what griffin doesn't understand is that sony are trying to push the goal post so that people think $800 is "acceptable" for a console when it isn't, a console of all things should not cost near $1k even if its the pro model
Exactly and it's supposed to be the "more accessible, cheaper" market compared to pc. But that seems to be less of a thing with each generation. Also, as of lately, I can't really advocate for how the PC market is doing business for modern gaming either, because a lot of newer games force you into hardware upgrades via bad performance that was only optimized for a quantum supercomputer/nasa PC.
especially when its going to rely on upscaling and frame gen to crutch on, it does not feel good to play with frame gen on and upscaling can have a large list of visual problems
Yeah remember when Xbox wanted to do drm, always online, share your library with up to 10 friends and all that. That meant your games being scanned and being basically digital. Sony came out with the opposite because fans hated it. Now years later and more and more those things are happening. Fanboys think these companies care about them lol. They want digital because they know we don’t own the games. Even Europe is trying to force these companies to say buying a digital copy doesn’t mean ownership.
My """"hot take""""": the PS5 pro was completely unneeded in the first place, the normal PS5 is plenty powerful enough. If studios actually gave their devs time to optimize they're games everything would run at 4k 60 no problem, the push for ray tracing in everything has ruined a lot of games through sheer performance issues alone.
Honestly, game devs are trying so hard to make "pretty" games they forget that 90% of the playerbase doesnt have the rigs they are building the games on. For american game devs(dont know about other countries) the company running it can afford to make top of the line rigs for all their coding and playtesting computers because its all ✨️tax deductable✨️ but most people dont have that luxury
@@sneakycacti and thats the case for mid tier gpus too that cost $600 a 4070 super for $600 cant do native 4k wtihout dlss which is fake 4k aswell thats my point
We are talking about the same guy that poor shame other's because they didn't have enough money to purchase a RTX 4090, the same guy that admit that he have no idea of pc components and just buy the most expensive parts, this guy is like the Sony ponies. And He have a video in the past advicing if a console price is 800$ just buy a pc.
Once upon a time, Griffin declared the epic games store bad for PC gaming. He even ripped apart a fanboy who lashed out at him for doing so. I guess it’s true what they say, you either die a hero, or you live to see yourself become the shill.
Based gamer: "This plastic box is overpriced and you would rather spend your money building a PC. The PS5 Pro is not worth buying and that is my honest opinion" Griffin Gaming: "pfft how dare you talk about this plastic box with paywalls I simp hard for. Maybe youre poor if you can't shell out over near 800 to 900 for it. Now excuse me as I go ask my rich parents to get me more stuff, PLEBES!!!!"
Damn... I used to see Griffin Gaming as the leafyishere of console fanboy's that he would make fun of console fanboy's and even fanboy's to video games.. Back when I first discover him from the epic games store controversy but since now he basically became what he swear to destroy since he is a console fanboy Like I think it is funny and sad of him defending a very overpriced gaming console that basically will cost you about $1000 lmao.. 😂
I was actually one of the people that held off on buying the PS5 because I thought the Pro would have a reasonable price and I've just been stuck with Switch since 2019. I'm just thinking about getting a PC and VR now.
@@kurtisdeakin I had a kind of low-end laptop, but the charger stopped working and I haven't used it in like 2-3 years. Somehow, I still didn't have Steam though.
It is a border line scam because you said you can't play your games because they're physical. You can buy the drive but the console is technically incomplete as you say.
All games on pc can be free if you wanted, emulator are free, internet is free, game is cheaper. console is always and always more expensive AFTERWARD. Pc is expensive first hand and harder to entry due to knowledge required window 10 there is a command and free server to fully get update and full support from MS. The watermark is not even a problem
I have a feeling that GTA 6 will do good numbers, but wont match or outsell GTA 5 numbers and people will continue playing GTA Online on 5 instead. Basically RDR2 situation.
Literally just got a $700 PC. Can run everything I throw at it at 4K with at least high settings at a playable framerate, or turn the res down when I’m not plugged into the TV and have the framerate tick even higher. And I don’t have to worry about Microsoft or Sony taking away the games I bought anymore, or them preventing me from buying a game ever again. It’s not as convenient for gaming as consoles used to be, but modern consoles aren’t as convenient as consoles used to be, either, and as you said, there’s *a lot* more you can do with a PC than a console anyway. Coming from someone who was a lifelong console guy, this generation really is just a long, expensive advertisement for PC gaming. :/
Laptop with Ryzen 7 7735HS, RX 7700s and 16GB DDR5. It retails for $1100, but Best Buy has it on sale for hundreds off pretty much every other week. I’ve seen it go as low as $675, but the thing’s a little beast. Well worth it if you want a lappy.
Ps 5 and series x was marketed to be leap into 60-120fps but within 2 years we already were back at 30fps with minor upgrade in how games look... i dont get why they try to still push graphics when we dont need it at this point anymore we need games that run well 😬
Console fanboys take their love for their console too personally that it makes them believe that the said console manufacturer are basically Gods! Remember when Griffin Gaming called out PlayStation fanboys? He's fallen into the minds of PlayStation fanboys 😂...
Bro didn't actually make the perfect comparison with Apple lol. The last 3 or 4 generations of Apple phones have basically been the smallest upgrades. Playstation is kinda the Apple of gaming right now.
What's hilarious about all this, was that if im not mistaken, Griffin was an Xbox fanboy up until Microsoft "screwed him" with the Xbox One X. Then he became a PC refugee, and then got roasted for being an Nvidia fanboy justifying i think the 3090 expensive cost and calling people brokies Now all of a sudden he's defending the PS5 Pro and has been more pro-playstation despite his past as a xbox fanboy as well as his pseudo-PCMR grift Dude is just grifting it up. Grifting all over the place like does he even play games any more? All he does now is react and grift to right wingers, may of whom aren't even gamers they just boucne from one echo chamber to another. He also joined that grift like AndyPants, like Endymion, and the others with mid-below mid channels who need to grown an audience
griffin is a known pony, it is normal. he doesnt know that ps5 pro is literally the same, they dont even upgrade CPU which zen 2 cpu is slow ass and 100% wont be able to run GTA 6 30 fps consistency, let's alone 60 fps. Also Sony talks about more computes unit but not performance, because they know performance prob only few % more on higher resolution Also ps4 to ps5 is massive upgrade in CPU and SSD. SSD run game much much faster compare to slow HDD and CPU at least for that time 2019 is a massive upgrade over ps4 pro slow cpu which 100% cant run game 60 fps which the ps5 can. If you know anything about pc tech you would know this knowledge. Yes you can 100% tell ps4 and ps5 right away given they use hardware right. A ps4 game will 100% load in 5 minute where a ps5 game will load in 20s even less.
My SSD ps4 can load most of its games in 5-15 seconds. So that was not a buy motivator for me. I remember thinking base ps5 was overpriced as well so I went with pc cause I could get more bang for my buck. Hell, console generations don't even last 10 years anymore despite the ridiculous hardware prices. Lo and behold, a couple years after that and the ps5 is even worse in terms of price-value ratio.
@@shambleshef I am talking stock, even so the ps5 is also a massive upgrade for cpu. your ps4 game cant run any game at 60 fps due to slow Cpu unless the game downgrade your res but it is totally up to dev, on pc it doesnt happen as you can choose any resolution which is why PC is superiror People saying ps4 to ps5 is not a good upgrade which is not true. Not only it has better cpu, gpu and SSD gen 4 which you can totally buy a gen 4 ssd for dust cheap and upgrade ps5 even more. In general, 60 fps is the least you go for , I cant even play 60fps on pc, cuz it is vomit.
Interesting, I did not know the 5 had a decent cpu in it. Makes sense for people who are console only I guess. I'd still rather put that ps5 money towards a PC though
@@shambleshef watch even Phil spen the xbox head guy said xbox one x problem is the cpu, that is why even the Gpu was upgrade over xbox one , it couldn't run game at 60 fps And the ps4 also isn't a good upgrade over ps4 due to same slow ass hdd and cpu. This ps5/xbox series gen is the leap and now samething happens to ps5 pro with 0 improvement. not sure if xbox series has pro version
I've seen so many people talk about this, but it never gets old. The takes I hate the most is when he says "The least amount you should spend on a PC is $1800" and "I pay for windows because I'm not a disgusting broke plebeian" First of all, for the same price that the PS5 PRO is for American ($699), you can get an RTX 2050 gaming laptop Canadian, which means you actually get it for less in American money! This laptop comes with windows activated. But I guess I'm just a disgusting broke plebeian if I get this laptop that has ray-tracing and does way more than the PS5 PRO for way less (like around $500 American).
@@sneakycacti I might've made a mistake, my bad. I saw this Asus gaming laptop in my local best buy and it might've been a typo. The description listed an RTX 2050 and 8 gigs of DDR5 ram. I think it was on sale but it could've been an RTX 2060.
and there exists RTX 3050/4050 laptops for 799$ with gen 13/14 intel gen, 1TB SSD, 16/32GB Ram, 17 Zoll screen and 1920 x 1080. Laptops got crazy good for cheap.
I mean ps 4 and 3 are goated consoles I still play ps 4 and not just pc ps 5 is expensive I would just settle for ps4 I made a ton of memories on ps 4 and 3
I'm so glad that my job makes PC gaming so easy, since I take apart PC, Laptops, and such. I wanted to get a $1200 PC, but decided to get something cheaper, as not to break my wallet. I can get keyboards and mice for free from my job, I have microphones, cameras, speakers, headsets, control peripherals for console, which I can buy adapters or find some at work to be able to use them on my PC. If saving money makes me a brokie, then I'm proud to be. Apparently Griffin never learn that PC gaming can be a expensive or as cheap as you want it to be. That's the beauty of the PC platform. Also, bruh. Why did that common infected have to catch a stray like that? Homie was just minding his business. The Tank ain't have to do him like that.
@@smartphonefan5226 That's what makes it worse. Him having a degree in finance is the most baffling thing about all of this, when you'd think that would make him better with money and wanting to save as much as possible.
I don''t think Griffin understands the concept of value, and I also don't think he understands or cares about things like performance. The cost of something becomes king in his mind. In many markets the budget and mid range tend to be where the most competition is found. It's also where you will often find the value per dollar at it's peak. So to a normal person the idea of spending about the same on a PC that you would on the PS5 pro and getting about the same perforrmance is not a strange idea. It won't get you top performance or anything, but if you shop around and maybe even look into some used parts you build a rig that meets or surpasses the PS5 pro and that can do much more. That's if you are looking at both on a value basis. Most people don't have infinite money or parents that will buy them anything they want so they tend to look at the actual value of things as much or more than the price itself because they want to prioritize what matters most to them for the money can are able or willing to spend. Griffin on the other hand seems to see only the price and seems to think higher price always means better. So if he spent 5k on his PC, and somebody showed him how they got mostly the same performance if not the same or better on a rig half the price, Griffin would probably have a confused look on his face. Because not only does he only care about price, he may not even understand what any of the specs actually mean. Combine this with brand loyalty and you have the ultimate "consoomer". He's the exact kind of person that corporations love. If Sony released a literal turd and priced it at 2k, he would go for it because it is the most expensive piece of shit ever and that makes it better for some reason. And if the Pro was released with the same specs but priced at 2k he would similarly defend it because in terms of consoles that would be the most epenssive console and therefore the best. So on PC he looks at the price of a high end build and sees that as the base line. If a build costs less, it is worse. If a build costs 800 dollars or so it is trash. Even if the performance is meeting or exceeding the console he doesn't care becuase it was never about the performance to him, only how much he could flex his wallet. PS. You can get a keyboard and mouse combo for 20 bucks that will work fine. I went years with just a logitech combo that worked fine for browsing and general usage. It probably wouldn't be great for FPS games though, but if those aren't your genre then I would focus more on getting a good controller. PC is not starved for good controller options either. I generally recommend the 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth controller, but for a more budget one I would recommend 8bitdo's Ultimate 2c controller. For 30 dollars that one has Hall effect sticks and triggers, and two extra buttons near the triggers. There are also other controllers about the same price that have hall effect sticks and the fact that even budget controllers are getting them makes one wonder how console manufacturers are getting away with not including them. Not even in their more expensive offerings.
I can find pre built pcs that are better than a ps5 pro. Thats just sad like i get prefering consoles if you prefer controllers. As were not at the point were we match make based off inputs rather than platform. The issue is were getting to the point were graphics are peaking and alot of games dont even benefit from the increase. Most cod players will never notice the difference in graphics from recent cod games. There really isn't much room for a big spec bump in modern consoles while still making it worth it to buy a console.
I can't wait for seeing the peach fuzz on a peach but for real with the graphics platoing it's definitely time for fps and gameplay focus since platoing graphics I don't give a f about the peach fuzz on the character
Almost 1k for no games, no stand, no drive, no backwards compatibility. I miss when Sony Sisters just defended exclusives. Now that those exclusives are playable on PC, they have to pivot to shittier positions.
I recently built my friend a solid 2k gaming pc, all latest tech, for £1000. Could've gone cheaper, but he wanted all current year stuff in it. So yeah, you can get a solid rig for that money that would shame the pro.
dear god, if the name Icarus wasn't taken by a more loved content creator, I'd advice griffon to change his channel to that, cause man he fell hard. how did he get so out of touch?
2:40 I don't know about that, bro... going back and playing my N64 with the expansion pak, I NEVER realized just how poorly games like Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, or Jet Force Gemini ran back then. Obviously, this is just an issue with the N64, and the rest of the consoles up to last gen tended to be good with what you wanted out of them.
Griffin doesn't seem to understand that the PS5 Pro, from a practical standpoint, is completely useless. There aren't going to be games that are made *just for* the Pro, and most game devs aren't going to go out of their way to optimize their games for the Pro, especially if those games are already out. Not only that, but the argument that people will want to upgrade their consoles is completely bullshit, because not only is this thing more expensive than a base PS5 (which again, will still be able to play all of the current gen games just fine), the fact that it doesn't come with a disc drive OR a stand means that it's basically a fucking downgrade, because now you have a console that might not even be able to play half of the games you own, and can't stand up properly. And, if your argument is that Sony wants people to buy this console if you don't own a PS5, then that argument can easily be deflected by the fact that almost everyone that wants a PS5 already has one. If they don't have one, they either own an Xbox, or a PC. Even if they don't have a PS5, most people are still probably just going to choose the cheaper console (AKA the base PS5) for cheaper, because again, it's still going to be able to play all the same games as the Pro.
here are a few notes you might find useful -The PS5 SSD is just a placebo SSD because it might have faster load times but the thing is that is hard coded, so it will not matter if you have a faster pcie 5 ssd it will perform way worse compared to the one on the PS5 becasue Clowny designed it that way. -based on PC benchmarks and the fact that Alan Wake 2 runs at 864p 60 on the PS5 Pro. its main specs would be a Ryzen 7 3700X and a 16GBs RX 6700. -Since griffin got his 3090 he has been brain rotting and has been calling poor to anyone who dares to not spend money on expensive hardware. -This isnt the first time he tried to call out somebody for complaining about an obvious rip-off, when "Jayz 2 cents" didnt recommend to buy the 4090 he called him "broke". -one of the biggest selling points on PC Gaming is hardware flexibility, unlike what Griffin thinks you dont need a 4090 to be a PC gamer. -Even if you arent a content creator you could need to do video editing/coding for a project or just fun, PC Gaming is also about multitasking. -other than some Personalization features and the watermark (both have workarounds) the windows key is rather useless because you still get updates and you can stilll use its services like GamePass -You can get cheap kbs/mouses that could last for years, or entry level mechanical kbs and mouses from well-known brands -You could even reduce Mutahar's build price considering he went for an Nvidia GPU (arguably expensiver), the PS5 Pro iGPU its an RDNA1/2 iGPU so a mid tier b550, a 5700g/x/5800x3d and either the 7600xt or 6750xt will already be faster than a ps5 pro for probably a bit more -"its only 1600 dollars, its not a life changing amount of money"
Grifting Gaming is talking about PC specs. And guess what, the guy didn’t even build his OWN PC. Once he started poor shaming people, instant unsubscribe.
There isn’t anything inherently wrong not wanting to build a pc, not everyone wants to do that. I don’t like Griffin but why does it bother you he didn’t build a pc?
I simply prefer consoles because of the convenience and the controllers. And Nintendo games. I also like the portability of handhelds like the Switch & 3DS.
I get that if you play multiplayer games as where not at the point were we match make based off input. But hopefully in the future that will be a possibility.
Griffin the past recent months has been spewing stupid takes dude. Before he was actually reasonable and honest. Now I don’t know. I’ve unsubscribed from him.
I want someone to make a video of them reacting to your reaction of griffin gaming's reaction to some ordinary gamers opinion on the ps5 pro and them someone else react to that video where they react to their reaction of your reaction of griffin gaming's reaction of some ordinary gamers reaction of the ps5 pro.
Griffin Gaming is so way out of touch with this that it isn't funny. He didn't need to call him out that harshly for what he said. Newsflash Griffin, HE WAS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!. No disc drive, no stand, STILL no backwards compatibility beyond the PS4 which you WOULD expect from a Pro refresh, and they want to charge us in Australia over $1000? GET REAL SONY!!!!!
If i pay 700 dollars for a pro model i should play GTA 6 at 60 fps but the game really doesn't matter for 30 fps because autolock exist. I play GTA sa with 30 fps because its the only way to play those games but, even after saying that, i still think 60 fps SHOULD be the standard now a days and since the pro model doesn't have. GTA 30, who cares but since most of the games that are coming out on ps5 are action games where 60 fps is NEEDED is what the issue is. WHY release a resfresh and don't BROTHER upgrading the cpu to a newer one???????????????????????? or at least to ryzen 5000 series one instead of still using 3000 series/weaker one. Makes this so pointless
I have all gaming platforms. Including PC. Every PC only content creator & PC only person commenting in the videos they make trying to compare a $700 PC to PS5 Pro. All of those videos that I've seen. Have not actually built a PC that is actually "equivalent" to the PS5. They cut a LOT of corners just to try to get the cost of the build down to $700. Making the build even further away from actually being equivalent. To be equivalent to PS5 Pro. The PC needs to have: •Wifi 7 motherboard •Hardware AI ML Upscaling (which disqualifies AMD GPU's) •enhanced level of Ray Tracing (PS5 Pro has RDNA 4 RT. Which isn't available in any current AMD GPU on the market. So the better solution is Nvidia again). •16 GB GDDR6 RAM •2TB PCIe 4x4 SSD at 7GB read (To bee comparable to the custom 7 lanes flash controller the PS5 SSD has). •Dualsense Controller (because the PS5 offers this which also adds other features such as haptic feedback & adaptive triggers, accelerometer etc) As well as the cost of: •a case •CPU •PSU Etc Also, over 80% of games bought on Playstation platform are digital (4 out 5 gamers are buying digital & have not even used their disc drive once). So the use of the disc drive is now niche. Also gaming PC's don't even come with disc drives and no one puts them in their builds. Also the vertical stand is only am accessory. The PS5 can stand vertically on it's own. The actual rain the stand was included with the OG PS5 is actually to lay it horizontally because it would otherwise wobble. They just added the feature of being able to also use it for vertical.
Not just this, but the technical specs haven't even been confirmed yet, but already people are crowing about how much more powerful it is than any PC of similar price. Based on nothing but corpos hardsell talk, vague percentage promises, and copium lol (remember when ps5 was promised to be 4k @60fps? Remember how well that went? lol) Every new console, we see the same lies and overhyped bullsh*t vomited out, and fanboys eat it up and re-sh*t it back out all over the forums. They've not even got exclusives anymore! Just a handful of timed exclusives as more and more go day&date. I saw one video crowing that on Amazon US, it's the top selling console atm and top of the Playstation category.... No shit! It's the only "new" console to be released at the moment and with no competetion! It's competing against nothing!! ffs how dumb you gotta be?!
I use to watch Griffin a little bit because at one point I believed he had level headed takes on gaming (even if I disagreed sometimes) and he had a weird dead pan kind of humor to go along with it (probably his bored sounding monotone voice). However, now I don't know what to think about him because his more recent takes on every argument he makes is some kind of elitist "I'm richer and better then you so this does not matter to me" type of responses. Man its sad to see him shill for a corporation this much to the point his past self would have clowned on him lol. Thank goodness I have had no need to buy a console since the PS4 as PC gets Xbox games, PS games, emulated games of all older consoles and everything else that comes slong with PC gaming. If a person wants to be ignorant about gaming hardware and just buy the most expensive plug and play machine, I have no problem with that (people can do what they want with their money). What I don't get is the need to trash the most modular gaming platform in the world because your favorite corporation, wants to be greedy and release the same console without a disk drive for even more money lol. If Griffin defends this position in another video he is digging an early grave for his YT career, and if he flippantly changes his mind he is a flip-flopper who buckled under someone exposing the hypocrisy of his statements. Man youtube commentators love to expose themselves lol.
PC gaming isn't about having the top of the line most powerful rig so GG poor shaming people for not having the top tier hardware is strange and loser like behavior. I could've bought a 3090 but it's was overkill so I got a 3080 ti. My friend built a PC that edges over the consoles. You don't need bleeding edge gpus to play a lot of games.
Correct and not only to mention that gpus like a 3090 and a 4090 outside from being the fastest gpus of their generation they have other use cases so the 3080 ti/4080/4080 Super is more than enough for this and this gpus are used for more than just gaming because only using it for gaming so you are not fully utilizing its capabilities for consumer grade workloads like AI/3D rendering/video editing/graphic design and so this is what this gpus were meant for since the beginning despite them marketed primarily as the fastest gpus so you did good and you didn't waste your money for gpu capabilities that you are not gonna use anyway its funny how people are coping this thing.
ps4 discs where just licences check or the bd reader would wear out like 2 ps3 on my i bet the ps5 is the same and ps3 and 4 where real close the cps only a small size the ps 5 over the ps4 was more of an up grade and no the games now suck dark-tides the newest old style game i found the ps5 uses liquid metal it runs when it gets warm zen2 likes to get warm that stands to make your ps5 fail and they dont gotta honor the warranty gta6 is gonna be 30 fps with all the i candy my pc is a zen 3 and rdna2 ps5 is the low iq brother of it. i was Sony till ps4 because that sucks. and toyota SHOULENT HAVE STOPED MAKING THE MR2 AN CELICA(4wd). id go with pc ive build 3 pcs sincethe ps4 gen and the first one still works right. also ELDENRING WAS THE GAME OF THE GENERATION
Can’t wait to spend $900 on the ps5 pro to render Arthur Morgan’s ballsacks at 4k 30fps
Yeah I mean what else are you going do with it play games lol
Rdr2 still being 30fps on ps5 and series x is a crime
Can't wait to spend $1000 on Aloy's hecking peachfuzz!!
You mean 865p upsvaled to 4K 30fps lol
Ps5 pro stole you guys girlfriends.
PS5 pro be like: added 4 pixels to the player's armpit
Griffin is one of those guys that says they play PC but simps for consoles
His pc isn't the best it needs a new CPU
What's the difference? Your all playing the same garbage games
@@GavinTownsley Or 60fps on higher graphics mode like who cares
Where's your citation that he simps for consoles?
Griffin gaming tends to have a lot of bad opinions
his opinions are a mixed bag tbh
@@sneakycacti sometimes its alright, but he always ends up calling people he disagrees with brokies. Remember the rtx 4090 fiasco 😆
@@adk4986just to admit later that he have no idea of pc components
@@akeemnereida6119 exactly
@@adk4986 Wait what happened there with the 4090?
what griffin doesn't understand is that sony are trying to push the goal post so that people think $800 is "acceptable" for a console when it isn't, a console of all things should not cost near $1k even if its the pro model
Exactly and it's supposed to be the "more accessible, cheaper" market compared to pc. But that seems to be less of a thing with each generation.
Also, as of lately, I can't really advocate for how the PC market is doing business for modern gaming either, because a lot of newer games force you into hardware upgrades via bad performance that was only optimized for a quantum supercomputer/nasa PC.
especially when its going to rely on upscaling and frame gen to crutch on, it does not feel good to play with frame gen on and upscaling can have a large list of visual problems
Once again we're shown that Sony people are the new Apple kids.
Every single PlayStation console before all came with a disk drive.
Yeah remember when Xbox wanted to do drm, always online, share your library with up to 10 friends and all that. That meant your games being scanned and being basically digital. Sony came out with the opposite because fans hated it. Now years later and more and more those things are happening. Fanboys think these companies care about them lol. They want digital because they know we don’t own the games. Even Europe is trying to force these companies to say buying a digital copy doesn’t mean ownership.
1 didn't, 2 was optional and very rare for the time. How many people were playing Socom or RE online on ps2??
My """"hot take""""": the PS5 pro was completely unneeded in the first place, the normal PS5 is plenty powerful enough. If studios actually gave their devs time to optimize they're games everything would run at 4k 60 no problem, the push for ray tracing in everything has ruined a lot of games through sheer performance issues alone.
This
Honestly, game devs are trying so hard to make "pretty" games they forget that 90% of the playerbase doesnt have the rigs they are building the games on. For american game devs(dont know about other countries) the company running it can afford to make top of the line rigs for all their coding and playtesting computers because its all ✨️tax deductable✨️ but most people dont have that luxury
No its like a 2070 super rtx that cant run 4k 60fps 😂 even a 4070 super cant run 4k at stable 60
@@smokegames1179 who cares about 4K? Consoles don’t give you 4K they give you a fake upscaled 4K
@@sneakycacti and thats the case for mid tier gpus too that cost $600 a 4070 super for $600 cant do native 4k wtihout dlss which is fake 4k aswell thats my point
We are talking about the same guy that poor shame other's because they didn't have enough money to purchase a RTX 4090, the same guy that admit that he have no idea of pc components and just buy the most expensive parts, this guy is like the Sony ponies.
And He have a video in the past advicing if a console price is 800$ just buy a pc.
They could've included the disc drive at least.
id view it more positively if they did
@@sneakycactiSame
Or at least the fucking stand.
He isn't Griffin Gaming anymore, he is Grifter Gaming.
He's always been that way, like many others.
Griffin's elitist "I'm not gonna be a pleb" attitude is laughable
did dreamcastguy kidnap him I wonder
he folllowed dsp's footsteps
700 for a console with no disc drive? No thanks
Thats the same case on every pc that was bought since 2015 😂😂
PC still have disc drives, nice try though.@@smokegames1179
Once upon a time, Griffin declared the epic games store bad for PC gaming. He even ripped apart a fanboy who lashed out at him for doing so.
I guess it’s true what they say, you either die a hero, or you live to see yourself become the shill.
Based gamer: "This plastic box is overpriced and you would rather spend your money building a PC. The PS5 Pro is not worth buying and that is my honest opinion"
Griffin Gaming: "pfft how dare you talk about this plastic box with paywalls I simp hard for. Maybe youre poor if you can't shell out over near 800 to 900 for it. Now excuse me as I go ask my rich parents to get me more stuff, PLEBES!!!!"
Bro exposed griffin's entire career 💀💀
Frit made a perfect analogy where he had Griffin's face over that of Nick Fuentes ranting about poor people. It just worked
The slop thickens
I can’t believe Griffin thinks a 3070 is trash. Money has genuinely rotted his brain
The Griffin Gaming falloff needs to be studied
he became grifter gaming
Damn... I used to see Griffin Gaming as the leafyishere of console fanboy's that he would make fun of console fanboy's and even fanboy's to video games..
Back when I first discover him from the epic games store controversy but since now he basically became what he swear to destroy since he is a console fanboy
Like I think it is funny and sad of him defending a very overpriced gaming console that basically will cost you about $1000 lmao.. 😂
$1k to play astrobot. What a great console
@@shambleshef yup just to play a slop game that could run perfect on pc. what a waste of money
It really feels like Griffin became a pony, but is too ashamed to admit it
I was actually one of the people that held off on buying the PS5 because I thought the Pro would have a reasonable price and I've just been stuck with Switch since 2019. I'm just thinking about getting a PC and VR now.
You won't regret going PC, looking at the way console gaming is going.
@@kurtisdeakin I had a kind of low-end laptop, but the charger stopped working and I haven't used it in like 2-3 years. Somehow, I still didn't have Steam though.
Yeah, for real. The PS4 pro launched at the same price as the base PS4, but here we are in 2024 and the PS5 is still like 500$ and the pro is 700$.
It is a border line scam because you said you can't play your games because they're physical. You can buy the drive but the console is technically incomplete as you say.
I think Griffin get high on some shit for streaming, he literally cannot understand the points mutahar makes.
Griffin used to be so much more real, but he let all that money totally go to his head.
He saw how much more money he would make pandering to the PlayStation fanboys audience.
I completely forgot griffin even existed
Griffin gaming seems really classist
Griffin gaming? More like grifting gaming.
12:58 I'm sorry, but $80/year?! Not even NINTENDO'S Online Subscription is that expensive! It's at least $20/year!
All games on pc can be free if you wanted, emulator are free, internet is free, game is cheaper. console is always and always more expensive AFTERWARD. Pc is expensive first hand and harder to entry due to knowledge required
window 10 there is a command and free server to fully get update and full support from MS. The watermark is not even a problem
people said cp2077 will be the game of the generation and it flopped, feel like gta6 will suffer the same fate
Cp2077 is a good game now. If it launched at the state it is in right now it wouldve been more successful
I have a feeling that GTA 6 will do good numbers, but wont match or outsell GTA 5 numbers and people will continue playing GTA Online on 5 instead. Basically RDR2 situation.
@@raikenninja4843 RDR2 isn’t doing as good as gta cause most people prefer playing in a more modern setting and GTA is a more iconic IP
cp2077 didnt really flop. it had a very shitty launch but ppl say its good now
@@notnoaintno5134It flopped hard on launch, don’t pull a revisionism
Literally just got a $700 PC. Can run everything I throw at it at 4K with at least high settings at a playable framerate, or turn the res down when I’m not plugged into the TV and have the framerate tick even higher. And I don’t have to worry about Microsoft or Sony taking away the games I bought anymore, or them preventing me from buying a game ever again. It’s not as convenient for gaming as consoles used to be, but modern consoles aren’t as convenient as consoles used to be, either, and as you said, there’s *a lot* more you can do with a PC than a console anyway. Coming from someone who was a lifelong console guy, this generation really is just a long, expensive advertisement for PC gaming. :/
What are your specs
Shit where did you get your pc I want to get it since my 500$ gave me the blue screen of death and I can't fix it and youtube is of no help
Laptop with Ryzen 7 7735HS, RX 7700s and 16GB DDR5. It retails for $1100, but Best Buy has it on sale for hundreds off pretty much every other week. I’ve seen it go as low as $675, but the thing’s a little beast. Well worth it if you want a lappy.
@@mss490 that's awesome bro, I'll definitely check it out
In the future console gamers will have to put together console like pc players have to
Ps 5 and series x was marketed to be leap into 60-120fps but within 2 years we already were back at 30fps with minor upgrade in how games look... i dont get why they try to still push graphics when we dont need it at this point anymore we need games that run well 😬
The advertisement: Run games in 60fps and over 1080p
The truth: Run games in 30fps, at 1080p.
Yep, we've hit a bell curve with modern gaming.
@@shambleshef i worse case its scaled 1080p 😬
Ugh. That's that gpu mafia technology
@@shambleshef 🤣
Console fanboys take their love for their console too personally that it makes them believe that the said console manufacturer are basically Gods! Remember when Griffin Gaming called out PlayStation fanboys? He's fallen into the minds of PlayStation fanboys 😂...
Bro didn't actually make the perfect comparison with Apple lol. The last 3 or 4 generations of Apple phones have basically been the smallest upgrades. Playstation is kinda the Apple of gaming right now.
What's hilarious about all this, was that if im not mistaken, Griffin was an Xbox fanboy up until Microsoft "screwed him" with the Xbox One X.
Then he became a PC refugee, and then got roasted for being an Nvidia fanboy justifying i think the 3090 expensive cost and calling people brokies
Now all of a sudden he's defending the PS5 Pro and has been more pro-playstation despite his past as a xbox fanboy as well as his pseudo-PCMR grift
Dude is just grifting it up. Grifting all over the place like does he even play games any more? All he does now is react and grift to right wingers, may of whom aren't even gamers they just boucne from one echo chamber to another. He also joined that grift like AndyPants, like Endymion, and the others with mid-below mid channels who need to grown an audience
1:55 Don't give them ideas sneaky....Ps6 will now charge a monthly subscription just to power on!
This a huge L take from griffin I've recently gotten into pc gaming cause of the ps5 pro
griffin is a known pony, it is normal. he doesnt know that ps5 pro is literally the same, they dont even upgrade CPU which zen 2 cpu is slow ass and 100% wont be able to run GTA 6 30 fps consistency, let's alone 60 fps. Also Sony talks about more computes unit but not performance, because they know performance prob only few % more on higher resolution
Also ps4 to ps5 is massive upgrade in CPU and SSD. SSD run game much much faster compare to slow HDD and CPU at least for that time 2019 is a massive upgrade over ps4 pro slow cpu which 100% cant run game 60 fps which the ps5 can. If you know anything about pc tech you would know this knowledge. Yes you can 100% tell ps4 and ps5 right away given they use hardware right. A ps4 game will 100% load in 5 minute where a ps5 game will load in 20s even less.
My SSD ps4 can load most of its games in 5-15 seconds. So that was not a buy motivator for me. I remember thinking base ps5 was overpriced as well so I went with pc cause I could get more bang for my buck. Hell, console generations don't even last 10 years anymore despite the ridiculous hardware prices.
Lo and behold, a couple years after that and the ps5 is even worse in terms of price-value ratio.
@@shambleshef I am talking stock, even so the ps5 is also a massive upgrade for cpu. your ps4 game cant run any game at 60 fps due to slow Cpu unless the game downgrade your res but it is totally up to dev, on pc it doesnt happen as you can choose any resolution which is why PC is superiror
People saying ps4 to ps5 is not a good upgrade which is not true. Not only it has better cpu, gpu and SSD gen 4 which you can totally buy a gen 4 ssd for dust cheap and upgrade ps5 even more.
In general, 60 fps is the least you go for , I cant even play 60fps on pc, cuz it is vomit.
Interesting, I did not know the 5 had a decent cpu in it. Makes sense for people who are console only I guess. I'd still rather put that ps5 money towards a PC though
@@shambleshef watch even Phil spen the xbox head guy said xbox one x problem is the cpu, that is why even the Gpu was upgrade over xbox one , it couldn't run game at 60 fps
And the ps4 also isn't a good upgrade over ps4 due to same slow ass hdd and cpu. This ps5/xbox series gen is the leap and now samething happens to ps5 pro with 0 improvement. not sure if xbox series has pro version
@@stringdoll50 They kinda do, the xbox series S and X. They could still make a mid-lifespan upgrade a la sony "pro" console though
I’m buying it because I’m done with the 9th generation of gaming after it ends anyway.
I've seen so many people talk about this, but it never gets old. The takes I hate the most is when he says "The least amount you should spend on a PC is $1800" and "I pay for windows because I'm not a disgusting broke plebeian" First of all, for the same price that the PS5 PRO is for American ($699), you can get an RTX 2050 gaming laptop Canadian, which means you actually get it for less in American money! This laptop comes with windows activated. But I guess I'm just a disgusting broke plebeian if I get this laptop that has ray-tracing and does way more than the PS5 PRO for way less (like around $500 American).
there is a 2050???? I thought the lowest for 20 series was 2060
@@sneakycacti I might've made a mistake, my bad. I saw this Asus gaming laptop in my local best buy and it might've been a typo. The description listed an RTX 2050 and 8 gigs of DDR5 ram. I think it was on sale but it could've been an RTX 2060.
Nope, just checked, the RTX 2050 exists and it was the one in this laptop.
@@sneakycacti RTX 2050 is a mobile only GPU. It is in fact an RTX 3050 with cut down memory bus.
and there exists RTX 3050/4050 laptops for 799$ with gen 13/14 intel gen, 1TB SSD, 16/32GB Ram, 17 Zoll screen and 1920 x 1080.
Laptops got crazy good for cheap.
One of the unexpected Things i heard about his Take is the Windows Key... That's really a first lol.
Can the ps5 pro play tf2 no it cant ok pc wins bye bye
personally every time i see that activate windows watermark i just think its funny
I mean ps 4 and 3 are goated consoles I still play ps 4 and not just pc ps 5 is expensive I would just settle for ps4 I made a ton of memories on ps 4 and 3
Honestly, the peak of video game graphics for me is the Xbox 360 and PS3
PS4 was awful.
A gaming PC with below a PS5 or ps6 out of the water if you have the money for it and a gaming PC can play any video games
Grifting-Gaming
gotta love how desperate griffin sounds in that stream
"he became the very thing he swore to destroy"
I'm so glad that my job makes PC gaming so easy, since I take apart PC, Laptops, and such. I wanted to get a $1200 PC, but decided to get something cheaper, as not to break my wallet. I can get keyboards and mice for free from my job, I have microphones, cameras, speakers, headsets, control peripherals for console, which I can buy adapters or find some at work to be able to use them on my PC. If saving money makes me a brokie, then I'm proud to be. Apparently Griffin never learn that PC gaming can be a expensive or as cheap as you want it to be. That's the beauty of the PC platform.
Also, bruh. Why did that common infected have to catch a stray like that? Homie was just minding his business. The Tank ain't have to do him like that.
Exactly. Griffen seems to not understand what value for money means. Since he is supposedly a business major, he should have known that.
@@smartphonefan5226 That's what makes it worse. Him having a degree in finance is the most baffling thing about all of this, when you'd think that would make him better with money and wanting to save as much as possible.
I don''t think Griffin understands the concept of value, and I also don't think he understands or cares about things like performance. The cost of something becomes king in his mind.
In many markets the budget and mid range tend to be where the most competition is found. It's also where you will often find the value per dollar at it's peak. So to a normal person the idea of spending about the same on a PC that you would on the PS5 pro and getting about the same perforrmance is not a strange idea. It won't get you top performance or anything, but if you shop around and maybe even look into some used parts you build a rig that meets or surpasses the PS5 pro and that can do much more. That's if you are looking at both on a value basis. Most people don't have infinite money or parents that will buy them anything they want so they tend to look at the actual value of things as much or more than the price itself because they want to prioritize what matters most to them for the money can are able or willing to spend.
Griffin on the other hand seems to see only the price and seems to think higher price always means better. So if he spent 5k on his PC, and somebody showed him how they got mostly the same performance if not the same or better on a rig half the price, Griffin would probably have a confused look on his face. Because not only does he only care about price, he may not even understand what any of the specs actually mean.
Combine this with brand loyalty and you have the ultimate "consoomer". He's the exact kind of person that corporations love. If Sony released a literal turd and priced it at 2k, he would go for it because it is the most expensive piece of shit ever and that makes it better for some reason. And if the Pro was released with the same specs but priced at 2k he would similarly defend it because in terms of consoles that would be the most epenssive console and therefore the best.
So on PC he looks at the price of a high end build and sees that as the base line. If a build costs less, it is worse. If a build costs 800 dollars or so it is trash. Even if the performance is meeting or exceeding the console he doesn't care becuase it was never about the performance to him, only how much he could flex his wallet.
PS. You can get a keyboard and mouse combo for 20 bucks that will work fine. I went years with just a logitech combo that worked fine for browsing and general usage. It probably wouldn't be great for FPS games though, but if those aren't your genre then I would focus more on getting a good controller. PC is not starved for good controller options either. I generally recommend the 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth controller, but for a more budget one I would recommend 8bitdo's Ultimate 2c controller. For 30 dollars that one has Hall effect sticks and triggers, and two extra buttons near the triggers. There are also other controllers about the same price that have hall effect sticks and the fact that even budget controllers are getting them makes one wonder how console manufacturers are getting away with not including them. Not even in their more expensive offerings.
I can find pre built pcs that are better than a ps5 pro. Thats just sad like i get prefering consoles if you prefer controllers. As were not at the point were we match make based off inputs rather than platform. The issue is were getting to the point were graphics are peaking and alot of games dont even benefit from the increase. Most cod players will never notice the difference in graphics from recent cod games. There really isn't much room for a big spec bump in modern consoles while still making it worth it to buy a console.
Ps5 pro vs Pc is a comparison of 700 vs 1200 bucks. Not even in the same price range so the comparison is bizarre.
Yes. It PS5 pro is a scam. Saved you from watching this
I can't wait for seeing the peach fuzz on a peach but for real with the graphics platoing it's definitely time for fps and gameplay focus since platoing graphics I don't give a f about the peach fuzz on the character
Almost 1k for no games, no stand, no drive, no backwards compatibility.
I miss when Sony Sisters just defended exclusives. Now that those exclusives are playable on PC, they have to pivot to shittier positions.
12:13 Hey look, it's the PfP of JordanCSNO! I miss that guy.
In my country ps5pro+disc drive+stand is like 1075$ and i guess u can get decent 1440p pc for that amount of money ;F
I recently built my friend a solid 2k gaming pc, all latest tech, for £1000. Could've gone cheaper, but he wanted all current year stuff in it. So yeah, you can get a solid rig for that money that would shame the pro.
dear god, if the name Icarus wasn't taken by a more loved content creator, I'd advice griffon to change his channel to that, cause man he fell hard. how did he get so out of touch?
I forgot about griffin gaming..
2:40 I don't know about that, bro... going back and playing my N64 with the expansion pak, I NEVER realized just how poorly games like Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, or Jet Force Gemini ran back then. Obviously, this is just an issue with the N64, and the rest of the consoles up to last gen tended to be good with what you wanted out of them.
Modern Women’s Logic: 22:50
This is the same guy who said $1500 isn't life changing money when talking about the 4090's price. Just a reminder.
Griffin doesn't seem to understand that the PS5 Pro, from a practical standpoint, is completely useless. There aren't going to be games that are made *just for* the Pro, and most game devs aren't going to go out of their way to optimize their games for the Pro, especially if those games are already out.
Not only that, but the argument that people will want to upgrade their consoles is completely bullshit, because not only is this thing more expensive than a base PS5 (which again, will still be able to play all of the current gen games just fine), the fact that it doesn't come with a disc drive OR a stand means that it's basically a fucking downgrade, because now you have a console that might not even be able to play half of the games you own, and can't stand up properly.
And, if your argument is that Sony wants people to buy this console if you don't own a PS5, then that argument can easily be deflected by the fact that almost everyone that wants a PS5 already has one. If they don't have one, they either own an Xbox, or a PC. Even if they don't have a PS5, most people are still probably just going to choose the cheaper console (AKA the base PS5) for cheaper, because again, it's still going to be able to play all the same games as the Pro.
"Poor people need to be destroyed. "
-Griffin Gaming in a few years.
the funny thing is
for the price their asking you can build pc that can emulate playstation games
here are a few notes you might find useful
-The PS5 SSD is just a placebo SSD because it might have faster load times but the thing is that is hard coded, so it will not matter if you have a faster pcie 5 ssd it will perform way worse compared to the one on the PS5 becasue Clowny designed it that way.
-based on PC benchmarks and the fact that Alan Wake 2 runs at 864p 60 on the PS5 Pro. its main specs would be a Ryzen 7 3700X and a 16GBs RX 6700.
-Since griffin got his 3090 he has been brain rotting and has been calling poor to anyone who dares to not spend money on expensive hardware.
-This isnt the first time he tried to call out somebody for complaining about an obvious rip-off, when "Jayz 2 cents" didnt recommend to buy the 4090 he called him "broke".
-one of the biggest selling points on PC Gaming is hardware flexibility, unlike what Griffin thinks you dont need a 4090 to be a PC gamer.
-Even if you arent a content creator you could need to do video editing/coding for a project or just fun, PC Gaming is also about multitasking.
-other than some Personalization features and the watermark (both have workarounds) the windows key is rather useless because you still get updates and you can stilll use its services like GamePass
-You can get cheap kbs/mouses that could last for years, or entry level mechanical kbs and mouses from well-known brands
-You could even reduce Mutahar's build price considering he went for an Nvidia GPU (arguably expensiver), the PS5 Pro iGPU its an RDNA1/2 iGPU so a mid tier b550, a 5700g/x/5800x3d and either the 7600xt or 6750xt will already be faster than a ps5 pro for probably a bit more
-"its only 1600 dollars, its not a life changing amount of money"
15:23 i remember getting a free TV with my console purchase as well
ps5 pro upgrades:
limited fps to below 60 for cinematic effect
added new in game advertising
Griffin seems to be the type of person who'd poor shame you if you brought something used or on sale to save money.
Correction, the stand was optional for the PS4 Pro too (and PS4, and PS3, and PS2). And you definitely needed a stand to keep it vertical.
Damn mb, PS4 looked good vertical ps3 not so much
18:21 wtf you can emulate on consoles
How the mighty have fallen...
A PC that costs $400 has more value than a console.
Nice Joe Budden clip.
Btw hi Sneaky
yo
Grifting Gaming is talking about PC specs. And guess what, the guy didn’t even build his OWN PC. Once he started poor shaming people, instant unsubscribe.
There isn’t anything inherently wrong not wanting to build a pc, not everyone wants to do that.
I don’t like Griffin but why does it bother you he didn’t build a pc?
@ it bothers me BECAUSE he was the pushing for his viewers to build their own PCs as he would make fun of people who didn’t
As a PS5 player I ain't buying the pro
Griffins takes are very mixed honestly.
I simply prefer consoles because of the convenience and the controllers. And Nintendo games. I also like the portability of handhelds like the Switch & 3DS.
You can use controllers on PC
@@gamingguy9006 Controllers aren't bundled with the PCs.
@@Disconnect42 yes and?
If youve owned even a single console in your lifetime you can now use that controller on your pc
I get that if you play multiplayer games as where not at the point were we match make based off input. But hopefully in the future that will be a possibility.
Switch is pretty nice and offers physical media
Griffin the past recent months has been spewing stupid takes dude. Before he was actually reasonable and honest. Now I don’t know. I’ve unsubscribed from him.
I want someone to make a video of them reacting to your reaction of griffin gaming's reaction to some ordinary gamers opinion on the ps5 pro and them someone else react to that video where they react to their reaction of your reaction of griffin gaming's reaction of some ordinary gamers reaction of the ps5 pro.
Thought the whole point of consoles were to be cheaper
The PS5 Pro being 900$ is dumb. Be real
Just noticed u changed ur description
Griffin Gaming is so way out of touch with this that it isn't funny. He didn't need to call him out that harshly for what he said. Newsflash Griffin, HE WAS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!. No disc drive, no stand, STILL no backwards compatibility beyond the PS4 which you WOULD expect from a Pro refresh, and they want to charge us in Australia over $1000? GET REAL SONY!!!!!
I pre ordered it. At first I was thinking to go to pc like so many are saying, but I realized that pc is much more expensive. So, the pro it will be.
If i pay 700 dollars for a pro model i should play GTA 6 at 60 fps but the game really doesn't matter for 30 fps because autolock exist. I play GTA sa with 30 fps because its the only way to play those games but, even after saying that, i still think 60 fps SHOULD be the standard now a days and since the pro model doesn't have. GTA 30, who cares but since most of the games that are coming out on ps5 are action games where 60 fps is NEEDED is what the issue is. WHY release a resfresh and don't BROTHER upgrading the cpu to a newer one???????????????????????? or at least to ryzen 5000 series one instead of still using 3000 series/weaker one. Makes this so pointless
"guy doesnt hate something enough"
can youtubers pick better things to make videos about?
I have all gaming platforms. Including PC. Every PC only content creator & PC only person commenting in the videos they make trying to compare a $700 PC to PS5 Pro. All of those videos that I've seen. Have not actually built a PC that is actually "equivalent" to the PS5. They cut a LOT of corners just to try to get the cost of the build down to $700. Making the build even further away from actually being equivalent.
To be equivalent to PS5 Pro. The PC needs to have:
•Wifi 7 motherboard
•Hardware AI ML Upscaling
(which disqualifies AMD GPU's)
•enhanced level of Ray Tracing
(PS5 Pro has RDNA 4 RT. Which isn't available in any current AMD GPU on the market. So the better solution is Nvidia again).
•16 GB GDDR6 RAM
•2TB PCIe 4x4 SSD at 7GB read
(To bee comparable to the custom 7 lanes flash controller the PS5 SSD has).
•Dualsense Controller (because the PS5 offers this which also adds other features such as haptic feedback & adaptive triggers, accelerometer etc)
As well as the cost of:
•a case
•CPU
•PSU
Etc
Also, over 80% of games bought on Playstation platform are digital (4 out 5 gamers are buying digital & have not even used their disc drive once). So the use of the disc drive is now niche. Also gaming PC's don't even come with disc drives and no one puts them in their builds. Also the vertical stand is only am accessory. The PS5 can stand vertically on it's own. The actual rain the stand was included with the OG PS5 is actually to lay it horizontally because it would otherwise wobble. They just added the feature of being able to also use it for vertical.
Not just this, but the technical specs haven't even been confirmed yet, but already people are crowing about how much more powerful it is than any PC of similar price. Based on nothing but corpos hardsell talk, vague percentage promises, and copium lol (remember when ps5 was promised to be 4k @60fps? Remember how well that went? lol)
Every new console, we see the same lies and overhyped bullsh*t vomited out, and fanboys eat it up and re-sh*t it back out all over the forums. They've not even got exclusives anymore! Just a handful of timed exclusives as more and more go day&date.
I saw one video crowing that on Amazon US, it's the top selling console atm and top of the Playstation category.... No shit! It's the only "new" console to be released at the moment and with no competetion! It's competing against nothing!! ffs how dumb you gotta be?!
Griffin gaming is an absolute joke. The ps5 pro is one days pay for some. get a better job
I use to watch Griffin a little bit because at one point I believed he had level headed takes on gaming (even if I disagreed sometimes) and he had a weird dead pan kind of humor to go along with it (probably his bored sounding monotone voice). However, now I don't know what to think about him because his more recent takes on every argument he makes is some kind of elitist "I'm richer and better then you so this does not matter to me" type of responses.
Man its sad to see him shill for a corporation this much to the point his past self would have clowned on him lol. Thank goodness I have had no need to buy a console since the PS4 as PC gets Xbox games, PS games, emulated games of all older consoles and everything else that comes slong with PC gaming. If a person wants to be ignorant about gaming hardware and just buy the most expensive plug and play machine, I have no problem with that (people can do what they want with their money). What I don't get is the need to trash the most modular gaming platform in the world because your favorite corporation, wants to be greedy and release the same console without a disk drive for even more money lol.
If Griffin defends this position in another video he is digging an early grave for his YT career, and if he flippantly changes his mind he is a flip-flopper who buckled under someone exposing the hypocrisy of his statements.
Man youtube commentators love to expose themselves lol.
You can play geomatry dash on pc
Thats why pc is better 🗣
unreal engine taking over gaming industry and the world
PC gaming isn't about having the top of the line most powerful rig so GG poor shaming people for not having the top tier hardware is strange and loser like behavior. I could've bought a 3090 but it's was overkill so I got a 3080 ti. My friend built a PC that edges over the consoles. You don't need bleeding edge gpus to play a lot of games.
Correct and not only to mention that gpus like a 3090 and a 4090 outside from being the fastest gpus of their generation they have other use cases so the 3080 ti/4080/4080 Super is more than enough for this and this gpus are used for more than just gaming because only using it for gaming so you are not fully utilizing its capabilities for consumer grade workloads like AI/3D rendering/video editing/graphic design and so this is what this gpus were meant for since the beginning despite them marketed primarily as the fastest gpus so you did good and you didn't waste your money for gpu capabilities that you are not gonna use anyway its funny how people are coping this thing.
I like Griffin's game reviews but his take is dogwater for me
ps4 discs where just licences check or the bd reader would wear out like 2 ps3 on my i bet the ps5 is the same and ps3 and 4 where real close the cps only a small size the ps 5 over the ps4 was more of an up grade and no the games now suck dark-tides the newest old style game i found the ps5 uses liquid metal it runs when it gets warm zen2 likes to get warm that stands to make your ps5 fail and they dont gotta honor the warranty gta6 is gonna be 30 fps with all the i candy my pc is a zen 3 and rdna2 ps5 is the low iq brother of it. i was Sony till ps4 because that sucks. and toyota SHOULENT HAVE STOPED MAKING THE MR2 AN CELICA(4wd). id go with pc ive build 3 pcs sincethe ps4 gen and the first one still works right. also ELDENRING WAS THE GAME OF THE GENERATION
So basically pc games died and you have to show left4dead
Glad I unsubed Griefting gaming a year ago, each video he gets more arrogant
I have a pc but I stll play on console because in my opinion I like consoles better.