Me too! What an awesome way to test a car’s performance...any other day this could have been a close one just comparing straight line performance. To me a well rounded car is the better choice
as a fan boy myself, subaru has been shooting themselves in the foot for the past couple years. Completely new designs but the engineering has really become quite mediocre
Hyundai definitely benefited from the guy that came over from BMW. I'm a Ford guy but I'm getting my elantra N in a month. First ever non Ford I will have owned
@@George-qw8ss ive been Chevy for so long. Just picked up a 22 WRX. But I’ll be going up mountains and such, so the choice was clear for me. Needed something fun on and off the road
M-N, M performance-N performance, M Town-N village. Hyundai Motor is copying the bmw M like a fake Chinese car in an insignificant way, using Albert Biermann as a shield.🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅
I had decided last year I wanted to get a WRX, until I saw the new version and started really researching the best option for a manual compact sport sedan. I took delivery of an Elantra N two days ago. I'm glad this test didn't go the other way.
I work at a Hyundai dealership and we got one in and my co worker bought it right away and I was absolutely shocked at how Hyundais n division made a regular old Elantra into a fun powerful sports sedan. Also we got a Kona N in and that made me realize that Hyundai wasn’t screwing around with these cars but I was also overly impressed with how quick but very practical it was.
Hyundai was screwing around for the last ten years, so they could sit back and do what they do best: wait for all the others to invent and design everything, then reverse-engineer their way to success. They don't get credit for creating a true driver's machine. They get credit for monkey see, monkey do. They should change it to be the 'M' line.
@@thesorrow619 Good luck with any major warranty claims. Both available transmissions were developed in-house by Hyundai. You won't notice many shortcomings, so long as you plan to drive it like a grandpa. But when problems start to develop that they are unable to cure in two or fewer service visits, they will simply brush you off. They replaced two major components of my drive train on my vehicle (their 6-speed manual crap box and the propeller shaft) that had fewer than 4,500 miles on it. I bought it brand-new. Their favorite phrase is "Working to design and intent" when the ugly flaws reveal themselves. That's how I was treated. Even after I engaged the help from the consumer defender from Channel Two in Houston, Hyundai stood by their remarks. Despite having assessments from ASE Certified mechanics to back it all up, Hyundai North America completely ignored the evidence and refused to service my car under warranty any further for the issues I was having. There were others with similar experiences. So go ahead and grab one of those cars. They'll be changing the body style so radically in two model years, that you'll get to experience the feeling of owning the 'previous generation' model very quickly.
@@7t7o7 well I’m a Hyundai tech, so If I need to make a warranty claim, I’ll make sure I get it. and i ordered the manual transmission instead of their shitty automatic dual clutch so I’ll last longer
You fine folks are CRUSHING it with this new video format. Some of the most exciting comparison videos out there. Seriously. Whoever thought this up deserves a raise.
Seriously, how much do organizations like edmunds pay you twittering dweebs to help them CRUSH it (whatever 'it' was to begin with) and be so damned exciting with their comparison videos (so as they are)?
M-N, M performance-N performance, M Town-N village. Hyundai Motor is copying the bmw M like a fake Chinese car in an insignificant way, using Albert Biermann as a shield.🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅
I got the dct version and it’s faster than the manual I Put bus lengths on. Newer wrx and I had full tank gas. And 2 passengers This was from 60 mph to 140. This car is. Stock. And it blow me away. I’m very happy Can’t complain. Dct is. Way to go.
I have a Veloster N DCT, I know everyone loves a manual but the dual clutch in these N models are absolutely insane. I absolutely love them. Highly highly recommend hyundai N
Kind of like the GTI’s/Golf R. These cars are meant to be fun DAILY’s, and they will never be sports cars or weekend toys, so I think the superior autos are actually better for the cars’ purposes. My Camaro on the other hand, I would never get in auto lol (it actually didn’t even have an option for auto)
@@shiberino8413 i dont know, when looking into Hyundai's N models, they actually want these cars to be played with. I looked through warrenties and asked around. They actually cover damages to internals such as the engine, transmission, dual clutch, etc if you take them to the track or "street race" lol
@@shiberino8413 I even heard about one instance where a guy had a manual Veloster N and money shifted it on the highway and they fully warrentied the replacement of his engine and transmission.
@@calebcarter5413 yeah I get that’s their marketing but at the end of the day it’s a fun and quick daily. You can’t really compare to track oriented performance cars because they serve two different purposes. I thought my modified MK7 GTI was quick and fun until I drove my current Camaro SS 1LE lol
@@motormusique -LOOKS: It is staggering how much better this car looks in person. I'm not entirely sure why it doesn't photograph that well, but in person it makes an impression even just sitting there. It's aggressive without being overly showy. All the salesmen were drooling over it, and before I arrived, they turned down a few customers wanting to test drive it since I already had a deposit down. -INTERIOR: Sit in the driver's seat and it's obvious that this is a driver's car. The entire cockpit is oriented on you as the driver, everything in very convenient reach, and it feels like the entire thing is hugging you and holding you in. Very aggressive bolsters on the seats, which work great for keeping you secure in the twists. I'm a big guy and still found it comfortable. The infotainment is very responsive and intuitive, and there are so many options to explore and play with. Even the little things like the light-up seats and the changeable ambient lighting are fun and contribute to the whole feel of sitting in the car. Everything feels quality, too, nothing loose or rattling. -DRIVING: Of course, this is where the car really proves itself. Even Eco mode feels nice and is perfectly comfortable and capable on the highway. Then, with every successive driving mode you feel the car come alive a little more, until you hit N mode and it just wants to GO. You can feel the car wanting to speed up, and in the turns it actively claws at the ground to pull you out of corners. Even just highway driving, you can easily find yourself cruising 20MPH faster than you thought you were. This car feels absolutely rock solid and it responds to whatever you ask for, going exactly where you ask it to go with speed and precision. It actually reminds me of driving a little-brother version of my buddy's M3, which I guess isn't a surprise given the pedigree behind N design. If there were no badges, you could easily believe this is a German car. I'm also baffled by certain reviews that say the suspension is too stiff and gets uncomfortable, as I found it the perfect balance of comfort and connection to the road. I took my 65-year-old mother for a drive and unprompted she actually commented how good it felt. ODDITIES: The cupholders are a bit weird. Center armrest storage space could be bigger. Seat adjustor bar is a bit hard to reach. So far, just minor little things that don't ultimately matter that much. OVERALL: It's as good as they say it is.
Hyundai is killing it these days and Subaru is just getting killed. Hyundai is doing everything right with the N line and they are on my short list to replace our 2014 WRX. I don't know WTF Subaru is thinking. The 2022 WRX was a total let down on performance and looks. Some of the choices they made (you can only get the adjustable suspension and nice seats on a CVT???) are just insane. "Don't worry, just wait for the STi...." Lol. How did that work out?
FINALLY, I'm seeing some "Elantra N versus _____" videos... I want more of these! I think it's pretty exciting that Hyundai has entered the scene that's normally dominated by Subaru, Volkswagen, and Honda. More compare/contrast stuff that includes the Elantra N, please!
its brilliant but inconsistent. The WRX driver looked like he thought the race was over after the drag race but then remembered it was a u-turn race. You can tell since he slowed down. Regardless, the Elantra definitely has the better steering, but in a drag race , the AWD from the WRX would win it the drag race.
This video showcased how the driver makes all the difference. He roasted the N off the line in the WRX. And then he roasted the WRX off the line in the N with only FWD.
@@jacobdicicco2044 yes but the N won by a MUCH larger margin in the second race. And in the first race the WRX flew past the Elantra at launch. Second race, FWD N stayed right with it. And murdered the WRX buy a huge and much larger margin than in the first race. Just showcasing that even though the N is a far superior driver's car, the driver also makes a difference, even if the N will take it every time. Planning on getting one myself soon as I sell my mk7 R
Well this just completely validates my purchase of a new Elantra N (called Sedan N here in Australia). I’ve always been a Subie fan and owned 2 Subarus over the years. I’ve always driven manuals but I just bought the Sedan N in auto and I couldn’t be happier! The Rexy has a cult following but Subaru didn’t do enough to get my business on this occasion. I would love to see the same race done with the Elantra N DCT! It’s even faster 😎
I'd be pretty upset to lose to a Hyundai, but the N is legit. That what Subaru gets for just minor improvements over the years, while other companies push it.
A subaru on pavement is Michael Jordan playing baseball. Too many have been made a pavement Princess though, why people expect them to hang in these sorts of tests
I still think the N would fare well against the GR86. Torque curve was vastly improved on the GR86 but the 86 was never about power. N is basically a muscle car compared to the GR86.
Elantra N would shred the GR86 in a drag context, even with the turn. There's just too much of a power difference (at least the 86 won't have the WRX's boost lag, hahaha) That said, would be great to compare the handling as the 86 is amazing in that dept. (coming from a Subaru-bleeding happy BRZ owner)
@@layne4376 I never had that issue with hyundai. Turbo sensor kept bringing the check engine light on took it to the dealer 3 different times last time I took it it had 88k. I've had my elantra sport coming up in the 5th year it has 140k 1.6t 6 speed. Original clutch. Car is a blessing.
@@layne4376 "Yawn" because despite how eager you were previously writing those long comments, being refuted with logic and common sense leaves you with no option for retaliation.
Honestly I’ve known about edmunds for 15ish years and have never gone to the site or thought about it. But this format of testing has sold me on your channel haha. It is informative, fun and makes me want to have local drag strips try and implement this if possible because I want to race this locally. Please keep up this series, new cars are awesome but for some longevity and nostalgia please try and find classic rivals of the 90s and 2000s to do this race in both stock and modded versions if possible!
This sold you? The wrx had a killed launch the first run but the second time got beat off the launch. That should not happen. The wrx should win the launch against the elantra every single time without a question. It has way more traction.
Saw one being dropped off and they look better in person then in videos . Love to see Hyundai push the envelope and make these other car companies work. Thanks b man!!
Not just quick stock, the new turbo inlet on the N's makes easy 340 of a map and pretty easy 390 to 400 with supporting mods and stage 2 map! Add a dct to the N and that scobby needs a good 450bhp to stand a chance and even then I feel the dct would make the difference. Things have changed a lot in the last decade!! As a Scooby owner for many years I'd never ever believed all this if you'd told me this just a few years back! Seriously considering an i30N here in the UK. Great vid btw, best drag format around currently.
Hyundai has come a long way in the past couple of years and on top of them running better they look pretty good these days too they are making some good looking cars they pretty much have the sport compact market filled up since Ford quit making sport compacts Hyundai's are the way to go.
I have just over 1200 miles on my N. Love it. I have had 3 wrxs and a mustang. By far this is my favorite car. When that boost kicks in it is so much fun. Also round a bouts are so much fun. Insane how that car eats turns. The more gas you give it the faster the inner wheel goes to keep you in the turn.
I LOVE mine. Got mine in the performance blue and it’s such a beauty. It launches so smoothly, handles amazingly and feels so nice overall. Best car purchase I have ever made.
Performance Blue 6-spd on the ground yesterday. Everything I hoped for and more. 53 year old long time sport-compact Gti, WRX,ST, RS, owner......nobody is building anything like this anymore.
A single WRX got into the Nurburgring and completed. Multiple Elantras from multiple teams went into the Nurburgring and 2 of them fell apart before the day was up.
I have a 2014 WRX (my first ever) and overall it’s a fun car, but I wouldn’t call it fast. It’s punchy and on a twisty road a lot of fun, plus I love the look of it. However after thinking about it, I wouldn’t buy another WRX due to the fact they aren’t actually that quick or powerful. Case in point I didn’t realise an i30N has more power than my WRX. It’s quite sad that Subaru don’t seem to want to make more power out of the engine. A modern 4 cylinder sports car should be making at least 300HP now in 2022, com’on Subaru.
Right there with you I’ve had my for 7 months and already had to put a new engine in the car I won’t ever buy other wrx they are money pits think my next option in a civic type R 😈
Damn that sucks you had to put a new engine in! Funny you mention the Type-R, because I had the chance to buy a 2018 Type-R in 2019 for about $48,000AUD but didn’t want to spend that much at the time. Thanks to Covid they are worth about $55,000AUD now. The one that got away.
Subarus are made to be modded. How many car company's do warranty work on catless tuned cars? Subaru does. There are limits to that but they are known for it. Subaru isn't about being fast. It's about becoming fast. Subaru and dodge are the last 2 companies that make cars for real motorheads. Though there will be no sti 2022 model year so this may be an end to a jdm era like the evo a sad day for the manual transmission and boxer engine.
Same here! I have a 2013 hatchback, when i heard they got rid of hatchbacks i was pissed because that is all i like. Then next gens had pathetic power increase. Then i started getting sick of how much gas it consumes especially having to use premium is too much. I am currently looking for other brands.
@@CharacterZero89 That's the issue. One shouldn't have to modify their car to make it fast, it should be able to compete with other brands out of the box. Modding takes a lot of time and effort which most people don't have. Also here in Australia Hyundai N cars are the ONLY cars that you can take on a race track without voiding the manufacturers warranty.
You mentioned the equipment was working the 2nd race, so why no performance numbers (0-60, 1/4 mile, cornering G) like previous U-Drags? I love the format, but it is far better, when you give the subjective numbers in addition to the objective driver reviews. Keep up the good work.
I always see everyone turning on Sport Mode or Performance Mode for all the other cars when comparing them to a WRX but I never see anyone put the WRX into Trac Mode by pressing and holding the traction control down for a few seconds. This is supposed to help with the power distribution to the wheels because it locks the differential and doesn't cut power. I'm just curious why no one does this for any of these tests against a WRX?
Yes I understand that, I also have a manual WRX but you're not understanding is turning off tracking control does not affect the power on the manual boxes... You actually don't even understand your own car.. the differential does not lock. It's an open diff on the WRX. Traction control is controlled with the rear brakes.. open differential is in the middle.. only the STI has locking differentials
Bought a '02 WRX wagon new and kept it 17 years. Dropped the clutch two times. Once in heavy rain just to see what it would do. Second time, pulling out on a blind corner only to discover a car was coming. REALLY, wanted the new WRX to be my new car. Can't get passed the plastic cladding & 3 hp increase. Drove a Kona N, liked a lot of things but no manual. Elantra may be it
That 200lbs. Doesn’t matter I got the dct version I was on hwy had full tank gas and 2 passengers. In my car. Went from 60 mph to 140. And I gapped a newer wrx. Bus lengths. This car is impressive I can’t complain. Or find one thing I don’t like about the car I’m just blown away specially from a damn Hyundai.
@@Mmb0927 I think it's the 3rd time you talk about the "full tank of gas and 2 passengers"...we know ! Thanks. (just pulling your leg...don't get mad !) LOL
Two years ago I saw this video and I still bought the WRX and now I think they never competed on a dirt track, that's what the WRX was made for, I think it has no competition there.
in the second run the WRX didn't "struggle" to get going; the driver struggled to launch it well. I'm not trying to make excuses for the car, a loss is a loss, and I think the N really is better overall. But lets be real here lol, the WRX should ALWAYS win off the line in this match up
I ran a 2020 STi in my 2017 Elantra Sport 6 speed on the highway, his was stock and I had an upgraded hot intercooler pipe, intake, and a piggyback ECU. Even with ~60ish less hp I had no problem walking away at highway speeds. Hyundai is and has been making strides where other former “enthusiast” brands are disappointing. Sold it for more than I paid when the car market got hot last year. Miss it, but I don’t miss the tickets and points on my license.
Hmm as a driver of a WRX sti I believe that the driving style of both drivers are not driving an all wheel drive car as it should be. Chris Atkinson explains how to drive all wheel drive WRXs. When turning into a corner you dont power through the corner in an all wheel drive, you need to let the car cruise through the corner then once your out of the corner thats where you apply more power.
This is a really novel drag layout. Surprised this wasn't thought of sooner, or more popular. Hopefully others will take "inspiration" from this. These races shows a lot about the car, then just a quarter mile down some stretch of road.
Both cars are awesome. Hyundai has put a lot of money towards research & development, Subaru just took the engine out of a Subaru Accent & stopped here
I support Hyundai because they have come a long way. I remember them being the butt of jokes in the car community as though it was yesterday. Oh but then the Tiburon came in the mid 90s and messed that up. Soon Hyundai began making more performance oriented vehicles and they've now got their own performance badge a subsidiary, which also had their own performance badge known as GT and a luxury brand. They also have a huge influence in rallying. Now the tilted H is getting the last laugh.
They're getting the last laugh...at you all who are supporting them. Where in hell do you think they've gained every single piece of their technology? None of it came from the minds of their engineers. It came from the minds of the engineers of every other car builder out there. A car company that can just sit back and cherry-pick everyone else's design ideas and technological breakthroughs--then mix them all together and act like they accomplished something far and beyond the others--deserves blind customers who could never discern which one was Shinola.
Hyundai has been doing big things. I've had my 13 Genesis coupe 3.8 since release and it's been really good, and I was thinking of buying the Veloster N, but this damn Elantra N is stout also. I'm waiting for these overly high marked up car prices to hopefully drop, then I'll decide. Kudos to Hyundai
As a 19 STI owner i would say sunset of building sport cars for subaru is close.... Its just sad to see where other auto makers reach past decades and subaru still punching 5 to 10hp more on powerplants .... With STI been canceled i m almost positive Subaru is on the road to be a SUV only production after 2030 ....
I've owned Subarus since they brought their turbo engines to the US, but my girlfriend's turbo Kona is very impressive. Sort of a modern bugeye wagon WRX. Throw in Hyundai standing behind their cars while Subaru.. doesn't.. and I'm looking hard at the Kona N..
Pick up my N in 2 weeks. Even though the manual is a hair slower, I had to go 6spd. Save the stick shifts! I just can't figure out why only the DCTs get a sunroof
That's awesome, congrats. To answer your question, it's because Hyundai figures if you choose the manual, then you are more than likely someone that really cares about performance and wants the most structurally rigid and lightest car for handling on a track for example. A sunroof adds weight where you really don't want it, and disrupts the center of gravity. That said though, it would be really missed on the street. It should at least be a stand alone option imo, for the one's that will never make it to a track.
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I own a 2017 wrx. Not surprised the hyundai caught it on the big end
Do dct versus civic type r or vw gti or golf r.
Yall should try testing with someone who can actually drive that WRX. This was embarrassing for y'all
I knew it. My tuned 18 Elantra Sport 7DCT beat my friends 11 STI with 320WHP on a roll from 30MPh to 1xxMPH by 1.5-2 cars…
@@the_slow_sti Well, the fastest time on both cars was the same driver and the N was still faster.
This U drag race may be the new thing! This is such a cool race!
It really does make a difference because handling matters just as much and sometimes even more than straight line power.
Agreed I really enjoy it.
Me too! What an awesome way to test a car’s performance...any other day this could have been a close one just comparing straight line performance. To me a well rounded car is the better choice
Hyundai and KIA are still selling cars in russia.
edmounds supports war profiteers. 😡😡😡😡😡
useless test
As a subaru fanboy, I'm very impressed by the Elantra N. Kudos to Hyundai for making a rad car!
as a fan boy myself, subaru has been shooting themselves in the foot for the past couple years. Completely new designs but the engineering has really become quite mediocre
Hyundai definitely benefited from the guy that came over from BMW. I'm a Ford guy but I'm getting my elantra N in a month. First ever non Ford I will have owned
@@George-qw8ss ive been Chevy for so long. Just picked up a 22 WRX. But I’ll be going up mountains and such, so the choice was clear for me. Needed something fun on and off the road
M-N,
M performance-N performance,
M Town-N village.
Hyundai Motor is copying the bmw M like a fake Chinese car in an insignificant way, using Albert Biermann as a shield.🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅
@George-qw8ss how's the EN after a year of ownership?
I had decided last year I wanted to get a WRX, until I saw the new version and started really researching the best option for a manual compact sport sedan. I took delivery of an Elantra N two days ago. I'm glad this test didn't go the other way.
you’ll regret not buying the subaru
I got dct. Car makes more power than the manual version much faster
@@patrickpapania4891 God in looks alone, that Subaru is awful. Nice wheel arches lmao.
@@patrickpapania4891 why?
He took as shitty corner
I work at a Hyundai dealership and we got one in and my co worker bought it right away and I was absolutely shocked at how Hyundais n division made a regular old Elantra into a fun powerful sports sedan. Also we got a Kona N in and that made me realize that Hyundai wasn’t screwing around with these cars but I was also overly impressed with how quick but very practical it was.
Hyundai was screwing around for the last ten years, so they could sit back and do what they do best: wait for all the others to invent and design everything, then reverse-engineer their way to success. They don't get credit for creating a true driver's machine. They get credit for monkey see, monkey do. They should change it to be the 'M' line.
It's not a old Elantra. It's a new platform
Bro I’m about to buy one too, it’s nice we get a discount too
@@thesorrow619 Good luck with any major warranty claims. Both available transmissions were developed in-house by Hyundai. You won't notice many shortcomings, so long as you plan to drive it like a grandpa. But when problems start to develop that they are unable to cure in two or fewer service visits, they will simply brush you off. They replaced two major components of my drive train on my vehicle (their 6-speed manual crap box and the propeller shaft) that had fewer than 4,500 miles on it. I bought it brand-new. Their favorite phrase is "Working to design and intent" when the ugly flaws reveal themselves. That's how I was treated. Even after I engaged the help from the consumer defender from Channel Two in Houston, Hyundai stood by their remarks. Despite having assessments from ASE Certified mechanics to back it all up, Hyundai North America completely ignored the evidence and refused to service my car under warranty any further for the issues I was having. There were others with similar experiences. So go ahead and grab one of those cars. They'll be changing the body style so radically in two model years, that you'll get to experience the feeling of owning the 'previous generation' model very quickly.
@@7t7o7 well I’m a Hyundai tech, so If I need to make a warranty claim, I’ll make sure I get it. and i ordered the manual transmission instead of their shitty automatic dual clutch so I’ll last longer
You fine folks are CRUSHING it with this new video format. Some of the most exciting comparison videos out there. Seriously. Whoever thought this up deserves a raise.
Seriously, how much do organizations like edmunds pay you twittering dweebs to help them CRUSH it (whatever 'it' was to begin with) and be so damned exciting with their comparison videos (so as they are)?
M-N,
M performance-N performance,
M Town-N village.
Hyundai Motor is copying the bmw M like a fake Chinese car in an insignificant way, using Albert Biermann as a shield.🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅
This drag style is legit!! You get to learn a lot about a car this way.
Imagine if every other car manufacturer evolved as Hyundai and Kia did over the past decade.
Now they are gunna try to play catch up and fail miserably. Hopefully Hyundai doesn't become stale and boring after they take their throne.
Do you think you can beat the Elantra N with your accord 2.0T ?? love ur channel btw
That’s not saying much considering Hyundais and Kia’s are still huge piles of shit.
@@goybi7356 C’mon man. Everybody knows there is no worse pile of shit than BMW. Nobody is as bad as expensive euro trash.
@@goybi7356 still better than the rubbish coming out of Germany
I agree, the Elantra N has great steering especially on curves, I own the same blue color, the car is fast.
Recently got one as well and damn turning corners give me so much confidence
I have the VN and scared the shit out of my buddy the first corner and I wasn't even pushing
Legit contemplating the switch up after owning a stinger. That n line spec really hits the sweet spot for daily and performance.
The day I thought I would see a Elantra smack a WRX 🤯 Hyundai is for real!!
I got the dct version and it’s faster than the manual I Put bus lengths on. Newer wrx and I had full tank gas. And 2 passengers This was from 60 mph to 140. This car is. Stock. And it blow me away. I’m very happy Can’t complain. Dct is. Way to go.
I know. Never considered the N line Hyundai's before but now - I really need to put it on my list.
A smart car could have smacked the WRX with those guys behind the wheel. Smh 🤦♂️
@@housepianist Be aware that the N Line cars are completely different from the full N products
@@the_slow_sti the wrx just isn’t as fast or as good a performance car as the Elantra N 🤷🏻♂️
I have a Veloster N DCT, I know everyone loves a manual but the dual clutch in these N models are absolutely insane. I absolutely love them. Highly highly recommend hyundai N
@The Real Cat of 2020 I can verify. You cannot force it to shift to 1st lol
Kind of like the GTI’s/Golf R. These cars are meant to be fun DAILY’s, and they will never be sports cars or weekend toys, so I think the superior autos are actually better for the cars’ purposes. My Camaro on the other hand, I would never get in auto lol (it actually didn’t even have an option for auto)
@@shiberino8413 i dont know, when looking into Hyundai's N models, they actually want these cars to be played with. I looked through warrenties and asked around. They actually cover damages to internals such as the engine, transmission, dual clutch, etc if you take them to the track or "street race" lol
@@shiberino8413 I even heard about one instance where a guy had a manual Veloster N and money shifted it on the highway and they fully warrentied the replacement of his engine and transmission.
@@calebcarter5413 yeah I get that’s their marketing but at the end of the day it’s a fun and quick daily. You can’t really compare to track oriented performance cars because they serve two different purposes. I thought my modified MK7 GTI was quick and fun until I drove my current Camaro SS 1LE lol
You're right about the Elantra's steering. It feels amazing. I'm thrilled every time I get to drive this car.
Can you describe it more for those of us who aren't as lucky to drive it
Any issues yet? I want one but all of Hyundai’s recent issues has me steering towards the SI.
@@ROBMACDUI What issues? Hyundai has been killing it.
@@ROBMACDUI It's been rock solid.
@@motormusique -LOOKS: It is staggering how much better this car looks in person. I'm not entirely sure why it doesn't photograph that well, but in person it makes an impression even just sitting there. It's aggressive without being overly showy. All the salesmen were drooling over it, and before I arrived, they turned down a few customers wanting to test drive it since I already had a deposit down.
-INTERIOR: Sit in the driver's seat and it's obvious that this is a driver's car. The entire cockpit is oriented on you as the driver, everything in very convenient reach, and it feels like the entire thing is hugging you and holding you in. Very aggressive bolsters on the seats, which work great for keeping you secure in the twists. I'm a big guy and still found it comfortable. The infotainment is very responsive and intuitive, and there are so many options to explore and play with. Even the little things like the light-up seats and the changeable ambient lighting are fun and contribute to the whole feel of sitting in the car. Everything feels quality, too, nothing loose or rattling.
-DRIVING: Of course, this is where the car really proves itself. Even Eco mode feels nice and is perfectly comfortable and capable on the highway. Then, with every successive driving mode you feel the car come alive a little more, until you hit N mode and it just wants to GO. You can feel the car wanting to speed up, and in the turns it actively claws at the ground to pull you out of corners. Even just highway driving, you can easily find yourself cruising 20MPH faster than you thought you were. This car feels absolutely rock solid and it responds to whatever you ask for, going exactly where you ask it to go with speed and precision. It actually reminds me of driving a little-brother version of my buddy's M3, which I guess isn't a surprise given the pedigree behind N design. If there were no badges, you could easily believe this is a German car. I'm also baffled by certain reviews that say the suspension is too stiff and gets uncomfortable, as I found it the perfect balance of comfort and connection to the road. I took my 65-year-old mother for a drive and unprompted she actually commented how good it felt.
ODDITIES: The cupholders are a bit weird. Center armrest storage space could be bigger. Seat adjustor bar is a bit hard to reach. So far, just minor little things that don't ultimately matter that much.
OVERALL: It's as good as they say it is.
Hyundai is killing it these days and Subaru is just getting killed. Hyundai is doing everything right with the N line and they are on my short list to replace our 2014 WRX. I don't know WTF Subaru is thinking. The 2022 WRX was a total let down on performance and looks. Some of the choices they made (you can only get the adjustable suspension and nice seats on a CVT???) are just insane. "Don't worry, just wait for the STi...." Lol. How did that work out?
subaru is dead as a car brand for enthutiast
STI is dead and N is coming up... Wow
Subaru left quality & durability years ago.
As a subaru fan, this is indeed pathetic. The 2022 WRX is a joke. Even when the 15+ WRX’s came out, you could tell it was on its last legs.
STI is dead
WRX murdered by Subaru
Thanks 🤬
Forget Elantra vs WRX... Can we just all agree that Reese lost to Kurt?
Kurt is much better driver for sure
FINALLY, I'm seeing some "Elantra N versus _____" videos... I want more of these! I think it's pretty exciting that Hyundai has entered the scene that's normally dominated by Subaru, Volkswagen, and Honda. More compare/contrast stuff that includes the Elantra N, please!
Knew the Elantra N would slay. U-Drag is brilliant & should become a standard. Btw, 62 - 124 mph measurement is very informative, just saying...
its brilliant but inconsistent. The WRX driver looked like he thought the race was over after the drag race but then remembered it was a u-turn race. You can tell since he slowed down. Regardless, the Elantra definitely has the better steering, but in a drag race , the AWD from the WRX would win it the drag race.
@@georgehugeabutt9947 no, is hasnt better steering. it just hard and synthetic
@@vp6087 it's 100% better . Drive it
This video showcased how the driver makes all the difference. He roasted the N off the line in the WRX. And then he roasted the WRX off the line in the N with only FWD.
Well…the N still won even with that heinous start so case closed lmao
But the driver didn’t make the difference…the Elantra destroyed in both races lol
I feel like both the drivers kinda botched it. I launch my '17 WRX premium way better than those two.
@@jacobdicicco2044 yes but the N won by a MUCH larger margin in the second race. And in the first race the WRX flew past the Elantra at launch. Second race, FWD N stayed right with it. And murdered the WRX buy a huge and much larger margin than in the first race. Just showcasing that even though the N is a far superior driver's car, the driver also makes a difference, even if the N will take it every time. Planning on getting one myself soon as I sell my mk7 R
@@jc.1157 So true! It proves the EN is the faster vehicle even with a crappy driver 😆
Great race. Looking forward to seeing how the N is classed for autocross and how it fairs against stuff like the Civic Type R and such.
It has been classed already at D, together with veloster and Kona
@@shortroundChris oh dang, so it did get lumped in with the Civic Type R and Focus RS. Interesting to see how it does there.
i was thinking the same thing, love to see this with the civic
@@shortroundChris there a TH-camr who has a dct and he raced a few cars like sti type r and golf r
@@jaymoo5674 yah thats a real showdown against the type R
Well this just completely validates my purchase of a new Elantra N (called Sedan N here in Australia). I’ve always been a Subie fan and owned 2 Subarus over the years. I’ve always driven manuals but I just bought the Sedan N in auto and I couldn’t be happier! The Rexy has a cult following but Subaru didn’t do enough to get my business on this occasion. I would love to see the same race done with the Elantra N DCT! It’s even faster 😎
LOL in korea called avante N
Subaru has really gone downhill the last few years.
@@user-SoulGoblin I wish it was called Avante in Australia! Much better name
@@mitchjames9350 WRX는 내리막길을 내려온게 아닌 발전이 없었다가 더 옳다라고 생각합니다. 반면에 현대는 중국차에 뒤쳐지고 경쟁력을 잃기 싫었기 때문에 열심히 노력하여 무난하고 싸구려 이미지에서 벗어나기위해 매우 노력중입니다.
The DCT would absolutely destroy the Subaru.
Subaru's problem is that they've been standing still for too long and Hyundai not only caught up, but beat them
Not just Subaru most JDM brands are slow. But ya Subaru needs a push.
A Subaru on pavement is Michael Jordan playing baseball. Good on Hyundai for making a quick nimble car though
As a former STI owner, I'm glad I joined the Hyundai/KIA camp.
I'd be pretty upset to lose to a Hyundai, but the N is legit. That what Subaru gets for just minor improvements over the years, while other companies push it.
A subaru on pavement is Michael Jordan playing baseball. Too many have been made a pavement Princess though, why people expect them to hang in these sorts of tests
Love the Elantra N. Would love to see it go against the new GR86 in a not so traditional matchup
Or MIATA
I still think the N would fare well against the GR86. Torque curve was vastly improved on the GR86 but the 86 was never about power. N is basically a muscle car compared to the GR86.
Elantra N would shred the GR86 in a drag context, even with the turn. There's just too much of a power difference (at least the 86 won't have the WRX's boost lag, hahaha)
That said, would be great to compare the handling as the 86 is amazing in that dept.
(coming from a Subaru-bleeding happy BRZ owner)
The GR86 probably dances better but the N destroys it where power matters.
장담합니다. Miata와 GR86은 Elantra N을 절대로 못 이깁니다. 적어도 Type R 수동변속기, GR Yaris 수동변속기 정도돼야 비슷할 겁니다.
This is amazing!!!!!!! And to top it off the Hyundai comes with a 100k Mile Warranty…..
Unbelievable. Also I love this race format!
@@layne4376 I never had that issue with hyundai. Turbo sensor kept bringing the check engine light on took it to the dealer 3 different times last time I took it it had 88k. I've had my elantra sport coming up in the 5th year it has 140k 1.6t 6 speed. Original clutch. Car is a blessing.
@@layne4376 do you know how many people buy Hyundai? Are you really trying to make a point by pivoting the "thousands?"
@@layne4376 "Yawn" because despite how eager you were previously writing those long comments, being refuted with logic and common sense leaves you with no option for retaliation.
Honestly I’ve known about edmunds for 15ish years and have never gone to the site or thought about it. But this format of testing has sold me on your channel haha. It is informative, fun and makes me want to have local drag strips try and implement this if possible because I want to race this locally.
Please keep up this series, new cars are awesome but for some longevity and nostalgia please try and find classic rivals of the 90s and 2000s to do this race in both stock and modded versions if possible!
This sold you? The wrx had a killed launch the first run but the second time got beat off the launch. That should not happen. The wrx should win the launch against the elantra every single time without a question. It has way more traction.
Lunch control with the DCT Elantra N would demolish the WRX front start
That's what I need to work on,lunch control...
@@skyscourge5663 lol
Saw one being dropped off and they look better in person then in videos . Love to see Hyundai push the envelope and make these other car companies work. Thanks b man!!
Not just quick stock, the new turbo inlet on the N's makes easy 340 of a map and pretty easy 390 to 400 with supporting mods and stage 2 map! Add a dct to the N and that scobby needs a good 450bhp to stand a chance and even then I feel the dct would make the difference. Things have changed a lot in the last decade!! As a Scooby owner for many years I'd never ever believed all this if you'd told me this just a few years back! Seriously considering an i30N here in the UK. Great vid btw, best drag format around currently.
Hyundai has come a long way in the past couple of years and on top of them running better they look pretty good these days too they are making some good looking cars they pretty much have the sport compact market filled up since Ford quit making sport compacts Hyundai's are the way to go.
Really enjoying these U drag videos. My only complaint is that it is so new that i cant binge watch them. Cant wait for more.
I have just over 1200 miles on my N. Love it. I have had 3 wrxs and a mustang. By far this is my favorite car. When that boost kicks in it is so much fun. Also round a bouts are so much fun. Insane how that car eats turns. The more gas you give it the faster the inner wheel goes to keep you in the turn.
just a good natured note-- the "outer" wheel gets more torque with the LSD, hence improving the ability of the car to rotate under power...
I'm glad you finally came out of the closet. YAY
I LOVE mine. Got mine in the performance blue and it’s such a beauty. It launches so smoothly, handles amazingly and feels so nice overall. Best car purchase I have ever made.
KDM cars are underrated dude! These new Hyundai N cars, Kia K5, Stinger and Genesis too maybe? Excellent selection of cars from the Korean giants
Now THAT was a great comparison for everyday drivers!!! Learned some new stuff with that one.
Performance Blue 6-spd on the ground yesterday. Everything I hoped for and more. 53 year old long time sport-compact Gti, WRX,ST, RS, owner......nobody is building anything like this anymore.
Duuuuuude. This race format is AWESOME! Would love to see how the GTI and Si do.
A single WRX got into the Nurburgring and completed. Multiple Elantras from multiple teams went into the Nurburgring and 2 of them fell apart before the day was up.
Stay mad 😂
I have a 2014 WRX (my first ever) and overall it’s a fun car, but I wouldn’t call it fast. It’s punchy and on a twisty road a lot of fun, plus I love the look of it. However after thinking about it, I wouldn’t buy another WRX due to the fact they aren’t actually that quick or powerful. Case in point I didn’t realise an i30N has more power than my WRX. It’s quite sad that Subaru don’t seem to want to make more power out of the engine. A modern 4 cylinder sports car should be making at least 300HP now in 2022, com’on Subaru.
Right there with you I’ve had my for 7 months and already had to put a new engine in the car I won’t ever buy other wrx they are money pits think my next option in a civic type R 😈
Damn that sucks you had to put a new engine in! Funny you mention the Type-R, because I had the chance to buy a 2018 Type-R in 2019 for about $48,000AUD but didn’t want to spend that much at the time. Thanks to Covid they are worth about $55,000AUD now. The one that got away.
Subarus are made to be modded. How many car company's do warranty work on catless tuned cars? Subaru does. There are limits to that but they are known for it. Subaru isn't about being fast. It's about becoming fast. Subaru and dodge are the last 2 companies that make cars for real motorheads. Though there will be no sti 2022 model year so this may be an end to a jdm era like the evo a sad day for the manual transmission and boxer engine.
Same here! I have a 2013 hatchback, when i heard they got rid of hatchbacks i was pissed because that is all i like. Then next gens had pathetic power increase. Then i started getting sick of how much gas it consumes especially having to use premium is too much. I am currently looking for other brands.
@@CharacterZero89 That's the issue. One shouldn't have to modify their car to make it fast, it should be able to compete with other brands out of the box. Modding takes a lot of time and effort which most people don't have. Also here in Australia Hyundai N cars are the ONLY cars that you can take on a race track without voiding the manufacturers warranty.
You mentioned the equipment was working the 2nd race, so why no performance numbers (0-60, 1/4 mile, cornering G) like previous U-Drags? I love the format, but it is far better, when you give the subjective numbers in addition to the objective driver reviews. Keep up the good work.
Exactly. Gotta love the fact they never had the numbers from the first race, where the guy who could drive blew away the Elantra in the 1/4 mile
Agreed with your point, though i think you meant "objective numbers/subjective review"
@@TAGE_FPV
I probably did, I always struggle to get those 2 right. 🤦♂️
I always see everyone turning on Sport Mode or Performance Mode for all the other cars when comparing them to a WRX but I never see anyone put the WRX into Trac Mode by pressing and holding the traction control down for a few seconds. This is supposed to help with the power distribution to the wheels because it locks the differential and doesn't cut power. I'm just curious why no one does this for any of these tests against a WRX?
You're thinking auto box subarus
@@anthonyi2221 nope my manual wrx has the same traction control off button
Yes I understand that, I also have a manual WRX but you're not understanding is turning off tracking control does not affect the power on the manual boxes... You actually don't even understand your own car.. the differential does not lock. It's an open diff on the WRX. Traction control is controlled with the rear brakes.. open differential is in the middle.. only the STI has locking differentials
@@anthonyi2221 not faster as in more hp, as in it doesn’t cut power due to wheel slip
I'm not at all surprised with the results because WRX is an overestimated car but all Hyundai N-Series are underestimated.
Bought a '02 WRX wagon new and kept it 17 years. Dropped the clutch two times. Once in heavy rain just to see what it would do. Second time, pulling out on a blind corner only to discover a car was coming. REALLY, wanted the new WRX to be my new car. Can't get passed the plastic cladding & 3 hp increase. Drove a Kona N, liked a lot of things but no manual. Elantra may be it
How about an older wrx like 2015-2021?
@@dgwolf-1077 Replaced the '02 with it's twin a low mileage '05. Looked for a later model hatch but couldn't find one that hadn't been tuned/hammered.
I'd still take the WRX, but I'm glad to see other companies building this type of car.
I have a Elantra,it has great steering especially on curves, so Elantra N will much better.
The N has more torque, around the same horsepower and it weighs around 200lbs less than the WRX, not surprised actually, but impressed.
That 200lbs. Doesn’t matter I got the dct version I was on hwy had full tank gas and 2 passengers. In my car. Went from 60 mph to 140. And I gapped a newer wrx. Bus lengths. This car is impressive I can’t complain. Or find one thing I don’t like about the car I’m just blown away specially from a damn Hyundai.
@@Mmb0927 I think it's the 3rd time you talk about the "full tank of gas and 2 passengers"...we know ! Thanks. (just pulling your leg...don't get mad !) LOL
Please keep doing these videos, this was entertaining and informative.
Very interesting and innovative addition to the common TH-cam drag race format. Especially appreciate how you are including some more 'normal' cars.
The Hyundai N models have redefined front wheel drive performance cars. Good review and great drag concept guys!
The CTR does it already and is better at it.
But the Elantra N makes it more attainable and exciting
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Maybe in the US, in Europe front drive performance has been strong for decades
Two years ago I saw this video and I still bought the WRX and now I think they never competed on a dirt track, that's what the WRX was made for, I think it has no competition there.
Hyundai N are awesome cars
Only temporarily, no longevity unfortunately.
@@richardmichael59 yea right
in the second run the WRX didn't "struggle" to get going; the driver struggled to launch it well. I'm not trying to make excuses for the car, a loss is a loss, and I think the N really is better overall. But lets be real here lol, the WRX should ALWAYS win off the line in this match up
Yea the Elantra N didn't get an amazing launch, its the WRX that had a poor launch in the second race
This format is great! Looking forward to seeing more!
N is surely for real. DCT is also faster.
Go Hyundai N!
I ran a 2020 STi in my 2017 Elantra Sport 6 speed on the highway, his was stock and I had an upgraded hot intercooler pipe, intake, and a piggyback ECU. Even with ~60ish less hp I had no problem walking away at highway speeds. Hyundai is and has been making strides where other former “enthusiast” brands are disappointing. Sold it for more than I paid when the car market got hot last year. Miss it, but I don’t miss the tickets and points on my license.
Make that during winter in the snow and will see who will win !
Hmm as a driver of a WRX sti I believe that the driving style of both drivers are not driving an all wheel drive car as it should be. Chris Atkinson explains how to drive all wheel drive WRXs. When turning into a corner you dont power through the corner in an all wheel drive, you need to let the car cruise through the corner then once your out of the corner thats where you apply more power.
Yea they only wanted to keep boost, but thats not wrx friendly
Great there-and-back format for racing.
This is a really novel drag layout. Surprised this wasn't thought of sooner, or more popular. Hopefully others will take "inspiration" from this. These races shows a lot about the car, then just a quarter mile down some stretch of road.
Both cars are awesome. Hyundai has put a lot of money towards research & development, Subaru just took the engine out of a Subaru Accent & stopped here
Gents didn't know how to launch a WRX but that doesn't take away from the good performance of the Hyundai.
I support Hyundai because they have come a long way. I remember them being the butt of jokes in the car community as though it was yesterday. Oh but then the Tiburon came in the mid 90s and messed that up. Soon Hyundai began making more performance oriented vehicles and they've now got their own performance badge a subsidiary, which also had their own performance badge known as GT and a luxury brand. They also have a huge influence in rallying. Now the tilted H is getting the last laugh.
They're getting the last laugh...at you all who are supporting them. Where in hell do you think they've gained every single piece of their technology? None of it came from the minds of their engineers. It came from the minds of the engineers of every other car builder out there. A car company that can just sit back and cherry-pick everyone else's design ideas and technological breakthroughs--then mix them all together and act like they accomplished something far and beyond the others--deserves blind customers who could never discern which one was Shinola.
Love the new testing/video format! Much better than just a drag race. Kudos!
These new Hyundai’s though, wow!
Never thought I'd say this but the Elantra actually looks better than the new WRX.
This was AWESOME!!!!!! Who's next? U-Drag is the best show on TH-cam!!!! Next up maybe VW GTI or Civic Type R or the VW Golf R what do you think?
First time watcher, great video format. Well done. Subscribed. Oh also THANK YOU FOR TIME STAMPS
Hyundai has been doing big things. I've had my 13 Genesis coupe 3.8 since release and it's been really good, and I was thinking of buying the Veloster N, but this damn Elantra N is stout also. I'm waiting for these overly high marked up car prices to hopefully drop, then I'll decide. Kudos to Hyundai
Subaru fan boys are feelin the pain.....
The Elantra N with DCT murders the WRX on that test.
The duel clutch in the Elantra is a touch faster than the manual.
What a fantastic little car the Elantra is!
Loving the U-drags! So much info from one race 💪
I’m always excited for these videos!
HYUNDAI is just so IMPRESSIVE nowadays especially the N-line.
Just N; N Line is the watered down wannabe performance version...
And that boys and girls is the reason why there is no STI.
The biggest merit of Elantra N is IDA(Integrated Drive Axle). This drive axle usually applied on super cars.
God this is so depressing. Subaru shit the bed with the new WRX...and the STI is dead. Great job Hyundai. You deserve everyone’s money over Subaru.
Ahh battle of the fungly cars
I own a VB though easy to tune and awd
Better then M4. wow... Big statement.
And I like it. ♡
"Better steering" Don't get crazy. 😂
Really liked how you guys set up this video
Great race! But since you guys already have these cars, can you also do normal comparison video out in the street on these please ?
I love the new Elantra
Hyundai makes way more power at the wheel. That's what happened.
The Elantra N DCT also beat the STI. Love the Elantra N
Oh man. The new WRX really is a gigantic disappointment and not just in the looks department.
Yep. 3 more horsepower is such a joke.
I have a hold down on a cyber grey Elentra N with 6MT. Delivery mid to late May in North Carolina. So pumped for my first new car at 26.
The only thing subaru has been good at in recent years is disappointing their fans. :/
100%!! I gave up on them and got kona N lol
Hyundai and Kia are killing it. I recommend Kia Stinger as well. Amazing car for the money.
I love U-drags!
As a 19 STI owner i would say sunset of building sport cars for subaru is close.... Its just sad to see where other auto makers reach past decades and subaru still punching 5 to 10hp more on powerplants .... With STI been canceled i m almost positive Subaru is on the road to be a SUV only production after 2030 ....
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Awesome video! Hyundai ain't playing games anymore.
Subaru detuned the manual WRX so it wouldn't embarrass the CVT version, which can't handle the power. A simple tune and it kills the N.
More U-drag please
I love this, please do more! Put it against the civic type r and Golf R.
Great racing! That N has the Pilot Sport 4S so that gives it a clear advantage
This needs to be the top comment. Tires make a HUGE difference.
I honestly think the elantra N could beat the sti too. I drove both but drove my cousin's STI more and i can tell you the handling is atrocious!!!
@@shortroundChris it gapped a modded sti just look up elantra n vs sti
@@DKfleming yah i think ive seen that one. Pretty wild. Claps to Hyundai. I'm in process of picking a veloster up haha.
@@shortroundChris getting ready to place a order for my elantra N congrats to you bro!!
I've owned Subarus since they brought their turbo engines to the US, but my girlfriend's turbo Kona is very impressive. Sort of a modern bugeye wagon WRX. Throw in Hyundai standing behind their cars while Subaru.. doesn't.. and I'm looking hard at the Kona N..
Loving U-drags. Try Bronco Sport vs. Jeeps and/or Rav4.
Is the winner the truck that does the most barrel rolls trying to take that corner at speed?
Great videos, loving this style. For awd, don't just dump the cluch, slip it. Its faster and not abusive on the car.
Pick up my N in 2 weeks. Even though the manual is a hair slower, I had to go 6spd. Save the stick shifts! I just can't figure out why only the DCTs get a sunroof
That's awesome, congrats. To answer your question, it's because Hyundai figures if you choose the manual, then you are more than likely someone that really cares about performance and wants the most structurally rigid and lightest car for handling on a track for example. A sunroof adds weight where you really don't want it, and disrupts the center of gravity. That said though, it would be really missed on the street. It should at least be a stand alone option imo, for the one's that will never make it to a track.
@@wbwayne8887 if you really cared about performance you'd get the DCT though lol. I'd get a manual with sunroof if they were available
Only in the US, here in canada and the rest of the world gets sundroof on a manual trans with heated steering wheel too ahha
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I respectfully disagree, unless I was only concerned with straight-line acceleration.
@@commentmancommentman1658 shiiiittt