Small, Electric, Traffic Beating Vehicles For Every Occasion!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- When unconstrained by an engine, mobility can get a lot more flexible, opening up the opportunity to make a huge array of various things that get people from A-B. That's certainly what Vancouver based ENVO believes and they are exploring a whole host of different electric mobility options, from bikes, trikes, snow bikes, ATVS, water based things, you name it! But surely it doesn't make sense to make such niche electric mobility products?! We went to visit the team in Canada to find out more and to see just how much you can do with a simple battery and small electric motor.
00:00 Intro
01:10 What does ENVO do?
01:32 "You ask, we deliver"
02:18 Conversion kit
03:11 Flex overland foldable bike
04:20 Design
05:11 All terrain vehicle
05:51 Filling the gap in the market
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What 'niche' electric vehicle are you asking for??!
i want a sans permis analogue in nova scotia for an enclosed quad, like the old citicar. expanding our limited speed motorcycle license to encompass small cars might work, max speed 72kph up to 100cc, would be just about perfect for mobility everywhere.
human powered with electric or fuel assist trikes aren't legal on our roads and the max speed is 30, quad is fine though, without some way of software relocking to drop it to legal speeds, it's not possible to buy the product you've displayed and legally use them on the road here. last time i looked the ONLY provinces in canada that allowed power assist bikes without a license were nova scotia and quebec, meaning everywhere else they need a moped licence, insurance, inspection, tags and plates, all the same stuff they need for a proper motorcycle, how are they getting away with it in bc? have there been changes?
@@felderup What we really need in all countries is dropping licensing and registration requirements for everything under, say, 100 kgs and 40 kph, but that's never going to happen, because we are ruled by greedy, stupid politicians.
@@felderup the UPT at the end.
@@thekaxmax the thing with tires probably not street legal? however, i want something i can license in the limited speed category.
@@felderup The 1-seat microcar version could be street legal, depending on where you are. But they are into generating solutions, talk to them.
"Illegal in the UK". Time for the UK to sort itself out. We allow multi tonne SUV's but say electric bikes are too dangerous.
Quite frankly, it’s becoming a bit embarrassing.
This company absolutely doesn't cater for me. That's why I have a multi ton EV! ...which is even heavier than the diesel vehicle it replaced. I need to travel up to 200 miles a day with tools and materials.
When you get your dream of everyone in/on a micro EV don't expect any help from trades when your roof starts leaking, your plumbing and electric fail.
Trades need to have allowances or the customer will have to pay the extra premium.
@@beepthesheep867 I’m sure we all understand and agree with your first paragraph, but you kinda went a bit overboard at the start of the second paragraph there.
@@beepthesheep867nobody has ever said we shouldn't have heavy vehicles on the road, only that we shouldn't be using them to move your singular fat arse from home to work.
This is a weird take if I'm honest.
@DJB01 I'm understandably disgruntled. There's an agenda to ultimately ban all cars. I haven't seen anything anywhere that says EVs will be exempt from this and we know there aren't enough raw materials extracted in 10 years to replace just the vehicle in just the UK with BEVs. I did my research and made the shift to an EV and so did my gf. Don't get me wrong, I love my EV, but I'm also aware of all the negative aspects to driving one too.
These micro EVs are not suitable for the majority of the UK. That accounts for why 44 million vehicles are on the UK roads. I showed my gf that these micro EVs would be the way she'll be expected to commute to work. She raised her eyebrows, which said it all. She could manage with a micro EV but only 3 days per week. She'd still need her current small EV which was purchased to suit her exact requirements.
I currently have a huge issue with kids on electric scooters terrorising the local supermarket car park, which they use for a meet up. There needs to be legislation in place. That legislation needs to be tough and on a par to riding a moped. Registration, insurance, MOT, indicators, helmets, licence, points, parking, the works.The police shouldn't be turning a blind eye. What is illegal is illegal and there's no excuse.
I've seen the accident injury and death report in relation to electric scooters and proportionately, fair worse than cars!
You can not combat that fact with flippant comments about the UK being behind without understanding the justification for that!
Blummin' love the "... or even if you just have really achey legs you can simply step through ..." - me, me, me! Having done a cycle tour for several weeks in France last year, I really would have loved a step through bike! Cocking your leg over a normal bike saddle, avoiding panniers etc gets harder as the days go by
We are so backward in the UK on micromobility. Smaller, lighter, lower powered and more flexible solutions are illegal here. It’s mental.
Good to see new innovations
3:44 I'm not much for E-Bikes, BUT I agree about step thrus. I purchased my Trek Verve as a low step because, as I get older I might not be crazy about swinging my leg over a step over bike.
Hats off to all the ideas that they are bringing to life.
Its like having different glass for different wines and different knifes for different food.
I would like Envo to have Joint Venture in countries like INDIA, (we can't afford to have all CA$ is very costly) so that it can be useful for specific types of applications.
Imogen is such a delightful lady. Thank you for your educational & cheerful presentations.
These video updates on the latest electric tech are great thanks Imogen
Love to see some of these here in the UK. Great video
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.
Brilliant. You look to be having so much fun.
Thank you
Excellent - this company really gets it.
This is a bike version of my Twizy, love it!
Wow. I love every one of these! I would love to buy several.
Great company. Good video! I love it!
Easy in Canada. In the southern US... you need A/C. Even the option of pedaling sounds good, but can't do it in the heat unless you are purely doing it for sports and are planning a shower after.
Really love this concept and would love to see more micro vehicles like these and the Carver at Fully Charged events.
Btw, with the micro truck/four wheeler ideas could you please add something to prevent people being trapped during rollovers? I know Australia has been tightening safety standards to ensure manufacturers include that in their designs due to four wheel bike deaths on farms etc. Some of the safety designs have a pole or a giant circle on the back which you seemed to be missing in the designs shown.
Very cool stuff
I like the all purpose micro truck.
Hi Imogen. Love your work 👍
Looks super safe.
do they have ergative breaking?
I like the potential of using the quad in forestry setting's for carrying large log's for wood carving,if envo wants our voluntary organisation to test one out for a new experimental purposes,they can send our organisation one for free, to put it through some rigorous forestry test's,we would be happy to do this and give continuouse feedback
Amazing
Great to see. However at 69 I prefer my bicycles... Touring for shopping, race for speed, gravel for cross country, folding for multi mode. All keep me fit. Less is more.
Very very interesting
Conversion kit is the immediate game changer.
I need one of it
This is cool
I think the VeeMo is an interesting development and consistent with other products out there doing similar things. I would not drive it on a road with traffic however, and I guess it maybe too big for some bike trails. It would have practical uses in certain specific situations though. So, there is that. If everyone was using them on the road then thats different proposition, as I would not feel so vulnerable if I were the only one. Just my personal opinion. It’s very niche IMO, and is a great idea waiting for the right alignment to occur. 👍
Love all your innovations,....just make one that is all weather ready. One that can manage winters in Ohio, in the USA. We get snow and ice, & slush. With Global warming, Ohio's winters, are sometimes less harsh,....but you can't depend on it. Cleveland, Ohio where I was born, the winters are the harshest, however I moved to central Ohio, which is more south, and we have milder winters. But you can't rule out an occasional rogue winter, with snow, ice, sleet, and you need to be warm and safe.
sweet - would love more info about the white trike in the header (heard it was a bankruptcy buyout ??? )
How is it on those snowy commutes? That would be part of the "every occasion".
That trike would be perfect for 2 months of the year. I wonder what its like in horizontal rain/snow and howling gale
we need that in Manila
So pretty. The bike is nice too
It's a perfect transition possibility (like a missing link🙃) to electric cars. Even for each disabled person there there is a very customized solution. 👍 Do you sell it to Europe?
Hi,
What a happy & warm feeling I have received with such innovative news. What a very interesting design studio concept, building products to serve the community & based within one of the greenest cities in the Canada. It would certainly vibe as a progressive business, if such studios began similar production processes in towns & villages, within England too.
I say this being a Londoner, aware of the catastrophe of financing my own business, under the autistic Conservative Government umbrella, from their acidic rain.
Love the modular design approach.
I once designed an off-road wheelchair for my handicapped sister. It was hydraulic as that seemed the best option at the time. It never made it off the page. I'd love to see a true off-road wheelchair that could hit narrow trails. Two wheels with a gyroscope?
search on Google Not-a-Wheelchair
Check out OutriderUSA with their Coyote 4WD. They used to and may still make fast trikes, but this is a off road go anywhere quad for people with various disabilities, or anyone
Very moving experience with this video ,
Badum, tssss!
@@zapfanzapfan have no idea what that means, is it some sort of slang?
@@kavanobrien6547 It's a phonetic representation of a rimshot.
@@kavanobrien6547 Obscurai got it right.
@@Obscurai rimshot ? One does tend to think I’ve been living on a different planet.
Chinese OEM 2, 3 or 4 wheel electric scooters are legal to drive on bike lanes in the Philippines. As long as they are speed limited to 25km/hr. You don’t even a drivers license and registration.
If I had me electric e-bikes it will be a stepter and it will be easy on my knees and legs right now I don't have the money to get one that's another story another time but this is a good video and I did like that one ebike where you carry just about anything you want on it even the passenger right now keep up the good work
Good luck at the Ironworkers Memorial Second Narrows Crossing and the Lions Gate Bridge during peak hours when it's windy.
Wow ❤
👍👍Electric trailers? Electric cargo carts?
We really need changes in legislation to make the micro EV more desirable and useful. A good payload and speed to be competitive with an urban van that is only 1/4 or 1/2 full, and financial 'carrots' to encourage take up. But also safer storage of them especially when they could be picked up and put in a van if left parked on the road overnight.
Yeah I couldn't see trusting the anti-theft to an alarm. You'd have to have a chain for the frame and the rear wheel to a rack.
What incredible vehicles! Only quibble is they seem to be making these from steel: why not glued Aluminium parts? Love the hub motors.
Why not carbon fibre options for those who can afford it? I'm all for diversity, even within the same product. I can get about five different types of cans of baked beans.
Carbon fiber is not viable for the directional torque electric motors will put on them. Carbon fiber has good strength in one direction and bad in another direction. You can pull it in the direction of its fibers just fine. Put force perpendicular to the fibers and it's brittle.
Carbon fiber is also pretty bad about recycling.
I can just imagine the water and dirt flinging off the tires after a rainy day for that all terrain vehicle
I hear you but I live in Tx where there are these things called F-250’s
I'm surprised there were no Electric Unicycles featured in this video. that's the ultimate micromobility device.
👍👍Yep... if you can get about without a car, then sell it🤷♂🤷♂ a good e-bike can do a lot, especially with a trailer. Home delivery, car share etc. can do the rest?
Living in Seattle, I'd love to see the Veemo that Imogen rode into the first scene down here. What's stopping them from setting up Veemo sharing here?
It doesn’t seem to be a pedal assist, so it might have to be registered and licensed as a motorcycle in WA.
It is pedal assisted@@cypvh74
I've always dreamed of having a small amphibious car, but maybe ENVO's platform could provide something more realistic and cheaper? Like maybe the Veemo with floats? [edit]: I just noticed the bike thing on floats on a second watch. Close, but I think I'd rather have that bubble roof!
You guys make the best videos that I always look forward to. You make me want to build my own car like that
What a fascinating PEV. With those power specs, thank you. You make the best videos that I always look forward to. 💪🏼👏🏼
As an American from the U.S.A. I'm singing "Oh, Canada, oh, Canada...
LEV's are great, if only we had infrastructure and regulations to support them.
"Gangster Granny" 😆
Ouch 1500 for that ekit?
I'm not sure what the conversion rate but a bafang bbs02 and large 25 amp hr battery cost me 1100 usd. If you're somewhere that limits the output I think the weak bbs01 was even cheaper
oh god i want all those cool mini transpo if only i have the money to but them T v T
When that big mertal box hits you, you may wish you had been in one - just before you shut your eyes forever!
Funny thing with modern EV's seem to be, that almost every car manufactur is only building an endless stream of 4-door saloons and 4-door SUV's.
Or, at the other end of the spectrum, electric bicycles, scooters and tricycles.
Where are all the 2-door model cars that we used to see on the streets?
The small hot hatches, the coupe's and the cabrio's that can do a, for an allround car, usable range of at least 300km?
In the Netherlands there are 8.3 million households in total, of which 3.3 million 1 person households and around 3 million 2 person households.
That is more than half the househlds has no need for a 4-door car.
Still, it is almost impossible to find a 2-door car that can be used as a daily driver to replace a normal ICE car.
For those families, 4 door cars are a total waste of materials and energy.
I agree with you but to be fair they've been making ice cars for over 100 years but really only been semi serious about EVs for about 5. It's just going to take time, especially when those bigger vehicles are the more profitable ones.
@@morosis82 Probably. Never understood why large and heavy behemoth of cars are more profitable. Maybe due to the more wealthy buyers that can afford to be ripped-off.? 😉
China is building lots of smaller economical EV's, so it can be done.
You seemed to lapse into Dutch there but, here in Aus, our houses are so small we can walk in them without needing a car, lol.
@@aussieideasman8498 a household in Dutch, is an other word for "family that lives under 1 roof') 🤣.
@@BMWHP2 Just segwaying into that joke I made. I hope people got the joke? I have a great admiration for the Dutch. My son speaks it fluently, and lived in Rotterdam for a year while he did his Masters. We visited when they had their second child there, and then we toured Europe and GB on a 20,000 km drive. You have the most advanced country in all of Europe, from what I could tell as a tourist, and I thoroughly enjoyed my time there.
Some very strange and unusual products.....❤❤ Imogen not always looking very comfortable with those😂😂
My KS - 16X EUC, weighs about 24 kg, top speed of 31 mph and gets over 50 miles on a single charge
Ok for playing in the park on a Summers afternoon. Try a UK cold, wet Monday morning Autumn commute, with lots of traffic. Sorry, a big metal box wins. That's why zero people buy the Twizy. Fun concept, not fun reality. (Guessing the company owner drives the Rivian? 😉)
There are fully enclosed, heated, micro EVs. Just because one product doesn’t suit you, doesn’t mean there are others that won’t.
@@oliverpolden It's a UK channel. It's a trinket for a handful of people. No one would seriously use it on UK roads. They value their lives.
@@TeaBreak. I live in the UK. Just because you wouldn’t use one, doesn’t mean others wouldn’t. I certainly would.
Great Elecrict cycle with all year covers. Problem with individual owned solution is they need to be parked but maybe only use 1 hr per day. A provision to rent en masse at lots of different location allows users to leave the bike for others to use. If we had proper clean Public Transport or Robo Taxis (Or human driven EV) at affordable costs then no need for individual platforms and storage when largely not in use!!
I love these envo products,but have a serious allergic reaction when I see the prices ! I live in Vancouver so for four season use I amsticking with my 17year old i.c.e. car.Maybe next year ? Also unsure of street legality issues.?
Unfortunately, economics comes into play. With more customers and competition, prices drop, but solo startups are always expensive. We need them, and we need rich people to get us past the hurdle.
That was a good commercial for one company's somewhat expensive products. £900 just to convert an old pedal bike to an electric bike! I want a new electric bike for that. I'll be lucky to find one but still, £900 for a conversion.
I would have loved if the Veemo had a 3-5kW motor paired with a 2-2,5kWh battery.
3-5kW motor would make it non-street legal, hence wount be able to use bike lanes, would require registration and insurance
@@far-course38 The problem is not with the idea; it's with the laws. Changing the laws by dropping them is the best solution, but our greedy and very stupid politicians will never do that. Nothing under 40 kph and 100 kgs should need a license or registration.
1500 for a rebadged conversation kit you can get for 500!!!
Some people like to pay for the convenience and knowing what they get is what they expected.
If they don't want to spend hours, days or weeks looking through 1000s of dodgy sellers on ebay and Chinese web sites, and researching reputations, video reviews, unboxings etc, then that is their choice.
I got my 2kW kit 8 years ago for £400 and made the batteries myself, and it still runs perfectly. Never been happier, though another kW or two would be nice.
Well I for one wanted to know more about the thing at 0:16
The Bike Bubble thing!
My region has just recently had problems with e-bike battery fires. Literally, thousands of people were told to remove all lithium-ion batteries from their buildings. My scooter and e-bike were tools I used daily but when it comes to renting and insurance companies dictating what tenants can do there is very little incentive to get anything powered by lithium-ion. I see problems on the horizon for these batteries
The problem with carbon fibre is that it is currently made from oil based polymers. I am concernd that carbon fibres have the same impact as GRP fibres on the marine environment. I think there is a role for carbon fibre as carbon '100'' which conducts electricity better than copper (rated at '80') is in future electric motor windings. The carbon needs to be grown as a crystal from carbon dioxide but this technology doesn't yet exist. Using Aluminium utilises a one seventh of the Earths's resourses so makes more sense. London taxis are already made like this.
Will UPT going to ride along with cars? Will it be "crash-worthy"?
I wonder how hard it would be to pass that ATV off as a beefy mobility scooter 🤔
I'm thinking of starting an electric-something brand just to be interviewed by Imogen ❤
..and I'd surely get Robert
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do they have a mobility solution for people in wheelchairs
Everything electric ready to make my idea 💡
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Nice ideas, in the UK we have Swytchbike kits that convert almost any bike but we are limited to 250w and 15.5 mph which is too low. If they increased it to say 35 mph and increased the wattage, small cargo ebikes / trikes would do well in towns and cities and keep traffic flowing I reckon. I wouldn't even mind a small fee (road tax) and annual safety inspection if the price was right. I only say that because the revenue they would lose vs cars would have to be made up in other ways and the current state of potholes in UK is shocking.
Very interesting, but I wonder about the safety of some of these vehicles. ATVs are already dangerous enough. I suppose with the Envo ATV the risk of being crushed when it rolls onto you is minimal.
The reason why you don't see things "in-between" a cargo bike/trike, and full-blown cars... is that they're basically illegal to operate. A 4-wheeled vehicle that isn't a literal mobility scooter is not allowed on Canadian roads or bike paths. A vehicle that goes above 25 (or 32) km/h is forbidden on public roads. If you want to create any 4-wheeled vehicle that isn't a mobility scooter (what we call LSVs, Low Speed Vehicles) you need to get it approved, inspected, plated and insured *as a car* which implies requirements like ABS brakes, assisted steering, traction control, seatbelts, and everything else a car legally requires.
There is no inbetween because Transport Canada's rules and regulations simply do not allow us to own and operate them. If they *did* allow for them, I'd just buy a Chang Li off aliexpress for $900 (+ shipping, taxes, import fees around $3000 in total) and ride that around like a glorified enclosed golf cart.
I love seeing new vehicles, weird and quirky things that look great and would be lovely to use... but you just *cannot* and that's the issue that needs to be addressed before we can move on to better micromobility and personal mobility devices.
I'd like it fully enclosed with a decent internal combustion engine
You're in the wrong movie. ICE are on their way out....get used to it.
I like many of these units but prices are still way to high .😢
People commuting, just themselves, two tonnes, two times a day, just a few miles is complete madness.
Letting you know in the comment below.
For every occasion?
Sure 600mile trip with two kayaks and domesticated wolf?!
Sure
I was so disappointed when Veemo redesigned their velomobile from being fully enclosed to being open. Fully enclosed small electric vehicles are so attractive to me living in the pacific northwest. That being said, this company is doing some very interesting things.
@1wuzgray325 I too fell in love with the fully enclosed Veemo. To me, it would be the closest thing to driving an actual car without the expensive maintenance or needing to insure it and no required driver's license. But that model was being used in a pilot vehicle sharing program in selected areas. I actually emailed the company and asked if they will ever offer it to individuals who wish to purchase one for themselves as private owners. The answer I got back was that they were considering it. But alas, we got this semi open model instead. Bummer.
Sinclair C5 was ahead of its time for building deathtraps. 😂
A truly awful creation, the Danish U36 that became the MiniEl was a far better machine, 30miles, at 30miles per hour, no peddling and full weather enclosure, it was designed as a moped or scooter replacement and could carry an adult and two young children, unfortunately the c5 killed anything electric in Britain for a generation.
I worked with the industrial designer Ray Innes on it as my first project with him in 1982, Stein Jensen approached Ray Innes to do the body and other design work while he concentrated on the mechanical and electrical side, the completed U36 was first exhibited in a Danish bank in Randers, where the first factory for them was built, I believe they are still made in Germany.
I don't want to have a crash in those. Instant death.
If they weren’t so expensive, I’d buy one.
I enjoy my eBike, but I’d LOVE to have a trike or a 4 wheel covered eBike, but the makers want to charge too much money for them
Basically its a pimped up mobility scooter. It might suit someone doing short journeys to the shops but for city use where would you park it without blocking the pavements or the local vandals stealing it of wrecking it.
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How much it costs for me i live in Kyrgyzstan Bishkek
EUC!
I would buy one if it was cheaper.
Watched at .75 playback to restore compression...
Most of these bikes can be found from Chinese suppliers.. except the Veemo