I had absolutely no luck shooting acrylic emulsion paint when I first got my Earlex HVLP. Polyurethane varnish was a little easier, but I did struggle to reduce it to the correct consistency. I use alcohol based acrylics in my airbrush, I had no idea you can get alcohol based shellac paints for larger scale furniture projects. I'm going to have to give this stuff a try when I do my kitchen cabinets later this year.
Great video, the Graco HVLP doesn’t seem as loud as other HVLP turbines & this model looks to have more control with the settings etc. All sprayers make noise but some are more bearable. Looks a good set up.
@@sprayaholica video of the Qtech Q5 that would be great to see, overall difficult question perhaps do you prefer the Graco 9.5 used here or the Qtech Q5 ? I think there’s a Wagner HVLP very pricey though! I’ve used the Graco GXFF airless but so much overspray! HVLP is noisy so I considered a soundproof box but it would be a no no as the turbines get very hot! Thanks for replying so fast! Many thanks & Happy New Year.
@Nicola Wood happy new year and tnanksfor the support. The q5 and fuji q series are sound proofed. I have made a video trying to show noise levels between 3 turbine units aswel. So plenty of videos on the way. I like the graco gun. The qtech is basically the same as fuji, great gear. Alot have difficulty with the graco gun and the plastic cups, but the qtech is great too and a good price really for what you get. I'll be doing a review comparing each one. But any questions feel free to ask
@Nicola Wood airless overspray id say is alot down to technique and spray tip, you can dial it down But hvlp can dust up a room with dry dust and get a rough finish from not applying enough paint
@@sprayaholic thank you on Qtech Q5 is there the option like on the Graco to control the turbine, or is it just the Fuji Q5 & Graco 9.5 that have that extra control, I think that’s why they are pricier! Cheers this is the best page for paint sprayers, I’ve literally watched hundreds of videos on TH-cam you give sound, helpful advice. Ace!
Really tempted to buy this now! Would you say after using different HVLP brands/machines this would be yr favourite for versatility & build quality etc? Thank u fantastic advice and videos cheers.
Its good and you get 3 needle sets included. The hose is longer and smart start is great. But the qtech Q5 is smaller but same power, you can get a deal with a pressure pot too. And id buy a 1.8mm needle separately. A good alternative and a little cheaper
Hi m8 great video as usual, I have some shutters to paint and have the Graco Ultra max , but will be buying the GXFF in new year, which one of these would best be suited to spray shutters,
Thanks for the support. How many shutters ? Youd probably have more pressure control with the gxff The ultra would work fine but you may be filling the cups, also if you want to be in and out or electricity is an issue the ultra is great. Just make sure both batteries are charged.
Very helpful vid and commentary, thanks 🙏. I’m moving from rollers and camel hair brush finishing into HVLP. Probs going to go for Graco 9.5 unit, really need some instruction, must start by looking through your collection... Do you have any vids on hard wearing furniture UK available finishes? Find it confusing watching USA vids since their products aren’t named the same as here....
Hey thanks for watching. Hopefully you will find more helpful videos on the channel. I have a few on the hvlp. Caparol haft primer and PU matt and satin are really nice. Ive used tikkurila akva primer and helmi or everal paints
great vid brother! can i use a cheaper HVLP from home depot or lowe's instead of the professional like yours? also, how do you clean out the primer from the HVLP sprayer afterwards?
Thanks for watching. Sure you can use cheaper ones. The BIN its ok if its not perfect as youre generally buffing it smooth anyway. My next video is how to clean. Also i thought id do one with cheap sprayers too. So hope they will help
@@sprayaholic nice, thanks man! can i hold the HVLP horizontally (pointing downward towards the floor) or is that only with gravity fed HVLP sprayers? i just have like 20 cabinet doors to do on my house and was gonna lay them out flat in the garage.
@@planchik with a standard hvlp suction cup the suction tub usually has an angled spout and some guns allow you to turn that incaee youte pointing down or up. You can tilt too far or paint will go up the air pipe. But should be able to spray flat items yes
@@sprayaholic that's right, i can spray at an angle so it doesn't have to be completely horizontal lol. brain fart moment on my part haha. thanks brother!
@eezy251able had you seen the video i made on it? th-cam.com/video/5Wa2kQzdzkE/w-d-xo.html Its whiter, external use aswel. Nice grab. I do still like the original though. Although i think they've changed it abit. For adhesion the 123+ is great and its white
Awesome videos. Quick question if you don't mind answering you have probably answered 100 times before. But I have some spraying experience using conventional spray set up and Gun. Used Apollo stage 3 before as well(didn't like it had to tin paint to much to get to spray right) but I would spray/hand paint occasionally. Some project and trim. I've been looking to get a Fuji q4/q5 or the Graco 7/9 or 9.5 likes yourself. But I keep toying with the idea of the Graco ultra cordless as well. Only use water based paints. (Colourtrend here in Ireland) would a Fuji stage 4 be good enough to spray waterbased paint obviously thinning but with my previous experience with the Apollo it's throwing me off because of the thinning. How much to much to thin water based paint
Hey bud thanks for watching. I have an old video on here using the fuji Q4 great machine. Basically a 3 stage pushes around 6psi 4 stage 9psi 5 stage 9.5psi So a big jump on power when you get a 4 stage. Also the needle size makes a big difference, ages ago most used to come with a 1.3 needle so would need thinning again. I use a 1.8mm mostly, the graco comes with more things like 3 needle sets. A qtech 5 would be like a fuji mini mite 5. The guns are the same. I had that apollo machine too ha. Colourtrend sprays nice i like it. I thin max 10% with the 9.5 and also using the larger needles it sprays thicker material. Also warming up the paint makes it flow alit easier to avoids thinning
@@sprayaholic thanks for the quick reply. Yeah with the Apollo I was using a 2.0 tip but still had very little effect. But good to know I'll have a look back at your older videos. Also for just occasional spraying would you recommend a graco ultra or something like a stage 4 hvlp gun. In the long run. Sometimes I would spray varnish as well which I don't think a graco ultra would be great for. Might leave it with orange peel
@@snwman862 hey did you ever get any of hvlp turbnes and how ya getting on? I find Colourtrend good with devilbiss + compressor, but I have no goods trying that in someones house due to overspray. Wondering if turbines are any better.
Quick questions what setting is the machine at? Which number setting on the gun? Which needle tip are you using? What product are you using? Do you thin out latex paint?
I thought i covered most of that in the video. Zinsser BIN primer. Machine doens matter that much but usually only have it on power 5 or 6. Needle 4 or 1.8mm for other brand guns, gun setting i thought it showed. Maybe around 3
Excellent video, I have a question on the turbine do you open to full capacity or how much to spray BIN primer, and what needle number do you recommend? Thank you
Hey thanks for watching. I have more hvlp videos on my page. I used number 4. Turbine power on about 6. And i sometimes turn the air down on tbe hose. Number 3 needle will probably work fine as its thin
@@sprayaholic Thank you very much for answering me, I just bought my hvlp and it is the first time that I will use BIN with it, I just have to know how to control the air in the gun and the turbine. I need to more practice,Again Thank you.
@@JoseAlvarez-qm6ej th-cam.com/play/PLh52qZvZDDDADCc4NktwwdD1K5rgk1SlC.html Thats the hvlp playlist. There is a quick start up guard which goes into more detail. Same principle with all paints
@aaronbarton6862 paint consistency is one of the most important parts, too thick and you'll get textured and splatter finish. I've got quite a few videos on the hvlp. And one which is a quick starter guide. Take a look at my other videos and hopefully you'll have a better understanding
Hi mate, love the videos. I do a bit of airless spraying at the minute but only using waterbased. What do you use for cleaning out the HVLP unit after use?
If been using waterbased just warm water. Or soap water does the trick. I also have waterbased gun cleaner i use for my hvlp and.airless bits if i want to soak them. Hvlp is easier and faster to.clean than airless
If i was to spray new bare internal wooden door liners could you please recommend a primer/undercoat/topcoat? I been looking at zinsser cover stain for undercoat then maybe zinsser exterior for topcoat (both waterbased)
Thanks. Yes this was an occupied house. I shut the door, opem the windows. If furniture is there throw sheets over. It will settle as dust. Always best to over mask as it saves on clean up. You can dial it down alot and reduce overspray
@@sprayaholic I have gone from my old 13-year-old HVlp with needles from one to 3 to the new edge Two gun. It comes with number three needle but I want to be spraying enamel so I take it number two would be the best?
If you had to paint a couple of cabinet doors which would be your go to sprayer considering set up and clean up and any other factors including finish, over-spray etc? Small airless, Graco Ultra or this HVLP? I primarily use Latex. I have used HVLP since they came out in the early 80's and did not like the fogging and heating up the paint. Since then I have not used one and can assume they are much better these days. Just considering a small touch up unit that I will have on the job site and will more than likely not clean out after every use as it looks like you do. Heck the time saved not cleaning can buy me many sprayers. I know its wrong, but my time is worth a lot.
Hey. I dont clean out my sprayers that often. Both my airless units are still sat in the same paint, i will be using again the end of the week. I just clean the tip and guard and cover the paint. Same with hvlp i clean the tip end buy the guns have both still got paint in them. Once ive finished with that paint or job i then clean. They have improved alot. Fogging comes from too much air and wasted paint in the air. You can really dial down the paint and get little overspray and fogging. Its good to have an extractor you can hang out a window too which can draw out the overspray. Depends, i would happily do it with the ultra, but i do like using the hvlp. You just need to make sure youve applied enough paint. I see sone people applying it too thin, hence it comes off and doesnt last. I guess it comes down to what may be best for you at the time
Great machine and you get 3 tips sets with it which is a bonus. Love the smart start and gun. The Qtech Q5 is a nice option too but you dont get as much with it
@@sprayaholic yeah I’ve looked into other options like the Fuji etc but the graco just seems that little more comprehensive from the get go? I can see it coming in real handy for getting a real nice finish to like an exterior front door for example and little cleaning up time etc. Perfect for them small jobs I think, and it’ll work well for furniture and cabinets and the like 👍🏻 this year I’m gonna change things around and focus more on spraying and making my life a little easier, plus improve the quality of finish and time. Thanks for your replies dude, much appreciated James
yes you could use a compressor set up to spray bin. and any finish i guess. use the right needle and dilution and you can spray most things. ive often used the gravity gun but it holds a bit less that the normal gun
Gostaria de uma informação comprei um pulverizador craco e não sabia que tipo de pistola ia ser adequada vendo esse vídeo vejo que a ideal e essa como faço pra comprar uma ?
You can ye. Ive done many mdf doors in the past with BIN it dries sl fast youre able to sand and re coat. You can put your chosen top coat ontop. Too many to choose from. Caparol, Tikkurila, teknos, you could use oil based from your local paint shop too
@@IAINoodle you can get a gravity gun. Theyre nicer when spraying alot of flat items as the pots not.on the way. You can also add a pressure pot. If you take a look i hVe a few hvlp videos
@@sprayaholic I'll do just that thank you 👍 Is there a topcoat that you prefer in terms of durability? Im possibly looking to spray up some bare kitchen units and they'll need to be sufficiently damage resistant
@@IAINoodle 2k paints the most durable obviously but best to be done in a booth. Not sure for most damage resistant with standard paints. alot of guys using renner
Do you thin your bin at all? and Do you think it would work with a gravity fed gun, or is the extra air from the air assist necessary to spray un-thinned paint?
Hi. It sprays fine unthinned. Gravity would be great also. A s gravity does most of the work and the air just pushes it out. Depends on what hvlp unit you have qnd its power, and also the tip size is important
@@sprayaholic I mostly use airless, but getting tired of cleaning and over spray, it's bad enough with water based latex. I use like 5+ gallons of water to Clean it. Couldn't imagine the pain of cleaning BIN out of it using solvents. I have a cheap gravity gun, and a big shop compressor, but it tends to need to be thinned to get decent atomization.
@@guineapigs3424 so with q compressor set up it depends how powerful the compressor is. These turbine units arnt as powerful and max psi at the gun is 9.5psi. I use a 1.8mm needle so it flies out. Alot of compressor guns have a 1.3 or lower if itz not been changed. The lower the numver the more work needed to spray a nice fan. Honestly BIN is surprisingly easy to clean, it cleans faster than waterbased as the chemical reaction cleans the solvents. Where as water cleans faster from manually scrubbing or warm water. Have you seen my BIN cleaning video?
@@sprayaholic I did watch the cleaning video, I use my gravity gun, or roller for oil/ solvent based paint. worst case, I replace the whole gun fit $50 lol.
I always think the aaa units are fantastic. More likely easier to use, get a great controlled finish. And could spray thicker material as its got more power
Hey mate, would i get away with a 1.3 or 1.5 tip with a 5 stage Fuji @ 9.5psi. Or do I need to purchase a 1.8. about to get stuck into it this weekend and I've only got the 1.3 atm. Wondering if I should postpone the painting or just hit it with what I've got. Cheers
Hey bud. Id recommend buying atleast a 1.8mm The 1.3 wil spray it but you'll need to thin. Youll see a big difference between the 2 tip sizes when spraying . A 1.5 would work but if you're buying one id get a 1.8mm
@@sprayaholic I've sprayed the bin primer shellac on over the weekend and it's fantastic. What a great product. Flawless, and effortless to apply. Ended up using 1.3 tip and it went on fine with a bit more passes. Cloudy ammonia was great for the clean up. Do you have any information or tips on what paint to use for cabinets. I've spent days trying to figure out if I should go latex with polyurathane top coat, waterbased acrylic-alkyd enamel or go old school with an oil based paint. The yellowing and dry time are putting me off tho. Too many choices. A lot of the paint suggestions online are for specific brands not available in Australia so I'm going around in circles. Curious what your go to combo is. Cheers, thanks for the help.
I have a Harbor Freight HVLP gun which I understand comes with a 1.4 tip. I am planning to put BIN on my interior doors (after spraying STIX) due to some tannins coming through the primer). I see some comments below about a 1.3 working alright and suggestions of using 1.8. My HVLP would be driven by my 4.5 - 30 gallon compressor. Would my 1.4 tip work under these conditions?
I need to prime (with Zinsser BIN) all the walls, ceilings, and trim of the house I just bought due to the prior occupants being smokers. Would it make too much of a mess if I used a sprayer to do this? It would save me a ton of time over rolling and hand painting.
Do you have any sprayers already? Id probably say an airless would be alot more efficient. Ive been testing out the cheap airless from screwfix recently
Is your tip screwed in hand right. Is your needle actually locked in? The pin at the top pf the trigger pops in and out. To unlock the needle and lock it in.
It comes with a 1.3mm in the set. But if they sell a 1.4mm for that gun then yes. Or for other machines, yes a 1.4mm will work but you will probably need to thin the paint more
Im trying to spray like glass on cast iton tubs. I’m using A number three. I fine I’m getting a lot of particles in the air and I’m kind of getting an orange peel type spray please help
Too much fog in the air is usually when youre air is too high. Orange peel could be the paint is too thick or youre applying too much. Is the paint really thin like a stain/milk? If not id consider try a number 4. Try and get the paint consistency right, so if you put a stick in the paint, lift it out qnd see if the ripple stays for a long time. Disappears or is take maybe 3 seconds for the ripples to blend into all the paint. Then you can get your settings lower, if you spray too lightly the suface will be rough. So id spray 1 coat, then build up from there. If it needs sanding in-between coats that helps get that perfect finish
I sold my fuji Q4 and about a year later i realised i missed it ha. The Q series is on of the quietest machines it has a lower hum. You get more for your money with the graco. 3 tips sets 1.3mm, 1.8mm, 2.2mm, longer hose, smart start. Flexi cup that sprays all angles, and i really like the guns adjustability. The fuji is fantastic too. The guns are really well made. Not sure what the tip size is that comes with the fuji gun. Maybe a 1.3 or option fro a 1.8mm (i would say opt to buy another tip so you have atleast a 1.8mm in your set) The Qtech would be a contender also. The Qtech5 its abit like the fuji mini mite 5. Guns are the same as fuji. It comes with a 1.5mm in the gun. You could get a deal with a pressure pot on that one and it would probably still be cheaper than the others. Still id buy a 1.8mm needle set. So long as its 5 stage you're flying. Its really just gun preference and loudness after that. But all will get you the same finish.
Hey. Yes i tried it out last year. Got to say it failed on us. It didnt hold back water stains and other staining. It scratched off prepped woodwork swapped back to bin
@@sprayaholic thanks for the reply. Interesting. I'm using it on all projects since last year as Isofix replacement Over old Varnish, Acid Cat, Pre Cat, laminates, bare teak, knoty pine, mahogany and mdf Not a single problem and it goes lovely when brushed as well as the open time is longer. Have you contacted Smith&Rodger?
@@mattgloss8580 no. I went through 15L so i thought i gave it a good enough go ha. It was nice that the smell wasnt there and yes it stayed open long enough. I started to think if its not broke dont try and fix it
Power is the same. I think you get more for your money with the graco. The fuji machine is quieter though. Ive had fujis before and brilliant. But i love the edge gun for its maneuverability. And 3 needle sets included. Also a longer hose by 2m i think the graco one compared to fuji. Smart start on the graco too is great. Another option is qtech 5 with pressure pot.
@@sprayaholic I follow all your videos 😀 it’s a great help for me as a starter! Would be nice if you could explain how to set up properly turbo control before spraying 😀
@@thecompletepaintersdecorat3345 ahh appreciate the support. On the turbine. I basically have it on smart start and on power 6 or 7. Hardly ever chamge it
@@sprayaholic I already forgot. It was my first experience with it. I have a small job coming up this week to prime MDF with Shellac. I read that #3 needle is the one to use. What’s your approach?
@synthesaurus the video above is sprayinh shellac primer. I do mention the settings and needle etc in the video. If you use too much air you will fog a room up quickly
@@sprayaholic All good! I’m a collision paint supply sales rep, so I’m use to automotive coatings sprayed with anything from a 1.2 to a 1.8…even sprayable body filler at 2.0 - 2.5 lol. Thanks man, great video 👍
@@noybeeswax ah nice one. Ye the graco fluid tips are done in numbers. 3, 4 and 5. Which are 1.3mm 1.8mm and 2.2mm. Ive qlways been interested in sprayinh some alloys and parts. Maybe have a go one day
@@chrise202 no you wouldn't. I use these as a general setting. Never ever had anything other than an even flat finish. I'll be spraying some black on my insta soon
Legend mate I never would have got into spraying if it wasn’t for your videos 👍🏻
Really appreciate that bud. Glad you find the videos helpful and thanks for the support
Spent 35 years brushing and rolling,! Hated it, Iwould love to get back into biz and get one of those things, makes the work far easier to do.
It can get tedious brushing and rolling 3 to 4 coats.. mask once and spray and spray
I had absolutely no luck shooting acrylic emulsion paint when I first got my Earlex HVLP. Polyurethane varnish was a little easier, but I did struggle to reduce it to the correct consistency.
I use alcohol based acrylics in my airbrush, I had no idea you can get alcohol based shellac paints for larger scale furniture projects. I'm going to have to give this stuff a try when I do my kitchen cabinets later this year.
Great video, the Graco HVLP doesn’t seem as loud as other HVLP turbines & this model looks to have more control with the settings etc. All sprayers make noise but some are more bearable. Looks a good set up.
Yes its great. Id say the qtech Q5 is quieter though. I'll have a video shortly about that. So both good options
@@sprayaholica video of the Qtech Q5 that would be great to see, overall difficult question perhaps do you prefer the Graco 9.5 used here or the Qtech Q5 ? I think there’s a Wagner HVLP very pricey though! I’ve used the Graco GXFF airless but so much overspray! HVLP is noisy so I considered a soundproof box but it would be a no no as the turbines get very hot! Thanks for replying so fast! Many thanks & Happy New Year.
@Nicola Wood happy new year and tnanksfor the support. The q5 and fuji q series are sound proofed. I have made a video trying to show noise levels between 3 turbine units aswel. So plenty of videos on the way.
I like the graco gun. The qtech is basically the same as fuji, great gear. Alot have difficulty with the graco gun and the plastic cups, but the qtech is great too and a good price really for what you get. I'll be doing a review comparing each one. But any questions feel free to ask
@Nicola Wood airless overspray id say is alot down to technique and spray tip, you can dial it down
But hvlp can dust up a room with dry dust and get a rough finish from not applying enough paint
@@sprayaholic thank you on Qtech Q5 is there the option like on the Graco to control the turbine, or is it just the Fuji Q5 & Graco 9.5 that have that extra control, I think that’s why they are pricier! Cheers this is the best page for paint sprayers, I’ve literally watched hundreds of videos on TH-cam you give sound, helpful advice. Ace!
Really tempted to buy this now! Would you say after using different HVLP brands/machines this would be yr favourite for versatility & build quality etc? Thank u fantastic advice and videos cheers.
Its good and you get 3 needle sets included. The hose is longer and smart start is great.
But the qtech Q5 is smaller but same power, you can get a deal with a pressure pot too. And id buy a 1.8mm needle separately. A good alternative and a little cheaper
Great video
I use airless for almost everything out of preference
Thanks. Yes i use airless alot. But its handy for smaller amount, and gives a mint finish
Hi m8 great video as usual, I have some shutters to paint and have the Graco Ultra max , but will be buying the GXFF in new year, which one of these would best be suited to spray shutters,
Thanks for the support. How many shutters ? Youd probably have more pressure control with the gxff
The ultra would work fine but you may be filling the cups, also if you want to be in and out or electricity is an issue the ultra is great. Just make sure both batteries are charged.
Great advice, thanks for the advice and prompt feedback... Great channel 👍
Thanks for the support. Any questions feel free to ask and hopefully you'll find the over videos helpful. More to come in the new year
Very helpful vid and commentary, thanks 🙏. I’m moving from rollers and camel hair brush finishing into HVLP. Probs going to go for Graco 9.5 unit, really need some instruction, must start by looking through your collection... Do you have any vids on hard wearing furniture UK available finishes? Find it confusing watching USA vids since their products aren’t named the same as here....
Hey thanks for watching. Hopefully you will find more helpful videos on the channel. I have a few on the hvlp. Caparol haft primer and PU matt and satin are really nice. Ive used tikkurila akva primer and helmi or everal paints
th-cam.com/video/i7qGadbSr-g/w-d-xo.html
Heres a quick set up guide. More a walk-through using crown paint
Thanks bud, now my first stop for HVLP queries.... will share...
great vid brother! can i use a cheaper HVLP from home depot or lowe's instead of the professional like yours? also, how do you clean out the primer from the HVLP sprayer afterwards?
Thanks for watching. Sure you can use cheaper ones. The BIN its ok if its not perfect as youre generally buffing it smooth anyway.
My next video is how to clean. Also i thought id do one with cheap sprayers too. So hope they will help
@@sprayaholic nice, thanks man! can i hold the HVLP horizontally (pointing downward towards the floor) or is that only with gravity fed HVLP sprayers? i just have like 20 cabinet doors to do on my house and was gonna lay them out flat in the garage.
@@planchik with a standard hvlp suction cup the suction tub usually has an angled spout and some guns allow you to turn that incaee youte pointing down or up. You can tilt too far or paint will go up the air pipe.
But should be able to spray flat items yes
@@sprayaholic that's right, i can spray at an angle so it doesn't have to be completely horizontal lol. brain fart moment on my part haha. thanks brother!
I got a Graco Airless quickshot. What tip size would you use to spray Zinsser Bin? Thanks buddy?
@eezy251able that depend what youre spraying. But 210, 310 woupd be fine unless you wanted wider
@@sprayaholic thanks buddy. I'm actually looking at the Zinsser Aqua Bin. Seems better, but pretty pricy.
@eezy251able had you seen the video i made on it?
th-cam.com/video/5Wa2kQzdzkE/w-d-xo.html
Its whiter, external use aswel. Nice grab. I do still like the original though. Although i think they've changed it abit. For adhesion the 123+ is great and its white
Great video Simon
Thanks for the support
Great video and nice work 👏
Much thinning of the B.I.N.?
It was neat with the 4 needle set
Thanks appreciate the support
Awesome videos. Quick question if you don't mind answering you have probably answered 100 times before. But I have some spraying experience using conventional spray set up and Gun. Used Apollo stage 3 before as well(didn't like it had to tin paint to much to get to spray right) but I would spray/hand paint occasionally. Some project and trim. I've been looking to get a Fuji q4/q5 or the Graco 7/9 or 9.5 likes yourself. But I keep toying with the idea of the Graco ultra cordless as well. Only use water based paints. (Colourtrend here in Ireland) would a Fuji stage 4 be good enough to spray waterbased paint obviously thinning but with my previous experience with the Apollo it's throwing me off because of the thinning. How much to much to thin water based paint
Hey bud thanks for watching. I have an old video on here using the fuji Q4 great machine.
Basically a 3 stage pushes around 6psi
4 stage 9psi
5 stage 9.5psi
So a big jump on power when you get a 4 stage. Also the needle size makes a big difference, ages ago most used to come with a 1.3 needle so would need thinning again.
I use a 1.8mm mostly, the graco comes with more things like 3 needle sets.
A qtech 5 would be like a fuji mini mite 5. The guns are the same.
I had that apollo machine too ha. Colourtrend sprays nice i like it.
I thin max 10% with the 9.5 and also using the larger needles it sprays thicker material. Also warming up the paint makes it flow alit easier to avoids thinning
@@sprayaholic thanks for the quick reply. Yeah with the Apollo I was using a 2.0 tip but still had very little effect. But good to know I'll have a look back at your older videos. Also for just occasional spraying would you recommend a graco ultra or something like a stage 4 hvlp gun. In the long run. Sometimes I would spray varnish as well which I don't think a graco ultra would be great for. Might leave it with orange peel
@@snwman862 hey did you ever get any of hvlp turbnes and how ya getting on? I find Colourtrend good with devilbiss + compressor, but I have no goods trying that in someones house due to overspray. Wondering if turbines are any better.
Quick questions what setting is the machine at? Which number setting on the gun? Which needle tip are you using? What product are you using? Do you thin out latex paint?
I thought i covered most of that in the video.
Zinsser BIN primer. Machine doens matter that much but usually only have it on power 5 or 6.
Needle 4 or 1.8mm for other brand guns, gun setting i thought it showed. Maybe around 3
Yes i always thin. I made a video on how to set up hvlp it goes in depth with gun set up
Excellent video, I have a question on the turbine do you open to full capacity or how much to spray BIN primer, and what needle number do you recommend? Thank you
Hey thanks for watching. I have more hvlp videos on my page.
I used number 4. Turbine power on about 6. And i sometimes turn the air down on tbe hose. Number 3 needle will probably work fine as its thin
@@sprayaholic Thank you very much for answering me, I just bought my hvlp and it is the first time that I will use BIN with it, I just have to know how to control the air in the gun and the turbine. I need to more practice,Again Thank you.
@@JoseAlvarez-qm6ej th-cam.com/play/PLh52qZvZDDDADCc4NktwwdD1K5rgk1SlC.html
Thats the hvlp playlist. There is a quick start up guard which goes into more detail. Same principle with all paints
How many apprentice at my painters union and my goal is to coat like you sir do you have any tips to someone who has no experience???
@aaronbarton6862 paint consistency is one of the most important parts, too thick and you'll get textured and splatter finish.
I've got quite a few videos on the hvlp. And one which is a quick starter guide. Take a look at my other videos and hopefully you'll have a better understanding
@@aaronbarton6862 th-cam.com/video/i7qGadbSr-g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wcaVXde71U-fgZBB
@@sprayaholic sweet thank you sir I’m trying to level up and just learn a lot when it comes to paint again thank you for the tips
@aaronbarton6862 happy to help hopefully you find value on my channel
Hi mate, love the videos. I do a bit of airless spraying at the minute but only using waterbased. What do you use for cleaning out the HVLP unit after use?
If been using waterbased just warm water. Or soap water does the trick.
I also have waterbased gun cleaner i use for my hvlp and.airless bits if i want to soak them. Hvlp is easier and faster to.clean than airless
Appreciate the support
@@sprayaholic thanks for the reply mate! What about when using BIN primer and cleaning the gun out?
@@Fraser5921 doing a video on that next. But meths. I show what happens if you leave it over 6 months in a gun too haha
@@sprayaholic good stuff mate, ill look out for it.
Hi great video, how are you cleaning the gun out after use?
Hi thanks for watching. If you take a look at my other videos, heres the cleaning one
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Nice job,
Did you have to thin the bin paint or is it an direct fit in the hvlp?
Thanks for watching. Its undiluted using a number 4 needle set 1.8mm
If i was to spray new bare internal wooden door liners could you please recommend a primer/undercoat/topcoat? I been looking at zinsser cover stain for undercoat then maybe zinsser exterior for topcoat (both waterbased)
i always used zinnser bin first then benjamin moore scuff x. or most finishes will work
Nice video. Good information
Thanks buddy
Whats your thoughts on fuji semi pro 2 for cabinets, i use bin shellac primer as well,,, levels great and drys fast
replied on your other comment. id aim for a more powerful unit. it woul probably spray bin though as its so thin
Great Video. Could I ask what dial position you had the machine on?
Hey thanks. It's usually on 6. I dont think ive ever had it on full
@@sprayaholic thanks for your help. Appreciate it.
Great video. How much overspray do you get with the HVLP. Is it possible to paint in an occupied house or do you need to mask everything up?
Thanks. Yes this was an occupied house. I shut the door, opem the windows. If furniture is there throw sheets over. It will settle as dust. Always best to over mask as it saves on clean up. You can dial it down alot and reduce overspray
What size needle are you using?
@peterbutterworth6936 its the number 4 in the graco. Or equivalent of a 1.8mm in other guns
@@sprayaholic I have gone from my old 13-year-old HVlp with needles from one to 3 to the new edge Two gun. It comes with number three needle but I want to be spraying enamel so I take it number two would be the best?
If you had to paint a couple of cabinet doors which would be your go to sprayer considering set up and clean up and any other factors including finish, over-spray etc? Small airless, Graco Ultra or this HVLP? I primarily use Latex.
I have used HVLP since they came out in the early 80's and did not like the fogging and heating up the paint. Since then I have not used one and can assume they are much better these days.
Just considering a small touch up unit that I will have on the job site and will more than likely not clean out after every use as it looks like you do. Heck the time saved not cleaning can buy me many sprayers. I know its wrong, but my time is worth a lot.
Hey. I dont clean out my sprayers that often. Both my airless units are still sat in the same paint, i will be using again the end of the week. I just clean the tip and guard and cover the paint.
Same with hvlp i clean the tip end buy the guns have both still got paint in them. Once ive finished with that paint or job i then clean.
They have improved alot. Fogging comes from too much air and wasted paint in the air. You can really dial down the paint and get little overspray and fogging. Its good to have an extractor you can hang out a window too which can draw out the overspray.
Depends, i would happily do it with the ultra, but i do like using the hvlp. You just need to make sure youve applied enough paint. I see sone people applying it too thin, hence it comes off and doesnt last.
I guess it comes down to what may be best for you at the time
I’m really liking the look of this unit and i think I’ll bite bullet and buy one.
Great machine and you get 3 tips sets with it which is a bonus. Love the smart start and gun. The Qtech Q5 is a nice option too but you dont get as much with it
@@sprayaholic yeah I’ve looked into other options like the Fuji etc but the graco just seems that little more comprehensive from the get go? I can see it coming in real handy for getting a real nice finish to like an exterior front door for example and little cleaning up time etc. Perfect for them small jobs I think, and it’ll work well for furniture and cabinets and the like 👍🏻 this year I’m gonna change things around and focus more on spraying and making my life a little easier, plus improve the quality of finish and time. Thanks for your replies dude, much appreciated
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Hi do you dilute bin at all or just spray straight from the tin. Cheers
This wae un diluted. Its so thin anyway it should be good to go
could you use a normal gravity fed pot gun and compressor wit this paint and/o the zinsser exterior paint? Thanks
yes you could use a compressor set up to spray bin. and any finish i guess. use the right needle and dilution and you can spray most things. ive often used the gravity gun but it holds a bit less that the normal gun
Gostaria de uma informação comprei um pulverizador craco e não sabia que tipo de pistola ia ser adequada vendo esse vídeo vejo que a ideal e essa como faço pra comprar uma ?
você precisará comprar uma pistola de turbina hvlp. graco. fuji, apollo, qtech a maioria das marcas são intercambiáveis
@@sprayaholic vc indicaria alguma marca específica
Would you recommend this method for priming MDF kitchen units? If so, what topcoat product would work over the shellac?
You can ye. Ive done many mdf doors in the past with BIN it dries sl fast youre able to sand and re coat. You can put your chosen top coat ontop. Too many to choose from. Caparol, Tikkurila, teknos, you could use oil based from your local paint shop too
@@sprayaholic thanks mate. I'm only really familiar with gravity fed sprayers. Do you know if there much benefit from the pressure fed setups?
@@IAINoodle you can get a gravity gun. Theyre nicer when spraying alot of flat items as the pots not.on the way. You can also add a pressure pot. If you take a look i hVe a few hvlp videos
@@sprayaholic I'll do just that thank you 👍
Is there a topcoat that you prefer in terms of durability?
Im possibly looking to spray up some bare kitchen units and they'll need to be sufficiently damage resistant
@@IAINoodle 2k paints the most durable obviously but best to be done in a booth. Not sure for most damage resistant with standard paints. alot of guys using renner
Do you thin your bin at all? and Do you think it would work with a gravity fed gun, or is the extra air from the air assist necessary to spray un-thinned paint?
Hi. It sprays fine unthinned. Gravity would be great also. A s gravity does most of the work and the air just pushes it out.
Depends on what hvlp unit you have qnd its power, and also the tip size is important
@@sprayaholic I mostly use airless, but getting tired of cleaning and over spray, it's bad enough with water based latex. I use like 5+ gallons of water to Clean it. Couldn't imagine the pain of cleaning BIN out of it using solvents.
I have a cheap gravity gun, and a big shop compressor, but it tends to need to be thinned to get decent atomization.
@@guineapigs3424 so with q compressor set up it depends how powerful the compressor is.
These turbine units arnt as powerful and max psi at the gun is 9.5psi. I use a 1.8mm needle so it flies out.
Alot of compressor guns have a 1.3 or lower if itz not been changed. The lower the numver the more work needed to spray a nice fan.
Honestly BIN is surprisingly easy to clean, it cleans faster than waterbased as the chemical reaction cleans the solvents. Where as water cleans faster from manually scrubbing or warm water. Have you seen my BIN cleaning video?
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@@sprayaholic I did watch the cleaning video, I use my gravity gun, or roller for oil/ solvent based paint. worst case, I replace the whole gun fit $50 lol.
hi mate i have a job soon to do 4 pvc windows and a door what is a good product to use that is scratch proof?
Do you have the air open all the way at the whip hose or is that only open up a tad
Not sure on this one. I only close it off if i feel like im getting too much air throuhj on low settings
Where would I get those trousers you got on? Look ideal for painting in 🤙
engelbert strauss, so comfy
@@sprayaholic oh really, think I’ll grab a pair as look practice.
What do you clean the soray with after using that shellac based primer?
Take a look at this video here
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I wonder how this compares to the Graco Mini Mercur AAA?
I always think the aaa units are fantastic. More likely easier to use, get a great controlled finish. And could spray thicker material as its got more power
You can use a 4 stage turbine too. 5 stage is better but 4 does the job too. May need a tiny bit of alcohol if you use 4 stage.
@@GreatWhiteNiko absolutely. I used to have the Fuji Q4. Only 0.5psi difference
Hey mate, would i get away with a 1.3 or 1.5 tip with a 5 stage Fuji @ 9.5psi. Or do I need to purchase a 1.8. about to get stuck into it this weekend and I've only got the 1.3 atm. Wondering if I should postpone the painting or just hit it with what I've got. Cheers
Hey bud. Id recommend buying atleast a 1.8mm
The 1.3 wil spray it but you'll need to thin. Youll see a big difference between the 2 tip sizes when spraying .
A 1.5 would work but if you're buying one id get a 1.8mm
If youre spraying bin. That would be alright with s 1.3. But tops coats probably be slow
Awesome mate, I'll get the 1.8 then. Thanks for the lighting fast response 🙏
@@rjake333 no worries. Any more questions fire away on here or on my Instagram ✌
@@sprayaholic I've sprayed the bin primer shellac on over the weekend and it's fantastic. What a great product. Flawless, and effortless to apply. Ended up using 1.3 tip and it went on fine with a bit more passes. Cloudy ammonia was great for the clean up.
Do you have any information or tips on what paint to use for cabinets. I've spent days trying to figure out if I should go latex with polyurathane top coat, waterbased acrylic-alkyd enamel or go old school with an oil based paint. The yellowing and dry time are putting me off tho. Too many choices. A lot of the paint suggestions online are for specific brands not available in Australia so I'm going around in circles. Curious what your go to combo is. Cheers, thanks for the help.
I have a Harbor Freight HVLP gun which I understand comes with a 1.4 tip. I am planning to put BIN on my interior doors (after spraying STIX) due to some tannins coming through the primer). I see some comments below about a 1.3 working alright and suggestions of using 1.8. My HVLP would be driven by my 4.5 - 30 gallon compressor. Would my 1.4 tip work under these conditions?
Set air at 30-45psi
Did you thin it out at all to spray it?
No it was straight from the tin. Its thin as it is
I need to prime (with Zinsser BIN) all the walls, ceilings, and trim of the house I just bought due to the prior occupants being smokers. Would it make too much of a mess if I used a sprayer to do this? It would save me a ton of time over rolling and hand painting.
Do you have any sprayers already? Id probably say an airless would be alot more efficient. Ive been testing out the cheap airless from screwfix recently
It would be cloudy with dust spraying mass areas with a hvlp and youd be forever filling up the pot
@@sprayaholic my brother in law has an airless sprayer I can use. Is airless less cloudy?
What I am doing wrong if only come up air but no paint ?
Is your tip screwed in hand right. Is your needle actually locked in? The pin at the top pf the trigger pops in and out. To unlock the needle and lock it in.
Will 1.4 nosel work for bit
It comes with a 1.3mm in the set. But if they sell a 1.4mm for that gun then yes.
Or for other machines, yes a 1.4mm will work but you will probably need to thin the paint more
Im trying to spray like glass on cast iton tubs. I’m using A number three. I fine I’m getting a lot of particles in the air and I’m kind of getting an orange peel type spray please help
Too much fog in the air is usually when youre air is too high.
Orange peel could be the paint is too thick or youre applying too much.
Is the paint really thin like a stain/milk?
If not id consider try a number 4. Try and get the paint consistency right, so if you put a stick in the paint, lift it out qnd see if the ripple stays for a long time. Disappears or is take maybe 3 seconds for the ripples to blend into all the paint.
Then you can get your settings lower, if you spray too lightly the suface will be rough. So id spray 1 coat, then build up from there. If it needs sanding in-between coats that helps get that perfect finish
Hey man !!! How come you switch from Fuji to graco hvlp? I’m deciding on buying the q5 vs graco 9.5.... thanks
I sold my fuji Q4 and about a year later i realised i missed it ha.
The Q series is on of the quietest machines it has a lower hum.
You get more for your money with the graco. 3 tips sets 1.3mm, 1.8mm, 2.2mm, longer hose, smart start. Flexi cup that sprays all angles, and i really like the guns adjustability.
The fuji is fantastic too. The guns are really well made. Not sure what the tip size is that comes with the fuji gun. Maybe a 1.3 or option fro a 1.8mm (i would say opt to buy another tip so you have atleast a 1.8mm in your set)
The Qtech would be a contender also. The Qtech5 its abit like the fuji mini mite 5. Guns are the same as fuji. It comes with a 1.5mm in the gun. You could get a deal with a pressure pot on that one and it would probably still be cheaper than the others. Still id buy a 1.8mm needle set.
So long as its 5 stage you're flying. Its really just gun preference and loudness after that. But all will get you the same finish.
@@sprayaholic
Thank you so much much. Appreciate that .
@@omardelaluz3268 any time buddy. Feel free to ask any question any time
Have you been using the qtech gun with this sprayer?
Yes so long as its a hvlp turbine gun theyre generally a universal fot
Do you have to thin the primer down before spraying?
No BIN sprayers really well out the tin
@@sprayaholic Cheers! Subscribed
@@bobbybillionXRP appreciate the support. Hopefully you'll find more videos helpful
Can i put any laquer over shellac?
Its not a product i generally use, im mainly waterbased systems. But as far as im aware its ok to do so
...Nice!
Can you use water based paint over the top of the BIN shellac primer? Thanks
Hey. Yes you can
Hello. Have you ever sprayed Blockade Shellac Primer?
Hey. Yes i tried it out last year. Got to say it failed on us. It didnt hold back water stains and other staining. It scratched off prepped woodwork swapped back to bin
@@sprayaholic thanks for the reply.
Interesting.
I'm using it on all projects since last year as Isofix replacement Over old Varnish, Acid Cat, Pre Cat, laminates, bare teak, knoty pine, mahogany and mdf Not a single problem and it goes lovely when brushed as well as the open time is longer. Have you contacted Smith&Rodger?
@@mattgloss8580 no. I went through 15L so i thought i gave it a good enough go ha. It was nice that the smell wasnt there and yes it stayed open long enough.
I started to think if its not broke dont try and fix it
@@sprayaholic okay.. I went out from BIN after they stopped suitability over knots.
Anyway great channel.
Bless you.
@@mattgloss8580 appreciate the support buddy.
Yes we double bin knots and sometimes even use knotting first then bin
How you clean gun and mix shellac primer ?
Hey I'll be making a video shortly showing how to clean it.
This is sprayed with undiluted paint.
Is this better then a q5 Fuji unit?
Power is the same. I think you get more for your money with the graco.
The fuji machine is quieter though. Ive had fujis before and brilliant. But i love the edge gun for its maneuverability. And 3 needle sets included. Also a longer hose by 2m i think the graco one compared to fuji. Smart start on the graco too is great.
Another option is qtech 5 with pressure pot.
Nice vids thx!!
great thanks for watching
Hi
Mate what tip size are you using ?
its the number 4 needle #1.8mm
@@sprayaholic many thanks
@@thecompletepaintersdecorat3345 no problem. Theres a few more hvlp videos on the channel if you hadnt seen already
@@sprayaholic I follow all your videos 😀 it’s a great help for me as a starter!
Would be nice if you could explain how to set up properly turbo control before spraying 😀
@@thecompletepaintersdecorat3345 ahh appreciate the support. On the turbine. I basically have it on smart start and on power 6 or 7. Hardly ever chamge it
I always get so much overspray ( atomized mist ) with this :(
Are you thinning the paint? What needles are you using and have you got the air on full on the gun?
@@sprayaholic I already forgot. It was my first experience with it. I have a small job coming up this week to prime MDF with Shellac. I read that #3 needle is the one to use. What’s your approach?
@synthesaurus the video above is sprayinh shellac primer. I do mention the settings and needle etc in the video. If you use too much air you will fog a room up quickly
@@sprayaholic thank you. I finally used it with shellac a few days ago. And it worked like a charm!
@@synthesaurus awesome glad you got it nailed down
What is the fluid tip size?
The number 4. Its a 1.8mm
@@sprayaholic cheers 🍻
@@noybeeswax no problem. Happy to help with any questions. It would go through a 1.3mm as its so thin. But i prefer to smash it on ha
@@sprayaholic All good! I’m a collision paint supply sales rep, so I’m use to automotive coatings sprayed with anything from a 1.2 to a 1.8…even sprayable body filler at 2.0 - 2.5 lol. Thanks man, great video 👍
@@noybeeswax ah nice one. Ye the graco fluid tips are done in numbers. 3, 4 and 5. Which are 1.3mm 1.8mm and 2.2mm.
Ive qlways been interested in sprayinh some alloys and parts. Maybe have a go one day
🍺🍺🤗👍
If you were to paint using black color you'd see huge lap marks with these settings.
@@chrise202 no you wouldn't. I use these as a general setting. Never ever had anything other than an even flat finish. I'll be spraying some black on my insta soon
@@sprayaholic would love to see the result. 👍
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