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Wilson vs Mizuno. Which would you choose?
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- I have tested many irons and the test is down to 2 irons. A mizuno 245 and a Wilson dynaforged. Using the same shaft see how each iron is made and how each iron fared in the testing. Which would you chose?
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Hi Jim. Based on your dispersion stats and recovery results, I would definitely give the edge to the Wilson Dynapower Forged irons over the Mizuno's. Aim at the left side of the green and fire away!
Dyna forged*
thanks
I currently game the Mizuno JPX 921 HM and would be tempted by the Pro 245. However, the Wilson “Dynaforged” seem to offer a little more forgiveness and I really like the look and aesthetics. I think I personally would go with the Wilson “Dynaforged”
Wilson fan here, played the deep red tour irons for years- good as any out here for years- love the new Dyna forged!
I am a retired PGA Teaching professional. I am 76 years old. Where I worked , we were a Callaway fitting center. So, for the last 15 years I have been a Callaway pro. I am definitely changing over to the Mizuno 245. I like the Wilson, but there is nothing that feels as good as a Mizuno.
There's nothing that feels like a Mizuno when it comes to their forged cavity backs and blades. I still play a combo set of their MP18's and absolutely love them. While the new Pro 245's feel gratifying, they are not near as good of a feeling as their forged clubs. Of these 2 clubs here in the test I actually prefer the Wilson DP Forged better and if I were in the market they would be the ones I choose.
Or I might go with the Pro 243's as they feel better than the 245's.
@@kennyoliver2403 I am thinking about the Pro 243 too. I am in favor of forged clubs and their feel. At my age, I am looking for distance and forgiveness. I am not ruling out the forged Wilson irons completely. One of Pro friends just got a set.
@@richardblock5186 AskGolfNut does a lot of Mizuno comparisons and he compared the 243 and 245 and the 243 was not very far off from the 245's at all. Certainly, all great choices and very tough to narrow down.
I watch the GolfNut and did see his 243 and 245 reviews. I plan to go to the Mizuno Store at the Battery in Atlanta to be fitted when I ready to purchase clubs.
They are that close. I’d chose Wilson because of the cost difference, and more forgiveness.
thanks
Love the apron on at all times
Without watching the entire video yet.. I’ve hit both and Wilson Dyna Forged wins in every category… for me.
Thanks Cam
I ordered a set of 245s 4-PW the minute they were available this past winter. Got them with the stock Dynamic Gold S300 Mid 115 shafts. I changed out the grips for mid size grips and they are incredible for me. I've gained about a half a club length (due to the stronger lofts I'm sure) but my accuracy has improved a good amount too. I am very happy with the 245s and can see myself playing them for many years. My previous irons were the Mizuno MP-32 and MP-59, and Titleist 716CBs. They 245s are better than all of them. I was also considering Titleist T150 and T200s and the Taylor Made P-790s.
The Mid 115 is a good shaft for sure. I bit heavy for me. The mizuno 245 should give the results you just posted based on the prior clubs. a great set up to be sure
Wilson fan boy here Jim. I have a Mizuno fitting on the19th. Great video for my situation. I will bring it up on Monday. Thanks.
What I'm about to say might just muddy the waters more. I like the look of the Mizuno a little bit more, but I just bought a set of Wilson Dynapower, and I LOVE them. I'm a few months shy of 70 yrs old and getting back to the game after a 15 yr layoff. I'm hitting the ball now as long as I used to and the forgiveness is a god sent until I find my game again. That all being said, it came down to price for me, being retired and on a fixed income. Thanks for taking the time to read this. I'm a new subscriber who likes your honest, no BS presentation.
thank you sir
@@McGolf 👍
I love the Wilsons. they look amazing. The Mizunos looks clunky and chunky to my eye. Given similar performance, but The Dynaforge edging out the Mizunos, it comes down to looks and feel and of corse price. Good luck!
it will be a tough choice
I have been playing Mizuno irons since 1994. Started with MP14’s my latest set was the MP 20MMC’S. As a “seasoned” golfer, I was very excited about the release of the Pro line, hoping to gain back some lost distance with the 225’s, as I watched my handicap climb from the low single digits due to age related loss of speed. My thought was Mizuno whiffed on that model. It was bulbous and clunky looking and IMHO felt nothing like the Mizuno’s that I had come to know and love. Consequently, I surprised myself and moved to what I felt was the best hollow body club at the time, the latest generation TM P790. Lo and behold this year brought the 245 ‘s and all those issues were fixed. I am still toying with the idea of going back to Mizuno 245’s. I’ve demoed them many times and feel they are every bit as nice as the 790’s performance wise and just feel better. For grins I hit the Wilson’s at a demo day and was thoroughly impressed. One of the easiest clubs to hit that I’ve ever swung. They did have the same shaft that I have in my 790’s though, which may have a bit to do with that. I tested many, many shafts and settled on the KBS Tour Lites. For me they helped get the longer irons up in the air like the Nippons you mentioned and kept dispersion very low. Personally I would pick the Mizuno’ 245’s fitted with those shafts. I would be interested in your thought on the KBS’s. The Wilson’s would certainly be my first alternate though. Good luck with your decision.
I used the Wilson AI fitting app and the tour lites were recommended. I have them on the Mizuno 241s and hit them great, the distance loss due to the players loft was a bit more than I wanted. Like you I thought the 243 a bit stronger would be a great option
I’m gaming the Mizuno 245’s. They are the best irons I’ve ever owned. Never hit the Wilsons. I love the look, distance, feel, and forgiveness. They are expensive and that is the only downside to them.
Of the mizuno line the 245 is the best imo. I really like the forged HM model just cant square it up.
Great video Jim! I would like to see the Mizuno at 2* upright for a true apples to apples comparison. I play Mizuno 923 forged so I’m a little biased when it comes to Mizuno, but I do appreciate Wilson’s determination to push their designs and get back in the game like they were several years ago. They have truly stepped up their game as of late.
Hi Jim - Phil K from Austin. You built me a set of JPX 921 Forged PW-5i, the 4i is 921 HMB with KBS Max 75g shafts. I like the look of the 245s, and rented a set from Global Golf for 2 weeks. Those were std length (i'm 1/2"-1" longer), with 115g steel shafts. I really liked the feel of the 245s and especially the performance of the 4i - my HMB 4i is tough to get in the air - not true w/ the 245 4i. The Maltby ranks the 245s as slightly easier to hit that the JPX Forged. If I could justify buying a new set I'd go with the 245s. I'm playing with the idea of get the 4i just to start.
A few pro are using the 245 as a driving iron. If we put the 75 in it you might like it even more
I have hit Mizuno irons and some older Wilson Staff irons but none of the newer models and I absolutely loved the Mizuno’s . The grain flow forging process that Mizuno uses I believe to be the difference between their forged irons and other manufacturers. I’ve hit other forged irons from a variety of manufacturers and none of them matched up to the Mizuno’s for that buttery feel. I would love to hit some of the Wilson irons and the Dynapower Forged sound like they might just be the ticket from reviews that I’ve heard. Apparently the price point that Wilson has is well below most of the major brands so that is a very nice bonus when you are an old fart like me and watching your pennies closely. The next order of business when it comes to my golf would be to get tested for which ball would be most beneficial for me. I’m not as long in my advancing age as I used to be and have never had a problem with getting some height on my shots so I definitely don’t want a ball that has characteristics that make it fly higher than others so would like a ball that has a tendency to fly with a penetrating trajectory on well hit shots. The Titleist AVX is a ball interests me and they advertise that it has the characteristics I’m looking for but they are also expensive like the Pro V1’s so I’m hoping to find a ball that is s like the AVX but less expensive. Any suggestions are most welcomed.
With everything I have just watched, one of the things I feel strongly about is the ease of taking care of, I would vote for the Mizuno just due to the fact that it will be easy to maintain and keep beautiful throughout its lifespan in your bag.I personally use 223s think they are one of the most beautiful clubs made and I don’t think you can go wrong with them. Good luck look forward to hearing your conclusion.
the 223 and the new 243 are classic to be sure
I currently game MP 20 MMC and really considering Mizuno Pro 245 so I'm definitely a Mizuno fan. so it kills me to say that Wilson Staff seems to be a better fit for you based on how you describe recovery/forgiveness and the tightness of the trajectories of your shots. Great video!
you would certainly see an upgrade in performance going to the 245. We build them inhouse if interested
Both...lol. Presently hitting the Wilson Dynapower Forged and they are butter. High flight, great turf interaction. A true unicorn. But, still drawn to the 245's. Great year for irons..
I said in a video this year that this could be the year of the players distance irons and he were are lol
I feel the Wilson might be the one,. I’m guessing that was the one that’s more upright, possibly causing the slight right of center. Thanks sharing and I enjoy your videos.👏🏻👏🏻✌🏻👊🏻
I just had a conference with a production manager and mention how hard they are to bend.
I would go with the Wilson’s! I’ve played Mizuno JPX 900 forged, Cobra forged tec, and now I absolutely love my Wilson Staff CB’s! They have been the most consistent and best feeling irons.
the new CBs are awesome imo too
I had JPX HOT Metal Pros, got interested in Takomo, bought them, sold within a month, I like the look at the hollow body and was sold on 245s , the guy at the golf shop had me hit these as well as Srixon, I now have Wilson’s in the bag and luv them, to me hollow body clubs sound loud at impact, the forged soft feel and sound or lack of is fantastic, I went with KBS Tour lite s flex, plus they cost about 35% less
75 retired teaching pro South FL tried dyna power and dyna forged bought cb with kbs tour lite shafts extremely happy with my choice also took your advice played a month then bent them 1 degree stronger to good effect
Good stuff
Jim i am a Titleist man but if i were getting a new set definitely love the look of the Wilson. Mizuno make a great looking iron and a great club . Glad i am now in your shoes , you and only you have to make the decision, have fun and choose your preference
I don't know. The t150s are an absolute dream. It's easy to validate the 2k spent knowing I will be buried with them.
Titleist as really thrown down in the iron category and would loved to have tried them too but had keep my in house brands
Well Jim , golf is a game of how good are your bad ones , on that basis I would choose the Wilson iron and this is coming from a 30 year Mizuno user , regard Chris
That's so true. Yesterday was my second time out with my new Wilsons and I thinned an approach shot from 150 yds out. I was still cursing myself as I watched it roll up 5 feet from the pin. I was actually embarrassed to make the put for bird.
Exactly!!!!
I have played tried most of the major manufacturer irons and never significantly lowered my scores with any one of them. My length increases were always associated with loft changes or shaft length increases. When playing my traditional lofted irons I know I need to club up one club. I think I can say when taking time off from golf my Cobra One Length irons seem to score better quicker but after several rounds scoring seems to stabilize with all the iron brands I currently play with. I recently regripped and play my old set of Wilson Mendralla irons and shot one of my better rounds this year and their heads are half the size and offset my Taylormade and Callaway irons. I have always felt find the iron head you like the looks of at address but more importantly find the shaft that matches your swing.
Went for the Mizuno 245's because of the dispersion factor. It's not always about distance. Plus looks wise, the 245s are just some of the best looking irons out there IMHO and thus that gives me confidence.
I would think the shape and performance of a club has far more impact on confidence than the styling
@@MrMatthew262 Shape is Styling. And did you not read my comment about dispersion? That's performance.
I used to play Wilson FG 17 blades years ago. Always been a Wilson fan. They make great clubs. And these are always very good value for money. I’ll go Wilson.
Wilson for the win. Numbers are just as good, with a slight edge in forgiveness. Adjust them a degree or two upright, and you lose those shots that bleed off to your left.
Been playing MP64s for several years. Just changed to MP245’s with NS Pro shafts … amazing combo. Never had an easier time with my long irons and the consistency and extra distance with the set is unreal. Total respect for Wilson Pro as that would have been a contender if I wasn’t a Mizuno junkie at this time.
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First off let's address the "Nothing feels like a Mizuno" tag line. In the late 90's when forging houses were closing down in the US due to the demand for cast cavity backs & environmental regulation Mizuno was one of the few companies to offer a forged, carbon steel blade. Payne Stewart loved the US Forged RAM Tour Grind and showed Mizuno reps an 8-Iron asking them to make a set like that for him. Ads from the time show the RAM was GRAIN FLOW FORGED (hosel and blade forged in 1 piece as opposed to forging the head separately and Spin welding the hosel on later, creating a break in the natural metallic grain structure). The clubs were Duplex chrome plated (meaning that there was an underlayer for increased feel). Sound familiar? Mizuno, in effect, reversed engineered the tour grind and released the famous MP33 line based on what they learned. Yes nothing feels like a club that is TRUE FORGED in this manner (whether Japanese OR American). That DOES NOT apply to all the other clubs they make with things like hollow construction or stainless steel faces.
Having said that, being as how they are so close I would base my choice on this: "which club is going to increase demand for McGolf custom club services? Like the pros, you should be a rolling billboard on the course. The clubs in your bag should be custom fit for you and provide a talking point to showcase your skills to the public. Which club company supplies a greater variety of components direct to you? Which one allows you to provide a better fit across a variety of skill levels? If both are equal, which brand has a greater markup for you?
Final thought. Mizuno has a great following BUT (as far as I have seen) they have almost ZERO tour visibility right now. Yes, PGACLUBTRACKER lists only 3 current tour players with Wilson Irons & 5 current tour players with Mizuno iron sets in their bags. The difference is I DO see Wilson bags on tour but I have NOT SEEN a MIZUNO bag in some time). Wilson is gaining VISIBILITY slowly but surely. Just 1 week ago Brendan Steele won 4 million in Adelaide while (virtual unknown) Martin Trainer tied for the lead at the Zurich Classic using Wilson clubs.
All things considered, I give the edge to Wilson.
Great comment with great value! Thanks!
I ve been fitted for a set a hm pros last year being a lefty the 225 weren t available and i was pleasantly surprised to see(not my wife) that the 245 were this year,so i am getting fitted for the 245,ater trying srixon,wilson,etc ,the feel of the mizunos are amazing and,being 60 years old and having played most of my golfing years with forged irons(blades),i wanted something equivalent but more forgiving,plus nothing feels buttery like mizunos.
My first iron set were Wilson Staff's (1974) with the sweet spot size of a pebble. Now days it has been Mizuno for many years and several generations > will always play Mizuno (currently MP25 but looking at 245 or 243 now).
Hi JIm: It is tough to make that choice because the lie angles weren't the same, but if I had to make a choice for you I would choose the Wilson Dynapower Forged because of the forgiveness and the fact that you spoke of confidence with them. In any case the choice should be for you and what you feel as correct.
Jim, I would pick the Wilson irons, mainly for the recovery and forgiveness factors!
Thanks Doug
Great review Wilson for me.
Gone from the mp225 to the Dynapower.
It should be on the list for testing if looking for new irons.
The current series of Wilson clubs is likely to finally elevate them into the category of the top golf club brands.
I played an earlier version of the Mizuno and didn't like them, ended up with the D9 forged. The Wilsons are very forgiving for a relatively small head and the power holes really do work!
If the Dynapower forged are as good as the D9 I'm for the Wilsons, no question.
Good stuff Jim! I have never been fitted I usually buy off the rack, reg., RH, I’m 5’9”, 71 years old. I use PXG XCor2 6-GW, I really like the look and feel and performance, 2, 4, 5, hybrids from Cleveland and Cobra Fly Z driver.
Sounds great!
Hi Jim, Stan from Central Florida, here.
I’ve always been a fan of the Mizuno spinner irons from previous decades. So I gave a try to JPX 921s. My problem with them was that they were too beautiful to use. I didn’t even want to get them dirty, lol.
With me it’s how the club feels 😂 after I’ve put the ball out there.
Back about 20 years ago, when I could finally afford a decent set of clubs, I chose Ping BeCu ISI irons. Then, tried a whole bunch of other brands.
Now, I’ve ended up back where I started, but with one change. I’m now using Ping ISI-K irons (game improvement) irons. I’m older, using a Senior flex graphite shaft and Golf Pride MCC+4 grips.
To summarize: While your stats may be slightly better with the Wilson’s, I would suggest thinking about which clubs feel better after the hit. Because that’s when you’re gonna look forward to using those irons.
Distance and accuracy is important, but to me what is important is how it feels after you’ve hit the ball.
I played mostly Ping until I tried the Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro. Now I’m onto the newest version and I believe pound for pound these are the best game improvement irons out there. The feel and performance is phenomenal
I’ve played for nearly sixty years and come from decades of playing forged irons but the Ping Eye 2 came along right at the time I started to need more help but now I prefer the Mizuno
I haven’t hit a Wilson since I demoed the C300 forged. At least I think that’s what the model was called. I liked the look but didn’t care for it otherwise. I do think a lot of the new Wilson products look super sharp and that is what gets me to try so who knows??? I’d certainly consider but am a big fan of the roadrunner brand.
Thanks James for this review.. I was also thinking about these two clubs and still might lean to the Mizuno, mainly because they are made in the same place for the past 50 years and I think that they hit the mark with the 245....
there is nothing wrong with the 245
Perfect video. Down to wilson shaft dyna forged or mizuno 225. Pro said Wilson irons very low spinning. Would advise against. Not sure what to do
Wilson fan boy. I currently use the CBs, had the 923 Tours and the CBs are much more forgiving though feel just as good. For your numbers I think that lateral dispersion is more golfer related, but front to back is where the club will show its prowess. The Forged were more consistent and less drop-off with "not so great strikes" that should be the biggest performance metric. Full disclosure: I have a set of D7 Forged which I love, just a little to strongly lofted and not as consistent as the CBs.
Really tough choice. So many good irons out now it can drive one crazy deciding between them.
Interesting your remark about the soles on the dynaforged because I found the D9’s to be a bit “bouncy” off the turf. I’d recommend trying both out on grass first before deciding.
The 245 are very helpful irons in the 4-8 iron but are practically blades in the 9-GW so something to consider. The Dynaforged are going to be more forgiving throughout the set
Also the feel is going to have to go to Mizuno here as the power holes in the dynaforged feel like crap. The 8-GW feel phenomenal but those powerholes add a very hard feel to them.
I think it depends on your "normal" miss. The 245's seem to be slightly more forgiving on toe strikes (due to all that tungsten), where the Wilson's might be slightly more forgiving on heel and low misses. Even though "nothing feels like a Mizuno", I liked the feel of the Wilsons.... of course that's subjective to every individual. I had a few "jumpers" with the 245's and didn't notice any with the Wilsons. One more thing..... Price..... does that matter? If so..... choose the Wilsons and don't look back.
Hi Jim...DynaForged all the way. Tighter dispersion, more distance, more forgiving and way better looks....and probably a lot cheaper.
Dyna forged is what I play but as the other commenter said you can’t go wrong with either one. Dyna Forged straight and 1/2 club longer than what I previously hit
I bought d9 forged after hitting mizuno forged jpx and I haven’t been happier. But in all honesty I don’t think anyone would go wrong with either
I got miura cb 302 and mizuno pro 245 and the feel and forgiveness is very good on the mizuno and they look great
With all due respect to Mizuno, Wilson Staff! That Mizuno feel is about their blades, not so much in hollow body irons.
I currently gaming Hot Metal Pros was playing 921 forge but needed the distance 76 and not a teaching pro but truly believe Mizuno are the best out there for feel and consistency
Jim what graphite shaft would you pair with the Mizuno 245? I Currently play modus 120 s (soft stepped). looking for graphite with similar profile and weight.
Jim, my vote is for Mizuno. They were straighter, 2 yds less carry. Doesn't matter. Utmost respect for Wilson, but Mizuno quality is better, second only to Miura in my humble opinion
Thanks for your content! I am in the waiting for my MP245s that should arrive this week or next. At the fitting, there were no Wilsons though. But I can say the 245 felt like nothing else plus, they are so cool looking as the blade brothers! Either way I know you be good with the irons😅, it come down to taste, Chocolate or Vanilla 🤷♂️
I decided on the Wilson’s. Beautiful clubs
If you've narrowed it to those two club heads, you've weeded out the clubs with poor distance and dispersion, unsightly looks, lesser feel and so forth, meaning you could put either set in your bag.
Question is which set of club heads will provide you with the best performance, the best scores? There you go. Knocking an iron shot stiff is the best feeling ever. BTW, you already know that 2* Upright is a big change in flight direction. Adjust your Wilson Dynaforge 1* upright than 2* upright and see how that impacts direction. Pretty sure it will bring that Dynaforge dispersion group inside the Mizuno's. Also, remember distance dispersion is a big deal as you play more difficult courses with hazards that have to be carried. I believe you said the 245's had a lot more short shots in the 160's than the Wilson's.
Final thought. So often I've seen golf buddies lured to prestigious irons and several months later, after scores have not improved or worsened, they've gone back to something that helps their golf game. I've done this myself with a lovely set of Mizuno MP32's. My strike wasn't precise enough for really great distance control. I've also played lesser clubs that didn't suit me either. Finding that just right balance between some game improvement features and performance can be a little tricky.
Golf is a never ending search for better shots which leads to better scores and more enjoyable rounds. Good luck.
well said sir
Great video! Glad you finally made a decision. ❤
thanks lol
There is an old saying " it is not how good your good shot is , it is how good is your bad shot" given this I believe the wilson is better.
I say that same thing frequently during fittings
Since you asked. Go with the Wilsons. But for me I’d consider a good set of Ben Hogans, PTX Tour. Hot off the face, longer, and if you hit well enough, very narrow spreads. Hollow body irons are less accurate for me. And I’m 72 and still hit my Hogan Magnum blades.
Based on dispersion, I would choose the Wilson irons. I don't really get tied up on looks at address, I'm looking at the ball and my target area ahead of the ball that is the bottom of my swing.
Given the shot pattern of each club head I’d have to go with the one that felt better to me. Generally speaking, if I like the way a club feels I’ll tend play better with it, if I don’t it tends to distract me from my game. Good luck on your choice.
its the Wilson all day long by the numbers, and I think its more forgiving. I am very surprised you are not going with ana accra shaft though, I am thinking of making the trek down there from Detroit area to get fitted for accra shafts in my whole bag and get fitted for jumbo max grips.
I switched from the Mizuno 919 Forged into the Wilson. I found the W/S more forgiving on toe strikes which is my miss
True d9 looks wide but behind the ball it seems small. These new ones look winners 🎉
I may be a little prejudice because I have the Mizuno but that would be my vote!
Wilson makes a great iron for sure however I believe Mizuno will be a better fit.
With the straighter spray pattern you're showing, perhaps the 245's. Do you need the forgiveness of the Wilson? If not, 245's. They look great, too! Thanks for sharing Jim. Good luck
Since I bought my Mizuno irons from McGolf, I vote for Mizuno 😅
well said lol
Question, is there a significant difference in forgiveness between the Wilson Dynapower and the Dynapower Forged? Looking to upgrade from my old Cobra S3 max.
Wilson has a club head to fit everyone ⛳🏌️
Jim,
I need help choosing between Edel SLS or Wishon EQ1-NX. Can you please advise.
I also have a question about shaft choice. Should Paderson Kinetixx ONE be a good choice?
Thanks.
Tighter dispersion rules the day, Jim. You know what I'm going to say...Lol! The other factor is turf interaction. Is one better than other? I'm sure a few tweeks could dial that in if needed.
I would go Mizuno but I’m a big fan of their clubs
They do make a great iron to be sure
Jim, have you had a chance to use the device by Mizuno called their shaft analyzer? I used it in a fitting for the the245’s and it spit out a recommended shaft and lie angle given my swing characteristics. Thanks.
After listening your discussion and looking at the numbers, I'd say the Wilson is your winner. Slightly longer, slightly more spin, better dispersion, slightly higher, and as you mentioned better on mishits. The feel is a bit more to Mizuno, but if the Wilson feels fine to you, I think they're your winner.
Wilson fan here, currently playing TaylorMade Burner Plus Irons, but switching to Cleveland HB Turbo Hybrid set. Not happy even with doing that. My first set was Ram Jr. Senator’s at 10, my second set at 14 started me on the road to being a WIlson Fan, Wilson Sam Snead One Hundreds woods and irons. My third set was my Dad’s 76 WIlson Bullet Crease Staffs woods and irons. I’ve been buying old Wilson blades ever since. Owned a lot clubs in between what I’ve listed and currently playing. My eye has been caught by the New Wilson stuff lately as I want to buy, build or hav3 built what I call my forever set. At 57 as a former Maltby trained club maker I’m torn between the Maltby line up and the Wilson lineup. My decision is which company and what model? Had health issues and lot swing speed and distance. I would say if it’s not Maltby, then the Wilson’s. Your shop is close to me and I have told my wife I may come down and get fitted and have you build them.
245 feels really good, I got the 243s and I love them
Problem for Jim (and me) is Mizuno is less lefty-friendly than some of the other brands in terms of which models are available. 243s are RH only. 245s are available to lefties. I played MP60s for years. As I aged I realized I needed something more forgiving and gave myself a 70th B'day present 3 years ago of a fitting and new clubs. I REALLY wanted the JPX921 HM Pros but only the regular HMS were available to me. The Taylormade Sim 2 Max seemed to fit me better (I kept an open mind). I wish I had waited 2 more years as the JPX 923 HM pros DO come lefty. I made the mistake of hitting them in a simulator and am wondering why I haven't bought them and sold my Sims.
@@irahartoch1075 I'm turning 50 this year and realized this is probably the last chance i have to play players irons before i need to move into a players distance iron again as i get older. The 245s give me hope though because moving into a club that gives you some help doesn't have to be completely devoid of feel and be a shovel.
new subscriber here. do you know what the typical swing weight is for the 245? Mizuno does not cover this in their specs. Thanks.
Just curious, has anyone heard of or tried/compared the Takomo 101 or 101T irons to these Mizunos or Wilson’s?
all they have to do is send a set and viola!
Next time you test, remove all your 'good' blows and keep the miss hits. That way you can see how bad your bad is. That way you can choose the less bad good one. The dynapower is tighter. Thats my choice.
And then there is "Bang for the Buck." 😂
I would take the Wilson if they were in a satin finish. I'm not too fond of highly polished chrome, so that it would be Mizuno in the end.
Sounds like the Wilson is your club. It has more speed, more distance more spin and more forgiveness. It has a better front to back dispersion and only barely lost in side to side dispersion. To me, that sounds like more GIR's with longer putts vs being off the green. So are you better with a wedge or a putter?
Mizuno fan here, but I can't overcome the price difference... would take the Wilsons despite being to chromy for my taste
i am thinking about getting the Wilson Dynapower Forged at the end of the year currently I have the Stealth irons with Ventus red graphite shafts , i do like them alot i have never tried the Mizuno so i probably don't know what i am missing lol plus i believe the Wilson are cheaper in price My vote Jim is go with the WILSON reason being as we get older a little more foregiveness is appreciated be well and be safe cheers from Vulcan Canada
thanks you, hope the weather lets you get out soon
@@McGolf weather has been awesome again last 3 rounds were 76 , 77 , 72 love my mini driver off the deck
I play the JPX 923 HM Pro and am considering the JPX 923 Forged as the HM Pro is just too strong in loft and I would love the forged face. This Dynapower seems like a more comparable iron to the 923 Forged than the Pro Line. I wonder how that comparison would look? I am curious about that shaft you are talking about. I wish I could test it .....
The shaft is the nippon neo 950, The forged head will have slightly less offset and slightly weaker loft and a slightly narrower sole than the pro model
It really is a tough choice! May come down to the forgiveness you mentioned.
I agree
The Mizuno for me creates a tighter dispersion similar distance and similar forgiveness. No brainer win for Mizuno. Not complicated.
Hmmm, as both clubs perform very similar it would fall to price. Therefore, Wilson for the win.
good call
Mizuno for feel and looks for me .
Hello Jim I am currently gaming ai smoke irons I switched from paradym x irons I first I wasn’t liking them so I special ordered a set of dyna powered forged I ordered march 29 I have still yet not received them it’s taking a long time I don’t understand why it’s taking so long I wish I could tell more about irons hopefully I will receive soon
Great review would go for the Wilson great looks and that price. Now Jim how would you rate the Ping 530i and Taylormade 790 on forgiveness. I’m a senior 15/16 handicapper and my stats for a 7 irons is 140 yards carry, swing speed 74, ball speed 94 , launch 23 degrees and descent 42-46 degrees all based on game improvement sector. Would love to move to players distance iron but want forgiveness, distance, and feel. Many thanks!
I would have to see how each one preformed on 3/4 shots and knock down shots to pick a clear winner. My guess is Wilson with the less flexible face will work better
PS - Maltby does not have a MPF for the new Dynapower Forged yet.
Both clubs seem like a good fit. But looks and feel carry a lot of weight when you’re actually on the course. I personally don’t like a clicking sound at impact, it leads to thinking that impact is off. Or that the club face is damaged. And the reputation of a quality built club means consistency over time. But price does make a difference.
A suggestion...try getting out of your head, into your body and out on the course. Sometimes the specs and simulated performance get in our way. Put both brands of your typical go to clubs in a bag and go out and play your favorite course. Forget about the "performance characteristics" of each club, have some fun. By the end of the round (or sooner) you will know in your gut what clubs you prefer. Look, feel, confidence, sound, some unexplained tug towards one over the other. You will know.
It would come down to feel with equal numbers. I’m not a fan of “clicky” but if it gave more feedback or noticeable more forgiveness then very tough call.
The wilson all day long,beauty,forgiveness and performance.
BTW..245's for me. Sexy and they work. NOTHING feels like a Mizuno!
Wilson, because of the look and the forgiveness.