It’s hard to compare the two tractors because the WM 75 is an economy tractor and the Massey is a deluxe tractor. But I’m going to give a shot in this video.
Hey Brother, glad to see you updating equipment. I've run Massey before and really liked the power to weight ratio. I run the Japanese built 4608 and don't know about the Chinese built 4700 series but found that mine had an issue with bolts vibrating out. I recommend having ceramic tint put on the windows especially in our Texas heat. I've updated to a NH T4-90 and a Case IH 110C. I really haven't kept close watch on your videos but I'm very proud of how you have maintained Joes costal field. Good luck Pard.
I am a Massey guy. I have a 4607 and the stabilizer bars on it work as your Work Master 75. I don't think I would like the style on the 4610. But it is a Massey and to me, that is a good thing! I enjoyed your video.
We've got a small 125 acre farm and after running smaller tractors (for the most part) for years, I finally bought a much larger 4707 last fall. I really like the tractor overall and it has some nice features, but things keep going wrong on it. The 3pt hitch controls have never worked properly, it started puking coolant out all over the back of the cab, and the hood won't stay up when you raise it. The dealer just sent a truck to pick it up today and bring it back so they can work on those issues. I got it with the FL3615 loader and that is fantastic. They better get it all fixed, because I really like the tractor and want it back on the farm.
Sorry to hear your having trouble. Hopefully it’s all just minor repairs and they get it back to you quickly. So far I really like the tractor also! Thanks for the comment
Looks like a slick machine Chris. I think you're going to really enjoy running it. I'm 5'9", so the cab size doesn't bother me about the Workmaster 75. I could definitely see how it would feel cramped for a 6'2" guy though. The lower links would be tough to get use to, but I could see the advantages of the threaded style. Especially when disconnecting from a three point disc mower. Here we are in mid January, and hay season can't get here soon enough! Ha ha. Take good care
That's a heck of a nice tractor! I bet it really improves your haying operation this summer since you took on more acres. I can't wait to see more videos on it. Have a great weekend and Stay Warm!!!
Great, no BS, overview. I’ve been planning for the 4707 to be my next tractor, but I’ll do some research on the Workmaster based on your experience. I agree, every brand sells tractors that have issues. A good dealer makes the difference. Sounds like you have one.
Love everything about the Massey but dealers in my area. I want one but where I’m at Massey dealers are non existent pretty much. I’ve got a new Holland workmaster and a Massey 231. Went to a “dealer” for a belt for my 231 and they didn’t have one. Two new Holland dealers in my vicinity so parts are crazy easy to get. Hoping I find a big Massey dealer close to me when I upgrade to a cab
This was my first video of your channel that I watched. I really like the comparison that you made between the WM 75 and this Massey 4710, plain and simple, to the point. I've already watched several of your video's and I will be commenting on those as I go back and watch them and more. My son just bought a Workmaster 120, I like that your giving an honest opinion, you make some real good observations here. Thanks and have a great day.
Can’t wait to see more videos I decide I was going to buy a 4707 last year because if the new trans. Hoopfulley I will be able to make it Happen this year.
I can tell you the door is very expensive to replace the last I knew the price of that door is around $5,000 at least in my area is what they are charging
I own a new holland workmaster 75 open station tractor with a canopy top and i took it to a weigh station and with the rear wheel weights and water filled rear tires no implement and no operater it weighed in at 9500lbs
@@CenTexAg Thanks. My problem is I cannot seem to find everything I want at one place. For example I can get the FL loader, but a 12x12 transmission or the other place has it with the Dyna 2, Viso Roof, and the 931x loader. Virtually the same price with my trade so if i had to give up the FL loader or Dyna 2. Not sure what to do lol.
I hear ya! I would say don’t settle because if you get half of what you want after the deal is done and a year has gone by, you will be wishing you would have waited. Can you look further out in another state and pay the extra cost to have it delivered? If your dead set on one of those two tractors I would say go with the dyna 2. It is very nice having the extra gears and the brake to neutral feature.
Great video. What I never understood is, why is the turning light on the rear fenders not integrated with the taillights. It looks odd to me sitting on top of the fender.
Chris, I have two John Deere’s and just purchased a 75 work master recently. I really like the tractor, but was wondering where you got the auxiliary hydraulic set up to add the extra capacity of the rear hydraulics. I plan on using the work master with a disc mower and don’t want to strain the rear hydraulics. Thank you.
I went to new hollands website to get the part #’s and ordered it threw the dealer. I can’t remember if it was one part # number for the complete kit or if I had to order individual parts. There should be a link to it in my workmaster “3 point lift cylinder” video
I love it! I had a few problems with the DEF system but I was able to drain the tank, flush and refill with new fluid. It hasn’t left me stranded. The only thing I would change is getting the 540/1000 pto instead of the 540/540e options.
Yeah I do it every time I’m done baling even though it’s not needed. I don’t pull the side covers off, I just blow from the fan towards the front of the tractor.
Definitely looks like a nice tractor. I have always liked masseys. I am thinking about trying to pickup where you’re leaving off on the workmaster videos. Maybe do a northern cold weather version. I just have to figure out how to upload videos and edit them so they’re a quality video. If you have any tips that would be great. I did reply to someone’s comment about their tractor freezing up like mine did last year. Hopefully my advice was helpful. I’ve been watching your haying videos to hopefully start doing my own one of these days and stop buying it.
Go for it! That would be a great video to help the WM community. I usually use my iPhone and an app called LumaFusion to edit the videos. Then just log in to TH-cam and upload them all from my phone. I try to suggest reading the comments because people add there expirence/recommendations with the WM.
The powerstar 100 was pretty close to the Massey’s price point. It was a grand or two more if I remember correctly but that was with the 12x12 transmission in the new Holland compared to the 24x24 in the Massey
So roughly 9160lbs minus 540lbs give or take? That’s still 8620lbs from the factory. I’ve always speculated that it was 8000lbs max. Thats still impressive. I’ll try to edit the video and add that info in there. Thanks again for sharing
@@CenTexAg Mine has loaded rear tires and the 4-110lb wheel weights, and scaled in at just over 11000lbs, with me not in it. I was shocked. I though it felt heavy on the trailer... Ha ha
@@CenTexAg My Son is on a guidance Kick.....Our 6145R has guidance, The 2 5115Ms can be field installed.....He and a friend of his, who has guidance on his tractors, cut raked and baled about 30 acres last year completely using the system.....He said you set the rake width on the tractor pulling the rake..... and the tractor with the baler will follow that tractors program....
That’s insane! Before to long there won’t need to be an operator in the tractor at all. All I have is a Trimble 250 for spraying. Thought about adding the auto steer to it but it’s pricey
Love the tractor and the transmission is awesome! My only complaints are the a/c can’t keep up with the 100* days and the DEF system is sensitive. My DEF level gauge isn’t working and I have to keep it topped off and I get a DEF quality code every once in awhile. I need to run it to the dealer this winter
Hey Brother, glad to see you updating equipment. I've run Massey before and really liked the power to weight ratio. I run the Japanese built 4608 and don't know about the Chinese built 4700 series but found that mine had an issue with bolts vibrating out. I recommend having ceramic tint put on the windows especially in our Texas heat. I've updated to a NH T4-90 and a Case IH 110C. I really haven't kept close watch on your videos but I'm very proud of how you have maintained Joes costal field. Good luck Pard.
I am a Massey guy. I have a 4607 and the stabilizer bars on it work as your Work Master 75. I don't think I would like the style on the 4610. But it is a Massey and to me, that is a good thing! I enjoyed your video.
We've got a small 125 acre farm and after running smaller tractors (for the most part) for years, I finally bought a much larger 4707 last fall. I really like the tractor overall and it has some nice features, but things keep going wrong on it. The 3pt hitch controls have never worked properly, it started puking coolant out all over the back of the cab, and the hood won't stay up when you raise it. The dealer just sent a truck to pick it up today and bring it back so they can work on those issues. I got it with the FL3615 loader and that is fantastic. They better get it all fixed, because I really like the tractor and want it back on the farm.
Sorry to hear your having trouble. Hopefully it’s all just minor repairs and they get it back to you quickly. So far I really like the tractor also! Thanks for the comment
On the 3rd arm adjustment I think I put anti-seize on the threads
Very good informative video. I bought a MF4707 a few months ago and I learned quite a bit from this video.
Looks like a slick machine Chris. I think you're going to really enjoy running it. I'm 5'9", so the cab size doesn't bother me about the Workmaster 75. I could definitely see how it would feel cramped for a 6'2" guy though. The lower links would be tough to get use to, but I could see the advantages of the threaded style. Especially when disconnecting from a three point disc mower. Here we are in mid January, and hay season can't get here soon enough! Ha ha. Take good care
The loader being higher allows the view along the front wheels to be much better though.
I bought a 4710 a year ago and it has been a great.
That's a heck of a nice tractor! I bet it really improves your haying operation this summer since you took on more acres.
I can't wait to see more videos on it. Have a great weekend and Stay Warm!!!
Great, no BS, overview. I’ve been planning for the 4707 to be my next tractor, but I’ll do some research on the Workmaster based on your experience. I agree, every brand sells tractors that have issues. A good dealer makes the difference. Sounds like you have one.
Had a couple 4710 tractors,worked great.
Love everything about the Massey but dealers in my area. I want one but where I’m at Massey dealers are non existent pretty much. I’ve got a new Holland workmaster and a Massey 231. Went to a “dealer” for a belt for my 231 and they didn’t have one. Two new Holland dealers in my vicinity so parts are crazy easy to get. Hoping I find a big Massey dealer close to me when I upgrade to a cab
Mine came with stablizer like yours and I ordered the ones with the adjustable drop in pin
This was my first video of your channel that I watched. I really like the comparison that you made between the WM 75 and this Massey 4710, plain and simple, to the point. I've already watched several of your video's and I will be commenting on those as I go back and watch them and more. My son just bought a Workmaster 120, I like that your giving an honest opinion, you make some real good observations here. Thanks and have a great day.
Chris you will love it I did the same upgrade from the work master 75 but I went with the 4707
Assuming you prefer the 4707 over the 75a?
You are correct I installed the oil catch bottle and flip caps
Nice! I’ll be watching it again
Can’t wait to see more videos I decide I was going to buy a 4707 last year because if the new trans. Hoopfulley I will be able to make it Happen this year.
I can tell you the door is very expensive to replace the last I knew the price of that door is around $5,000 at least in my area is what they are charging
Ouch!
I own a new holland workmaster 75 open station tractor with a canopy top and i took it to a weigh station and with the rear wheel weights and water filled rear tires no implement and no operater it weighed in at 9500lbs
Great Video!! I am about to pull the trigger on a 4710 myself. Curious on what price they gave you before the trade in.
Nice!….$70k
@@CenTexAg Thanks. My problem is I cannot seem to find everything I want at one place. For example I can get the FL loader, but a 12x12 transmission or the other place has it with the Dyna 2, Viso Roof, and the 931x loader. Virtually the same price with my trade so if i had to give up the FL loader or Dyna 2. Not sure what to do lol.
I hear ya! I would say don’t settle because if you get half of what you want after the deal is done and a year has gone by, you will be wishing you would have waited. Can you look further out in another state and pay the extra cost to have it delivered? If your dead set on one of those two tractors I would say go with the dyna 2. It is very nice having the extra gears and the brake to neutral feature.
@@sscconnections9322 Nobody ever says it but believe you can order a tractor configured your way.
Great video.
What I never understood is, why is the turning light on the rear fenders not integrated with the taillights.
It looks odd to me sitting on top of the fender.
Chris, I have two John Deere’s and just purchased a 75 work master recently. I really like the tractor, but was wondering where you got the auxiliary hydraulic set up to add the extra capacity of the rear hydraulics. I plan on using the work master with a disc mower and don’t want to strain the rear hydraulics. Thank you.
I went to new hollands website to get the part #’s and ordered it threw the dealer. I can’t remember if it was one part # number for the complete kit or if I had to order individual parts. There should be a link to it in my workmaster “3 point lift cylinder” video
Just curious after a year, what are your thoughts on the Massey?
I love it! I had a few problems with the DEF system but I was able to drain the tank, flush and refill with new fluid. It hasn’t left me stranded. The only thing I would change is getting the 540/1000 pto instead of the 540/540e options.
Why not get the 4707 and have the motor tuned to 100hp then you can avoid the DEF
Thought about it but I didn’t want to risk voiding the warranty incase something major happens
Have you had to clean out the radiators? Seems like other manufacturers have a swing out design easier to clean.
Yeah I do it every time I’m done baling even though it’s not needed. I don’t pull the side covers off, I just blow from the fan towards the front of the tractor.
nice tractor
I’m considering selling my JD 5065 and getting the MF 47. Any issues shifting with the closer 6 speed trans?
No issues so far. It shifts really smooth
Massey Ferguson 4710😍👍
That new massey is a great tractor, i am sure it will be a great addition to the hay operation.
Definitely looks like a nice tractor. I have always liked masseys. I am thinking about trying to pickup where you’re leaving off on the workmaster videos. Maybe do a northern cold weather version. I just have to figure out how to upload videos and edit them so they’re a quality video. If you have any tips that would be great. I did reply to someone’s comment about their tractor freezing up like mine did last year. Hopefully my advice was helpful. I’ve been watching your haying videos to hopefully start doing my own one of these days and stop buying it.
Go for it! That would be a great video to help the WM community. I usually use my iPhone and an app called LumaFusion to edit the videos. Then just log in to TH-cam and upload them all from my phone. I try to suggest reading the comments because people add there expirence/recommendations with the WM.
@@CenTexAg thanks I’ll start working on it.
Este trator é fabricado aqui em cidade de Canoas Brasil
How do these compare for price compared to a Powerstar?
The powerstar 100 was pretty close to the Massey’s price point. It was a grand or two more if I remember correctly but that was with the 12x12 transmission in the new Holland compared to the 24x24 in the Massey
What motor oil did do you use
Rotella t6
Nice tractor Massey Ferguson makes a great product
How is the Massey now that you had it a while?
Great! Haven’t put a whole lot of hours on it since it’s been so dry here but I’m still loving it.
Why did you trade in your Workmaster 75?
I wanted more horsepower and a heavier tractor.
I'm guessing that this tractor was roughly twice as much?
$20k over the WM75
@CenTex Ag that's a no brainer!!!
Wow how do u like it?
I just purchased a Workmaster 55 with cab and loader. I ran it across the scale and it weighed 9160 pounds.
Wow that is a huge surprise! Thanks for sharing
It does have 440 pounds of wheel weights but no fluid in the tires. That is also with a bale spear on the loader.
So roughly 9160lbs minus 540lbs give or take? That’s still 8620lbs from the factory. I’ve always speculated that it was 8000lbs max. Thats still impressive. I’ll try to edit the video and add that info in there. Thanks again for sharing
@@CenTexAg Mine has loaded rear tires and the 4-110lb wheel weights, and scaled in at just over 11000lbs, with me not in it. I was shocked. I though it felt heavy on the trailer... Ha ha
Very nice!!
Only rich farmers can afford those expensive tractors
Yep
Does it come guidance equiped?
No it sure doesn’t
@@CenTexAg My Son is on a guidance Kick.....Our 6145R has guidance, The 2 5115Ms can be field installed.....He and a friend of his, who has guidance on his tractors, cut raked and baled about 30 acres last year completely using the system.....He said you set the rake width on the tractor pulling the rake..... and the tractor with the baler will follow that tractors program....
That’s insane! Before to long there won’t need to be an operator in the tractor at all. All I have is a Trimble 250 for spraying. Thought about adding the auto steer to it but it’s pricey
How’s that MF holding up any problems?
Love the tractor and the transmission is awesome! My only complaints are the a/c can’t keep up with the 100* days and the DEF system is sensitive. My DEF level gauge isn’t working and I have to keep it topped off and I get a DEF quality code every once in awhile. I need to run it to the dealer this winter
Congratulations on the new tractor now quit complaining about all the small things and put that tractor to work.🤣🤣🤣.⁶.