I've been playing a set of 2014 Wilson FG V4 irons for many years and decided it might be time to upgrade. I just got back from local shop and had every intention of picking up a set of close out 2022 D9 Forged irons. I swung those and then swung the 2024 CB. WOW! Unbelievable difference. I also swung the dynapowers which were also better than the D9's, but I ended up ordering a set of CB's. Can't wait for the snow to melt. Like and subscribed.
Thanks for the video. I game the prior gen Wilson Staff CB. There are amazing for me. I love that you jacked these 2 degrees stronger. I'm often wondered if I should try getting mine bent 2 degrees stronger to gain a few extra yards. I carry my 7 155 yards. I hit them so well and straight, I've been afraid to mess with them though.
Great review! I would definitely flirt with the idea of strengthening the loft by two degrees as well. So is the Tri-brace system gone or is Wilson just not advertising it? Obviously it seems like it’s not there at first glance but I don’t know. Same thing with the tungsten weighting. I will admit that the omission of both of those features makes the club look WAY better in my opinion than the previous iteration. Not that the previous version was ugly but this model looks cleaner. I am looking to upgrade from my game improvement irons and these are an option but I would like to buy the previous version because it’s cheaper. Is the new model much better than the old one?
Thanks for the excellent review. I tried the cb’s at PGA superstore because of your excellent review. The looks, feel, and dispersion was excellent amazing. Do you think a 11 handicap can play this set? (4-pw). Keep the reviews coming and love the weekly show as well.
You'll be fine. People over exaggerate handicap and clubs that you "have" to play. If you strike your irons decent and they felt good when you tried them, you'll be fine
Okay Jim, you've got me slobbering over the CB's. My playing partner hits a Callaway Rogue ST Pro with Dynamic Gold S300 shafts. From time to time he'll put one of his clubs in my hands and says "hit this one." What I've noticed is I hit them most times, as far as I hit my current irons, and with better accuracy. I also produce better trajectories with them.; a little higher than with my own clubs. What I really notice with them is how balanced they feel in my hands from club to club. They don't feel overly heavy in the clubhead. I realize they are heavier and stiffer shafts than I play, but they don't feel like it. How would a DG S300 pair with the CB heads. Would they feel as balanced as the Rogue ST Pros that my buddy lets me swing? Thank you for taking the time to answer and thanks for this great video!
The Rogue st pro is a different animal. It is a hollow body iron and closer to the D9 forged instead of the CB. More forgiving possibly stronger lofted etc. The DG shaft are a good pair with the CB. I believe it is wilson's go to shaft. it is also heavier than your current shaft.
I go to make a fiting in a few days with Wilson I am handicap 10 between 15 And I am senior shaft graphite for me Question what do you think about thé descent angle. Is it good ? It is not between 45 and 50 degré to stop the ball on the Green
When you adjusted the lofts two degrees stronger, how much of an effect did that have on the bounce angle? Is that something one should be concerned about? I currently have the D7 forged right now and they are the best irons I have ever had but I am torn between the new CB's and the Dynapwr forged for my next set. IF the distances are comparable I may go to CB's as my ball striking is certainly good enough and I love the thought of a little softer feel and a little more workability. Thoughts? Thanks in advance! (Whichever I choose to do I will get professionally fit)
Just hit and ordered the cb’s! They are amazing! Shut up and take my money! Jim if I strengthen the lofts should I adjust the lie? I’m a sweeper if the club with pretty neutral swing path. Thanks! Great review!
These are beautiful irons, I just love the way that Wilson combine modern tech and touches of retro look. Of course the fact that they are very shiny also helps!! MB is probably beyond my ability but the CB is just about perfect for me, I would love to test it against my current i210s and the Blueprint S irons (also one of the prettiest irons out there). Only concern is that the spin rates for a 6i with the CBs seem a bit too low, although that may be James' swing, I would want a 6i spin rates 5000-5200 rpm with a 28 degree loft (on basis James did strengthen them by 2 degrees). Personally, I do not see the need to jack the loft although I can understand why that might make them appeal to more people.
Just hit the Dynapwr forged and they look and feel great too. I currently play the d9 forged and decided to keep the d9 forged as a backup and ordered the CB’s. Try both irons side by side! Both are amazing feeling irons!
You can order both of these clubs with up to 2 degrees stronger or weaker in lofts and I assume since they are pretty soft you could probably get 3-4 degrees? What do you think is the max loft you can bend with these?
Jim. The comments are turned off on your newest “DynaForged” review. It’s set to made for kids. ( great reviews on that and this. When can I order them ? ) 😅
The CB sole is a bit wider than the MC for sure. The actual radius of the sole is very good no flats. the leading edge is very rounded too. The 2 degrees should not be as noticeable for golfers that take normal diviots, however if a golfer is a big time divot taker they may not like it.
How do you think the CB head would pair with the Modus 105 in Stiff flex? This shaft is only 3.5 grams heavier than what I now play. Is the stiff of the Modus 105 not so stiff feeling and would it help balance the head weight well?
Curious how the CB 2 iron and 3 iron will perform in comparison to all the driving irons out there on the market today, as most other OEMs don't offer 2 and 3 irons in their normal iron set. Seems to be just Wilson now. BTW, is there any hollowness in the CB? Or is the face just as solid as the MB?
On the CB’s. You commented that with the weak loft you would need some speed for these to preform. Question, what if the lofts went down a degree or two?
@@McGolf I was getting around 5200 spin with the stock 7 iron CB at a local retailer. It had the stock, stiff, DG Mid. “If” we went 2° stronger, what type of shaft adjustment would you think is needed?
The new dynapower forged is the replacement of D9 forged. The CB's are smaller and thinner top line and are less forgiving with weaker lofts. The D9 7 iron is 30.5 degrees and the stock CB is 34 degrees. That is a huge difference. YOu could get the CB's bent stronger.
I wish they would go 33 degrees of loft in the 7 iron. That way you could easily go 34 or 32 without changing bounce much. I don't think many people would be bending them weak from 34 degree in the 7 iron.
@ultimatejay How much bounce does the average 4, 5, and 6 iron have? It may not matter much in a pitching wedge that has 10 degrees of bounce, but it does make a difference. To me anyway.
Would like to shorten my driver shaft by 1”. My shaft is 45 1/2 inch with grip. Would like it at 44”. I know the flex may change and swing will be about 12 points. My driver is a Callaway Rouge ST Max, with a Fujikara Ventus Blue 5-r. Driver is at D1 right now. What should I expect with swing weight and performance.
What’s the modern obsession with strengthening lofts. I get you can get more distance but what’s the point. Just go from say a 7 iron to a 6 if you need more distance. All that happens by jacking the lofts is that most players can’t hit the longer irons. This is evident in that most sets don’t contain a 3 iron and some even stop at a 5 iron. Jacking the lofts also screws up the bottom end meaning you need more wedges to get correct distance separation. All marketing bullshit so they can say their 7 irons go further than somebody else’s or somebody can say wow I hit my 7 iron 180 yards. No you can’t it’s really a 6 or a 5 iron. I’ll stick to traditional lofts and happily take my 3 iron out of the bag.
Because you're using a shorter club that is easier to hit. shorter clubs will always be easier to hit consistently. Not everyone has 90-100mph club head speed. Why does a 7 iron have to be 34 degrees? Those lofts were made ages ago. I hit my 8 iron a lot better than my 7 iron. Now imagine hitting your 8 iron the same distance as a 7 iron. Distance is distance. Makes a lot more sense to use a club that is easier to hit the longer distances. Get the obsession now?
Here's the case for me and blades, if you play for fun and dont care, dont buy them and hit these ugly chunks of metal around a park. If you love he game, get blades in your bag and lap up every sweet hit till you can't swing no more. I live once and I aint playing that so called "game improvement" junk. Want to improve, improve your strike.
I've been playing a set of 2014 Wilson FG V4 irons for many years and decided it might be time to upgrade. I just got back from local shop and had every intention of picking up a set of close out 2022 D9 Forged irons. I swung those and then swung the 2024 CB. WOW! Unbelievable difference. I also swung the dynapowers which were also better than the D9's, but I ended up ordering a set of CB's. Can't wait for the snow to melt. Like and subscribed.
Excellent review!!! and that bending 2 degree is spot on for me!
Ive used Wilson Staff FG Tour 100 blades since 2017. I love them
Nice review. Classically beautiful clubs. That's something that I've really been drawn to the last few years.
thanks the dynapower forged is next
There is a nice set of heads on ebay
It would be interesting to compare the CB to the previous model. The previous model had tungsten weighting, the new one does not look like it does.
Very nicely done! May have to take the plunge and make the two hour trip one way to test them..
Feels like the term Staff is analogous to what another company calls proto. Implying brought to us by tour players.
I love it. Considering a switch!
Thanks for the video. I game the prior gen Wilson Staff CB. There are amazing for me. I love that you jacked these 2 degrees stronger. I'm often wondered if I should try getting mine bent 2 degrees stronger to gain a few extra yards. I carry my 7 155 yards. I hit them so well and straight, I've been afraid to mess with them though.
Great review, nice looking clubs.
Thanks 👍
I play Wilson D9 Forged there unbelievable irons
Great video!❤ great photos!😂
thanks
Great review! I would definitely flirt with the idea of strengthening the loft by two degrees as well.
So is the Tri-brace system gone or is Wilson just not advertising it? Obviously it seems like it’s not there at first glance but I don’t know. Same thing with the tungsten weighting. I will admit that the omission of both of those features makes the club look WAY better in my opinion than the previous iteration. Not that the previous version was ugly but this model looks cleaner. I am looking to upgrade from my game improvement irons and these are an option but I would like to buy the previous version because it’s cheaper. Is the new model much better than the old one?
Thanks for the excellent review. I tried the cb’s at PGA superstore because of your excellent review. The looks, feel, and dispersion was excellent amazing. Do you think a 11 handicap can play this set? (4-pw). Keep the reviews coming and love the weekly show as well.
You'll be fine. People over exaggerate handicap and clubs that you "have" to play. If you strike your irons decent and they felt good when you tried them, you'll be fine
What are the negatives of jacking the lofts? Ie. change in bounce?
Great review, Jim! Had been looking forward to your thoughts on the new Wilson release.
Glad you like it
Okay Jim, you've got me slobbering over the CB's. My playing partner hits a Callaway Rogue ST Pro with Dynamic Gold S300 shafts. From time to time he'll put one of his clubs in my hands and says "hit this one." What I've noticed is I hit them most times, as far as I hit my current irons, and with better accuracy. I also produce better trajectories with them.; a little higher than with my own clubs. What I really notice with them is how balanced they feel in my hands from club to club. They don't feel overly heavy in the clubhead. I realize they are heavier and stiffer shafts than I play, but they don't feel like it. How would a DG S300 pair with the CB heads. Would they feel as balanced as the Rogue ST Pros that my buddy lets me swing? Thank you for taking the time to answer and thanks for this great video!
The Rogue st pro is a different animal. It is a hollow body iron and closer to the D9 forged instead of the CB. More forgiving possibly stronger lofted etc. The DG shaft are a good pair with the CB. I believe it is wilson's go to shaft. it is also heavier than your current shaft.
@@McGolf Would the DG S300 feel as well balanced with the CB clubhead as it does with the Rogue ST Pro?
I go to make a fiting in a few days with Wilson
I am handicap 10 between 15
And I am senior shaft graphite for me
Question what do you think about thé descent angle. Is it good ?
It is not between 45 and 50 degré to stop the ball on the Green
When you adjusted the lofts two degrees stronger, how much of an effect did that have on the bounce angle? Is that something one should be concerned about? I currently have the D7 forged right now and they are the best irons I have ever had but I am torn between the new CB's and the Dynapwr forged for my next set. IF the distances are comparable I may go to CB's as my ball striking is certainly good enough and I love the thought of a little softer feel and a little more workability. Thoughts? Thanks in advance! (Whichever I choose to do I will get professionally fit)
Just hit and ordered the cb’s! They are amazing! Shut up and take my money! Jim if I strengthen the lofts should I adjust the lie? I’m a sweeper if the club with pretty neutral swing path. Thanks! Great review!
If your a sweeper a flatter lie angle may be need regardless. Strengthening the loft won’t impact it .
These are beautiful irons, I just love the way that Wilson combine modern tech and touches of retro look. Of course the fact that they are very shiny also helps!!
MB is probably beyond my ability but the CB is just about perfect for me, I would love to test it against my current i210s and the Blueprint S irons (also one of the prettiest irons out there). Only concern is that the spin rates for a 6i with the CBs seem a bit too low, although that may be James' swing, I would want a 6i spin rates 5000-5200 rpm with a 28 degree loft (on basis James did strengthen them by 2 degrees).
Personally, I do not see the need to jack the loft although I can understand why that might make them appeal to more people.
I really liked the last model but this one is the notch up for sure
Any concerns with bending the muscle back 2 degrees strong?
I saw a picture of a new Dynapower forged CB that’s being released soon.
I just completed the testing on this and it will be release shortly keep watch!
Just hit the Dynapwr forged and they look and feel great too. I currently play the d9 forged and decided to keep the d9 forged as a backup and ordered the CB’s. Try both irons side by side! Both are amazing feeling irons!
You can order both of these clubs with up to 2 degrees stronger or weaker in lofts and I assume since they are pretty soft you could probably get 3-4 degrees? What do you think is the max loft you can bend with these?
Jim. The comments are turned off on your newest “DynaForged” review. It’s set to made for kids. ( great reviews on that and this. When can I order them ? ) 😅
Hey boss! Any chance you know if Wilson decided to make the utility iron for left-handed players? Thank you good sir!!!!
Im adding a 1/2 inch to the shaft and swapping to KBS Tour 120 gram. Can I still step on them and by how much? 2 degrees still?
Any thoughts on the CB vs the Titleist t150? Especially forgiveness wise? Does all that tungsten do much? Thanks!
2 degrees stronger also takes away 2 degrees of bounce, Jim, making it easier to dig with them. What are the measured bounces of the CB's?
The CB sole is a bit wider than the MC for sure. The actual radius of the sole is very good no flats. the leading edge is very rounded too. The 2 degrees should not be as noticeable for golfers that take normal diviots, however if a golfer is a big time divot taker they may not like it.
@@McGolf Thank you for the response, Jim. Now I'm pondering...Lol😂
How do you think the CB head would pair with the Modus 105 in Stiff flex? This shaft is only 3.5 grams heavier than what I now play. Is the stiff of the Modus 105 not so stiff feeling and would it help balance the head weight well?
Curious how the CB 2 iron and 3 iron will perform in comparison to all the driving irons out there on the market today, as most other OEMs don't offer 2 and 3 irons in their normal iron set. Seems to be just Wilson now. BTW, is there any hollowness in the CB? Or is the face just as solid as the MB?
The driving irons will certainly be a better choice for getting the ball up as they are more designed with wider soles and lower CGs
On the CB’s. You commented that with the weak loft you would need some speed for these to preform. Question, what if the lofts went down a degree or two?
Then you would be ok that’s what i did to the CBs in comparison to the MBs and worked great
@@McGolf I was getting around 5200 spin with the stock 7 iron CB at a local retailer. It had the stock, stiff, DG Mid. “If” we went 2° stronger, what type of shaft adjustment would you think is needed?
Did you even watch the video? SMH
@@ultimatejay maybe you should slow down and read the question instead of shaking your head.
@@jaautre7482 he Literally did what you said in the video. I shake my head again.
How does it compare to the previous model .
A little softer and a bit more forgiving
Hi Jim, how would you compare the cb with the d9 forged ? Thx
The new dynapower forged is the replacement of D9 forged. The CB's are smaller and thinner top line and are less forgiving with weaker lofts. The D9 7 iron is 30.5 degrees and the stock CB is 34 degrees. That is a huge difference. YOu could get the CB's bent stronger.
Beautiful irons nò doubt continuing the great wilson tradition. Pity they leave the logo so empty looking with the ws insignia. It was classic.
Thanks
What is the MOI of the cavity back 6 iron?
I dont have a measured number it will be more than the CB and less then the dynaforged model
I wish they would go 33 degrees of loft in the 7 iron. That way you could easily go 34 or 32 without changing bounce much. I don't think many people would be bending them weak from 34 degree in the 7 iron.
You can order them with up to 2 degrees strong or weak. No wishing required
@@ultimatejay
That changes the bounce and turff interaction.
@@whocares3986 very little at 2 degrees.
@ultimatejay
How much bounce does the average 4, 5, and 6 iron have? It may not matter much in a pitching wedge that has 10 degrees of bounce, but it does make a difference. To me anyway.
@@whocares3986 they only irons you need bounce on are wedges all other irons you should be hitting ball first.
Would like to shorten my driver shaft by 1”. My shaft is 45 1/2 inch with grip. Would like it at 44”. I know the flex may change and swing will be about 12 points. My driver is a Callaway Rouge ST Max, with a Fujikara Ventus Blue 5-r. Driver is at D1 right now. What should I expect with swing weight and performance.
What’s the modern obsession with strengthening lofts. I get you can get more distance but what’s the point. Just go from say a 7 iron to a 6 if you need more distance. All that happens by jacking the lofts is that most players can’t hit the longer irons. This is evident in that most sets don’t contain a 3 iron and some even stop at a 5 iron. Jacking the lofts also screws up the bottom end meaning you need more wedges to get correct distance separation. All marketing bullshit so they can say their 7 irons go further than somebody else’s or somebody can say wow I hit my 7 iron 180 yards. No you can’t it’s really a 6 or a 5 iron. I’ll stick to traditional lofts and happily take my 3 iron out of the bag.
Because you're using a shorter club that is easier to hit. shorter clubs will always be easier to hit consistently. Not everyone has 90-100mph club head speed. Why does a 7 iron have to be 34 degrees? Those lofts were made ages ago. I hit my 8 iron a lot better than my 7 iron. Now imagine hitting your 8 iron the same distance as a 7 iron. Distance is distance. Makes a lot more sense to use a club that is easier to hit the longer distances. Get the obsession now?
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Here's the case for me and blades, if you play for fun and dont care, dont buy them and hit these ugly chunks of metal around a park. If you love he game, get blades in your bag and lap up every sweet hit till you can't swing no more. I live once and I aint playing that so called "game improvement" junk. Want to improve, improve your strike.
Agree 100%.