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I put the Method MR703 Bead Grip wheels on my GX 550 Overtrail with Toyo Open Country AT III 35" tires. I'll never go back to standard wheels. They are lighter than bead lock, legal everywhere and perfect for everything but the toughest competition off-roading. I love them.
@@OutdoorAuto: I love it. I have a buddy that got the Land Cruiser 1958 at about the same time and they are both great trucks. The GX has the twin turbo 6 while the LC has a hybrid single turbo 4 and it enjoys much better mileage. The advantage of building out the LC is that accessories are coming to market much faster since they sell a lot more LC's than GX's. But the GX 550 Overtrail is a dream to drive and I have absolutely no regrets. So far I've added a Westcott Designs Preload Collar lift, Toyo Open Country AT III 35x12.5x17 tires with Method bead grips wheels, Westcott full length roof rack, Lexus/LC rock rails and a PPF wrap. I'm waiting for bumpers, beefier rock rails, and a GX 550 specific suspension system to be developed. But with the preload collar lift and 35's it's capable of doing a lot of wheeling. The tires brought my ground clearance from 8.9" to 10.5". I'm not sure how much the lift improved the 26º factory approach angle. I'm having a drawer system with sleeping platform built now and I'm taking it to Moab for a week in October to shake it down "slick rock style"!
This is by far the best Method Bead Grip info out here. Awesome man, and thank you! I am so, so, so happy I bought mine. I have no problems at 7lbs, and have gone lower accidentally and it seems ok. Skeert to go further...
Great video Nate, ive been rocking my beadgrips for a year and a bit now, and I'm honestly impressed. They have out shined normal wheels at even 10psi.
I wish you had made this video 6 months ago when I was shopping for new tires. I ended up sticking with the 15x8 steel rock crawler wheels and put 35" Mickey Thompson Baja Boss MTs on my '89 Ramcharger. Now, after watching this video, I'm certain that 17x9 BeadGrips will be installed the next time I change tires. Thank you for putting together such a complete video from a non-sales point of view.
This video was a result of so many people asking me about the wheels… it’s pretty great to be able to just make videos that actually answer real questions…
@OutdoorAuto So many of the videos I watched months ago all "talked" about the benefits of the BeadGrip technology, and a few even showed the trucks off roading with supposedly very low psi in the tires, but this can't be verified simply by trusting the truthfulness of the video. Specially what I liked and appreciated about your video is the fact that you "showed" exactly how difficult it is to remove the tire from the wheel. The truthfulness of your video is never in question because once the first bead is broken, you can plainly see that there’s no air pressure holding the tire in place and the remaining bead is still difficult to remove.Thank you for producing such great and truly informative videos. I personally really appreciate it.
I have method bead grips on my Polaris Rzr. They hold on great. Had one tire get a massive sidewall puncture about 20 miles from the trailer and had to drive on a completely flat tire. Rim was fine and still had to fight to get the tire off the rim. Now, 3 of the 4 have and pretty good rock rash along the outside rim edge and i have had to use some bead sealant to stop air leaks. Don't necessarily thing it is an issue with rims as i have abused the rims and my buddy's tire machine can be a little rough on the beads of the tires. Still going to get them on my jeep.
Hey, I love that you don't take manufacturers by their word and actually try and figure out what is going on. Super cool and I wish more people did that. I believe it would be super interesting if you compared this to the new Konig Hyper Trail wheels as it appears they stoll a bit of Method's homework and are offering them at a considerably lower price.
They are huge in the tuner sports car relm. They make rims for other brands but the Hyper Trail is the first time they have made a truck wheel under their name.
I have the 703 beadgrips, and love them. I sheard off a valve stem a few weeks ago during a charity off-road run and two people looked at the flat tire and just declared to the rest of the group that I had de-beaded a tire. Haad to have been debeaded. No way a non-beadlock would still be on the rim. Got the tire swapped out with my spare and moved to a safe spot to work on the flat and another guy comes over and starts stomping on the sidewall. I tell him that's not going to work. "I do this all the time at work. If this isn't a beadlock it'll come off". So I let him wear himself out then I used a high lift to break the bead. The only thing I don't like about them is the valve stem placement. I don't know a lot about wheel construction but moving the valve away from the lip and angling it more perpendicular to the rim might have made a difference in my situation.
I need these badddddddd. Every snow wheeling trip I pop at least 1 bead. I'll start looking for some sales haha. Thanks for showing how good these actually are.
Great video I run rock monsters a lot easier to mount and dismount than regular beadlocks. And the hold both sides of a tire basically can almost run flat if you don’t have Tpms sensors in them.
I got them for my 100 Series Land Cruiser as soon as they came out and will never buy another standard wheel for an off-road/overlanding vehicle and will run these unless and until an even more secure DOT approved option arrives. Big fan. It does seem foolish that they won’t partner with you man, that is disappointing.
I got the same exact set you have on your tundra brother, love them, great review. The guys at the local tire shop hate me😂. I hope and pray that they hook you up after all of your hard work and great review
Love your vids man. Last summer I just bought my very first set of method wheels and I love them. They look so awesome on my XJ. Mine don't have the bead grip though. But they were much better priced than I thought they'd be.$320/wheel Canadian x5 lol 16x9's. Keep slamming out the great vids man👍
We went with ICONS. Love them. We got them on sale. Still steep. But, they're awesome. Got them down to single digits and they work without debeading. Can't speak highly enough about them.
Thanks for the video. I have actually thought about these wheels. When you guys were snow wheeling, the air pressure went down due to the temperature, not the elevation change (Gay-Lussac's Law). Boyle’s Law states a gas volume increases with less pressure. If the temperature remained the same your tire pressure should have increased the higher you went. The temperature was impacting your tire pressure more than the increased elevation. Sorry, geeked out a little bit.
Absolutely the best rims on the market before stepping to bead locks. I have run 1-3PSI hundreds of times on my truck in the winter. Never, i repeat, never lost a bead. I run Falken AT3Ws in 265 75 r16. They turn into tank tracks and crawl on top on the BC interior snow super well. I have zero complaints. And man, they look so damn good in bronze on my barcelona red 22 taco. *chefs kiss*
I have a set of Method 701s on my 4Runner and have taken it down to about 5 PSI to get through snow banks with confidence. I've never taken non-beadgrips down that low so I don't have a good comparison other than being willing to push them harder
The Method Bead Grip wheels seem to retain the bead a little better than standard wheels do, but I went with Icon's Rebound Pro wheels because their InnerLock bolts provide a much more positive bead retention. Plus, like the Methods, they're 100% DOT approved.
I would like to test those… they definitely have a lot more parts… curious about long term issues if any… especially under massive abuse… my most beat up methods are absolutely trashed… but still work great.
Great video! I’ve been looking at these and wondering if it was snake oil or not. I’m definitely gonna be looking into these now as beadlocks are illegal in my state on road. So much for the Live Free or Die state, lol!
Ive got 703s. Had them at 9psi in soft soft sand. Some sand got stuck under the bead, made it a slow leak. After 2 hours of stopping and pumping them up every 15 minutes, they came good and stopped leaking. After 3 days of holding pressure and over 1000kms of driving woke up and it was flat again. Turns out the bead grip design is goid at holding sand in them. Not blaming the rims at all, take from thos what you will. Just sharing my experience.
I picked up some Method bead grip rims last year for my rig. Couldn't pass up the deal at $100/rim. Just saving up for some nice 35's to wrap around them!
@11:24 excactly, depends on your offroad level needs, moderate or severe. As for myself, I stick with mfr originals since I run taller 255 tires for height and less rolling resistance wear. I don't want 9" wide rims. I still can air down to 10psi without issue.
as always. always! great information. great examples. great explanation. thank you! I ran Method BG on my Jeep Gladiator. sold that truck bought a built LX570 and came with ICON's version "Inner Lock" curious if you could get a set of those and try same test. would be interested! thanks!
Novice overlander here, at what psi do you think the beadgrip can really make a difference? If I don't air down less that 15-18 psi, would this feature matter much? And oh, love your channel! Ended up buying the Top Oak tent after your review. Very informative and no BS channel.
I am aware, I actually say that later in the video... I tend to explain things first without Jargon... then add it in latter... my channel mostly teaches people that don't know the jargon.
Have you ever had any trouble getting these to balance? I’m running a set of BFGs with 703s and they are cupping pretty bad. I’m leaning more towards bad tire than i am bad wheel but thought id check since you have more experience
No issues with the wheel being the issues… ko2’s can sometimes be hard to balance… but more often cupping is alignment related… and it is crazy hard to find a good alignment shop. If you are in a toyota you should check your cam tabs…. This videos details some of those issues th-cam.com/video/RSgCJGcNpYc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7h_3c-tsaoPhQskg
Hey! I want to hear your take on my situation. I love the RRw wheels and the Ssw Dakar’s but they only make a 17”. I tried an rrw and it was kilometers away from hitting the caliper/rotor (the barrel of the wheel. I notice a lot of tundras have 17’s but I have the trd sport and tow package and come to find out people think that this package has a bigger rotor and caliper?? Can’t find anything on the forums about it and it’s very difficult to find a good looking 18” wheel in a tundra lug pattern now days
So it gets tricky. As far as I know you can put a 17 on any Tundra before 2022. I have a 2018 that has the Tow package and I have 17’s on it… However, it is super tight and sometime when the tire guys try to add weights they put them exactly at the tightest point and they run… but if you have a tire guy that knows anything, that is easy to get around.
@@OutdoorAuto okay thank you so much for getting back to me! I contacted SSW off-road and they said there 17 would not fit with the tow package. I couldn’t imagine other companies would have a different shaped/ sized 17 inch wheel?? And with it being super tight, is that concerning for you? Mine was millimeters away from the barrel
They probably can’t actually support because they don’t actually fit on a FJ80 unless you use a spacer or machine the lip in the hub opening to allow to slide through.
if I didnt have real beadlocks.... I would buy these... and honestly might buy them for my Ram 2500 tow rig. & I will likely buy them for a rig for my son in a couple of years
I’m putting the next set I buy on an f250 I use for getting firewood in the mountains… it gets stuck a lot and it be nice to be able to air down lower… I definitely think they can one in handy even on big rigs
At what PSI should i consider these vs regular rims? Any reason to get these when going to around 20 psi on Frontier? And I wonder about their weight vs stock rims...apologies if I missed it in the video
There is kinda two ways to look at it... if you stay above 18-20 psi and pair that with sensible driving you are fine with pretty much any wheel... so no need for bead grips. Where they can still come into play is if you ever get stuck... being able to air down to single digits a lot of times is enough to be able to get unstuck so in that case they can still be nice to have for emergencies... but definitely not necessary for your everyday use. As far as weight they are allow wheels and run really light compared to most stock rims.
I’ve heard that people who are running Mickey Thompson Baja Boss’, that have a thicker bead, that there are issues with getting them to seat on the Bead Grips. Have you heard anything?
@@OutdoorAuto I remember you mentioning that you had ran the MT BB's before, so I figured you'd be able to answer that. But I'm still curious as to why others have had issues. (It was a while back, so I don't remember which videos they were.)
@@OutdoorAuto Did you run the AT or MT? Maybe there is a difference in bead width. Also some sizes of MTs are being phased out, maybe it's a fix for the seating issue
I have actually never lost a bead on a trail with these... but I have changed a lot of tires with them... you can always use the starter fluid trick/fire trick to seat them super fast... definitely works... but because of how gradual the middle slopes it holds air pretty easy past the bead and bead hump... biggest issue is to fully reseat it sometimes you have to air it up to around 50 psi and then air back down to your running psi.
Are Methods really THAT good? I'm almost inclined to get something else bc they won't sponsor, you, the best wheel/tire content creator that also overlands. Hope they sposor you sometime soon. Thanks for this!
I have been really impressed with them in some pretty crazy hits while snow wheeling. I hit a snow bank going sideways last year at 1 PSI and I couldn’t believe they held.
@@OutdoorAuto Wow, ok. I guess I'm just the type who looks for something other than the most popular, but I'm not loathe to become part of the consensus. Thanks again!
I was watching another youtuber who had Bead grip wheels. The first day he went wheeling with it, the tire came off the beads. I would just save up and get real bead locks if you guys really need it.
Bead aren't DOT approved.. so they really aren't an alternative to Bead Grips.... its not like you just "save up" and get something else... one you have to trailer your vehicle everywhere... the other you still can use your vehicle as a daily. On top of that... 1 guy debeading a tire, is still just one guy debeading a tire... fact still remains... they are a huge upgrade to normal wheels.
Meh. Even real beadlocks will debead under the right circumstances if they're only locked on the outer side. It's an improvement, but I wouldn't gamble on it at very low psi more than a regular old wheel.
I disagree with this video as he didnt even try to remove it the same way, as a guy that did tires for 10+ years it looked to me like it would have came off in the same amount of times. By showing each removed differently you can be 100%.......
😂… I change them differently because the other way doesn’t work on bead grips… but by all means assume you know more when you have never even used them.
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Awesome video, we're proud of our Bead Grip wheels and are stoked you made this video.🤘
Love my Methods. I've gone down to 6 in the snow and 8 in the sand with them!
I put the Method MR703 Bead Grip wheels on my GX 550 Overtrail with Toyo Open Country AT III 35" tires. I'll never go back to standard wheels. They are lighter than bead lock, legal everywhere and perfect for everything but the toughest competition off-roading. I love them.
How are you liking that 550… I want to do a build on one of those in the future
@@OutdoorAuto: I love it. I have a buddy that got the Land Cruiser 1958 at about the same time and they are both great trucks. The GX has the twin turbo 6 while the LC has a hybrid single turbo 4 and it enjoys much better mileage. The advantage of building out the LC is that accessories are coming to market much faster since they sell a lot more LC's than GX's. But the GX 550 Overtrail is a dream to drive and I have absolutely no regrets. So far I've added a Westcott Designs Preload Collar lift, Toyo Open Country AT III 35x12.5x17 tires with Method bead grips wheels, Westcott full length roof rack, Lexus/LC rock rails and a PPF wrap. I'm waiting for bumpers, beefier rock rails, and a GX 550 specific suspension system to be developed. But with the preload collar lift and 35's it's capable of doing a lot of wheeling. The tires brought my ground clearance from 8.9" to 10.5". I'm not sure how much the lift improved the 26º factory approach angle. I'm having a drawer system with sleeping platform built now and I'm taking it to Moab for a week in October to shake it down "slick rock style"!
This is by far the best Method Bead Grip info out here. Awesome man, and thank you!
I am so, so, so happy I bought mine. I have no problems at 7lbs, and have gone lower accidentally and it seems ok. Skeert to go further...
I have Method 703 Bead Grips getting delivered this week. I didnt even see you had a video and this makes my confidence in them even more!
A true hands-on wheel and tire installation and removal video. Great job. Thank you so much.
Great video Nate, ive been rocking my beadgrips for a year and a bit now, and I'm honestly impressed.
They have out shined normal wheels at even 10psi.
Method this guy just sold a bunch of wheels. Well at least 5 from me 😂
Ha, thanks 🙏- I do have to give @methodracewheels credit for making a product it’s been pretty easy to get behind
I will very likely be getting some whenever I find a good sale in my size as my 2nd set of wheels.
I wish you had made this video 6 months ago when I was shopping for new tires. I ended up sticking with the 15x8 steel rock crawler wheels and put 35" Mickey Thompson Baja Boss MTs on my '89 Ramcharger. Now, after watching this video, I'm certain that 17x9 BeadGrips will be installed the next time I change tires. Thank you for putting together such a complete video from a non-sales point of view.
This video was a result of so many people asking me about the wheels… it’s pretty great to be able to just make videos that actually answer real questions…
@OutdoorAuto So many of the videos I watched months ago all "talked" about the benefits of the BeadGrip technology, and a few even showed the trucks off roading with supposedly very low psi in the tires, but this can't be verified simply by trusting the truthfulness of the video. Specially what I liked and appreciated about your video is the fact that you "showed" exactly how difficult it is to remove the tire from the wheel. The truthfulness of your video is never in question because once the first bead is broken, you can plainly see that there’s no air pressure holding the tire in place and the remaining bead is still difficult to remove.Thank you for producing such great and truly informative videos. I personally really appreciate it.
I have method bead grips on my Polaris Rzr. They hold on great. Had one tire get a massive sidewall puncture about 20 miles from the trailer and had to drive on a completely flat tire. Rim was fine and still had to fight to get the tire off the rim. Now, 3 of the 4 have and pretty good rock rash along the outside rim edge and i have had to use some bead sealant to stop air leaks. Don't necessarily thing it is an issue with rims as i have abused the rims and my buddy's tire machine can be a little rough on the beads of the tires. Still going to get them on my jeep.
I run Methods on my 2nd gen ram 24v cummins
37x12.5x17
Great wheels
Does all this extra “tire work” damage the tire at all ?
Hey, I love that you don't take manufacturers by their word and actually try and figure out what is going on. Super cool and I wish more people did that. I believe it would be super interesting if you compared this to the new Konig Hyper Trail wheels as it appears they stoll a bit of Method's homework and are offering them at a considerably lower price.
I actually don't know Konig... I will have to check out what they are doing...
Thanks for the heads up...
They are huge in the tuner sports car relm. They make rims for other brands but the Hyper Trail is the first time they have made a truck wheel under their name.
Yeah going from Ford Factory beadlocks to these in the next few weeks. This helped clinched my decision.
Thank you for making a real review on the bead grip.
Once I started changing my own tires I had a whole new level of respect for these… figured someone should show that angle on these wheels
I have the 703 beadgrips, and love them. I sheard off a valve stem a few weeks ago during a charity off-road run and two people looked at the flat tire and just declared to the rest of the group that I had de-beaded a tire. Haad to have been debeaded. No way a non-beadlock would still be on the rim.
Got the tire swapped out with my spare and moved to a safe spot to work on the flat and another guy comes over and starts stomping on the sidewall. I tell him that's not going to work. "I do this all the time at work. If this isn't a beadlock it'll come off". So I let him wear himself out then I used a high lift to break the bead.
The only thing I don't like about them is the valve stem placement. I don't know a lot about wheel construction but moving the valve away from the lip and angling it more perpendicular to the rim might have made a difference in my situation.
I need these badddddddd. Every snow wheeling trip I pop at least 1 bead. I'll start looking for some sales haha. Thanks for showing how good these actually are.
Fixing busted beads in deep snow is no fun… I’d put a search notification on them on FB marketplace too… I’ve snagged deals there.
Love my method bead grips. I think mine are 703's. Running KO2 tires and will go with KO3's when time to replace.
Great video I run rock monsters a lot easier to mount and dismount than regular beadlocks. And the hold both sides of a tire basically can almost run flat if you don’t have Tpms sensors in them.
I'm going to have to keep this in mind down the road when I buy some new wheels.
I got them for my 100 Series Land Cruiser as soon as they came out and will never buy another standard wheel for an off-road/overlanding vehicle and will run these unless and until an even more secure DOT approved option arrives. Big fan.
It does seem foolish that they won’t partner with you man, that is disappointing.
I have the Method 704HD bead grip wheels and like them so far.
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I got the same exact set you have on your tundra brother, love them, great review. The guys at the local tire shop hate me😂. I hope and pray that they hook you up after all of your hard work and great review
lol… yeah tire shops aren’t fans… but they work so well
Love your vids man. Last summer I just bought my very first set of method wheels and I love them. They look so awesome on my XJ. Mine don't have the bead grip though. But they were much better priced than I thought they'd be.$320/wheel Canadian x5 lol 16x9's. Keep slamming out the great vids man👍
We went with ICONS. Love them. We got them on sale. Still steep. But, they're awesome. Got them down to single digits and they work without debeading. Can't speak highly enough about them.
Thanks for the video. I have actually thought about these wheels. When you guys were snow wheeling, the air pressure went down due to the temperature, not the elevation change (Gay-Lussac's Law). Boyle’s Law states a gas volume increases with less pressure. If the temperature remained the same your tire pressure should have increased the higher you went. The temperature was impacting your tire pressure more than the increased elevation. Sorry, geeked out a little bit.
Sorry you are right… I had it backwards… tires were almost flat but that was after we retreated back down to setup camp… good catch.
@@OutdoorAuto See all of those gas laws we had to learn when I was doing flight paramedic training came in handy. 😀
Same idea Land Rover used on Discovery 2 alloys. Nothing new here . That said it did work really well on Land Rover alloys
Nice one. You really like theri wheel and they seem cool!
Absolutely the best rims on the market before stepping to bead locks.
I have run 1-3PSI hundreds of times on my truck in the winter. Never, i repeat, never lost a bead. I run Falken AT3Ws in 265 75 r16. They turn into tank tracks and crawl on top on the BC interior snow super well. I have zero complaints.
And man, they look so damn good in bronze on my barcelona red 22 taco. *chefs kiss*
I bet the red and bronze is a pretty good look. Too bad you can’t post pictures in here.
@@OutdoorAuto it looks great. It is even making me think about color matching my sliders to the same bronze color.
I have a set of Method 701s on my 4Runner and have taken it down to about 5 PSI to get through snow banks with confidence. I've never taken non-beadgrips down that low so I don't have a good comparison other than being willing to push them harder
The Method Bead Grip wheels seem to retain the bead a little better than standard wheels do, but I went with Icon's Rebound Pro wheels because their InnerLock bolts provide a much more positive bead retention. Plus, like the Methods, they're 100% DOT approved.
I would like to test those… they definitely have a lot more parts… curious about long term issues if any… especially under massive abuse… my most beat up methods are absolutely trashed… but still work great.
Great video! I’ve been looking at these and wondering if it was snake oil or not. I’m definitely gonna be looking into these now as beadlocks are illegal in my state on road. So much for the Live Free or Die state, lol!
Buddy, I worked at discount tire for 4 years. And while it was when I was 17, it was tough watching that oem wheel bead break happen so slowly 😅
I have them on my XJ and I can run 5psi on snow with bfg k02 with no problems at all!!
They definitely make me more confident with running single digits.
@@OutdoorAuto I was running 10 psi on the Tundra with my KMC non beadlock and I debeaded the damn tire in the snow.....
Ive got 703s. Had them at 9psi in soft soft sand. Some sand got stuck under the bead, made it a slow leak. After 2 hours of stopping and pumping them up every 15 minutes, they came good and stopped leaking. After 3 days of holding pressure and over 1000kms of driving woke up and it was flat again. Turns out the bead grip design is goid at holding sand in them. Not blaming the rims at all, take from thos what you will. Just sharing my experience.
This is a great comment, I haven’t had this happen but I also don’t go in dunes too often… good thing for people to consider.
You should get some Icon rebound pro wheels to run and do a comparison video.
I disagree. Get the Recon Pro. :)
Those would work to.haha
I am game… hey @iconvehicledynamicstv want to help Outdoor Auto do detailed review of your wheels? Let us know.
If you wheel your daily, I would recommend method beadgrips
If you already have beadlocks, keep them.
If you wheel a lot and don’t want beadlocks, get these.
If you’re an overlander, a regular wheel will do.
All good points… snow wheeling and crawling are what pushed me into these.
Overlanding for some is bead lock worthy, but most are fine without like you said.
I had beadlocks and I used them a lot but if I can get something that isn't as heavy that would be nice.
I picked up some Method bead grip rims last year for my rig. Couldn't pass up the deal at $100/rim. Just saving up for some nice 35's to wrap around them!
What offset and backspacing are you running on your methods on your 80 series?
Did these wheels fit on the land cruiser without spacers?
Thanks
Bead grip rims are pretty awesome in design, a lot easier/faster to mount/dismount than true bead locks. With all that said Ill keep my bead locks
You are definitely a Bead lock candidate... they still have their place in extreme rock crawling.
Also way cheaper and lighter than beadlock wheels. A great alternative for most off-roaders
@11:24 excactly, depends on your offroad level needs, moderate or severe.
As for myself, I stick with mfr originals since I run taller 255 tires for height and less rolling resistance wear. I don't want 9" wide rims. I still can air down to 10psi without issue.
Everything in Off-road depends on actual use… I try to always work that in on my videos…
@@OutdoorAuto yes, I was agreeing with you
as always. always! great information. great examples. great explanation. thank you! I ran Method BG on my Jeep Gladiator. sold that truck bought a built LX570 and came with ICON's version "Inner Lock" curious if you could get a set of those and try same test. would be interested! thanks!
Yeah, I want to test the @iconvehicledynamicstv Icons for sure… more parts for sure but I’d love to test a set.
I really appreciate this break down. Thanks
Have method 701 and would never not run bead grip on my Tacoma
Novice overlander here, at what psi do you think the beadgrip can really make a difference? If I don't air down less that 15-18 psi, would this feature matter much? And oh, love your channel! Ended up buying the Top Oak tent after your review. Very informative and no BS channel.
Great question. I think the mostly come into play a little between 15 and 10…. And a lot below 10psi.
@@OutdoorAuto Thanks for the response! Just deciding if I need the extra feature.
The “groove” in the center is actually called the drop center
I am aware, I actually say that later in the video... I tend to explain things first without Jargon... then add it in latter... my channel mostly teaches people that don't know the jargon.
Have you ever had any trouble getting these to balance? I’m running a set of BFGs with 703s and they are cupping pretty bad. I’m leaning more towards bad tire than i am bad wheel but thought id check since you have more experience
No issues with the wheel being the issues… ko2’s can sometimes be hard to balance… but more often cupping is alignment related… and it is crazy hard to find a good alignment shop. If you are in a toyota you should check your cam tabs…. This videos details some of those issues th-cam.com/video/RSgCJGcNpYc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7h_3c-tsaoPhQskg
Hey! I want to hear your take on my situation. I love the RRw wheels and the Ssw Dakar’s but they only make a 17”. I tried an rrw and it was kilometers away from hitting the caliper/rotor (the barrel of the wheel. I notice a lot of tundras have 17’s but I have the trd sport and tow package and come to find out people think that this package has a bigger rotor and caliper?? Can’t find anything on the forums about it and it’s very difficult to find a good looking 18” wheel in a tundra lug pattern now days
So it gets tricky. As far as I know you can put a 17 on any Tundra before 2022. I have a 2018 that has the Tow package and I have 17’s on it… However, it is super tight and sometime when the tire guys try to add weights they put them exactly at the tightest point and they run… but if you have a tire guy that knows anything, that is easy to get around.
@@OutdoorAuto okay thank you so much for getting back to me! I contacted SSW off-road and they said there 17 would not fit with the tow package. I couldn’t imagine other companies would have a different shaped/ sized 17 inch wheel?? And with it being super tight, is that concerning for you? Mine was millimeters away from the barrel
They probably can’t actually support because they don’t actually fit on a FJ80 unless you use a spacer or machine the lip in the hub opening to allow to slide through.
Thanks!
Thanks for the support… I really appreciate it.
701 is life
Will you test some of the Icon REBOUND PRO with patented "InnerLock Technology"? Do a Vs against these Methods.
I think it’s a great idea maybe @iconvehicledynamicstv can help make it happen.
if I didnt have real beadlocks.... I would buy these... and honestly might buy them for my Ram 2500 tow rig. & I will likely buy them for a rig for my son in a couple of years
I’m putting the next set I buy on an f250 I use for getting firewood in the mountains… it gets stuck a lot and it be nice to be able to air down lower… I definitely think they can one in handy even on big rigs
At what PSI should i consider these vs regular rims? Any reason to get these when going to around 20 psi on Frontier? And I wonder about their weight vs stock rims...apologies if I missed it in the video
There is kinda two ways to look at it... if you stay above 18-20 psi and pair that with sensible driving you are fine with pretty much any wheel... so no need for bead grips. Where they can still come into play is if you ever get stuck... being able to air down to single digits a lot of times is enough to be able to get unstuck so in that case they can still be nice to have for emergencies... but definitely not necessary for your everyday use. As far as weight they are allow wheels and run really light compared to most stock rims.
@@OutdoorAuto Thank you kindly for your answer
I’ve heard that people who are running Mickey Thompson Baja Boss’, that have a thicker bead, that there are issues with getting them to seat on the Bead Grips. Have you heard anything?
I ran Baja bosses with no issues… I have mounted them twice.
@@OutdoorAuto I remember you mentioning that you had ran the MT BB's before, so I figured you'd be able to answer that. But I'm still curious as to why others have had issues. (It was a while back, so I don't remember which videos they were.)
@@OutdoorAuto Did you run the AT or MT? Maybe there is a difference in bead width. Also some sizes of MTs are being phased out, maybe it's a fix for the seating issue
If you lose a bead with these on the trail, how easy is it to get them back on?
I have actually never lost a bead on a trail with these... but I have changed a lot of tires with them... you can always use the starter fluid trick/fire trick to seat them super fast... definitely works... but because of how gradual the middle slopes it holds air pretty easy past the bead and bead hump... biggest issue is to fully reseat it sometimes you have to air it up to around 50 psi and then air back down to your running psi.
@@OutdoorAuto thank you. Great info.
I was able to get a 35” E load KO2 back on the bead with and arb single compressor, took about 35 psi. Felt odd to air up and right back down again 😂
I hear it destroys your tire if you pull them off.
Answered this in the chat
I think some of it may depend on the tire and manufacturer. I am on my third set of Yokohama MTs and have had the beads get damaged on removal.
Different tires on rims. Different bead seat on tire. Not a fair comparison
Did I miss it? What's the 1st Most Important Offroad Upgrade?
Good tires
Are Methods really THAT good? I'm almost inclined to get something else bc they won't sponsor, you, the best wheel/tire content creator that also overlands. Hope they sposor you sometime soon. Thanks for this!
I have been really impressed with them in some pretty crazy hits while snow wheeling. I hit a snow bank going sideways last year at 1 PSI and I couldn’t believe they held.
@@OutdoorAuto Wow, ok. I guess I'm just the type who looks for something other than the most popular, but I'm not loathe to become part of the consensus. Thanks again!
I was watching another youtuber who had Bead grip wheels. The first day he went wheeling with it, the tire came off the beads. I would just save up and get real bead locks if you guys really need it.
Bead aren't DOT approved.. so they really aren't an alternative to Bead Grips.... its not like you just "save up" and get something else... one you have to trailer your vehicle everywhere... the other you still can use your vehicle as a daily. On top of that... 1 guy debeading a tire, is still just one guy debeading a tire... fact still remains... they are a huge upgrade to normal wheels.
Meh. Even real beadlocks will debead under the right circumstances if they're only locked on the outer side. It's an improvement, but I wouldn't gamble on it at very low psi more than a regular old wheel.
I disagree with this video as he didnt even try to remove it the same way, as a guy that did tires for 10+ years it looked to me like it would have came off in the same amount of times. By showing each removed differently you can be 100%.......
😂… I change them differently because the other way doesn’t work on bead grips… but by all means assume you know more when you have never even used them.