Just got my gs75 with the RTX 2060 and I love it so far plays everything at max setting above 70FPS which is good for me. $1799 on Amazon so not too bad of a deal.
Got mine the new series for 1 weeks! The GS75 10SGS! Totally beast and from the data you list, for several games it boost around 20%-ish more with 2080 Super Max Q + i9 10th series..
Hi Jarrod.. Could you please do a Video suggesting some of the best laptops in each price range category..? Eg - (2000-2500$ or 2500-3000$ etc..) Laptops Ranked from top to bottom .. based on the benchmarks, gaming and taking all the overall considerations.. Just a video suggestion.. I think a lot of viewers would want to watch that..!! Thanks and cheers.
@@myheadbro6214 it has facial recognition, i don't recommend it. Windows Bill Gates and Microsoft sell your data to the CIA for sure. Get a Zephyrus :D
Hey Jarrod, just wanted to say that your methodical approach to benchmarking and testing is very refreshing and much appreciated. Easiest Subscribe of my life.
@@andyblake8768 Very good, actually. It plays Skyrim VR max quality settings without breaking a sweat. Just make sure you are getting a model running dual channel memory mode unless you plan to upgrade the memory yourself. Iohrading RAM on this laptop is not as trivial as most and requires a very steady hand and careful disassembly. Also, you'll need a thunderbolt to display port adapter.
@@Qusai94 Tou need to undervolt the CPU a bit on some CPU intensive games (Assasins Creed Odessy, etc...) to prevent thermal throttling, but other than that, it's pretty great, actually. Never had any issues with my Oculus Rift S...
I got this laptop for work yesterday and can say I am very pleased with it. It does everything I need for work and it's a good sub for my desktop when I'm not home and got an itch to game.
I purchased this for my on the go design machine and a little bit of gaming too. So far my favorite laptop I have ever owned. It is a little loud and the cpu gets crazy hot but overall great laptop
At 13:33 I saw you tested Battlefield 5 with RTX on. I REALLY want to play this game with RTX. But I have a question that’s been in my mind for a while now. In the game, you can set the graphics to 1920x1080p Ultra settings. But there’s a separate setting which allows you to adjust the ray tracing quality. In your tests, did you change the quality of the ray tracing down to medium to get around 83.01 FPS? While having the rest set at ultra? I want to play the game at 1080p with a minimum of 60FPS with ultra graphics with the exception of ray tracing on at medium. And this of course would be with the RTX 2070 Max Q. I have a desktop MSI gaming PC with an intel core i7 6700 processor, 16gb of ram running in dual channel, and an MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6gb Armor Edition. I was wondering if this laptop with an RTX 2070 Max Q could out perform or match the performance of my desktop since it isn’t the newest on the market. I’m also in the 11th grade, and I use my surface pro 2017 a lot at school. So the larger battery life is the key part that really peaked my interest. I’m looking for a gaming laptop that has RTX graphics, but good battery life. And this seems to check all my needs off! Anyway, thanks for reading this super long comment and taking the time to answer my questions. I just want to make sure that this would be the right Choice for me.
All I do is enable DXR and leave everything default, I didn't go in and change any RTX specific settings. I will note that in my personal opinion, RTX off with ultra settings looks better than RTX on medium. It's hard to compare results as laptop hardware is cut down, and PC hardware has unlimited power limit and less thermal restrictions, but the laptop specs will certainly be able to play any game well. For laptops with big batteries and also good specs, look at the Eluktronics MAG-15/Gigabyte Aero 15.
No one read this but whatevs I have the previous series on this lineup (gs63, 15", i7 7gen, GTX 1060) i gotta say this is the best thing i get in a while, slim, capable to everything i throw at it and really light to carry around. The problem is that i need to lower my cpu clock while gaming because it will thermal throttle eventhough there are OC option in the command centre. Also the cpu fan start ringing like hell on the first year because theres a problem on the motor of the blade which are usual problem that owner face while having this laptop. TL:DR, slim laptop are fun to have but you need extra effort if you want the laptop to last long
You must know I reply to every new comment by now so of course I'll read it 😛 yeah that's a problem with most thin machines unfortunately, did undervolting help?
Been waiting on that for awhile now. Someone in my local area have the y540 i7-9750H-16G-RTX2060 for $1600 Cad. Looks like a pretty good deal to me come to buying new. I have to meet him today but would have been nice to see something about this device on TH-cam.
THANK YOU FOR DOING A BACKLIGHT BLEED TEST Such an underrated aspect of a laptop, also kind of ridiculous a 2500$ machine comes with big yellow circles on the display. As a graphic designer I try to make my work space as dark as possible for colour and edit accuracy, so backlight bleed is a giant no-go for me
Been waiting for this one for a while. I think with a full repaste and pads from hidevolution combined with an undervolt and overclock there should be no complaints. Probably the best quality display in its category even without a 240hz option. Plus i can adjust my steelseries mouse and the keyboard through the same application.
YOUR REVIEWS ARE THE ABSOLUTE BEST! I have ordered the msi gs75 with rtx 2060 and thermal grizzly conductonaut on cpu / gpu. Will undervolt after receiving it if that helps to increase performance further. I think 2060 is the best price-performance value right now. And I only play Dota 2 anyways. And the looks / battery life is very important for my business meetings as well.
Love the content man.. Definitely gonna help me with your vids in buying the new laptop... I am extremely excited for the New Aero 15 240Hz laptop review when it comes. 🙏
IMHO MSi should really try to avoid putting all those stickers on the machine. I dont like the idea of a $2000+ computer with the possibility of 4 adhesive sticker marks that will eventually attract dirt and look like shit, or risk damaging the surface in attempt to completely rid the adhesive.
I got the 17inch 2070 Max, i7 version - Good graphics and all but i do notice a few performance dip - assume itd be the CPU for it. - Good review thanks that for that :)
I'm thinking about buying either this or the new alienware m17... I'll have to wait for another 2 month for the AW release & reviews and see which has better cooling
been using for a week now, so far so good, strong performance, sick design, dope touchpad, beautiful screen.| just becareful when holding it around , try not to use one hand just incase u lose balance and drop it. figure out how to undervolt cpu and lock gpu, gives u strong performance at low temps.!
@@AdarshPandeyFilms i got the i7-9750h + rtx2060 version no it doesnt not feel cheap, no it doesnt crack or pop either. too many bad rumors about it, but i gues it all comes down to how everyone takes care of it. real only downside are the hinges (theyll make it feel easy to break but, just becareful and try to open it from the middle part.)
@@AdarshPandeyFilms definitely recommend it, but would highly suggest getting thermal repaste done by professional, also make sure get dual channel ram. Both will make a big difference. goodluck
Ok, i'm definitely either stupid, or misunderstanding the temperature part at 6:30. Does it actually get to 70, 80, and 90 degrees Celsius? Idk what temperatures are normal for a computer, so maybe it's normal, but dang I didn't realize computers were so hot.
Year after year these laptops keep coming out, and even at such price premiums, the thermal throttling problems still persist, it baffles me that even though laptop CPUs are so much slower than their desktop versions, yet they run so hot. Also, I have seen liquid cooling in 6 inch phones now a days, why can't they try it in laptops.
Cuz then they would HAVE TO raise the price of the laptop to ridiculous prices. And liquid metal is not really proven to lower temperatures no more than 5-10 degrees. And it's not the gpu's that get REALLY FUCKING HOT its the CPU cuz it does most of the work. At least that's what I think. I could be wrong.
No throttling on the GX701, their cooling design really does work wonders. Just have to get used to the keyboard which I found no problems with at all. I had more trouble with the MSI GS75 due to clicking the track pad whenever I rested my hands on the home row keys.
I think it is not really oem's faults, its intel having hot chips. People also want thin and light which makes cooling even harder (for most people behemoths like the Area 51m is a desktop replacement not a laptop anymore).
I'm considering this laptop for a portable day trading platform. I will be running the thinkorswim program. Its lPC recommendations are: Intel corei7, 16GB RAM, 1G free HD space, and a dedicated video card. The kicker is that I will need to tether another screen to the machine. Would this laptop support this? Thanks
Mines finally broke after 4 years and dropped over 15 times the screen finally broke off the hinges, now I’m looking to either get it fixed & repaired or just buy a new one/ or replacement.
hi Mr Jarrod what laptop have the best thermals ? for 1500$ i have already brought the acer predator Helios 300 and i love it i want another one for my sister
I have this exact laptop with the i7-9750h and the 2070 Max-q, works like a charm, and my temps are lower than yours by a bit, but I also pushed the undervolt lower than yours
I have a question. Do you have to open the back of the laptop frequently to clean it, or do you not really need to do this on a laptop, compared to stationary pcs?
A bit late. I own this laptop (albeit the RTX 2070 model) and for over 2 years of mostly desktop usage (some travel here and there) there was very little dust buildup.
Hi jarrod quality video as usual, would you recommend full 2070 laptops over the 2080 max-q ? what if the price of the laptop is the same?.i am under the impression that the 2070 will perform roughly the same but with higher tdp and thermals. another question is will raytracing be better on the 2080 maxq.
Thanks! Depends, in the limited data I've compared either seem to be ahead of the other in different games. I want to properly compare them but I need more data, as I've only tested the 2070 with 9750H and 2080 Max-Q with 8750H, so there is a CPU difference that prevents me doing a proper comparison.
With the cpu limitations provided, do you reckon the i7-9750h version would be an advantage or disadvantage? Major concerns being cooling and throttling
Maybe an advantage in single core workloads, probably tiny bit better in some games, but for multicore I wouldn't expect much / any difference unless they've improved the 9th gen model in other ways.
My charging adaptor is lost in luggage while traveling.... I wish to know the charger specification like brand of charger in original packing, wattage, ampere etc.?..thanks
Worked well, good specs and no problems. Screen looked good from what I recall, no issues outside of what I covered in the video with the bleed, though that sort of thing will always vary anyway.
Hi Jarrod. Sorry, I just have a quick question. If my MSI GS75 Stealth laptop begins to heat up more than im comfortable with, do you know of any cooling fan/pads that will work well with this laptop? Im confused as to where the laptop takes in air and where it expels the heat. I just can't find the answer online when I search. Thank you!
I guess anything that accommodates a 17" laptop would be ok. I honestly have not compared many different cooling pads yet to really say, but I am in the middle of working on a comparison of 3 cooling pads/vacuum coolers/a simple stand with 10 different machines to see if it matters.
How does this laptop compare with the Razer Blade Pro 17? I hear that the new razer blade pro comes with an option of a 4k 120hz screen which I believe is a rarity. I would really appreciate a comparison
You can check my review of the blade pro 17 and compare the results. I don't know if 4k 120hz is for sale yet, I saw it at Computex in June but haven't otherwise seen it yet. I'd like to do a dedicated comparison but I had both with different GPU/CPU so would want to get both the same to compare fairly.
I have had my GL75 95DK for a year now.I believe the unit reviewed here has the same keyboard as mine.I can live with the mediocre battery,but there are 3 major problems with the keyboard.First I have still never gotten used to the feel which causes errors.I can never "feel" where I am on the keys like with my 2011 Macbook and cheapo 2013 Samsung.Definitely slows me down.The keys tilt instead of moving up and down and makes me often tap the space bar without it responding.Second you can't dim the keyboard which is needed.Most keyboard light settings are a freaking unwanted light show.I like illuminated on the light green color,the only one that doesn't move around but is too bright sometimes with some uses like streaming videos..I usually turn the lit keyboard off.Thirdly, many of the letters look something like Russian and the @#$%^&*+ etc.are very very small.These things have slowed down my keyboarding noticably.Otherwise I like the 144 hertz screen and fast processing.MSI PLEASE CHANGE THIS KEYBOARD !!
Jarrod, I wonder if you might be interested in investing and investigating if these thin and light laptop can work (safely and stably) with any light chargers with lower power for daily uses. The laptop doesn’t really need to be running at full power on the go but duration matters a lot. The weight of power brick is making the weight reduction of the laptop itself useless. Being able to carry a compatible charger with smaller footprint matters a lot to me. The asus gx502 has type c pd. That really helps a lot. Even if that doesn’t cover the power consumption but the total battery life can still be quite extended especially if you use you laptop on and off
Jarrod'sTech I would be happy to search and get back to you in a day or two with options if you are interested. What matters the most is to have the roughly right voltage so nothing burns. Current is tied with the power. As long as the connectors are compatible, which is a regular barrel connector here, it should work from an electrical standpoint. Then it’s a matter of checking if neither charger nor pc entering any strange “protection” mode. As for testing, we might need to think of a different test methodology with what you normally do. And FYI, I own a gs65.
Hi guys, I was wondering if it was worth to update from a predator helios 300 2018 with a 1060 and an i7 8750h to this laptop but with the 2070Max Q version? I've seen that the 2070Max Q version had 16gb on single channel. Love this channel btw. The best laptop reviewing channel on YT.
@@Healer2001 If you're looking for just gaming on a thin and light, get the gx701. Instead if you're planning to use for work and gaming life myself, gs75 hands down.
Will you be testing the new razer blade pro 17 2019???? It would be a life saver.....!!!!!! I want to by a good all over laptop my budget is 3000 £ and I don't know what to buy . I want something future proof. I was thinking on the razer blades.... But don't know now?!
Hey bro Im thinking to buy The ASUS ROG strix scar iii but also the MSI GS75 stealth, which do you think is better performance and why? Asking because my birthday is in May 10 and I want to get a gaming laptop.
The keyboard looks cool but i prefer only the key letters and numbers light up brightly, no key side light bleed. I hope it doesn't have facial recognition
Hey Jarrod if you had a choice between the gs75 or the Asus gx701 for uni (I'm gonna be studying architecture). Another question is the build quality of the gs75, is it really bad cuz all the other reviews I watched and read say it's pretty bad. Cheers keep up the good work love yea vids :)
I think the GS75 has better battery life, can't recall but you can check in my GX701 review as I do the same tests as in this video so you can compare. Build quality of the GS75 seemed fine to me, all metal, not quite as solid as say the more expensive razer blade pro 17 though.
I want to buy this notebook Jarrod but in a lot of reviews people say the sound is very poor and we can cut the finger because the upper bezel is too thin. Can you tell me your impressions about this?
It didn't feel sharp to me, honestly can't recall speaker quality as I filmed this a few weeks ago, but I talk about my thoughts on it after having just listened to it in the video.
Apparently it sounds better, according to the comment of some audio engineer I read a few weeks ago, as it bounces the sound off the flat surface which makes it both louder and seem like it has more bass, not sure on the details but I guess there's a reason.
Thanks! Probably not for a while, GE65 launched at Computex, and we have all the 9th gen Intel CPUs and 16/20 series Nvidia graphics now, so probably not going to be anything new for a bit, but that's just my best guess.
Do you think that an undervolt + liquid metal on CPU and GPU (will drop temps by 10 to 14 degrees Celsius from what I've seen) make this the best thin and light 17 inch machine?
Hi men, Please help me with my decision in buying my first gaming laptop. Should I choose GS75 or Zephyrus S GX502 or Zephyrus M or Zephyrus S GX531. My main focus is esthetic, upgradeability, and cooling. Please help me
Any suggestions for msi gp 75 10sfk leopard? It has core i7 10750 with rtx 2070, 9sfk is discontinued and has not so good reviews, but no one has reviewed 10sfk yet.
Hey Jarrod. Sean again I did some more benchmarking with my 9th gen GS75 and I got the following results. Cinebench R15 - 1197 Cinebench R20 - 2708 Time Spy Overall - 7679 Gpu - 7976 Cpu - 6287 Heaven 4.0 extreme preset - 125.1 Apex Legends - 110.63 Shadow of the Tomb Raider - 95 Far Cry New Dawn - 89.33 Metro Exodus Ultra Preset - 57.44 Metro Exodus RTX Preset - 48.82 Monster Hunter World - 83.78 All results are the average of 3 runs at highest settings unless stated otherwise. Temperature testing at maxed fan (30 mins) Metro Exodus - 92 cpu, 71 gpu Prime95+Heaven - 92 cpu, 73 gpu Enjoy :)
which one you recommend gs75 vs gs65 vs mag 15 vs razer 15 vs y740 for student 80% studying, working 20% gaming, my priority is durability and battery life + 1660ti or more.... do you have any other recommendation thank you
Do you think this would be a better choice than the Razer Blade 15 in terms of performance (gaming mostly)? It would be interesting to see how the GS75 holds up against the new Razer Blade 17/Pro.
You can check my Blade 15 review and compare as I do pretty much the same tests, otherwise I may do a dedicated comparison video later. The blade pro just arrived so I would prioritize that comparison as they're both 17"
Great review as always Any chance you can try and review the Asus Zephyrus G, would like to know how it compares to the Asus tuf and other 1660ti laptops.
That's a disappointing to hear :( After seeing a few reviews on the Zephyrus G I'm a little disappointed in the performance as it seems the GPU is bottlenecked by the CPU, as it is only 35w. Also it would be interesting to see how the 1660ti Max Q in the Zephyrus G compares to other laptops with the full fat 1660ti as those laptops seem to have poor thermal performance. Also reviewers are saying the screen is poor, however is it that noticeable. Anyhow, I can wait for your review :), at the moment it's a little pricey for what it is and will wait for it to come down in price.
Was gonna cheap out even more and get a 120hz 512gb IdeaPad Gaming 3i, but the rgb% accuracy on it is just nothing compared to this. That matters a lot.
MSI has great laptops but I've seen so many bad reviews about its bad build quality and hinge problem. I can't decide between helios 300 and a msi one. Which one could u go for Jarrod?
I've never had any hinge issues myself, but I only use these for a couple of weeks so can't really comment on long term durability issues unfortunately. Helios 300 is seriously impressive, one of the best machines I've tested in a while. Not sure which MSI laptop you're talking about specifically, but for the price and how well it is overall the 300 is going to be hard to beat.
Great review. Can you please do a benchmark on this ASUS GL731GV (Strix III). It has a rtx 2060 with i7 9750H in dual channel memory. If you get the chance. Thanks.
There is a video about G531GW few days ago, so I don't GL731 is coming. But the one Jarrod got seem to be a very bad sample with very poor thermal and CPU performance, it may not be very representative.
I'm not sure what you mean. If you uninstall the Nvidia drivers, it won't work - well actually Windows will automatically try to install an outdated version via Windows update to provide functionality.
To be honest, I don't have time at the moment as I have 10 laptops here to work through so I need to prioritize those as they have to get sent back. Steve at Hardware Unboxed has compared new and old Nvidia drivers on the PC side in the past and saw no difference: th-cam.com/video/lY7_ujxbdNY/w-d-xo.html
Could you do the MSI GF75 next? It now comes with the I7-9700H and the gtx1650 and I think it could actually give me a good run for the money, but I'm not sure.
Awesome video, clean laptop very tempting. I just wish that it had a full sd card slot damn it! This is huge for us content creators I wish manufacturers would understand this :(
umm there's a type of "adaptor" out there. Which allows your micro SD to transform into a normal SD card. Allowing you to use Micro SD for your phone (or other things). But at the same time, also use it for other devices that require SD cards. Basically: what's smaller can be used in bigger situations. But what's bigger will never be able to be used in smaller situations :)
Just got my gs75 with the RTX 2060 and I love it so far plays everything at max setting above 70FPS which is good for me. $1799 on Amazon so not too bad of a deal.
Good to hear!
How is the temperature?
Evan Sargent That’s too much for a 2060 laptop.
you have paid too much.
Got mine the new series for 1 weeks! The GS75 10SGS! Totally beast and from the data you list, for several games it boost around 20%-ish more with 2080 Super Max Q + i9 10th series..
Hi Jarrod.. Could you please do a Video suggesting some of the best laptops in each price range category..? Eg - (2000-2500$ or 2500-3000$ etc..)
Laptops Ranked from top to bottom .. based on the benchmarks, gaming and taking all the overall considerations..
Just a video suggestion.. I think a lot of viewers would want to watch that..!! Thanks and cheers.
The problem with that is there's too many models I'm yet to test, so I want to test more before I look at doing some sort of "Top X" style videos.
@@JarrodsTech compare and find the best prices and compare the thermals to see which thermals are better along with specs :D
Get the area 51m
@@myheadbro6214 it has facial recognition, i don't recommend it. Windows Bill Gates and Microsoft sell your data to the CIA for sure. Get a Zephyrus :D
_"Asus enters chat"_
MSI has a webcam on a thin bezel laptop
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😂
_"Asus accidentally unplugged their external webcam"_
F
But is the Webcam 1080P/60FPS?,.... Cuz the one asus BOXED in the new zephyrus is......
Have u ever used a webcam?
Hey Jarrod, just wanted to say that your methodical approach to benchmarking and testing is very refreshing and much appreciated. Easiest Subscribe of my life.
Thanks Troy!
And his voice! Only second to Morgan Freeman and Keanu Reeves 😉
Hahaha, most people seem to hate it so that's good to hear 😛
@@JarrodsTech nope we love it
@@JarrodsTech Absolutely love it!
I think the 18fps mode is due to the fact that when the battery is discharged, the voltage drops.
Yes, it's worth pointing out though as some can still let you play fine right til the end.
I use this (with the 2070 Max Q) for my VR laptop. It's pretty darn good.
Good to hear!
Is the laptop still working well for VR? I am thinking of getting it also for VR
@@andyblake8768 Very good, actually. It plays Skyrim VR max quality settings without breaking a sweat. Just make sure you are getting a model running dual channel memory mode unless you plan to upgrade the memory yourself. Iohrading RAM on this laptop is not as trivial as most and requires a very steady hand and careful disassembly. Also, you'll need a thunderbolt to display port adapter.
how are the thermals? what temperatures do u get?
@@Qusai94 Tou need to undervolt the CPU a bit on some CPU intensive games (Assasins Creed Odessy, etc...) to prevent thermal throttling, but other than that, it's pretty great, actually. Never had any issues with my Oculus Rift S...
That's the review I was looking for! Great job!
Thanks!
please make a review specially thermal review of MSI GE75 9SF, thank you
I'll see what I can do, they sent me the GP75 first.
I got this laptop for work yesterday and can say I am very pleased with it. It does everything I need for work and it's a good sub for my desktop when I'm not home and got an itch to game.
Hi! Thinking about buying this. Can it handle games like Killer Instinct and Monster Hunter Iceborne on Steam?
I have the impression that you have seen my comments on MSI GE75 ... and you've made a video about this laptop thx !
I have been asking MSI for an RTX GE75 for a while, but they sent me the 1070 one that I reviewed a few weeks ago 😁
@@JarrodsTech yep
I purchased this for my on the go design machine and a little bit of gaming too. So far my favorite laptop I have ever owned. It is a little loud and the cpu gets crazy hot but overall great laptop
At 13:33 I saw you tested Battlefield 5 with RTX on. I REALLY want to play this game with RTX. But I have a question that’s been in my mind for a while now.
In the game, you can set the graphics to 1920x1080p Ultra settings. But there’s a separate setting which allows you to adjust the ray tracing quality. In your tests, did you change the quality of the ray tracing down to medium to get around 83.01 FPS? While having the rest set at ultra? I want to play the game at 1080p with a minimum of 60FPS with ultra graphics with the exception of ray tracing on at medium. And this of course would be with the RTX 2070 Max Q.
I have a desktop MSI gaming PC with an intel core i7 6700 processor, 16gb of ram running in dual channel, and an MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6gb Armor Edition. I was wondering if this laptop with an RTX 2070 Max Q could out perform or match the performance of my desktop since it isn’t the newest on the market.
I’m also in the 11th grade, and I use my surface pro 2017 a lot at school. So the larger battery life is the key part that really peaked my interest. I’m looking for a gaming laptop that has RTX graphics, but good battery life. And this seems to check all my needs off!
Anyway, thanks for reading this super long comment and taking the time to answer my questions. I just want to make sure that this would be the right Choice for me.
All I do is enable DXR and leave everything default, I didn't go in and change any RTX specific settings. I will note that in my personal opinion, RTX off with ultra settings looks better than RTX on medium. It's hard to compare results as laptop hardware is cut down, and PC hardware has unlimited power limit and less thermal restrictions, but the laptop specs will certainly be able to play any game well. For laptops with big batteries and also good specs, look at the Eluktronics MAG-15/Gigabyte Aero 15.
Jarrod'sTech Thanks! I’ll check them out
No one read this but whatevs
I have the previous series on this lineup (gs63, 15", i7 7gen, GTX 1060) i gotta say this is the best thing i get in a while, slim, capable to everything i throw at it and really light to carry around.
The problem is that i need to lower my cpu clock while gaming because it will thermal throttle eventhough there are OC option in the command centre. Also the cpu fan start ringing like hell on the first year because theres a problem on the motor of the blade which are usual problem that owner face while having this laptop.
TL:DR, slim laptop are fun to have but you need extra effort if you want the laptop to last long
You must know I reply to every new comment by now so of course I'll read it 😛 yeah that's a problem with most thin machines unfortunately, did undervolting help?
@@JarrodsTech it did(ish)
After undervolt (-110mv):
Idle: hover between 45°c~
Load: 85°c sometimes 90°c max
Those are in 24°c room temp
Great job
Lenovo legion y540 review please
Thanks! I'm still waiting on them to have review units available in Australia, nothing more I can but wait.
Been waiting on that for awhile now. Someone in my local area have the y540 i7-9750H-16G-RTX2060 for $1600 Cad. Looks like a pretty good deal to me come to buying new. I have to meet him today but would have been nice to see something about this device on TH-cam.
THANK YOU FOR DOING A BACKLIGHT BLEED TEST
Such an underrated aspect of a laptop, also kind of ridiculous a 2500$ machine comes with big yellow circles on the display.
As a graphic designer I try to make my work space as dark as possible for colour and edit accuracy, so backlight bleed is a giant no-go for me
No problem! I always do them in my reviews 😃
Been waiting for this one for a while. I think with a full repaste and pads from hidevolution combined with an undervolt and overclock there should be no complaints. Probably the best quality display in its category even without a 240hz option. Plus i can adjust my steelseries mouse and the keyboard through the same application.
Yeah the custom paste could help out, would be interested to hear some before and after results!
YOUR REVIEWS ARE THE ABSOLUTE BEST!
I have ordered the msi gs75 with rtx 2060 and thermal grizzly conductonaut on cpu / gpu. Will undervolt after receiving it if that helps to increase performance further. I think 2060 is the best price-performance value right now. And I only play Dota 2 anyways. And the looks / battery life is very important for my business meetings as well.
Thanks! Cool let us know how it goes 👍
@@JarrodsTech will definitely do! 👍🏻
@@JarrodsTech www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops/comments/bjatj8/gs75_2080_liquid_metal_results/ - Check this out! 25% increase in cpu performance
Love the content man.. Definitely gonna help me with your vids in buying the new laptop... I am extremely excited for the New Aero 15 240Hz laptop review when it comes. 🙏
Thanks! Hopefully not too far off, at Computex they told me some time in late June.
I’m stoked with mine. $2500 AUD for 2060 version with 9th gen processor.
Good to hear!
Bro return that ASAP best buy has a sale for the 2080maxq for the same price rn the sale ends tomorrow
@@mattkarnung902 He's in australia. Not sure if they have best buy or if they would even ship there
IMHO MSi should really try to avoid putting all those stickers on the machine. I dont like the idea of a $2000+ computer with the possibility of 4 adhesive sticker marks that will eventually attract dirt and look like shit, or risk damaging the surface in attempt to completely rid the adhesive.
I got the 17inch 2070 Max, i7 version - Good graphics and all but i do notice a few performance dip - assume itd be the CPU for it. - Good review thanks that for that :)
I'm thinking about buying either this or the new alienware m17... I'll have to wait for another 2 month for the AW release & reviews and see which has better cooling
Yeah I'm interested to test out the new AW, not sure when I'll get it though.
@@JarrodsTech Last time i checked, it will release late July. So probably around that time, hopefully sooner :)
Same (Zephyrus S is another option for me ) so i'm interested in a review of the new AW m17
been using for a week now, so far so good, strong performance, sick design, dope touchpad, beautiful screen.|
just becareful when holding it around , try not to use one hand just incase u lose balance and drop it.
figure out how to undervolt cpu and lock gpu, gives u strong performance at low temps.!
Do you have the 2080 MQ?
How is the build quality? Does it crack and pop or feel cheap?
@@AdarshPandeyFilms i got the i7-9750h + rtx2060 version
no it doesnt not feel cheap, no it doesnt crack or pop either.
too many bad rumors about it, but i gues it all comes down to how everyone takes care of it.
real only downside are the hinges (theyll make it feel easy to break but, just becareful and try to open it from the middle part.)
Good to hear!
@@erkydi oh nice.. im planning to get the same laptop as you..
@@AdarshPandeyFilms definitely recommend it, but would highly suggest getting thermal repaste done by professional, also make sure get dual channel ram. Both will make a big difference. goodluck
Ok, i'm definitely either stupid, or misunderstanding the temperature part at 6:30. Does it actually get to 70, 80, and 90 degrees Celsius? Idk what temperatures are normal for a computer, so maybe it's normal, but dang I didn't realize computers were so hot.
Yes, degrees Celsius. These are worst case workloads, however with modern 6 core 8th/9th gen laptops 90c under multicore load is quite normal.
Year after year these laptops keep coming out, and even at such price premiums, the thermal throttling problems still persist, it baffles me that even though laptop CPUs are so much slower than their desktop versions, yet they run so hot.
Also, I have seen liquid cooling in 6 inch phones now a days, why can't they try it in laptops.
There's only so much they can do when Intel keeps cranking the clock speed without architecture improvements each generation.
Cuz then they would HAVE TO raise the price of the laptop to ridiculous prices. And liquid metal is not really proven to lower temperatures no more than 5-10 degrees. And it's not the gpu's that get REALLY FUCKING HOT its the CPU cuz it does most of the work. At least that's what I think. I could be wrong.
No throttling on the GX701, their cooling design really does work wonders. Just have to get used to the keyboard which I found no problems with at all. I had more trouble with the MSI GS75 due to clicking the track pad whenever I rested my hands on the home row keys.
I think it is not really oem's faults, its intel having hot chips. People also want thin and light which makes cooling even harder (for most people behemoths like the Area 51m is a desktop replacement not a laptop anymore).
@@TabalugaDragon 7700hq is 42% slower than 7700k
I'm considering this laptop for a portable day trading platform. I will be running the thinkorswim program. Its lPC recommendations are: Intel corei7, 16GB RAM, 1G free HD space, and a dedicated video card. The kicker is that I will need to tether another screen to the machine.
Would this laptop support this? Thanks
Thanks for this review! I needed it. Thanks again ❤❤
No problem!
Mines finally broke after 4 years and dropped over 15 times the screen finally broke off the hinges, now I’m looking to either get it fixed & repaired or just buy a new one/ or replacement.
hi Mr Jarrod
what laptop have the best thermals ? for 1500$ i have already brought the acer predator Helios 300 and i love it i want another one for my sister
I have this exact laptop with the i7-9750h and the 2070 Max-q, works like a charm, and my temps are lower than yours by a bit, but I also pushed the undervolt lower than yours
Good to hear!
Does the performance lack due to the undervolt or is it the same?
loving the reviews cant wait for the comparisons
Cheers!
I have a question. Do you have to open the back of the laptop frequently to clean it, or do you not really need to do this on a laptop, compared to stationary pcs?
A bit late. I own this laptop (albeit the RTX 2070 model) and for over 2 years of mostly desktop usage (some travel here and there) there was very little dust buildup.
I have been considering getting the 1660Ti version of this. Seems to be the best value gpu from nvidia....
Yeah 1660 Ti has been good from my limited testing so far, once I test a few more out I'll do some comparisons with the 2060 and 1650!
agree
Good review ! However may I know if I should get the msi gs75 ,msi gs65 or Razer blade 15
Hi jarrod quality video as usual, would you recommend full 2070 laptops over the 2080 max-q ? what if the price of the laptop is the same?.i am under the impression that the 2070 will perform roughly the same but with higher tdp and thermals. another question is will raytracing be better on the 2080 maxq.
Thanks! Depends, in the limited data I've compared either seem to be ahead of the other in different games. I want to properly compare them but I need more data, as I've only tested the 2070 with 9750H and 2080 Max-Q with 8750H, so there is a CPU difference that prevents me doing a proper comparison.
Can u plz compare this laptop with lenovo legion 5 or 5i .i mean with msi gf75 thin core i7 9 th generation plz
With the cpu limitations provided, do you reckon the i7-9750h version would be an advantage or disadvantage? Major concerns being cooling and throttling
Maybe an advantage in single core workloads, probably tiny bit better in some games, but for multicore I wouldn't expect much / any difference unless they've improved the 9th gen model in other ways.
Would love to see you cover the MSI GL75. Pretty much no one has reviewed that on youtube.
I've been trying to get a GL series laptop from MSI for months but no luck so far, so not really sure if/when it will happen.
@@JarrodsTech Got it from Costco for $1k on sale. Awesome laptop for what my two cents are worth.
My charging adaptor is lost in luggage while traveling.... I wish to know the charger specification like brand of charger in original packing, wattage, ampere etc.?..thanks
How's it for doing everyday work? Good enough for both work and play?
Is the screen sharp or good for watching content?
Worked well, good specs and no problems. Screen looked good from what I recall, no issues outside of what I covered in the video with the bleed, though that sort of thing will always vary anyway.
Do a test of the new 15 inch Zephyrus s (GX502)
I'm trying to get it! They told me today there have been some delays getting the review units.
im waiting for this too..
Holy shit those temps are really high :O
I mean any laptop over heats because the the parts are small
Hi Jarrod. Sorry, I just have a quick question.
If my MSI GS75 Stealth laptop begins to heat up more than im comfortable with, do you know of any cooling fan/pads that will work well with this laptop? Im confused as to where the laptop takes in air and where it expels the heat. I just can't find the answer online when I search.
Thank you!
I guess anything that accommodates a 17" laptop would be ok. I honestly have not compared many different cooling pads yet to really say, but I am in the middle of working on a comparison of 3 cooling pads/vacuum coolers/a simple stand with 10 different machines to see if it matters.
How does this laptop compare with the Razer Blade Pro 17? I hear that the new razer blade pro comes with an option of a 4k 120hz screen which I believe is a rarity. I would really appreciate a comparison
You can check my review of the blade pro 17 and compare the results. I don't know if 4k 120hz is for sale yet, I saw it at Computex in June but haven't otherwise seen it yet. I'd like to do a dedicated comparison but I had both with different GPU/CPU so would want to get both the same to compare fairly.
I have had my GL75 95DK for a year now.I believe the unit reviewed here has the same keyboard as mine.I can live with the mediocre battery,but there are 3 major problems with the keyboard.First I have still never gotten used to the feel which causes errors.I can never "feel" where I am on the keys like with my 2011 Macbook and cheapo 2013 Samsung.Definitely slows me down.The keys tilt instead of moving up and down and makes me often tap the space bar without it responding.Second you can't dim the keyboard which is needed.Most keyboard light settings are a freaking unwanted light show.I like illuminated on the light green color,the only one that doesn't move around but is too bright sometimes with some uses like streaming videos..I usually turn the lit keyboard off.Thirdly, many of the letters look something like Russian and the @#$%^&*+ etc.are very very small.These things have slowed down my keyboarding noticably.Otherwise I like the 144 hertz screen and fast processing.MSI PLEASE CHANGE THIS KEYBOARD !!
Jarrod, I wonder if you might be interested in investing and investigating if these thin and light laptop can work (safely and stably) with any light chargers with lower power for daily uses. The laptop doesn’t really need to be running at full power on the go but duration matters a lot. The weight of power brick is making the weight reduction of the laptop itself useless. Being able to carry a compatible charger with smaller footprint matters a lot to me. The asus gx502 has type c pd. That really helps a lot. Even if that doesn’t cover the power consumption but the total battery life can still be quite extended especially if you use you laptop on and off
Hmm could be interesting, I'd just need a lower wattage charger, don't currently have any here.
Jarrod'sTech I would be happy to search and get back to you in a day or two with options if you are interested. What matters the most is to have the roughly right voltage so nothing burns. Current is tied with the power. As long as the connectors are compatible, which is a regular barrel connector here, it should work from an electrical standpoint. Then it’s a matter of checking if neither charger nor pc entering any strange “protection” mode. As for testing, we might need to think of a different test methodology with what you normally do. And FYI, I own a gs65.
@@JarrodsTech docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ug-ELF4bsA8N5ohKFIzkO3C920N1KhB-A7XYgXZZbt8/edit?usp=sharing
Is it possible to change the battery if it dies after years?
Hi guys, I was wondering if it was worth to update from a predator helios 300 2018 with a 1060 and an i7 8750h to this laptop but with the 2070Max Q version? I've seen that the 2070Max Q version had 16gb on single channel. Love this channel btw. The best laptop reviewing channel on YT.
Does it support virtualization tech?
GX701 vs GS75 will be one of the most epic camparesion in this channel. Unfortunallty it's not the newest 9th gen CPUs.
Yeah but that makes it easier for me to compare as I have both 8th gen haha
We all know that GX701 is a beast.
@@Healer2001 If you're looking for just gaming on a thin and light, get the gx701. Instead if you're planning to use for work and gaming life myself, gs75 hands down.
@@MalikHassan7 like if i want to editing videos so GX701 is not good?
@@Healer2001 it's good! But storage maximum u can get upto 2tb only. On msi tho you can have maximum 6tb storage.
would you say is good to have as a main laptaop to trabel. like would it look wored?
Sure, personally I would prefer the gs65 as it's smaller and more portable
Will you be testing the new razer blade pro 17 2019???? It would be a life saver.....!!!!!! I want to by a good all over laptop my budget is 3000 £ and I don't know what to buy . I want something future proof. I was thinking on the razer blades.... But don't know now?!
Yes, it's here now.
@@JarrodsTech I have been waiting for it since computex....thank you so much for doing this valuable content on youtube
Bonus the power supply is useful to use for other 20 volt devises it is 10 amps
i dont like sides of the keys clear. i dont like any light leakage. i dont like centered touchpad, i need gsync
Fair enough.
Hey Jarod can you help me choose which is the best laptop to buy I'm thorn apart with Asus zephyrus and this model msi gs75
Hey bro Im thinking to buy The ASUS ROG strix scar iii but also the MSI GS75 stealth, which do you think is better performance and why? Asking because my birthday is in May 10 and I want to get a gaming laptop.
I'm just guessing as haven't tested both with same specs, GS75 will probably cost more money for the thinner form factor though.
Jarrod'sTech well in your opinion which do you like more?
Anyone know what that cooling pad is called at 9:24??
It's this one: th-cam.com/video/Zx2EnUD-DoM/w-d-xo.html
It would be nice if you put the sRGB and the other colours gamuts on the screen besides just saying
I don't understand. The results are on the screen when I mention them?: 1:48
@@JarrodsTech i mean could you put the numbers on the screen while you are saying them?
I’m using RTX 2080max q...What’s the maximum RAM and ROM upgrade?
Can you do a comparation of GS75 and Razer Blade 15 Advanced?
It's on the todo list, though I just got the blade pro 17 which probably makes more sense.
Great video as always! Thanks :)
hello, i have a gs75 9SE but does it support charging via thunderbolt 3 ?
The keyboard looks cool but i prefer only the key letters and numbers light up brightly, no key side light bleed. I hope it doesn't have facial recognition
Fair enough, no windows hello support as the camera needs IR
Hey Jarrod if you had a choice between the gs75 or the Asus gx701 for uni (I'm gonna be studying architecture).
Another question is the build quality of the gs75, is it really bad cuz all the other reviews I watched and read say it's pretty bad.
Cheers keep up the good work love yea vids :)
I think the GS75 has better battery life, can't recall but you can check in my GX701 review as I do the same tests as in this video so you can compare. Build quality of the GS75 seemed fine to me, all metal, not quite as solid as say the more expensive razer blade pro 17 though.
I want to buy this notebook Jarrod but in a lot of reviews people say the sound is very poor and we can cut the finger because the upper bezel is too thin. Can you tell me your impressions about this?
It didn't feel sharp to me, honestly can't recall speaker quality as I filmed this a few weeks ago, but I talk about my thoughts on it after having just listened to it in the video.
why do they still use bottom faced speaker for a high end laptop?? makes no sense to me
Apparently it sounds better, according to the comment of some audio engineer I read a few weeks ago, as it bounces the sound off the flat surface which makes it both louder and seem like it has more bass, not sure on the details but I guess there's a reason.
Ok you've sold me. I'M ASKING FOR THIS FOR CHRISTMAS!!! This would be PERFECT for taking my VR gaming experience on the go! Thank you!
No problem, let us know how it goes if you get it!
Do you know when the next gen MSI GE and GS laptops could be expected? Great vid
Thanks! Probably not for a while, GE65 launched at Computex, and we have all the 9th gen Intel CPUs and 16/20 series Nvidia graphics now, so probably not going to be anything new for a bit, but that's just my best guess.
Do you think that an undervolt + liquid metal on CPU and GPU (will drop temps by 10 to 14 degrees Celsius from what I've seen) make this the best thin and light 17 inch machine?
I don't know, I'd only be guessing as I've never seen any numbers from anyone who has actually tried it on the GS75.
Please compare MSI GS75 Stealth vs MSI GE75 Raider vs Asus GX701 in detail
There are more comparisons on the way.
Hi men,
Please help me with my decision in buying my first gaming laptop. Should I choose GS75 or Zephyrus S GX502 or Zephyrus M or Zephyrus S GX531. My main focus is esthetic, upgradeability, and cooling. Please help me
I'd get the GX502 personally.
has hite notebook for CPU + GPU Metal Paste`?
Hi can anyone suggest which laptop is good
Asus rog strix scar 3 or msi gs75 for gaming and video editing
Thanks
Any suggestions for msi gp 75 10sfk leopard? It has core i7 10750 with rtx 2070, 9sfk is discontinued and has not so good reviews, but no one has reviewed 10sfk yet.
10th gen still under embargo til the 16th, so no reviews on it til then.
Hey Jarrod. Sean again
I did some more benchmarking with my 9th gen GS75 and I got the following results.
Cinebench R15 - 1197
Cinebench R20 - 2708
Time Spy
Overall - 7679
Gpu - 7976
Cpu - 6287
Heaven 4.0 extreme preset - 125.1
Apex Legends - 110.63
Shadow of the Tomb Raider - 95
Far Cry New Dawn - 89.33
Metro Exodus Ultra Preset - 57.44
Metro Exodus RTX Preset - 48.82
Monster Hunter World - 83.78
All results are the average of 3 runs at highest settings unless stated otherwise.
Temperature testing at maxed fan (30 mins)
Metro Exodus - 92 cpu, 71 gpu
Prime95+Heaven - 92 cpu, 73 gpu
Enjoy :)
Cool, thanks for sharing! Hope it's going well 👍
How much frames can it hit ?
Very honest and informative review
Cheers!
specs for the MSI GS75
CPU: i7 8750h or i7 9750h or i9 9880h
GPU: RTX 2060 or RTX 2070 Max Q or RTX 2080 Max Q
Thanks
which one you recommend gs75 vs gs65 vs mag 15 vs razer 15 vs y740 for student 80% studying, working 20% gaming, my priority is durability and battery life + 1660ti or more.... do you have any other recommendation thank you
Too many options, going in depth would take a long time to answer. I'd buy the mag.
Great review. I just purchased an MSI laptop and I expect great things from it!
Cheers, nice hope it goes well!
how’s it doing bro
How is the battery life bro?
How much better are the thermals if you do an undervolt?
Undervolting results are shown on the graphs with the rest of the thermals.
Hello! I’m planning to buy a GS75 stealth GTX 1660 ti version. Do you think the display is good enough for video editing and color correction?
If it's the same as I had here, then yeah it should be decent for that.
Hi Jarrod! Do you think GSYNC is important when considering buying a gaming laptop?
Yes: th-cam.com/video/RJfHr-Y57LY/w-d-xo.html
Do you think this would be a better choice than the Razer Blade 15 in terms of performance (gaming mostly)? It would be interesting to see how the GS75 holds up against the new Razer Blade 17/Pro.
You can check my Blade 15 review and compare as I do pretty much the same tests, otherwise I may do a dedicated comparison video later. The blade pro just arrived so I would prioritize that comparison as they're both 17"
Great review as always
Any chance you can try and review the Asus Zephyrus G, would like to know how it compares to the Asus tuf and other 1660ti laptops.
Thanks! I've been trying to get it, and actually had an update today, there might be delays of 1-2 months unfortunately, so I'll have to wait :(
That's a disappointing to hear :(
After seeing a few reviews on the Zephyrus G I'm a little disappointed in the performance as it seems the GPU is bottlenecked by the CPU, as it is only 35w.
Also it would be interesting to see how the 1660ti Max Q in the Zephyrus G compares to other laptops with the full fat 1660ti as those laptops seem to have poor thermal performance.
Also reviewers are saying the screen is poor, however is it that noticeable.
Anyhow, I can wait for your review :), at the moment it's a little pricey for what it is and will wait for it to come down in price.
From what I've seen so far, it's the same price as the Helios 300 but lower CPU and GPU, so could be a good alternative.
That what I was thinking, the Helios 300 isn't available in the UK at the moment, so got some time to make a decision.
Was gonna cheap out even more and get a 120hz 512gb IdeaPad Gaming 3i, but the rgb% accuracy on it is just nothing compared to this. That matters a lot.
Hey man, which one do you think is the best? MSI GS75 or asus GX502? Thanks for the nice review. Keep up the good work!! 🤙
Thanks! Probably the gx502, check my review of it that thing is a beast for the size
@@JarrodsTech this test goes to the MSI: www.gpucheck.com/nl-eur/compare-laptops/msi-gaming-ge75-2070-vs-asus-rog-zephyrus-gx502
at what temps will thermal throttling happen for cpu and gpu
Not sure, didn't use GPU-Z to check the GPU limit but it's usually 87c I think.
Please, Jarrod, add god damn Msi or same overlay in gameplay. It have more info.
We don't do that here.
MSI has great laptops but I've seen so many bad reviews about its bad build quality and hinge problem. I can't decide between helios 300 and a msi one. Which one could u go for Jarrod?
I've never had any hinge issues myself, but I only use these for a couple of weeks so can't really comment on long term durability issues unfortunately. Helios 300 is seriously impressive, one of the best machines I've tested in a while. Not sure which MSI laptop you're talking about specifically, but for the price and how well it is overall the 300 is going to be hard to beat.
Ordered helios 300 after watching the full review. Can't thank you enough since u helped a lot with those great review videos.
Great review. Can you please do a benchmark on this ASUS GL731GV (Strix III). It has a rtx 2060 with i7 9750H in dual channel memory. If you get the chance. Thanks.
There is a video about G531GW few days ago, so I don't GL731 is coming. But the one Jarrod got seem to be a very bad sample with very poor thermal and CPU performance, it may not be very representative.
Not sure if they have that model available at the moment, will see when I send the G531GW back!
Hey mate what was the name of that laptop cooler you were using?
Can you compare a laptop with and without Nvidia graphics drivers? I did notice different performace in my laptop
I'm not sure what you mean. If you uninstall the Nvidia drivers, it won't work - well actually Windows will automatically try to install an outdated version via Windows update to provide functionality.
@@JarrodsTech Oh i forgot about that, do you mind compare with previous graphics driver?
Just to see is there any difference
To be honest, I don't have time at the moment as I have 10 laptops here to work through so I need to prioritize those as they have to get sent back. Steve at Hardware Unboxed has compared new and old Nvidia drivers on the PC side in the past and saw no difference: th-cam.com/video/lY7_ujxbdNY/w-d-xo.html
Now thats what i call an indepth review
😁
does this laptop run the sims games well with a lot of Custom Content?
yes
I just got one the specs are insane 64 GB of ram and 2 tb of hard drive memory
Beast mode 💪
64GB of RAM? 32GB alone is overkill.
Peter Nelson is it bad
@@Anubis8315 No, not bad. Just not really good when 16GB is more than enough for most games. You're certainly future proof in that regard at least...
Could you do the MSI GF75 next? It now comes with the I7-9700H and the gtx1650 and I think it could actually give me a good run for the money, but I'm not sure.
I've already got the GP75, so we'll see what is available after that, hopefully!
Amazing gaming laptop with thunderbolt 3 included... Hard to beat !!!
Awesome video, clean laptop very tempting. I just wish that it had a full sd card slot damn it! This is huge for us content creators I wish manufacturers would understand this :(
Blade Pro and Aero 15 have them
Yeah that's one of the key reasons I went with the Aero 😅
umm there's a type of "adaptor" out there.
Which allows your micro SD to transform into a normal SD card. Allowing you to use Micro SD for your phone (or other things). But at the same time, also use it for other devices that require SD cards.
Basically: what's smaller can be used in bigger situations.
But what's bigger will never be able to be used in smaller situations :)