Because Science So when are you going to be taking this show to its own channel? It's about time, and you know it. This show is the only reason a lot of people are subscribed... like me xD. Edited for political correctness.
Roll with the drop, also, Kinetic force is Area of projectile divided by area of impact multiplied by speed of projectile, hence why railguns,golf clubs, and eggs are useful weapons.
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+Just BØNY - Do you mean falling straight down? If that's the case I don't see how that would make it look weird if you actually do the roll properly and do it as you hit the ground if the fall was high enough to justify it.
You can't roll if you fall straight down, because it will require you to move in a completely different direction than the direction of the fall. Watch parkour vids and you will always see them rolling when they fall sideways, not straight down.
I think it would look cooler if you could control your deceleration enough to manage a sudden stop just before connecting with the surface, for an impactless stop. Supers who fly unaided should be able to manage that as they seem to ignore momentum most of the time.
I think your velocity numbers for Iron Man 2 are off by an order of magnitude, because he's not dropping from a standstill.. If you watch the scene leading up to that, he's not going from a stabilized position 30m up, he's jumping from an airplane at cruising altitude, descending in an aerodynamic position. Let's assume the extra mass from the suits exactly cancels out the extra wind resistance from being slightly bigger, and say that his terminal velocity in a head-first position would be about the same as a typical person's (about 300 km/h). He then accelerates himself further (just eyeballing it, it looks like his speed roughly doubles), and then smashes into the ground, making no visible attempt to decelerate (although he obviously reorients in the last second or so). So, that's about 600km/h, or about 166 m/s. So, I get a total force of 772,000 kN. Alternately, he's experiencing an acceleration (assuming 1/24 of a second) of 4000 m/s/s, or about 408 Gs, over that fraction of a second. So, yeah. I don't care what that suit is made of. Tony Stark's skull has been squeezed through the neck of his suit and is now firmly lodged in what remains of his pelvic girdle. Not that his brain hasn't always been located there, but now it's a bit more literal.
He said he's assuming that he fell from a stand still 100 feet above the ground. Yes, it's not 100% accurate but it's to give an example of how bad it would be.
+ Epic Lightning, uh, aaaactually, even a rapid deceleration in the last moment is only going to spread all that force over only fractionally more time. It may no longer be an instant stop but the difference is tiny, like driving your car into a solid concrete wall vs padding that wall with a few mattresses. The impulse will still be enough to liquefy his brain.
I love that in Deadpool 2, his KNEE freaking REALIGNS itself when he stands-proving that even at the height HE jumped from is risky for a regular degular human with no special armor to do a Superhero Landing.
I've done the landing before, not on purpose but that's kinda what happens when you end up stumbling after the initial landing phase (I also faceplanted the floor). My foot slipped, my knee went down and I went forward to the ground. Bink bonk boom. Really graceful, lolz
The only successful thing I ever did (at a pretty low height from the ground) was the glide thing that Batman does in the movies...it kinda worked but I was just being a nerd and seeing if it was possible. However I think to do the actual Batman glide from a higher altitude well it's a bit more complicated than it might seem
In regards to the bat man scene, the force is not correct because the car is crumpled over a period of time, therefore creating a higher impulse, (F*DeltaT). He demonstrates this earlier with the egg example.
Also he didn’t account for wind resistance, Batman’s cape is specifically noted to be designed for gliding, and in the scene he is using it to control his fall. Also he fails to account for the Iron Man armours flaps and stabilizers.
Can't argue with anything here! Having practiced Parkour for a good while now, we've basically tested various landing techniques to find out which one is most useful if you don't want to destroy your knees. Essentially a break-fall roll becomes useful anywhere from 1m drops and beyond. However, I'd like to point out that when you mention "normal landings" you're actually using two different techniques in the footage you show. The first one shows you just bending your legs to absorb the impact, whereas the second example, with the fat height drop in the rock climbing hall, shows you not only bending your knees, but also tapping the floor and bending your arms to absorb impact as well. In Parkour, we usually call this a "safety tap" and it makes a massive difference in how the impact is absorbed across your body. Just to show you how effective it can be, watch this; th-cam.com/video/HlZlzn1NFWQ/w-d-xo.htmlm5s Try taking that drop without your hands... your knees would probably equal pudding after that.
I noticed the same thing. I always assumed a "real" superhero landing would involve the feet hitting first, then the legs bending to absorb a lot of the force, slowing down until the knee impacts the ground a lot more gently, and at the same time the arm hits the ground and similarly bends to also absorb some impact. The way these calculations are being done is seeming to assume a single point of impact on just the kneecap causing them to come to a complete stop as an essentially rigid body, which is clearly not how it's done. At least not by non-superstrength heroes.
Yeah, there's a significant difference between the rigid-body drop where you're already crouched/kneeling before you hit the ground, and a landing where you land with your feet then collapse down into a crouch, and rebound to the classic pose. Keeping your thigh vertical the whole time is going to hurt (and limit how low your core can get before you stop, thereby limiting your stopping distance and stopping time), but I can get lower on one knee than I can squatting, so landing in a position that naturally rebounds into the SHL pose gives me a better stopping distance than anything that doesn't leave me flat on the ground...
Yeah I consider every time batman does that style of landing a poor choice,. If you have Superman or Wonder woman fine They have reinforced bodies even Deadpool or Wolverine can get away with it as there healing factor means that it would hurt but repair. Iron man I think can cheat it. If you think about it he has 3 thrusters pointed downward. one on his foot two on his hands so he can cut the thrust above the landing zone then do a last second suicide burn a couple meters above impact to slow his impact and give the appearance of one.
PK safety roll for the win! When I was practicing parkour I’d do them all the time! It’s all about extending time when landing and spreading the force of impact
@@friendsofpenguins6337 yeah I think fat is replaced by muscle. Muscle is more dense with less volume so Massive remains the same or should remain the same. The human body is weird
I think what he means is that: mass and weight is different. For example, if you went to the moon you would weigh less due to gravity but the amount of YOU there is ie your actual physical mass stays consistent always.
Shockwave Shockwave it's a bit more effective than your hair lol. Considering that it can become rigid and let him glide, it's more like a parachute than a bedsheet. Regardless, it's gonna hurt
He was considering the time it took for Batman to reach the vehicle. So, whatever affect the cape had, he still dropped at a rate great enough, and stopped fast enough to shatter his bones. If you land on a vehicle with enough force to total it like that, you're probably not walking away. It's whatever though, no movie is perfect, but when the plot, story, and characters are great enough, it becomes easier to give a pass to minor flaws like this.
Agreed on both points. Now I have a better way of explaining to classes why the roll works. I've always just said that the roll redirects your downward energy forwards, which means we don't smash into the floor. The coolest part of the parkour roll, in my opinion, is that you can actually use the energy coming out of the roll to do something else: run, run up a wall, vault, probably some tricking moves or whatever else.
Jonathan Spier Haven't tried that parachute landing, but judging by the position the legs end up, it doesn't seem to be practical outside of parachuting. Parachuting isn't free falling, if you do the PLF after a high jump, all of the momentum will go to your feet and they will smash into the ground.
Hey Kyle, So Batman was crushing the van in that scene. Since the top of the van was compressed in that moment, doesn't that reduce the impact force because in increases time AND distance it takes for him to stop? Also another factor in this video, is the Jerk, the rate of change in acceleration. When you're falling in anything that does reduce jerk, your organs will literally crumble in on each other, so even if the force doesn't shatter your bones, the jerk should shatter your brain.. and other squishy matter inside a human. ._.
Juan Carlossanchessrodriguezmarntinezlopez That's likely. He learned his lesson about being arrogant when they blew up his house in California. Now, he uses a pseudonym for safety.
When you say you'll lose weight you are actually saying you'll lose mass. It's just that in our everyday life we call mass weight (no idea why). Weight = mass x g (g= exelaration of gravity). To change your weight, since you can't really change g, you can only gain or lose mass. (g changes a just a little when you are on earth depending on where and how high from the sea's surfice you are, but that is so small a change that it doesn't really make a difference on your wight, or it changes if you go to another planet or any celestial body like the moon, but here I assume that you stay on earth).
almost anything actually mass and weight are different, Mass is a measurement of the amount of matter something contains, while Weight is the measurement of the pull of gravity on an object. also the Mass of an object doesn't change when an object's location changes. Weight, on the otherhand does change with location. think about it if you are standing on earth and your mass is 80 kilograms and you weigh 200 pounds, and you go to the moon, your mass stays the same while your weight doesn't
Tyler Tennies yeah, I know that. I never said that mass and weight are the same. I just said that mass and weight are related to each other (I don't know if the word related is the correct term, probably isn't, but what I mean is that when mass changes, weight changes as well, with the equation connecting them being Weight = mass x g)
my assumption was always that the knee/fist were not the first to hit.... but that both feet hit and they bend their knees to slow themselves to a stop (using their super hero muscles) and the fist to the ground was to stop them from falling over forward (also the "pose" after is very similar to the stance sprinters and football players start in)
ke6960 the issue is not what you land on it's the shortened time it takes to come to a complete stop. You could land any method which makes you stop faster and apply those forces and potentially break anything rather than save it falling slower. The knees are just a good way to land as they buy you the longest time
reallyyou kidd ... right my point was not to argue against that but to add that if you could land and slow yourself but end up in the superhero pose you would be ready to move sooner than landing vertically on both feet then standing all the way back up
Again with the rolling: forwards, sideways or backwards, Jiu Jitsu rolls are designed to start with you falling and end with you on your feet in a ready position. Ready to fight right there, not to compete in the 100m hurdles, but ready. We used to practise a combination of backward roll and defence against a kick by having someone push us over and try to kick us. 10% good stuff, 30% might work on drunks, 55% bullshit and 5% getting yourself crippled for the sake of a cotton belt, but the 10% good stuff was good stuff.
Right, that was my assumption too -- that the superhero landing was basically just a normal landing (complete with flexing knees to slow the landing, as described in the video) and one hand out for balance and stability ... that the knee is never supposed to actually touch the ground.
the only argument i see against rolling is similar to lifeguards diving (at least the way i learned)... if you dive you have to take your eyes off the person you are saving (or fighting as with superheros) so we were taught to jump in feet first and use your arms to keep your head above water as much as possible when jumping in (and in the "super hero landing" their head is up and looking forward usually)
I looked up gold-titanium alloys and they're a real thing: phys.org/news/2016-07-lab-titanium-gold-alloy-harder-steels.html Density in a 3-1 mix of titanium and gold would be 8.2g/cm^3, roughly the same as that of iron or steel. Despite the increased hardness, the alloy is not very much stronger than pure titanium, with a compressive strength of roughly 170MPa, improved to 200MPa at best. If Iron Man's thigh is that of an average man, with a circumference of 20.35 inches (0.517m), and the suit is a hollow column surrounding the thigh with a thickness of X meters, then the 31MPa pressure from a 30m SuperHero Landing would have to be transmitted to the rest of the suit through a surface area of 0.517X m^2. We work out that the thickness of the TiAu metal around Iron Man's thigh would have to be at least 31/(200 x 0.571) = 0.27m. That's right, Iron Man's thighs would have to be a full 27x2: 54cm wider than Tony Stark's thighs. That adds up to a very THICC width of nearly a meter per leg. Of course, the Marvel show writers could have done a *little* bit of research, and found the gold-coloured Titanium Nitride, with a compressive strength 2100MPa (more than 10x better - www.matbase.com/material-categories/ceramics-and-glasses/crystalline/technical/nitrides/material-properties-of-titanium-nitride-tin.html#properties) and reduce the suit's thigh thickness to a more reasonable 2.5cm, but TiN sounds less cool than 'titanium-gold alloy'.
Matter Beam The reason given in the movies as to why Tony uses a titanium-gold alloy is because it is resistant to ice build-up, the thing that caused the Mark 2 suit to shut down.
@umainebearman: Fun with maths and physics. Its also funny to think of Iron Man walking around with huge metal thighs. @Hose Clamp Thanks! I achieved SuperNerd status in the very first vlog.
@Joseph Morse Interesting chain of logic. If I were to solve the problem, I'd use a hydrophobic surface (repels water) and simply add a heating system to the suit's surface, like many cars have today... no need to switch out a strong material for a softer material!
Yes, mass is constant and doesn't rely on gravity, but weight does. But here on Earth, 90kg of mass is 90kg of weight, because we use Earth gravity as a sort of baseline. If you go to the moon, your weight changes, but your mass stays the same. If you weigh 90kg and cut off 10kg, you've still lost 10kg of mass, and weight. You are less massive, and therefore, weigh less. I think I got that right.
My favorite super hero landing to this day is Selene's at the very beginning of "Underworld". In an era of cheesy 3 point landing slowly looking up at the camera with cracked concrete below, she instead jumps off of a tower only to land with both legs, gently as if she jumped off something two feet high. I thought it was the most badass way to land; especially at the time since it was unexpected.
Well, he did it (at least) once in the comics, and yes, both halves regenerated into full body. You know about the voices he hears in his mind? [SPOILER]
I know this is a joke... But in the context of the original question, you can't reduce your mass instantly to reduce your momentum while falling. Unless you can shit out ~50% of your body weight and still be alive.
This channel is definitely among the top 5 for the most down to earth and easy to understand knowledge sharers on youtube. Thank you for making this information so accessible and fun.. its truly what is needed to get people interested in the important things! Also, love the random name drops.
William Halter But Batman has a protective suit, I mean, it’s tough enough to hold bullets off so should be enough to absorb a great amount of Newtons, therefore I do not think it would break his kneecap so easily with 4kN
I would love to know the actual calculation in newtons that Tony Stark took smashing into the sands in his Mark 1 suit after escaping the terrorist cave in Iron Man. Compare that to some of the other crashes that he has taken in later movies, and you have to wonder if he might have some vibranium protecting him from shock.
I hate iron man 1 for that reason... did anyone realize how (when he first used his new suit to attack terrorists) that he used his flight stabilizers to destroy a tank , huge WTF moment
Ya, none of those forces on their legs matter because if you pay close attention to how they are all landing. You will notice that their head are hanging forward, almost parallel with the ground. This means that almost all of the force that their heads are experiencing from travel towards the ground is going to be put against their neck in a jerking motion towards the ground. At any kind of 2 story fall you are talking the high end of a low speed collision (20-25mph), that is more than enough force to cause severe hyper-flexion and potentially even be fatal. This is more the case because at those speeds you are most likely to die from such an impact without a safety belt to help lengthen the time the chest comes to a stop. Seat belts extend stopping times up to 4-5 times longer than without a seat belt. Since we know that whiplash (hyperflexion) is caused at speeds as low as 1-2 miles per hour and at a minimum of 3.5 Gs on the neck, we can guarantee that our super hero's will be luck to feel their broken legs after all the damage to their spine and neck. Good demo landing of how to do things right, proper spinal alignment is key in minimizing back injury when falling from great heights. PS: Iron man is the worst offender of this, as he intentionally throws his head forward before he makes his landings, reducing the amount of time even further for his head to come to a stop. #whiplash4dayz
I think a "close as we can get to real" section at the end of the superhero videos would be a good idea. We get that we can't be The Flash and run at superluminal speeds, but what's the fastest a person could theoretically travel in a locomotive motion, while getting to the absolute physical limits, ignoring the real limits of current materials or computational technology?
This channel is to comic book films what Mythbusters is to all Hollywood films and TV shows =P Great stuff but most people would say that Batman would be ok because... he's Batman! hahaa.
He wasn't ok in the Dark Knight Rises movie though. I'm not saying it's because the hero landing, he did it like once in the whole Nolan's trilogy (don't remember seeing him doing it more than once), but still wasn't ok after some years of batmaning. The hero landing might just add to all that damage that he had after all these years of being Batman (8 years was it?).
Of course he would be okay because it is Batman! We talking about the Guy who has ALWAYS Kryptinite with him because Superman COULD become a Threat....ore mind controled like in jung Youstice.
There’s at least one video of a parkour dude falling from about 2 stories (15-20 ft) onto concrete. He lands in a squat and bends his knees, as this vid suggests. No damage. He walks away. But, he also probably has really strong legs. Most non-athletes would knock themselves out with a knee to the face from that height, but the strong-legged can do it. On the other hand, I once fell onto concrete from 7-8 ft (my hands were at about 15’ and I was dangling below). I landed in a 4 point stance, crawling style, accidentally. I bruised the bone underneath of my patella and it hurt for weeks after. I also kind of jammed both wrists and bruised a toe. I walked away but it wasn’t fun.
Noob First Class sure. It’s safer than any dead stop landing mostly because you don’t actually stop moving, the force gets applied over a longer time, which is the point of this video. Sort of the same reason landing on an incline, as in ski jumping, is safer. You don’t impact and stop, you just redirect and keep going.
What video and what surface? There are some vids that are fake and many others that have situations like you describe are onto sand or piles of dirt. Often when not rolling, they do a 4 point contact to spread the impact to the arms too. And yes conditioning helps strengthen but it's more about bio mechanics and technique which are built up after months or years of training. When Kyle landed in this video he landed very roughly and his knees where at a near perfect 90 degrees or worse which is dangerous. Want to lean forward on the balls of your feet as you land instead and have the knees only bend a bit.
Parkour and science person here! I can confirm. The best way to land is a roll. A judo roll. It takes much longer to stop, and the force is applied to the stronger length of your spine. Regular landings apply it the weak way. So, if you want to take a long fall (12-15 ft.) and walk away fine, learn to parkour roll.
This reminds of the time when I was playing frisbee. I jumped up high to grab the disc (but I failed), and I had to roll forward when I dropped to the ground. After the roll, I hit my knee on the ground and I did a superhero pose. Man, my knee hurt after that. No fractures, but it hurt a lot!
Pete H in the comic version of infinity war Adam Warlock is central to the plot, and they have to do something to reverse Thanos actions since Spider-Man has a movie coming out and Rocket is the only GOTG left
Hello Kyle Great episode proving one of the craziest guys in Marvel was correct :'D 2 Things: 1) A mutant could have the required strength/density to manage the landing without hurting themselves. You focused on Ironman and Batman for the superhero landing. I know Ironman has taken drastic beatings in his suit, that if not for the suit, would have killed Tony. However, with Batman, would he not take serious damage being rattle around in a suit with those kinds of pressures you discussed? 2) The reverse of the superhero landing, the superhero take-off. Ironman seems to not damage the ground, regardless of lift off velocity. But in a movie like Hancock, Hancock wrecks the ground just as badly when he takes-off. How would one leave the ground at accelerated speed without damaging the ground beneath themselves? Take Care and Be Well
James Quest i think that's because when a superhuman like hancock takes off, he's applying a reverse force to propel himself upward. Iron man propels himself through his blast, which at worst would leave scorch marks
James Quest Batman's suit is reinforced. It is noting like Tony's though. I think it has Kevlar weave in to it. Others have pointed out about his cape and how the van woulf of absorbed some of the energy on landing landing.
Dalton Williams The propulsion iron man exerts on him and his suit would provide equal force on the ground he's taking off of. It would do much more than just "leave scorch marks".
Zyxyx but it obviously isn't even remotely similiar to how superhumans like hulk leap or take off the ground. Something like a space shuttle exudes far more propulsive force in taking off but it doesn't break apart the ground beneath it
Dalton Williams / Zyxyx - Being that the propulsion from the Ironman suit and Space Shuttles are different, as Space Shuttles use fuel and Ironman suit uses the arc reactor power, they may react with the ground differently. We'd have to break down the equation of how fast Ironman takes off, and the amount of energy/mass being pressed/thrown at the ground to get him to that speed. That would tell us what, if any, damage the ground would have to take.
we are forgetting that landing on a car it's gonna fold inward, and cars being made of... METAL (or... fiberglass?) there will be shards that will stick into whoever lands on it
Tony Stark’s suit already allows him to withstand ridiculously high g’s while flying. What’s to say he doesn’t have some sort of inner lining that cushions his soft human bits during those extremely impractical-but-cool landings?
Angela Hsiao i mean, he does in the comics. He has some undersuit im assuming absorbs tons of impact, but tony in the movies is generally in casual wear under the suit
Dalton Williams They changed it in Infinity war. That track suit is somewhat reminiscent of his inner suits in the comics. Also in the ultimates universe, the Iron Man suit is filled with some kind of goop that likely provides inertial damping
At the very most an inner liner would be no more than 1 in thick all around his body. Regardless of the type of padding used, 1 inch of thickness can only absorb a certain amount of impact. A good example would be a motorcycle helmet. It uses a one-time collapsible foam to absorb and spread out an impact over a large area. It does have its limitations but it seems that Iron Man far greatly exceeds all of these limitations of what is practical. Meaning his body should be a mangled mess inside of that suit after some of the impacts we see in the movies.
His organs and bones are still moving though, so his body would still be affected the changes in acceleration. That's also why he wouldn't be able to go super fast in his suits -he would black out.
what he is saying is that iron man never goes straight super fast he is always turning flipping around stopping shooting etc. so constant acceleration and deceleration lead to him not being able to safely move very fast
Michiel Van Der Merwd Well it cant absorb all force, otherwise he wouldn’t be walking all that well, or punching things. Or if it does every other step he took would be twice as strong. Actually, that would be quite cool. Just seeing him trying to do mundane tasks would be interesting.
It will absorb the force, but not stop momentum; as mentioned in prior Because Sciences. So the biggest threat is neck injury, very very severe neck injury.
You ever fallen on to something soft and still felt slightly winded even though it didnt hurt? Same sort of thing. So he would come to a dead stop and depending on the height it could cause any number of injuries. The suit would be ok though so his successor doesnt have to worry.
Bones may be fine due to reduced impact, but the squishy bits still have to decelerate. The suit only absorbs energy at the suit, so all of his internal organs wouldn't have their energy reduced until they impacted the suit. He would be paste inside the suit, depending on how far he fell. Paste with intact bones mixed in.
Seriously, so many things. Iron Man wouldn't free fall. He would slow his decent like a Falcon 9 rocket. Also, being clad in a metal power suit would distribute the impact around him, rather than just on the points on which he landed. Batman hitting a car wouldn't receive 100% of the force. The car crumpling, like crumple zones we use to mitigate crashes injuring people, would reduce the impact on him. Not to mention his suit no doubt has some impact dampening features. Bending your legs when you land does not only extend the time of impact. It also distributes the force into you very elastic muscle tissues, which are applying a gradually greater resistance to that impact. You assume a SHL impact would be focused on the knee. I propose that in reality you are actually increasing the surface area of impact in that pose. There are at least 4 points of impact, a foot, a knee, 5 toes, and a fist. While knees are made of bone, the knee cap is cartilage and has some nice squishy properties to it. Your final point is correct. Normal humans shouldn't perform a SHL.
Well, when batman lands on the van the van bent meaning thant the van took some amount of force away from batman and the bending if the van also makes the stoppage time larger and lowering the acceleration and by that the force but i think you took that in to consideration when timing his stop
THANKYOU. I do a series on my channel where I do parkour in superhero costumes and in the One Punch Man episode I joked that superhero landings are horrible not only on your body, but also if you are wearing a cape, the cape falls to cover your head. So many people told me in the comments that superhero landings are fine. I WAS RIGHT
I am a civil engineer, and also a martial artist. I know people at my old dojo who were chosen as extras for horror movies specifically because they know how to fall. The first part of what you said, about landing on your feet and slowly crumpling to spread out the impact time, is dead on. However, when you plant you feet you want to give yourself a little bit of forward or backward moment, and roll to end up with the final landing on your back. This serves to spread the final impact force across your entire body, rather than just your legs. This helps ensure that the resultant stress across any individual member in your body is not enough to cause damage. However, you need to have a lot of experience doing this on the mat before you try it in real life, as there is a real risk of landing wrong and breaking your neck.
In parkour you bend your legs, arms, and do a shoulder roll, which spreads out the impact across your back and converts donwards energy to forwards landing. Also the Batman picture in your video looks like he's not actually on his knee, that landing looks fine.
I accidently did a Superhero landing once. Was doing some rappelling training in the Guard. I went over the edge and hanging on like normal, looked over my shoulder and my Belay-man was goofing off. Turned back around and I just messed up and let go and fell straight to the ground and did a Superhero landing. (1 story luckily). I have a bad knee to this day.
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can you prove flat earthers wrong and do an episode called: "why you do not want the earth to be flat." your science and knowledge can prove gravity exists, and that if we were a flat earth, we'd have no night time and you can show just how different the world would be if was only day according to flat earthers. things would die out. then they make an excuse as to... oh the sun just turns off. is it just me or dose that sound scientifically and physically impossible? please de-bunk the flat earth belief once and for all, i believe you are the only one who can do so.
Angel Ky. Can anyone prove that the earth spins?I challenge anyone to take a helicopter and hover above the earth 1000 ft in one postion and take a video showing the surface of the earth moving.
My question is for those heroes who can take the forces involved does the super hero landing help them stop better than just hitting on two feet. I figure other than looking cool they are trying to stop in a stable way and avoid rolling forward which they don't want to do as the landing impact is not their problem. Another way hero's who break the ground instead of themselves when landing is they just hit feet first stiff legs, I always thought they should end up feet embedded in the ground doing that more often. So if your a hero who can take the impact and do not worry about damage to your self what is the best way to land and be ready to fight? Batman is supposed to be a normal human but the often forget that at times.
Remember when Rhodey went into free fall and smashed his spine? The MCU acknowledges there’s high tech wonkery in the suits that eliminates the force of impact.
In The Dark Knight Bats lands on a car, stopping it dead in its tracks (somehow). But how would the situation change if the car kept on being in motion after the impact? Would that make the landing less knee-breaking? And, since we're on this topic: the roof visibly bends under Bruceman's weight, which, I would assume, not only prolongs the impact, but also absorbs a good portion of its energy. It isn't really comparable to doing the same kind of landing on concrete, but probably still explains why Batwayne is limping in Dark Knight Rises.
Thanks for watching! Yes, my thighs were destroyed by this, and yes, that egg hurt *real* bad. I told them to really whip it at my chest. -- KH
Because Science Kyle suffering in the name of science.
Because Science So when are you going to be taking this show to its own channel? It's about time, and you know it.
This show is the only reason a lot of people are subscribed... like me xD.
Edited for political correctness.
Roll with the drop, also, Kinetic force is Area of projectile divided by area of impact multiplied by speed of projectile, hence why railguns,golf clubs, and eggs are useful weapons.
Batman landing on the vehicle will have the increase time of the roof crumpling and softening the impact no?
@Dais Flaque: Huh? It is its own channel!
your slow motion superhero landing would make an excellent shampoo commercial.
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Yeah.
"It's hard on your knees"
~Deadpool
"Superhero landing!"
˜Also Deadpool
@Miles McClentic yes
Pretty sure that quote tis from Kumala "Heels up" Harris...🤔
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Nat Romanov:"Worth it."
That's why its called "Super Hero Landing"!
Not "Normal Boring Human Landing"
That's why he's telling you to not do it
@@kapybara8079 Good golly friend! What if I told you, my home slice bread slice dawg, that I'm actually a super radtastic superhuman?
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Sault out of bed each morning performing this landing from *SPACE* !! 🌜
@@dumbbumsc5329 You're knees are still hurting
*I K N O W*
Batman isn't a SUPERhero, just a hero.
@@henryviii4629 A super rich hero
Batman uses his Cape for increasing the time of impact
Iron man has armor to protect himself (let’s create a chain)
Deadpool break his legs and regenerate so fast
Superman is invincible so...
NovaWolf 101 Kryptonite
@@limitlessunknown8676 we are talking about resisting superhero landings
This is why landing in a roll is good; it gives your body more time to disperse of the kinetic energy and it looks cool, a win-win situation.
But what if you're failing straight? it will look weird
+Just BØNY - Do you mean falling straight down? If that's the case I don't see how that would make it look weird if you actually do the roll properly and do it as you hit the ground if the fall was high enough to justify it.
You can't roll if you fall straight down, because it will require you to move in a completely different direction than the direction of the fall. Watch parkour vids and you will always see them rolling when they fall sideways, not straight down.
But it doesn’t crack the ground so it’s not cool
I think it would look cooler if you could control your deceleration enough to manage a sudden stop just before connecting with the surface, for an impactless stop. Supers who fly unaided should be able to manage that as they seem to ignore momentum most of the time.
Well that explains why Bruce could barely walk in in the dark knight rises...
lol
D. Mat.Zero6 amen
Nigel UnderFan tf
Ive seen worse cartilage in a knee
This is why Batfleck never does the "superhero landing".
1:19 Or how Riddick describes it "It's not the fall that kills you... it's the sudden stop at the bottom"
Yeah he was making a reference/joke about it
the fall DOES kill you tho when you're afraid of heights, realize you're falling, and then have a heart attack
I love the part in Deadpool 2, where he makes a superhero landing and regrets it xD
The only movie that gets it right
Why is Thor telling us not to land like a superhero
Wow, I just checked the comments.. Looks like I am not the only one who thinks he is Thor.
Lemon Juice Oooo
Because he wants to look cooler then everyone else. 😂
I know XD
He thinks we'll steal his thunder
I think your velocity numbers for Iron Man 2 are off by an order of magnitude, because he's not dropping from a standstill..
If you watch the scene leading up to that, he's not going from a stabilized position 30m up, he's jumping from an airplane at cruising altitude, descending in an aerodynamic position. Let's assume the extra mass from the suits exactly cancels out the extra wind resistance from being slightly bigger, and say that his terminal velocity in a head-first position would be about the same as a typical person's (about 300 km/h). He then accelerates himself further (just eyeballing it, it looks like his speed roughly doubles), and then smashes into the ground, making no visible attempt to decelerate (although he obviously reorients in the last second or so). So, that's about 600km/h, or about 166 m/s. So, I get a total force of 772,000 kN. Alternately, he's experiencing an acceleration (assuming 1/24 of a second) of 4000 m/s/s, or about 408 Gs, over that fraction of a second.
So, yeah. I don't care what that suit is made of. Tony Stark's skull has been squeezed through the neck of his suit and is now firmly lodged in what remains of his pelvic girdle. Not that his brain hasn't always been located there, but now it's a bit more literal.
woah, I probably couldn’t be able to solve something like this.
He said he's assuming that he fell from a stand still 100 feet above the ground. Yes, it's not 100% accurate but it's to give an example of how bad it would be.
Tony's suit has thrusters that slow down his impact at the moment of contact, actually.
#nerdknowledge
+ Epic Lightning, uh, aaaactually, even a rapid deceleration in the last moment is only going to spread all that force over only fractionally more time.
It may no longer be an instant stop but the difference is tiny, like driving your car into a solid concrete wall vs padding that wall with a few mattresses.
The impulse will still be enough to liquefy his brain.
I love that in Deadpool 2, his KNEE freaking REALIGNS itself when he stands-proving that even at the height HE jumped from is risky for a regular degular human with no special armor to do a Superhero Landing.
Exactly. He will heal no matter what.
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I've done the landing before, not on purpose but that's kinda what happens when you end up stumbling after the initial landing phase (I also faceplanted the floor). My foot slipped, my knee went down and I went forward to the ground.
Bink bonk boom. Really graceful, lolz
I broke my Arm because I did this (When I was 4)
Totally graceful 😂😂😂
The only successful thing I ever did (at a pretty low height from the ground) was the glide thing that Batman does in the movies...it kinda worked but I was just being a nerd and seeing if it was possible. However I think to do the actual Batman glide from a higher altitude well it's a bit more complicated than it might seem
Being graceful is overrated anyway 😝
But according to Dying Light if you jump on a car from a radio tower, you'll be fine
You may be onto something
Or into piles of garbage... love that game but its quirky as hell
Ty Rivera I think that’s the beauty of it
That isn't Real you know
@@shelbybayer200 Really?
In regards to the bat man scene, the force is not correct because the car is crumpled over a period of time, therefore creating a higher impulse, (F*DeltaT). He demonstrates this earlier with the egg example.
Thank you! I was yelling that at the screen.
Yes the car absorb the more impact force better than land because of its density and space.
Also he didn’t account for wind resistance, Batman’s cape is specifically noted to be designed for gliding, and in the scene he is using it to control his fall. Also he fails to account for the Iron Man armours flaps and stabilizers.
@@richardbrown3055 he literally already said he wasn’t going to account for wind resistance…
Can't argue with anything here! Having practiced Parkour for a good while now, we've basically tested various landing techniques to find out which one is most useful if you don't want to destroy your knees. Essentially a break-fall roll becomes useful anywhere from 1m drops and beyond.
However, I'd like to point out that when you mention "normal landings" you're actually using two different techniques in the footage you show. The first one shows you just bending your legs to absorb the impact, whereas the second example, with the fat height drop in the rock climbing hall, shows you not only bending your knees, but also tapping the floor and bending your arms to absorb impact as well. In Parkour, we usually call this a "safety tap" and it makes a massive difference in how the impact is absorbed across your body.
Just to show you how effective it can be, watch this; th-cam.com/video/HlZlzn1NFWQ/w-d-xo.htmlm5s
Try taking that drop without your hands... your knees would probably equal pudding after that.
Because Science video analysis of District B13 landings next?
I noticed the same thing. I always assumed a "real" superhero landing would involve the feet hitting first, then the legs bending to absorb a lot of the force, slowing down until the knee impacts the ground a lot more gently, and at the same time the arm hits the ground and similarly bends to also absorb some impact. The way these calculations are being done is seeming to assume a single point of impact on just the kneecap causing them to come to a complete stop as an essentially rigid body, which is clearly not how it's done. At least not by non-superstrength heroes.
Yeah, there's a significant difference between the rigid-body drop where you're already crouched/kneeling before you hit the ground, and a landing where you land with your feet then collapse down into a crouch, and rebound to the classic pose. Keeping your thigh vertical the whole time is going to hurt (and limit how low your core can get before you stop, thereby limiting your stopping distance and stopping time), but I can get lower on one knee than I can squatting, so landing in a position that naturally rebounds into the SHL pose gives me a better stopping distance than anything that doesn't leave me flat on the ground...
Yeah I consider every time batman does that style of landing a poor choice,. If you have Superman or Wonder woman fine They have reinforced bodies even Deadpool or Wolverine can get away with it as there healing factor means that it would hurt but repair. Iron man I think can cheat it. If you think about it he has 3 thrusters pointed downward. one on his foot two on his hands so he can cut the thrust above the landing zone then do a last second suicide burn a couple meters above impact to slow his impact and give the appearance of one.
PK safety roll for the win!
When I was practicing parkour I’d do them all the time!
It’s all about extending time when landing and spreading the force of impact
2:05 "you cannot change your mass"
Are you calling me a fatty with no hopes? XD
This is the polite way of saying it.
Doesn't mass remain constant
No matter what
@@friendsofpenguins6337 yeah I think fat is replaced by muscle. Muscle is more dense with less volume so Massive remains the same or should remain the same. The human body is weird
Unless your mr pimm holding a tank
I think what he means is that: mass and weight is different. For example, if you went to the moon you would weigh less due to gravity but the amount of YOU there is ie your actual physical mass stays consistent always.
Thanks for the advice Thor
Wasn’t Batman’s cape designed to lengthen the time of his fall?
Quinntus79 like the Arkham games, it slows him down before landing. Except if you dive shockwave.
It does, like your hair, but it's so loose o doubt it would do anything significant
Shockwave Shockwave it's a bit more effective than your hair lol. Considering that it can become rigid and let him glide, it's more like a parachute than a bedsheet. Regardless, it's gonna hurt
Batman was also trying to stop the car
He was considering the time it took for Batman to reach the vehicle. So, whatever affect the cape had, he still dropped at a rate great enough, and stopped fast enough to shatter his bones. If you land on a vehicle with enough force to total it like that, you're probably not walking away. It's whatever though, no movie is perfect, but when the plot, story, and characters are great enough, it becomes easier to give a pass to minor flaws like this.
A parkour roll is probably the best technique for landing. And it looks cool too
Agreed on both points.
Now I have a better way of explaining to classes why the roll works. I've always just said that the roll redirects your downward energy forwards, which means we don't smash into the floor.
The coolest part of the parkour roll, in my opinion, is that you can actually use the energy coming out of the roll to do something else: run, run up a wall, vault, probably some tricking moves or whatever else.
It’s not cool, it’s actually pretty cringe
Ninja roll
Using the phrase "pretty cringe" is infinitely cringier than a roll on landing.
Jonathan Spier
Haven't tried that parachute landing, but judging by the position the legs end up, it doesn't seem to be practical outside of parachuting.
Parachuting isn't free falling, if you do the PLF after a high jump, all of the momentum will go to your feet and they will smash into the ground.
To sum it all up, if you attempt a SHL your knee is SOL
Underrated comment 🤣
3:24 all you needed is a hammer and some added lightning!!
Swole science
Casual Gamer yeah!
I seriously thought the same thing
Lego Unknown Voltage yes!
Lego Unknown Voltage i watched the entire video due to you.
Hey Kyle,
So Batman was crushing the van in that scene. Since the top of the van was compressed in that moment, doesn't that reduce the impact force because in increases time AND distance it takes for him to stop?
Also another factor in this video, is the Jerk, the rate of change in acceleration. When you're falling in anything that does reduce jerk, your organs will literally crumble in on each other, so even if the force doesn't shatter your bones, the jerk should shatter your brain.. and other squishy matter inside a human.
._.
Cristian Morales you just shattered my brain, jerk.
Yes, this is straight out of car crash science.
Cristian Morales bit why did the van come to a complete shop after the landing?
Maybe the driver reflexively stomped on the brake?
pizza 4breakfast fear of justice? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Deadpool: you're gonna do a superhero landing! Wait for it!
Me: *died after landing*
Deadpool: Ooooh , his bones are not hard enough...
Peter: Mr.Stark...I don't feel so good
Tony: It's probably the fallout from that superhero landing
Not to mention that he probably also needs his spine shoved back inside his body.
Moral of the story, Don't do this...
Unless you are ironman, and if your are ironman... plz reply to me.
Juan Carlossanchessrodriguezmarntinezlopez hi
Your ironman?
wouldn't your name be Tony Stark? Or are you in disguise because of Thanos and infinity war?
Juan Carlossanchessrodriguezmarntinezlopez That's likely. He learned his lesson about being arrogant when they blew up his house in California. Now, he uses a pseudonym for safety.
I am iron
@@narc440 But you not a man...
*THIS GUY LOOK LIKE A THOR SPINOFF*
sid assassin welcome to the channel
You mean Thor was a spinoff from him?
Imsay itsma bucky rip off
Aniya marie Scott a woman with a beard and a mustache? The fuck?
Hhaha lol ur right
Moral of the story, whether you're a superhero or a human, do a parkour roll lads.
As someone who teaches parkour, definitely a skill everyone should know. Saved my ass and and my face too many times to count
*Wasn't expecting someone to throw an egg at him.*
Don't click that link man.
why i see you everywhere
C4isnice why
Clickbait
Whats wrong with the link
3:20 here's a demonstration of why cutting Thor's hair was a mistake.
Sheol_IK 😂
Now that's what I call fabulous.
I think the hair actually balances out the impact
Darold Williams
It acted like a parachute.
Yes
Tested by thor himself
2:05 "You can not change your mass" I was planning on losing weight but nvm then :-(
weight is not the same as mass
When you say you'll lose weight you are actually saying you'll lose mass. It's just that in our everyday life we call mass weight (no idea why). Weight = mass x g (g= exelaration of gravity). To change your weight, since you can't really change g, you can only gain or lose mass. (g changes a just a little when you are on earth depending on where and how high from the sea's surfice you are, but that is so small a change that it doesn't really make a difference on your wight, or it changes if you go to another planet or any celestial body like the moon, but here I assume that you stay on earth).
Almost Anything N U W R D
almost anything actually mass and weight are different,
Mass is a measurement of the amount of matter something contains, while Weight is the measurement of the pull of gravity on an object.
also the Mass of an object doesn't change when an object's location changes. Weight, on the otherhand does change with location.
think about it if you are standing on earth and your mass is 80 kilograms and you weigh 200 pounds, and you go to the moon, your mass stays the same while your weight doesn't
Tyler Tennies yeah, I know that. I never said that mass and weight are the same. I just said that mass and weight are related to each other (I don't know if the word related is the correct term, probably isn't, but what I mean is that when mass changes, weight changes as well, with the equation connecting them being Weight = mass x g)
My girlfriend would like to know what conditioner you use in the next footnotes!
From the Pantheone range of hair-care products?
Mendicant Biased that was Loki funny
I'm Hela weak
shh
Casey Gray he use cat shit and penis discharge
my assumption was always that the knee/fist were not the first to hit.... but that both feet hit and they bend their knees to slow themselves to a stop (using their super hero muscles) and the fist to the ground was to stop them from falling over forward (also the "pose" after is very similar to the stance sprinters and football players start in)
ke6960 the issue is not what you land on it's the shortened time it takes to come to a complete stop. You could land any method which makes you stop faster and apply those forces and potentially break anything rather than save it falling slower. The knees are just a good way to land as they buy you the longest time
reallyyou kidd ... right my point was not to argue against that but to add that if you could land and slow yourself but end up in the superhero pose you would be ready to move sooner than landing vertically on both feet then standing all the way back up
Again with the rolling: forwards, sideways or backwards, Jiu Jitsu rolls are designed to start with you falling and end with you on your feet in a ready position. Ready to fight right there, not to compete in the 100m hurdles, but ready. We used to practise a combination of backward roll and defence against a kick by having someone push us over and try to kick us. 10% good stuff, 30% might work on drunks, 55% bullshit and 5% getting yourself crippled for the sake of a cotton belt, but the 10% good stuff was good stuff.
Right, that was my assumption too -- that the superhero landing was basically just a normal landing (complete with flexing knees to slow the landing, as described in the video) and one hand out for balance and stability ... that the knee is never supposed to actually touch the ground.
the only argument i see against rolling is similar to lifeguards diving (at least the way i learned)... if you dive you have to take your eyes off the person you are saving (or fighting as with superheros) so we were taught to jump in feet first and use your arms to keep your head above water as much as possible when jumping in (and in the "super hero landing" their head is up and looking forward usually)
8:06 who's Bruce Wayne? We are talking about Batman not a rich guy
I looked up gold-titanium alloys and they're a real thing: phys.org/news/2016-07-lab-titanium-gold-alloy-harder-steels.html
Density in a 3-1 mix of titanium and gold would be 8.2g/cm^3, roughly the same as that of iron or steel.
Despite the increased hardness, the alloy is not very much stronger than pure titanium, with a compressive strength of roughly 170MPa, improved to 200MPa at best.
If Iron Man's thigh is that of an average man, with a circumference of 20.35 inches (0.517m), and the suit is a hollow column surrounding the thigh with a thickness of X meters, then the 31MPa pressure from a 30m SuperHero Landing would have to be transmitted to the rest of the suit through a surface area of 0.517X m^2.
We work out that the thickness of the TiAu metal around Iron Man's thigh would have to be at least 31/(200 x 0.571) = 0.27m.
That's right, Iron Man's thighs would have to be a full 27x2: 54cm wider than Tony Stark's thighs. That adds up to a very THICC width of nearly a meter per leg.
Of course, the Marvel show writers could have done a *little* bit of research, and found the gold-coloured Titanium Nitride, with a compressive strength 2100MPa (more than 10x better - www.matbase.com/material-categories/ceramics-and-glasses/crystalline/technical/nitrides/material-properties-of-titanium-nitride-tin.html#properties) and reduce the suit's thigh thickness to a more reasonable 2.5cm, but TiN sounds less cool than 'titanium-gold alloy'.
Ya....so?
Matter Beam you definitely got the super nerd status, what wonderful information
Matter Beam The reason given in the movies as to why Tony uses a titanium-gold alloy is because it is resistant to ice build-up, the thing that caused the Mark 2 suit to shut down.
@umainebearman:
Fun with maths and physics. Its also funny to think of Iron Man walking around with huge metal thighs.
@Hose Clamp
Thanks! I achieved SuperNerd status in the very first vlog.
@Joseph Morse
Interesting chain of logic.
If I were to solve the problem, I'd use a hydrophobic surface (repels water) and simply add a heating system to the suit's surface, like many cars have today... no need to switch out a strong material for a softer material!
For a moment I thought it was Thor in the thumbnail.
Gtm Nayan same
Same
You play gta
Colby TRM I used to until my ps plus ran out
lol same
"You can't lose your mass"
Welp, there goes my diet
Weight isn't Mass.
I know, but if you lose mass, you lose weight
Yes. But if you lose weight, you lose weight. Mass is constant, weight isn't. The only way to lose mass is to cut off your limbs.
Yes, mass is constant and doesn't rely on gravity, but weight does. But here on Earth, 90kg of mass is 90kg of weight, because we use Earth gravity as a sort of baseline. If you go to the moon, your weight changes, but your mass stays the same. If you weigh 90kg and cut off 10kg, you've still lost 10kg of mass, and weight. You are less massive, and therefore, weigh less.
I think I got that right.
Yes, you are correct. But I don't see your point. You can still lose weight on Earth, meaning your diet isn't ruined.
My favorite super hero landing to this day is Selene's at the very beginning of "Underworld". In an era of cheesy 3 point landing slowly looking up at the camera with cracked concrete below, she instead jumps off of a tower only to land with both legs, gently as if she jumped off something two feet high. I thought it was the most badass way to land; especially at the time since it was unexpected.
That freaking "I don't feel so good" meme...
Matteus Silvestre its already played out but won't stop until next year
Marlon Jackson until karius came along
I think complaining about Infinity War memes is becoming a meme itself.
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Wanna know what's cinematic? Kyle's hair in slo-mo.
Well, it is Kinematic.
Damn Thor, you Hela smart.
wink wonk
I see what you did there...
Thats a Loki joke
itsbenxii I Loki saw what you did
Cymes 😂😂
ES SMOOVE 😉
Everybody talkin' 'bout Thor.
No one remembers Zaphod Beeblebrox...
I do!
@Juggled Lotus Anything to get to Magrathea!!!
The BBC version was the good one
Yes!!! I love that movie! My dad was going th name me that, but mom dissagreed(I wonder why?)🤣
When Deadpool lost a hand, he grew a new hand. Why didn't his hand grow a new Deadpool?
Professor Roundbottom Because the part with the brain regenerates (Wait if Deadpool cut hiself in the middle he is cloning his self)
Well, he did it (at least) once in the comics, and yes, both halves regenerated into full body.
You know about the voices he hears in his mind? [SPOILER]
The same reason a lizard tail doesn’t grow a new lizard.
Shut the fuck up
his limbs are psychically connected and they decide which part dies and which part regrows
"You cant change your mass" Challange accepted.
If it comes out my ass it changes my mass
I know this is a joke... But in the context of the original question, you can't reduce your mass instantly to reduce your momentum while falling. Unless you can shit out ~50% of your body weight and still be alive.
I mean it's always possible that something rips off your arm on the way down.
Ouchie ouch
Today's special guest, HowToBasic.
Wtf
*non-descript grunt*
Egg-scelent
I was gonna say Game Theory since this comes so soon after the newest Sonic episode. :P
what do you mean? Kyle is howtobasic
I do this in my climbing gym all the time, makes me feel cool even though I failed a bouldering route. PS we land on a crash pad.
ok "cool" guy, let me know when you shatter your knee
3:22 but it just looks so cool!
Thor came back to Earth be like:
Me: *reads title*
Title: Never do a superhero landing
Me: why?
*Reads channel name*
Channel name: because science
Allen Moree lmao.. I loled
Hah lol
lol.. I lmao'ed
common sense isn't a dead giveaway not to do them?
gozinta82 woah dude.. But i rofl'ed
"You can not change your mass"
Hold my beer. No wait, give me 6 more!
Gara Von Hoiwkenzoiber Lol!!!
This channel is definitely among the top 5 for the most down to earth and easy to understand knowledge sharers on youtube. Thank you for making this information so accessible and fun.. its truly what is needed to get people interested in the important things! Also, love the random name drops.
The femur value is wrong. That is only if it is hit on it's side. If it is hit straight down, it would take 33 kN to destroy the femur.
How much force would it take to push it out of place though. Think that'd still hurt
Or shattering the pelvis
And rupturing the PCL
William Halter But Batman has a protective suit, I mean, it’s tough enough to hold bullets off so should be enough to absorb a great amount of Newtons, therefore I do not think it would break his kneecap so easily with 4kN
Etienne Francois Bane broke his back in that suit and destroyed his helmet.. so idk
Well that explains why the doc says Bruce’s knee are that bad in the Dark Knight rises then
I would love to know the actual calculation in newtons that Tony Stark took smashing into the sands in his Mark 1 suit after escaping the terrorist cave in Iron Man. Compare that to some of the other crashes that he has taken in later movies, and you have to wonder if he might have some vibranium protecting him from shock.
Agreed. Iron Man movies are prime for watching major brain damage occur with explosions as the backdrop.
I hate iron man 1 for that reason... did anyone realize how (when he first used his new suit to attack terrorists) that he used his flight stabilizers to destroy a tank , huge WTF moment
Philip Seitz he used a tiny anti-tank missile to blow up the tank.
Thexsoar the Bearded that'll be hard since we don't know how long it took for him to come to a stop within the sand dune.
Thexsoar the Bearded good point
You know a very cool but practical way of landing? Perform a roll for landing.
Ya, none of those forces on their legs matter because if you pay close attention to how they are all landing. You will notice that their head are hanging forward, almost parallel with the ground. This means that almost all of the force that their heads are experiencing from travel towards the ground is going to be put against their neck in a jerking motion towards the ground. At any kind of 2 story fall you are talking the high end of a low speed collision (20-25mph), that is more than enough force to cause severe hyper-flexion and potentially even be fatal. This is more the case because at those speeds you are most likely to die from such an impact without a safety belt to help lengthen the time the chest comes to a stop. Seat belts extend stopping times up to 4-5 times longer than without a seat belt. Since we know that whiplash (hyperflexion) is caused at speeds as low as 1-2 miles per hour and at a minimum of 3.5 Gs on the neck, we can guarantee that our super hero's will be luck to feel their broken legs after all the damage to their spine and neck.
Good demo landing of how to do things right, proper spinal alignment is key in minimizing back injury when falling from great heights.
PS: Iron man is the worst offender of this, as he intentionally throws his head forward before he makes his landings, reducing the amount of time even further for his head to come to a stop. #whiplash4dayz
Super Heroes. Neck mechanics be damned.
What's the deal, is Thor allergic to eggs? They don't hurt that bad.
Linda Ciccoli but they don't feel so good.
He took it right to the collar bone so that probably doesn’t feel good
An egg is basically a hard shell with a squishy center so its probably like getting shot with a paintball gun.
twistedyogert exactly
A cold egg thrown really hard can hurt a shit ton. Trust me, I've gotten a black eye from one.
In real life, you don't land a superhero landing, superhero landing lands you, in the hospital!
Jess_Marie_G get out
BOOM -- KH
For a guy who Broke his hand when I was 4 I can tell this is very Accurate.
I think a "close as we can get to real" section at the end of the superhero videos would be a good idea.
We get that we can't be The Flash and run at superluminal speeds, but what's the fastest a person could theoretically travel in a locomotive motion, while getting to the absolute physical limits, ignoring the real limits of current materials or computational technology?
Title: "Never Do A Superhero Landing"
Channel Name: Because Science
*slow clap*
This channel is to comic book films what Mythbusters is to all Hollywood films and TV shows =P
Great stuff but most people would say that Batman would be ok because... he's Batman! hahaa.
And video games.
Iron Man would probably be fine.
He wasn't ok in the Dark Knight Rises movie though. I'm not saying it's because the hero landing, he did it like once in the whole Nolan's trilogy (don't remember seeing him doing it more than once), but still wasn't ok after some years of batmaning. The hero landing might just add to all that damage that he had after all these years of being Batman (8 years was it?).
Yeah, with the gear Batman and iron man have, they can land however they want
Of course he would be okay because it is Batman! We talking about the Guy who has ALWAYS Kryptinite with him because Superman COULD become a Threat....ore mind controled like in jung Youstice.
You look like young Thor 😂
Like, 2 years late on that joke...
Vegan Thor...
He looks like jecksepticeye with long hair
Teuku Nazli kurniawan Thor isn’t really blonde you idiot . That marvel version is fake
Zurx yup
11:04 I thought uranium was highly sought-after because of a different, more long-lasting and deadly, property...
Theres the type used in nukes, and the type used in antitank rounds. The kind used in antitank rounds is depleted uranium.
There’s at least one video of a parkour dude falling from about 2 stories (15-20 ft) onto concrete. He lands in a squat and bends his knees, as this vid suggests. No damage. He walks away. But, he also probably has really strong legs. Most non-athletes would knock themselves out with a knee to the face from that height, but the strong-legged can do it. On the other hand, I once fell onto concrete from 7-8 ft (my hands were at about 15’ and I was dangling below). I landed in a 4 point stance, crawling style, accidentally. I bruised the bone underneath of my patella and it hurt for weeks after. I also kind of jammed both wrists and bruised a toe. I walked away but it wasn’t fun.
Noob First Class sure. It’s safer than any dead stop landing mostly because you don’t actually stop moving, the force gets applied over a longer time, which is the point of this video. Sort of the same reason landing on an incline, as in ski jumping, is safer. You don’t impact and stop, you just redirect and keep going.
But could that parkour dude survive the impact of being hit with a raw egg?
What video and what surface? There are some vids that are fake and many others that have situations like you describe are onto sand or piles of dirt. Often when not rolling, they do a 4 point contact to spread the impact to the arms too. And yes conditioning helps strengthen but it's more about bio mechanics and technique which are built up after months or years of training. When Kyle landed in this video he landed very roughly and his knees where at a near perfect 90 degrees or worse which is dangerous. Want to lean forward on the balls of your feet as you land instead and have the knees only bend a bit.
Dave Smiling Coyote no way, they don’t train for that.
absolutely!
mr. good, I don’t feel so stark
ZiDa Herr Gut, ich fühle mich nicht so stark
Deadpool is always right.
Parkour and science person here! I can confirm. The best way to land is a roll. A judo roll. It takes much longer to stop, and the force is applied to the stronger length of your spine. Regular landings apply it the weak way. So, if you want to take a long fall (12-15 ft.) and walk away fine, learn to parkour roll.
That's why Spiderman is one of the most relatable superheroes.
His superhero landing actually works.
Yeah well he dead
Grim Here he has another movie coming up
Grim Here he isn’t dead for long and that’s only in the movies
Yea I do the Spidey landing anytime I jump off something. Lol NERD!
Lucky S I do it accidentally everytime XD
Deadpool already said it’s hard on your knees
He does a Superherolanding in Deadpool 2, and hurt his knees really badly. But he is Deadpool, he heals.
Toxicity No, he’s Deadpool 2
Does anybody else find this guy just cringy and corny??
Owch oof my bones
r/bonehurtingjuice
Aether r/lostredditors
Memetastic your profile picture fits the comment perfectly
UwU yu want som hewp? *nuzzles
That's bone hurting *JUICE*
This reminds of the time when I was playing frisbee. I jumped up high to grab the disc (but I failed), and I had to roll forward when I dropped to the ground. After the roll, I hit my knee on the ground and I did a superhero pose. Man, my knee hurt after that. No fractures, but it hurt a lot!
Hope you have fun with Adam Warlocks Quantum Mechanic Powers in a year ^^
Annika YYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOO
In Infinity War? Warlock won't be in that or probably even GOTG Vol. 3 I bet
Pete H in the comic version of infinity war Adam Warlock is central to the plot, and they have to do something to reverse Thanos actions since Spider-Man has a movie coming out and Rocket is the only GOTG left
He won't be in the Infinity War sequel, James Gunn said he's saving that for Guardians 3
I guess he will be in a post Credit Scene in Infinity War
"You cannot reduce your mass"
not unless I cut off my legs
you smart
Without legs, you can't do the superhero landing !
Our Boy Roy but the legs mass still exists
So i.m guessing you.ve never seen the biggest loser?
Hello Kyle
Great episode proving one of the craziest guys in Marvel was correct :'D
2 Things:
1) A mutant could have the required strength/density to manage the landing without hurting themselves. You focused on Ironman and Batman for the superhero landing. I know Ironman has taken drastic beatings in his suit, that if not for the suit, would have killed Tony. However, with Batman, would he not take serious damage being rattle around in a suit with those kinds of pressures you discussed?
2) The reverse of the superhero landing, the superhero take-off. Ironman seems to not damage the ground, regardless of lift off velocity. But in a movie like Hancock, Hancock wrecks the ground just as badly when he takes-off. How would one leave the ground at accelerated speed without damaging the ground beneath themselves?
Take Care and Be Well
James Quest i think that's because when a superhuman like hancock takes off, he's applying a reverse force to propel himself upward. Iron man propels himself through his blast, which at worst would leave scorch marks
James Quest Batman's suit is reinforced. It is noting like Tony's though. I think it has Kevlar weave in to it. Others have pointed out about his cape and how the van woulf of absorbed some of the energy on landing landing.
Dalton Williams The propulsion iron man exerts on him and his suit would provide equal force on the ground he's taking off of. It would do much more than just "leave scorch marks".
Zyxyx but it obviously isn't even remotely similiar to how superhumans like hulk leap or take off the ground.
Something like a space shuttle exudes far more propulsive force in taking off but it doesn't break apart the ground beneath it
Dalton Williams / Zyxyx - Being that the propulsion from the Ironman suit and Space Shuttles are different, as Space Shuttles use fuel and Ironman suit uses the arc reactor power, they may react with the ground differently. We'd have to break down the equation of how fast Ironman takes off, and the amount of energy/mass being pressed/thrown at the ground to get him to that speed. That would tell us what, if any, damage the ground would have to take.
He's trying so hard not to laugh when the egg is thrown at him.
Please do a video on how Bruce Banner couldn't transform into the Hulk because of the Law of Conservation of Mass. That has always bugged me.
Mac Foraday what if the transformation involves the intake of an amount of atoms?
what if the transformation involved the conversion of energy to atoms since you know
the Hulk is a walking nuke
I just assume all his tissue stretches and becomes incredibly taught, leaving a giant super-strong Styrofoam man with a durable green shell
that's how he got to the trash planet - his low-density body was enough to launch him out of our atmosphere into space
All the more reason to find a possible way to explain it using science.
wouldn't batman get hurt less while falling on that car because it would crumple under him slowing down his fall time?
Yes but only slightly
@@PsychoDiesel48 also accounting his suits padding.
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Batman needs Padding to protect his Dumb Head!!
we are forgetting that landing on a car it's gonna fold inward, and cars being made of... METAL (or... fiberglass?) there will be shards that will stick into whoever lands on it
Tony Stark’s suit already allows him to withstand ridiculously high g’s while flying. What’s to say he doesn’t have some sort of inner lining that cushions his soft human bits during those extremely impractical-but-cool landings?
Angela Hsiao i mean, he does in the comics. He has some undersuit im assuming absorbs tons of impact, but tony in the movies is generally in casual wear under the suit
Kyle's already made a video about how if stark is able to do the moves he does, his suit needs to be designed so hes immune to concussions
Dalton Williams They changed it in Infinity war.
That track suit is somewhat reminiscent of his inner suits in the comics.
Also in the ultimates universe, the Iron Man suit is filled with some kind of goop that likely provides inertial damping
Max Wyght yeah i noticed that track suit looked similiar to what he has in the comics.
At the very most an inner liner would be no more than 1 in thick all around his body. Regardless of the type of padding used, 1 inch of thickness can only absorb a certain amount of impact. A good example would be a motorcycle helmet. It uses a one-time collapsible foam to absorb and spread out an impact over a large area. It does have its limitations but it seems that Iron Man far greatly exceeds all of these limitations of what is practical. Meaning his body should be a mangled mess inside of that suit after some of the impacts we see in the movies.
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*HowToBasic the new super villain!*
I think Ironman would be okay, with that robotic suit protecting him and absorbing the force against his body.
Ethan Karp
He also applies thrust as he lands to soften it
His organs and bones are still moving though, so his body would still be affected the changes in acceleration. That's also why he wouldn't be able to go super fast in his suits -he would black out.
he would destroy his brain on the inner walls of his skull (that's why football helmets don't work to protect the brain from blunt force)
All his organs would turn into human juice
what he is saying is that iron man never goes straight super fast he is always turning flipping around stopping shooting etc. so constant acceleration and deceleration lead to him not being able to safely move very fast
Wouldn't the force applied be divided by the three contact points. So Batmans bones wouldn't break.
WHAT IF black panther were to do the super hero landing what will break seeing as his suite will absorb momentum
Michiel Van Der Merwd Well it cant absorb all force, otherwise he wouldn’t be walking all that well, or punching things. Or if it does every other step he took would be twice as strong. Actually, that would be quite cool. Just seeing him trying to do mundane tasks would be interesting.
Michiel Van Der Merwd we need to upvote this so it can get into his after show.i would like him talking about this.
It will absorb the force, but not stop momentum; as mentioned in prior Because Sciences.
So the biggest threat is neck injury, very very severe neck injury.
You ever fallen on to something soft and still felt slightly winded even though it didnt hurt? Same sort of thing. So he would come to a dead stop and depending on the height it could cause any number of injuries. The suit would be ok though so his successor doesnt have to worry.
Bones may be fine due to reduced impact, but the squishy bits still have to decelerate. The suit only absorbs energy at the suit, so all of his internal organs wouldn't have their energy reduced until they impacted the suit. He would be paste inside the suit, depending on how far he fell. Paste with intact bones mixed in.
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Kyle: the egg if famous for...
Me: being delicious!
Kyle: it’s strength and fragility
Me: oh, I guess that too.
Seriously, so many things.
Iron Man wouldn't free fall. He would slow his decent like a Falcon 9 rocket. Also, being clad in a metal power suit would distribute the impact around him, rather than just on the points on which he landed.
Batman hitting a car wouldn't receive 100% of the force. The car crumpling, like crumple zones we use to mitigate crashes injuring people, would reduce the impact on him. Not to mention his suit no doubt has some impact dampening features.
Bending your legs when you land does not only extend the time of impact. It also distributes the force into you very elastic muscle tissues, which are applying a gradually greater resistance to that impact.
You assume a SHL impact would be focused on the knee. I propose that in reality you are actually increasing the surface area of impact in that pose. There are at least 4 points of impact, a foot, a knee, 5 toes, and a fist. While knees are made of bone, the knee cap is cartilage and has some nice squishy properties to it.
Your final point is correct. Normal humans shouldn't perform a SHL.
Well, when batman lands on the van the van bent meaning thant the van took some amount of force away from batman and the bending if the van also makes the stoppage time larger and lowering the acceleration and by that the force but i think you took that in to consideration when timing his stop
Abdallah Semaan I thought the same.
THANKYOU. I do a series on my channel where I do parkour in superhero costumes and in the One Punch Man episode I joked that superhero landings are horrible not only on your body, but also if you are wearing a cape, the cape falls to cover your head. So many people told me in the comments that superhero landings are fine. I WAS RIGHT
Normally I'd be like... LAME SELF PROMOTION! But now I'm checking out your channel so...
Ha, sorry. Didn't mean it to be too self promotey, just had to get that off my chest. Had so many arguments with people.
I am a civil engineer, and also a martial artist. I know people at my old dojo who were chosen as extras for horror movies specifically because they know how to fall. The first part of what you said, about landing on your feet and slowly crumpling to spread out the impact time, is dead on. However, when you plant you feet you want to give yourself a little bit of forward or backward moment, and roll to end up with the final landing on your back. This serves to spread the final impact force across your entire body, rather than just your legs. This helps ensure that the resultant stress across any individual member in your body is not enough to cause damage. However, you need to have a lot of experience doing this on the mat before you try it in real life, as there is a real risk of landing wrong and breaking your neck.
Even a man with the most powerful healing factor in history hurt himself doing it.
Just Some Guy with a Mustache Because he has a healing factor of course he’ll get hurt
ItsYourBoyMilk he can still feel pain
Jakiyree Fuller Gaming Basically
Ultimate Killer456 lol
Not the most powerful hf in history
In parkour you bend your legs, arms, and do a shoulder roll, which spreads out the impact across your back and converts donwards energy to forwards landing. Also the Batman picture in your video looks like he's not actually on his knee, that landing looks fine.
I accidently did a Superhero landing once.
Was doing some rappelling training in the Guard.
I went over the edge and hanging on like normal, looked over my shoulder and my Belay-man was goofing off.
Turned back around and I just messed up and let go and fell straight to the ground and did a Superhero landing. (1 story luckily).
I have a bad knee to this day.
Dark Zero Some of the coolness is lost if after the landing he clutches his knee, goes into fetal position and cries like a baby.
Trey Lee should have rolled
Actually I got up called my belay-man a derp and went back to training.
I wasn't in incredible pain until I was back home so its all cool. :^)
My question on watching the rock climbing gym landings:
Is it him, or is it Pantene?
Pantene breaks my hair! I wouldn't recommend it even if you have the conditioner.
I recommend Elvive. The shampoo doesn't break my hair, the drying is milder, and the conditioner does separate out the hair well. Use it in palm quantities and pat it down your hair before you massage.
can you prove flat earthers wrong and do an episode called: "why you do not want the earth to be flat." your science and knowledge can prove gravity exists, and that if we were a flat earth, we'd have no night time and you can show just how different the world would be if was only day according to flat earthers. things would die out. then they make an excuse as to... oh the sun just turns off. is it just me or dose that sound scientifically and physically impossible?
please de-bunk the flat earth belief once and for all, i believe you are the only one who can do so.
Angel Ky. Can anyone prove that the earth spins?I challenge anyone to take a helicopter and hover above the earth 1000 ft in one postion and take a video showing the surface of the earth moving.
Joe Mannix if you jump in the air, does everything go forwards? No.
Iz Thats right it doesnt because the earth doesnt spin.
Easily found the worlds top Physicist here. NASA's callin on u fam
Joe Mannix You are joking, right?
Of course you don't see it spin... because you are being pulled along with it. #GravityRulesSupreme
A follow-up video for this could be a Parkour video. When they land, they roll and flip to scrub off as much momentum as possible.
My question is for those heroes who can take the forces involved does the super hero landing help them stop better than just hitting on two feet. I figure other than looking cool they are trying to stop in a stable way and avoid rolling forward which they don't want to do as the landing impact is not their problem. Another way hero's who break the ground instead of themselves when landing is they just hit feet first stiff legs, I always thought they should end up feet embedded in the ground doing that more often. So if your a hero who can take the impact and do not worry about damage to your self what is the best way to land and be ready to fight?
Batman is supposed to be a normal human but the often forget that at times.
I've been waiting to say this: the Yolk's on you.
*Stop*
oh no! you got it in my hair!
Remember when Rhodey went into free fall and smashed his spine?
The MCU acknowledges there’s high tech wonkery in the suits that eliminates the force of impact.
Problem with that is the suit wasn't even powered on. He should have been smashed into a bloody pulp when he hit the ground.
I feel like going to a super hero movie with you would be torture...
Michael Hyde I know all the fans would be freaking out cause Thor would be there!
In The Dark Knight Bats lands on a car, stopping it dead in its tracks (somehow). But how would the situation change if the car kept on being in motion after the impact? Would that make the landing less knee-breaking?
And, since we're on this topic: the roof visibly bends under Bruceman's weight, which, I would assume, not only prolongs the impact, but also absorbs a good portion of its energy. It isn't really comparable to doing the same kind of landing on concrete, but probably still explains why Batwayne is limping in Dark Knight Rises.
Kyle looks like the perfect person to be in a show about Thors childhood that takes a comedic standpoint.
If this man was my science teacher, I would know I'm headed to harvord