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Stormy(00:07), TIA(4:05), Cavill(5:45), Papa John’s(8:17), Trump/NATO(10:34)
Philip DeFranco what an interesting law to learn today 😂
Philip DeFranco I’d love a lawyer like that who can pull some Phoenix Wright shit to clear their client
Henry is right though. I feel bad for men in 2018. Not for the predators, but for the innocent ones.
June SAT story should’ve been included! So many kids were ripped off.
Why didn't you include the #rescoreJuneSAT story, Philip? This is actually a big deal because this test affects students' futures!
The reactions to Henry Cavill proves his point. He was being too candid in a public setting and sadly he probably won't be that candid publicly again.
People misrepresenting Cavill's statement helped prove his point.
Whang! You're so on the money, it's amazing.
And unfortunately soooo many people still don't see it.
Lawless Gaming exactly
will take them a while to figure that out
Remember when the #MeToo movement was used to call out people who were sexually harassing other women (i.e. Harvey Weinstein) and not a witch-hunt towards all men in general?
Yeah, me neither.
In today's news:
Henry Cavill's statement that he's worried about flirting with women because one woman taking it the wrong way could lead to public outrage that could hurt his carrier leads to public outrage that could hurt his career.
We need our own real life Thanos
Nah I think we've gone past that, at this point I think we're gonna need motherfuckin' Darkseid.
9specter528 Who's edgier? Thanos, the one who's been chasing after Death, or Darkseid, whose planet is literally called Apokolips?
Darkseid will get the job done...we'd be better off as Parademons...
With Thanos, half of us will still exist...
IntenseOwl123 having thanos help out super man sounds super weird but super funny at the same time
If Henry Cavill has a hard time meeting women then the rest of us are doomed!
Chris L that's part of the plan.....along with open borders and uncontrolled immigration of people that are paid by welfare to just screw and outbreed people from their countries.
FTN Iceberg That escalated quicker than the speed of light, dude.
He doesn't have a hard time meeting woman. He stated he has alot to lose when dating. He never said he had a problem dating.
P K birth rates in wealthy nations dropping tends to be for reasons that have not hing to do with feminism - look at Japan.
As far as the "if celebrities can't have relationships we are doomed" - the very fact that they are celebrities, they have unbelievable pressure put on everything they do because they are in the public eye. They are people just like us, but with pressure we will never understand
It's really more of the mob taking things 'WAAY' OUT of Context
Feminists: rich and powerful men shouldn’t approach vulnerable women
Henry Caville: ok, I won’t approach you
Feminists: so you’re saying it’s our fault!!!!!!
Brilliant and beyond truthful!
Proverbs 31:10
“Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.”
Proverbs 18:22
“Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the Lord.”
Proverbs 19:14
“House and riches are the inheritance of fathers: and a prudent wife is from the Lord.”
Helen Price unknowingly proved Henry Cavill's point... his point is that some women nowadays over-react to anything and make a scene, call you a rapist, etc. Just like she did.
Doesn't people blowing what Henry Cavill said out of proportion just prove his point?
nick robertson Yes.
Exactly
+nick nope. Reacting to a dumb opinion doesn't prove the person giving the dumb opinion's point. Never does lol
Revenge of Bcraig5 obviously not in all cases but in this one it sorta does
Like when right wing speakers go to colleges to talk about left wing students trying to censor them and left wing students show up to censor it.
I think Cavill is right. Each person has different opinions as to what they feel is inappropriate. Anything can be harrasment if you spin it right, and there's enough outrage.
Cavil voices a logical concern about being smeared as rapist and then just for thinking something a woman didn’t like he gets tied into a conversation about being a rapist. I think his concerns were well founded. High inquisitor Helen Price will make sure he pays for his thoughts.
nilpointfive But thoughts are offensive though /s
Tbh Cavill did nothing wrong. He just expressed his feelings and worries about the situation. Everything is blown out of proportion.
Not only that, those worries were 100% based in fact.
All of the anger online directed at Henry Cavill right now is proving his point. I would be terrified to talk to any woman if I was a celebrity. You have no idea what they are going to do now.
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Why the hell are people mad at cavil? He literally just said he's not big on pursuing women anymore lol
A guy says he's not into chasing women anymore and you get upset at him? What?
Soul Fist they mad they can't lie and ruin his life with a fake rape allegation.
Soul Fist In the quotes given by Phil here at least it sounded more like Cavill was complaining that he couldn't disregard women's romantic dismissals anymore. He sounds like he is trying to paint all women as "playing hard to get" and not really meaning it when we tell a man to back off - which is a very harmful idea to spread. If that was truly how he worded himself and he wasn't taken out of context I think he was deserving of critique.
OfTinúvielsKin are you womansplaining? Thats offensive feminazi
OfTinúvielsKin you literally just tried to put words in his mouth
He didn't say anything like that
OfTinúvielsKin found the feminazi.
If a man is explaining why he stops at no (which is what woman ask us to do), why does a woman somewhere have to get pissed off about it. It's getting too risky to be online for public figures because regardless of what they say there is a crowd that will hate them.
"I love the chase" Girls on internet say: AKA you're a rapist
"I am scared to be called a rapist because of all these false charges going around" Girls say: stop being so rapey then
"I am completely respectable about a girl's wishes, and always stop when they say no" Girls say: it should never get to a point where they need to say no, rapist.
Why wouldn't men be nervous about approaching woman? sure it's 1-2% that are nut jobs like that, but they are those who get the air time because they scream the loudest.
Allan donald the number is much higher than that dude.
Henry Cavill has a point, the women responded on Twitter saying "all you have to do is not rape", but on the other side of the fence here, all someone HAS to do is post to twitter or any social media, and then everything the other person has is taken away from them without question or evidence, is Helen Price ignoring whats been going on? The police arent even called in these matters, no charges pressed and a persons life can still be destroyed, he was saying what everyone is thinking. Hell, the fact that he got backlash for saying what he said sorta proves his point. He didnt say all women, but look at the climate of the atmosphere right now. Are we really going to pretend that people are going to use the Metoo movement has a weapon? Like every movement or group in history there are the ones who are doing good and doing positive things and then there are the ones who will use it for there own personal benefit and agenda.
Well said !
DrumWild Every single moment in human history has been "Frightening times" Don't act like the crazy, unfair, out of this world stuff has only just begun to happen. Different era, different horrors, but they're still horrors all the same.
@Alicia Fraser The "movement" is BS as you admitted, it has been reduced to publicity seeking howlers, it had nothing to do with justice for victims of serious/serial harassment and actual rape. Now their stories are being trivialized, few now believe these allegations directly attributing them to publicity stunts - and that's in most cases recently reported. Good, the problem is resolving itself.
A similar thing happened to Matt Damon when he had the audacity to state that putting one's hand on someone's knee is not the same thing as rape. He got in a lot of trouble for that, and then some feminists said there is no hierarchy of abuse i.e. that touching a woman without consent can in some cases be equal to raping someone. What only matters is how a woman feels subjectively in any given situation and any objective standards are irrelevant. The feminists also said that men like Matt Damon should just shut up and listen, because they have no right to comment on women's issues as privileged heterosexual white cis men. They do not view people like Matt Damon as individuals, but see him as part of the privileged white man group, only trying to justify his position in the intersectional power hierarchy. Men have no say in this, and they only stand to lose should they have any criticisms. This will ultimately be a battle between individualistic vs. collectivistic women.
@Rau Le Creuset The Cavill issue is almost distracting from the fact that Stormy was guilty of unwanted, explicit, genital fondling, in one of the most inappropriate circumstance.
As a woman, I think that Henry Cavill's feelings are completely true. There are so many women out there who are "loaded, cocked and ready" to hang a man simply b/c they're men. Anyone who thought this man's statement was meant to be insensitive have serious issues themselves. Men are terrified now - which, I will say if you assault a woman, get involved with a woman with foul intent - then you need to be scared - but honestly, there are some pretty evil women out there who are just vindictive for no reason other than to just do it.
I'm all for women standing up for one another, standing up against the wrongs done to them by predators...but well, I already covered the other side of the coin.
Nymri 09 I think his statement was unintentionally insensitive. And it's important to correct ignorance, even if it's unintentional.
Princesscolex it's important to correct ignorance, but it's also important when you're doing that to not be disingenuous.
Nymri 09 Will you marry me?
Nymri 09
What type of evil are we talking here because sometimes that’s not bad thing. I mean just look at Bonnie and Clyde.
But according to the FBI research, there are more woman being raped than lying about being raped. Out of all the accusations, only around 5% were found to be false. So by your logic. Woman should be afraid of all men. Not the other way around.
Henry Cavill just said what many men are worried about(including myself)
+Lyn Charles
It's really not that simple. Yes, controlling your actions is simple, but some people will continue to blow that out of proporiton, even when you don't flirt.
Thystaff Thywill AWALT.
Henry Cavill: I find it's difficult to talk to women because you don't know what they will consider offensive.
Helen Price: I'm offended!
You can't make this stuff up.
ItilayItshay Not only that, people just start misunderstanding his point about society being offended all the time and interpret the message as a rape thing just because the word rape was used
ItilayItshay The modern left is a parody. Again, this only goes away once people stop apologizing and media stops covering it.
ItilayItshay ai don't think it's that simple. When he says "Now you really can't pursue someone further than, 'No'." he is complaining that he can't assume women are playing hard to get anymore, which should be a good thing. It isn't that hard to approach women without coming off as a rapist.
Henry Cavill: I can't pursue women after they say No anymore or I might be called a rapist
Anyone with a brain: Doing physical shit after someone says no is the definition of rape. Verbal is harassment
Amen! It only proved Superman right :-S
I feel like #metoo mixes really serious crimes like actual rape with, still important, but nevertheless smaller things like bad flirting resulting in uncomfort. That, as super man said, may lead guys to be afraid to even approach women cuz you can never be completely sure about the other sides feelings and typically in relationships there’s a little bit of a chase.
Yeah, you have to stop at "no" now despite me knowing a lot of parents that went through a "chase" where one of them had to convince the other to go out with them/like them.
Males afraid of women? That sounds like heaven to me. It's sad that you are simply overreacting and nothing of what you are saying is true. Women are not going to wait until they are raped to call out men for being trash. Sorry.
Yeah, I feel the same way. From the outside looking in it can seem as though participants in the movement equate the examples you gave; it would instill a sense of fear that ,"maybe the person I'm enamored with has that mentality".
I imagine the social dread would be crippling to impressionable minds that think their advances may be percieved as harrassment or at the very least inappropriate.
flower power feminazi tag is fun, found a feminazi
Helen price did nearly exactly what he was saying. She blew that out of proportion
Jay Animations lol he said he didn’t want it blown out of proportion and that’s exactly what she did. That’s hilarious.
Cavil has every right to voice his opinion on the matter, and not only that women are doing a disservice to themselves by not listening to what men have to say. If you want to create harmony, then you HAVE to remain open to hearing what the "other side" has to say. He is expressing a very valid point from the male perspective, and I know personally from talking to men that the fear of being misinterpreted in this highly sensitive SJW culture around women's rights is a very real thing. Just like the woman who exacerbated his fears into a silly "Well just don't rape women!" comment, she is essentially trivializing his perspective by being intentionally obtuse.
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Aaron Russo's testimony on feminism
Forget NATO. I want to hear what happened to the breakfast and if they still have any leftover pastries.
I want to know what kind of cheese they had.
Cole Costie : IKR, were there croissants, or strudels, or donuts?
J.J. Shank if the french were serving probably swiss cheese.
I could go for some croissants and camembert oh my goddddd I am going to the store when I get off work
I would have to side with Cavill on this one. He hit the nail on the head. The SLIGHTEST infraction in today's outrage culture could damage someone in terms of reputation and legality.
While what he said was a bit of a generalization. He's nowhere near wrong.
Even as a female myself, I completely agree with Cavill. In fact, the backlash he received completely proves his own point and just serves as another example of outrage culture. The backlash comments you shared have twisted his words so insanely so as to paint him as someone who cannot tell the difference between sexual harassment and asking someone out, when that was never a sentiment he expressed.
Like Trudeau said, differing perceptions is becoming a bigger issue with this #metoo movement. And I feel like Cavill's intention was only to express his awareness of and subsequent anxiety about these perceptions.
Twitter people just need to calm down.
Yep, as a girl, I'm with you too.
What he said was worthy of criticism. It isn't hard to talk to women without getting into big trouble, and framing it as "well if I talk to someone they might call me a rapist" is childish.
Mixed signals happen yes, that's normal, but saying that you fear being called a rapist is playing a solid victim card.
I give him leniency because as an actor there's a much higher chance of him getting false rape claims brought against him, and the fact that you can't take back what you say in interviews, but he still deserves to be called out.
Sahasrahla how is fear of being CALLED a rapist playing the victim card? I'm scared of being called a serial murderer, that doesn't mean I'm playing the victim card.
Sahasrahla He is a celebrity, in FACT his celebrity status makes talking to some women dangerous. Many women deliberately target celebrities to hook up and sell shit to the tabloids...and yes, allege rape too. Let's not pretend that this didn't happen.
yeah its me Just say even as a human. No human should have a problem with what he said.
I think Henry Cavill said what he said out of fear. He has a lot to lose if his advances to a women is taken out of context. If i had the position and money he has, I would have that fear too. A false accusation can be disastrous to his career. This is from a man's perspective, and my thought on that matter.
Cavill said "I just stop at no before it gets blown out of proportion"
and that got blown out of proportion.
lol does that prove him right?
EverythingisEverything He's complaining about having to stop at no.
jmarie1295 Wrong.
WillTheProdigy Really, he seemed like he was being positive about this "new rule" to you?
john anthony Not wanting to listen to someone's lack of consent is part of the problem.
I think he would argue a great deal more nuance than that. I also think that he does indeed have a much larger lens on him based on his fame in regards to any interaction he has with someone he is trying to make a connection with.
I think what Cavill says is true to some extent, it really depends on the person. Last week a friend of a friend got labelled as a "stalker and harasser" because he asked a girl at work if she wanted to hang out sometimes, she replied: I'll think about it. A day later she's not at work so when we were hanging out he texted her to see what her response was. She did not answer but the comment was seen. Fast forward to a few days ago, the girl's friends at work called him a stalker because he went and DM"ed her outside of work (they said something about unprofessional behaviour?) and when he tried to REASONABLY tell the girl to stop her friends from calling him a stalker in public she said something along the lines of : "if you keep harassing me Im going to file a complaint to human ressources is that clear?" I was COMPLETELY dumbfounded. My friend is not in the habit of lying so there were no doubt his story was true. But me and my friends were like wtf... Important to remember the girl never actually refused him which he kept insisting, she said she will think about it and the second time she did not respond. Im legit here thinking if I were in his shoes WTF am I supposed to do??? Will talk to him soon hopefully its all cleared out and she wasnt actually serious.
EDIT: Someone mentioned my friend not understanding what the girl meant by "I'll think about it" (she most likely wasn't interested and didst want to come off as rude). Even if that was the case, after she ignored him on text he understood she was wasn't interested and let it go (we were all there when he saw the "seen" message. But the next thing you know he comes at work and... THAT happens,. She clearly has a problem and escalated the situation for very BAD reasons. You cannot at all make the argument that my friend was actually stalking this girl because he DM'ed her outside of work.
well sry your friend just lost is job, well at least it can file at court the law the company he was working and maybe get out whit money.
But this situation is blown out of proportion, and I AM NOT telling this story to undermine the reality that some women are ACTUALLY getting harassed irl. Its just that in this case its CLEARLY an abuse of power.
Ian Peng - this happened to a friend of mine. He an the girl actuary did hang out on a “date” on night. He cared to hang out again and she said she couldn’t because reason A. A few days later same thing reason B this time, and so forth and so on. She started calling him a stalker but what it was was she wouldn’t just say no. Instead she kept coming up with excuses as to why that time they couldn’t chill but leading him on like she still, just couldn’t “that night” for ...reasons...
Ian Peng there are many things I can say about the situation you described. Some in favor of your friend, some in favor of the girl. But I'll ask you this: don't you think if she were REALLY interested she'd have said yes? Don't you think that it is just not worth trying to go out with a girl who is clearly not showing excitement to go out with you? I don't ask guys out, but if I did, NO WAY would I ask a second time! If you have to think about it, then you arent interested enough. So long!
Crusender he didnt say he lost his job.
I understand what Cavill was getting at. You can never know what another person is thinking so you can't know if you crossed a line because many women won't speak up at the time so that everyone knows where the line is (because where that line is differs from person to person.) So Cavill could be behaving in what he thinks is a perfectly appropriate manner and have the woman he is talking to later complain about his inappropriate behavior. It could be resolved if everyone would speak up when they think someone is behaving inappropriately but that isn't going to happen.
Not to mention the fact that there are plenty of people who are using the current political climate to take advantage of the inequality (in favor of women) to inflict harm or profit financially. Such people will always exist, which is why we cannot _ever_ just 'listen and believe.'
For the record I agree that people should communicate better which would no doubt help in certain situations, but there is no guaranteeing that the female in question even _knows what she wants at the time._
Feelings be hanged, justice is more goddamned important!
"he didn't say ninjas" made me Muttley laugh
Ashley Storrie ninja please
Henry has a point. In this day and age, if you’re in the public eye, you’re walking on thin ice. You can’t say or do anything without facing some sort of backlash, especially when it comes to the whole #MeToo movement.
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"Specified Anatomical Area" I'm laughing so much omg
EveryDay I am going to use this.
WENUS!
I think the outrage for Cavill is dumb. He was just trying to explain where he is mentally on not knowing possibly whats to far and what is not. If he pursues a girl after saying no, that means he didn't give up, but then again that lady then can be like he wouldn't stop/rape. I get his concern. He's not saying anything against the Metoo movement, he's just not sure if someone might say he went to far when he didn't. But that's my 2 cents.
Fullthrottle Auto yeah it's pretty sad, damn people are dumb
It's just outrage culture at it's finest!
Fullthrottle Auto basically this society is so far left itw not even funny like if you look at someone for like 10 seconds or a split second they claim you harass them
Rocel Ann Rogers The problem is that there is nothing wrong with what he said. They got angry because he had a legitimate point on how far someone like him could go before he gets accused of rape. That woman proved his point.
DustyO'Rusty Yeah. It sucks that people will believe a accusation of rape than let it be investigated and found to be false or true.
I’m a female and I fully agree with Henry Cavill. He wasn’t blaming the MeToo movement. He wasn’t saying the flirting and harassment is the same. He used the work ‘rapist’ as an exaggeration, not because he doesn’t know the difference.
The MeToo movement is great. It stops people from being harassed. But with every great thing there are always assholes.
E.g. when the ‘convicted rapists go to jail’ law was implemented in the UK 🇬🇧 it was great. But guess how many women have claimed false rape just to put someone in prison, and ended up going to prison themselves for wasting police time? There are always people who do things for they’re own Benefit. Ruin other to get something out of it.
The MeToo movement is great. It shows what not to do. But when something is so broad. It’s hard to know what TO DO. especially for guys that can easily be portrayed as predators. One girl seeing it as him wooing her/ chasing, is another girls harassment. Unlike rape where it is either a yes and a no.
Where is the line drawn between flirting and making someone feel uncomfortable
Especially for a celebrity. Where a girl can EASILY say he made her uncomfortable, just to get fame out of it. And he’s whole life is fucked. Not all girls say go away. Not all girls say leave me alone.
So Cavill goes up to a girl, saying hi, flirts a little and if she goes no. He leaves. He is in no way someone who harasses others and in the fear of being perceived as one, he leaves the situation alone completely. He isn’t blaming MeToo for that. He just doesn’t know what to do. And if a girl ever says she wanted to be chased or ‘why did Henry give up too quickly’, it’s because she said no. And he didn’t want to cross that line.
I understand where he’s coming from. I think he’s right. I think he shouldn’t of said ‘rapist’. But other than that. He worded it perfectly. He shouldn’t of backed down. He was speaking for the million of wonderful men who in no way want to harass anyone and because of the are scared to even approach a girl because of it. It was sad that he had to back down. Cause you know, they knew exactly what he meant.
‘Each girl has a different perception of what harassment is. MeToo stop the disgusting pigs, but is scary for the good guys. And that is in no way the fault of MeToo. It’s just how it is’ ✌️
thank you for your well-articulated post. i caouldn't have said it better myself.
He has a valid point and it's a shame that he is getting hate for it online. As a male, I think the MeToo movement did affect the way I approach women. Instead of trying to win them over, I just back off as soon as they say they aren't interested. I think I've missed some opportunities because a lot of women say no initially to not come off as "easy" I guess.
Its true I'm not even sure how to approach women now a days. Do i walk up to them and say hi? Or do I need a straight jacket and a sign around my neck promising I won't rape them with consent forms stapled to my body ?
Hafsa Gurey It seems all he said is I'm erring on the side of caution. Not a bad policy for anyone, much less a celebrity.
Henry Cavill's position was basically proven by the fact that he received backlash for his statements.
I think Henry Cavill's statement was reasonable for what's been happening recently. There are many women out there who will falsely claim rape against a well-known individual just so that they can either ruin that person's reputation or make themselves famous or they over-exaggerate a perfectly acceptable social interaction. You cannot tell me that that doesn't and hasn't happened. It has. I think what he said is completely true. Some women abuse the rape whistle and it's making those that pursue them live in fear so much that they're afraid of asking them out on a date. In fact, some Teen Vogue columnist wrote on Twitter a little less than a year ago, "I’m actually not at all concerned about innocent men losing their jobs over false sexual assault/harassment allegations, If some innocent men’s reputations have to take a hit in the process of undoing the patriarchy, that is a price I am absolutely willing to pay.” and that's pretty fucked. There are women out there that are perfectly okay with ruining innocent men's lives with false sexual assault claims. These are the times we live in.
The thing about Cavil is, he's not talking about the Weinstiens or the Cosby's. He's talking about the guy's like Aziz, and Chris Hardwick, that get pulled into Metoo without doing anything illegal.
eon001 but they may still have done something inappropriate. It's not fair to accuse them of something illegal but definitely outing behaviours which make women uncomfortable is necessary.
One of those things is what Henry cavill talked about, persuing women after they say no. Obviously some people like being chased but ultimately if someone indicates they don't want to be hit on you have to respect their decision.
Inappropriate behaviour shouldn't be outed under Metoo movement, but is definitively something to talk about. It makes no sence posting your subjective experience on Twitter without telling the man what you thought he did wrong.
You have the right to life, liberty and the *pursuit* of happiness. You don't have the right to not feel uncomfortable or not be offended. These complaints and expectations are flying straight in the face of human nature and biology. There was absolutely nothing wrong with what the man said and he had absolutely no reason to apologize. Women have an unfair advantage when it comes to the law. It is time they became responsible for their own actions and stop being handled with kid-gloves. Women want to be equal, cool, I agree with that...but that doesn't mean they get special treatment and consideration.
Dustin Wrye yes and in the persuit of my own happiness I will ostracize anyone who disrespects my decisions by continuing to persue me. It doesn't matter if it's illegal, social norms have a massive impact and I don't think he should apologize because it's obviously what he believes and he has a right to believe that. But I will not respect him and that is my right.
Dustin Wrye and also it isn't "special treatment" to have respect for someone's decisions. If a man came onto you and you said no but he continued to hit on you then you would react in the same way
Well, that woman pretty much proved Henry Cavill’s point
EXACTLY! He stops at "NO" and it's still not enough!?!
exactly. You can't say anything right. He had to apologize for nothing to save his career
True the poor guy; people have to walk on egg shells now days.
Your right. I'm a woman n I get what he meant. Now days you could be a mute n someone will be offended by you lol
Mathew Omolo nah mate cavil worded his point so terribly that he knew there was going to be only reaction. He has a valid point but the wording was terrible and in reality said it like this to probably get some more media attention
Cavill’s statements portrays the exact thing it preaches about. He gave his opinion about an issue (in hopes to express, not to insult) and it gets taken as an insult and the backlash causes his career great danger. This is in the same way a women may mis-interpret an honest attempt from a man who is trying their best flirt and get her number and may be called out for not giving up after asking once.
Our society is becoming too sensitive.
Yes but if they don't give up chasing a woman who didn't want a relationship then that's aproblem
I think Henry just went on a tangent that shouldn't have been publicised in the way it was, I think the interviewer should have clarified like "This was his words on his worries" so people understood that he didn't attack the movement, because it didn't seem like he did. To me it's clear that he was venting about issues he's had with women who say 'NO' without meaning it, which I can agree with. I think it's ridiculous that people still say 'no' as a joke because they want to be chased cause that blurs the line of the truth behind 'no'.
brrylln the movement needs to be attacked. Believing women or anyone simply because they say it is wrong.
Oh yeah it definitely needs to be questioned, I just meant that i don't think he was attacking the moment for the sake of attacking it, but that he was making valid criticisms, but yeah i see my wording was a little off. But yeah the points he made are really important and we really need to back up the moment cause it feels like people have already forgotten that it was to stop victim blaming and force police to actually investigate rape allegations so rapist could be caught. Instead of what it is today of just a whole 180 cause that's not any better.
Cavill is sensible and that's a no-no as far as SJW's goes. He knows that some men do terrible things but he also knows some women *LIE* . He wants to protect himself and no one in their right might can blame him for that.
yup
Adam A have you actually looked in to the stars? It’s an insignificant amount of women who lie but an ASTOUNDING number of rapists who walk free
Sarah, you understand, of course, making such a claim requires *proof* that they are in fact rapists. A claim is not proof. I understand female in-group preference but we live in a society that requires more than just someone's word. The problem is that many people allow their own biases to interfere with their ability to view the issue objectively. Think of it this way, if someone were to accuse you of abusing your child and the state came after you, you would want to see their proof of the claim against you. And rightfully so. No one should have the ability to destroy someone with a mere accusation. Proof. Proof. *Proof* .
The commonly held belief that women are sugar and spice and everything nice is from another era when morals and values were important and instilled in children so that the likelihood of men assaulting women and women lying about being assaulted were low. Today we have helicopter parenting, single parents that pay little attention to their children, indoctrination(third wave feminism plus single motherhood almost always equals man-haters for instance) from people/institutions with agendas, etc etc etc ad nauseum that have produced at least one generation of very troubled people that have little to no moral compass and have learned how to get what they want no matter the consequences to others.
What's troubling is that I acknowledged that there are men that do terrible things but you had trouble accepting that there might me more women than you're comfortable in accepting that might be equally terrible.
Rapists walk free? Do you have proof of that? Because if there's proof those rapists get thrown into fucking jail for being human waste. But what happens when a female falsely accuses a man, the man goes to jail, and then they find out she lied? Absolutely nothing happens to her.
Sad, but true DatGrunt. There's a double standard that shouldn't exist in a court of equity. In a just world the false accuser would receive the punishment the falsely accused would have been sentenced to. Beyond that, it seems some don't understand that rapists aren't viewed positively by other men. In fact, the last thing they should want is for other men to know as "accidents" tend to happen once it's known. Damn shame really *sarcasm*
I think it's outrage culture. He was just saying that he stops at no. But even you take parts of this stamen and interpret them as horrible. But when you look at the message behind the whole statement it wasn't made to be offensive.
Sebastian Smith Helen price completely over reacted and misrepresented him and proved his point.
That’s why we should all be weary of the metoo movement. A Helen price could potentially derail Superman’s career.
Sebastian Smith Thank you for wording this better than I could.
Hellen didn't blow it up, he did. What he said was just a dumb statement then again he said it was made to look that way by the magazine. Like come on!! I can't flirt because someone may call me a rapist? That is crazy lol it's dumb exagerated statement. Like me saying oh no I can't flirt because I'm afraid I will get rape, exagerated dumb statement. Not all men are rapists not all woman are false acusers.
He didn't help his case by using the word rape, which Helen Smith then immediately latched onto and used to support a strawman argument. He should have said "sexual harassment" which can certainly apply to any situation where the woman's take on a "flirting" encounter is different than the man's.
MeToo is a weapon to be used against people.
Fully back Cavill on this one. It's a regular conversation with my males friends now where we find ourselves having to watch out for imaginary lines that we might cross. Not the actual bad lines like rapes and harassment, but made up ones that no one but the offended can see coming. I know plenty of girls who like guys to "work for their affection" and even though I'm not a fan of that mentality myself, that's their choice and they end up missing out because of other people.
If a girl says she’s not interested, leave her alone. I promise you it’s not difficult.
Really? Then maybe date women and not girls who give mixed signals is more the issue. Mature adults give clear signals about their interest. No means no.
It's simple, lead but don't touch. Offer a hand for her to rest hers on but don't grip. Touch her shoulder or back after she touched you first. Let her have the opportunity to back away if needed. Ask her about her interest, get to know her a bit. If you get rejected then move on.
"If you're approaching women in a way that's uncomfortable to them"
And how exactly is that defined? Some women are so anxious and shy that asking them what their name is makes them uncomfortable.
There either have to be clearly defined rules, or we all need to be a little more relaxed when people go a little too far once.
Serial sexual abuse over decades needs to be distinguished from a slip up.
Netflix has regulated employees looking at one another for too long, for fucks sake.
How can anyone argue this hasn't gone too far.
Some people seem to be of the mindset that it's ok to condemn and destroy the lives of innocent people as long as you eliminate all the potential bad actors, which is just insane.
Henry Cavill is right. What some women consider innocent flirting others consider sexual harassment. You never know which type of woman you're dealing with. Who in their right mind would have the confidence in approaching women and making the first moves on everything if there's a decent chance you can be called out for harassment?
HUGH MONGUS
Then those same women who cry harrassment will wonder why their alone in their later years. Sad state of affairs the west is in.
Or maybe you're just awful at flirting lmao
Lol relax Tom.
And jokes of a sexual nature being described as sexual harassment in this day and age I’m sure you can see the line is only getting finer between how you can and can’t flirt.
Or maybe the world doesn't revolve around a women who feels entitled to every ones actions.
I think his point was valid but just articulated poorly. Btw if a girl says no only to see if you'll fight for her, don't bother. That kind of girl is immature and likes minds games; save yourself the time.
Erin Isler ^^^THIS!^^^ WHY DOES THIS NOT HAVE ALL THE ATTENTION?!
Erin Isler As a woman, what are your thoughts on legalizing sex work?
Well sex work itself I have no problem with. Unfortunately trends show in places that sex work is legalized trafficking rates tend to rise. So maybe if you could stop the rise of trafficking with the legalizing of sex work then yes do it. But if not its not worth it. It's a very complicated situation.
@@vivianaramirez8485 I’m late but I agree. Unfortunately nuanced comments seem to go unnoticed when there is a polarizing issue. And yeah instead of getting worried over a girl’s mixed messages just find a girl who’s more direct and better at communicating. Works for all parties involved.
But I also think it’s good to understand that sometimes women won’t give a direct no because they’re scared that the man will act out violently. Looking at body language is also key.
To be honest i completely agree with Henry.
Joshua Koy I know, for him it's worse, as being a celebrity, one false accusation from a woman can lead to the demise of his career.
So I could see where his fear of it comes from.
#MeToo
Honestly yeah
he basically said "im tired of having to walk on eggshells fearing backlash from feminists"..........and he got backlash from feminists for saying that! XD i feel sorry for the poor guy
You are the PRETTIEST princess, Phil
I don't blame Henry. All it takes is one single allegation -proof or otherwise- to immediately and completely destroy a man's life. He's playing it smart.
yup
Agreed
The irony of superman being afraid to talk to women because of an overreaction or misunderstanding gets an overreaction. Might be why women scare the hell out of him.
There we go! If the guy is that concerned about being labeled as a rapist, he must not know how to converse with anybody
Jackson Goerges you misunderstood the OP. They're saying this outage is justifying his concerns 100%.
Septic Neuron somebody needs a girlfriend lol such anger towards a whole group of people as if a few women define all women 🤦🏻♀️
So theres never been anyone innocent accused and theres nothing to worry about when meeting a woman you know nothing about for the first time? Just because your not crazy and wouldn't make false claims doesn't mean all girls wouldn't, it happens more frequently than you think.
Incels detected in the comment section....+Septic Neuron I like how you say 'soon we'll have sex dolls' as if you don't already have a basement full of them!
What cavill said is very accurate. There are a lot of people who will make false claims on famous people for their 15 minutes of fame. He wasnt downplaying me too he was saying he has to be careful as someone in the public eye.
First reasonable thing I've read here..except that Phil is a pretty pretty princess.
Superman should never apologize, never especially not to those snowflakes on Twitter.
Kol2388 he had for his career sake
But in his apology he didn't take his words back, he's just sorry if he offended anyone and thstbthes mistook his point
Like saying "I'm sorry for saying the truth"
Which is why sjw still mad saying the apology wasn't enou
The backlash and his apology basically proved his point
Kol2388 I guess twitter is an adult woman's tumblr
The more people overplay something appropriate, like Superman's completely understandable statement, the more difficult it becomes to listen to actual warnings of misogynists and people who lack empathy. The boy who cried wolf and all that...
Shady Doorags
Amen!!!!!
lol. I like how people in the comments are just referring to him as "Superman" XD
True dat. It's just like racism or homophobia now. I just can't take it seriously when you're calling someone a homo hater because of where he got his chicken sandwich. And its not like he announced it either, he just answered their fucking question. And he never said shit about #MeToo either, that's just more chicken sandwich logic.
or some black kid with a newer iphone than you wants special privelages because a while ago your great grandpa wasnt very nice to his great grandpa.....like wtf why are we bothering with shit like that when theres real racism to fight
noxasdetovi Yet a lot of men are told that if they stop at "no" that they gave up too soon. By women. So, ya know...
Playing hard to get isn't a fictional phrase.
Cavill says he doesn't want to pursue women romantically because if he says or does something they don't like it could destroy his life and career. In response to voicing this fear, people don't like it and... Well, you see where I'm going with this. Way to kind of prove his point, I guess?
The irony is the overreaction to Henry Cavill's fear of potential overreaction essentially proved his point for him.
exactly what I was gonna say.
I 100% agree with Superman.
And I’m a chick
Funny thing is, the backlash that Cavill got is a near perfect allegory for what he was talking about in his original statement.
At least thats how I took his original statement.
It is in fact a real awkward time to talk to women, for men. We live in a time now when things that would be taken as a joke or something similar, a few months or years ago, are now looked at in an entirely new light and or completely not okay.
Until this adjustment period dies down, it will continue to be awkward.
A well thought-out and reflecting comment that sees the bigger picture - what happened to the internet?? Kudos to you good sir bringing up the adjustment period. Have a nice day
I see what you did there.
"If he doesn't want to be called a rapist then don't rape anyone." Helen must be seriously misinformed about the way the world works; the number of people who have been falsely accused of rape whose lives have been RUINED because of those accusations is absolutely disgusting.
What is that number exactly?
troublesomebirdsong Yeah, BirdSong. What is that number? If you're asking him, you seem to know the answer.
YakAttack just like how Matt Damon got attacked from expressing his opinion.
Lmao just watched that video 5 minutes ago
troublesomebirdsong
Well according to the FBI, around 2 to 5% of rape claims prove to be false. And innocent men rarely face rape charges.
Also according to the FBI, men are more likely to falsely accused and exonerated for murder and theft then rape.
I can’t find the exact number per say. But I’m assuming that percentage is over a period of years. So it’s not that common for men to face rape charges.
The internet is good at one thing. And that’s blowing things way out of proportion.
On Henry C. I heard a woman say that men need permission before saying hi to a woman or it’s rape. I don’t think anyone is playing the victim card, feminist need to also check the extremist in their group.
Juan Castillo they are all extremist now.....feminism completed all of its goals years ago. When the debunked pink tax and manspreading is the top of their list they are irrelevant and need to be disbanned.
Cavill got his points validated by the reactions and the backlash.
Aziz Ansari got in trouble for exactly what Henry Cavill's talking about.
That hostile response to Cavill kind of proves his point. He made a reasonable statement about our current society. Someone was willing to stretch that into a roundabout insult comparing innocent men to convicted rapists and insinuating that he cannot tell the difference between asking someone out and sexual harassment.
She also conveniently ignored all the high profile false rape accusations with her "don't rape if you don't want to be called a rapist" attitude.
Spot on.
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan. Its honesty so damn annoying
How was she ignoring all the high profile false rape accusations? (seriously confused)
Nameless Pup She said bluntly "Don't want to be called a rapist? Don't rape." That statement ignored the fact that many innocent men has been falsely accused of rape, and not all have been found innocent before their sentence. It's a stupid statement she gave, because the statistics justified Cavill's concern.
no one knew who I was until I put on the mask.
Honestly, I think the response to Kavill was ridiculous, because he's not necessarily wrong. You can't predict everyone's responses to anything you say or do, so while 9/10 women you talk to wouldn't find anything wrong with the way you approach them, whether you get rejected or not, there's still that one that could land you in trouble with the law or something because they took offense.
Dominic Campbell good on you for not going after white woman.
I have learned my lesson already.
And the worst thing is if a woman will get this to court she is most likely to win, compared to a man in court with a same case
*Akhen* Probably won't even make it there.
Precisely. It's a Faustian bargain; the chance of such an issue arising may be low, but if you DO interact with the wrong woman your career can be over.
It really irritates me that feminists can't understand that simple concept.
Ryan Annis not to mention there's practically zero downside to making such claims as women who falsely accuse men receive zero punishment. Ridiculous.
We can only hope that Cavill finds a woman who will love and respect him
adorably smug little bastard If only he settled in a relationship before his fame he could've lived better
Now it's hard to find someone who likes him for himself rather than his money, he's rich and famous aka the first target of witches hunt.
His best bet is to go mgtow. saves him from divorce which most women will commit and he will be turned into a wage slave as he loses his finances, property and especially his kids to the state and wife.
colbalt95 mgtow is only the way let burn it like Sweden
The S logo on his chest becomes the MGTOW logo... 😉😎
So Superman's biggest fear is when it comes to talking to women is for the talking to be misunderstood and an overreaction occurring. Only for the people arguing against it to completely misunderstand what he's saying and have an overreaction. Completely proving his point.
Ricky Williams, people are stupid, you summed it up perfectly I don't know how to add to your comment no jk
The problem Henry Cavill brings up is one that’s definitely prominent and especially prominent in his line of work and for someone with his level of celebrity status. I can see why he would be worried to peruse another female by being flirtatious as used to be the norm. He’s referring to the art if you will of flirting,It used to be sort of a skill that was developed where a man would work on pursing a woman and that was just the usual. Nothing rapey or anything about it but in all instances it was never fully welcomed by the woman. Take the movie the Notebook for example. Ryan Gosling literally is told by Rachel McAdams’ character that she hates him and never wants to see him again after he calls her beautiful and asks her on a date in the first 10 minutes of the movie. But after that he continues his pursuit and after several more tries they end up going on a movie date and fall in love. Now In today’s society can you imagine Henry Cavill pursuing a female co-star to the lengths of Ryan Goslings character and not have his name smeared by some tabloid calling him a sexual assaulter harassing woman in a work space with unwanted sexual advances? Of course you can’t imagine that because In today’s society it is almost rewarded to come out and say you are a victim despite the validity behind that statement. A female costar could gain public attention and mounds of respect just for making an accusation against someone as famous as Cavill, doesn’t even have to be true. So sad
I can see where Henry is coming from, as much as people hate to admit it, there is a bit of cat and mouse going on in the dating scene. But everyone one is different, every interaction is different. Some people like to play hard to get (male and female) Some people like to be woe'd. Which is kind of what he was getting at, he was getting at people playing hard to get, but he just stops at no. But as a public figure, he can't really risk playing the dating games you know? Is she playing hard to get, or is she serious? I don't want to risk the gamble so I'll walk away. I think that's basically what he was saying.
You are very very pretty Princess Philly~ XD 16:23
Yeah, the pretty princess comment alone was reason enough to give it a like today!
I wonder if someone hacked his teleprompter. If he uses one. Lol
Yeah that definitely earned a like.
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Basically what happened to Henry Cavill proves why his worries about culture these days are justified. He said something vague about relationships and the dating scene, then some people decided it was secretly a huge diss on them or their group and started their 9 to 5 job of being professionally offended, and smeared the internet with incendiary BS about the guy. Shit's crazy.
Haze This world would be a better place without Twitter.
The world is twitter
Kaleb Sok Twitter is a dying company and only clings by the few threads of money that the company happens to have from when it was actually profitable but it hasn't profited in a very long time
No, he said that he's worried about being called a rapist for flirting with a woman. That's not vague in the slightest. It is an oft spoken attack on #metoo, saying that all these women speaking out makes them scared.
Rather than try to understand the situation, rather that listen, you assume they are just faking being offended. You've already decided they are horrible people, rather than listening to their arguments.
Thing is, faking offense is actually quite rare. It is much, much more common as an excuse. And if someone is faking, they won't be able to keep it up.
I'd say the biggest problem in discourse today are all these claims that someone is faking offense. It's an excuse that allows you to stop listening.
And it doesn't work. It only makes these really offended people even more offended, since now you've attacked them.
You are right but I was referring to the people that use twitter and how it reflects how a lot of people think in the world
I’m a girl and in my opinion people are wayyy to butt hurt about the Superman situation. He was just saying that in this day in age it’s hard to go up to a woman and flirt without being targeted by other women. People just need to chill lmao
His fear is B.S.
More people live in fear of rape than those who live in fear of #metoo. Maybe the me too backlash is the actual "outrage culture "
Jediya Rahim - Danford considering how it is a lower standard of title 9 it is purely undesirable to be anywhere near that situation. Just look at aziz Ansari all of his shit has been on pause even though he was winning awards
It shouldn't be a "fear contest". Henry was right to talk about his concerns with approaching women especially being famous.
"You're a girl"? So you're what, 12?
Love your line about not being able to control someone's perception. You've hit the nail on the head, Philly D.
Henry Cavil never specifically mentioned the Me too movement.
This was simply just people trying to piggy-back the movement off of the back of a huge movie celebrity.
I agree with Henry Cavil here. I don't consider myself to be an overly aggressive person when it comes to flirting, but in light of the recent movement, I am a lot more cautious. I don't think the argument should be reduced to "if you don't want to be considered a rapist, just don't rape." That argument negates situations in which the pursuer thinks the person is trying to play "hard to get" but they're actually not interested. It turns out that in some of these cases, the pursuant will accuse the other party as abusive despite the fact that their intentions weren't malicious at all. I know it seems problematic to say that, but I also know people that like to be chased. I don't have a problem with those people, but I find that I'm afraid to pursue those situations because of the possibility of having my reputation ruined by somebody who interprets my actions improperly. I think that the answer is clear communication. I know that men have a price to pay for over-aggressive sexual encounters and I really am not trying to suggest that I'm a victim of the "me too" movement; all I'm saying is that it's unfair to suggest that reasonable and respectful men are not being affected by the recent "me too" movement. Some people take it too far. Some innocent people get caught up in the crossfire.
Maybe if all the guys stopped at no, these silly girls trying to play hard to get would change tactics. These mind games are just screwing with EVERYONE!
No, a lot of innocent people are the targets of the fraud “mE tOo” movement.
JIN 100% agreed. I'm married, whenever I or my husband try to hint that we want sex and are testing the waters we still ensure that there is clear verbal consent.
If you as an individual believe you are old enough to date, then you need to be fully comfortable being honest what you want. If you want to date someone, say so. If you dont, say so.
The best advice I can give you is to take it slow. If you're not sure if you're reading the situation correctly just go home and sleep on it 😁
Ive spoken to many girls from high school many years later after we graduated to find out that a lot of them liked me. I had asked them out when we were still in school and got a "No", which was fine, no issue there. But while talking years later after we graduated and finding out that many of them liked me too but still said no, i asked them why they said no if they liked me too. They told me because they enjoy when the guy "chases" after them.
Obviously people can go too far with their actions which in no way makes it ok but there still is something there.
James Wise Magic do you fucking english bro
Well that was High School, I suppose people grow up after that. Playing hard to get, what are people? Twelve?
Lord Voldemort you must know every single person out there then I figure if you can say that with such confidence. Just because YOU dont like playing hard to get doesnt make it so for everyone else. People having different interests and boundaries is the whole problem here.
Lord Voldemort highschool starts at 14 here in the US...
you underestimate the amount of immature people in the world or whom were taught that's how romance works.
Henry Cavill's backlash proves that #MeToo's kryptonite is skepticism. Not only are you not allowed to question those with allegations in #metoo, you're not even allowed to voice a concern for the alarmism found within the movement. That's an issue!
People have not only been called out for rape or sexual assault, but simply for making flirtatious comments towards women (e.g. Morgan Freman). If Henry Cavill tries to flirt with a woman and she feels it was unwarranted, she could easily deliver it to the press that she felt "uncomfortable" and now his reputation is tarnished. I call that being "#MeeTooed." How is that at all irrational on his behalf?
People like Helen Price mischaracterizing virtually everything Henry Cavil has said and jumping the gun on his implications is indirectly proving his point, ironically.
To add insult to injury, Henry Cavill apologized for absolutely nothing. He should've stood strong and defended what he said without apologizing. My pet peeve is when celebrities apologize for something they shouldn't be apologizing for because they have no backbone. When you apologize, you give fuel to the outrage machine and make their comments, no matter how idiotic, seem reasonable and just.
What do you all think?
Is it weird that as a woman... I kind of understand Cavill? I mean the nuances when it comes to approaching women is complicated because there is a great deal to consider. A lot of girls like the chase, a lot of girls don't. It's nearly impossible to decipher who is into it and who isn't at first glance. And someone in his position can get in trouble because of perception. Kind of like the Aziz Ansari situation. I don't know if there is a way of fixing this communication issue but it's there regardless.
sweetchocolatesecret Right, I agree.
I ultimately think the solution should not be outrage culture, just a better understanding of the 'two types of women'.
I'm a guy and I think a lot of women say no to men initially because they don't want to come as "easy". Women have different boundaries so you can't risk crossing that line or you could come off as a creep. I can sympathize with Cavill here because obviously his situation is in a much larger scale to the point where his career is on the line.
Agreed
Assume no means no, don't play the game, girls who like to be chased will develop a way to signal that.
Bearded Emperor women half the time when they say no it doesn't mean no even in a relationship
The fact that Superman dude has to apologize for that statement proves his point he was making.
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feminism ruins everything .... EVERYTHING
Seeing as I was accused of rape by a woman I personally didn't know when I was 400 miles away and the only reason it didn't go to court was all the video footage I had taken at the concert I easily understand Cavill's state of mind. Rape accusations get tossed out all the time and even if they are proven 100% false a good portion of those accused have their lives drastically altered or even ruined.
So until those that make false rape accusations get serious jail time for trying to ruin someone's life I'm going to be very hesitant of the dating world. Especially since I'm back in college going for my masters.
I just say ignore women forever and be done with it. MGTOW for life.
Alan J
How about no.
Boredom is one hell of a drug If you want to risk a false rape accusation, be my guest. Just know there may be consequences.
Alan J That's not really a solution.
You're just trying to appease the symptoms.
G.G. You do you and let me do me.
Not a fan of Superman but Cavill is 100% correct.
I think Cavill has a lot of good points here. Too many people and/or groups are too sensitive in regards to too many topics. Sure, there are an unfortunate amount of disrespectful actions performed in this world; however, I find there are also an unfortunate amount of false, misinterpreted or "cry wolf" situations that paint inappropriate pictures for attention. We've gone from an overly sensitive "snowflake" society to a full blown winter. #WinterIsComing is #WinterIsHereAndNotGoingAnywhere.
Qwazyd0gg I think #winterispermanent sounds a lot better.
Its especially troubling because he is a famous person. So if he would ever fall for someone or be interested in someone who isn't famous he would face further scrutiny of "he is using his power to manipulate her into being in the relationship." Two reasons that's fucked up: reason 1 being that it means people can never be people just because of their status in the public's eyes, and reason 2 being that you insinuate that adults (women in his case) can't have agency for their decision to date someone because they would be compelled to want to date someone rich and famous.
Sadly this is not new, back when I was in my early 20's so many cases of woman "having consensual relations " then saying they maybe did not say no, but it was still rape. That it was always in the back of my mind when I was on a date. If she said no then I was done and moved on. Maybe I read it wrong but now matter how good the sex could have been it was not worth jail time for something I would never do.
I think Henry Cavill has a point and people are just overreacting over everything..
its just nadia when Weinstein is behind bars, he could have half a point... not now, no with shitty laws and sexually uneducated judges.
its just nadia He stated that he can no longer assume that a woman is playing hard to get when they say "No" anymore. His fear of being called a creep or rapist for approaching women is definitely justified if his idea or courting them involves pushing through their boundaries or not accepting rejection.
Half a point?? People are being screwed and having their social life/career ruined by false allegations are regularly in the news.
I agree with Cavill. The majority of men do respect women, but we also feel we have to be extremely careful with ANY interaction and their perception of said interaction is beyond our control.
It only takes an allegation to destroy a reputation.
With regards NATO, America pays more as they get us into more wars (generally over oil).
Wait what? Nato doesn't get involved in those wars, it is more private. Yeah, America has more wars, but why pay Nato when we are the only ones in those wars.
johnsonthegamerguy101 maybe because once USA gets into the war, some of the countries in NATO actually do participate. Like soldiers from EU went to Afghanistan. Or even the fact, that USA has many military sites in EU countries means it uses somehow European countries to its advantage during wars, that USA got into.
Military bases which people complain about but when we threaten to pull troops out they complain that they can't defend themselves
Han Solo we need to pull out and remove the double funding were paying while the other nato shitholes don't even pay the 2% GDP since it goes to welfare and social programs. But these libtards think the US paying over 4% of our GDP is ok.
I've been meaning to say this for a while, but I always get notifications for your daily shows. You are literally my only source for news. I dont watch TV, unless its wrestling. And I dont watch any news on my phone either. I trust that everyday Phil with "fill" me in on all the latest stories and important topics. Thank you Philly D.
Helen Price just proved Cavill's point.
Cavill's statements shouldn't be tied to #metoo. #metoo is about people who have experienced sexual abuse but have kept quiet for various reasons. Cavill is talking about how some people may over react/misinterperet when someone they are not interested in approaches them, and Cavill fears that because of his public position and could seriously damage his career if he is falsely accused. Of course this is subjective of the person being hit on, one persons creep is anothers potential partner. And while there are many legitimate cases of men (and women) of going over the line and rightly being called out on it, there are also a notable number of cases where people have been falsely accused and have their lived wrecked by the mere accusation to being falsely imprisoned. What he is saying is he is scared of the latter situation and feels trapped by it. Then by bringing up his fears of being falsely accused, he gets shouted down. I feel sorry for him.
I think Cavill just had his point proven.
NintendoWolf 100%
Yeah i was about to way that.
Yea, he was talking about outrage culture. Then he gets attacked by the outrage culture. Some jokes write themselves.
NintendoWolf hell yeah
and this is why its not worth talking to women today.
NintendoWolf agreed
That "I'm not sleeping well" took me OUT! 😂😂😂 Same, friend. Same.
Personally I agree with henry. Its true some females blow small things out of proportion and than it gets misconstrued and hes just trying to avoid it at all costs.
Some women can also be very petty and use anything to ruin a man's life
Ya. All I see is a man getting a bit fed up with the false accusations by some feminazis lately and complained on social media in his own way. I get his point. No need to look too deep into it
The problem is that woman already made fake rape claims,and those was accepted without evidence and ruined some mans life. Its realy scary,and kinda a reason why i basicly do what the guy sad,going back to a realionship that doesnt work. Its still better than risking jail. Having sex with consent is risking jail,because the girl can be like yeah i regret that. It doesnt worth my freedom.
Couldn't agree more Tinamarie, I can't tell you how many good men... honest, loyal, trustworthy men are absolutely terrified of women now.
They know the legal system is built against them that if a woman points the finger and says 'rape' that the guy will spend the night in jail and lose their job and have difficulties ever recovering publicly even if proven innocent. Even if they've never even had sex or were even that close.
The feminazi's on twitter have changed the game... If a good looking guy comes up to them and asks one out then its okay, but if even an average looking guy comes up and says the same thing its creepy and scary... or even rape itself in their eyes.
In that kind of culture romance dies, chivalry dies not with a clatter of swords or a roar in protest... but with a whimper.
Tinamarie Adorno exactly
There is nothing wrong with what Cavill said. He had a concern about wooing women something that is legitimate in today's climate and voiced those concerns. The outrage was simply the internet proving his point. He was attacked and shamed for his viewpoint which was sad.
they just proved henry’s point hahahaha
Madison Ezell my thoughts exactly. She took it out of context and screwed him over just like he said
lol
Madison Ezell
Exactly that prove Henry's point
Exactly my most immediate thoughts. I'm glad someone else noticed the irony of that whole situation.
Agreed
I like how his interview was basically him saying "I'm afraid of being misunderstood, as a person in the public eye, in a way that is horrendous and paints me as a villain for doing something I never intended", and that interview led to him being misunderstood, as a person in the public eye, in a way that is horrendous and paints him as a villain for doing something he never intended.
He was worried about being misinterpreted and it was misinterpreted. Oh the irony
But it was 'misrepresentation' apparently...
Brother Ares I was thinking the same thing.
I understand what he was trying to say and I think Miss Price did too but she took it way out of context. He was just saying that he’s worried about crossing boundaries and he should be. I think it could have been said better but I understand what he’s saying.
Gotta love how it just outright proves his point. The sad part is that feminazi people agree blindly and continue to use fear to remove logic and reasoning from the argument. I can only hope sensible men AND women stand up to such stupidity in strong protest. Women especially have significant power here, to call out their own for their shit. Just as a man doing the same against another man for hypocrisy would have significant power there.
This comment and all the replies are like AIDS, but there aren't any drugs to manage it.
Any representation has a part of interpretation. I wonder how much he could have been misrepresented. Why did he apologize if he was misrepresented?
With the Story Daniels story, it feels like yeah, she was arrested for politically motivated reasons. And, of course, of course, *of course* it was because of the Daniels/Trump scandal. However, this probably isn't Trump directly trying to get her under wraps, but rather Trump supporters who work on the force hearing about Stormy's show. They found a law she could potentially violate as a performer at a strip club, and moved in.
Based on the record of when that law has been used to charge someone of a crime, yeah, it was completely unfair to do Daniels like that-- they didn't have a problem with it before, clearly. And, now that the charges have been dropped for Daniels, it's clear that the biggest effect this ole thing here's gonna have is she's back in people's field of vision again, and it's gonna end up helping her case, which I am personally 100% for.
I agree with Henry Cavill. That's why when a girl says no and playing hard to get, I just go away.
Wait she was working in a strip club and yet people are complaining she was touching them, I thought that's the reason to go to these such places?? Sexual assault in a strip club... FFS, what's the world coming to?!
Women calling out Henry Cavill for his comments are actually the ignorant ones who arent a famous male in Hollywood right now.
Boohooo poor famous males in Hollywood can't chase after a woman after she says no. THE HORROR.
MrKowalskyfication Consent is something that can be withdrawn at any point, before and after initiation. If he takes a chance on a woman who turns out to be emotionally unstable and capricious with consent, any resulting allegations she makes (disingenuous or not) will be absolutely heeded. But keep casting stones, mr virtuous
I'm mostly replying to OP who seems to be saying women out there just don't know how hard it is to be a famous male in Hollywood right now. Yeah it would definitely be awful to be falsely accused of rape but the METOO movement is an amazing thing. Yeah I guess I'll keep casting stones since I support rapists and people who sexually harass people facing consequences? And since I don't make the movement all about myself and my horrible life as a male? (Especially a super rich super hot super famous guy like Henry Cavill).
MrKowalskyfication I guess you are also ignorant since you are not a male in Hollywood either lol
**Cavil talks about how men are afraid to talk to women because some of them overreact and they don't want to be labelled perverts**
**women overreact**
I'm concerned by how difficult it is to tell when benign actions can be interpreted as criminal / Then just don't rape anyone! Yeah, doesn't clear up much there.
It's good enough to be a Monty Python sketch.
They say the worst that she can say is no, but that's a lie. I've never, ever, been told "no" by a girl I was trying to chat up.
On the other hand, I have been reported at work for sexual harassment, had friends of the girl hear that I am harassing her (which was news to me), been stood up after she agreed to meet me somewhere, and told to wait somewhere when I was actually being ditched. I've been led on in order get free drinks, or just plain had my money stolen. Naturally, I've had women lie about who they were, so i can't contact them later. Why do that instead of just saying 'not interested'? My experience with women is that they don't say anything directly to you, but will work behind your back, and talk to others, in order to screw you over in every way imaginable.
To top it off, when I asked girls why I was stood up or reported for harassment, she would say I misunderstood. Even at this point, I would still get LIES. If I was dumb enough to believe that lie, which I have been, then it just led to me getting hurt again. Why would a person reports me for workplace harassment, lie to my face about doing so, and then act friendly? I know what she did, because they had to tell me the name of the complainant. She was obviously just trying to trick me into a situation where I could actually get fired. It was incredibly hurtful. I never, EVER, got a honest rejection from anyone I have asked out.
I'm not going to pretend I don't have any problems. I've never had a girlfriend, no girl has ever wanted to go date me, so clearly I'm lacking, but the total lack of honesty on their part scares me. Life would have been much easier if they had said no, and now it seems that even talking about bad experiences, and how frightening it is to even try to be around women, leads to hate mobs forming...
In response to Henry Cavill:
It's such a sad topic nowadays. Can we just discuss that a man that literally IS Superman is discussing his difficulties with dating now, I think that should raise some eyebrows. It'd be easy to think that he'd have women jumping out of crowds just to meet him, and he's simply saying "I need to watch how I handle myself around women now." I know of other celebs and TH-camrs who bring out legal documents to be 100% free of liability and have physical proof that the other party consented.
Sources:
- TinyMeatGang mentioned it in a recent song "Stay Safe"
- Boogie2988 mentions his issues bringing women home with him, using burner phones so no pictures can be used against him, and signing papers as well, (Mentioned on the H3 Podcast)
- David Dobrik's vlog had Dom hook up with a girl, to which they made a point to notice that the girl signed a consent form, to which they made fun saying, "OMG you actually signed it!" (I wish I knew the episode number...)
Though I can understand that in some ways to see it as fear mongering, we can't deny that the way men and women interact now has changed. I understand it's not as serious as rape, but the fact that Justin Trudeau is in the news over what he conceived as small actions, it's undoubtedly starting a conversation. We're getting the conservative pushback, there are a lot of women out there who want sex just as badly as many men do, flirting shouldn't be complicated, and it's generally been easy to realize when one of the parties is no longer interested. Cavill is expressing his fear of trying again, flirting CAN be a physical act, and many people can read situations wrongly, one party may go too far because they didn't read the right signals, and the other side can see that as overly aggressive and blow a whistle on the whole thing, so I get the hesitation in just trying to flirt.
I also just hate the knee-jerk whiplash, let's have this conversation, the world has grown VERY politically correct and he wants to figure it out just as much as the rest of us. To me, I'm glad to see those in the public eye being this open about current issues with humanity.
BeyondPolygons yeah it should. But not the eyebrows you think.
Yah, I honestly feel bad for the guy. The whole point of his comments was just him expressing fear of public backlash over things that should be normal (like flirting), only to have that exact same public backlash happen over the comments themselves. I totally get the need to out horrible people like Weinstein but i dont think its hyperbole to say that at times the whole metoo thing can turn into a witch-hunt/redscare esque type of movement at times and a full on weapon to use against people at other times. Tl;dr - I wish people realized that admitting faults in their worldview/political side doesnt necessarily have to discredit everything their side stands for and infact makes it stronger, instead of just have that knee-jerk reaction to dissent.
PokeEmblem 692 yeah
You pretty much can’t do anything without being sued or called out by the left for offending someone
Ive watched and heard women saying that men they think are ugly give them the creeps. Imagine if those men attempted to say anything in this culture. Feminism is fucken cancer.
The fact that Greece is meeting that 2% threshold despite going fucking broke a few years back speaks volumes.
Greece is on pretty hostile terms with it's neighbour Turkey, the second largest military force in NATO (and supposed ally). Greece is pretty much forced in that regard...
Greece GDP is probably pretty low, it's easier to reach that 2% from the bottom of the barrel.
It definitely is, but it's also a lot harder on the economy
Hunter Mirr Greece and Turkey are the only NATO members recently fighting a defensive war. It's the US military budget that's truly abnormal.
You have to understand this: not all defense spending is military spending, but all military spending is defense spending. The United States of America sends $7 million a day in taxpayer money to Israel. Guess where that's filed in the budget? Under defense spending. The United States sends money ALL OVER THE WORLD to help other countries and their needs. Where is that money filed? Under defense spending. Understand that only half of our defense spending goes to our military. A majority of the rest of it is money sent by the U.S. and spent by other countries. If not for foreign spending, our defense bill would stand around $600 billion as opposed to over $1 trillion.