Obviously, this is not everyone, but some of y'all Le Sserafim "fans" in the comments are the only ones here fantasizing about members killing themselves. It's extremely creepy, presumptuous, and unbelievably disrespectful to idols who actually have self-harmed. It gives off the vibe that you almost wish it would happen, just so you have something to make others feel bad about. You can share your concerns about others' mental health without threatening people with the possibility of suicide. What a manipulative argument to take :(
Its sad to see how much her confidence dropped through the years. She went from confidently singing live on stage, to looking terrified during encores...
@@casso.ot9 its her fault why dont she invest money in Real vocal lesson? She IS rich lol LF she want to stop she could but no she wont do it because it being them headlines and popularity
Yes that's kinda sad, she thought she was getting somewhere but then quickly realized that she was lying to herself. That's what you call a reality check.
@@ayanobadass949she was good while not the best she was good yes she needed to improve but you aint going to be motivated if people hate on you insted of telling you that you need to improve and get better
@@Everythingz127 a "victim card" doesn't fucking exist, yall just dont wanna deal with the consequences of ur actions if something DOES happen. fucking bullies
@@cheetochae The issue is that they are crying in front of people when they have barely improved like what do you call this? Everyone passes through bad times they should improve and do their job properly and then let them cry as much as they want but why are we supposed to feel sympathy when they are not even doing much about it like what are we supposed to do? They should just work hard and improve and then tell everyone about what they've been going through, but crying because of getting hate for not singing properly when they still can't sing is just pathetic
I will say Sakura voice is damaged. In her Japanese group, she was taught a terrible nasally technique that has most likely made her voice go through irreversible damage. Sakura wants to be a performer but sadly her voice is so damaged that maybe she needs surgery.
A lot of Japanese female idols sound like they have vocal damage. Their cute “baby voice” causes a lot of tension and damage over time. Korean/Chinese/Western female idols tend to have a relaxed voice and usually don’t have this much vocal damage at such a young age.
Oh my glob finally, someone who thinks about her damaged vocals instead of bringing up "ShE HaS BEeN In ThE InDusTrY fOr mOre ThaN 10 YeaRs" without thinking what happened in that 10+ years smh.
She's been an idol for half of her life yet ppl still feel bad for her for not knowing how to do the job she signed an official contract for. Its been 13 years. HALF OF HER LIFE
LITERALLY. and before she debuted 13 years ago she was a trainee for 6 years and 11 months.. basically 7 years so ur telling me she’s been practicing for 20 years and can’t sing ???
Yeah I do feel bad because the hate is obviously affecting her mentally, but also like just quit then??? She even said she doesn't know why she's an idol. I honestly couldn't go through all of this I would just admit to myself that this isn't the right career path for me and move on.
I feel sad but I can’t feel bad for them…. Literally for example if a doctor can’t perform surgery or give a correct diagnosis will you let them be in that industry… no right … it’s like that…. She need to sing
i hate to break it to you…but doctors DO mess up. there have been plenty of failed surgeries and misdiagnoses. and, shocker, they don’t get fired because it’s human to make mistakes. the difference is they don’t have pests reminding them of it every waking hour of the day.
Le sserafim can't sing well Hybe : play the victim card Le sserafim didn't improve at all Hybe : put them in coachella Le ssrafim gets more hate and criticism Hybe : play the victim card Starting to see a pattern here
@@ayanobadass949 you're a disgrace to stayville and straykids as a whole. Bangchan would be disappointed at you for these actions because he NEVER encourages people to hate, yet here you are supporting a channel and trash people who stand for the opposite of what he and straykids stan for. Shame on you.
Emotional manipulation at its finest. Kpop companies are really good at making fans feel bad for expecting the bare minimum from idols doing their job.
Calling this emotional manipulation feels incredibly misguided and false. Nowhere in the documentary does Le Sserafim say you have to feel bad for their experiences. They are just being honest about how they feel, and sharing how it impacts how their work. They have been delivering incredible performances live since debut, and frankly whether you consider that bare minimum or not isn’t the point. “Making fans feel bad” because they’re showing how harassment has affected them? They never make excuses for their shortcomings. They need said they’ll stop working hard. They never said they are satisfied. They did say they’ll continue to work hard for their fans. It’s very easy to support those you feel deserve it and ignore the rest, but kpop stans have never been able to do that.
@@quietcaracal I don't agree with the unnecessary hate train. I hate the blantant misogyny and toxicity towards this group. I do agree with the constructive criticism but that's where I draw my line. Too many poeple turn constructive criticism into destructive... However... Documentaries about artists are released for people to relate to the artists' struggles (not always), learn about the hardships they went through and understand their profession and their roles in said profession and how they deal with it. Why do you think they did this? It's media play to gather sympathy and lessen the toxic comments these innocent girls receive. I don't deny the fact that these girls don't cry, ofc they do, they're human, but everything in this documentary was acted and planned out. Nothing you see on screen is 100% real and natural. Obviously it's to gather, how some people like to call it, "pity points". Which is true. At the end of the day, their struggles are completely human, and I feel like people should just put a limit to how much they criticize someone. Ppl go too far and it's the internet where ppl think just because they are behind a screen, they are free to say whatever they want without facing concequences. Anyway, it's a dense thing to do to deny that this documentary wasn't to gain sympathy
@@aflower5768 I disagree. Le Sserafim has been transparent about why they’ve done documentaries since debut. This has been filmed since Anti-Fragile with or without the increase in hard. We understand the documentary is not 100% of everything, but that isn’t the point. It’s to show that behind our perceptions of what idols should and should not be, they are human. The idea that this is solely for sympathy is why so many idols often go on hiatus. No where in the documentary do they ask you to feel bad for them, in fact, as they are practicing and performing they communicate that they will continue to dedicate more time to bring better performances. People are so focused on the idea of this being PR, that they can’t look outside of themselves for two seconds. Everyone has free-will. Showing the truth of how the industry affects them is their own decision and it has been this way for some time. They aren’t asking you to change your perceptions. They aren’t asking you to forget their shortcomings. They are saying that although you see us through one small perspective, their reality goes beyond our perception of the idol industry. Take it or leave it.
@@quietcaracal they're not going to personally ask you to feel sympathy for them. Nobody ever does that. When your friend vents to you, they don't say "hey buddy, show me some support and understand me. Show some sympathy because I need it right now". Don't expect everything to be served in front of you, you have to comprehend and guess it yourself. They ARE looking for fans and outsiders to sympathize with their situation. Trying to let them know that they're normal humans who go through hardships too. What you're doing is called being dense and ignoring the actual nature of things and creating a fairytale type of situation. Of course asking for sympathy is not the only purpose of the documentary, but it is the MAIN one. This is PR, everything on social media is PR. It's weird you think this is supposed to be all real. Asking for sympathy is NOT a bad thing. It's a basic human emotion that everyone requires. They need it to decrease the hate they receive by showing hos tough their idol life is and how difficult it is to cope with all the negativity the internet throws at them while they try their hardest in their careers
sometimes low confidence can make u sing badly. She thinks she cant do it, so she cant. Her vocal style is for jpop. I think she underestimated how different kpop is from jpop, and she has been trained to sing JPOP for more then 70% of her carreer. Switching to the kpop style is hard. Yeah maybe she didnt improve but fun fact when people are insulting you (the internet is fucking wild) its hard to get motivated when you have a shit confidence in yourself
didn’t sakura go on a rant on weverse after coachella about how great she thinks she did and didn’t one of the girls (I think chaewon?) post the middle finger on her story afterwards too? why are they suddenly doing a 180 and bringing out the waterworks now? they clearly didn’t feel bad after coachella, and they no matter how many lip syncing and bad vocal scandals they get into, they never feel bad enough to actually improve. they only care about looking like they feel bad on camera to me. sm is the king of vocals, yg is the king of rap, jyp is the king of performance, and hybe is the king of media play it seems.
The only difference between Sakura and Shuhua is that Shuhua has the basic decency to not cry about being a bad singer, while making millions of dollars.
Humans have diff personalities skaura is sensitive idiot!! How can u hate for someone crying like she said she cant sing confidently but is trying her best!! Did u guys even watch the documentary or just simply hating
This is false. Sakura is not crying bc she does not want to work. She is crying bc she has been relentlessly harassed. All too often you all say you want the industry to be real, and when Sakura is vulnerable enough to show how this has affected her…you invalidate it. No where in the documentary did she say you need to feel bad for her. Not one member of Le Sserafim made excuses for their shortcomings, but none of you see them as ppl. If you don’t like it, and don’t want to see their efforts, there are other artists to support.
her vocal problem is not even about skills, it's clearly psychological trauma. any performer can say there is a stage fear. And even if you are the best singer you may tremble. But it's doubtful haters will come to sense and realize smth. So, untill she can overcome it or have enough support, she will be scared to open her mouth because haters will eat her up. so sad
they should do what Aespa did. People were criticizing them for the dancing they later on they improved. le sserafim should do the same aswell and avoid crying on camera
You didn’t watch the full documentary, did you? The whole message of the documentary was working through their hardships together as a team, rediscovering their passions and showing their vulnerabilities to their fans to showcase that the process won’t be perfect. It was never about trying to gain sympathy, that’s just the narrative you want to see through the out of context clips gross channels like this keep pushing. And honestly? If you’re feeling like they’re crying for sympathy, then I think that says something more about you deep down. You are rejecting the guilt you feel, instead opting to showcase a complete lack of empathy and critical thinking rather than face the truth of your own actions.
damn aespa also got a lot of hate especially for their coachella performance but you don't see them whining about it instead they actually improved their skills
Sakura was quite literally in a vocal lesson during that initial clip. They are training. And they deliver incredible performances while doing it live since debut. The idea that this documentary is trying to cover their bad vocals is false. In the full 2 hours, not once did a member make excuses. Nor did they say they will not work hard. This is for their fans, yet, people would rather they experience harassment and shut up than be real about the industry. They said they’ll continue to bring better stages for their fans. No one else has to tune in.
@@quietcaracalif you want to see a performance that’s actually good instead of blatantly lying go listen to aespa nct and treasure then go back and listen to le sserafim it’s mad embarrassing
@@suzumi111 I’ve seen Le Sserafim’s performances and the direct fancams from their live audiences, and I feel they’re good. “It’s mad embarrassing” to you. And that’s okay. You’re not obligated to like, listen, or value their music. Focus on the artists you like, and so will I. Very easy.
She is definitely tone deaf. There is no other explanation for me. Which is a not bad thing bc im too, and many people are, but singing is her job. If they won't find her the most amazing teacher for people that are tone deaf, then she will get fired. The company must find her a god teacher. To try new ways of listening to herself or something, bc she won't be able to make it through.
LSF should pick a leaf from IVE. They were in the same position too. They were criticized, disappointed, cried, went to practice, released the best classic album for any girl group, with top tier vocals, with all members singing in their vocal ranges. It's going to be hard for the girle to be able to redeem themselves, ESPECIALLY after this documentary. However, fingers crossed, hope source music does them well.
I feel bad for saying this, but IVE only improved their stability, all members except Yujin and Liz still can’t support a single note to this day whatsoever.
@@Oftenlost-n9z yes. People don't actually care if you can sing like Ariana or Mariah or Beyonce. What they care about is whether you can sound good LIVE. And that's what IVE has been doing since the IAM era and they are k!lling it!!! Also the sound engineers give the girls parts that they can ACTUALLY sound good in, BOTH studio and live versions. A good example here is Rei. She can't sing, but whenever her parts come, it just feels right.
Thing is I find it hard to pity any celeb nowadays like at least you get paid for your tribulations I’m out here crying for broke…and I feel sakura has to stop crying about it she chose to go back into this industry knowing she’s not good enough and that’s ok but own it and just say you got a check (like cardi on being a fake rapper). “I just like money.”
Ur so right. At least singers that know it's just a hobby are humble enough to admit it. There are many idols that aren't good at singing but better at visuals/dancing. You can't join such a competitive industry like kpop and not expect this.
I agree for once like she was chosen despite being a total dozen in izone she got lucky and took other ppl opportunity to debut and she is in one of the biggest kpop company and is in one of the most popular gg yeet she is here crying about how some ppl hate her like gurl you can stop checking social media literally everyone wants your life its not that deep also she can leave lf she want to lol? Also imagine lf this was a stylist that messed up their job or a choregrapher that did a mistake ? They would have been fired insulted by those dumxd leserafilm fans and no amount of crying would save them its honestly so sad how we live in a society where ppl excuse someone being bad at their jobs because they like them
@@microaveniki she cant sing nor rap also she was a pretty Bad dancer in produce 101 she only imrproved in leserafilm because off hybe training and still she IS mid at best so yeah she IS a dozen and dont even try to lie she IS a dozen who got lucky even some off my faves are dozen but l still love them yet l want them to improve so by lying about her not being a dozen you are just making her think its okay for her to be this incompetent at her job at she Can get away with kt
Just because everyone wants to be famous like her that it just automatically justify the abuse she gets? u aren’t even making sense. She is entitled to feel how she feels and u are entitled to have ur opinions and stay an unkind and twisted individual. Move the fuck on if u can’t stand her, don’t watch her content.
Lol her fans are out here making excuses for her so atp I'm not even blaming Sakura anymore. Heck if I could be a singer that doesn't know how to sing and still have tons of people willing to listen to me anyways then I'd do it as well.
@@BlessingNdlovu-mt6rq Okay? and that means nothing. So if you went to a famous restaurant and they serve you awful food, obviously you are gonna say it's awful. with your logic, people should shut up even when they get served bad food because they aren't a chief themselves.
She never said she is the only one!! The difference between other idols and her is that others dont show thier bad side its a docu ofcorse its going to be emotional like haven't u guys watched any documentary yet dont u see the main reason for it to show the behind struggles of stage!! Like stop calling it sympathy!!
In corporate, people don’t typically get this far unless they have a family connection, very wealthy family, or they are a people pleaser so easily manipulated by their boss to do anything. It does not make sense how far she has come or that a group was formed around her (instead of Chaewon) which has been alleged. This would only work if she was a Korean visual because she’s one of them and the emphasis on beauty. I don’t get the fan’s loyalty to her unless they see themselves (struggling in a job or wishing to be something) in her which is a PR/ad strategy. You feel connected to her and want her to win because that means you can win.
She already was famous in Japan and had a big fanbase on China, like top tier fanbase, she was and still is a easy way to make money, being idol for her werent about talent until she gets to Korea.
@@odilioferro Sadly, Sakura only got big in Korea because of her visual and her popularity in Japan. She would have never made it if she didn't have those, since she has no 'talent' or skills.
That’s one encore if you fail a test your whole life isn’t down to that test watch any other performance their tour fanmeets and even Weverse con their vocals a fire
Along with Easy encores that people feel are bad, there are more where she sounds good vocally. If you don’t feel it’s good enough, you don’t have to tune in. Even in their most recent performance Sakura had a full solo, while performing live during a festival. You a few encores to define her efforts, but when she does well no one values the work.
Newjeans are so bad. Mr removed have video of them. Newjeans vocalists are worst than Sakura lol. Newjeans should hire vocal coach & learn breathing technique. They are so bad. In many parts, they don't even sing💀💀. Le Sserafim got fullforce hate on March & April( Easy era) but why not not in Fearless & Anifragile era? Because Le Sserafim is getting famous, got invite in prestigious events, receive lots of endorsers compared before, so haters are bringing them down because haters fav idols are sinking & flopping?😢😢💀💀.It so obvious why newjeans didn't get the same hate even they are vocally bad especially live singing. Le Sserafim should not receive hate as well, It's because MHJ minions/paid medias are spreading defamation againts Le Sserafim & other hybe artists. Very suspicious! Why they only hate Le Sserafim in April & March? Why not in Fearless & Antifragile era? Mhj is very envious & fault finder. Especially when Illit debut & they got 11 wins already & that's where MHJ fully explode!
I wonder when ppl who actually pity Sakura will understand that everything is just a media play to lessen the hate plus the excuse they made her mouth is absolutely wild, like imagine a surgeon declaring that they are afraid of performing an operation on someone
Yea yae we know kpop idols do work hard, they are minor, they are human But I'm pretty sure they debuted after knowing how the industry is plus those 3 who went to survival show obviously knows how you get treated there and Chaewon and Sakura has been an idol for years didn't they realized how tough this industry is? And after knowing how harsh it is to the point people kill themselves they still chose to debut now you gotta take it
Kind of off topic but like also not rlly, but Hybes girl groups seem to not be doing well like at all 😭 Le sserafim with this vocal controversy, ILLIT and Newjeans CEOS, and Fromis 9 just isn’t promoted at all 😭
She was really popular back in Japan yk its like a card for hybe i guess, to be popular everywhere. Unless she literally doesnt add anything to the group...????
I don't condone the hate toward her or people laughing at her misery, because bad vocals are not that serious at the end of the day. But the undeniable fact is that neither the company nor Sakura herself is willing to work on improving her vocals, and this has been true since she signed on with them. We know she 's capable of improvement, since she's improved tremendously at dancing. We know the company can afford it, since they've paid for some of the girls to have plastic surgery - no judgment, but it's not cheap - plus, there are literally hundreds of online vocal coaches that would jump on the chance to work for a HYBE sublabel. And not only has she been hearing the same thing since Produce 48 from professionals in the industry, she's got ears, so she knows her own weaknesses, but she's still choosing not to try and get better. I don't understand how she had the gall to tell the public with a straight face that her performance at Coachella was the best performance of her career, when this documentary shows her crying over her lack of skills months prior. She's basically gaslighting the fans at this point. And those are just the bare facts, the excuses don't matter. If she had the technique, she would still sound passable even while lacking confidence. If the company is unwilling to pay, there are so many videos online she could watch to learn some vocal exercises that target specific issues she might be struggling with. So I think people have a right to critique this about her, anything beyond that is a bit much
I think nowadays these so called idols lacks passion for music. They just want excuse for not improving their skills. You are a" singer"because you are passionate about it not because of the fans. Even I can sing way better than her without any training. ( No hate )
I saw the comments in the episode, it's so disappointing seeing all the people who are rooting for her when she is the one who chose to do all this, fans keep saying the korean fans are too harsh, but I think the korean fans are absolutely correct. You should not be sugar coating everything just because you "love" them.
@@ayanobadass949With the amount of hate you spew on your account , don't be surprised if one of these days you end up in source music lawsuit. I'd be more careful with my words on the internet if I were you. Every sentence you say is a digital footprint.
I agree that the documentary is likely damage control from source music. Big companies are so sneaky. However, truly I feel bad for the girls. There is a difference from hate and criticism. And these girls tend to get alot more hate disguised as criticism and its bad. I can't wish that on a human being. Still, their company doesn't look out for them. Can't tell me that they didn't know of the girls skill levels and they pushed them to debut and preform at Coachella before they were ready and had proper training and significant improvement. I feel bad for the members of the group but i do not like their company at all.
this feels very confusing because if she can't sing easy because it is in a lower range why can't she improv during the encore and sing it a note higher?
People in the comments who are saying her to shut up she is litreally saying facts give me a reason why sakura should be bad at her only job? why didn't she improve from 2022 to 2024? what another weird ass defending will the fear nots give?
Sakura is just a bad singer, along with most of Le Sserafim. People saying Yunjin or Chaewon are carrying the group is a joke lol, what is carrying the group is high production and pretty, super skinny girls performing their TikTok dances. I hate idols documentaries bc companies only releases them when they either are having a scandal or are needing sympathy from people.
I agree that some of the criticisms are a bit harsh but come on guys, she’s been an idol her whole life and I don’t think she wants to improve her vocals.
She is 26 years old with 12 years in experience. Irene debuted at 23 and she kept improving. She's not Wendy but she improved. If you hear wonyoung now, she sings live well.
What you said at the ending of the video was straight up facts. She is sooo privileged to still be in a group with the lack of talent that she has, meanwhile people who don’t have it like that NEED to be the best or else they have nothing.
I don't have a thing against lsfm but how has Sakura not shown even an ounce of development? She needs to take a break, get mentally strong to deal with the anxiety of "not being good enough" and simultaneously get vocal lessons. From aespa to ive, all faced immense hatred but you saw them improve, I just can't see it from her. I hope she gets better and that's all I can do, hope.
They’re really trying to pull the Céline Dion documentary move 😂😂😂but the difference is Céline Dion literally has a unique disease that prevents her from singing, Sakura just sucks blatantly for no specific reason. Like it’s not the same babe😂😂after watching the Céline Dion documentary I felt inspired and so sympathetic and understanding. With Sakura there’s no excuse that’s what baffles me, Hybe is so dumb because the whole documentary was”we know she suck’s but she’s trying her best” unless Sakura has a sickness or a issue that prevents her from singing I can’t feel sorry for her.
People with sakura un learning bad sing habits is harder than learning from scratch they should not have debut a girl with bad singing habits and low self-esteem is a dangerous combination
If I had a job that paid me millions of dollars I’d do my best to improve and actually do my job well. Not cry about completely valid criticism on crappy work.
I totally understand her crying because of the pressure and hate comments she gets form not being able to sing, but come on hybe, train your idols properly, after years of being under your agency an idol still isn’t improving then SOMETHING has gotta change wether it be new techniques or actually focusing on why she can’t sing properly. She chose this career, it’s hybe’s responsibility to support it and using such lame tactics to get sympathy is just so low and honestly unnecessary, just get better at it. It definitely is easier to say than do, but it’s literally that simple.
my only problem with sakura (and the other members of lesserafim aside from chaewon and MAYBE yunjin on a good day) is that they are setting this precedent in the industry where idols can get away for lacking in the ONE area that their main job scope covers. what are future idols or current trainees going to think? "oh this group lacks in vocal skills but they're still famous, has lots of fans, and still receiving awards so why should we work/train so hard? people will still defend us anyway". and this will be how the kpop industry falls.
there it is folks - orbz6997 here predicted the collapse of the entire kpop industry as we know it hybe should def consult with you moving forward since you seem to have so much insight
Yall Literally Been Hating Since Their Debut & It Got Worse Overall It’s A Difference Between Criticizing & Full Out Hating. They Literally Been Documenting This For Awhile Now & The Thing Is Y’all Act Like They’re Not Humans & That They Can’t Cry.
Honestly I get kinda triggered everytime I watch sakura, I can relate to her a little but I just can't simpazise with her, look let me tell you something: I've been singing my whole life (I'm a natural singer) but I have a friend that told me how she learned how to sing *from scratch* , she said she practiced say an hour every day, line per line, even word for word if necessary for a *YEAR* and now I think she sings better than me, there's no excuse.
Thank god someone pointed it out. The timing was actually smart. They are getting Massive hate and critisism and now they have to release an album but they will again get hate so they have to release the documentry to get sympathy votes. It's sad that she lost her confidence but this is her job at the end of the day. Assume it as a corporate world. She would be easily replaced and no one care. If she really want people to support her she have to improve. Pity party can only take her so far. As for see BTS Jimin this man received massive critisism for his encore which was valid but I never saw him cry anywhere instead he took vocals lessons seriously and his live vocals are so much improved in his new MUSE album. That's how you prove and shut people. Crying and doing all this will only get you sympathy not RESPECT.
like what happening in hype they can basically take vocal lessons instead of making a documentary I think it's just a new thing in hype to not giving their idols vocal lessons to make more attention, it's all started from newjeans
This one is so damn true an idol is crying because she can't sing for more than 2 years, and the fans thinks that she is trying her best, I say this is complete bullshit there hasn't been any improvement, HYBE is good at using victim card and fans believe it
@@HaerinconCAUSE SHE IS THE VICTIM. y'all bullied her too much to the point where she's actually afraid. Ppl like you, is the reason why some idols are dead due to hate.
You need to grow up and actually realize that sakura is human like all of us. Y'all bullied her too much to the point where she's afraid bcs of y'all and y'all are still making fun of her. 😐 Don't be suprised when an idol kills themselves due to hate and depression because of people like you.
@@Kittypearls_46you Stan babymonster, the one who should actually grow up is ahyeon since she wants to play the victim so bad js to get the center of attention. She does too much and now she's lazy and wants to be Jennie so bad, tell ahyeon to actually do her damn job right and quit pouting js because she can't handle criticism before coming at sakura.
@@nctwinkidk she trained for 7 years? Our standards are of course gonna be high and if she can't reach them yk the criticism and hate she's gonna face
She's been an idol for more than a decade, if what she claim is true that she's been taking vocal training and still cant improve then i guess Sakura and her fans should accept that she has no talent for singing.
I mean, I have nothing against Sakura, I like her, but what's crazier for me is the amount of EXTREMELY talented girls on survival shows, including reality shows from HYBE itself, talented girls we haven't seen and most of them WE WON'T SEE debut. Sakura is a great person, but her job is to be an idol, which mainly consists of being a SINGER, if you are bad at your job even in basic things, if what you can deliver is something mediocre or even bad, why are you crying in a documentary so that people feel sorry for you not doing the minimum necessary in your work? And it's questionable for HYBE especially. Why debut in a group someone who clearly doesn't have what it takes to be an idol, while several train to be there with MUCH more talent and potential? It makes no sense at all. Maybe for popularity? Perhaps ignorance? It makes no sense to debut someone who is not able to do the minimum in a sea where there are several who could do the maximum.
I know.. another Sob story. Other idols too go through same things and those who really want to learn and change..they do. But seeing them not improve and now selling a sob story is so sad .
yes, it is sad that shes being hated on for crying.. but tbh HYBE set her up! idek what they were expecting?? that all the people who were hating on her would do a whole 360...
Yes, It's Sultry's fault that Sakura has insecurity issues as a grown woman who has no reason to not be a good singer by now. Idols are public figures, they will be critiqued and hated on by the internet. Stop babying your favs.
@@BellaBlooms2244 is babying in the room with us? I'm just saying that she made Sakura's confidence low. Idols are NOT public figures they are someone's Sister, Brother, Neice, Daughter, Son. Sakura can sing. She was just nervous at Coachella, plus to add more, I don't want any other idols to go through the same thing anymore.
Why do we all not learn to stop? People will never stop until an idol decided....to stop... Stop being toxic smh. Kpop idols nowadays is being treated like they are healthcare professionals lmao. Sakura may not be good, but I do consider her to be 'average'. We should seriously stop with these ridiculous standards when all we came for in Kpop is their music smh. I thought people will learn to be sensitive about the hate especially when there were idols who were..... hays. Lol. Be forever toxic guys 👍
Let’s not pretend K-pop is about singing, are there k-pop idols who can sing? of course , but if K-pop was truly about vocals, every kpop group would look very different. She signed up to be an idol not a singer and the two are different. I do think it’s okay to criticize her and not pity her! There is a difference between hating and criticism though and people online do cross that line frequently.
Being an idol is about singing , dancing and superficial things yes singing is primordial are you going to put their music on mute just because k pop is not only about singing? No.
@@la_marrchall_lorraine kpop isn't all about singing cos they literally street cast people! Hard pill to swallow but it's all about looks... You look appealing.. You have good sales value.. You will be trained. That's why people who wanna be ARTISTS don't want to be idols. Jae from day6 quit for the same reason, yedam quit for the same reason. Not every kpop singer needs to know how to sing and still sustain in the group for their visual. That's a known fact and I know it very well being in the kpop fandom since 2016
If she tired I’d be more sympathetic. After she got criticized for her Coachella performance she went live and made every excuse she could instead of saying yes I’ve done bad and will improve. Until she actually tries to be good at the job she gets paid millions of dollars to do the hate will keep coming
Idk I agree with everyone else when they say her confidence is key to why she isn’t improving. She honestly just needs to take a break from social media and also the group to get her mental health back in check. I feel she has lots of potential but her confidence is getting in the way, and also HYBE isn’t making songs that cater to her vocals. I used to not feel bad for her like you, but after a while you start to realize that low confidence will make everything you do look like you aren’t good at it even if you are. She nervous on stage cause of the hate she reads and prob has anxiety too. I really want her to take a break and get herself together mentally wise and restore her confidence. Being that she’s in Hybe I think they will let her do it.
It's not a pity party... The documentary is very fit with Lesserafim's situation... Who would know if this already planned from beginning... HYBE really want to make every Fimmies journey being a group idol very transparent because that seems of what Lesserafim's... They make big goal and statement as a starter. I think because BSH might see Lesserafim would be famous in different way... I don't know. However, since their debut, Lesserafim's always get jinxed which is very worrying me. Whatever it is... I hope nothing would lead to serious controversy... If it does, how lucky NewJeans to debut after.
Tbh at this point hybe should just fire her because she has been training every day to sing and has been in many groups and still can't sing. And she is so spoilt because she can't even sing but still gets money and she always crys when people say she sings bad and she always relies on other like the staff do to something about and what's more shocking is SHE IS AM ADULT. Like take responsibility and go on TH-cam and search up how to sing because there is so many vocal excerise to help you sing instead of just crying all the time and just expecting people to feel pity for you. Like if I was the head of hybe I would just fire her because if she can't sing and they do daily concert then she should just leave. And it's honestly gonna be better for her because she always says shes getting bullied so just leave then and U won't get bullied anymore and you don't have to overwork or anything.
Yall here in the comments being defensive like this is your full time job 😂 Mentioning the s*icide and all that really shows what age group youre a part of, if youre not good at your job, youre getting fired and told about it. Are we supposed to feel bad because she cries and be like "oh no poor her Ill say shes good now just stop crying"? would not survive a week in 2nd or early 3rd gen with the lack of talent. K-pop is a music genre before anything else so the voice should be put first, end of the discussion
Yeah they are not good singers 😐 they're down fall was preforming here in the USA where vocals MATTER. I understand that in japan and korea it doesn't matter if they're idols can sing as long as they are pretty but the same standard is not held globally
I disagree with you this time. Though Le sserafim lacks of good vocals, I would rather like to see Sakura being “petty” just for expressing her feelings than having suic…l thoughts. Remember Sulli, Goo Hara and more, they strive to perfection until they lost their minds and that lead them to suic… We need the idols to be more mentally healthy now
Sakura was a wrestler, so you’d think she would have grown a pair. 😂😂😂 But in all seriousness, while I do feel bad that she is scared to sing and that’s probably why she isn’t improving, she keeps choosing to re-debut as an idol. So, in a way, she’s doing it to herself. She has had more than enough opportunities to improve and has even taken opportunities away from others. Yet, she still lacks progress.
Just enjoy kpop for its music, it's people like you all that need to mature including the creator of this channel. This channel creator simply wants to earn money by spreading hate through her videos. She has spread online hate towards artists like bts , bp, lsfm, illit ( who are minors btw ), red velvet and many more.
Sakura deserves criticism for her time she’s been in this industry for 10 years!! But.. no hate if your going to hate someone hate HYBE for not letting her train more after izone before debuting LS. In my opinion there’s no way for her to improve anymore tbh. So sad what the K-pop industry has come to where we’ll be getting more idols that don’t know how to sing and visuals will be taken over.
I agree with you but at the same time I believe people are taking the "criticism" too far. Imagine you start a new job (ex. in a restaurant) and people tell you all the time that you're useless and you don't know how to do things and you should retire. How am I supposed to improve? Instead, that would make me feel insecure and be more afraid of making mistakes. But if in my work they encourage me to improve and make me feel better like "you can do it if you do it this way..." and things like that. People confused hate with constructive criticism. You don't need to bully her online everyday. You can tell Sakura was not good but at least she sounded better and more confident in the past. It's difficult to remove old habits when you have sung for a whole decade with the wrong technique. Especially if people tell you that you're tone deaf, instead of explaining to you your main issues and how to improve this aspects.
Source Music handles criticisms and hates the worst! Imo, if u watched their last coachella performance, Sakura was the most stable (not technique wise but she was not out of breath and she also surpassed other members when it comes to dancing) But people would not look at it that way because Source Music keeps pushing theyre perfect and they should not be criticised... dude, just accept it, and prove yourselves. Stop forcing it to our throats because forcing is never the right solution to make people like you. 😪😪😪
then don’t feel bad for her. nobody ever wanted to know what you had to say. you couldve kept it to yourself. “she cant sing but has been a singer for over a decade” maybe they teached her differently in japan? and it’s hard for her to relearn the so called “correct” way?
I wanted to know what she had to say. Why is she not allowed freedom of speech? She's pointing out facts, regardless of how much hybe's emotional strategy to get the public's sympathy worked on you, just use your brain and ears properly and you will agree with this video too.
She trained at hybe too, if she can't adapt then she can't survive in the industry simple as that, that's just natural selection. You can't progress in the industry if your not getting on the train of success.
If she just don't want to sing girl it's so esay just quit because there are lots of talented and more importantly "passionate" ppl out there so just leave. ( Passion is important your well power is important)Because i stan those singer who wanna to a singer not just they are singing because of the fans you are a singer because you want to do it if not just leave isn't it soo difficult . Maybe she not meant for being an idol so simple.( It's not a hate towards her or for the group BUT seriously isn't it so difficult to leave) ❤
I feel so bad for this :/ They are so working hard and you shouldn't post this video yk that they are going to sue people who hate so you should take this video down.
@@LIARLILA Coachella was literally in April. You guys really ran out of comebacks huh? Didn't you see them on Jennifer Hudson, MTV, Summer gayo daejun 2024 and weverse con? Those are all live
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Obviously, this is not everyone, but some of y'all Le Sserafim "fans" in the comments are the only ones here fantasizing about members killing themselves. It's extremely creepy, presumptuous, and unbelievably disrespectful to idols who actually have self-harmed.
It gives off the vibe that you almost wish it would happen, just so you have something to make others feel bad about. You can share your concerns about others' mental health without threatening people with the possibility of suicide. What a manipulative argument to take :(
Its sad to see how much her confidence dropped through the years. She went from confidently singing live on stage, to looking terrified during encores...
Dfkm.
@@casso.ot9 its her fault why dont she invest money in Real vocal lesson? She IS rich lol LF she want to stop she could but no she wont do it because it being them headlines and popularity
Yes that's kinda sad, she thought she was getting somewhere but then quickly realized that she was lying to herself. That's what you call a reality check.
@@ayanobadass949ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh nauuuurrr. Why did you day that? 🤭
@@ayanobadass949she was good while not the best she was good yes she needed to improve but you aint going to be motivated if people hate on you insted of telling you that you need to improve and get better
It is easy to harass people online till they die right?
The victim card won't work girly
@@Everythingz127 yea sure, whenever someone cries out of stress it means theyre playing the victim card right?
@@Everythingz127 a "victim card" doesn't fucking exist, yall just dont wanna deal with the consequences of ur actions if something DOES happen. fucking bullies
@@cheetochae
The issue is that they are crying in front of people when they have barely improved like what do you call this? Everyone passes through bad times they should improve and do their job properly and then let them cry as much as they want but why are we supposed to feel sympathy when they are not even doing much about it like what are we supposed to do? They should just work hard and improve and then tell everyone about what they've been going through, but crying because of getting hate for not singing properly when they still can't sing is just pathetic
so we should say go girlll to these vocals lol if they never got criticism they would not improve slightest
I will say Sakura voice is damaged. In her Japanese group, she was taught a terrible nasally technique that has most likely made her voice go through irreversible damage. Sakura wants to be a performer but sadly her voice is so damaged that maybe she needs surgery.
She should've become a rapper. That's what idols do if they can't sing
A lot of Japanese female idols sound like they have vocal damage. Their cute “baby voice” causes a lot of tension and damage over time. Korean/Chinese/Western female idols tend to have a relaxed voice and usually don’t have this much vocal damage at such a young age.
Oh my glob finally, someone who thinks about her damaged vocals instead of bringing up "ShE HaS BEeN In ThE InDusTrY fOr mOre ThaN 10 YeaRs" without thinking what happened in that 10+ years smh.
@@Miya144pThen what are we supposed to do ?
@@HanQ28 actually yes i think the only idols that can sing is rei and giselle and mina idk if thier is more
She's been an idol for half of her life yet ppl still feel bad for her for not knowing how to do the job she signed an official contract for. Its been 13 years. HALF OF HER LIFE
LITERALLY. and before she debuted 13 years ago she was a trainee for 6 years and 11 months.. basically 7 years so ur telling me she’s been practicing for 20 years and can’t sing ???
Ikr ??? You will only see this in the idol industry lmao 😂
@@ayanobadass949 exactly and the fact she’s been saying that for two years is bizarre, then do something your obviously not trying to get better.
i see you everywhere and you keep spilling!! 100% agreed
Yeah I do feel bad because the hate is obviously affecting her mentally, but also like just quit then??? She even said she doesn't know why she's an idol. I honestly couldn't go through all of this I would just admit to myself that this isn't the right career path for me and move on.
Their vocal coach needs to be fired. The weakest vocal of the group shouldn’t be THIS bad
OMG should we send some protest trucks?! this is simply a travesty
@@Kikopolok who train for 3 months bcz kazuha train for 6 months
@@Kikopolok yeah i think in the 6 months they train her for idol dancing style
@@Kikopolok years or month they earn money and u dont
The girls have improved but yes you wouldn't even acknowledge that because you NEED a reason to hate
I feel sad but I can’t feel bad for them…. Literally for example if a doctor can’t perform surgery or give a correct diagnosis will you let them be in that industry… no right … it’s like that…. She need to sing
lmao imagine comparing a musician to a doctor. some of y’all are fr unhinged and spend way too much online. consider limiting your screen time
Her job is make music. Not specifically singing.
i hate to break it to you…but doctors DO mess up. there have been plenty of failed surgeries and misdiagnoses.
and, shocker, they don’t get fired because it’s human to make mistakes. the difference is they don’t have pests reminding them of it every waking hour of the day.
Le sserafim can't sing well
Hybe : play the victim card
Le sserafim didn't improve at all
Hybe : put them in coachella
Le ssrafim gets more hate and criticism
Hybe : play the victim card
Starting to see a pattern here
Fr. 😂
@@ayanobadass949you again??? Do you even know what year it is???
@@jarleyquinn8715You again I see 😂
@@ayanobadass949 you're a disgrace to stayville and straykids as a whole. Bangchan would be disappointed at you for these actions because he NEVER encourages people to hate, yet here you are supporting a channel and trash people who stand for the opposite of what he and straykids stan for. Shame on you.
Emotional manipulation at its finest. Kpop companies are really good at making fans feel bad for expecting the bare minimum from idols doing their job.
YG
Calling this emotional manipulation feels incredibly misguided and false. Nowhere in the documentary does Le Sserafim say you have to feel bad for their experiences. They are just being honest about how they feel, and sharing how it impacts how their work. They have been delivering incredible performances live since debut, and frankly whether you consider that bare minimum or not isn’t the point. “Making fans feel bad” because they’re showing how harassment has affected them? They never make excuses for their shortcomings. They need said they’ll stop working hard. They never said they are satisfied. They did say they’ll continue to work hard for their fans. It’s very easy to support those you feel deserve it and ignore the rest, but kpop stans have never been able to do that.
@@quietcaracal I don't agree with the unnecessary hate train. I hate the blantant misogyny and toxicity towards this group. I do agree with the constructive criticism but that's where I draw my line. Too many poeple turn constructive criticism into destructive... However... Documentaries about artists are released for people to relate to the artists' struggles (not always), learn about the hardships they went through and understand their profession and their roles in said profession and how they deal with it.
Why do you think they did this? It's media play to gather sympathy and lessen the toxic comments these innocent girls receive. I don't deny the fact that these girls don't cry, ofc they do, they're human, but everything in this documentary was acted and planned out. Nothing you see on screen is 100% real and natural. Obviously it's to gather, how some people like to call it, "pity points". Which is true.
At the end of the day, their struggles are completely human, and I feel like people should just put a limit to how much they criticize someone. Ppl go too far and it's the internet where ppl think just because they are behind a screen, they are free to say whatever they want without facing concequences.
Anyway, it's a dense thing to do to deny that this documentary wasn't to gain sympathy
@@aflower5768 I disagree. Le Sserafim has been transparent about why they’ve done documentaries since debut. This has been filmed since Anti-Fragile with or without the increase in hard. We understand the documentary is not 100% of everything, but that isn’t the point. It’s to show that behind our perceptions of what idols should and should not be, they are human. The idea that this is solely for sympathy is why so many idols often go on hiatus. No where in the documentary do they ask you to feel bad for them, in fact, as they are practicing and performing they communicate that they will continue to dedicate more time to bring better performances. People are so focused on the idea of this being PR, that they can’t look outside of themselves for two seconds. Everyone has free-will. Showing the truth of how the industry affects them is their own decision and it has been this way for some time. They aren’t asking you to change your perceptions. They aren’t asking you to forget their shortcomings. They are saying that although you see us through one small perspective, their reality goes beyond our perception of the idol industry. Take it or leave it.
@@quietcaracal they're not going to personally ask you to feel sympathy for them. Nobody ever does that. When your friend vents to you, they don't say "hey buddy, show me some support and understand me. Show some sympathy because I need it right now". Don't expect everything to be served in front of you, you have to comprehend and guess it yourself. They ARE looking for fans and outsiders to sympathize with their situation. Trying to let them know that they're normal humans who go through hardships too. What you're doing is called being dense and ignoring the actual nature of things and creating a fairytale type of situation.
Of course asking for sympathy is not the only purpose of the documentary, but it is the MAIN one. This is PR, everything on social media is PR. It's weird you think this is supposed to be all real.
Asking for sympathy is NOT a bad thing. It's a basic human emotion that everyone requires. They need it to decrease the hate they receive by showing hos tough their idol life is and how difficult it is to cope with all the negativity the internet throws at them while they try their hardest in their careers
sometimes low confidence can make u sing badly. She thinks she cant do it, so she cant. Her vocal style is for jpop. I think she underestimated how different kpop is from jpop, and she has been trained to sing JPOP for more then 70% of her carreer. Switching to the kpop style is hard. Yeah maybe she didnt improve but fun fact when people are insulting you (the internet is fucking wild) its hard to get motivated when you have a shit confidence in yourself
didn’t sakura go on a rant on weverse after coachella about how great she thinks she did and didn’t one of the girls (I think chaewon?) post the middle finger on her story afterwards too? why are they suddenly doing a 180 and bringing out the waterworks now? they clearly didn’t feel bad after coachella, and they no matter how many lip syncing and bad vocal scandals they get into, they never feel bad enough to actually improve. they only care about looking like they feel bad on camera to me. sm is the king of vocals, yg is the king of rap, jyp is the king of performance, and hybe is the king of media play it seems.
if I sucked at my job as bad as lesserafim did, I’d be fired. instead they’re making millions of dollars and have the nerve to complain.
theres no way you actually thinking they make millions of dollars. also if you don't like them then dont watch them why are you here complaining.
bbg i don't think she complained? shes literally just being insecure abt her vocals??
So you're mad they make money regardless of what you think or say? Sounds like a you problem honestly.
The only difference between Sakura and Shuhua is that Shuhua has the basic decency to not cry about being a bad singer, while making millions of dollars.
True.
I’m glad you brought up Shuhua because she cannot also sing either and I wishshe got kicked out instead of my Queen, Soojin.
Humans have diff personalities skaura is sensitive idiot!! How can u hate for someone crying like she said she cant sing confidently but is trying her best!! Did u guys even watch the documentary or just simply hating
@@sunhyolic gurl I agree she doesn't have any skills, I think they pick her bcz of her visual
@@Serena-VanderwoodsenEXACTLY
This is false. Sakura is not crying bc she does not want to work. She is crying bc she has been relentlessly harassed. All too often you all say you want the industry to be real, and when Sakura is vulnerable enough to show how this has affected her…you invalidate it. No where in the documentary did she say you need to feel bad for her. Not one member of Le Sserafim made excuses for their shortcomings, but none of you see them as ppl. If you don’t like it, and don’t want to see their efforts, there are other artists to support.
her vocal problem is not even about skills, it's clearly psychological trauma. any performer can say there is a stage fear. And even if you are the best singer you may tremble. But it's doubtful haters will come to sense and realize smth. So, untill she can overcome it or have enough support, she will be scared to open her mouth because haters will eat her up. so sad
they should do what Aespa did. People were criticizing them for the dancing they later on they improved. le sserafim should do the same aswell and avoid crying on camera
They just did. Didn’t u see their SBS fan cams
it's hybes fault, hybe just pulls out cameras whenever they want
@@cheetochae yea and it just gives the haters something to use against them
You didn’t watch the full documentary, did you? The whole message of the documentary was working through their hardships together as a team, rediscovering their passions and showing their vulnerabilities to their fans to showcase that the process won’t be perfect.
It was never about trying to gain sympathy, that’s just the narrative you want to see through the out of context clips gross channels like this keep pushing.
And honestly? If you’re feeling like they’re crying for sympathy, then I think that says something more about you deep down. You are rejecting the guilt you feel, instead opting to showcase a complete lack of empathy and critical thinking rather than face the truth of your own actions.
@@jedayeyo anit reading all that and when did i they were looking sympathy?
damn aespa also got a lot of hate especially for their coachella performance but you don't see them whining about it instead they actually improved their skills
Exactly, the truth is that she is weak
@@ayanobadass949she should take a hiatus and work on herself
Lsf are not whining
@@vickmay3898 what are they doing then? They're doing everything but stepping up their game
@@vser6768 have you watched the documentary?
Is it that hard to train their idols instead of trying to cover their bad vocal skills everytime? Like is it that hard??
I’ll also say it’s also the idols responsibility. If the company won’t take care of it, it’s called self initiative.
Sakura was quite literally in a vocal lesson during that initial clip. They are training. And they deliver incredible performances while doing it live since debut. The idea that this documentary is trying to cover their bad vocals is false. In the full 2 hours, not once did a member make excuses. Nor did they say they will not work hard. This is for their fans, yet, people would rather they experience harassment and shut up than be real about the industry. They said they’ll continue to bring better stages for their fans. No one else has to tune in.
@@quietcaracalif you want to see a performance that’s actually good instead of blatantly lying go listen to aespa nct and treasure then go back and listen to le sserafim it’s mad embarrassing
@@suzumi111 I’ve seen Le Sserafim’s performances and the direct fancams from their live audiences, and I feel they’re good. “It’s mad embarrassing” to you. And that’s okay. You’re not obligated to like, listen, or value their music. Focus on the artists you like, and so will I. Very easy.
@@quietcaracalthen they are not paying attention to their vocal lessons, because they still can’t sing.
She is definitely tone deaf. There is no other explanation for me. Which is a not bad thing bc im too, and many people are, but singing is her job. If they won't find her the most amazing teacher for people that are tone deaf, then she will get fired. The company must find her a god teacher. To try new ways of listening to herself or something, bc she won't be able to make it through.
LSF should pick a leaf from IVE. They were in the same position too.
They were criticized, disappointed, cried, went to practice, released the best classic album for any girl group, with top tier vocals, with all members singing in their vocal ranges.
It's going to be hard for the girle to be able to redeem themselves, ESPECIALLY after this documentary. However, fingers crossed, hope source music does them well.
I feel bad for saying this, but IVE only improved their stability, all members except Yujin and Liz still can’t support a single note to this day whatsoever.
@@Oftenlost-n9zwe don’t care about the support thing they improved that’s all.
@@saiki.k__8144 The improvement is not even that noticeable except for Wonyoung.
@@Oftenlost-n9z it is. Listen to their encore and then their more recent performance their is improvement.
@@Oftenlost-n9z yes. People don't actually care if you can sing like Ariana or Mariah or Beyonce. What they care about is whether you can sound good LIVE.
And that's what IVE has been doing since the IAM era and they are k!lling it!!!
Also the sound engineers give the girls parts that they can ACTUALLY sound good in, BOTH studio and live versions.
A good example here is Rei. She can't sing, but whenever her parts come, it just feels right.
Thing is I find it hard to pity any celeb nowadays like at least you get paid for your tribulations I’m out here crying for broke…and I feel sakura has to stop crying about it she chose to go back into this industry knowing she’s not good enough and that’s ok but own it and just say you got a check (like cardi on being a fake rapper). “I just like money.”
Ur so right. At least singers that know it's just a hobby are humble enough to admit it. There are many idols that aren't good at singing but better at visuals/dancing. You can't join such a competitive industry like kpop and not expect this.
so you’re just mad she’s rich like at the end of the day she’s getting her bank
@@johvnyy no one cares
@@ladyren241 stay mad and broke she’ll stay rich❤️
@@johvnyy ur definitely 12 yrs old 😭🙏🏾
I agree for once like she was chosen despite being a total dozen in izone she got lucky and took other ppl opportunity to debut and she is in one of the biggest kpop company and is in one of the most popular gg yeet she is here crying about how some ppl hate her like gurl you can stop checking social media literally everyone wants your life its not that deep also she can leave lf she want to lol? Also imagine lf this was a stylist that messed up their job or a choregrapher that did a mistake ? They would have been fired insulted by those dumxd leserafilm fans and no amount of crying would save them its honestly so sad how we live in a society where ppl excuse someone being bad at their jobs because they like them
My God i just love how you said that , if their fans were half as smart😂😂😂❤
Do you even know what a dosen even means
@@microaveniki she cant sing nor rap also she was a pretty Bad dancer in produce 101 she only imrproved in leserafilm because off hybe training and still she IS mid at best so yeah she IS a dozen and dont even try to lie she IS a dozen who got lucky even some off my faves are dozen but l still love them yet l want them to improve so by lying about her not being a dozen you are just making her think its okay for her to be this incompetent at her job at she Can get away with kt
Just because everyone wants to be famous like her that it just automatically justify the abuse she gets? u aren’t even making sense. She is entitled to feel how she feels and u are entitled to have ur opinions and stay an unkind and twisted individual. Move the fuck on if u can’t stand her, don’t watch her content.
Tbh I agree with you. She’s just got lucky for being picked.
Lol her fans are out here making excuses for her so atp I'm not even blaming Sakura anymore. Heck if I could be a singer that doesn't know how to sing and still have tons of people willing to listen to me anyways then I'd do it as well.
Sakura knows how to sing, le sserafim just doesn’t suit her
@@Im_seungtesthic She really does not. She also sang horribly when she was a japanese idol and when she performed in produce 48.
girl what excuse? it's just weird that yall are hating on the slightest things
Girl please you wouldn't even make it.. tryna make yourself feel better huh it's giving "I'm insecure!!"💀
@@BlessingNdlovu-mt6rq Okay? and that means nothing. So if you went to a famous restaurant and they serve you awful food, obviously you are gonna say it's awful. with your logic, people should shut up even when they get served bad food because they aren't a chief themselves.
I just think that Sakura’s vocal cords are damaged, because of how she used to sing in HTK48…
Sakura needs to grow up. It's extremely hard for me to feel sympathy for her bc she is not the only one having a hard time in kpop.
She never said she is the only one!! The difference between other idols and her is that others dont show thier bad side its a docu ofcorse its going to be emotional like haven't u guys watched any documentary yet dont u see the main reason for it to show the behind struggles of stage!! Like stop calling it sympathy!!
@@imzaina other idols don't struggle cuz of bad vocals. There is a difference, learn it
God forbid someone have emotions
@@shoes4127 they do. Are you saying every kpop idol is Celine Dion????
@@Kavyawoo1511 No kpop idol is bad as Sakura. Sakura sings worse than normal people that hasn't been trained. Go watch her sing live, it's awful.
In corporate, people don’t typically get this far unless they have a family connection, very wealthy family, or they are a people pleaser so easily manipulated by their boss to do anything. It does not make sense how far she has come
or that a group was formed around her (instead of Chaewon) which has been alleged. This would only work if she was a Korean visual because she’s one of them and the emphasis on beauty. I don’t get the fan’s loyalty to her unless they see themselves (struggling in a job or wishing to be something) in her which is a PR/ad strategy. You feel connected to her and want her to win because that means you can win.
Fr it's incredible
She already was famous in Japan and had a big fanbase on China, like top tier fanbase, she was and still is a easy way to make money, being idol for her werent about talent until she gets to Korea.
@@odilioferro Sadly, Sakura only got big in Korea because of her visual and her popularity in Japan. She would have never made it if she didn't have those, since she has no 'talent' or skills.
Fearnots during unforgiven era: "She's still improving"
THEN WHY DOES SHE SOUND HORRIBLE DURING EASY ENCORE🤡🤡
"out of vocal range"
"They are forcing her to sing out of her vocal range 😢"
That’s one encore if you fail a test your whole life isn’t down to that test watch any other performance their tour fanmeets and even Weverse con their vocals a fire
Along with Easy encores that people feel are bad, there are more where she sounds good vocally. If you don’t feel it’s good enough, you don’t have to tune in. Even in their most recent performance Sakura had a full solo, while performing live during a festival. You a few encores to define her efforts, but when she does well no one values the work.
Newjeans are so bad. Mr removed have video of them. Newjeans vocalists are worst than Sakura lol. Newjeans should hire vocal coach & learn breathing technique. They are so bad. In many parts, they don't even sing💀💀. Le Sserafim got fullforce hate on March & April( Easy era) but why not not in Fearless & Anifragile era? Because Le Sserafim is getting famous, got invite in prestigious events, receive lots of endorsers compared before, so haters are bringing them down because haters fav idols are sinking & flopping?😢😢💀💀.It so obvious why newjeans didn't get the same hate even they are vocally bad especially live singing. Le Sserafim should not receive hate as well, It's because MHJ minions/paid medias are spreading defamation againts Le Sserafim & other hybe artists. Very suspicious! Why they only hate Le Sserafim in April & March? Why not in Fearless & Antifragile era? Mhj is very envious & fault finder. Especially when Illit debut & they got 11 wins already & that's where MHJ fully explode!
10 years in the industry and still can't sing that's embarrassing plus i don't think she's trying anymore
I wonder when ppl who actually pity Sakura will understand that everything is just a media play to lessen the hate
plus the excuse they made her mouth is absolutely wild, like imagine a surgeon declaring that they are afraid of performing an operation on someone
Like lol its literally just to gain sympathy from their fans and the public why dont insteed of crying she take actual vocal lesson
Ikr lmao
@@fukanoonwish999 frr girl has been crying for 2 years yet we can't see any improvements
Ikr ?? How naive are some people ???
Yea yae we know kpop idols do work hard, they are minor, they are human
But I'm pretty sure they debuted after knowing how the industry is plus those 3 who went to survival show obviously knows how you get treated there and Chaewon and Sakura has been an idol for years didn't they realized how tough this industry is? And after knowing how harsh it is to the point people kill themselves they still chose to debut now you gotta take it
Kind of off topic but like also not rlly, but Hybes girl groups seem to not be doing well like at all 😭
Le sserafim with this vocal controversy, ILLIT and Newjeans CEOS, and Fromis 9 just isn’t promoted at all 😭
I've always wondered how sakura made it this far in this industry considering the dancing is the only thing she has going on for her......
She was really popular back in Japan yk its like a card for hybe i guess, to be popular everywhere. Unless she literally doesnt add anything to the group...????
Popularity and money.
can't forget her visuals, that's the most important thing.
@@sunhyolicher visual pillar is practically cracking at this point
@@vser6768OMG YOU AGAIN??? BRO GO SEE THE SUN.
The way you just spoke complete and utter FACTS. It's pathetic that idols cant even sing anymore
yes, like they can't even sing THIER SONGS anymore
Literally who cares? Why should vocals matter? Its not like y'all are gonna keep listening to their vocals on Spotify. It's just music oml
@@nctwink “what is point of doctor, when people can search all the answers in internet “
@@nctwinkI don't know about you guys but I listen to 𝙈𝙪𝙨𝙞𝙘 for the instrumentals
@@nctwink so we should listen to the instrumental instead
I don't condone the hate toward her or people laughing at her misery, because bad vocals are not that serious at the end of the day. But the undeniable fact is that neither the company nor Sakura herself is willing to work on improving her vocals, and this has been true since she signed on with them. We know she 's capable of improvement, since she's improved tremendously at dancing. We know the company can afford it, since they've paid for some of the girls to have plastic surgery - no judgment, but it's not cheap - plus, there are literally hundreds of online vocal coaches that would jump on the chance to work for a HYBE sublabel. And not only has she been hearing the same thing since Produce 48 from professionals in the industry, she's got ears, so she knows her own weaknesses, but she's still choosing not to try and get better. I don't understand how she had the gall to tell the public with a straight face that her performance at Coachella was the best performance of her career, when this documentary shows her crying over her lack of skills months prior. She's basically gaslighting the fans at this point. And those are just the bare facts, the excuses don't matter. If she had the technique, she would still sound passable even while lacking confidence. If the company is unwilling to pay, there are so many videos online she could watch to learn some vocal exercises that target specific issues she might be struggling with. So I think people have a right to critique this about her, anything beyond that is a bit much
HYBE should fire every single one of Le Sserafim's vocal coaches and replace them with one's that actually TEACH.
I think nowadays these so called idols lacks passion for music. They just want excuse for not improving their skills. You are a" singer"because you are passionate about it not because of the fans. Even I can sing way better than her without any training. ( No hate )
I saw the comments in the episode, it's so disappointing seeing all the people who are rooting for her when she is the one who chose to do all this, fans keep saying the korean fans are too harsh, but I think the korean fans are absolutely correct. You should not be sugar coating everything just because you "love" them.
imagine thinking that getting hatred spewed at you as an idol due to lacking skills is just the nature of the job.. sHe sIgNeD uP fOr tHiS.
She is not the only one having a hard time, the truth is that she is weak.
@@ayanobadass949With the amount of hate you spew on your account , don't be surprised if one of these days you end up in source music lawsuit. I'd be more careful with my words on the internet if I were you. Every sentence you say is a digital footprint.
@@ManishaGupta-dg8eo 😂😂
@@ayanobadass949 literally their company has started sueing malicious commentators. If you don't believe me why don't you check it for yourself.
Come on we all should be encouraging her not saying shits like this to a person
SAY IT LOUDER ( txt reference )
I agree that the documentary is likely damage control from source music. Big companies are so sneaky. However, truly I feel bad for the girls. There is a difference from hate and criticism. And these girls tend to get alot more hate disguised as criticism and its bad. I can't wish that on a human being. Still, their company doesn't look out for them. Can't tell me that they didn't know of the girls skill levels and they pushed them to debut and preform at Coachella before they were ready and had proper training and significant improvement. I feel bad for the members of the group but i do not like their company at all.
this feels very confusing because if she can't sing easy because it is in a lower range why can't she improv during the encore and sing it a note higher?
Probably bc she sucks at both.
People in the comments who are saying her to shut up she is litreally saying facts give me a reason why sakura should be bad at her only job? why didn't she improve from 2022 to 2024? what another weird ass defending will the fear nots give?
is someone being "bad at their job" really worth endless online harassment she's a literal stranger who's never done anything to hurt you
Honestly if you're scared of singing in public why even become a singer?
It makes me mad that the fandom literally praises Sakura when she sounds like a dying cat she's so horrible and I still wonder why she's in the group
Sakura is just a bad singer, along with most of Le Sserafim. People saying Yunjin or Chaewon are carrying the group is a joke lol, what is carrying the group is high production and pretty, super skinny girls performing their TikTok dances.
I hate idols documentaries bc companies only releases them when they either are having a scandal or are needing sympathy from people.
i know chaewon is tired af of carrying that whole group on her back
embarrassing that seowon from unis, a whole 13 year old, is a leagues better vocalist than sakura in her fucking mid 20s
I agree that some of the criticisms are a bit harsh but come on guys, she’s been an idol her whole life and I don’t think she wants to improve her vocals.
She is 26 years old with 12 years in experience. Irene debuted at 23 and she kept improving. She's not Wendy but she improved. If you hear wonyoung now, she sings live well.
What you said at the ending of the video was straight up facts. She is sooo privileged to still be in a group with the lack of talent that she has, meanwhile people who don’t have it like that NEED to be the best or else they have nothing.
I don't have a thing against lsfm but how has Sakura not shown even an ounce of development? She needs to take a break, get mentally strong to deal with the anxiety of "not being good enough" and simultaneously get vocal lessons. From aespa to ive, all faced immense hatred but you saw them improve, I just can't see it from her. I hope she gets better and that's all I can do, hope.
They’re really trying to pull the Céline Dion documentary move 😂😂😂but the difference is Céline Dion literally has a unique disease that prevents her from singing, Sakura just sucks blatantly for no specific reason. Like it’s not the same babe😂😂after watching the Céline Dion documentary I felt inspired and so sympathetic and understanding. With Sakura there’s no excuse that’s what baffles me, Hybe is so dumb because the whole documentary was”we know she suck’s but she’s trying her best” unless Sakura has a sickness or a issue that prevents her from singing I can’t feel sorry for her.
People with sakura un learning bad sing habits is harder than learning from scratch they should not have debut a girl with bad singing habits and low self-esteem is a dangerous combination
If you were that scared why do it? Why continue doing this? Leave
Nah I think she likes to stick around just to bug yall
If I had a job that paid me millions of dollars I’d do my best to improve and actually do my job well. Not cry about completely valid criticism on crappy work.
Well don’t nobody asked
Except you don't. And hard pill to swallow but she gets paid regardless of said "criticisms" so its all pointless really.
I totally understand her crying because of the pressure and hate comments she gets form not being able to sing, but come on hybe, train your idols properly, after years of being under your agency an idol still isn’t improving then SOMETHING has gotta change wether it be new techniques or actually focusing on why she can’t sing properly. She chose this career, it’s hybe’s responsibility to support it and using such lame tactics to get sympathy is just so low and honestly unnecessary, just get better at it. It definitely is easier to say than do, but it’s literally that simple.
Rather than ab exercises they should focus more on vocal exercises
my only problem with sakura (and the other members of lesserafim aside from chaewon and MAYBE yunjin on a good day) is that they are setting this precedent in the industry where idols can get away for lacking in the ONE area that their main job scope covers. what are future idols or current trainees going to think? "oh this group lacks in vocal skills but they're still famous, has lots of fans, and still receiving awards so why should we work/train so hard? people will still defend us anyway". and this will be how the kpop industry falls.
there it is folks - orbz6997 here predicted the collapse of the entire kpop industry as we know it
hybe should def consult with you moving forward since you seem to have so much insight
You can’t never make me hate
le sserafim ❤😘 I love you Sakura ❤️
Same❤ I love le sserafim
No one tries to make you hate them.
Yall Literally Been Hating Since Their Debut & It Got Worse Overall It’s A Difference Between Criticizing & Full Out Hating. They Literally Been Documenting This For Awhile Now & The Thing Is Y’all Act Like They’re Not Humans & That They Can’t Cry.
Honestly I get kinda triggered everytime I watch sakura, I can relate to her a little but I just can't simpazise with her, look let me tell you something:
I've been singing my whole life (I'm a natural singer) but I have a friend that told me how she learned how to sing *from scratch* , she said she practiced say an hour every day, line per line, even word for word if necessary for a *YEAR* and now I think she sings better than me, there's no excuse.
Bro EVEN unis members (newly debuted gg) they only trained for 1 yr 3 yrs and they can sing well and do well in live performances ☠️
Thank god someone pointed it out.
The timing was actually smart. They are getting Massive hate and critisism and now they have to release an album but they will again get hate so they have to release the documentry to get sympathy votes. It's sad that she lost her confidence but this is her job at the end of the day. Assume it as a corporate world. She would be easily replaced and no one care. If she really want people to support her she have to improve. Pity party can only take her so far.
As for see BTS Jimin this man received massive critisism for his encore which was valid but I never saw him cry anywhere instead he took vocals lessons seriously and his live vocals are so much improved in his new MUSE album. That's how you prove and shut people. Crying and doing all this will only get you sympathy not RESPECT.
like what happening in hype they can basically take vocal lessons instead of making a documentary
I think it's just a new thing in hype to not giving their idols vocal lessons to make more attention, it's all started from newjeans
This one is so damn true an idol is crying because she can't sing for more than 2 years, and the fans thinks that she is trying her best, I say this is complete bullshit there hasn't been any improvement, HYBE is good at using victim card and fans believe it
I just wish Cheryl Porter could have at least A MONTH with her. She’d probably give her actual training and confidence
Sakura needs to grow upp
@@Kittypearls_46 i like Sakura it's just that she always plays the victim
@@HaerinconCAUSE SHE IS THE VICTIM. y'all bullied her too much to the point where she's actually afraid. Ppl like you, is the reason why some idols are dead due to hate.
You need to grow up and actually realize that sakura is human like all of us. Y'all bullied her too much to the point where she's afraid bcs of y'all and y'all are still making fun of her. 😐 Don't be suprised when an idol kills themselves due to hate and depression because of people like you.
@@Kittypearls_46you Stan babymonster, the one who should actually grow up is ahyeon since she wants to play the victim so bad js to get the center of attention. She does too much and now she's lazy and wants to be Jennie so bad, tell ahyeon to actually do her damn job right and quit pouting js because she can't handle criticism before coming at sakura.
@@nctwinkidk she trained for 7 years? Our standards are of course gonna be high and if she can't reach them yk the criticism and hate she's gonna face
She's been an idol for more than a decade, if what she claim is true that she's been taking vocal training and still cant improve then i guess Sakura and her fans should accept that she has no talent for singing.
I wanted to say something like this but didn't want to get dragged by fearnuts
REAL HAHAHA
You are not even a coward, you're less than that
@@sapoteton4000 oh no….😟😟😟😟
Wonyoung get alot more backlash than this basic idol
She does more crying than training her voice
Agreed because she has been in this industry for wayyyy to long to be preforming like a trainee
I mean, I have nothing against Sakura, I like her, but what's crazier for me is the amount of EXTREMELY talented girls on survival shows, including reality shows from HYBE itself, talented girls we haven't seen and most of them WE WON'T SEE debut. Sakura is a great person, but her job is to be an idol, which mainly consists of being a SINGER, if you are bad at your job even in basic things, if what you can deliver is something mediocre or even bad, why are you crying in a documentary so that people feel sorry for you not doing the minimum necessary in your work? And it's questionable for HYBE especially. Why debut in a group someone who clearly doesn't have what it takes to be an idol, while several train to be there with MUCH more talent and potential? It makes no sense at all. Maybe for popularity? Perhaps ignorance? It makes no sense to debut someone who is not able to do the minimum in a sea where there are several who could do the maximum.
I know.. another Sob story. Other idols too go through same things and those who really want to learn and change..they do. But seeing them not improve and now selling a sob story is so sad .
yes, it is sad that shes being hated on for crying.. but tbh HYBE set her up! idek what they were expecting?? that all the people who were hating on her would do a whole 360...
Great, now u made Sakura's confidence low...
People like sultry film are the main reason why they lose confidence
The person that owns this channel definitely exhibits sociopathic tendencies and needs help
Yes, It's Sultry's fault that Sakura has insecurity issues as a grown woman who has no reason to not be a good singer by now. Idols are public figures, they will be critiqued and hated on by the internet. Stop babying your favs.
@@BellaBlooms2244 is babying in the room with us? I'm just saying that she made Sakura's confidence low. Idols are NOT public figures they are someone's Sister, Brother, Neice, Daughter, Son. Sakura can sing. She was just nervous at Coachella, plus to add more, I don't want any other idols to go through the same thing anymore.
You might be the realest kpop "commentator?" out there 😂🙏🏻
She ain’t
Why do we all not learn to stop? People will never stop until an idol decided....to stop... Stop being toxic smh. Kpop idols nowadays is being treated like they are healthcare professionals lmao. Sakura may not be good, but I do consider her to be 'average'. We should seriously stop with these ridiculous standards when all we came for in Kpop is their music smh. I thought people will learn to be sensitive about the hate especially when there were idols who were..... hays. Lol. Be forever toxic guys 👍
Let’s not pretend K-pop is about singing, are there k-pop idols who can sing? of course , but if K-pop was truly about vocals, every kpop group would look very different. She signed up to be an idol not a singer and the two are different. I do think it’s okay to criticize her and not pity her! There is a difference between hating and criticism though and people online do cross that line frequently.
Being an idol is about singing , dancing and superficial things yes singing is primordial are you going to put their music on mute just because k pop is not only about singing? No.
@@la_marrchall_lorrainedo le sserafim sound bad in their songs? No. So should their fandom give af? Also no
@@la_marrchall_lorraine kpop isn't all about singing cos they literally street cast people! Hard pill to swallow but it's all about looks... You look appealing.. You have good sales value.. You will be trained. That's why people who wanna be ARTISTS don't want to be idols. Jae from day6 quit for the same reason, yedam quit for the same reason. Not every kpop singer needs to know how to sing and still sustain in the group for their visual. That's a known fact and I know it very well being in the kpop fandom since 2016
If she tired I’d be more sympathetic. After she got criticized for her Coachella performance she went live and made every excuse she could instead of saying yes I’ve done bad and will improve. Until she actually tries to be good at the job she gets paid millions of dollars to do the hate will keep coming
Sorry but their fan really exlect the critisize to be baby siting for them???If she is so sad..she CHOSE this job!,This is her job .
I remember her getting A in sutvival show i was like no way better trainees got C/D
Idk I agree with everyone else when they say her confidence is key to why she isn’t improving. She honestly just needs to take a break from social media and also the group to get her mental health back in check. I feel she has lots of potential but her confidence is getting in the way, and also HYBE isn’t making songs that cater to her vocals. I used to not feel bad for her like you, but after a while you start to realize that low confidence will make everything you do look like you aren’t good at it even if you are. She nervous on stage cause of the hate she reads and prob has anxiety too. I really want her to take a break and get herself together mentally wise and restore her confidence. Being that she’s in Hybe I think they will let her do it.
Thank you for always speaking straight FACTS
I agree.
I don't
You can figure out how to sing with stability by yourself. You just practice! My high school choir did better, and they never got paid a dime.
It's not a pity party... The documentary is very fit with Lesserafim's situation... Who would know if this already planned from beginning... HYBE really want to make every Fimmies journey being a group idol very transparent because that seems of what Lesserafim's... They make big goal and statement as a starter. I think because BSH might see Lesserafim would be famous in different way... I don't know. However, since their debut, Lesserafim's always get jinxed which is very worrying me. Whatever it is... I hope nothing would lead to serious controversy... If it does, how lucky NewJeans to debut after.
Tbh at this point hybe should just fire her because she has been training every day to sing and has been in many groups and still can't sing. And she is so spoilt because she can't even sing but still gets money and she always crys when people say she sings bad and she always relies on other like the staff do to something about and what's more shocking is SHE IS AM ADULT. Like take responsibility and go on TH-cam and search up how to sing because there is so many vocal excerise to help you sing instead of just crying all the time and just expecting people to feel pity for you. Like if I was the head of hybe I would just fire her because if she can't sing and they do daily concert then she should just leave. And it's honestly gonna be better for her because she always says shes getting bullied so just leave then and U won't get bullied anymore and you don't have to overwork or anything.
How did she even got in the final line up, what was hybe thinking.
Yall here in the comments being defensive like this is your full time job 😂 Mentioning the s*icide and all that really shows what age group youre a part of, if youre not good at your job, youre getting fired and told about it. Are we supposed to feel bad because she cries and be like "oh no poor her Ill say shes good now just stop crying"? would not survive a week in 2nd or early 3rd gen with the lack of talent. K-pop is a music genre before anything else so the voice should be put first, end of the discussion
hybe does media plays like this all the time. and still, yet again, fans and netizens fall for it all the time.
Her voice was damaged from doing the cute singing in the past, in the japanese singing in pretty sure. So singing practices wont be enough.
Yeah they are not good singers 😐 they're down fall was preforming here in the USA where vocals MATTER. I understand that in japan and korea it doesn't matter if they're idols can sing as long as they are pretty but the same standard is not held globally
I disagree with you this time. Though Le sserafim lacks of good vocals, I would rather like to see Sakura being “petty” just for expressing her feelings than having suic…l thoughts. Remember Sulli, Goo Hara and more, they strive to perfection until they lost their minds and that lead them to suic… We need the idols to be more mentally healthy now
That's why being a kpop idol is not for everyone. If she wants to continue with this career, she needs to put in the work and stop being a baby.
Sakura was a wrestler, so you’d think she would have grown a pair. 😂😂😂
But in all seriousness, while I do feel bad that she is scared to sing and that’s probably why she isn’t improving, she keeps choosing to re-debut as an idol. So, in a way, she’s doing it to herself. She has had more than enough opportunities to improve and has even taken opportunities away from others. Yet, she still lacks progress.
Just enjoy kpop for its music, it's people like you all that need to mature including the creator of this channel. This channel creator simply wants to earn money by spreading hate through her videos. She has spread online hate towards artists like bts , bp, lsfm, illit ( who are minors btw ), red velvet and many more.
@@QAmodbshe wasnt a wrestler, that was just for a show
@@StanIVEandStraykids4LIFEThen you would think she had grown a pair through her 13 years of experience.
Sakura deserves criticism for her time she’s been in this industry for 10 years!! But.. no hate if your going to hate someone hate HYBE for not letting her train more after izone before debuting LS. In my opinion there’s no way for her to improve anymore tbh. So sad what the K-pop industry has come to where we’ll be getting more idols that don’t know how to sing and visuals will be taken over.
It was 2 years ago she complain about her singing and she complain about the same thing again 2 years after? Left the group please.😂
I agree with you but at the same time I believe people are taking the "criticism" too far. Imagine you start a new job (ex. in a restaurant) and people tell you all the time that you're useless and you don't know how to do things and you should retire. How am I supposed to improve? Instead, that would make me feel insecure and be more afraid of making mistakes. But if in my work they encourage me to improve and make me feel better like "you can do it if you do it this way..." and things like that.
People confused hate with constructive criticism. You don't need to bully her online everyday. You can tell Sakura was not good but at least she sounded better and more confident in the past. It's difficult to remove old habits when you have sung for a whole decade with the wrong technique. Especially if people tell you that you're tone deaf, instead of explaining to you your main issues and how to improve this aspects.
I don't stan le sserafim but that's how I see things from my perspective. The best she (and her group) can do is to improve and prove haters wrong
Source Music handles criticisms and hates the worst! Imo, if u watched their last coachella performance, Sakura was the most stable (not technique wise but she was not out of breath and she also surpassed other members when it comes to dancing)
But people would not look at it that way because Source Music keeps pushing theyre perfect and they should not be criticised... dude, just accept it, and prove yourselves. Stop forcing it to our throats because forcing is never the right solution to make people like you. 😪😪😪
then don’t feel bad for her. nobody ever wanted to know what you had to say. you couldve kept it to yourself. “she cant sing but has been a singer for over a decade” maybe they teached her differently in japan? and it’s hard for her to relearn the so called “correct” way?
"Nobody wanted to know what you had to say 🤓☝" Yet you are here it's not a bad thing to admit it ok ?
@@ayanobadass949instead of using excessive emojis, tone it town to aleast 1 or 2 emojis during this kind of situation
@@StanIVEandStraykids4LIFE Damn ok :(
I wanted to know what she had to say. Why is she not allowed freedom of speech? She's pointing out facts, regardless of how much hybe's emotional strategy to get the public's sympathy worked on you, just use your brain and ears properly and you will agree with this video too.
She trained at hybe too, if she can't adapt then she can't survive in the industry simple as that, that's just natural selection. You can't progress in the industry if your not getting on the train of success.
If she just don't want to
sing girl it's so esay just quit because there are lots of talented and more importantly "passionate" ppl out there so just leave. ( Passion is important your well power is important)Because i stan those singer who wanna to a singer not just they are singing because of the fans you are a singer because you want to do it if not just leave isn't it soo difficult . Maybe she not meant for being an idol so simple.( It's not a hate towards her or for the group BUT seriously isn't it so difficult to leave) ❤
I feel so bad for this :/ They are so working hard and you shouldn't post this video yk that they are going to sue people who hate so you should take this video down.
Sultry film dropping something valid we all clapped 👏👏
🔥🔥❗️🗣🗣🗣🗣
STOP HYPING THESE UNTALENTED GIRLS
"untalented" have u watched the documentary
@@vchacrumbs_ THE THING IS I DON'T NEED TO THEY REALLY ARE UNTALENTED DID YOU NOT SEE THEIR COCHELLA PERFORMANCE?
@@LIARLILA Coachella was literally in April. You guys really ran out of comebacks huh? Didn't you see them on Jennifer Hudson, MTV, Summer gayo daejun 2024 and weverse con? Those are all live
@@vchacrumbs_ DON'T DEFFEND THEM PLEASE COME ON IF YOU REALLY WANT TO STAN A GIRL GROUP STAN TWICE,ITZY ETC BUT NOT THEM
OMG PLZ DONT SUPPORT THEM, SUPPORT MY FAVS INSTEAD I BEG YOU. MY SENSE OF IDENTITY DEPENDS ON IT PLZ.