Netflix let's you skip the intro, we let you skip stories if you want! :) Insatiable Backlash(00:16), TIA(5:43), Dan Coates Interview (7:22), MGM Sues Vegas Victims (10:26), Nicaragua Protests (15:22)
All the people mad about the fat shaming are most likely fat or have a loved one thats fat. If you support people being extremely over weight then in my eyes YOU are the problem. You are telling people its ok to let yourself die faster because you don't have self control with food or lack motivation to lose the weight. If its a medical issue and you can't lose weight thats one thing but so many people CAN lose the weight but simple don't try and blame us on them being fat.
Brittney Santos I agree Brittney. I am from Nicaragua and it's so sad. My sister and parents still live there. Please pass the word. I help a small school in the country and I am trying to get the word out. The website is "we are compassion. Org" thank you. I have been to the school and they help kids and parents in Nicaragua
The whole Insatiable situation is incredibly ironic because the backlash was caused by people judging the show by the bare minimum that there is to know about it, even though they claim to be fighting against that very same type of judgement. Food for thought.
Phil, reference fat shaming, it happened to me in reverse. I was a rescue firefighter with a doctors note to weigh more than average because of the muscle content of my body. After several line-of-duty injuries, including a major back injury, I found myself unable to work out and my weight began to increase. Soon, due to those injuries, I was unable to walk any kind of distance and was actually confined to a wheelchair. Again between body changes and medications my weight increased even more. Add to that after my last surgery I took almost a year to heal, so no doctor will suggest even bariatric surgery. I've even had to retire from my job because of the pain and meds effecting my ability to concentrate. Not a great feature for an emergency dispatcher. Now everyone who doesn't know me assumes I'm in a wheelchair because I'm fat and lazy. Try working past that. It's the main reason I don't appear in my own TH-cam videos. My entire career has been in service to others and now no one seems to care.
As Bob Sees It That is so terrible! I am so sorry! I think the big problem with “fat shaming” is that people assume that weight is due to laziness and over-eating when sometimes it is not. People should just judge people based on who they are, not how they look.
Phil, I can't continue to say thank you enough for covering what is going on in Nicaragua. From my whole family there and the rest of us in the U.S., thank you for reporting and not allowing people to forget this.
Debbie Ryan has faced YEARS of fat-shaming and shitty people as well as went through a period of self-harm and an abusive relationship. I'm sure she didn't just throw those experiences to the wayside when she filmed this Netflix movie. Debby Ryan still isn't "Hollywood thin". People need to wait until they can actually watch a freaking movie before slamming the actresses in it.
RealToWonder exactly but the world we live in people get pissed over small things It's too hot they pissed It's too cold they pissed It's 4 pm on a Friday afternoon they pisses
YamiAlex224 well, you do know that fat shaming is a real problem and not a few killed themselves because their surroundings bullied them bc they were too heavy? fuck i hate ignorance.
In highschool, my crush told me he "just wasn't into fat girls".... 6 years later, I had lost 60 pounds and that same guy messaged me on Facebook to tell me how sorry he was for the way he and his friends had treated me through school and that he wanted to go out sometime. It felt so good to tell him I wasn't into assholes 🤔😄
I really don't get why people care so much about the Insatiable trailer. Just because the main character loses weight and only then begins to fit in doesn't imply that her fellow students' behavior is good or amiable and neither does the main character's newfound lust for revenge say that you have to be 'conventionally attractive' first and then you can get back at all your harassers. It's a god damn story, not a list of rules to live by.
I get why people would be upset but honestly they can't say that the show is promoting x or y for just a trailer; better wait and see than start a rage just to llok like an idiot after if they are being unfair.
Lol you don't get why? Because it's easier to complain online than go for a fucking jog. Also, the Netflix contract clearly states that you have to watch what you're violently opposed to or you'll be beaten to death by fit, attractive people. Simply not watching is not an option.
+Imakunipwns For real brother. A film doesn't have to even have a positive message. It's fantasy. No producer is responsible other people's actions. Vote by watching/not-watching.
Such a relief to see you cover what is going on in Nicaragua, just sharing and spreading awareness is already a great way to help, and would recommend those who can to do so.
I love this idea, it would give a much clearer picture than scrolling through the top comments, especially when the comments all seem to be about one specific story.
Anyone else skip over the Phillips daily Trump/ Russia story? Its gotten to be like those Ghost/ Bigfoot Hunter cable shows. I'll tune in once they find Bigfoot but until then... I don't care.
I hate the whole "fat shaming" things. It's like we're telling people its ok and healthy to be huge. I went from 340 to 190 in 2 years so I know what it's like being big. How would it have helped me if people told me I am perfect just the way I am and nothing is wrong. There was plenty of shit wrong like my BMI, blood pressure, blood sugar, cholesterol, heart rate, knees, and ankles. You don't have to tear a fat person down, but you also don't need to lie to them
I definitely agree that some people take it way too far, but you said it yourself we don't need to actively tear fat people down just for being fat. Should we encourage them to live a healthier lifestyle? Absolutely. But is it justifies to make them feel like less of a human being because they're fat? No.
The show is NOT fat shaming. It's so annoying that people are saying it is. It is GLORIFYING losing weight and becoming more healthy. Cry bullys are gonna cry. Nothing new.
It's actually be scientifically proven that right-leaning decisions are entirely formed from fear and discomfort. Leftism is fueled by feelings of security and comfort. Which sounds like a mental disorder to you?
I agree. Obesity issues are at an all time high and it's (obesity) mostly the fault of the sufferer barring a few underlying health issues. The idea that societies needs to stop pressuring people to be thin is absurd considering just how fat (and getting fatter) society is.
it's not fat shaming at all, if anything it's addressing the problem of fat shaming and how weight affects other people's perception of you. honestly, people are just looking for excuses to get offended at this point
Swan D 1. It shows you that someone bullied over it can start holding grudges to the point of vengeance. 2. It shows you how she was first bullied and after losing weight gets treated better. Now I ask you: how does it not adress those points?
I wish people cared as about Nicaragua, and general conflict and tyranny, as they do about Debby Ryan's show. I get that their complaints are valid and well intentioned, but people - kids - are literally dying. Priorities.
Emma Bax I personally feel like the reason why there are less comments about Nicaragua is that you the movie was the first thing talked about and there's more people that can relate about being obese. Though I'd like to see more talks about Nicaragua
We desperately need help as citizens, we are being murdered by the institution that is supposed to protect us. YESTERDAY THEY KILLED MY CHILDHOOD FRIEND T.T
US government IS helping us, we appreciate their support, they have applied the Magnitsky Law to different members of our corrupted government officials. But comunist don`t care about that, as long as they`re in power.
On the whole fat shaming thing. obviously its not ok to shame or harass anyone for any reason... but more and more it feels like its less and less about stopping bullies and more about normalizing and almost promoting being over weight as a good thing. The most common message along these lines that i hear everywhere, even in this video is "its ok to be fat"... and while i know the original meaning was "you shouldn't be judged just because of your weight because you are still a person inside", now a days it gets conflated by everyone and is taken literally as "its OK to be fat" that "its fine to live as over weight and obese and you don't need to change because its fine and normal". its like they have taken it a step too far just to be accepted... and a lot of time, not all the time, but a lot of time this new more extreme message is promoted by people who aren't fat, because they want to be inclusive. but by promoting it so heavily, by removing any reason for fat people to want to slim down, i think in the long term its going to hurt more then it helps. i also take issue with the "being attractive is just a point of view" thing to an extent. why wouldn't a physically fit human be generally on average more attractive then one who isn't? did i miss a memo? was evolution and natural selection completely debunked? or did it just never apply to humans for some reason???
I think the power of the "fat acceptance" movement is greatly overexaggerated. Like the power of the Nazi party in America. It exists, but the vast majority of people aren't actually being affected by the message. (Also, since you're talking evolution, being plump has historically equalled longer life, since you were less likely to starve to death over the winter when there was little food. It's only in the last century or so that we have a year-round over-abundance of food, and we have the luxury of being skinny.)
Its like people are trying to deny the social and even biological norms but not to people's benefit. The slim people tell the fat people they're fine while sitting back and enjoying all the perks of their better situation. Its also the classic situation of people cuddling others but not actually caring about them. Just as with any other habit/lifestyle/actions people indulge in its the very people who just enable you in your vices that lead you down a bad path simply because they don't care enough to help you change things they actually see as detrimental. This whole thing has turned into people basically telling others to not bother to improve themselves.
The insatiable backlash is 100% outrage culture. If we go down this route then what about those films which feature assholes? Are they promoting it? What about those which features revenge stories? What about those which feature dreams coming true? We all know how rare that is in real life but that's a similar 'perfection' story, just not about weight. If we were to denounce every story or piece of fiction based on them covering plausible but uncommon facets of life then no visual entertainment would exist.
nfzeta This channel is kind of becoming "today in outrage culture" a tabloid. Whenever your opening is "a bunch of people were angry today" you should run away as fast as possible. Phil should not be giving a voice to simpletons. Nothing changes until we ignore these people.
R T that is actually a fair point, but i think regardless of whether phil commentates on it, it will unfortunately still happen. Political correctness needs to crash and burn before future generations grow up directly involved in it.
nfzeta I would rather fat shame myself, than fat accept myself. It is not ok to be unhealthy. *Over abundance/production of glucose and insulin should be treated like drug addiction.*
I’m in Costa Rica at the moment and living fairly close to the Nicaraguan border and I want to thank you for talking about this. It is so heartbreaking and scary.
Question... Since when do movies and shows HAVE to have a positive message? I'm just going to assume these people are children who are still stuck in their Disney phase.
Charity Amis they don’t. Some great films don’t have positive messages. For example “There will be blood” is a story about a man consumed by greed becomes rich but also becomes a monster. Not a positive message, but doesn’t mean it’s a bad movie lol.
re: weight - I went thru the same thing when I was much younger. I lost a lot of weight and was treated very differently - especially by guys. It terrified me and I gained all the weight back plus more. I got up to 350 lbs. (or more - the scale topped out at 350). I finally decided to lose it again - I have lost over 110 lbs. so far. I HOPE I can handle the change in how people treat me better this time around.
Having gone through a dramatic weight loss journey and seeing how different people treat me now from then, it really pushes humanity into perspective, kind of a disgusting realization -- I also have deleted almost all my photos of me at that time, moved away from people that knew me then, and am almost unrecognizable. Feels good but feels almost empty. THE JOURNEY MATTERS -- let's see how Debbie shares the story of one.
Obesity is the real problem not fat people. Just like we shun people who use drugs habitually we shun people who are chronically overweight (sometimes less overweight than others) Maybe we shouldn't treat health problems like a taboo and actually set up a community and culture that fosters healing and growth.
lulux2 ...huh? Aaron just shared an experience of a friend of his where their weight has caused them weight problems. He didn't say that everyone who was overweight had those issues, or anything like that. He didn't insult overweight people or generalise or anything. I feel like you could have left your comment at the "my blood pressure is low/normal", as that would have just been you sharing YOUR experience, the same way Aaron shared theirs. That would have just been a conversation. Idk.
If you look at the mgm story, in my opinion you can’t hold the hotel responsible for the shooting. They weren’t cutting corners on safety as far as I know, and it was just unfortunate for them that it happened there. Plus it lines up with the 2002 safety act rather well so I would say that it’s not their fault. However, I do think that it looks really bad at a surface level for mgm and the exaggerated headline is the only think the general public tends to see, so I can se it going either way
Fletcher Vogt I think there’s a point that everyone forgets. The security dispatch at Mandalay Bay bungled something huge. Their security guard was shot and called it out over their radio. They delayed calling the police for at least 4 minutes. It may not sound like much, but that four minutes with an exact location could’ve helped police. They were already on scene, under fire with the rest of us, and trying to get people out. Many are also upset at the amount of exits that were available. The venue only had 4 for thousands of people, of which only 2 were immediately accessible. I was lucky enough, in a weird way, to not be able to get out until towards his last few rounds. They had managed to open up an exit that didn’t force you to run towards the bullets to get out. The exit thing isn’t necessarily my biggest problem with MGM, but I want to say it’s brought up in at least a few of the lawsuits. The original 1 or 2 had it listed. Personally, it’s disgusting that someone cheating in their casinos can be caught around the clock, but someone drilling an emergency exit closed in the middle of the day can get away with it easily.
My heaviest was around 290.(I'm 5"9' btw) I lost 130 lbs by eating less believe it or not. I actually bothered to count my calories and it payed off. I'm sick and tired of hearing these people say, "It's ok to be fat." It's not. It hurts. If you can't be comfortable in your own body, change it.
Unlimited I agree. I understand you shouldn't judge someone on their size, but promoting unhealthy lifestyles is so toxic. I believe if they taught nutrition in schools, America would be way less fat.
I agree entirely. I didn't really like how I looked, even if I wasn't huge and I set out to change it. I started exercising and am much happier with how I look, and it was one of the best things, I have ever done.
Yeah, i lost 60 pounds after I tore up a knee being fat. My husband lost 45 because he was prediabetic. Being fat is not okay, its not natural, its not just how you are. Its a series of poor choices compiling into a large problem.
I'm glad I used to be fat. It made me a better person by overcompensating in other aspects of my life. Now I am no longer fat AND I retained all the things that I learned when I was fat like winning people over with just my personality, and the importance of humility and integrity. I also learned the struggles of being fat, so I can shut down all the nonsensical rhetoric coming from the "tolerant left" on the issue. I was fat because of my own chosing and it was terrible. The worst part was, I was angry with myself, because I was the only one to blame.
Jerrad Johnson same. Dropped 40 pounds and now at a better position of health both mentally and physically. I took it into my own hands to learn healthy habits and how to integrate them into my life.
Jerrad Johnson meanwhile the very same people who accuse other of fat shaming them still are attracted , and fantasized about fit and/or muscular people. Best example of do what i say not what i do.
Jerrad Johnson I'm a fat guy who is working on getting healthier and I agree with you here. Idk if you listen to Bill Burr, but he seems to have a very similar mindset and even made a joke of it: "You ate your way in, you can walk your way out!" I get that today's method is to say that everything is fat shaming, but unless you have a serious health issue, everyone has the ability to lose weight so long as they actually put in the work. All that said, I would say the whole "jaw wired shut" premise can be miscontrued as "stop eating and you'll be happy" but it's a movie and movies are usually about extremes. Though, to be fair, it is funny to see some overreacting in the same way other people have been known to overreact. Snake eating its own tail and all that.
I Feel Pretty was a movie that was exactly that, she got a concussion and thought she was prettier but turns out she was the same as she was the whole time, it was just her confidence and people raised so much fuss before it was even out and knew what the movie was actually about. People just want to be mad. If you're mad, make content that is the stories you want, that's how you change things.
Shallow Hal, Shrek and The Nutty Professor are just three examples I immediately thought of off the top of my head where the person who became skinny ended up staying fat (and green, in the case of Shrek) and still had a "happily ever after".
Jera Damn! Based on your description (and slight spoiler?) I kinda want to see that movie you mentioned but then I saw others mention Amy. Is tye movie still worth it?
There is no such thing as “health at all sizes”. The body possitivity movement is moronic. No one should be shamed. But also no one should be encouraged to stay fat and unhealthy.
I see what you're saying but the idea behind that saying is that a person's weight doesn't dictate their health, and that's true whether you like it or not. The same weight on different people can look totally different, just as people who look good can be incredibly unhealthy.
I really get your point but size doesnt prove good heath choices, its just a superficial way to judge a person. You can be skinny and in very poor health, eating junk food, smoking ect. But you'll look "healthy" so you won't be judge
There's no such thing as '' Don't watch '' or '' If you don't like X don't watch / do etc Y '' . It's not something that's going to happen in real life much less the internet .
I'm so, so sick about what is happening in Nicaragua. It is truly horrible what kind of things will people do to stay in power. I feel with the citizens and I'm so proud of everyone who is protesting even though it endangeres their lives. True heroes. I hope they succeed.
Klára I find it interesting just how much of an attention grabber fat shaming is. I feel like violence against protest is far more important than some twitter beef.
You were not the same. You were more attractive, which is the first thing that guys react to, second, instead of hitting the Mac.. you were hitting the gym, which shows determination and a strong person. This attracts people a lot. I bet even your walk has changed. Your change was inside your head first and second was the outside. Fat shaming is horrible but in the same time when I watch "My life at 600 lb" I thank GOD for all the fat shaming I got in high-school.
Klára I always find it strange that no other countries come in to help the protesters in these cases, even the countries that have taken a stand against the government. I'm sure there's a reason for it but still...
Klara, Not so strange really. If citizens try to subvert the legal government, and the government responds with force from police etc, a foriegn nation can't step in and support rebels without inflaming the situation or possibly starting a civil war. It's not as simple as sending in the troops to calm things down. Tends to have the opposite effect really, it's a risk not worth taking for deaths in the tens, as horrible as that sounds. The world seems to be watching closely though.
Please keep reporting and raising awareness about the situation in Nicaragua. It's important to show people what a dictatorship looks like. The "terrorists" are just students trying to defend their freedom of speech and rights. And then the government escalated it, putting snipers in the streets and targeting civilians. Nicaragua is one of the most peaceful with the warmest people I've ever been. The fact that this is still going on after 3 months goes to show how terrible the situation really is. And because the media is controlled by the government, you almost don't hear about all of this. My heart breaks for my friends and family over there
I'm 6'0 and 340lbs my dude, but most people say I look 250 so I got that. when I was a kid my "friends" used to act like there was an earthquake everytime I came running up. But low self esteem made it hard for me to lose the pounds and now I'm just working on it at my own pace.
Don't give up keep going... Do it for yourself and for your health. Stay motivated. I know it's hard. But there are people who understand what you're going through and are right there with you.👍✌
I am overweight and have been most of my life. It is true, people do treat you differently when you’re overweight. This new series is very truthful. It’s not fat shaming or saying you should bully fat people, it’s showing what really happens. The Pitch Perfect series featured 2 commentators that said horrible things about people’s weight and race and women and they were posed as jokes and the hosts laughed about it. Yet there wasn’t a big stink made about that. How I met your mother featured several fat jokes. They constantly equated being fat as “the worst thing that could ever happen” and that dating a fat person was unthinkable and repulsive. However, that show was still a hit. Many movies and shows make fun of fat people and society has just accepted it and encourages it. News flash, shaming and bullying does not bring about change. If you’re shaming someone for their weight, you do not care about that person. Shaming someone for their weight goes one of three ways, they develop a disorder like Anorexia or Bulimia, they become depressed and eat more and gain more weight, or they get revenge and hurt someone. There is a very small number of people that do take bullying and turn it into a positive and start eating healthy and exercising and improve their health, but most don’t. Shaming and bullying are not an effective way to bring change. It would be refreshing to have a series with people of all sizes and never have a fat or a skinny shaming joke or plot line. Just let people be people.
If you’re genuinely concerned about their health, there is a way to go about telling them that you’re concerned and offering to support them emotionally through their lifestyle change. Overweight people know it’s not healthy and know they need to change, and often receive criticism from those they consider friends and family. It’s hard not having a support system. No one should be bullied for their weight. Like Phil said, they’re worthy of love and support.
I generally listen to your shows as background white noise whilst at work and I respect your opinion and biased/unbiased views on current topics and news. Being open about fat shaming hit me hard as I was in a similar situation to you in second level education and how people perceive me now as a fitness enthusiast. So much respect for you being extremely open and transparent about this topic. Thank You
+MrWaffelLP I think anger triggers more adrenaline which is the energy. If anything, more of that energy is being used on the fastest and largest form of communication (the internet.)
The backlash against Insatiable seems short sighted. Plus, some of the comments said they wanted a movie where the bigger girl doesn't get skinny and gains confidence on her looks. Only, we got that with I Feel Pretty and that received backlash as well. You can't win over anyone.
My husband and I were suppose to go support a church in Nicaragua for 6 months starting late last month, but our flights were canceled (by the airline themselves) early June because of all this. It makes me really sad seeing the country like this considering I've been going there for the past 7 years every year. Our friends live about 10 miles outside of Masaya and there's no food, no clean water, no work and no money. They say people are fleeing to the surrounding countries, mostly Costa Rica.
Yes!! I agree completely. I was a big girl and teased for it. Eventually I got tired of it and started hitting the gym and dieting, and lost the weight over summer. Came back to school and suddenly everyone(especially guys) started treating me completely different. Just pissed me off that it took me losing weight for people to see ME. I'm so excited to watch this series. Those bitching clearly haven't experienced this and just want something to bitch about.🤦♀️
This is why I think bullying is a natural and healthy part of adolescence. I was a fat kid but too, will never be a fat adult thanks to the innate cruelty of children :D Bullying literally added years to our lives
Tim Boulanger I’m not sure that’s always the case - there was a kid several grades ahead of me who couldn’t handle the bullying he received and took some pills to put a stop to it. He lost years off of his life :(
Sadly you cant change someones beauty standards you either find some1 who loves you as a big girl(not that hard tbh) and accept that he might have some weird fetish or slim down and widen your pool of men that might like you for who you are.Bcz lets be real if the shell is broken and looks ugly none sane will try to look whats inside. Thats the hard truth i realized like 8 years ago when i was close to 300lbs had to loose 120lbs just to look attractive for girls.
I watched an anime recently with a similar premise. In that one the girl didn't care, her personality stayed Nerdy like she had been before. The difference is that others were chasing her. They got ignored because they didn't want her before so why would she look at them now. THAT was a positive message, you are you regardless of the number on the scale.
By that logic flaws in airport security are in no way shape or form responsible for 911. If the venue was aware of gaps in there security protocol prior to the shooting which could have prevented the shooting, I'd say the hotel is culpable. At this point we don't know all the facts so I'd say its a bit to early to let them venue off the hook.
namespace lmao how does that even make sense? Both places have different policies and rules defining privacy and security. Airport security are actively looking for these such threats and have the rules and policies in place to find and take care of them and if something like 911 happens, then it's on them since they could have stopped it. Resorts and hotels on the other hand are not equipped or required to have that level of security. It's like comparing a minimum wage security guard to a police officer lmao gtfo
namespace Should hotels and resorts be required to put all customers through bag checks and metal detectors? What should they have done to prevent this?
I'm fat and I'm super excited about the show. I was bullied a lot in school because of my weight and other things, I barely graduated because I missed so much school due to the severe bullying. I love revenge stories and dark comedy. People take things too seriously.
Phil and his team are amazing. Without him, this news about Nicaragua would not have made it to a wide audience. Thank you Phil and team, for what you do.
SystemRichie yea I saw this in the news but not really because they only showed the girl crying but didn't give me more cuz they keep rerunning other old stories
As a Venezuelan, that lived through the protests here on 2014, 2017 and the ones happening this year, I can only imagine what the nicaraguan people are going through. I almost bursted into tears watching the footage. And I know this is not about me, but I just wanted to share my pain, I can't explain how sad it makes me to hear about all the deaths, the students, the kids, everyone. I just hope that it ends soon. Thank you Phil, for bringing awareness to all of us about this situation.
Veronica Capote I personally wish there was something that could be done to stop all the evil that's happening down in Latin America. I want to help it end
Gaming Dad yeah, I also think it's sad that the media doesn't cover this topic as often, especially when the white house has made statements about the situations, both about Venezuela and Nicaragua. As my country is allies with Nicaragua, they also don't cover it as the slaughter it is.
No one should have sued MGM in the first place. That's flat out wrong. It wasn't their fault. They weren't liable. Who the f expects a shooting where hundreds get shot and almost 60 people die? They aren't even seeking damages or money or anything, MGM that is.
I would agree, until you realize MGM let someone move over 200 assault rifles into one of their rooms. I mean, if you're at the front desk, and you saw someone bring bag after bag after bag into their room, would you not call a detective?
Fred P if you wanna go that deep than we can have a full circle and come back to blaming the NRA for providing gun to someone who committed a mass murder... I think the only points to be taken under consideration in this case is that did hotel arranged a proper security for the safety of customers ? The Answer is Yes they did... The security they had was approved by Homeland ... So imo they did everything to ensure safety of their customer.
Placement of the stories affects this. The netflix story is first. Nicaragua story is last. Phil almost always puts clickbait first and important stories last. Politics in the middle. (The exception is mass shootings are usually covered first.)
People aren't focusing on it because a Central or South American country being on the brink of civil war or experiencing large scale violence or killings is nothing new, it has been happening to one country or another for decades. It's just people get desensitized to it. Venezuela is a prime example, you hear very little about how far down the rabbit hole the country is. Should more people care, yes. If you believe in self-governance they should be left to their own devices. If another country steps in, they are blamed for interfering and installing a government that is made the way that country wants, and as recent history ( Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam. Egypt, Syria, Libya, Yemen ) has shown still leads to internal conflict. So what do you do?
Morgan that's why we're known as dumb Americans to the rest of the world. Most of our fellow citizens are too stupid and lazy to care about the real issues until it affects them.
So a show about a chick who loses weight and gets revenge on her bullies is problematic but a show about killing yourself to get revenge on a boy is totally kool?
Basically. Lack of ability to (read: desire to work at ) effectively change thier own miserable circumstances makes them angry at the world instead. Easier to blame everyone else for your own difficulties in life than look at the sole cause of them; yourself.
Rómulo Figueroa right, I was super surprised that people were so against it the 2nd season but it seemed like everyone loved the 1st one eh.. personally I don't like what the show claims to be (a psa, super helpful and what not), it's just a netflix show.
Hey Phil, love your show. Just wanted to thank you for speaking about Nicaragua. Just doing that with an audience like yours really helps spread the word.
I'm kinda in the Milo Yinappolis train of thought on fat shaming. Being fat isn't healthy or conventionally attractive. I think people can definitely say some very cruel things to people that are overweight. And I in no way condone that. But I think we should accept people for whatever they look like, but society should definitely encourage people to take care of their health. We just need to do it in constructive, and NOT malicious ways.
I think with fat shaming something that people don't always understand is that just because they look fat doesn't mean they are. I had plenty of friends that looked fatter than me, but could run miles and lift way more than I could in weights. Body types are different, you can never know someone's health just by looking at them.
Lincoln Wise how do you constructively tell someone they are over-weight to yhe point they will care enough to fix it and NOT be offended by it? The thing is if they had an issue with it they would do something. I dont think you can be *shamed* for weight so much as criticized for unhealthy habits and lifestyles.
Calling it "fat-shaming" is distracting from the real issue. What the film is showing is just plain bullying. Once you see it for what it is you can easily separate the health issue from the real issue.
Kermit of Rivia you got the wrong message. Now I'm not very fond of Milo but I have to agree with that. I used to weigh 269 and I've lost over 40 pounds. Instead of accepting fat shamers, we should encourage eating healthy! Being fat or obese (excluding the BMI scale cause it's so innacurate) is just not okay. Not because it supposedly makes people less attractive, BUT because it harms your body. I see this show as nothing more but the ideas that you can now do those things cause of weight loss. I wanna see a movie where is an overweight person who struggles, accepts she can still do what she can, can still be viewed as pretty, and in the end decides to workout and the weight loss be the last resort.
Within the last 48 hours more then 30 people of monimbo have been killed in the mountains near the city and in the lake in Managua. There are still 200 people hiding out in the mountains, they're being hunted down. #SOSNicaragua
An announcement went out two nights ago that the paramilitary was going to use facebook to hunt down and kill anyone who had spoken out against the government. My understanding is it's still happening.
Wtf.. Suing the venue for the shooting? That's like bringing charges against Home Depot when a psychotic customer kills another customer in their parking lot.
Mash Rien money corrupts everyone. But only once you can smell it. Meaning everyone pretends they're anti capitalist anti corrupt. Till they're offered big pay cheques
Society needs to get out of this pattern of unneeded overreactions. It ruins the points that actually need to be made. People are crying wolf way too much.
Cj Roxanne opinions are fine but most of these people don't treat it as an opinion, they treat it as fact. When you start doing something about your opinion then you are no longer treating it like your own opinion anymore, anyone that does is being ignorant and stupid.
On the fat shaming thing, I don’t think we should be bullying people because of their weight, but I don’t think we should be saying that it’s okay to stay at a weight that could damage your health. I hope that makes sense :)
How is mgm even responsible? Without breaching privacy laws, how were they supposed to stop it? As far as I am aware, the guy broke no laws until he broke the window to start shooting. I dunno but it seems like they are trying to protect them selves against a cash grab.
you know people.... will sue because the hotel did not find guns that "awsswipe piece of rotten shit satan's butthole" murdering psycho carried to his room, and will sue if the hotel wants to search their bags. Beautiful humanity.
Have you seen the videos about how the shooting went down?? It’s clear that MGM is partially responsible for the shooting imo. Maybe I’m biased tho because I’m actually from Las Vegas and I know some of the victims. Also, MGM has not provided any aid for the victims (from what I know of). H
Thank you for taking the time to spread awareness of what we Nicaraguans are living right now, hopefully this will come to an end. But really aprecciate just to know that some people would spend a few minutes and talk about it. Thank you Philip.
LavenousForever seriously especially when if anything going on right now warrants a WW3 it’s quite clearly the terror and violence protesters are facing in Nicaragua why can’t people care about that instead?😢
THANK YOU SO SO MUCH! I was this show every night and I'm so so HAPPY that you finally said "you do things differentLY" instead of different. I can move on to my next step of OCD now
As someone who's always walked the line between being heavyset and built/muscular (I've been both extremes, and am currently somewhere in the middle) it's important that we define the difference between not judging someone for their physical appearance, and ignoring the very real health concerns with being either overweight or underweight. Fat-shaming is a real thing, but so is fat acceptance. It's not "okay" that someone is not in good health, but someones personal health shouldn't be a point of societal targeting. The message of promoting a healthier way of life through nutrition and exercise (or whatever else you may need, using prescribed medication is perfectly okay!!) is objectively a good one. However promoting it via a medium of revenge and vindication is severely unhealthy and should be reevaluated. TL:DR Societal fat shaming is cruel. Societal fat acceptance is dangerous. Deliver the message in a way that promotes self love, and not anger.
1:13 Do people even know what the word promote means. When people are shown that something exists it's not considered a "promotion" of it. When the people who are fat shaming the protagonist are shown to be villians it openly discourages the act. Fahrenheit 451 doesn't promote book burning simply because it's shown to be a thing. Does this show promote murderers, school shooters, and "douchebags" because Phil mentions them? No obviously not. All of those examples are painted in a bad light and that openly discourages those acts to anyone that consumes the media Are these people actually stupid or are they just saying anything to make their argument sound reasonable? I think it may be both
Understanding the difference between "Promoting" something and simply depicting something is a skill the internet ( and maybe people all together) has lost.
Thank you so much for talking about Nicaragua. Thank you so much for noticing and spreading the word. It just breaks my heart, I never hear people talking about what happens in our poor Latin American countries.
Quick opinions 1) Verbally attacking people simply for their weight is reprehensible, period. 2) Using the broad term "Fat Shaming" to refer to any and all negativity regarding obesity is both naive and counter-productive. 3) Self-hate is a very real and dangerous issue, but the answer does not lie in simply shouting "fat acceptance" and moving on with our lives without taking responsibility for our own health. 4) Getting all worked up about a TV SHOW portraying an overweight person being bullied doesn't solve anything. 5) To place the blame of *any* of your personal issues on "societal standards" is to be irresponsible, and is to dig yourself into an unproductive rut at the expense of everyone around you.
Daniel Aguirre I guess I think the problem is not that shes fat and becomes skinny it is that she becomes skinny by not eating. Maybe if she spent the summer working out and eating healthy there would be a different response. But to me, it looks like a show that shows a overweight girl with problems, problems that get solved by not eating solid foods for en extended period of time. Maybe a show like this shouldn’t be targeted to middle school and high school aged kids.
Jonathan James lol your comment is funny because it seems like every show a guy doesn’t like is an “sjw” show. I even see these kind of comments on the amazing world of gumball videos.
Except there is. Reviewers have pointed out the numerous faults with the writing & messages, the show pretends to be starting a conversation without having anything of substance to say, Netflix even asked a mental health expert if the show was OK, he warned not to release the show, & then they released it anyway. This show, ironically, is so pretentious about opening people's eyes to serious topics that SJWs would be the audience most likely to like this show.
I'm not sure about the SJW controversy, but 13 reasons why is a representation of everything wrong with mental health. Hannah is manipulative, and ends up hurting people who have not wronged her. She blames those who have done relatively mild taunting to her for her death. The show also tries to state that living as a victim is better than coming forward, or seeking help.
David Hattie As someone who was bullied in school and suffered depression, I think it portrays how bullying affects the victims' mental health pretty accurately. But, then also as someone who has attempted suicide I do believe the portrayal of suicide as a good way to get back at the bullies problematic. It's also a fantasy. Bullies, by definition, lack empathy. They don't care about you when you're alive, and being dead won't change that. I think they should have promoted seeking help, and not romanticizing suicide. That's only going to push people with suicidal tendencies towards actually going through with it.
I was very heavy in high school. Around 240. Went down to 175 for the marine corps. I broke my shoulder, had a knee and back injury and got out. I gained a lot of weight around 270. I hated myself. It’s about self control and self love is taking care of yourself. Started keto and working out I’m down 70 pounds now. If I can do it all banged up any one can “self love” is making excuses. If you like being heavy that’s fine but don’t try and promote life style to young uns that is scientifically unhealthy in the midst of a obesity crisis.
i came to this video for some news and not even 5 minutes in you have me bawling my eyes out. love you phil thank you for being you. you are such an inspiration and i love watching your channel every day ( minus Saturday and Sunday =( )
Your explanation of feeling better after losing weight kind of made me think of my experience of just being a teen and growing up. I had been bullied relentlessly as a kid and grades suffered from it. But once I reached a certain age the bullying died out. I didn't change, I didn't gain muscle or became tall or anything like that.
The story of Nicaragua goes to show how people will spin a story to match how they want that story to be seen. The way the government was able to take the videos and make the story about how rebels are killing policemen instead of police killing civilians is terrifying. That's is some top teir manipulation and I just questioned everything I thought I knew. That's absolutely terrifying.
The US has done the same thing with Palestine and even Yemen before this year really (US media not government) although we did arm the saudis with the bombs to do what they’ve done in Yemen and funded Israel to be able to remain a dominant power in the Middle East and creating illegal settlements under international law on Palestinian land and expanding further
That's why you take everything you hear with a grain of salt. They do it because it works, so if people become smart enough to where it doesn't work, they'll stop trying to do it (or double down and end up hurting themselves).
I have huge problems with my body image and weight and am also very young. This is a source for most of the distress in my life and honestly feels awful. I am at a point where I physically can’t imagine being happy or even just okay with how I look. Thank you for what you said it made me cry with some form of melancholy happiness. You’re a great guy Phil.
I think it's more the whole "she wasn't able to eat at and thus lost large amounts of weight quickly" things that worries people more. As someone who's had an eating disorder, I can attest that there is a difference to losing weight in a healthy way and losing weight in a emotionally and physically damaging way. Personally, I can understand some of the concerns, but don't think that's the type of message the show's going for, and that it's wrong to preemptively pass judgement. It's best to leave the debate until after people can actually watch it, lol
Yes and no. That generally is what happens when you eat less, but the point they were making is that eating less typically involves a pretty serious eating disorder, which is obviously a bad thing. I completely agreed with them on that. And I get why people are so quick to defend the show, but I personally don't trust Netflix to do series like this well. Not after 13 Reasons glamorized suicide, and Atypical made a joke out of autistic people dating.
A lot of overweight people are that way not really because they eat more, but because their diet consists of mostly, if not only, unhealthy food. That's fairly common in America where fast foods are cheap and everywhere.
I watched 13 reason why, and I’m totally fine with this, not to mention I’m not at my healthiest state either and I think this movie or what ever it is is gonna be fun to watch.
It disturbs me. My parents who watch R rated movies all the time, and they didn't want to go anywhere near it. As far as I know, Leo just grunts and groans in the freezing (REAL) cold to get an Oscar...
JakeSpacePirate E it depends on what you want in a movie. If you need action and attention grabbing scenes every 10 minutes then it may not be for you. I myself don’t mind movies that take a while to set up all the dominoes because they tend to have a satisfying payoff.
I lived this show because I felt as if I got to know you even more Phil! It shows how similar so many of us are to not only you, but each other in the comments, and that relatability and openness is one of the many reasons why your audience trusts you and your unbiased take on reporting the news. Thanks for consistently being such a BAMF, you just gained another patreon supporter ❤️
I was a fatty when I was in primary school. and I guess I've been losing weight through out the years and never noticed and still wore the same size uniform until one day in secondary school, I wore my sisters old uniform, which was 2 sizes smaller than my own, cause I was late and ran out of clean uniform, so I got to school and like everyone was giving me looks, and I just though oh I'm wearing a smaller uniform and its weirding them out. and then one guy was like did you have lipo? and I was like wtf? and and then I realised oh I'm not as fat as i once was. and then when I got home, I told my mom, she started laughing and then we went shopping for uniforms in my newly discovered size. the end.
I think that Debby Ryan Netflix show looks awesome and I’m super excited for it. I liked her in her Disney shows so I’m glad she’s getting more work! As for the “controversy,” people need to get the whole story before they judge something. Also, this transformation plot has been done countless times with no issue and this story even takes a pretty interesting twist on it.
I think part of the issue is that the world is changing (as it should). And people and stories need to change as well. There are plenty of racist shit that people did countless times in the past that just won't work now because it is problematic. This obviously does not hit that far, but people need to stop giving other people image issues and treat other with respect and kindness. I'm not saying that is what this movie is trying to do. I'm not entirely sure what it's trying to do, so I'll wait and see. Regardless, I completely understand the response to this type of story choice, and I have my own reservations.
Jonathon There's a large difference between someone's race and their weight. No one can control their race. Everyone can control their weight. If you don't like people making fun of you because you're fat, lose weight. "Fat Shaming" is by far the most effective method of obesity control. Fat acceptance is not a progressive movement, it's a regressive one that acts contrary to years of research and evidence that prove that a person's choice to be obese is quite literally them choosing to kill themselves, in which case they obviously don't care about themselves so why should we care about them either.
Thank you for finally covering and bringing to light the problems of my country, the more the world knows about the right side of the story the better.
im a fat mc fatty pants and people need to relize that these are movies or shows NOT REAL LIFE!!! if u want to do go Volunteer at a local ymca or start a awareness movment i mean people are taking shows and movies way to seroirse!
Look how beautiful you are now! I’ve always struggled with my weight. I lost 100lbs and people who bullied me suddenly wanted to be friends. It’s a mindset that society needs to correct.
Tbf, some people have some deep deep issues about it. My bro *hates* fat people because they remind him of his family. He once counted the calories of food a larger person was buying in front of him. He won't deny it either, dude probably should go to therapy. He says he should too, but he hates fat people too much to try to not hate them.
Optical Enthusiast It just looks like they're being arseholes actually, and that's the problem - people feel justified in bullying fat people if it "encourages them to be healthy". Most of the time, it doesn't work anyway!
Optical Enthusiast I find it hard to believe that treating somebody with health issues like a subhuman, mocking his appearance which stems from other health issues, either mental or physical, can be in any way considered encouraging. I've been struggling with my weight all my life and I've been called many names, treated like shit, beaten up and people said that because I weigh more than them that I do not deserve to be happy and I don't deserve love and I should just die. That's not encouraging, that's just kicking a man when he's down. Encouragement should come from people's respect, support and understanding of other people's issues, not from amplifying the misery of a person in distress trying to break him. How come when someone gets cancer, is struggling with addiction or suffers in any other way health-wise people are helpful to them but it's so hard for everyone to NOT beat up a fat kid for looking differently than others? Talking from experience, the only thing your "society" ever encouraged me to do was put a noose around my neck, 'cause nobody has ever shown any support and help in my struggles by bullying me.
JJJ 444 That’s such bullshit. I went to medical school and genetics play a HUGE part into obesity, as well as how you are raised. Kids have food put on their plate. If their parents eat like shit, they have to eat like shit. A 10 year old isn’t going to go get a job so he can afford to buy his own food. Some parents won’t let kids leave the table until he finishes his plate. But keep victim blaming, it makes you look so nice.
As crazy as this sounds I started eating healthier at work because I can just order healthy meals from restaurants instead of picking up quick fast food. But I guess it depends on what you order.
I don't understand... what does MGM has anything to do with the shooting... like do you check what people bring in their cases and bags, and MGM didn't do that? So people are saying MGM is wrong for protecting themselves from the victims who's gonna sue whoever for money just because they are the victims. Yes the event was horrible but I don't see why MGM needs to pay for it.
ty wayne they own a piece of property where a horrific crime was committed, they didn’t commit the crime. If the victims can get money from MGM it would be the same as me getting mugged in front of your house and then me suing you for the loss I suffered
As a Venezuelan the Nicaraguan situation sounds too familiar I just hope they come out better than we did... Also not surprised the representative from Venezuela didn't find anything wrong with what was happening
Ortega being part of the revolution back in the day, and now is on the other end reminds me of Batman "You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain"
I struggled with anorexia for years in high school and I’m not offended by the Debbie Ryan show. So sick of everyone being offended by literally everything.
I struggled with my weight as well during my late teens and early twenties, although my weight issue was being underweight, not over. When I was 15, I caught the H1N1 flu virus and dropped 15 pounds in a week, becoming underweight at 120 pounds being 5' 11" tall. After that, I battled the inability to eat. Food just wasn't satisfying and often made me sick to my stomach if I ate even half of the portions I was supposed to eat. I was pretty weak and often would get dizzy if I did anything super strenuous. It wasn't until the age of 21, after graduating at a community college, that I finally started to eat right and gain weight again. I'm now 24 and sitting at 140 pounds. I feel so much better than I did back then, even though there's still some holdover anxiety about food, I'm getting better. It's important to remember that if you struggle with being either over or underweight that you're still important, valued, and loved no matter your body type.
Thank you. I struggle with being underweight due to stomach issues preventing me from eating a lot and extracting all the nutrients from food. I often feel weak, dizzy, etc but I get no sympathy because "how can you complain if you're skinny, you should be glad".
prettylittleravenna I completely understand how you feel. People dont understand that being underweight is very taxing on the body. Especially if you ever catch the flu or even a simple cold because it causes you to eat even less. Hang in there! It will get better!
Netflix let's you skip the intro, we let you skip stories if you want! :)
Insatiable Backlash(00:16), TIA(5:43), Dan Coates Interview (7:22), MGM Sues Vegas Victims (10:26), Nicaragua Protests (15:22)
When will your app be available for Android?
Philip DeFranco no one should skip anything in these videos!
YandereDev drama.
All the people mad about the fat shaming are most likely fat or have a loved one thats fat. If you support people being extremely over weight then in my eyes YOU are the problem. You are telling people its ok to let yourself die faster because you don't have self control with food or lack motivation to lose the weight. If its a medical issue and you can't lose weight thats one thing but so many people CAN lose the weight but simple don't try and blame us on them being fat.
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Thank you so much for speaking about Nicaragua! The people must be heard !
Brittney Santos I agree Brittney. I am from Nicaragua and it's so sad. My sister and parents still live there. Please pass the word. I help a small school in the country and I am trying to get the word out. The website is "we are compassion. Org" thank you. I have been to the school and they help kids and parents in Nicaragua
The whole Insatiable situation is incredibly ironic because the backlash was caused by people judging the show by the bare minimum that there is to know about it, even though they claim to be fighting against that very same type of judgement.
Food for thought.
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Oof bro, Nice call out
This.
Phil, reference fat shaming, it happened to me in reverse. I was a rescue firefighter with a doctors note to weigh more than average because of the muscle content of my body. After several line-of-duty injuries, including a major back injury, I found myself unable to work out and my weight began to increase.
Soon, due to those injuries, I was unable to walk any kind of distance and was actually confined to a wheelchair. Again between body changes and medications my weight increased even more. Add to that after my last surgery I took almost a year to heal, so no doctor will suggest even bariatric surgery. I've even had to retire from my job because of the pain and meds effecting my ability to concentrate. Not a great feature for an emergency dispatcher.
Now everyone who doesn't know me assumes I'm in a wheelchair because I'm fat and lazy. Try working past that. It's the main reason I don't appear in my own TH-cam videos. My entire career has been in service to others and now no one seems to care.
As Bob Sees It That is so terrible! I am so sorry! I think the big problem with “fat shaming” is that people assume that weight is due to laziness and over-eating when sometimes it is not. People should just judge people based on who they are, not how they look.
Phil, I can't continue to say thank you enough for covering what is going on in Nicaragua. From my whole family there and the rest of us in the U.S., thank you for reporting and not allowing people to forget this.
Debbie Ryan has faced YEARS of fat-shaming and shitty people as well as went through a period of self-harm and an abusive relationship. I'm sure she didn't just throw those experiences to the wayside when she filmed this Netflix movie. Debby Ryan still isn't "Hollywood thin". People need to wait until they can actually watch a freaking movie before slamming the actresses in it.
RealToWonder exactly but the world we live in people get pissed over small things
It's too hot they pissed
It's too cold they pissed
It's 4 pm on a Friday afternoon they pisses
RealToWonder well, if the show is different than the trailer, why the FUCK would they do such a trailer in the first place.
I open mouth sneeze on their ice cream they pissed
YamiAlex224 well, you do know that fat shaming is a real problem and not a few killed themselves because their surroundings bullied them bc they were too heavy? fuck i hate ignorance.
Exist they pissed
In highschool, my crush told me he "just wasn't into fat girls".... 6 years later, I had lost 60 pounds and that same guy messaged me on Facebook to tell me how sorry he was for the way he and his friends had treated me through school and that he wanted to go out sometime. It felt so good to tell him I wasn't into assholes 🤔😄
Kassandra Love Awesome 💖. Congrats on the weight loss 🎉
Kassandra Love r/madlads and r/thathappened
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Kassandra Love petty
MatKing Only thing it's missing is the public setting and the thunderous applause.
I really don't get why people care so much about the Insatiable trailer. Just because the main character loses weight and only then begins to fit in doesn't imply that her fellow students' behavior is good or amiable and neither does the main character's newfound lust for revenge say that you have to be 'conventionally attractive' first and then you can get back at all your harassers. It's a god damn story, not a list of rules to live by.
i love a good revenge story. did anyone watch mean girls ? Good example, or is there a thing in that will TRIGGER someone !? lol
I get why people would be upset but honestly they can't say that the show is promoting x or y for just a trailer; better wait and see than start a rage just to llok like an idiot after if they are being unfair.
Lol you don't get why? Because it's easier to complain online than go for a fucking jog. Also, the Netflix contract clearly states that you have to watch what you're violently opposed to or you'll be beaten to death by fit, attractive people. Simply not watching is not an option.
+Imakunipwns For real brother. A film doesn't have to even have a positive message. It's fantasy. No producer is responsible other people's actions. Vote by watching/not-watching.
Such a relief to see you cover what is going on in Nicaragua, just sharing and spreading awareness is already a great way to help, and would recommend those who can to do so.
Philip DeFranco you should start putting polls in your videos so you can see what your viewers think about certain topics.
Catobis That is what the comments are for
Butter The comments don't show the overall picture.
I am the internet, and I approve of this message.
I love this idea, it would give a much clearer picture than scrolling through the top comments, especially when the comments all seem to be about one specific story.
Anyone else skip over the Phillips daily Trump/ Russia story? Its gotten to be like those Ghost/ Bigfoot Hunter cable shows. I'll tune in once they find Bigfoot but until then... I don't care.
I hate the whole "fat shaming" things. It's like we're telling people its ok and healthy to be huge. I went from 340 to 190 in 2 years so I know what it's like being big. How would it have helped me if people told me I am perfect just the way I am and nothing is wrong. There was plenty of shit wrong like my BMI, blood pressure, blood sugar, cholesterol, heart rate, knees, and ankles. You don't have to tear a fat person down, but you also don't need to lie to them
I definitely agree that some people take it way too far, but you said it yourself we don't need to actively tear fat people down just for being fat. Should we encourage them to live a healthier lifestyle? Absolutely. But is it justifies to make them feel like less of a human being because they're fat? No.
Long_Duck Dong congrats 😆😆 it gets easier when u get the hang of it
The show is NOT fat shaming. It's so annoying that people are saying it is. It is GLORIFYING losing weight and becoming more healthy. Cry bullys are gonna cry. Nothing new.
It's actually be scientifically proven that right-leaning decisions are entirely formed from fear and discomfort. Leftism is fueled by feelings of security and comfort. Which sounds like a mental disorder to you?
I agree. Obesity issues are at an all time high and it's (obesity) mostly the fault of the sufferer barring a few underlying health issues. The idea that societies needs to stop pressuring people to be thin is absurd considering just how fat (and getting fatter) society is.
it's not fat shaming at all, if anything it's addressing the problem of fat shaming and how weight affects other people's perception of you. honestly, people are just looking for excuses to get offended at this point
Yash Permalla how is it addressing the problem of fat shaming and how weight affects other peoples perception of people?
Swan D 1. It shows you that someone bullied over it can start holding grudges to the point of vengeance.
2. It shows you how she was first bullied and after losing weight gets treated better.
Now I ask you: how does it not adress those points?
based on your points, it sounds like the message of the movie is to lose weight so people treat you better.
I mean..... yes? Like for fucks sake sorry the vast majority of people don't find obese people attractive?
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it doesnt, becuz thats not how the movie goes based on the trailer.
Thank you for covering the Nicaragua Protests... I’m legit crying... thank you so much for covering it and bringing it to light... thank you... ❤️🇳🇮🇳🇮
I wish people cared as about Nicaragua, and general conflict and tyranny, as they do about Debby Ryan's show. I get that their complaints are valid and well intentioned, but people - kids - are literally dying. Priorities.
Emma Bax I personally feel like the reason why there are less comments about Nicaragua is that you the movie was the first thing talked about and there's more people that can relate about being obese. Though I'd like to see more talks about Nicaragua
We desperately need help as citizens, we are being murdered by the institution that is supposed to protect us. YESTERDAY THEY KILLED MY CHILDHOOD FRIEND T.T
Why isn't the US helping these people instead of meddling in the middle east?
Is there some oil the USA can steal?
US government IS helping us, we appreciate their support, they have applied the Magnitsky Law to different members of our corrupted government officials. But comunist don`t care about that, as long as they`re in power.
On the whole fat shaming thing. obviously its not ok to shame or harass anyone for any reason... but more and more it feels like its less and less about stopping bullies and more about normalizing and almost promoting being over weight as a good thing.
The most common message along these lines that i hear everywhere, even in this video is "its ok to be fat"... and while i know the original meaning was "you shouldn't be judged just because of your weight because you are still a person inside", now a days it gets conflated by everyone and is taken literally as "its OK to be fat" that "its fine to live as over weight and obese and you don't need to change because its fine and normal". its like they have taken it a step too far just to be accepted...
and a lot of time, not all the time, but a lot of time this new more extreme message is promoted by people who aren't fat, because they want to be inclusive. but by promoting it so heavily, by removing any reason for fat people to want to slim down, i think in the long term its going to hurt more then it helps.
i also take issue with the "being attractive is just a point of view" thing to an extent. why wouldn't a physically fit human be generally on average more attractive then one who isn't? did i miss a memo? was evolution and natural selection completely debunked? or did it just never apply to humans for some reason???
xXzman9000Xx can’t wait for the outraged nematode who misunderstands this comment and gets upset
I think the power of the "fat acceptance" movement is greatly overexaggerated. Like the power of the Nazi party in America. It exists, but the vast majority of people aren't actually being affected by the message. (Also, since you're talking evolution, being plump has historically equalled longer life, since you were less likely to starve to death over the winter when there was little food. It's only in the last century or so that we have a year-round over-abundance of food, and we have the luxury of being skinny.)
Its like people are trying to deny the social and even biological norms but not to people's benefit.
The slim people tell the fat people they're fine while sitting back and enjoying all the perks of their better situation. Its also the classic situation of people cuddling others but not actually caring about them.
Just as with any other habit/lifestyle/actions people indulge in its the very people who just enable you in your vices that lead you down a bad path simply because they don't care enough to help you change things they actually see as detrimental.
This whole thing has turned into people basically telling others to not bother to improve themselves.
dementare ooh I like that analogy
EliMakesDo I sadly don’t think that’s true
The insatiable backlash is 100% outrage culture. If we go down this route then what about those films which feature assholes? Are they promoting it? What about those which features revenge stories? What about those which feature dreams coming true? We all know how rare that is in real life but that's a similar 'perfection' story, just not about weight.
If we were to denounce every story or piece of fiction based on them covering plausible but uncommon facets of life then no visual entertainment would exist.
nfzeta People have been outraging way before. There's just social media now.
nfzeta This channel is kind of becoming "today in outrage culture" a tabloid. Whenever your opening is "a bunch of people were angry today" you should run away as fast as possible. Phil should not be giving a voice to simpletons. Nothing changes until we ignore these people.
R T that is actually a fair point, but i think regardless of whether phil commentates on it, it will unfortunately still happen. Political correctness needs to crash and burn before future generations grow up directly involved in it.
Could you imagine what would happen if House M.D. were to be released today?
nfzeta I would rather fat shame myself, than fat accept myself. It is not ok to be unhealthy. *Over abundance/production of glucose and insulin should be treated like drug addiction.*
I’m in Costa Rica at the moment and living fairly close to the Nicaraguan border and I want to thank you for talking about this. It is so heartbreaking and scary.
Question... Since when do movies and shows HAVE to have a positive message?
I'm just going to assume these people are children who are still stuck in their Disney phase.
Charity Amis they don’t. Some great films don’t have positive messages. For example “There will be blood” is a story about a man consumed by greed becomes rich but also becomes a monster. Not a positive message, but doesn’t mean it’s a bad movie lol.
Yay! Someone saying something that’s sane! Too bad we don’t have more people who get this
Big facts
If shows always had to have positive message, The Office would've been shut down in one season lol
Exactly. If this show describes itself as a comedy show, its job is to make people laugh, it's not obligated to have a good message at all.
re: weight - I went thru the same thing when I was much younger. I lost a lot of weight and was treated very differently - especially by guys. It terrified me and I gained all the weight back plus more. I got up to 350 lbs. (or more - the scale topped out at 350). I finally decided to lose it again - I have lost over 110 lbs. so far. I HOPE I can handle the change in how people treat me better this time around.
Julie Stevens all the best on your adventure! I wish you strength, and love, and conviction to be who you want to be!
Thank you. :o)
Having gone through a dramatic weight loss journey and seeing how different people treat me now from then, it really pushes humanity into perspective, kind of a disgusting realization -- I also have deleted almost all my photos of me at that time, moved away from people that knew me then, and am almost unrecognizable. Feels good but feels almost empty.
THE JOURNEY MATTERS -- let's see how Debbie shares the story of one.
Obesity is the real problem not fat people. Just like we shun people who use drugs habitually we shun people who are chronically overweight (sometimes less overweight than others) Maybe we shouldn't treat health problems like a taboo and actually set up a community and culture that fosters healing and growth.
mate of mine is not even 40 and has DVT and Angina from being overweight
Aaron Babyblue sorry to hear that
Is that your argument against OP or are you just agreeing and sharing some information?
sharing
lulux2 ...huh? Aaron just shared an experience of a friend of his where their weight has caused them weight problems. He didn't say that everyone who was overweight had those issues, or anything like that. He didn't insult overweight people or generalise or anything. I feel like you could have left your comment at the "my blood pressure is low/normal", as that would have just been you sharing YOUR experience, the same way Aaron shared theirs. That would have just been a conversation.
Idk.
John Spencer I agree with you 100%!
If you look at the mgm story, in my opinion you can’t hold the hotel responsible for the shooting. They weren’t cutting corners on safety as far as I know, and it was just unfortunate for them that it happened there. Plus it lines up with the 2002 safety act rather well so I would say that it’s not their fault. However, I do think that it looks really bad at a surface level for mgm and the exaggerated headline is the only think the general public tends to see, so I can se it going either way
Fletcher Vogt I think there’s a point that everyone forgets. The security dispatch at Mandalay Bay bungled something huge. Their security guard was shot and called it out over their radio. They delayed calling the police for at least 4 minutes. It may not sound like much, but that four minutes with an exact location could’ve helped police. They were already on scene, under fire with the rest of us, and trying to get people out.
Many are also upset at the amount of exits that were available. The venue only had 4 for thousands of people, of which only 2 were immediately accessible. I was lucky enough, in a weird way, to not be able to get out until towards his last few rounds. They had managed to open up an exit that didn’t force you to run towards the bullets to get out. The exit thing isn’t necessarily my biggest problem with MGM, but I want to say it’s brought up in at least a few of the lawsuits. The original 1 or 2 had it listed.
Personally, it’s disgusting that someone cheating in their casinos can be caught around the clock, but someone drilling an emergency exit closed in the middle of the day can get away with it easily.
My heaviest was around 290.(I'm 5"9' btw) I lost 130 lbs by eating less believe it or not. I actually bothered to count my calories and it payed off. I'm sick and tired of hearing these people say, "It's ok to be fat." It's not. It hurts. If you can't be comfortable in your own body, change it.
Unlimited I agree. I understand you shouldn't judge someone on their size, but promoting unhealthy lifestyles is so toxic. I believe if they taught nutrition in schools, America would be way less fat.
T Bella they do and they have been, that’s not the issue
High five! I guess your diet isn't unlimited anymore? :D
I agree entirely. I didn't really like how I looked, even if I wasn't huge and I set out to change it. I started exercising and am much happier with how I look, and it was one of the best things, I have ever done.
Yeah, i lost 60 pounds after I tore up a knee being fat. My husband lost 45 because he was prediabetic. Being fat is not okay, its not natural, its not just how you are.
Its a series of poor choices compiling into a large problem.
I'm so over this "lets get outraged at everything" culture on the internet nowadays
Nyah Cat little did you know 11 months ago that it would only get worse
I'm glad I used to be fat. It made me a better person by overcompensating in other aspects of my life. Now I am no longer fat AND I retained all the things that I learned when I was fat like winning people over with just my personality, and the importance of humility and integrity.
I also learned the struggles of being fat, so I can shut down all the nonsensical rhetoric coming from the "tolerant left" on the issue. I was fat because of my own chosing and it was terrible. The worst part was, I was angry with myself, because I was the only one to blame.
Jerrad Johnson same. Dropped 40 pounds and now at a better position of health both mentally and physically. I took it into my own hands to learn healthy habits and how to integrate them into my life.
Jerrad Johnson meanwhile the very same people who accuse other of fat shaming them still are attracted , and fantasized about fit and/or muscular people. Best example of do what i say not what i do.
Jerrad Johnson I'm a fat guy who is working on getting healthier and I agree with you here. Idk if you listen to Bill Burr, but he seems to have a very similar mindset and even made a joke of it: "You ate your way in, you can walk your way out!"
I get that today's method is to say that everything is fat shaming, but unless you have a serious health issue, everyone has the ability to lose weight so long as they actually put in the work. All that said, I would say the whole "jaw wired shut" premise can be miscontrued as "stop eating and you'll be happy" but it's a movie and movies are usually about extremes. Though, to be fair, it is funny to see some overreacting in the same way other people have been known to overreact. Snake eating its own tail and all that.
I Feel Pretty was a movie that was exactly that, she got a concussion and thought she was prettier but turns out she was the same as she was the whole time, it was just her confidence and people raised so much fuss before it was even out and knew what the movie was actually about. People just want to be mad. If you're mad, make content that is the stories you want, that's how you change things.
Jera that movie was the reason people hated on it. People just dont like any Schumer lol
people were mad because of there was no women of colour and LGBT representation I mean Jack Black did so much better
FBicoolshaman Apart from that, it is genuinely a shit movie.
Shallow Hal, Shrek and The Nutty Professor are just three examples I immediately thought of off the top of my head where the person who became skinny ended up staying fat (and green, in the case of Shrek) and still had a "happily ever after".
Jera Damn! Based on your description (and slight spoiler?) I kinda want to see that movie you mentioned but then I saw others mention Amy. Is tye movie still worth it?
"I am the after photo of what I was, but I am still the before photo of what I want to be" Damn that's kinda inspirational, Phil!
Thank you for actually talking about Nicaragua, it means a lot, it hurts knowing that the mainstream news hasn't even pretended to care about it
There is no such thing as “health at all sizes”. The body possitivity movement is moronic.
No one should be shamed. But also no one should be encouraged to stay fat and unhealthy.
I've come to peace with it, hoping Darwin was right.
I see what you're saying but the idea behind that saying is that a person's weight doesn't dictate their health, and that's true whether you like it or not. The same weight on different people can look totally different, just as people who look good can be incredibly unhealthy.
Darwin's model probably didn't account for modern medicine keeping obese people alive long enough to reproduce another generation of overweight kids.
I really get your point but size doesnt prove good heath choices, its just a superficial way to judge a person. You can be skinny and in very poor health, eating junk food, smoking ect. But you'll look "healthy" so you won't be judge
Well he said fat and unhealthy, so those people obviously don't fall under what he was saying here
Ppl are soooo quick with their criticisms for Netflix shows. Calm down, if u disagree, just don't watch it. Simple.
ihateintros agreed. It’s not that deep
Genta regretable jokes by comedians ofc
There's no such thing as '' Don't watch '' or '' If you don't like X don't watch / do etc Y '' . It's not something that's going to happen in real life much less the internet .
Xerathar why? not everything is made to appeal to you. why not let people make the art that they enjoy, and then you can make the art you enjoy.
I just think it looks like a stupid show 😂
I'm so, so sick about what is happening in Nicaragua. It is truly horrible what kind of things will people do to stay in power. I feel with the citizens and I'm so proud of everyone who is protesting even though it endangeres their lives. True heroes. I hope they succeed.
Klára I find it interesting just how much of an attention grabber fat shaming is. I feel like violence against protest is far more important than some twitter beef.
You were not the same. You were more attractive, which is the first thing that guys react to, second, instead of hitting the Mac.. you were hitting the gym, which shows determination and a strong person. This attracts people a lot. I bet even your walk has changed. Your change was inside your head first and second was the outside. Fat shaming is horrible but in the same time when I watch "My life at 600 lb" I thank GOD for all the fat shaming I got in high-school.
i bet the cia is involved and trying to overthrow Otega's govt
Klára
I always find it strange that no other countries come in to help the protesters in these cases, even the countries that have taken a stand against the government. I'm sure there's a reason for it but still...
Klara, Not so strange really. If citizens try to subvert the legal government, and the government responds with force from police etc, a foriegn nation can't step in and support rebels without inflaming the situation or possibly starting a civil war. It's not as simple as sending in the troops to calm things down. Tends to have the opposite effect really, it's a risk not worth taking for deaths in the tens, as horrible as that sounds. The world seems to be watching closely though.
Please keep reporting and raising awareness about the situation in Nicaragua. It's important to show people what a dictatorship looks like. The "terrorists" are just students trying to defend their freedom of speech and rights. And then the government escalated it, putting snipers in the streets and targeting civilians. Nicaragua is one of the most peaceful with the warmest people I've ever been. The fact that this is still going on after 3 months goes to show how terrible the situation really is. And because the media is controlled by the government, you almost don't hear about all of this. My heart breaks for my friends and family over there
her show is not fat shaming. people are to sensitive.
I'm 6'0 and 340lbs my dude, but most people say I look 250 so I got that. when I was a kid my "friends" used to act like there was an earthquake everytime I came running up. But low self esteem made it hard for me to lose the pounds and now I'm just working on it at my own pace.
Directionally Challenged Keep working at it my guy. Best of luck to you!
thank you! :D doin my best!
Do you man. It's a tough road, but now many of us have traveled it and it can be done. Best of luck
Reading this is pretty damn inspirational. Fortunately I’m not close to that level of weight but I will easily get there in a couple of months.
Don't give up keep going... Do it for yourself and for your health. Stay motivated. I know it's hard. But there are people who understand what you're going through and are right there with you.👍✌
I am overweight and have been most of my life. It is true, people do treat you differently when you’re overweight. This new series is very truthful. It’s not fat shaming or saying you should bully fat people, it’s showing what really happens.
The Pitch Perfect series featured 2 commentators that said horrible things about people’s weight and race and women and they were posed as jokes and the hosts laughed about it. Yet there wasn’t a big stink made about that. How I met your mother featured several fat jokes. They constantly equated being fat as “the worst thing that could ever happen” and that dating a fat person was unthinkable and repulsive. However, that show was still a hit. Many movies and shows make fun of fat people and society has just accepted it and encourages it.
News flash, shaming and bullying does not bring about change. If you’re shaming someone for their weight, you do not care about that person. Shaming someone for their weight goes one of three ways, they develop a disorder like Anorexia or Bulimia, they become depressed and eat more and gain more weight, or they get revenge and hurt someone. There is a very small number of people that do take bullying and turn it into a positive and start eating healthy and exercising and improve their health, but most don’t.
Shaming and bullying are not an effective way to bring change.
It would be refreshing to have a series with people of all sizes and never have a fat or a skinny shaming joke or plot line. Just let people be people.
Ashley P that very small number is better than nothing. Its worth the sacrifice.
Ashley P Sounds like a boring show
Ashley P , in HIMYM dating a trans person was one of the worst fears of Ted
If you’re genuinely concerned about their health, there is a way to go about telling them that you’re concerned and offering to support them emotionally through their lifestyle change. Overweight people know it’s not healthy and know they need to change, and often receive criticism from those they consider friends and family. It’s hard not having a support system. No one should be bullied for their weight. Like Phil said, they’re worthy of love and support.
Nory-Chan I don’t remember that in the show, but that’s just terrible that that was allowed.
I generally listen to your shows as background white noise whilst at work and I respect your opinion and biased/unbiased views on current topics and news. Being open about fat shaming hit me hard as I was in a similar situation to you in second level education and how people perceive me now as a fitness enthusiast. So much respect for you being extremely open and transparent about this topic. Thank You
Where do people find the energy to continually being outraged?
MrWaffelLP truly it’s exhausting to even hear about these days.
MrWaffelLP You dare question the mindless activism fueled by anger??
How fucking dare you?
+MrWaffelLP I think anger triggers more adrenaline which is the energy. If anything, more of that energy is being used on the fastest and largest form of communication (the internet.)
ShutTheFuckUpWhore I really shouldn't have laughed but I did by your comment
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The backlash against Insatiable seems short sighted. Plus, some of the comments said they wanted a movie where the bigger girl doesn't get skinny and gains confidence on her looks. Only, we got that with I Feel Pretty and that received backlash as well.
You can't win over anyone.
To be fair I Feel Pretty was a shit movie
Amy Schumer ruined ot with *VAGINA JOKES*
I never watched it so I wouldn't know.
Philly D giving us Clone Wars fans some recognition! Loved that trailer, who else agrees?
star wars is trash and over saturated
Geetsly's ooora
Sukhmeet and shitty GTA montages aren’t? Lmao
YESSSSSS MANNN
Huh, didn't expect to see you here.
Also, I know, right?!
My husband and I were suppose to go support a church in Nicaragua for 6 months starting late last month, but our flights were canceled (by the airline themselves) early June because of all this. It makes me really sad seeing the country like this considering I've been going there for the past 7 years every year. Our friends live about 10 miles outside of Masaya and there's no food, no clean water, no work and no money. They say people are fleeing to the surrounding countries, mostly Costa Rica.
Yes!! I agree completely. I was a big girl and teased for it. Eventually I got tired of it and started hitting the gym and dieting, and lost the weight over summer. Came back to school and suddenly everyone(especially guys) started treating me completely different. Just pissed me off that it took me losing weight for people to see ME. I'm so excited to watch this series. Those bitching clearly haven't experienced this and just want something to bitch about.🤦♀️
Rachel Rae You were always there. Just the people that were around you didn't see true beauty
This is why I think bullying is a natural and healthy part of adolescence. I was a fat kid but too, will never be a fat adult thanks to the innate cruelty of children :D Bullying literally added years to our lives
Tim Boulanger I’m not sure that’s always the case - there was a kid several grades ahead of me who couldn’t handle the bullying he received and took some pills to put a stop to it. He lost years off of his life :(
Sadly you cant change someones beauty standards you either find some1 who loves you as a big girl(not that hard tbh) and accept that he might have some weird fetish or slim down and widen your pool of men that might like you for who you are.Bcz lets be real if the shell is broken and looks ugly none sane will try to look whats inside.
Thats the hard truth i realized like 8 years ago when i was close to 300lbs had to loose 120lbs just to look attractive for girls.
Yea in the end its up to you.
You speaking on your experience with weight loss and how people treated you before and after got me pretty emotional.
I watched an anime recently with a similar premise. In that one the girl didn't care, her personality stayed Nerdy like she had been before. The difference is that others were chasing her. They got ignored because they didn't want her before so why would she look at them now. THAT was a positive message, you are you regardless of the number on the scale.
Kidlike101 omg please tell me the anime you watched was Kiss Him Not Me (if I remembered the name correctly)
Kidlike101 kiss him not me?
What show
What's it called?
Kidlike101 And she fucking loves yaoi
The mass shooting is horrid and a waste of precious life... But no way shape or form is the venue responsible for what one horrid twisted man did.
TheSilver312
Humans kill humans... Nothing new. I expect it.
By that logic flaws in airport security are in no way shape or form responsible for 911. If the venue was aware of gaps in there security protocol prior to the shooting which could have prevented the shooting, I'd say the hotel is culpable. At this point we don't know all the facts so I'd say its a bit to early to let them venue off the hook.
namespace lmao how does that even make sense? Both places have different policies and rules defining privacy and security. Airport security are actively looking for these such threats and have the rules and policies in place to find and take care of them and if something like 911 happens, then it's on them since they could have stopped it. Resorts and hotels on the other hand are not equipped or required to have that level of security. It's like comparing a minimum wage security guard to a police officer lmao gtfo
namespace Should hotels and resorts be required to put all customers through bag checks and metal detectors? What should they have done to prevent this?
Damion Fowlin well it is actually illegal to bring any firearm into a hotel or casino so yea
I'm fat and I'm super excited about the show. I was bullied a lot in school because of my weight and other things, I barely graduated because I missed so much school due to the severe bullying. I love revenge stories and dark comedy. People take things too seriously.
Phil and his team are amazing. Without him, this news about Nicaragua would not have made it to a wide audience. Thank you Phil and team, for what you do.
SystemRichie yea I saw this in the news but not really because they only showed the girl crying but didn't give me more cuz they keep rerunning other old stories
Yeah I also discovered this horrible news from this channel
As a Venezuelan, that lived through the protests here on 2014, 2017 and the ones happening this year, I can only imagine what the nicaraguan people are going through. I almost bursted into tears watching the footage. And I know this is not about me, but I just wanted to share my pain, I can't explain how sad it makes me to hear about all the deaths, the students, the kids, everyone. I just hope that it ends soon. Thank you Phil, for bringing awareness to all of us about this situation.
Veronica Capote I personally wish there was something that could be done to stop all the evil that's happening down in Latin America. I want to help it end
Veronica Capote thanks for your post. Can't imagine what it's like to be faced with this kind of violence. Best wishes!
I wish our news would report these things more often, I haven't even read anything yet about Venezuela in our paper, let alone Nicaragua...
Hermanos y hermanas venezolanos ❤ de México y los Estados Unidos
Gaming Dad yeah, I also think it's sad that the media doesn't cover this topic as often, especially when the white house has made statements about the situations, both about Venezuela and Nicaragua. As my country is allies with Nicaragua, they also don't cover it as the slaughter it is.
17:21 "Forgive me mama. *I came to defend my country. I love you.* "
I cried.
:(.
No one should have sued MGM in the first place. That's flat out wrong. It wasn't their fault. They weren't liable. Who the f expects a shooting where hundreds get shot and almost 60 people die? They aren't even seeking damages or money or anything, MGM that is.
I would agree, until you realize MGM let someone move over 200 assault rifles into one of their rooms. I mean, if you're at the front desk, and you saw someone bring bag after bag after bag into their room, would you not call a detective?
Fred P no, I work in a hotel and some people have tons of bags
Fred P if you wanna go that deep than we can have a full circle and come back to blaming the NRA for providing gun to someone who committed a mass murder... I think the only points to be taken under consideration in this case is that did hotel arranged a proper security for the safety of customers ? The Answer is Yes they did... The security they had was approved by Homeland ... So imo they did everything to ensure safety of their customer.
Brenden : Clevuhhhh Pepe!
Fred P I work at a hotel and you’re generalizing, idiot.
>a neighboring country is at the brink of civil war
>most of the comments are about the Netflix series
Morgan Meme Machine unfortunately, that is the way the world works my friend.
Placement of the stories affects this. The netflix story is first. Nicaragua story is last. Phil almost always puts clickbait first and important stories last. Politics in the middle.
(The exception is mass shootings are usually covered first.)
Most of his audience are Americans that don't really give a shit about the countries surrounding them and rather watch some Nextflix garbage.
People aren't focusing on it because a Central or South American country being on the brink of civil war or experiencing large scale violence or killings is nothing new, it has been happening to one country or another for decades. It's just people get desensitized to it. Venezuela is a prime example, you hear very little about how far down the rabbit hole the country is. Should more people care, yes. If you believe in self-governance they should be left to their own devices. If another country steps in, they are blamed for interfering and installing a government that is made the way that country wants, and as recent history ( Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam. Egypt, Syria, Libya, Yemen ) has shown still leads to internal conflict. So what do you do?
Morgan that's why we're known as dumb Americans to the rest of the world. Most of our fellow citizens are too stupid and lazy to care about the real issues until it affects them.
So a show about a chick who loses weight and gets revenge on her bullies is problematic but a show about killing yourself to get revenge on a boy is totally kool?
13 Reasons Why (I'm assuming you're talking about that?) definitely received backlash, too. People just like being angry, I guess.
Basically. Lack of ability to (read: desire to work at ) effectively change thier own miserable circumstances makes them angry at the world instead. Easier to blame everyone else for your own difficulties in life than look at the sole cause of them; yourself.
Maybe take 3 seconds to fact check your claims??? Cause that show definitely got controversy, too
Rómulo Figueroa right, I was super surprised that people were so against it the 2nd season but it seemed like everyone loved the 1st one eh.. personally I don't like what the show claims to be (a psa, super helpful and what not), it's just a netflix show.
Nah that show is bullshit too
Hey Phil, love your show. Just wanted to thank you for speaking about Nicaragua. Just doing that with an audience like yours really helps spread the word.
I'm kinda in the Milo Yinappolis train of thought on fat shaming.
Being fat isn't healthy or conventionally attractive.
I think people can definitely say some very cruel things to people that are overweight. And I in no way condone that. But I think we should accept people for whatever they look like, but society should definitely encourage people to take care of their health. We just need to do it in constructive, and NOT malicious ways.
I think with fat shaming something that people don't always understand is that just because they look fat doesn't mean they are. I had plenty of friends that looked fatter than me, but could run miles and lift way more than I could in weights. Body types are different, you can never know someone's health just by looking at them.
Kermit of Rivia this is a legitimate straw man argument. He does not say that anywhere.
Lincoln Wise how do you constructively tell someone they are over-weight to yhe point they will care enough to fix it and NOT be offended by it? The thing is if they had an issue with it they would do something. I dont think you can be *shamed* for weight so much as criticized for unhealthy habits and lifestyles.
Calling it "fat-shaming" is distracting from the real issue. What the film is showing is just plain bullying. Once you see it for what it is you can easily separate the health issue from the real issue.
Kermit of Rivia you got the wrong message. Now I'm not very fond of Milo but I have to agree with that. I used to weigh 269 and I've lost over 40 pounds. Instead of accepting fat shamers, we should encourage eating healthy! Being fat or obese (excluding the BMI scale cause it's so innacurate) is just not okay. Not because it supposedly makes people less attractive, BUT because it harms your body. I see this show as nothing more but the ideas that you can now do those things cause of weight loss. I wanna see a movie where is an overweight person who struggles, accepts she can still do what she can, can still be viewed as pretty, and in the end decides to workout and the weight loss be the last resort.
The fat acceptance movement is the only movement without any movement
Lucid Damn lol
Lucid gets me every time, lol
savage
Is it possible that the acceptance of overweight is promoting an unhealthy lifestyle?
Still a golden statement. ✨
Within the last 48 hours more then 30 people of monimbo have been killed in the mountains near the city and in the lake in Managua. There are still 200 people hiding out in the mountains, they're being hunted down. #SOSNicaragua
Stephy Sarabia #NicaraguaLibre
We must not stop spreading the word ❤️
A. Alvarez Solo el pueblo salva al pueblo! Nicaragua será libre!!
An announcement went out two nights ago that the paramilitary was going to use facebook to hunt down and kill anyone who had spoken out against the government. My understanding is it's still happening.
Wtf.. Suing the venue for the shooting? That's like bringing charges against Home Depot when a psychotic customer kills another customer in their parking lot.
Mash Rien money corrupts everyone. But only once you can smell it. Meaning everyone pretends they're anti capitalist anti corrupt. Till they're offered big pay cheques
People are just way too sensitive bruh like gahhhh damn
TheCosmicLad gahhhh isn’t a word
TheCosmicLad yeah, my first thought exactly. Crazy how many people are desperate to find stuff to be upset about
Or perhaps their own experieces cause them to care about something that you dont
Anth Anth the word you started with in your sentence isn’t a word, therefore I did not understand your sentence.
Not people, but SOME girls who thinks they are in the majority
#GiveJamesARaise
#JamesLivesMatter
#JamesDeservesBetter
' *No* ' ~ James, 2K18
Yes he deserves it
#JamesRemindsMeofMyCat!
Society needs to get out of this pattern of unneeded overreactions. It ruins the points that actually need to be made. People are crying wolf way too much.
Cj Roxanne opinions are fine but most of these people don't treat it as an opinion, they treat it as fact. When you start doing something about your opinion then you are no longer treating it like your own opinion anymore, anyone that does is being ignorant and stupid.
Eradicate liberalism, communism and socialism from the face of the planet and this wouldn't be an issue.
Can't a dark comedy just be a dark comedy without being so deeply looked into like it's got some message to it? Nope, gotta be triggered apparently.
TFanPage101 we can't have anynting these days
Truth
No, you have to do dark comedies in a way that do not offend anyone. Is it that hard?
THIS
Luiz Gustavo everything offends people
On the fat shaming thing, I don’t think we should be bullying people because of their weight, but I don’t think we should be saying that it’s okay to stay at a weight that could damage your health. I hope that makes sense :)
Mellenia Myer Makes perfect sense. Unfortunately, people don't listen to good sense nowadays.
Thank you!
Well said
I agree.
How is mgm even responsible? Without breaching privacy laws, how were they supposed to stop it? As far as I am aware, the guy broke no laws until he broke the window to start shooting.
I dunno but it seems like they are trying to protect them selves against a cash grab.
you know people.... will sue because the hotel did not find guns that "awsswipe piece of rotten shit satan's butthole" murdering psycho carried to his room, and will sue if the hotel wants to search their bags. Beautiful humanity.
Have you seen the videos about how the shooting went down?? It’s clear that MGM is partially responsible for the shooting imo. Maybe I’m biased tho because I’m actually from Las Vegas and I know some of the victims. Also, MGM has not provided any aid for the victims (from what I know of). H
I mostly agree, but I think they could have done a better job screening out the guns. Not something that they should be sued for though.
Next up, the gun manufacturer gets sued.
Falney
Humanity... You all never cease to amuse me. To always prove me right. Ha ha ha ha.
Seeing that girl ask her mom for forgiveness made me sad.. 17:10
Panda Esvin the whole story left me in tears
Thank you for taking the time to spread awareness of what we Nicaraguans are living right now, hopefully this will come to an end. But really aprecciate just to know that some people would spend a few minutes and talk about it. Thank you Philip.
If people are going to be overly sensitive can we at least wait to actually watch the thing instead of starting world war 3 over a stupid trailer 🙄
LavenousForever seriously especially when if anything going on right now warrants a WW3 it’s quite clearly the terror and violence protesters are facing in Nicaragua why can’t people care about that instead?😢
LavenousForever Unless the trailer is for Titans. 😂
FINALLY, someone talks about the shit going down in Nicaragua.
Thicc or thin, Philly D is still daddy.
Yo
We are brothers
Gahstly Soups dang
Gsam Baba its true though
i wish i could retweet on youtube
THANK YOU SO SO MUCH! I was this show every night and I'm so so HAPPY that you finally said "you do things differentLY" instead of different. I can move on to my next step of OCD now
As someone who's always walked the line between being heavyset and built/muscular (I've been both extremes, and am currently somewhere in the middle) it's important that we define the difference between not judging someone for their physical appearance, and ignoring the very real health concerns with being either overweight or underweight.
Fat-shaming is a real thing, but so is fat acceptance. It's not "okay" that someone is not in good health, but someones personal health shouldn't be a point of societal targeting.
The message of promoting a healthier way of life through nutrition and exercise (or whatever else you may need, using prescribed medication is perfectly okay!!) is objectively a good one. However promoting it via a medium of revenge and vindication is severely unhealthy and should be reevaluated.
TL:DR Societal fat shaming is cruel. Societal fat acceptance is dangerous. Deliver the message in a way that promotes self love, and not anger.
"Weight until you see the 'full' thing."
I see what you did there, Phil.
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Do people even know what the word promote means. When people are shown that something exists it's not considered a "promotion" of it. When the people who are fat shaming the protagonist are shown to be villians it openly discourages the act.
Fahrenheit 451 doesn't promote book burning simply because it's shown to be a thing.
Does this show promote murderers, school shooters, and "douchebags" because Phil mentions them?
No obviously not. All of those examples are painted in a bad light and that openly discourages those acts to anyone that consumes the media
Are these people actually stupid or are they just saying anything to make their argument sound reasonable? I think it may be both
I'm so sick of people saying this and people who hear them not calling them out on their bullshit
Far too nuanced an opinion to be very highly upvoted, but you hit the nail on the head.
Understanding the difference between "Promoting" something and simply depicting something is a skill the internet ( and maybe people all together) has lost.
John Miller peer pressure and potential benefit
A Travler from a different land *drops mic*
Thank you so much for talking about Nicaragua. Thank you so much for noticing and spreading the word. It just breaks my heart, I never hear people talking about what happens in our poor Latin American countries.
Quick opinions
1) Verbally attacking people simply for their weight is reprehensible, period.
2) Using the broad term "Fat Shaming" to refer to any and all negativity regarding obesity is both naive and counter-productive.
3) Self-hate is a very real and dangerous issue, but the answer does not lie in simply shouting "fat acceptance" and moving on with our lives without taking responsibility for our own health.
4) Getting all worked up about a TV SHOW portraying an overweight person being bullied doesn't solve anything.
5) To place the blame of *any* of your personal issues on "societal standards" is to be irresponsible, and is to dig yourself into an unproductive rut at the expense of everyone around you.
Hell yea, get em
Daniel Aguirre sumW
I'll call this the Hokey Pokey List. That's what it's all about!
Daniel Aguirre
I guess I think the problem is not that shes fat and becomes skinny it is that she becomes skinny by not eating. Maybe if she spent the summer working out and eating healthy there would be a different response. But to me, it looks like a show that shows a overweight girl with problems, problems that get solved by not eating solid foods for en extended period of time.
Maybe a show like this shouldn’t be targeted to middle school and high school aged kids.
Cj Roxanne,
I disagree. But I await your name callings and your condescending attitude. to prove OP's post. :D
Unless this show ends up being another 13 Reasons Why situation, there's no reason to get upset about Insatiable.
What are the chances though? I could soooo see that shit ending in an almost school shooting
Jonathan James lol your comment is funny because it seems like every show a guy doesn’t like is an “sjw” show. I even see these kind of comments on the amazing world of gumball videos.
Except there is. Reviewers have pointed out the numerous faults with the writing & messages, the show pretends to be starting a conversation without having anything of substance to say, Netflix even asked a mental health expert if the show was OK, he warned not to release the show, & then they released it anyway. This show, ironically, is so pretentious about opening people's eyes to serious topics that SJWs would be the audience most likely to like this show.
I'm not sure about the SJW controversy, but 13 reasons why is a representation of everything wrong with mental health. Hannah is manipulative, and ends up hurting people who have not wronged her. She blames those who have done relatively mild taunting to her for her death. The show also tries to state that living as a victim is better than coming forward, or seeking help.
David Hattie As someone who was bullied in school and suffered depression, I think it portrays how bullying affects the victims' mental health pretty accurately. But, then also as someone who has attempted suicide I do believe the portrayal of suicide as a good way to get back at the bullies problematic. It's also a fantasy. Bullies, by definition, lack empathy. They don't care about you when you're alive, and being dead won't change that. I think they should have promoted seeking help, and not romanticizing suicide. That's only going to push people with suicidal tendencies towards actually going through with it.
PREACH THAT SELF LOVE PHIL! ❤️
TiaVapes are vape channels been hit by strikes? And demonitization?
Self love is not a good thing.
"Pride goeth before a fall"
The best self love is taking care of your health
MadeManⓋ agreed. they have a loser mindset
I was very heavy in high school. Around 240. Went down to 175 for the marine corps. I broke my shoulder, had a knee and back injury and got out. I gained a lot of weight around 270. I hated myself. It’s about self control and self love is taking care of yourself. Started keto and working out I’m down 70 pounds now. If I can do it all banged up any one can “self love” is making excuses. If you like being heavy that’s fine but don’t try and promote life style to young uns that is scientifically unhealthy in the midst of a obesity crisis.
i came to this video for some news and not even 5 minutes in you have me bawling my eyes out. love you phil thank you for being you. you are such an inspiration and i love watching your channel every day ( minus Saturday and Sunday =( )
Your explanation of feeling better after losing weight kind of made me think of my experience of just being a teen and growing up. I had been bullied relentlessly as a kid and grades suffered from it. But once I reached a certain age the bullying died out. I didn't change, I didn't gain muscle or became tall or anything like that.
The story of Nicaragua goes to show how people will spin a story to match how they want that story to be seen. The way the government was able to take the videos and make the story about how rebels are killing policemen instead of police killing civilians is terrifying. That's is some top teir manipulation and I just questioned everything I thought I knew. That's absolutely terrifying.
Yes, they are pros at that. You can thank Cuba, Venezuela and Russia for what's happening there.
That piece on Nicaragua was truly eye opening. Keep it up PDS.
The US has done the same thing with Palestine and even Yemen before this year really (US media not government) although we did arm the saudis with the bombs to do what they’ve done in Yemen and funded Israel to be able to remain a dominant power in the Middle East and creating illegal settlements under international law on Palestinian land and expanding further
Wonder if its comparable to whats going on in the EU.
That's why you take everything you hear with a grain of salt. They do it because it works, so if people become smart enough to where it doesn't work, they'll stop trying to do it (or double down and end up hurting themselves).
It's just a show. Jesus Christ, why is everyone offended by literally everything??
Because feminism has gone way to far
they think too much like activists
cuz they don't understand that fat people can lose weight, or how petty people in high school can really be.
Becky B because theres waaaay too many pussies in this world now
Being Healthy is bad.
I have huge problems with my body image and weight and am also very young. This is a source for most of the distress in my life and honestly feels awful. I am at a point where I physically can’t imagine being happy or even just okay with how I look. Thank you for what you said it made me cry with some form of melancholy happiness. You’re a great guy Phil.
"Promotes the idea that if you eat less you lose weight"
Well... isn't that exactly how it works?
Yoonmin trash for the most part yes. But addiction and thyroid issues to name a couple. There is usually mental issues in tandem.
I think it's more the whole "she wasn't able to eat at and thus lost large amounts of weight quickly" things that worries people more. As someone who's had an eating disorder, I can attest that there is a difference to losing weight in a healthy way and losing weight in a emotionally and physically damaging way.
Personally, I can understand some of the concerns, but don't think that's the type of message the show's going for, and that it's wrong to preemptively pass judgement. It's best to leave the debate until after people can actually watch it, lol
True, but usually when someone loses weight rapidly they have tend to have loose skin hanging
Yes and no. That generally is what happens when you eat less, but the point they were making is that eating less typically involves a pretty serious eating disorder, which is obviously a bad thing. I completely agreed with them on that. And I get why people are so quick to defend the show, but I personally don't trust Netflix to do series like this well. Not after 13 Reasons glamorized suicide, and Atypical made a joke out of autistic people dating.
A lot of overweight people are that way not really because they eat more, but because their diet consists of mostly, if not only, unhealthy food. That's fairly common in America where fast foods are cheap and everywhere.
I bet all these people getting mad over fat shaming watch 13 Reasons why. Bit of a double standard
koth so true!
I watched 13 reason why, and I’m totally fine with this, not to mention I’m not at my healthiest state either and I think this movie or what ever it is is gonna be fun to watch.
13rw was good...how does it tie in? (for reference, I'm not mad at insatiable AT ALL)
Greeem i read that people said that 13R glorified suicide and that ties to how this movie glorifies getting thin
13rw is seen as problematic, so them calling insatiable "problematic" but still enjoy a show that's "problematic" would be very hypocritical
Speaking of revenge stories, The Revenant was a great movie.
It disturbs me. My parents who watch R rated movies all the time, and they didn't want to go anywhere near it. As far as I know, Leo just grunts and groans in the freezing (REAL) cold to get an Oscar...
Grant - Saturn it was just ok
JakeSpacePirate E it depends on what you want in a movie. If you need action and attention grabbing scenes every 10 minutes then it may not be for you.
I myself don’t mind movies that take a while to set up all the dominoes because they tend to have a satisfying payoff.
Carrie was the shit too. The one with Chloè
I mean if Debbie Ryan ends up fighting a bear in the film then I am way more invested in this film coming out
I lived this show because I felt as if I got to know you even more Phil! It shows how similar so many of us are to not only you, but each other in the comments, and that relatability and openness is one of the many reasons why your audience trusts you and your unbiased take on reporting the news. Thanks for consistently being such a BAMF, you just gained another patreon supporter ❤️
I thought Debbie Ryan graduated from tv high school like 6 years ago
And didn't she become a nanny of some rich kids for a bit? Her life really has taken some turns.
Rishav Mukherjee better than the corn farm where she started out at least
I was a fatty when I was in primary school. and I guess I've been losing weight through out the years and never noticed and still wore the same size uniform until one day in secondary school, I wore my sisters old uniform, which was 2 sizes smaller than my own, cause I was late and ran out of clean uniform, so I got to school and like everyone was giving me looks, and I just though oh I'm wearing a smaller uniform and its weirding them out. and then one guy was like did you have lipo? and I was like wtf? and and then I realised oh I'm not as fat as i once was. and then when I got home, I told my mom, she started laughing and then we went shopping for uniforms in my newly discovered size. the end.
hellolala That's a pretty cool story.
What is lipo?
tenzin tsenpey liposuction. actual surgery to remove fat cells from the body.
I think that Debby Ryan Netflix show looks awesome and I’m super excited for it. I liked her in her Disney shows so I’m glad she’s getting more work! As for the “controversy,” people need to get the whole story before they judge something. Also, this transformation plot has been done countless times with no issue and this story even takes a pretty interesting twist on it.
Danielle C yeah I feel so bad for Debby! She doesn’t deserve this backlash. I can’t wait to insatiable because it looks very entertaining.
I think part of the issue is that the world is changing (as it should). And people and stories need to change as well.
There are plenty of racist shit that people did countless times in the past that just won't work now because it is problematic.
This obviously does not hit that far, but people need to stop giving other people image issues and treat other with respect and kindness. I'm not saying that is what this movie is trying to do. I'm not entirely sure what it's trying to do, so I'll wait and see.
Regardless, I completely understand the response to this type of story choice, and I have my own reservations.
"Problematic" Holy moly we got a snowflake over here.
I mean.....you into that? Asking for a friend...
Jonathon There's a large difference between someone's race and their weight. No one can control their race. Everyone can control their weight. If you don't like people making fun of you because you're fat, lose weight. "Fat Shaming" is by far the most effective method of obesity control. Fat acceptance is not a progressive movement, it's a regressive one that acts contrary to years of research and evidence that prove that a person's choice to be obese is quite literally them choosing to kill themselves, in which case they obviously don't care about themselves so why should we care about them either.
Thank you for finally covering and bringing to light the problems of my country, the more the world knows about the right side of the story the better.
im a fat mc fatty pants and people need to relize that these are movies or shows NOT REAL LIFE!!! if u want to do go Volunteer at a local ymca or start a awareness movment i mean people are taking shows and movies way to seroirse!
brian appshole Ronan?
came from PRE-SHOW ;)
Girls Play me too
Same
I'M GONNA PRE
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Holy crap, you're a channel I haven't seen in ages
Love how you shared your story ❤ thanks Phil xx
Look how beautiful you are now! I’ve always struggled with my weight. I lost 100lbs and people who bullied me suddenly wanted to be friends. It’s a mindset that society needs to correct.
Tbf, some people have some deep deep issues about it. My bro *hates* fat people because they remind him of his family. He once counted the calories of food a larger person was buying in front of him. He won't deny it either, dude probably should go to therapy.
He says he should too, but he hates fat people too much to try to not hate them.
Optical Enthusiast It just looks like they're being arseholes actually, and that's the problem - people feel justified in bullying fat people if it "encourages them to be healthy". Most of the time, it doesn't work anyway!
Optical Enthusiast I find it hard to believe that treating somebody with health issues like a subhuman, mocking his appearance which stems from other health issues, either mental or physical, can be in any way considered encouraging. I've been struggling with my weight all my life and I've been called many names, treated like shit, beaten up and people said that because I weigh more than them that I do not deserve to be happy and I don't deserve love and I should just die. That's not encouraging, that's just kicking a man when he's down. Encouragement should come from people's respect, support and understanding of other people's issues, not from amplifying the misery of a person in distress trying to break him. How come when someone gets cancer, is struggling with addiction or suffers in any other way health-wise people are helpful to them but it's so hard for everyone to NOT beat up a fat kid for looking differently than others? Talking from experience, the only thing your "society" ever encouraged me to do was put a noose around my neck, 'cause nobody has ever shown any support and help in my struggles by bullying me.
JJJ 444 That’s such bullshit. I went to medical school and genetics play a HUGE part into obesity, as well as how you are raised. Kids have food put on their plate. If their parents eat like shit, they have to eat like shit. A 10 year old isn’t going to go get a job so he can afford to buy his own food. Some parents won’t let kids leave the table until he finishes his plate. But keep victim blaming, it makes you look so nice.
Here is a good 15 year study review on the genetics of obesity. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137002/
Gotta love good old Philly D, seemlessly transitioning from a fat-shaming controversy to an ad for a food on-demand app.
Stevee Johnson , it's not the app that makes people fat, it's what food they order using the app.
As crazy as this sounds I started eating healthier at work because I can just order healthy meals from restaurants instead of picking up quick fast food. But I guess it depends on what you order.
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I don't understand... what does MGM has anything to do with the shooting... like do you check what people bring in their cases and bags, and MGM didn't do that? So people are saying MGM is wrong for protecting themselves from the victims who's gonna sue whoever for money just because they are the victims. Yes the event was horrible but I don't see why MGM needs to pay for it.
ooXChrissieXoo MGM owns Mandalay bay
ty wayne they own a piece of property where a horrific crime was committed, they didn’t commit the crime. If the victims can get money from MGM it would be the same as me getting mugged in front of your house and then me suing you for the loss I suffered
Alex Thompson why tag me in this I never said anything he asked why and I told him
ty wayne sorry I didn’t realize that’s what you were clarifying
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As a Venezuelan the Nicaraguan situation sounds too familiar I just hope they come out better than we did... Also not surprised the representative from Venezuela didn't find anything wrong with what was happening
Ortega being part of the revolution back in the day, and now is on the other end reminds me of Batman "You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain"
I struggled with anorexia for years in high school and I’m not offended by the Debbie Ryan show. So sick of everyone being offended by literally everything.
Ash Carlton a good offense is a good defense. Though I don't think that saying applies here
1st story is outrage culture at its finest, if you don't like the story, make your own.
I struggled with my weight as well during my late teens and early twenties, although my weight issue was being underweight, not over.
When I was 15, I caught the H1N1 flu virus and dropped 15 pounds in a week, becoming underweight at 120 pounds being 5' 11" tall. After that, I battled the inability to eat. Food just wasn't satisfying and often made me sick to my stomach if I ate even half of the portions I was supposed to eat. I was pretty weak and often would get dizzy if I did anything super strenuous.
It wasn't until the age of 21, after graduating at a community college, that I finally started to eat right and gain weight again. I'm now 24 and sitting at 140 pounds. I feel so much better than I did back then, even though there's still some holdover anxiety about food, I'm getting better.
It's important to remember that if you struggle with being either over or underweight that you're still important, valued, and loved no matter your body type.
supersonic776
Thank you. I struggle with being underweight due to stomach issues preventing me from eating a lot and extracting all the nutrients from food. I often feel weak, dizzy, etc but I get no sympathy because "how can you complain if you're skinny, you should be glad".
prettylittleravenna I completely understand how you feel.
People dont understand that being underweight is very taxing on the body. Especially if you ever catch the flu or even a simple cold because it causes you to eat even less.
Hang in there! It will get better!
supersonic776 Thanks for the support and understanding. ☺ I'm managing to slowly get it up, so hopefully one day I'll reach my optimal bmi