Landing a Piaggio AVANTI P180 in a Snowstorm. IFR Flight with Audio.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2022
- As requested by half the aviation community 😂
Here is a no music pure audio version of our last snow storm flight.
If you have any questions about to the aircraft feel free to ask.
Heres some specs on it.
The Piaggio P.180 Avanti is an Italian executive transport aircraft with twin turboprop engines mounted in pusher configuration. It seats up to nine people in a pressurized cabin and may be flown by one or two pilots. The design is of three-surface configuration, having both a small forward wing and a conventional tailplane, as well as its main wing, with the main wing spars passing behind the passenger cabin area.
The Avanti's counter-rotating turboprop engines are placed on a mid-set, high-aspect-ratio wing located just behind the cabin. The three-surface design incorporates both a T-tail and a pair of small, fixed forewings having slight anhedral and landing flaps. On the Avanti II these flaps automatically deploy in concert with the main wing flaps. This reduces the load on the tailplane, even when the flaps are deployed, by reducing the pitch-down moment created by the deployment of the main wing flaps.
The Avanti's forward wing flaps deploy automatically with the main wing flaps to maintain neutral pitch trim.
The forward wing's angle of incidence is slightly greater than that of the main wing, so that it stalls before the main wing, producing an automatic nose-down effect prior to the onset of main-wing stall; its five-degree anhedral (negative dihedral) keeps the stream wash interference clear of the engine inlets, the main wing and the tailplane.
Showing the continuously varying curve of the fuselage cross-section and forward wing
The cabin cross-section varies continuously along the length of the aircraft; the shape approximates an NACA airfoil section, and the slowly changing curve helps prolong laminar flow on the front of the fuselage. Piaggio claims that the fuselage contributes up to 20% of the Avanti's total lift, with the front and rear wing providing the remaining 80%. Due to the unusual fuselage shape, the mid-cabin is considerably wider than the cockpit. The front and rear airfoils are custom sections designed by Jerry Gregorek[39] of Ohio State University's Aeronautical and Astronautical Research Laboratory to achieve a drag-reducing 50% laminar flow at cruise.
Cabin
The P180 is reported to have good fuel efficiency relative to small turbojets flying in the same speed and altitude range. Flight International stated: "The Avanti has no direct turboprop competitors, its closest jet rivals are the Raytheon Premier I and the Cessna Citation CJ2+ ... Piaggio says low-drag laminar flow is maintained to around 50% of the wing chord, compared with around 20-25% for conventional tractor turboprops where propeller wash disturbs the airflow over the wing. By this estimate, mileage is 70% better per fuel unit than comparable jet aircraft, although this greater efficiency is achieved only at a relatively slow 315 KTAS and FL410.[42] P180 Avanti II Specifications now show slightly lower numbers for specific range of 3.1 km/kg.
Interior noise is lower than in conventional turboprop aircraft, because the propellers and engine exhausts are behind the cabin. Piaggio quotes 68 dBA. However, due to the strongly disturbed flow in which the pusher propellers operate, the exterior noise is higher. The exterior noise level and its higher pitched sound has been shown to be the result primarily of the interaction of the turbine engine exhaust flows and the five-bladed pusher propellers (est. +9 dB).[43] On takeoff, the Avanti has been measured at 81.9 dBA sideline noise level, slightly lower than the Beechcraft King Air at 82.8 dBA. This is below FAA stage-3 noise limits, which set a maximum of 89 EPNdB for takeoff.
The Piaggio P.180 Avanti has a sea-level standard-day maximum-gross-weight takeoff distance of 869 m (2,851 ft) and a landing roll of 872 m (2,861 ft).[49]
In 2014 Piaggio announced development of an updated version, named EVO. It uses new Hartzell composite propellers, with blades of scimitar configuration. Its wings carry new winglets; aerodynamic improvements have been incorporated, and an additional 60-gallon (400 lb) fuel tank option to increase range to 1,770 nautical miles (3,280 kilometres; 2,040 miles).[51][52] The company predicts improved climb performance, 250 nmi greater range, and 3% reduction in fuel usage. The revised propeller shape, combined with a lower engine speed, promises a 68% reduction in external noise. Avanti EVO type certification was granted by EASA on 28 November 2014,[53] and by the FAA on 6 July 2015.[54] Projected purchase price was $7.4 million in 2014.[55] By 2021 the equipped price was $7.695 million.[56] The first EVO was delivered in April 2015, with five more to follow the same year.
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A “responsible” P180 pilot always removes the Static Wicks from the forward wing and removes the nose LG pin on post flight……which this gentleman did! 👍
He is a great pilot.
May I ask what the purpose of this is?
I always think it’s so cool when certain planes have proprietary quirks.
@@itsoliviarmstrong The Static Wicks (two) are located on the trailing edge of the forward wing. Curiosity seekers who looking at this A/C will NOT see the wicks and accidentally break one off with their body.
The Nose Gear pin MUST be removed before the A/C is towed to prevent damaging the steering mechanism! I was a Demo Pilot for Piaggio America years ago and accumulated over 1400 hours in this plane.
What a beautiful aircraft.
Nice video. Thanks for sharing. Appreciate the no-music!
Yeah. I can’t stand music plane videos
Yes music is the gay
Beautiful IFR landing.
Agreed 👍
Excellent video. Excellent write-up for this beautiful aircraft. Thank you!
Thanks for watching
Yep! The no music style is cool and helps my full attention to appreciate and learn more about the aircraft and the flying feeling, even out on this side of a video.
Great aircraft, great flight. I love the older analog gauges with the Garmin glass upgrades. Seems like a nice combination.
I enjoyed very much all the written information here about this Piaggio P180. Interesting characteristics! Nice flight and video! Keep it up please.
Excellent. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching
Amazing video!
i know this feeling when your hand is still shaking even after landing
Outstanding video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Nice flight!!!
Awesome Aircraft!
It is an older P180 ! If I had to buy a jet I would go for the P180 the best of both worlds not same fast than a real jet but almost and the cost of an normal turobo prob ! One of the greatest planes ever made ! efficiant and fast !
That is true!
This is very vintage manufacture they invented vespa world renowned scooter.
This would be a nice plane to own.
Just perfect 🥰
Thank you! 😊
wow... it's like you're flying in a cloud and then all of a sudden the runway is right there. 😬
Ifr is a crazy thing isn’t it?
an interesting plane design
Şok güzel very nice Vidio😎👍thank you kaptan
Where are you taking off from? That community on the lake looks killer.....and so does the plane.
Always likes the p180 since conception
Remember kids this TH-cam video has audio AND sound according to the title
Solid plane biggest issue is lack of range and range extension options. I understand they make military variants with 2000 NM they need to release those to the public as modification options.
I was seeing some stories that the P180 was not allowed in some airports due to the noise level? Seemed fairly quiet to me but I'm not outside the aircraft. Love the design, great video. Thanks
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Would you please keep up with more of this, state of the art acft, video? Would you also possibly work on sort of a "ground school" flight video?
Let me see what I can do
I believe this aircraft has about the same shaft horsepower and speed/flight envelope as the WW2 single seat P51 but is much larger and heavier. I believe it has more range. Amazing aerodynamics. Could be the turbines hold power at altitude better than a Merlin also.
I learned something new
Whats is approach and landing speeds?
Awesome plane! Slightly off-topic question, what's the story on the Pilot's sunglasses?
I have similar style glasses. Mine are made by serengetti.
I like that they shade the sides as well.
Me gusta el diseño. A ver si me dejan pilotarlo.
The Piaggio AVANTI is the best twin turbo prop currently available.
Houston, we have a Roger.
@2:13, nice Garmin upgrade from the Collins avionic.
when i was flying the piaggio i preferred the Collins and old FMS. thought it was more simple.
@@aschro6230 ::: the Garmin is much better than Collins - reduces pilot workload, easy setup, better situation awareness displays.
Just curious, what length runway would you be comfortable with while not at gross weight? Say 3 pax on a 2 hour flight.
4,000’ dry RWY No contamination
What is the IAS for typical climb?
160 KTS
Nice.
Flight was from where to where?
KBJC to hot springs Arkansas
@@SirDrifto Thanks!
@@SirDrifto I think the video is showing the other direction, i.e. Hot Springs to KBJC?
@@igclapp correct, i should of clarified, kbjc to khot back to kbjc that day.
Just out of curiosity, how easy are these to operate for single pilots (let’s say with the newest avionics) relative to other single pilot aircraft? I have to know, when I hit the lottery and buy this gorgeous thing!
This is usually flown by a single pilot which is pretty cool and it’s flown often as single.
no civilian plane should be flown single pilot.
@@tomdick693Do you think it is bad practice for F-16s to be flown with only one pilot?
@@buckeye2246 no, ill edit my answer for you.
I'm curious as to what deicing protection the aircraft has. Didn't see anything on the canard or the wings. I know it has inlet protections. Thanks.
Good question!Front there is none but the rear wing surface areas it does.
@@SirDrifto After a little sleuthing I found this: Along with the wings, the engine inlets and wing leading edge are deiced by bleed air; the tail does without, as do the props, which are heated directly by the engine exhaust blowing over them. I suspected it but was't completely sure. My company has given thought to making heated engine inlets for these aircraft. We make other deice systems for many aircraft. Thanks for the reply. Keep up the good work on the vids. Very informative.
I learned something new thanks to you, thats fascinating. Thanks for looking that up!
@@SirDrifto I have a friend who is the Director of Maintenance at an MRO that services the Piaggios. I've been around them frequently but hadn't looked at them that closely. Your video prompted me to take a closer look.
why the engine spit so much oil?
What kind or glasses is the pilot wearing?
should have that itt gauge replaced.
does Piaggio has auto pilot ?
Дайте полетать!!!
the plane is pretty loud inside
Raised the gear before a positive ROC...just failed the checkride.
I hope the pilot reports the gauge malfunction.
Low visibility but no snow on the runway.
.....looks like flying backwards, it also landed at Berlin - Tempelhof Airport (20 yrs. ago)....
Does that plane think it's something special just because it got wings on the nose??
"snowstorm" landing ?.............. = any idea what a real snowstorm looks like ?
Not gonna lie, the cockpit kinda looks old school though...
Very, very noisy……..they have been banned at some airports…..no thanks.
why cant new pilots today land ON the centerline of the runway?
when i did my ATP in a DC7 it was a PTS to land the nosewheel ON the centerline.....wtf?