smooth power delivery at all when you're on/off the throttle. Basically feels like the car is always stuck in sport mode with sharp/snappy shifts. You won't win any races in it but it's not a slouch by any means. 6 speed may be the best way to go
And this is only in a straight line. Take into consideration the Type R performance around the track and we can see why it is the benchmark to beat overall in this segment. The engineering of the car is impressive.
@Adam Chapman Think whatever u want. Type R may be faster only on the straight road haha. On the track? Tell Type R to beat veloster n first! Now, whats the real shit box?
@@NoName-b5k1e LOL the urge to find and kick your face in for saying that, whether your joking or not you did not just say the Hyundai will beat the Honda on a track😂. Maybe you got it mixed up for a straight road Vs a track? But even then the Hyundai will and forever be inferior…. There’s a reason why Hyundai is marked as one of the worst brand to own. Although, they are stepping it up recently. Just not enough. Thank you for the laugh 🤣
I'm sorry but this guy does NOT know how to use the DCT auto Elantra N the right way! 1- Leave the car in FULL auto! Don't use the paddle/stick shifter! Car is MUCH faster without your help. 2- Hit the gas first, THEN press the overboost button! I 30 rolled the same stock Civic Type R and was AHEAD of him! Please redo this with someone who knows how the Elantra N works...🤦🏽♂️
@@Jcastro9444 roll only. Type r greatest improvement needs to be the launch and wheel slip off the line. Dct wins this hand down. And yes, I prefer the type r..
@@Jcastro9444 I always say it's more interesting not that it gets gapped but how fast that gap happens. If it slowly pulls away it's ok but if it's pulls away very fast then holy damn it's fast.
The lad that drove the N line first is not a good driver please. His response times are ALWAYS SLOW. Not a good judge of the cars because I can’t trust what I just watched!!!!
Hey Sam, you're the man. Great one again. DCT has proved to be faster again! The type R is a fast car, no dought about it. Style wyse? I'm not a fan of that style, but some do...How much more $$$ compare to the Elantra N? And the 5 years waranty even if you take it the track, that's why a lot of guys will go for the N...
Did u watch a different race?? The type r won everything but 1 race from the dig, and trust me the type r owner is working way harder to shift. that gap was huge on the roll go civic😎
The N is equal or even a bit faster. I honestly feel the N needs better drivers lol. When racing straight line there is no reason to shift the car yourself.. Just launch control and go.. As far as the roll races. Drop the N down into 2nd (30 roll) and 3rd (60 roll) and just floor it and have the car do the rest of shifting. The manual N won't be faster than the dct N either.
All I can say is, for being 200 lbs heavier and about 6 grand cheaper, the Hyundai kicked butt! Took the launch despite the Honda starting slightly earlier. Hyundai is for real.
So I have video evidence of 2 buddies of mine one has an elantra N and the other type r both stock and they did a 50 to 150 and the elantra N was in front and the type r driver could row gears 🤷🏽♂️
On Run 2, did the Elantra N driver use the NGS button -- it doesn't look like it. Also, at launch, was traction control turned off and was high RPM rev around 2300?
@@SamCarLegion Thanks for confirming, Sam! For the Roll 3.... it looks like the NGS button was activated prior to launch?? Per Hyundai, NGS is suppose to be activated when in motion and not prior to launch.
Finally, a video that I've been waiting for. Thank you, Sam! Bravo! Another great video and great match-up between the Elantra N vs the Civic Type-R. Amazing results. I can see you having trouble with the initial launch of the Elantra N.... Hyundai designed its own DCT and it does not like hard launch of its transmission. Probably to maintain its longevity/reliability. Also, when driving in a straight line, no need to do a manual shift on a DCT. Regardless, great job on the friendly matchup. For under $35k, the Hyundai Elantra N is a lot of car for the money. Respect to the Civic Type-R... a legend and great car.
I agree completely. I love both companies and both are great cars, but they both look terrible to me lol. Now the Veloster N.......that thing looks awesome, would wayyyyy rather have that over the Elantra N! Though either would be better than my rather subdued basic 2013 Elantra GT lol (still like it, has good styling and is comfortable)
@@NiirTheRaccoon I had a sense that the Elantra GT was a good car but hadn’t driven one. The veloster n struck me as less than the sum of its parts so I bought a civic si. I like understated, though for some it may be too conservatively styled
@@stms4411 Understandable, I am just not a fan of Honda's newest styling really, and some of Hyundai's is not great either. I just think the Veloster N would be perfect for me haha. I will never have one though lol
You should try a Forte GT 6MT with a racechip. The chip adds 50hp and 50torque. Roughly. Really wakes up the car. And it looks fairly subtle and tame. I suspect traction might be a problem though, as it's lacking a diff.
I guess I'm getting old. Push this button then push this button then push this button and you are in the correct mode. What happened to rolling up to a red light and then hitting it?
@@sciencesold_ yea but it’s a 10 speed vs the Elantra (8 speed) and the accord 2.0 has slept a lot of cars tbh, I still think it would be a decent match up
@@slumpeddcrew145 The Accord beat out a lot of cars that it already had power on, or had similar power. The EN being able to almost keep up with the CTR means it would smoke the Accord.
Gotta give props to Hyundai….The N division is building quality cars at a great price point. People love to bash them…..but they keep on getting better.
@Adam Chapman I bought my '12 Genesis Coupe 3.8 R-Spec brand new in 2011. I've had ONE serious problem with it in all these years (and I drive hard). When I did have the issue, I took it to the dealership and they fixed it under warranty with zero hassle. Maybe I just got lucky, but I have no complaints about Hyundai quality.
@Adam Chapman they get 100k miles warranty I don't know what you smoking but those are great cars. I own 2018 elantra sport and is a blast to drive it. not like my older 07 bmw 335i but gets similar vibe.
@@treyvon4444 yah! 0-60mph or quarter mile doesn't mean anything , as it doesn't release a vehicle full potential power and speed. Top end speed is where you can see just how fast a car really is.. but I know most people can't do top end speed on the interstate.
I have a Golf R stage 2 tuned and my buddy has a stage 2 Type R. I can definitely say these Type R don’t play around! When that thing hooks it’s a scary sight seeing them reel you in lol. And from a roll I don’t even wanna say anything else haha.
What people don’t understand is that all if not most AWD will always win on the dig, which proves nothing other than who has better traction. Real power comes down to roll race! Some reason everyone think 0-60 is everything 🤷🏽♂️
@@Ace-oz9pc What people dont understand is that once you start making real power FWD is useless. Even with the most complex LSD systems. Traction is everything I would say anything >300 whp. Also, people don't understand how much a role that suspension plays in traction as well. Weight transfer is everything (balance)
@@keving5286 yup! My buddy knows whenever we cruise and I get a chance to launch my Golf R against him from a light I’m grinning lol. Its only when we enter a highway or freeway (for you Americans) it turns out to be a different story. Nonetheless I’d pick my Golf R over the Type R just cause….
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The first run the N didn’t launch properly.
Appreciate the additional detail/insight. Honestly it might be cool if every video had a little “behind the scenes” post. 🙂
Why you didn't repeat the race?
@@biendiego57 watch the video. We did
@@biendiego57 Diego chill papa
@@christianservin7635 "you" as in the guy who botched the race
Great video. I think the real MVP here is the Type R driver, he can really shift fast to keep up with a DCT regardless of the small power difference
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Yes, that's correct but this dct is not that quick shifting as dcts are generally loved for.
Don’t forget the weight difference
@@swarnendudutta9463 still quicker than a manual
@@Xdev1lG00D Yes, it is as I had said.
Hyundai has another dct, that's a 7 speed with two concentric dry clutches, that is almost as slow as manual shifting.
Unless you're on a track, there is absolutely no reason to use that DCT in manual mode for straight line racing. It's faster letting the car do it. Also I always hit the NGS right before I hit the pedal, not a bit before hand. Seems to work better that way. Just my experience so far with my Elantra N.
I have one, and I be with you, in the straight line don't need a manual mode, and that is true about the NGS is right before hit the pedal, also I don't like to used the lunch control.
@@QuiquePR I agree. Launch control isn't good on this car. Better results launching it yourself. Seems to get off the line a bit faster.
yeah he didn't seem to understand the button which seems simple to me but maybe I am missing something .
Correct.
Elantra N is a soulless car with no history. Also hyundai sounds like a chinese knock off of Honda.
Horrible comparison, person driving the N on almost every race reacted slower than the R.
broo its a type r
the N guy is also in automatic
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Type r is better quick
This is literally coping
Bro this guy doesn’t know how to drive💀
Important lesson: a car is only as fast as it’s driver
Great race and comparison! Manuals may still have an edge from a roll, maybe? Definitely curious about how the Elantra N manual will fare 🙏🏼
Hmmm🤔 I'm thinking 100kmh roll would be best for elantra n manual vs type r...
Not so sure, ive heard the manual runs 2psi lower boost.
The Type R's turbo also pulls more at a higher RPM. The Elantra N has more torque and HP at a lower RPM, you could see it on that race where the Elantra took the launch but the CTR was slowly catching up
@@gordonharris5788 well to be fair its a lot harder to launch a manual properly/consistently compared to a DCT. But i would agree the type R makes power up top. Having said that the N still traps 107mph in the 1/4
@@nighthawk0077 launch on type r is shit , i have one and cannot launch it hard you get wheel hop and if you keep you break something , so youhave to let go and apply throttle again , my fk2 lifting in 1st gear run 13.00 quarter mile and 2.2 60f with a trap of 112mph. im sure if it could launch properly would get down to 12.4 sec ( mine has bolt ons an a map nothing major)
Choose Elantra no doubt. Better interior and cheaper.
Did they not even use N mode for the exhaust clip? Sounds like normal mode. Also, the answer to how the MT does against the type R, the answer is: Worse.
Yeah, unfortunately it looks like the 'Normal' mode exhaust clip was used. We recorded N mode as well, but I guess brevity was an editing consideration lol
@@n2productions Listening to the video, it sounds like normal mode was used, I didn't hear any of the N's signature pops, nor did the exhaust really have the aggressiveness that N mode usually gives it. It's obviously a video and won't sound like it does in person, but it just didn't sound right.
@@g0d182 What do you even mean by that?
Why did you upshift at 6:20 right before the launch? seems the revs weren't high enough which is why the type R pulled a car length immediately
Yeah lol noticied that... No way he was in the right gear for a race......
Both cars 3rd gear
Elantra N is not meant to be used in manual mode for a roll race.. on top of that the ngs wasn’t used properly. Driver error
@@SamCarLegion yes but one has 6 gears the other one has 8 and is automatic, the automatic is obviously easier for the driver side, at the drag strip with the DCT would you use paddle shifters?
The real world price of the Civic R is almost double the N. With that in mind the N wins.
Type R is the King !👑
lol
Elantra N vs Kia K5 GT !!!
See the funny thing is type r runs 22,23 pounds boost. Stock both cars now the Elantra n is. 15lbs. Boost. See what happens when the Elantra n runs 23lbs boost out come will be. Totally different type r is over rated and over priced
*They woulda been faster without those fans pushing them back...*
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Lol
The host is just a terrible driver .. lol
I bet the N feels faster in daily driving conditions. I used to own a type r and it only felt fast on top. City driving it was a dog and no fun. The N seems more fun.
yeah agree. the turbo on the type r is more top end.
@@TheFK8Lifethat e30 fuel helped alot
@@commentmancommentman1658 thats why I run it lol e50 now
@@TheFK8Life that ethanol is the real unicorn gas for turbo cars🤣🤣
@@commentmancommentman1658 105 octane for 3.50 a gallon lol
On the last roll he upshifted
As an EN owner I might be biased but the engine note is so much better in the N. Plus it’s cheaper so u kinda get what u pay for here.
The N series is run by executive engineer for bmw M series cars. As anyone knows the M series are not designed to be the fastest cars but fun daily drivers. Speed does not translate into fun, if you want fast get a tesla roadster it will destroy both of these speed wise
they dont understant the Elantra N yet. Launch Control + NGS its goin to get you on par with the type R . for Sure!!!
I have a 21 sgp type r. Stock i ran a 2018+ mustang gt (460hp) from 80 to 130 mph and matched his speed till we saw traffic ahead. I dont condone that kind of driving but it interesting how fast the type r is in 6th gear. The aero is truly functional.
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Stop it
I knew the type r would obliterate it at a roll cause that 8 gears don't matter at all at that speed , plus type r is 200lbs lighter.
😂😂😂😂
It was actually pretty close in the 30mph roll. Hyundai is 6 grand cheaper, 200 lbs heavier. In my book thats a win for the Elantra N
@@buildmorefarms1007 not really close when the other car is pulling away from it
These videos are a joke. If you guys haven’t watched Best Motoring where they use real race drivers to test the cars then y’all missing out. They guys need to learn how to drive lol
Told y'all the Type-R is faster
From a Roll - slightly faster
@@SamCarLegion yes, but a roll is the most fair race
@@brokentradgedy if they went at the same time with ngs and auto mode it would’ve been way closer.
@@SamCarLegion every vid i have seen so far the N wins the dig race against the type R..AS FOR roll races between the two...including yours the type R HAS WON 3 AND THE N 2 RACES..all of them very close
@@SamCarLegion slightly? EN got gapped
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The first run the elantra stood there!! He didn't move seriously Sam!!!
When doing the rolls, your NGS feature is already off by the time you get to speed since you press it so early. Also, I believe the manual is gonna keep up MUCH better in the rolls compared to the DCT auto. Still crazy how much car you're getting for under 35k an with a few minor upgrades it's gonna be hard to stop.
What do you mean when the Dodge SRT4 came out it was $1995 and would probably spank both those cars or give um a run for the money 13.6 at 99mph with a good driver and to a bad driver at 14.0 1/4 mile time. They want us to pay for garbage what a joke
I have the 1.6t 2017 sport and best car I’ve ever owned looking to get a n now 60k and just tires and brakes you know no problems at all I’ll never own another car without a dct
@Adam Chapman If you were talking about anything 2013-2014 or before, yes, but not now...
@Adam Chapman you're so stuck in the old ways it is insane LOL. Veloster N's been pushing 350WHP since 2019 and running still great. Keep Hatin
@Adam Chapman Thanks for your opinion... I already posted mine. Every major vehicle brand has had the same or more in recalls in the past couple of years. Look at Subaru for January of this year. 198k+ for trans failure. Hyundai/Kia still offer 100k mile 10 year powertrain warranty that they honor. No one else does. If you don't like them, don't buy them...
Type R is no joke at top end
Golf R 😂😂🤣destroyed
N faster
The Type R does have more top end you can tell in the second run it was catching up even from a dig it will win in a longer run still the new Elantra N is impressive comon Honda give the Type R a Dct or a ZF transmission now even Huyndai is doing a great job now with there new line up with Dct transmission option
You should beg to not have a cvt like they intend to put on the new Integra....🤞
@@Frank-hg9rl they will never put a Cvt in there performance models the regular integra gets a Cvt whenever the type s comes out it will not have a Cvt that's for sure same will be the case here
@@FB6K24Z7 This is not from me, i saw/heard it from the New-York auto show. Good if it is not right, but i'm sure i heared it well
hope you're right...
@@FB6K24Z7 What about Subaru STI?
@@Frank-hg9rl don't know about STI but the WRX yes it's a Cvt
TypeR killin it, and the Elantra N killin it. Both great cars
I have both and for the type r to go that fast and leave the N it has a tune for shure test both in manual and totaly stock thats a better comparison
Elntra n fatser than typer r
@@opadilla123elantra n faster
the N is a really serious car. huge props to Hyundai
on the 60MPH roll, what RPM were you both at? seemed like you up shifted the N too much for that roll and were at too low an rpm to start
Type R still King Kong, even after all these years, what a car. The new one is going to be 🔥
Lol...no. The Golf R drives circles around it.
@@oemj7147 lmao from a dig in a straight line, who cares, from a roll the Type R still has the fastest 60-120 time in the segment. Also, you're comparing a car that came out in 2017 to a car that literally just came out. The old CTR is faster in every regard, track etc. Now if you want to shift gears with a paddle like an idiot sure it'll beat it in a 1/4 from a dig. Same reason an automatic Mustang beats manual Mustang, so what. But whats crazy is that we are even still comparing the FK8 Type R to all these new cars that just came out, to be fair, if you want apples to apples, we will have to compare the 23 Type R, and when it comes out, and it too, will take the world by storm, just like the FK8 did.
Why are you LYINY? The MK8 GOLF T R Drstroyed the type R on a roll. From 6-120. And it further destroyed it from a dig giving it a 10 second lead. Stop lying
And nobody cares about track. You are likely to use 0-60, 1/4 and trap speed etc as performance metric than track. 90% of type R owners them self don’t track. Car and driver has chosen the previous GOLF R over the type R many times. The golf R is the king of hatches
@@sharktin240 🤣🤣🤣🤣 said NOONE EVER, nobody in their right mind has ever picked the slow azz Golf over the Type R, and there is NO VIDEO of the manual Golf beating the CTR from a roll. Not to mention we aren't even comparing apples to apples, you are comparing the BRAND NEW GOLF to a 5 year old CTR (P.S. the CTR blistered the old Golf R in every aspect) wait until the new one comes out, and it won't even be a competition
🏁🏁 🤩🤩 I want to see a 2022 Alfa Romeo Giulia Stock versus Stock 2022 Camaro LT1 ✅✅
Stock v stock N wins if type R driver is bad. But if driver is good R beats it.
Yep! Yep! Nope! And Nope!
No reason to manual shift what so ever in a straight line in a dual clutch car, why people do this............................................
For the price point, it is expected. I’m loving my N!
I pick mine up Friday, stoked. 😊
Type r resale will be through through roof thought that is my only regret not getting the Honda
Losers 😂
@@buddyholleypoint9032 I wouldn’t be
@@ffrnando4388 Nobody asked you
Woooooow Big surprise. A Type R smoked yet another garbage Hyundai, “N” version what a joke!!
Wow
Woow that Elantra is gorgeous 😍 .the most beautiful sedan car I've ever seen
I'm excited to see if the 2023 Type-R is markedly better than the current gen
Doubt it
@@Out2theIndoors its faster around suzuka according to Honda, but only by a second. And who knows what tires they tested them both on. It is bigger so the fact that it might be just as fast is impressive.
Based on the new SI, nope.
@@sciencesold_ that means literally nothing.
@@WhitMX-5 2023 has the same engine as right now, if they were going to add power to it, they'd have bumped up the new SI a little so the gap stayed the same, instead of reducing the SI's power.
They guy with sun glasses is horrible at drag racing up dig was a horrible start then on the roll does worse that the 30 pull
The races are pretty close. I also cant decide which car won the "who is uglier" contest. I dont care how quick they are, I wouldnt be caught dead driving either one.
Love these uploads but you guys need to start recording your 1/4 mile times!
Can’t:(
@@SamCarLegion That's too bad!
Yessss Sam thank you for this video! Both cars are fantastic and fun to drive in different ways. EN with the dig and the CTR has the clear better top end and roll advantage. Would love to bring my DCT up across the border here from Michigan sometime to do some videos with you.
That would be cool! Worlds are colliding! (George Costanza voice)
Need both to race at the Nurburgring, that is where the Civic will shine. We all know the Civic does fairly well there so would be interest to see how far behind the Elantra is to give more of an idea how much better the Civic is as a sports car.
I like the idea of these videos but really need someone that can actually drive or at least keep trying till you get fair races.
Both amazing cars. I would still get a type r just all around awesome car. But the new type r coming out should be amazing.
Honda Civic type R :45.000€
Easy Win qualité performance Honda Civic type R
the last run u didnt put the right shift
The next gen Type R will further mop the floor with the N. Still a great matchup, Hyundai has a great car in the Elantra N.
I wouldn’t say mop the floor. More hp lighter weight it should win vs the Elantra but for the price the Elantra is a steal
@@trenton.tchannel1810 honestly, mop the floor is an unfair thing to say. Elantra N doesn’t really deserve being undermined like that. Specially when it’s as competent as it is.
What I meant was I expect the next Type R to further that gap. But again, Elantra N did very well.
The n is made with fun in mind primarily.
@@msrr1303 the new and old type r was made to break track record, the elantra N was made for being a fun car in the street while already being a track focused car.
@@msrr1303 I guess the real question is, is the performance difference of the new Type R going to be worth an additional 10-12K? I'd be surprised if you're able to find one for less than 50k.
Great video! Knew the N had the dig and the R the roll race. Very competitive cars
Type r have ridiculous top end its something I've noticed since they came out..that's where they shine
I remember an old Carwow video where even the old Mk7.5 Golf R and Focus RS couldn't match the Type R at the top end.
Great race!
Thank you for letting me know before the video started.
@@dubeast209 whoops apologies for the spoiler man. It was a good race though and definitely still worth watching.
Both great cars. At 3:00 though, that reaction time is long enough to honestly cut the whole race. Not much learned there. I initially thought maybe it was the car's throttle response but you can still see the brake lights on so it's driver error.
Loved hondas forever but the Elantra is out for blood in this segment.
Kind of tough to compare based on this vid because the Type R got a head start first race but then made a sandwich on the 1-2 shift at 4:27 (you can watch the palpable loss of acceleration the R had on the way to second at 3:57). Then the first roll seems solid but the second the Type R really got the jump at 6:23. So it's like combine that with the whole NGS button and launching business, and it seems like a race would be better had between drivers with a little more seat time in each car. But I guess that also kind of represents the real world if you encounter one another on the streets (of Mexico haha). Electronics are finicky to manage, shifts get f'd up, pacing get jumped, you kick yourself for riding the rev limiter, etc. Would love to see an on-track comparison and also how these cars times will compare at autocross this summer (I think they are in the same class to boot). My friend with an Elantra N tells me it loves to playfully oversteer and is a handful, but a good handful when the back end likes to slide a bit and it's practically yelling at you to mash the throttle! My R stays delightfully neutral even when the laws of physics say it shouldn't.
@@sidelingscroll Yes, I think it's safe to say our buddy Sam (is that his name?) can't drive very well. Those brake lights at 3:00 when the CTR is already gone is hilarious. And the missed shifts, oh man.. Yikes. Sammy had a bad day.
The driver in the Elantra N does not know how to drive that car
I want to see Elantra N vs Accord 2.0 🔥🔥🔥
Why would you wanna see your accord lose
I'm a Honda guy but the Type R cost $8-10K more and barely edge out the Elantra...WTF?
Type R is much powerful in 3-4th gear. Have been knocked out badly by Type R few times while driving my civic 1.5T.
Very Badly I could only imagine 😂
@@skylyfeprojects lol yeah
Seems like a drivers race between these two cars however the N has better 1/4 mile times on paper from what I'm seeing in other videos (stock vs stock).
Dude went from Yeah Buddy to Awwww Buddy after the Type R gap the N. Lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣
guy is in 6th gear trying to do a 60 roll kinda expected.....
??the type r gapped the N? Maybe in that last one where the R started early but there was no gapping lol
@@g0d182 no…I think you should watch the vid again. There were only two roll races- the one with owner was super fucking close, Bc he properly took off, Sam just fucked up his roll race
@@jacobdicicco2044 The 60mph roll race when the stock type R finally gets full power shows it wofflestomping the N - buslengths gap - 3rd gear 60 will destroy an N lol - thats the Rs roll for sure
Both fast but the sad part, they're both ugly cars...
REALLY hoping you can repeat this race when the new Civic Type R becomes available 😄
Sam you are struggling to Launch N cars for real, maybe just leave launch control out of the equation totally 🤦♂️ and use auto mode.
More HP + 6 speed manual + rolling race = civic type r
Type r is actually fast in rolling race because it's more easy to gain power than a full stop drag race.
it's not really the HP difference as you can tell on many dyno vids. But it is definitely a power to weight ratio for sure, the type r is a good bit lighter.
@@Boujizz yeah totally agree
yeah nothing to do with being in the best possible gear for the roll......
@UCrCVf0JjPEozxt6WzxBIfyQ but we all know the fK8 is hard to launch compare to a dct transmission of the Elantra N
The only thing I like about the a N is the exhaust and the noise.
Automatic vs manual. Also finally like seeing the different rolls. More power prefers a faster roll
@Bry Zeer that's the point. Compare manual to manual, auto to auto. When the trans are different its just another variable. Also dcts are automatics, no need for "auto". There's a reason some sports cars only come stick. Kinda wish the veloster n didn't get an automatic if they had the elantra n in the pipeline
@Bry Zeer it's a super car. Sports cars would be like a miata to a supra. In this case, the supra has an automatic. Or the hot hatches that mostly came in stick only, think sti, Evo, focus rs. Or dedicated sports cars like the s2000 which is only available as stick. There are sporty and great performing vehicles with automatics, and there are less than great automatics. You'd be hard pressed to tell me a charger scatpack (which shares the transmission with the supra) is a 4000 lb sports car.
@Bry Zeer bro Google something. No one calls dct cars dct. They are called automatic. Look up that gtr that you bring up "6-speed automatic". There's nothing wrong with an automatic like you make it seem but a 911 is hardly a sports car nowadays either. The cars you talk about being "sports cars" are not meant to be over 100k. A mustang gt? Sports car. A gt500? Not a sports car. Golf gti? Not a sports car, it's a hot hatch. Idk why you think sports car means fast? Miata and brz are not fast but are the pinnacle of daily driver sports cars. Porsche 718 is a sports car In manual or auto. If you can't drive stick that's fine, but it's not an excuse to classify whatever you want as a sports car
@Bry Zeer civic sis are not much faster than a stock civic anyways. But I'd call a civic si a sports call 10/10 times over a r35 gtr or new nsx since those are supercars (luxury and performance focused)
Both FWD asian sports sedans made by companies that start with the letter H. They have different tech deep into the tune, there's no such thing as apples to apples with brands but people will be comparing these cars. Honda decided to stick with a 6 speed manual technology, but we all know manuals are going the way of the dinosaur (even though we all love rowing through gears around the windy country roads).
There it is folks from a dig Elantra N will win, but from a Roll and up, Elantra falls shorts…. Finally!! Thanks brother 💯💯💯🙌🏼
6:17 At 100km/60mph run, why upshift into a low rev range right before the cone? It's obvious the driver bogged that Hyundai down.
That certainly looks to be the case the way the videos as edited.....but seriously there's no way he upshifts right before going wot? Right...
@@mtDNA_Refresh The engine bogs down and even though i has more gears with closer ratios than the Civic, it is taking a huge hit on the acceleration race. I get it, Honda is faster, but not that much. You can listen to the engine note if you think it's the editing
@@ahmetcemiloglu7213 yea man I'm in agreement after listening. Doesn't sound right.
Damn! The Korean car market is killing it. This is coming from a Japanese car lover. The Type R may have won the runs, but I can't deny that the Elantra N was right on its rear bumper. I never thought I'd say the day when Hyundai would fail to remain cordial on the raceway.
3 years of 1st place in WRC, definitely seeing the transition.
On a track the Hyundai wouldn't see where the Type-R went.
Honda not the same anymore they making slower car thanks to Toyota for making fun cars again
Elantra comes with a factory 100,000 mile warranty…. 60,000 of which is bumper to bumper.
Honestly, that’s worth more than a faster track time IMO.
@@NSUScooter Isn't there a class action lawsuit against Hyundai & Kia for excessive oil usage? Plus there's the whole spontaneous combustion issue that continues to plague the brands, and let's not forget engines randomly losing power and dying for no good reason. Yeah really top equality stuff.
I mean the type r is quite a bit more expensive so it shouldn't lose at all. And just seeing the n brand do digs quicker than the type r is crazy. There just isn't a better performance car on the market for the price than the VN and EN. Can't wait to see the new type r though.
A DCT can launch a car better than any manual driver
The type r has a msrp very similar to the Elantra n what are you talking about? I specked one today on Hyundai website and it was around 36k msrp. So what a 2k difference?
@@lucian7182 dealer markups go crazy for both
Bruh the Civic was a manual.
@@lucian7182 EN msrp $32,000. TR msrp $39,000. $7,000 is a hell of alot of upgrades for the N.
The first launch was a gift to Honda ... I would say study the potential of the cars before testing and publishing them.
the second launch went well.
the launch from 100km / h, certainly done with the hyundai under torque or with a high gear.
I need to see elantra n vs sonata n line please
He was brake boosting on the 60mph roll run.
Yea if that DCT in the Elantra is anything like the one in my wife's Forte GT it's really hard to get a good launch out of it. Smooth shifting once you're going but very sluggish from the get go.
Completely different units
Different units.
Your Forte has a dry 7 speed DCT.
The one in the Elantra N is a wet 8 speed DCT.
There's a fix for the dsg/dct "lul" is to smash the gas pedal.
What's everyone's opinion of the forte gt? I'm curious
@@j.t.553 Talked about it in another comment but my wife's only complaint is that the DCT doesn't have a smooth power delivery at all when you're on/off the throttle. Basically feels like the car is always stuck in sport mode with sharp/snappy shifts. You won't win any races in it but it's not a slouch by any means. 6 speed may be the best way to go
Someone doesn't know how to drive a certain vehicle properly
And this is only in a straight line. Take into consideration the Type R performance around the track and we can see why it is the benchmark to beat overall in this segment. The engineering of the car is impressive.
The Elantra N is also a great track car.
@Adam Chapman Lmao. You’re nothing but a pathetic delusional brand fanboy. Hyundai’s and Kia’s are reliable now, this isnt 2010 you old piece of trash
@Adam Chapman Elantra N is faster than Type R on track cuz of lighter weight.
@Adam Chapman Think whatever u want. Type R may be faster only on the straight road haha. On the track? Tell Type R to beat veloster n first! Now, whats the real shit box?
@@NoName-b5k1e LOL the urge to find and kick your face in for saying that, whether your joking or not you did not just say the Hyundai will beat the Honda on a track😂. Maybe you got it mixed up for a straight road Vs a track? But even then the Hyundai will and forever be inferior…. There’s a reason why Hyundai is marked as one of the worst brand to own. Although, they are stepping it up recently. Just not enough. Thank you for the laugh 🤣
I'm sorry but this guy does NOT know how to use the DCT auto Elantra N the right way! 1- Leave the car in FULL auto! Don't use the paddle/stick shifter! Car is MUCH faster without your help. 2- Hit the gas first, THEN press the overboost button! I 30 rolled the same stock Civic Type R and was AHEAD of him! Please redo this with someone who knows how the Elantra N works...🤦🏽♂️
type R is slightly faster but considering fun exhaust sound and daily comfort, N is better fit for me
Slightly? The N got gapped by a manual trans even on NGS mode LOL
@@Jcastro9444 roll only. Type r greatest improvement needs to be the launch and wheel slip off the line. Dct wins this hand down. And yes, I prefer the type r..
@@Jcastro9444 cope
@@Jcastro9444 I always say it's more interesting not that it gets gapped but how fast that gap happens. If it slowly pulls away it's ok but if it's pulls away very fast then holy damn it's fast.
Well the type r IS a race track car. If you want that speed but superior ride to the N, get a Honda Accord 2.0t or V6
The lad that drove the N line first is not a good driver please. His response times are ALWAYS SLOW. Not a good judge of the cars because I can’t trust what I just watched!!!!
Hey Sam, you're the man. Great one again. DCT has proved to be faster again! The type R is a fast car, no dought about it. Style wyse? I'm not a fan of that style, but some do...How much more $$$ compare to the Elantra N? And the 5 years waranty even if you take it the track, that's why a lot of guys will go for the N...
Did u watch a different race?? The type r won everything but 1 race from the dig, and trust me the type r owner is working way harder to shift. that gap was huge on the roll go civic😎
They need to compare it to the 2022 one... Us styling of the N is horrible
dual clutch has 8 gears and shifts faster than the human can.
@@45kph yeah duh, but the skill in racing manuals is definitely fun to observe and experience. Both cars are dope
@@TheRealStevenSeagals yea I'd pick the manual over any auto matic or semi automatic.
All these STOCK cars are so close that on a daily basis the results are negligible.
Impressive Hyundai
The N is equal or even a bit faster. I honestly feel the N needs better drivers lol. When racing straight line there is no reason to shift the car yourself.. Just launch control and go.. As far as the roll races. Drop the N down into 2nd (30 roll) and 3rd (60 roll) and just floor it and have the car do the rest of shifting. The manual N won't be faster than the dct N either.
All I can say is, for being 200 lbs heavier and about 6 grand cheaper, the Hyundai kicked butt! Took the launch despite the Honda starting slightly earlier. Hyundai is for real.
DCT.....nuff said.
Civic seems to be tuned or have some mods, maybe phearable stage 1. Also you need to do the 60mph race again, you guys didn't start at the same time.
dude that type r is stock
7:20 Hog wash. In N mode with the column shifter in the manual position it will not upshift for you.
So I have video evidence of 2 buddies of mine one has an elantra N and the other type r both stock and they did a 50 to 150 and the elantra N was in front and the type r driver could row gears 🤷🏽♂️
On Run 2, did the Elantra N driver use the NGS button -- it doesn't look like it. Also, at launch, was traction control turned off and was high RPM rev around 2300?
Yes he did
@@SamCarLegion Thanks for confirming, Sam! For the Roll 3.... it looks like the NGS button was activated prior to launch?? Per Hyundai, NGS is suppose to be activated when in motion and not prior to launch.
N mode sets traction to 'ESC Sport' and launch RPM range can only be between 2500 and 3500 - in this case it was set to 2500.
@@n2productions Yes, I forgot the N mode was activated. Thanks for the clarification!
“TheBestLabKorea” has bunch of track racing with professional driver. Including type r and all others.
Finally, a video that I've been waiting for. Thank you, Sam! Bravo! Another great video and great match-up between the Elantra N vs the Civic Type-R. Amazing results. I can see you having trouble with the initial launch of the Elantra N.... Hyundai designed its own DCT and it does not like hard launch of its transmission. Probably to maintain its longevity/reliability. Also, when driving in a straight line, no need to do a manual shift on a DCT. Regardless, great job on the friendly matchup. For under $35k, the Hyundai Elantra N is a lot of car for the money. Respect to the Civic Type-R... a legend and great car.
If they mess up on a race, they should just scrap it and record again. Drivers ruin these videos
Both are good cars that have styling I cannot live with. I’m sure there are loads of people that like the way these cars look but not for me
I agree completely. I love both companies and both are great cars, but they both look terrible to me lol. Now the Veloster N.......that thing looks awesome, would wayyyyy rather have that over the Elantra N! Though either would be better than my rather subdued basic 2013 Elantra GT lol (still like it, has good styling and is comfortable)
@@NiirTheRaccoon I had a sense that the Elantra GT was a good car but hadn’t driven one. The veloster n struck me as less than the sum of its parts so I bought a civic si. I like understated, though for some it may be too conservatively styled
@@stms4411 Understandable, I am just not a fan of Honda's newest styling really, and some of Hyundai's is not great either. I just think the Veloster N would be perfect for me haha. I will never have one though lol
@@NiirTheRaccoon you never know!
You should try a Forte GT 6MT with a racechip. The chip adds 50hp and 50torque. Roughly. Really wakes up the car. And it looks fairly subtle and tame. I suspect traction might be a problem though, as it's lacking a diff.
I guess I'm getting old. Push this button then push this button then push this button and you are in the correct mode. What happened to rolling up to a red light and then hitting it?
Next video for the Elantra n needs to be against the accord 2.0(both automatic)
Accord 2.0 has less HP and higher CW, its gonna lose
@@sciencesold_ yea but it’s a 10 speed vs the Elantra (8 speed) and the accord 2.0 has slept a lot of cars tbh, I still think it would be a decent match up
@@slumpeddcrew145 The Accord beat out a lot of cars that it already had power on, or had similar power. The EN being able to almost keep up with the CTR means it would smoke the Accord.
my dad has an elantra n and they are fricking awesome (we just launched it today, best expriance ever)
Gotta give props to Hyundai….The N division is building quality cars at a great price point. People love to bash them…..but they keep on getting better.
@Adam Chapman I bought my '12 Genesis Coupe 3.8 R-Spec brand new in 2011. I've had ONE serious problem with it in all these years (and I drive hard). When I did have the issue, I took it to the dealership and they fixed it under warranty with zero hassle.
Maybe I just got lucky, but I have no complaints about Hyundai quality.
@Adam Chapman they get 100k miles warranty I don't know what you smoking but those are great cars. I own 2018 elantra sport and is a blast to drive it. not like my older 07 bmw 335i but gets similar vibe.
Type R has driver mod. Both roll races the elantra N drivers were super slow. Regardless I think the R is faster on a roll.
Good race!! Of course I wanted the Type R to win.👍🏿😎. Sam...hope you can get the MdX Type S vs the GV80 race soon.
That happened and we seen the results lol
@@treyvon4444 yah. We knew who would take the crown.
@@AcuraChannel Them N lines got take offs but u can run them down after a quarter mile.
@@treyvon4444 yah! 0-60mph or quarter mile doesn't mean anything , as it doesn't release a vehicle full potential power and speed. Top end speed is where you can see just how fast a car really is.. but I know most people can't do top end speed on the interstate.
@@AcuraChannel That's what I be saying let's see what the car can do on the highway. I cant never race the cars I want on the highway.
Elantra N did super well👌...for being 200lb heavier and less hp!!! Well done
I have a Golf R stage 2 tuned and my buddy has a stage 2 Type R. I can definitely say these Type R don’t play around! When that thing hooks it’s a scary sight seeing them reel you in lol. And from a roll I don’t even wanna say anything else haha.
What people don’t understand is that all if not most AWD will always win on the dig, which proves nothing other than who has better traction. Real power comes down to roll race! Some reason everyone think 0-60 is everything 🤷🏽♂️
@@Ace-oz9pc because on the street you smoke them on traffic lights lol. But I agreed.
@@Ace-oz9pc What people dont understand is that once you start making real power FWD is useless. Even with the most complex LSD systems. Traction is everything I would say anything >300 whp.
Also, people don't understand how much a role that suspension plays in traction as well. Weight transfer is everything (balance)
@@keving5286 yup! My buddy knows whenever we cruise and I get a chance to launch my Golf R against him from a light I’m grinning lol. Its only when we enter a highway or freeway (for you Americans) it turns out to be a different story. Nonetheless I’d pick my Golf R over the Type R just cause….
@@Ace-oz9pc agree to disagree 🤷🏽♂️ I live for that 0-60
Too many variations on the the driving styles. Maybe next time stick to the driver that knows the vehicle better.