Wouldn't 9000kg key still be quite safe. Such small edge inside stone would be really hard to move. Even with machines that can lift more than 9000kg. Also superman doing a guy thing with numbers makes sure noone really knows what they would need to move the key. What machine would you use to grab a tiny 9000kg key from stone and accurately manipulate it into keyhole.
You know what? Go ahead and make a key that weighs 25 lbs and try to pick it up. I bet it would be crazy hard. First your fingernail would have to wedge under it and then you have to pick it up with only your nail in order to get your finger under it. Don’t think it would be hard? Go ahead and grab a 25 lb weight from the gym and pick it up with your fingernails
I think I have another way ..... Well it's quiet simple ... The key is kept under the doormat on the ground right? So why couldn't u use some clay to take the imprint of the key and make another spare key from normal metal?...... Hope you read this Kyle ....
Great episode Kyle. If (as Philip suggested) superman is trolling Lois and actually running an electromagnet on a steel key, we can do numbers on the magnet strength needed. Assuming your key is around 2mm thick, I take it the surface area was 4.5 cm2, or 0.00045 m2. The High Field Lab's 100 tesla magnet is powered by a 1200 megajoule generator, and that would produce around 1.79 million newtons on your key's area, or lift 182703 kg. That's big, but not big enough. Superman would need a 5275 tesla magnet to get the 4.9 billion newtons he's describing. A fridge magnet is 0.01 tesla. I did use an online calculator for this F = (D^2 × A) ÷ (8π × 10^-7), where D is the magnetic flux, and A is the area, but I'm still hoping I can get points for initiative.
@@Lucian_Andries Actually, you're the stupid one. He knew he was replying under someone else's comment because he even referred to OP's comment and name. He just directed his comment to Kyle in the likely chance Kyle sees this comment thread since it is one of the top comments anyway. Think before you speak next time, bucko.
If it were a regular steel key being held down by a super magnet, wouldn't it deform or even break when Superman picked it up? He's not applying equal force across the entire surface of the key when lifting it, so there's going to be some intense torque between where he lifts the key and the much thinner part with all the delicate teeth for the tumbler. Then again this is a world where catching a falling plane actually stops it instead of punching a Superman-shaped hole through it. That being said, if it were a regular key, that means the lock would also have to be a normal lock, thus vulnerable to a modest lockpick... or if the person breaking in wants to overthink things, they could literally just take a photo of the key on the floor, send the image to someone with a CNC router, and mill out a duplicate key. The hyper-dense key's weight wouldn't be the only security feature, rather its density allows it to withstand the forces Superman would be applying to shove the key into the keyhole, to move the tumbler's super springs (which would otherwise flatten the teeth of a regular steel key), and the torque applied when twisting the key to turn the super lock.
@@blarghmcblarghson1903 If it were a regular steel key then wouldn't the sheer force being applied to it from the magnet be enough to basically disintegrate it as it's lying on the ground anyway? Since, as you said, the key doesn't have uniform mass across its entire body.
Given it is just a simple key, you probably can just make a copy of it with regular metal and unlock the fortress. Unless of course the lock itself is made in a way that you need to apply an insane amount of force to turn.
or maybe it unlocks with some kind of a harmonic frequency mechanism, since its a crystal-ly place and stuff. Therefore needing the same exact material to craft another one.
Does it ever state what the door/lock is made from? If not and the key’s weigh is the only “safety feature”, then you could just go through the door. Or pick the lock. The key does not look that advanced I would think that would somewhat limit the “advancedness” of the lock.
I was thinking the same thing. It's like in that other cartoon where it is showing him holding up that machine pressing down on him 9000 trillion tons or something stupid I said in comments something like "That is one impressive durable floor"
@@katieell4084 Best option would be to make it weightless on Earth, and allow any person to try to move it from it's stationary position. Why weightless ? Because packing that kind of mass into such space requires Dwarf/Neutron Star levels of Gravity, and it would probably be bad, if a Neutron-star like object appear suddenly this close to Earth :D Because of ^that, a key that heavy would probably need a bubble of forcefield surrouding it (that also negates Gravity from both it's sides), so that compressed mass of the key couldn't "spill out", and it's internal gravity wouldn't affect Earth/Solar system in a bad way.
Darjaboo It’s the same animated movie All-Star Superman, and it was actually 200 quintillion tons on the Moon, which still doesn’t make sense because the Moon weighs 80 quintillion tons.
10:17 I have a theory. What if that 4 micrometer neutron speck wasn’t the actual key, but was just a single part of the key. Like the actual key is a regular house key, but inside the handle for the key is a pressurized chamber where that 4 micrometer neutron speck resides, just to give the key that extra weight.
Neutron star material encased in something else? That makes a lot of sense. The surrounding material keeps it manageable, the neutron star material makes it heavy.
Alec Smith having it and using it is two separate matters, most versions basically say Krypton was allowed to be destroyed either through ineptitude of some conspiracy. At the least, they had the means to escape.
Yeah keeping neutron matter the size of a key stable is not the same as keeping the core of your planet from slowly transmuting into Uranium then exploding as it reaches critical mass, exploding from some long acting result of a doomsday weapon they thought they had turned off in time, or keeping your star from going Supernova to cover only a few of the ways it bit the dust.
you cand of have to explain why they can do one and not the other! i mean, the key isn't just contained, whatever is holding it toghether is in the key; swuezed in along with the 500 000 000tones of material the key is made of!
@@ntigdona7487 It might just be some very unusual technology like something that locks degeneracy pressure in place or alters it in some other quantum way.
Surely it would punch through the floor. Like punching shear stress. By exceeding the tensile strength of the stone below it through the effects of gravity on the mass over such a small surface area. That's my bet as I start the video *Edit* Smart boy Kyle addressed it at the end of the video :-).
You're forgetting that Supes could just have created a key with a core of neutron star material encased in white dwarf material and the whole thing plated in the most powerful element in any fictional universe: Handwavium.
It was made of impossitanium😂. Or nuclear pasta 10 billion ti- wait I mean it's 10B times stronger than steel and inside a neutron star so I guess it's gotta be heavy but it will stil explode because. BECAUSE SCIENCE.
Kyle is the most OP character ever. The void will seemingly supply him with any superpower ever conceived of and what does he do with these powers? For neato scene transitions.
Alternatively you could Have flash run through (phase?) the walls Find a window Superman probably uses to fly out of and just jump in Or ask Batman, because he has a plan for everything
Not so simple with Flash. The fortress is made of crystal, so I would imagine that has one additional layer of security: since crystals can be made to vibrate, the fortress itself can. And if the fortress vibrates at the right frequency, any speedster trying to phase through would be shredded to bits.
@@ravenwraith1017 if the flash was really careful and vibrated at a certain frequency where he could go through, he could do it, the real problem would be if the crystals it was made of were really dense, they probably would be so its not easy to just break in, so the flash would have trouble vibrating through it cause the atoms are to close together to let his through, kinda like the block in season 5 of the flash.
well the key looks like it's just a regularly shaped house key, so if you really wanted to get in superman's fort then you can just pick the lock. Unless the tumblers in the lock were also super dense and heavy which he did not state. maybe you can just tunnel in or if it's a door that opens inward and if there's a gap on the side you could just use a credit card. if there's a gap under or over the door then you could use some sturdy wire if the door has a handle and not a knob. or you know... boom tubes... but perhaps superman's best security system is himself since he can tune-in and hear everything in the world anyway and hear you trying to get into his house.
@@duel2edge Key most-likely has scorched QR engravings on it that are scanned. Good luck replicating molecular/atomic precision of engravings that Superman’s heat vision is capable of. And even if you can replicate something beyond the limits of human science, good luck flipping the key to the other side to copy the rest of the engravings…
I wish Kyle had done the pressure calculation of the key on the ground (where it’s hidden) and calculated how far into the earths core it would penetrate due to the immense pressure.
"This is the lockpicking lawyer, and today we take a look at Superman's fortress of solitude. I think that this is the worst fortress a superhero can possibly have, and I show you exactly why." 2:48 minutes
Don’t forget that our lowly human technology can cut a duplicate key from a photo of a key. So no need to lift his key at all, just snap a few pics and get a duplicate made. Unless he also has a magic lock too, though it looks like a standard key.
Or Kryptonian tech so that the lock is so fine and intricate that any small imperfections from a counterfeit key wouldn't be able to work. But I'm just guessing since it wasn't explained much in the story
Kiha Akui To support the key in the way you say, the lock as to be made out of the same material. To support the lock, the door also has to be out if similar material and so on and so on. Imagine the gravitational anomaly supermans fortress produces, if it actually were so. Also, Superman immediately dismisses non human intruders. There are being in the dc universe that are easily able to lift that key. Not to mention what Kyle said about the key being boombastic. The whole house would... On the other hand... ask Batman.
If we follow the logic of Superman, making the key and a lock for it in the first place is way to much effort. I think simple solutions are the best, just make a door of this stuff, he would be the only one who can move it anyway. It would have also much more volume, so the material does not need to be as dense. Tough i cannot imagine any kind of hinge that could hold it. I just imagine it as a kind of trap door on top of the entrance. Due to the bigger surface area of the door you might also avoid it sinking into the ground, depending on the exact size and density.
I agree, to use a key that heavy you would need quite a large lock not to mention a spectacularly heavier door that only Superman could move. If you have such a door, why bother locking it ?
I think superman meant dwarf star alloy wich i'm pretty sure is a fictional metal in the dcu which is the most dense material in the world. It was used to power the atoms suit.
@Over Opinionated Bogan alloy is not a light metal, alloy is a combination of metals that doesn't have a fixed density since an alloy can consist of all types of metals
Yeah but even if that is the case, he physically cant have a key made of that material. It would explode if he removed it from the gravity well of the star.
So how does Superman pick a flower then? Or put his glasses on? Or close the door to the phone booth? If he can't figure out human levels of force needed to do things he'd not be able to do anything that he does in the comics. On top of that, no. If I asked you how much my dog weighed and handed him to you (chihuahua), you'd be able to guess within a 100% margin of error, right? It'd make no sense to think that such a tiny dog would weigh more than 20 lbs, especially considering he's only 10. Superman being that far off would be like you picking up my dog and saying it weighed roughly 250 tons. If Superman can't know the difference between 10 lbs and 250 tons, do you want him knocking on your door? God forbid he touches Lois. He might rip her in half.
@@BobBobson To be fair, I can press on keys gently, but I don't know how much force I am pressing on them with. I couldn't quantify that without practice. There's a difference between being able to distinguish between weights, and being able to regulate the force you apply to non-destructive levels. Of course, he'd likely be able to be more accurate since he'd have spent much time working on those skills to be able to pass as human more easily, so your point does still stand.
So, if an object the size of a key weighed half a million pounds and, due to Kryptonian technology was a stable solid, wouldn't it just fall through the ground due to its relative density? Even more so if it were made of some sort of stablized neutronium- compared to the level of density in a neutron star, solid rock would practically be a vacuum.
I keep forgetting to look into it, but I think "relative mass" has something to do with it? There's a certain point where the dimensions and mass of something don't have more of an effect than something of similar dimensions with less mass, like having a 60lb kid jumping on a bed wouldn't do as much damage to the bed as a 30lb bowling ball droppd from the same height? With the weirdness of how water works, it may be even be diminished because the molecules expand as they get colder, so they can handle more as it gets colder over a wider area? Also, since the mass wouldn't necessarily sink in the snow when its momentum downward due to gravity is reduced enough to render it "at rest". I don't think I'm making sense - I'm super-tired and my thoughts are all jumble-y... :P
@@forrenz Yeah, IIRC, it's why craters stop being a certain depth after a certain point, no matter how big or fast the meteor that caused it was. The question then is if this principle applied to a very small but super dense material being left on a surface for extended periods of time.
What if the key is partially neutron star material, and is surrounded by some sci-fi material (of significantly lower density) to keep it stable? Using a hybrid of materials allows for the mass Superman gives to be accurate, while still being at least partially made of neutron star.
Tell me this magic material that holds TSAR BOMBA in a chamber the size of a key at this point it can never be physics just some writer not having a single inkling of reality.
Kyle (I love the show, btw), could the key be an alloy? So, for it to be made of neutron star matter, it would be a thousand times thinner than a regular key. Ten times thinner than plastic wrap (for salad and stuff). . What if Superman made an alloy of neutron star and some other material? Sure, it sounds like you would still have a lot of neutron star matter, but in steel, only 1 or 2% is carbon. So, if we used the same for this alloy, it would only need to be 0.1% neutron star matter. That way, it can weigh as much as he says, and still have the normal shape of a key. As for why he would call it star matter instead of star matter alloy, well, often alloys are called by the name of the material that attributes to it its main characteristics, such as steel is sometimes called iron, and titanium and tungsten alloys are often just called titanium and tungsten. I'm glad to see how much this show has grown and improved, and am looking firward to see where it goes in 2019.
Alloy is rather specific term. I think you meant dispersing the "neutron star material" inside molten steel and you have an "alloy" of sorts. I'll cover that in a second. But first let's think you just put a thin strip of it inside - just for weight, the rest of the key is not going to withstand both in tensile strength, as well as in gravitational forces. You'd have to disperse material, over Very Large KEY - the one at least like in the comic (that very big KEY, that makes superman look like Scrooge McDuck). Or like 100 times Larger. And specifically built to withstand stupid amount of forces (it would be that big, that if superman held it perpendicular to the surface it would snap - from the weight of steel alone), because if you try to pick it up, you'll pick only very tiny bit of that HEAVY KEY, because the rest is so heavy it would snap, from the forces of Gravity vs. you trying to pick it up - try picking up 500.000.000 kg of steel. You'd need approx. 5 GN of force to do that, and IDK if ANY material could withstand it. I could go like that for hours. The simplest answer is of course the real answer - You cannot take anything from neutron star without it snapping back into explosion of matter. But other assumptions make hilarious scenarios, my favorite - Obviously if he could withstand the pressure of gravitational pull of neutron star, he could hold part of it in his hand and keep on pressing, so it would remain the neutron star material (it makes me wonder from what is Superman built from? Since it definitely is not Protons and Neutrons in any configuration - he couldn't withstand the neutron star if he was made of normal matter no matter how tough). But if he picked, let's say amount of equivalent to small stone - so he could keep on pressing the material, it would be about 20 cm3. So if he got distracted for a second, while still keeping his fist closed and "safe", the gravitational pull, would make him punch himself in a face, with something of a mass of big island (or small continent). Not to mention, bringing it to earth, where upon being couple hundred feet from the ground he would get smacked by planet earth, or at least anything, that is not sticking very hard to it, like planes, houses, oceans, people, whales, People of Wales, and Earth itself, although it would not survive it, since being millimeters from Earth, it would start to pull earth apart (now that I think of it, maybe not - the mass of such an object would be probably around that the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs), even if not if it fell (and somehow didn't explode) it would impact the earth with such a force, that from tossing that to Supergirl - if she didn't catch it, would probably make enough debris and dust to bock the sun allover the world for couple of months. Also things like tides, and tidal forces etc. Maybe it was a stretch (I was trying to compare it to objects in the solar system, and this "neutron rock" came to only about 1x10^14 kg, so that's about 5 km radius moon - still something to be afraid of if dropped), but it was fun. Sorry for a long post, but Man - you gave me some crazy ideas ;) Thanks, and have a lovely afternoon.
Isn't the problem with it being an alloy that they require atomic bonds? In neutron star "material" there are no bonds, only gravity acting like a pressure-cooker. Additional sci-fi tech or explanations (such as the DC universe having 52 earths or additional fundamental forces) is the only way to make that specific key explicable.
@@mikelenz4000 Yes, that's why I also wrote it as an "alloy" of sorts. Since you would be making a "neutron stardust", drop it into small amount of let's say molten steel, then put it into the shape, and quickly quench it. It is the closest thing to an actual alloy, that would be possible "IF" you could make "neutron stardust" somehow not to explode.
I was thinking something similar. So, the key is super heavy. Is the lock and door made of something super heavy? Could i, perhaps, make a wax mould of one side of the key and use it to make a duplicate that is not so heavy? If the lock, door, and exteriors are not also somehow special having a stupidly heavy key is not a fool-proof plan.
Kyle, what happened to your markers that they weigh as much as a house cat? Is it the void gravity doing that? If your markers weigh as much as mine do, that would mean the gravity in the void is 267 times as strong; 2616 m s^-2. A house cat then weighs the same as a small walrus does on earth.
@@becausescience Yamcha sure almost died when he tried Vegeta's settings. If he hadn't gotten to the button in time he'd have become a Yamcha crater again just like when in the Saiyajin Saga. Makes me think perhaps the Briefs should've had the deactivation button on the floor just in case.
If the key was 9000kg wouldn't that have the same impact on Lois? So he could lie to her about the weight so she reports its weight and no one brings a crane down to lift it. Edit: changed to kilograms. My fault. Point still stands.
9000lbs are not even half of 9000kg, in fact they're 4082.331kg... that's the difference you're making... it's the difference between a truck and a van...
Yes, but he's Superman, so he's supposed to be honorable and all that and not lie about things of this sort to the love of his life. Unless he really does do that sneaky brain surgery on unsuspecting people so that they can't recognize him...
Question for you Kyle: If Superman's key did weigh half a billion tons, would the surface of the earth even be able to support it? Wouldn't it sink into the earth when he laid it down, and not just a few millimeters? Assuming it would sink, imagine if he dropped it.
@@jorgerincon6874 There's not enough mass in it to noticeably change Earth's gravitational field at a macroscopic level, although there would be measurable local distortion. But it would sink right through the planet like the Earth were made of air, carving out a little key-sized hole as it oscillated back and forth. This would become superheated due to compression, and so it would leave a glowing hot trail of liquefied rock in its wake. Of course, we're assuming it doesn't instantly explode due to the loss of gravitational pressure required to maintain the degenerate state of its matter.
Can't the core of the key be neutron star dense for the weight and then encased in other material to make it big enough to hold? No one said the key has to be only one type of material. Then use the science for creating artificial gravity around Thor's hammer to contain the material of the neutron start within the key.
Given the weight of the neutron star core key, there is no material that could house it that wouldn't be obliterated once the key was laid on the ground. Assuming, of course, we're using known materials. It's possible that a shell was crafted from some material from another planet Superman has encountered over the years.
@@davidmatthews2773 I know this is layering silly on silly, but hey what else is this channel for? Get the star core, use the science of Asgard to keep the gravity around the key core stable so it doesn't explode outward, suspend the core magnetically (not sure if that would play well with the magnet warping gravity of the star's density but...) maby something like talked about in the light saber episodes, and then, once you have your core stable and not interacting with anything, put a handle on it. Probably bigger than a house key at this point but also not unwieldy.
I had a similar idea to this but instead it deals with plating a white dwarf key with neutron star material. Kinda like how pennies are mostly zinc but plated in copper. My comment goes into more detail, check it out.
Based on Kyle's video about Magneto pulling the iron from someone's blood, the intensity of the magnetic field needed to suspend the core would likely kill the person trying to pick it up. As far as covering the neutron star core in white dwarf material, wouldn't the weight of the core compress the shell into neutron star densities once it was set down given that white dwarfs compress down into neutron stars?
Here's a question. If the key does indeed weigh that much, and considering it's small size, would we have anything that we could effectively attach to the key to lift it? Without it breaking?
Yeah I think every nerd in here wanted generally to see if it was a possibility. But the answer is straight up no. If Clark Kent had knowledge of a dwarf star that we do not know of yet, or incidents of something that was created in between a dwarf star turning into a neutron star that became solid. The answer would simply be that we would not be able to pick it up..... Or at the very least, it would create a hole in the ground, or people would be able to copy the key and just enter
TBH, the entire episode I was wondering if Thor could pick up the key. Probably doesn't matter, though, because he'd just hit the lock with his hammer.
I prefer the version where the key is actually the sign that says “fortress of solitude” and the teeth are under the ground. You can’t use it unless you actually pick the entire sign up, fly it to the top of the door, and then turn it.
The kryptonian tech that keeps the key from exploding, could change its density. either the white dwarf material is compressed into a much smaller space making it have a million tons, or only a very small part of the key is made of neutron star material. the fact that Lois' hand doesn't melt when she tries to pick it up id go for the latter.
Yeah I am not the only one who got stuck on this... but couldn’t that key just be pressed on soap bar or something and made a lighter copy to open the door? Howabout just regular lockpicking? Or is the lock is made out of something super heavy too that needs super sturdy material to operate?
If the key has half a million tons of mass, then logically the door and the tumblers in the lock would have to have the mass and strength to withstand both the weight of the key and the force required to turn the key. So no you would not be able to pick the lock.
Well the door and lock have to be reinforced to keep the door & lock from collapsing as soon as someone puts the super heavy key into it. That key would kind of shred a normal lock with it's toughness even if superman didn't let go of it, I think.
The earth weighs 5.972 × 10^24 kg. Superman claims to have a key that weighs 5,000,000,000,000 kg, in one spot on earth at all times. Shouldn't picking up this key have an effect on the earths movement?
If we run some numbers we can see how much that really is. First, you've written out 5 trillion kg, which is 5 billion metric tons. Superman states the key is half a million tons so that's "just" 500 million kg (500,000,000). As a percentage of the Earth's mass that's way, way, way.... way, way less than 1%. It's around 8.372404554588077695914266577361e-18 % of the Earth's mass. Even if the key were 5 billion (5,000,000,000) tons the exponent only goes down to -14 instead of -18, still a very very very small percentage of the Earth's mass. A spec of dust (weighing roughly 0.00000000753 kg) landing on a person weighing 84 kg (185 lbs) would have more of an impact on the person's motion/movement than Superman moving the key around, or even dropping it, on the Earth. Edit: corrected my math.
what if it was neutron star in one part of it, and the rest was a shell of kryptonian technology to maintain volume, so if the part you hold just had a bead of neutron star in it Also, what would the key do to the ground around it, surely that kind of mass cant just sit on the snow or ice? is ice strong enough for it to disperse across an area? or would it just crack and the key would sink into the ice? and how far would it sink?
Or a Neutronic material core with a shell of White Dwarf star material? All you have to do to get a mass in between is to combine the heavier and lighter materials into one object, after all. Of course, such an object WOULD almost certainly fall through the ground, unless the ground under it was unnaturally hard. Which, if Superman can make keys out of star material, doesn't seem like much of a stretch.
@Ken Harris 1: DC isn't Disney, and 2: Dwarf Star isn't a metal in Marvel, Mjolnir was made out of Uru metal, and was forged in a dying star by the giant dwarfs, they aren't DC.
With all that Kryptonian tech around Superman should've made DNA scanner that opens the door for him. Only Kryptonians could enter it, especially Superman...
That's exactly what I thought, but I think it would have to open just to Superman, not for any Kryptonian. I think it would work very much better than this impossible key.
Didn't really matter in the end, Kryptonians eventually did come to earth and took it over because unlike super man they were evil, and simply lifted the key to get inside. That scanner idea is terrible because most Kryptonians turn out to be bad guys at some point or brainwashed, even Superman has and Lex Lurthor has even been able to create clones of Super Man through getting his DNA so even if you specified in making the Scanner specifically look for only him, there is still a pretty big chance some one could break in. Though for a normal person you could just.... get a mold for the key and come back? Unless you need inhuman strength to turn the lock as well, that key doesn't really matter at all.
YOU COULD BREAK IN .... The key is kept on the ground right ? .. one could use a soap or modelling clay to take an imprint of the key and you could make a spare key from it .. and use that to break in
Well you just have to lockpick his door since it's a classic key.... So forget picking the key up and straight up lockpick it, hence ridiculing superman further .
Was thinking the same the second I see the key... Also, as you have access to the key, you can copy it easily without having to pick it up, so it will even be easier than lockpicking
You're assuming the tumblers inside the otherwise-ordinary lock don't take ludicrous amounts of force to move them, and that they wouldn't be resistant enough to require insanely-dense material to even hold up under the kind of torque required to move them. That said, there are other entities on Earth with super strength, so... like... any of them could just go "don't care have super strength too" and pick the key up and use it.
Even if you use something to contain the material inside the key, when superman holds it by the tip, the torque of 500000 tons would probably make it bend! And if you use neutron star material like you said at the end, would the floor even be able to hold it? I mean, it would probably break right through solid rock!
Hey, Kyle while metal crafting smiths can dense metal together creating areas with 2 or 3 times the density of the original material by hammering it. What if let's say Superman got a huge chunk of White Dwarf star material and via similar methods he compressed it to from his key (plus with the help of some cool Kryptonian technology)
Would the key with the neutron star mass (if maintained in size with kryptonian technology) plunge straight into the Earth's core or can the ground be dense/thick enough to stop it?
@@11doublett Supposing the bullet would be shot by something. A gun would be much lighter than its ammos and would probably recoil without moving the bullet (if it doesn't just go right through the clip). Who is the author btw?
Considering he has crushed coal into diamonds, could he take the dwarf star material and forcibly compress into a key and use kryptonian tech to maintain that form.
CRISPR, while storing his original genetic code to rewrite him back to normal within the Matrix. And some sort of alien tech to maintain his constitution (shapeshifting is painful, probably) and also a chrono-accelerator to make the reaction and transformation happen in a fraction of a second. Which in and of itself has problems with power management.
Quantum mechanics. Using the genetic samples stored in the Omnitrix, it increases the likelyhood of a sudden random transformation of his body from human to one of the aliens in the Omnitrix from being almost zero to being an actuality. Like with how Kyle Hill explains "phasing" but instead of it causing molecules to appear on the other side of other molecules, it makes it more likely for his DNA to match the DNA samples in the Omnitrix.
Nero Narcotic Nope, non stellar mass black holes don’t work like that. It’s actually hugely difficult to get matter into such a hole. It could drop straight through your body from head to foot and likely never touch any of your atoms.
@@DrewLSsix actually he was referring to the fact that if you compact neutron star material further it forms a black hole. there fore if a key is bent it by definition compresses the material and forms a black hole.
@@Ariaelyne Maybe, maybe not, if the key bent in multiple places in the same inciKent it could cause a chain reaction of black holes that then consume the Earth, right?
Hey, Kyle. I really love your show and i really wanted to get to footnotes, sooo. I have seen that people, with just photos of keys can create amazing replicas of them, that are good enough to unlock the doors the keys are from. And the key in superman's hand seems pretty generic, so someone with ill intent could in theory create a key and either 3d print it or machine it from metal to get in the fortress without picking up the key. Of course. This disregards maybe the key having specific properties that let you unlock. Maybe the lock is made from the same material and has some sory of spring where you have to be super strong to turn the key even if it is in, thus making that key the only possible to be put in the keyhole, making every other material shatter before it managed to unlock the door.
that may not work looking at how "dense" the key material is, i would assume that the lock mechanism would be of similar strength and hardness else (due to the hardness) the key itself would crush the little knobs inside the lock as Superman turns the key like running a stone through jelly also (assuming the key fabricating method works) the key "fabricator" would also need a machine that could provide the torque high enough to turn the key to overcome the lock's mechanism inertia to successfully unlock the door. don't mean to troll but just my 2 cents.... cheers....
@@aleech123 That assumes our smart boy was smart enough to do work on the lock mechanism. He couldn't even get the key right. I doubt it. We've seen villains break into his house a couple of times already. Batman, a human, goes in and out of his fortress whenever he wants, with or without permission like it was one of his mansions. I guess the alternative way to get inside besides breaking in is an open secret that only our smart boy doesn't know about.
@@aleech123 I just remembered that Batman has a spare key to our smart boy's fortress. Considering his humanistic strength, your arguments about the lock mechanism are totally debunked and that 3d printed copy of the key idea is totally legit.
@Over Opinionated Bogan I guess that would depend on how far the buildings base goes.When I'm at the front door to my house, I'm standing on concrete, not grass. this also includes the path leading to the front door. If its not on base, then I would 100% agree with you.
If the key has half a million tons of mass, then logically the door and the tumblers in the lock would have to have the mass and strength to withstand both the weight of the key and the force required to turn the key. So no you would not be able to pick the lock.
@@pegdude6125 That is surely a faulty application of logic and science, since the key is used by Superman who is, well, superhumanly abled, and definitely can just insert the key carefully enough and then turn it perfectly around its axis without applying any force on the lock other than just what the turning motion produces, which cannot break the lock unless super fast, because the lock is of course made to accommodate for such a motion.
@@Riwillion Yes but we are talking about if one is able to pick lock the door. Logically speaking he wouldnt have it able to be picklocked, and the way of doing that, plus the way of dealing with the issues I mentioned above would be to make the door as dence in mass as the key. That way there would be no need for superman to be so careful with the key, and would ensure that the only way of opening the door is with that key. My logic is not faulty thank you very much.
Personally, I'd just say it's a key-shaped container vessel storing neutron star material. That lets you pick the weight you want and explains containment. But honestly, it's a key. A supervillain can surely just figure out some way to determine the shape of they key, fabricate one out of ordinary material, and use it to get in.
Really, it's just another example of pointless escalation in comic books. If it's that important to keep the fortress of solitude secure, then it shouldn't be able to be opened without Superman present - creating some key schtick only creates an attack surface for a villain to interact with the fortress, given enough motivation to do so. And really, a villain defeated by the key would just deflect efforts to attack the fortress some other way and create another confrontation altogether focused entirely on a measurement of abilities. There's no actual plot as we're distracted by the semantics, which makes a half-billion-ton key just an extension of the poor writing involved in the first place.
@@AspLode Giving an obvious (apparent) vulnerability for attackers to (try to) exploit can help bolster security - it means you can predict how people are likely to attempt to get in and prepare for that specifically rather than having to defend against all possible attacks equally, and it also buys you additional time to detect the incursion attempt before they move on to something with an actual chance of working...
@@rmsgrey But that doesn't address the fact that a story-interaction between villain and Superman is being offloaded to some proxy which doesn't achieve anything new, because it's Superman's fortress and it represents Superman's abilities, so a villain attacking the fortress tests himself against Superman's abilities. It's just another way for Superman's abilities to leverage itself as an obstacle for the villain. It doesn't enhance the plot, it merely expands Superman which is pointless because Superman already expands in his stories to overcome any and all obstacles. Superman essentially states that the very mechanism by which the fortress can be accessed is limited to those of Superman's abilities, at which point "500 million tons, made out of a dying star's matter" doesn't mean anything more than "Only I can pick up this key". It's the same narrative masturbation which distracts all bad aspects of superhero stories. Going back to what you're saying, a Super-key for a Super-door to a Super-fort made by Superman as a nucleation point for an approaching villain would simply be super-tactics and yet-another-demonstration-of-Superman's-abilities, in this case his ability to out-think his adversaries. It doesn't do anything that the Super-weight of the Super-key already achieves, that is provide a barrier against interaction that is directly connected to Superman's abilities. Now, if the fortress were made by someone else and Superman had no choice but to trust this person's abilities and motivations, and the fortress sheltered something like a humongous cache of kryptonite or some other Superman hamartia, then it would be something substantial. Then it would mean something that he shows Lois the key. As it stands, Lois can't do anything with the information, he could be showing literally anyone the key. Hell, most of the rebuttals offered in the comments to the tune of "it's exclusive Kryptonian technology" to answer both "how does it weigh exactly 500-million-tons" and "what happens if a villain simply copies the shape of the key" further entrenches the fact that it doesn't matter, the whole key scene doesn't matter from a narrative perspective. It's just "Hey guys in case you forgot, Superman is extremely strong."
@@AspLode I suspect part of the reason for the super-heavy house-key is to be a "correction" to the older version where the Fortress had a lock so large that people could walk through it (assuming they survived the various booby traps) and was unlocked by a key disguised as an aircraft marker intended for use as a navigation aid by airplanes in flight that was too big for anyone to lift without heavy equipment. I've not read All-Star Superman, so I've got no chance of commenting on the scene in context, but as a taking someone home to meet the parents and/or giving them a key to your place, showing the juxtaposition of the mundane - a regular (looking) door key under a regular door mat - with the Super - the key being too heavy for most people to lift - as a reflection of Kal El's dual character as Clark Kent and Superman could reflect Kal opening up to Lois and showing her his true identity beneath the masks. It making sense or not as a Super-home security system is secondary, in that reading, to what it says about the characters and their relationship in that moment.
Correct me if I'm wrong but assuming that Superman somehow did manage to make a key using neutron star material if we use the formula for gravitational force the key would exert about 3 N of force on a person 1 meter away from it. Would someone be able to perceive this? And if so, what would that even feel like? Also, great video!
That's right, Kyle didn't go into that. Ignoring the nuclear explosion concept, the object is still dense enough to have a rather noticeable gravitation pull. Even if Sups' did hide it under a welcome mat, people would feel the pull and know where it is.
Hi, Kyle. I'm Joel from Germany. I've got a question that would need knowledge about the new Aquaman movie. If you have seen it, can you explain how Black-Mantas eye-lasers work? Could you make a episode about this.
He said he "crafted" it from dwarf star material. He would still have to cool it so it doesn't mess up the earth at that density to begin with. Plus crafting a key involves condensing it anyway. Using his super strength and super breath he could have just made that from like half a white dwarf star.
Pat Sutherland What does that even mean,you can’t “alloy” neutron star material.The stuff neutron stars are made of can barely be considered normal matter in the first place.This isn’t some common element but neutrons that are on the verge of becoming a black hole.Also let’s assume for a moment that you could alloy these materials,so you are saying he might have alloyed neutrons and electron degenerate matter?It’s not that your question is stupid but more that the question doesn’t even make sense in the first place.
Thickness of Ice can support weight is shown by P = Ah^2 where P is the load, h is the thickness of Ice, and A is a constant for flexural strength, which for ice is about 1. So a half a million tons (1,000,000,000 = 1 h^2) So the ice would need to be 31,622 inches thick at the North Pole where his fortress of solitude rests so the key wouldn’t crack the ice and fall to the bottom of the ocean. Or about a half mile thick. But the Artic Ice is only 2-3 meters thick. So Superman setting that half a million ton key under his door mat would crack the ice and sink the fortress of solitude under the water.
And there are more robust formulas for minimum safe ice thickness that factor in surface area the weight is distributed. But since the normal house key shown is around one square inch give or take, I figured the simple formula would be sufficient.
His fortress doesn’t rest on the ice it grew from the core of the earth and broke ground so the key is actually resting on his fortress outside the entrance but is surrounded by ice and earthly soil.
Not all versions of the Fortress of Solitude were in the north Artic either. But the version depicted in the reference to the heavy key is. Which has several times in various media been shown to have the Artic Ocean running under it. That it has risen up and separated from the growth point to rest in/on the ice.
NinjaBearFilms No he has one in the amazon jungle as recently too and one on the moon since rebirth and on in the South Pole. Same methodology though. The version this video is taking notes from is Grant Morrison’s 12 issue All-Star Superman. It’s the architecture of the structure that is built from its core to support many of his inventions criminals and so forth and for that reason it wouldn’t lie on anything weaker. You wouldn’t build a skyscraper on New York City if it wasn’t for the huge amount of bedrock it has that’s why you see skyscrapers there it would cave in otherwise. So the fortress structure is built from the core. That’s how the fortress is always emerging both in movies and comics. You’re only seeing the tip of it. But its not some floating corkscrew. What ever structural changes is done after is something Superman has done himself. He has a lot of animals extraterrestrial for example so he creates habitats for them so stuff gets changed.
what if the weight of the door (which can substain the wight of the key and its pressure without breaking) is the real security system preventing thieves from entering the fortress of solitude? It should be made of a pretty dense material as well as the key, or at least the lock should, otherwise it could be broken by the key trying to open it.
My thought exactly, unless there's some way the ice could prevent it from doing so. But there's a tiny surface area, and what happens when you have a tiny surface area over ice? Yeah. That's why laying down on ice is better than standing. Yes I know it's not thin ice, but still, with that weight it doesn't matter.
If the fortress is made of ice... Why bother with the door in the first place when you can just melt through a wall with a blowtorch or flamethrower? Also, even if you can't lift the key: seeing it is quite enough since you could make a duplicate of the key from lighter materia by measuring it on the ground. Comic book writers...
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Supergirl, Martian Manhunter, Flash and more should all be able to lift Superman's key.
Wouldn't 9000kg key still be quite safe. Such small edge inside stone would be really hard to move. Even with machines that can lift more than 9000kg. Also superman doing a guy thing with numbers makes sure noone really knows what they would need to move the key. What machine would you use to grab a tiny 9000kg key from stone and accurately manipulate it into keyhole.
Not to mention that if his key was that heavy and that small of an object, it would just fall in a key shaped hole once he sat it down
You know what? Go ahead and make a key that weighs 25 lbs and try to pick it up. I bet it would be crazy hard. First your fingernail would have to wedge under it and then you have to pick it up with only your nail in order to get your finger under it. Don’t think it would be hard? Go ahead and grab a 25 lb weight from the gym and pick it up with your fingernails
I think I have another way ..... Well it's quiet simple ... The key is kept under the doormat on the ground right? So why couldn't u use some clay to take the imprint of the key and make another spare key from normal metal?...... Hope you read this Kyle ....
Maybe Superman is lightly trolling Lois and its just a regular steel key but he places it on a super magnet.
Great episode Kyle. If (as Philip suggested) superman is trolling Lois and actually running an electromagnet on a steel key, we can do numbers on the magnet strength needed.
Assuming your key is around 2mm thick, I take it the surface area was 4.5 cm2, or 0.00045 m2. The High Field Lab's 100 tesla magnet is powered by a 1200 megajoule generator, and that would produce around 1.79 million newtons on your key's area, or lift 182703 kg.
That's big, but not big enough. Superman would need a 5275 tesla magnet to get the 4.9 billion newtons he's describing. A fridge magnet is 0.01 tesla.
I did use an online calculator for this
F = (D^2 × A) ÷ (8π × 10^-7), where D is the magnetic flux, and A is the area, but I'm still hoping I can get points for initiative.
@@Lucian_Andries No need to be so aggressive to @Brian Makepeace!
@@Lucian_Andries Actually, you're the stupid one. He knew he was replying under someone else's comment because he even referred to OP's comment and name. He just directed his comment to Kyle in the likely chance Kyle sees this comment thread since it is one of the top comments anyway. Think before you speak next time, bucko.
If it were a regular steel key being held down by a super magnet, wouldn't it deform or even break when Superman picked it up? He's not applying equal force across the entire surface of the key when lifting it, so there's going to be some intense torque between where he lifts the key and the much thinner part with all the delicate teeth for the tumbler. Then again this is a world where catching a falling plane actually stops it instead of punching a Superman-shaped hole through it.
That being said, if it were a regular key, that means the lock would also have to be a normal lock, thus vulnerable to a modest lockpick... or if the person breaking in wants to overthink things, they could literally just take a photo of the key on the floor, send the image to someone with a CNC router, and mill out a duplicate key. The hyper-dense key's weight wouldn't be the only security feature, rather its density allows it to withstand the forces Superman would be applying to shove the key into the keyhole, to move the tumbler's super springs (which would otherwise flatten the teeth of a regular steel key), and the torque applied when twisting the key to turn the super lock.
@@blarghmcblarghson1903 If it were a regular steel key then wouldn't the sheer force being applied to it from the magnet be enough to basically disintegrate it as it's lying on the ground anyway? Since, as you said, the key doesn't have uniform mass across its entire body.
Given it is just a simple key, you probably can just make a copy of it with regular metal and unlock the fortress.
Unless of course the lock itself is made in a way that you need to apply an insane amount of force to turn.
I think he made the entire door, lock, and key out of the same material.
or maybe it unlocks with some kind of a harmonic frequency mechanism, since its a crystal-ly place and stuff. Therefore needing the same exact material to craft another one.
Does it ever state what the door/lock is made from? If not and the key’s weigh is the only “safety feature”, then you could just go through the door. Or pick the lock. The key does not look that advanced I would think that would somewhat limit the “advancedness” of the lock.
The only way I could imagine that working if the springs behind the pins were insanely strong.
Great now all i can think of is "i wonder if the credit card trick would work?"
I bet the “Lock Picking Lawyer” could pick his lock.
"postive click from 2..."
@@jove3403 click out of 4
3 is sill giving me trouble
First Name Last Name 5 is binding
Probably.
The lock pins maybe made of the same super dense material
wouldnt it just sink through the floor if it weighed as much as 191 thousand titanics? because pressure=force/area?
Or, the earth's real thicc
Your name looks like someone you don't want attacking your base in clash of clans
Could probably get round that if it were placed into a contained field of the same gravity
Probably
Meh just pick the lock it easier then trying to pick up that key
Can't you like, just copy the key?
SlavTurtle every key has different details on it. Can’t exactly copy it if it’s facing down
Sure you can. But the lock is probably just so heavy to turn, a key made from any other material would just break off.
I'm pretty sure a TH-camr did that and it worked
I thought about that too!
@@superslimanoniem4712 i so hope you weren't talking about hes penis :)
Wouldn't a key that heavy just crush the ice under the doormat and fall to the center of the earth?
I was thinking the same thing. It's like in that other cartoon where it is showing him holding up that machine pressing down on him 9000 trillion tons or something stupid I said in comments something like "That is one impressive durable floor"
Well, it seemed to have made an indentation in the floor...
@@katieell4084 Best option would be to make it weightless on Earth, and allow any person to try to move it from it's stationary position. Why weightless ?
Because packing that kind of mass into such space requires Dwarf/Neutron Star levels of Gravity, and it would probably be bad, if a Neutron-star like object appear suddenly this close to Earth :D
Because of ^that, a key that heavy would probably need a bubble of forcefield surrouding it (that also negates Gravity from both it's sides), so that compressed mass of the key couldn't "spill out", and it's internal gravity wouldn't affect Earth/Solar system in a bad way.
Darjaboo It’s the same animated movie All-Star Superman, and it was actually 200 quintillion tons on the Moon, which still doesn’t make sense because the Moon weighs 80 quintillion tons.
I didn't even think of that...
10:17
I have a theory.
What if that 4 micrometer neutron speck wasn’t the actual key, but was just a single part of the key.
Like the actual key is a regular house key, but inside the handle for the key is a pressurized chamber where that 4 micrometer neutron speck resides, just to give the key that extra weight.
Wouldn't said speck fall through the material of the key the instant it's not between Superman's fingers?
Its will have to be covered with kryptonion technology no any other soft material
Good point.
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@@nephicus339 alien tech stuff
Could it be the super thin 4 micrometers key engulfed in gold?
Neutron star material encased in something else? That makes a lot of sense. The surrounding material keeps it manageable, the neutron star material makes it heavy.
Dont forget it would expand like crazy and I'm pretty sure gold is a soft metal.
@@justinray582 Fine, 4 micrometer-thick neutron star material surrounded in thing-squeezing handwavium.
@@justinray582 it would also sink into the ground
Its would be best to say that it is covered by kryptonion technology . Since gold is soft
If Kyrptonian tecnology could keep star material from exploding, there would be mor than five kryptonians.
Alec Smith having it and using it is two separate matters, most versions basically say Krypton was allowed to be destroyed either through ineptitude of some conspiracy. At the least, they had the means to escape.
Yeah keeping neutron matter the size of a key stable is not the same as keeping the core of your planet from slowly transmuting into Uranium then exploding as it reaches critical mass, exploding from some long acting result of a doomsday weapon they thought they had turned off in time, or keeping your star from going Supernova to cover only a few of the ways it bit the dust.
you cand of have to explain why they can do one and not the other! i mean, the key isn't just contained, whatever is holding it toghether is in the key; swuezed in along with the 500 000 000tones of material the key is made of!
@@ntigdona7487 It might just be some very unusual technology like something that locks degeneracy pressure in place or alters it in some other quantum way.
Hahahaha
**sees Thor wearing a Superman costume**
Me: Excuse me wtf?
nice hammer, you got the key bro?
dont think thor could if he tried
You comment something like this every week and it just keeps killing doesn't it? -- kH
@@becausescience I don't know. Because you look like Thor. I like it.
"Range"
Surely it would punch through the floor. Like punching shear stress. By exceeding the tensile strength of the stone below it through the effects of gravity on the mass over such a small surface area.
That's my bet as I start the video
*Edit* Smart boy Kyle addressed it at the end of the video :-).
You're forgetting that Supes could just have created a key with a core of neutron star material encased in white dwarf material and the whole thing plated in the most powerful element in any fictional universe: Handwavium.
Or diamond
@@nosuchthing8 diamond isn't heavy dawg
It was made of UNOBTANIUM! 😂😂
It was made of impossitanium😂. Or nuclear pasta 10 billion ti- wait I mean it's 10B times stronger than steel and inside a neutron star so I guess it's gotta be heavy but it will stil explode because. BECAUSE SCIENCE.
Why does Kyle keep disappearing, and who is that guy with the glasses?
I think the guy with glasses is new
zee9000 must be the intern
and why does he sound like Kyle?
That's Clark Hill, Kyle's secret identity. :)
mspears33 Preposterous
Kyle is the most OP character ever. The void will seemingly supply him with any superpower ever conceived of and what does he do with these powers? For neato scene transitions.
Alternatively you could
Have flash run through (phase?) the walls
Find a window Superman probably uses to fly out of and just jump in
Or ask Batman, because he has a plan for everything
andrew Infante or pick the lock
Not so simple with Flash. The fortress is made of crystal, so I would imagine that has one additional layer of security: since crystals can be made to vibrate, the fortress itself can. And if the fortress vibrates at the right frequency, any speedster trying to phase through would be shredded to bits.
@@ravenwraith1017 if the flash was really careful and vibrated at a certain frequency where he could go through, he could do it, the real problem would be if the crystals it was made of were really dense, they probably would be so its not easy to just break in, so the flash would have trouble vibrating through it cause the atoms are to close together to let his through, kinda like the block in season 5 of the flash.
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@@Lloyd_lyle Wot
11:50 “Superman was trying to sound like a Brainiac”
I see what you did there lol
well the key looks like it's just a regularly shaped house key, so if you really wanted to get in superman's fort then you can just pick the lock. Unless the tumblers in the lock were also super dense and heavy which he did not state.
maybe you can just tunnel in or if it's a door that opens inward and if there's a gap on the side you could just use a credit card.
if there's a gap under or over the door then you could use some sturdy wire if the door has a handle and not a knob.
or you know... boom tubes...
but perhaps superman's best security system is himself since he can tune-in and hear everything in the world anyway and hear you trying to get into his house.
Tunneling in!!! Credit card lol
This isn’t a shed he built with pallet wood.
Why even bother with picks. You have the key, even if you can't lift it, just measure it and make a copy.
@@duel2edge Key most-likely has scorched QR engravings on it that are scanned.
Good luck replicating molecular/atomic precision of engravings that Superman’s heat vision is capable of.
And even if you can replicate something beyond the limits of human science, good luck flipping the key to the other side to copy the rest of the engravings…
The real question is *SHOULD you break into Superman's house?*
Yes.
Ehh he's to much of a boy scout to care I'd think. Batman on the other hand would probably beat the shit out if you
His robots would immediately swarm you
@@kal-eldritch also true lol
Heck yeah, I saw the LEGO Batman movie Superman throws awesome parties.
I wish Kyle had done the pressure calculation of the key on the ground (where it’s hidden) and calculated how far into the earths core it would penetrate due to the immense pressure.
"This is the lockpicking lawyer, and today we take a look at Superman's fortress of solitude. I think that this is the worst fortress a superhero can possibly have, and I show you exactly why."
2:48 minutes
Who was the guy in the glasses?
I dunno, I tried Google but nothing showed up. Anywho, I'm gonna go rob a bank, excuse me. *puts on glasses*
Genius.
um they don't have to identify you to arrest you or shoot you. Better snort some kryptonite to be safe.
I think it's an intern or something. It was kinda weird to just bring in some random guy though.
@@bremensims6086
Looked into it, its this Clark Kent guy
Don’t forget that our lowly human technology can cut a duplicate key from a photo of a key. So no need to lift his key at all, just snap a few pics and get a duplicate made. Unless he also has a magic lock too, though it looks like a standard key.
But the locking mechanism is still geared for a Super-Key to turn it. Your copy would just break.
Kiha Akui Which was not mentioned at all in the video, so the point still stands
Or Kryptonian tech so that the lock is so fine and intricate that any small imperfections from a counterfeit key wouldn't be able to work. But I'm just guessing since it wasn't explained much in the story
Or lock pick
Kiha Akui
To support the key in the way you say, the lock as to be made out of the same material. To support the lock, the door also has to be out if similar material and so on and so on. Imagine the gravitational anomaly supermans fortress produces, if it actually were so.
Also, Superman immediately dismisses non human intruders. There are being in the dc universe that are easily able to lift that key. Not to mention what Kyle said about the key being boombastic. The whole house would...
On the other hand... ask Batman.
If we follow the logic of Superman, making the key and a lock for it in the first place is way to much effort.
I think simple solutions are the best, just make a door of this stuff, he would be the only one who can move it anyway.
It would have also much more volume, so the material does not need to be as dense.
Tough i cannot imagine any kind of hinge that could hold it. I just imagine it as a kind of trap door on top of the entrance.
Due to the bigger surface area of the door you might also avoid it sinking into the ground, depending on the exact size and density.
Or make it a vertical sliding door
Too*
I agree, to use a key that heavy you would need quite a large lock not to mention a spectacularly heavier door that only Superman could move. If you have such a door, why bother locking it ?
Nice job on Superman's symbol. I've been drawing that for 40 years, and I still struggle to get it just right.
I think superman meant dwarf star alloy wich i'm pretty sure is a fictional metal in the dcu which is the most dense material in the world. It was used to power the atoms suit.
Yea that's what I was thinking
@Over Opinionated Bogan alloy is not a light metal, alloy is a combination of metals that doesn't have a fixed density since an alloy can consist of all types of metals
// AsianPersuasian yes exactly
Julian was gonna say the same thing. Well, not as cleverly anyways.
i think that asking superman "how many tons is this thing?" is like asking a human "how many nano-grams is this thing?"
Yeah but even if that is the case, he physically cant have a key made of that material. It would explode if he removed it from the gravity well of the star.
So how does Superman pick a flower then? Or put his glasses on? Or close the door to the phone booth? If he can't figure out human levels of force needed to do things he'd not be able to do anything that he does in the comics.
On top of that, no. If I asked you how much my dog weighed and handed him to you (chihuahua), you'd be able to guess within a 100% margin of error, right? It'd make no sense to think that such a tiny dog would weigh more than 20 lbs, especially considering he's only 10. Superman being that far off would be like you picking up my dog and saying it weighed roughly 250 tons. If Superman can't know the difference between 10 lbs and 250 tons, do you want him knocking on your door? God forbid he touches Lois. He might rip her in half.
@@BobBobson To be fair, I can press on keys gently, but I don't know how much force I am pressing on them with. I couldn't quantify that without practice. There's a difference between being able to distinguish between weights, and being able to regulate the force you apply to non-destructive levels.
Of course, he'd likely be able to be more accurate since he'd have spent much time working on those skills to be able to pass as human more easily, so your point does still stand.
So, if an object the size of a key weighed half a million pounds and, due to Kryptonian technology was a stable solid, wouldn't it just fall through the ground due to its relative density? Even more so if it were made of some sort of stablized neutronium- compared to the level of density in a neutron star, solid rock would practically be a vacuum.
And yet it doesn't even sink down into the snow.
Thats exactly what i thought too.
I keep forgetting to look into it, but I think "relative mass" has something to do with it? There's a certain point where the dimensions and mass of something don't have more of an effect than something of similar dimensions with less mass, like having a 60lb kid jumping on a bed wouldn't do as much damage to the bed as a 30lb bowling ball droppd from the same height? With the weirdness of how water works, it may be even be diminished because the molecules expand as they get colder, so they can handle more as it gets colder over a wider area? Also, since the mass wouldn't necessarily sink in the snow when its momentum downward due to gravity is reduced enough to render it "at rest".
I don't think I'm making sense - I'm super-tired and my thoughts are all jumble-y... :P
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thought of this.
@@forrenz Yeah, IIRC, it's why craters stop being a certain depth after a certain point, no matter how big or fast the meteor that caused it was. The question then is if this principle applied to a very small but super dense material being left on a surface for extended periods of time.
What if the key is partially neutron star material, and is surrounded by some sci-fi material (of significantly lower density) to keep it stable? Using a hybrid of materials allows for the mass Superman gives to be accurate, while still being at least partially made of neutron star.
Tell me this magic material that holds TSAR BOMBA in a chamber the size of a key at this point it can never be physics just some writer not having a single inkling of reality.
Those pesky electron degenerates, always picking fights with gravity.
Kyle (I love the show, btw), could the key be an alloy? So, for it to be made of neutron star matter, it would be a thousand times thinner than a regular key. Ten times thinner than plastic wrap (for salad and stuff).
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What if Superman made an alloy of neutron star and some other material? Sure, it sounds like you would still have a lot of neutron star matter, but in steel, only 1 or 2% is carbon. So, if we used the same for this alloy, it would only need to be 0.1% neutron star matter. That way, it can weigh as much as he says, and still have the normal shape of a key. As for why he would call it star matter instead of star matter alloy, well, often alloys are called by the name of the material that attributes to it its main characteristics, such as steel is sometimes called iron, and titanium and tungsten alloys are often just called titanium and tungsten. I'm glad to see how much this show has grown and improved, and am looking firward to see where it goes in 2019.
Alloy is rather specific term. I think you meant dispersing the "neutron star material" inside molten steel and you have an "alloy" of sorts. I'll cover that in a second. But first let's think you just put a thin strip of it inside - just for weight, the rest of the key is not going to withstand both in tensile strength, as well as in gravitational forces. You'd have to disperse material, over Very Large KEY - the one at least like in the comic (that very big KEY, that makes superman look like Scrooge McDuck). Or like 100 times Larger. And specifically built to withstand stupid amount of forces (it would be that big, that if superman held it perpendicular to the surface it would snap - from the weight of steel alone), because if you try to pick it up, you'll pick only very tiny bit of that HEAVY KEY, because the rest is so heavy it would snap, from the forces of Gravity vs. you trying to pick it up - try picking up 500.000.000 kg of steel. You'd need approx. 5 GN of force to do that, and IDK if ANY material could withstand it.
I could go like that for hours. The simplest answer is of course the real answer - You cannot take anything from neutron star without it snapping back into explosion of matter. But other assumptions make hilarious scenarios, my favorite - Obviously if he could withstand the pressure of gravitational pull of neutron star, he could hold part of it in his hand and keep on pressing, so it would remain the neutron star material (it makes me wonder from what is Superman built from? Since it definitely is not Protons and Neutrons in any configuration - he couldn't withstand the neutron star if he was made of normal matter no matter how tough). But if he picked, let's say amount of equivalent to small stone - so he could keep on pressing the material, it would be about 20 cm3. So if he got distracted for a second, while still keeping his fist closed and "safe", the gravitational pull, would make him punch himself in a face, with something of a mass of big island (or small continent). Not to mention, bringing it to earth, where upon being couple hundred feet from the ground he would get smacked by planet earth, or at least anything, that is not sticking very hard to it, like planes, houses, oceans, people, whales, People of Wales, and Earth itself, although it would not survive it, since being millimeters from Earth, it would start to pull earth apart (now that I think of it, maybe not - the mass of such an object would be probably around that the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs), even if not if it fell (and somehow didn't explode) it would impact the earth with such a force, that from tossing that to Supergirl - if she didn't catch it, would probably make enough debris and dust to bock the sun allover the world for couple of months. Also things like tides, and tidal forces etc.
Maybe it was a stretch (I was trying to compare it to objects in the solar system, and this "neutron rock" came to only about 1x10^14 kg, so that's about 5 km radius moon - still something to be afraid of if dropped), but it was fun. Sorry for a long post, but Man - you gave me some crazy ideas ;) Thanks, and have a lovely afternoon.
Isn't the problem with it being an alloy that they require atomic bonds? In neutron star "material" there are no bonds, only gravity acting like a pressure-cooker. Additional sci-fi tech or explanations (such as the DC universe having 52 earths or additional fundamental forces) is the only way to make that specific key explicable.
@@mikelenz4000 Yes, that's why I also wrote it as an "alloy" of sorts. Since you would be making a "neutron stardust", drop it into small amount of let's say molten steel, then put it into the shape, and quickly quench it. It is the closest thing to an actual alloy, that would be possible "IF" you could make "neutron stardust" somehow not to explode.
@@jannegrey I didn't say the neutron star alloy had to be part steel.
@@mikelenz4000 infusing more neutrons into the atoms, or maybe trapping them between the chemical bonds.
I wonder why he just doesn't make the door super heavy so that only he could move it, then he wouldnt need a key at all.
johnny gonzalez maybe speedsters can phase through it of or it can be broken, weather it's raw strength or fozen to ice
@@yikes313 and key prevents this in which way?
@@yikes313 he got you there
Geni0use One thats what I'm saying, it wont matter if a speedster can just phase through it or Lex making a phase machine or soemthing
I was thinking something similar. So, the key is super heavy. Is the lock and door made of something super heavy? Could i, perhaps, make a wax mould of one side of the key and use it to make a duplicate that is not so heavy? If the lock, door, and exteriors are not also somehow special having a stupidly heavy key is not a fool-proof plan.
Batman getting extremely pissed at you stealing all of his plans:
Kyle, what happened to your markers that they weigh as much as a house cat? Is it the void gravity doing that?
If your markers weigh as much as mine do, that would mean the gravity in the void is 267 times as strong; 2616 m s^-2. A house cat then weighs the same as a small walrus does on earth.
I'm gravity training like DBZ (which would kill you) -- kH
@@becausescience Yamcha sure almost died when he tried Vegeta's settings. If he hadn't gotten to the button in time he'd have become a Yamcha crater again just like when in the Saiyajin Saga. Makes me think perhaps the Briefs should've had the deactivation button on the floor just in case.
aight calm down
Well, unless he's made the tumbler and pins of star stuff.
**picks lock**
This was my (second) thought exactly lol. Right after wondering how the key doesn't smash through the ice and wind up on the seabed.
@@xeroterragoth1866
Seabed? I was thinking centre of the Earth!
Hell, even if the lock couldn't be picked for some reason, the key could easily be copied. It's sitting right there for anyone to look at.
@@oriion1 that's exactly what I was thinking.
@@theguyyouhate20 Maintaining key security is important. Copying is child's play after all.
If the key was 9000kg wouldn't that have the same impact on Lois? So he could lie to her about the weight so she reports its weight and no one brings a crane down to lift it. Edit: changed to kilograms. My fault. Point still stands.
Stop being American. .. Kilograms.......
9000lbs are not even half of 9000kg, in fact they're 4082.331kg... that's the difference you're making... it's the difference between a truck and a van...
Yes, but he's Superman, so he's supposed to be honorable and all that and not lie about things of this sort to the love of his life. Unless he really does do that sneaky brain surgery on unsuspecting people so that they can't recognize him...
Kyle:(talks in space)
Logic: WAIT THATS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!
Can you talk about Ben Ten Science ....
"How does the omnitrix make Ben change forms?" Would be one hell of an episode XD
Seems spicy
Yeah would be fun
Sirdesqwee FN he could maybe talk about some alien biology but I’m not sure how much science is in the omnitrix itself
Cool, brings back memories
Question for you Kyle: If Superman's key did weigh half a billion tons, would the surface of the earth even be able to support it? Wouldn't it sink into the earth when he laid it down, and not just a few millimeters? Assuming it would sink, imagine if he dropped it.
literally would go off like a nuke haha
ripghotihook That key would mess up earths gravity quite bad
@@jorgerincon6874 There's not enough mass in it to noticeably change Earth's gravitational field at a macroscopic level, although there would be measurable local distortion. But it would sink right through the planet like the Earth were made of air, carving out a little key-sized hole as it oscillated back and forth. This would become superheated due to compression, and so it would leave a glowing hot trail of liquefied rock in its wake.
Of course, we're assuming it doesn't instantly explode due to the loss of gravitational pressure required to maintain the degenerate state of its matter.
John Aldrich yeah I realized that I messed up right after o wrote that, I was going to delete it but then I couldn’t find my comment XD
A white dwarf has a high density, a black dwarf has a higher density but Red Dwarf has Cat.
And beef vindaloo, you smeghead ;)
What if it looks like a cat that is really a Midgard serpent. That is a few million pounds.
4:14 you can see the elephant floating in the distance on the top right corner.
At first I thought it was a little spider running through my screen
Can't the core of the key be neutron star dense for the weight and then encased in other material to make it big enough to hold? No one said the key has to be only one type of material.
Then use the science for creating artificial gravity around Thor's hammer to contain the material of the neutron start within the key.
Given the weight of the neutron star core key, there is no material that could house it that wouldn't be obliterated once the key was laid on the ground. Assuming, of course, we're using known materials. It's possible that a shell was crafted from some material from another planet Superman has encountered over the years.
@@davidmatthews2773 I know this is layering silly on silly, but hey what else is this channel for?
Get the star core, use the science of Asgard to keep the gravity around the key core stable so it doesn't explode outward, suspend the core magnetically (not sure if that would play well with the magnet warping gravity of the star's density but...) maby something like talked about in the light saber episodes, and then, once you have your core stable and not interacting with anything, put a handle on it. Probably bigger than a house key at this point but also not unwieldy.
I had a similar idea to this but instead it deals with plating a white dwarf key with neutron star material. Kinda like how pennies are mostly zinc but plated in copper. My comment goes into more detail, check it out.
Based on Kyle's video about Magneto pulling the iron from someone's blood, the intensity of the magnetic field needed to suspend the core would likely kill the person trying to pick it up.
As far as covering the neutron star core in white dwarf material, wouldn't the weight of the core compress the shell into neutron star densities once it was set down given that white dwarfs compress down into neutron stars?
Here's a question. If the key does indeed weigh that much, and considering it's small size, would we have anything that we could effectively attach to the key to lift it? Without it breaking?
Exactly what I thought too. There would be no material strong enough on earth to do that.
Yeah I think every nerd in here wanted generally to see if it was a possibility. But the answer is straight up no. If Clark Kent had knowledge of a dwarf star that we do not know of yet, or incidents of something that was created in between a dwarf star turning into a neutron star that became solid. The answer would simply be that we would not be able to pick it up.....
Or at the very least, it would create a hole in the ground, or people would be able to copy the key and just enter
Why is Thor talking about breaking into Superman's house?
Best crossover
For an Alien-God fight!
@@Danilego Wonder Woman is the God Killer, so...that would be a great battle too
Because he wanna set-up a surprise party (sorry my bad english)
TBH, the entire episode I was wondering if Thor could pick up the key. Probably doesn't matter, though, because he'd just hit the lock with his hammer.
I prefer the version where the key is actually the sign that says “fortress of solitude” and the teeth are under the ground. You can’t use it unless you actually pick the entire sign up, fly it to the top of the door, and then turn it.
The kryptonian tech that keeps the key from exploding, could change its density. either the white dwarf material is compressed into a much smaller space making it have a million tons, or only a very small part of the key is made of neutron star material. the fact that Lois' hand doesn't melt when she tries to pick it up id go for the latter.
Yeah I am not the only one who got stuck on this... but couldn’t that key just be pressed on soap bar or something and made a lighter copy to open the door? Howabout just regular lockpicking?
Or is the lock is made out of something super heavy too that needs super sturdy material to operate?
If the key has half a million tons of mass, then logically the door and the tumblers in the lock would have to have the mass and strength to withstand both the weight of the key and the force required to turn the key. So no you would not be able to pick the lock.
Well the door and lock have to be reinforced to keep the door & lock from collapsing as soon as someone puts the super heavy key into it. That key would kind of shred a normal lock with it's toughness even if superman didn't let go of it, I think.
The earth weighs 5.972 × 10^24 kg. Superman claims to have a key that weighs 5,000,000,000,000 kg, in one spot on earth at all times. Shouldn't picking up this key have an effect on the earths movement?
Yes
If we run some numbers we can see how much that really is. First, you've written out 5 trillion kg, which is 5 billion metric tons. Superman states the key is half a million tons so that's "just" 500 million kg (500,000,000). As a percentage of the Earth's mass that's way, way, way.... way, way less than 1%. It's around 8.372404554588077695914266577361e-18 % of the Earth's mass. Even if the key were 5 billion (5,000,000,000) tons the exponent only goes down to -14 instead of -18, still a very very very small percentage of the Earth's mass. A spec of dust (weighing roughly 0.00000000753 kg) landing on a person weighing 84 kg (185 lbs) would have more of an impact on the person's motion/movement than Superman moving the key around, or even dropping it, on the Earth.
Edit: corrected my math.
@@awg0681 thanks superman haha
@@awg0681 I'm superman9401, and I approve this message.
Half a million tons is equivalent "only" to the weight of 5 Nimitz class carriers, I doubt it would have any noticeable impact on the Earth.
What if he used Krypto tech that can hold it all and he just shoved 500 million tons of white dwarf star into it? Like...a pokeball.
Except you could just shave a blank down to match the key or 3d print a copy
what if it was neutron star in one part of it, and the rest was a shell of kryptonian technology to maintain volume, so if the part you hold just had a bead of neutron star in it
Also, what would the key do to the ground around it, surely that kind of mass cant just sit on the snow or ice? is ice strong enough for it to disperse across an area? or would it just crack and the key would sink into the ice? and how far would it sink?
Or a Neutronic material core with a shell of White Dwarf star material? All you have to do to get a mass in between is to combine the heavier and lighter materials into one object, after all. Of course, such an object WOULD almost certainly fall through the ground, unless the ground under it was unnaturally hard. Which, if Superman can make keys out of star material, doesn't seem like much of a stretch.
@@lvht1948 well, the problem with having the white dwarf material exterior still exists that it only stays that dense due to external pressure
Huh, I had the exact same thought and comment, yet you made it before me, oops on my part for not checking the check moments enough
Similar thought...you conveyed it a bit more concise :)
A better idea would be a door knob that only he was strong enough to turn. Involving the mechanism of the door and even the door itself.
Given the simple shape of the key, I would just make a copy.
Great episode with lots of details, thank you !
Moral/Theme: Superman can't differ a neutron star to a white dwarf star
Um. Kyle. Dwarf Star is a metal in the DC Universe
I believe you, but I can't find it anywhere.
could you give the sauce?
Which is made from white dwarf star material
@Ken HarrisThor? That's marvel
Yeah it's dwarf star alloy, and its magical so it basically just ignores any science anyway
@Ken Harris 1: DC isn't Disney, and 2: Dwarf Star isn't a metal in Marvel, Mjolnir was made out of Uru metal, and was forged in a dying star by the giant dwarfs, they aren't DC.
Wouldn't such mass packed in such a small key pierce earth right to the core ?
And then the Momentum of that key falling would cause it to fly out the other side of earth.
The fortress of solitude isn't his house it's more like superman's version of the batcave
Yeah.. his "house" is an apartment lol
The fortress of solitude is superman's home the apartment is Clark Kent's home
With all that Kryptonian tech around Superman should've made DNA scanner that opens the door for him. Only Kryptonians could enter it, especially Superman...
ZOD NIGGA
That's exactly what I thought, but I think it would have to open just to Superman, not for any Kryptonian. I think it would work very much better than this impossible key.
Read New 52
A biometric scanner
Didn't really matter in the end, Kryptonians eventually did come to earth and took it over because unlike super man they were evil, and simply lifted the key to get inside. That scanner idea is terrible because most Kryptonians turn out to be bad guys at some point or brainwashed, even Superman has and Lex Lurthor has even been able to create clones of Super Man through getting his DNA so even if you specified in making the Scanner specifically look for only him, there is still a pretty big chance some one could break in.
Though for a normal person you could just.... get a mold for the key and come back? Unless you need inhuman strength to turn the lock as well, that key doesn't really matter at all.
But ... couldn’t you just ... pick the lock?
@@yeetypeety1877 😂😂
you don't even have to know how to pick locks. The original key is right there to make copies of.
Is it a normal key? Couldnt you just walk over pour some mold material on the key, make a copy and use that to open the door?
Thought the same thing but i assumed the the mass pervolume and strength of the key was necessary to turn the lock
@@kumiq17 but if the doorknob is the same as the key, wouldn't that destroy the door? back to square 1
YOU COULD BREAK IN .... The key is kept on the ground right ? .. one could use a soap or modelling clay to take an imprint of the key and you could make a spare key from it .. and use that to break in
But the locking mechanism is still geared for a Super-Key to turn it. Your copy would just break.
My idea
Doesn't matter how heavy it is. Just take a pic of it and craft your own key or take it to a locksmith.
Superman after reading this: (ಠ_ಠ) "oh, not good.....didn't think about that" *Rapidly flying home to change his security measures*
Well you just have to lockpick his door since it's a classic key.... So forget picking the key up and straight up lockpick it, hence ridiculing superman further .
Krypto is in there and he lets you run around doing whatever you want until you try to leave. Sups finds Krypto playing with your femur.
Was thinking the same the second I see the key... Also, as you have access to the key, you can copy it easily without having to pick it up, so it will even be easier than lockpicking
You're assuming the tumblers inside the otherwise-ordinary lock don't take ludicrous amounts of force to move them, and that they wouldn't be resistant enough to require insanely-dense material to even hold up under the kind of torque required to move them. That said, there are other entities on Earth with super strength, so... like... any of them could just go "don't care have super strength too" and pick the key up and use it.
*Just imagine ...*
*Mjolnir as a house key...*
... or as a keychain.
Two birds one stone or Mjolnir in this case.
Mjolnir isn´t the house key. Mjolnir is there when you´ve forgotten the house key. DING DONG! *crash*
"You are not worthy....to enter this domicile."
This is my own private domicile and I will not be harassed... bith
Every door is able to be opened by Mjolnir. Thor just needs to tap the door with it, the door will open.... explosively, but it'll be open!
Even if you use something to contain the material inside the key, when superman holds it by the tip, the torque of 500000 tons would probably make it bend! And if you use neutron star material like you said at the end, would the floor even be able to hold it? I mean, it would probably break right through solid rock!
Be careful not to hand it to anyone 😂😂
The elephant falling down in the background had me laughing hard 😂
Hey, Kyle while metal crafting smiths can dense metal together creating areas with 2 or 3 times the density of the original material by hammering it. What if let's say Superman got a huge chunk of White Dwarf star material and via similar methods he compressed it to from his key (plus with the help of some cool Kryptonian technology)
Weird at 0:09 kyle disapeared and at 0:35 he magically like appeared
It's called editing.
@@tiagotiagot 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ no ...
@@Centttttt60 It's a bird? A Plane? Superman? No, that was the joke flying right past you.
@@tiagotiagot Maaaaaaaaan, for real? 🤣🤣🤣
Would the key with the neutron star mass (if maintained in size with kryptonian technology) plunge straight into the Earth's core or can the ground be dense/thick enough to stop it?
I'm glad I read down into the comments. My thoughts exactly.
That's something I was thinking.
I was just gonna comment that.
It definitely would, check out the book “What If”, the author does the maths for a bullet made of neutron star stuff
@@11doublett Supposing the bullet would be shot by something. A gun would be much lighter than its ammos and would probably recoil without moving the bullet (if it doesn't just go right through the clip).
Who is the author btw?
Mjolnir: *FINALLY A WORTHY OPPONENT OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY*
500 million ton key
Regular wooden door
Might as well just make a 500 million ton door XD
Imagine if Superman forgets the key in the door lock while entering...
I don't like the new guy your trying to introduce......... We only want you Kyle!!!
Make the guy in the glasses sweep the floor or something........
5:55 Pause it. Take it in.
That pun.
That face.
It's beautiful.
Seems like hardly anyone noticed it. I can't believe so many people missed it.
Considering he has crushed coal into diamonds, could he take the dwarf star material and forcibly compress into a key and use kryptonian tech to maintain that form.
How can ben 10s omnitrix change him into different aliens
Sansh Ds magic
CRISPR, while storing his original genetic code to rewrite him back to normal within the Matrix. And some sort of alien tech to maintain his constitution (shapeshifting is painful, probably) and also a chrono-accelerator to make the reaction and transformation happen in a fraction of a second. Which in and of itself has problems with power management.
Plot
Methylation.
Quantum mechanics. Using the genetic samples stored in the Omnitrix, it increases the likelyhood of a sudden random transformation of his body from human to one of the aliens in the Omnitrix from being almost zero to being an actuality. Like with how Kyle Hill explains "phasing" but instead of it causing molecules to appear on the other side of other molecules, it makes it more likely for his DNA to match the DNA samples in the Omnitrix.
Best Scientific Insult: "Yo Momma's so fat, she passed the Chandrasekhar Limit!"
If you could pick it up...should you....
Not to mention that the key would sink to the core of the earth if it was placed on the ground
can you explain Batman's *"I'm Batman !"* with science?
So if Superman acciKentally bent his key, a black hole would form and destroy Earth as we know it?
Nero Narcotic Nope, non stellar mass black holes don’t work like that. It’s actually hugely difficult to get matter into such a hole. It could drop straight through your body from head to foot and likely never touch any of your atoms.
@@DrewLSsix actually he was referring to the fact that if you compact neutron star material further it forms a black hole. there fore if a key is bent it by definition compresses the material and forms a black hole.
due to the relatively low density of the key, a resultant black hole would likely dissipate within moments.
@@Ariaelyne Maybe, maybe not, if the key bent in multiple places in the same inciKent it could cause a chain reaction of black holes that then consume the Earth, right?
@@_o.0_ I don't know. Let's find out.
The key itself is probably kryptonian tech that can contain that 4mm of neutron star
Well said
Dat sunlight tho😂
Num num num num!
Just feels good man -- kH
If Superman basically eats sunlight, does he poop rainbows?
With a key to the city, the world is your oyster. Even superman's place
Hey, Kyle. I really love your show and i really wanted to get to footnotes, sooo.
I have seen that people, with just photos of keys can create amazing replicas of them, that are good enough to unlock the doors the keys are from. And the key in superman's hand seems pretty generic, so someone with ill intent could in theory create a key and either 3d print it or machine it from metal to get in the fortress without picking up the key.
Of course. This disregards maybe the key having specific properties that let you unlock. Maybe the lock is made from the same material and has some sory of spring where you have to be super strong to turn the key even if it is in, thus making that key the only possible to be put in the keyhole, making every other material shatter before it managed to unlock the door.
that may not work looking at how "dense" the key material is, i would assume that the lock mechanism would be of similar strength and hardness else (due to the hardness) the key itself would crush the little knobs inside the lock as Superman turns the key like running a stone through jelly
also (assuming the key fabricating method works) the key "fabricator" would also need a machine that could provide the torque high enough to turn the key to overcome the lock's mechanism inertia to successfully unlock the door.
don't mean to troll but just my 2 cents.... cheers....
@@aleech123 That assumes our smart boy was smart enough to do work on the lock mechanism. He couldn't even get the key right. I doubt it.
We've seen villains break into his house a couple of times already. Batman, a human, goes in and out of his fortress whenever he wants, with or without permission like it was one of his mansions. I guess the alternative way to get inside besides breaking in is an open secret that only our smart boy doesn't know about.
@@aleech123 I just remembered that Batman has a spare key to our smart boy's fortress. Considering his humanistic strength, your arguments about the lock mechanism are totally debunked and that 3d printed copy of the key idea is totally legit.
@@noiJadisCailleach well... he's only Superman; while Batman... well it's Batman lol... point taken
Maybe the key just has a neutrino star core and the surrounding material is a less dense kryptonian mantle keeping it from expanding.
If something the size of a key weighed half a million tonnes, wouldn't it just sink into the ground?
It's in the Fortress so its no ordinary ground.
@Over Opinionated Bogan bro, he's an alien, he's not American no matter where he lives
@@DeathTeamSolo he grew up there tho.. must have USA passport and citizenship
@Over Opinionated Bogan I guess that would depend on how far the buildings base goes.When I'm at the front door to my house, I'm standing on concrete, not grass. this also includes the path leading to the front door. If its not on base, then I would 100% agree with you.
What about just picking the lock? The key is heavy and dense but he does not say anything about the keyhole itself. Am I wrong?
If the key has half a million tons of mass, then logically the door and the tumblers in the lock would have to have the mass and strength to withstand both the weight of the key and the force required to turn the key. So no you would not be able to pick the lock.
@@pegdude6125 That is surely a faulty application of logic and science, since the key is used by Superman who is, well, superhumanly abled, and definitely can just insert the key carefully enough and then turn it perfectly around its axis without applying any force on the lock other than just what the turning motion produces, which cannot break the lock unless super fast, because the lock is of course made to accommodate for such a motion.
@@Riwillion Yes but we are talking about if one is able to pick lock the door. Logically speaking he wouldnt have it able to be picklocked, and the way of doing that, plus the way of dealing with the issues I mentioned above would be to make the door as dence in mass as the key. That way there would be no need for superman to be so careful with the key, and would ensure that the only way of opening the door is with that key. My logic is not faulty thank you very much.
Personally, I'd just say it's a key-shaped container vessel storing neutron star material. That lets you pick the weight you want and explains containment.
But honestly, it's a key. A supervillain can surely just figure out some way to determine the shape of they key, fabricate one out of ordinary material, and use it to get in.
depends on how the lock works.
Really, it's just another example of pointless escalation in comic books. If it's that important to keep the fortress of solitude secure, then it shouldn't be able to be opened without Superman present - creating some key schtick only creates an attack surface for a villain to interact with the fortress, given enough motivation to do so. And really, a villain defeated by the key would just deflect efforts to attack the fortress some other way and create another confrontation altogether focused entirely on a measurement of abilities. There's no actual plot as we're distracted by the semantics, which makes a half-billion-ton key just an extension of the poor writing involved in the first place.
@@AspLode
Giving an obvious (apparent) vulnerability for attackers to (try to) exploit can help bolster security - it means you can predict how people are likely to attempt to get in and prepare for that specifically rather than having to defend against all possible attacks equally, and it also buys you additional time to detect the incursion attempt before they move on to something with an actual chance of working...
@@rmsgrey But that doesn't address the fact that a story-interaction between villain and Superman is being offloaded to some proxy which doesn't achieve anything new, because it's Superman's fortress and it represents Superman's abilities, so a villain attacking the fortress tests himself against Superman's abilities. It's just another way for Superman's abilities to leverage itself as an obstacle for the villain. It doesn't enhance the plot, it merely expands Superman which is pointless because Superman already expands in his stories to overcome any and all obstacles. Superman essentially states that the very mechanism by which the fortress can be accessed is limited to those of Superman's abilities, at which point "500 million tons, made out of a dying star's matter" doesn't mean anything more than "Only I can pick up this key". It's the same narrative masturbation which distracts all bad aspects of superhero stories.
Going back to what you're saying, a Super-key for a Super-door to a Super-fort made by Superman as a nucleation point for an approaching villain would simply be super-tactics and yet-another-demonstration-of-Superman's-abilities, in this case his ability to out-think his adversaries. It doesn't do anything that the Super-weight of the Super-key already achieves, that is provide a barrier against interaction that is directly connected to Superman's abilities.
Now, if the fortress were made by someone else and Superman had no choice but to trust this person's abilities and motivations, and the fortress sheltered something like a humongous cache of kryptonite or some other Superman hamartia, then it would be something substantial. Then it would mean something that he shows Lois the key. As it stands, Lois can't do anything with the information, he could be showing literally anyone the key. Hell, most of the rebuttals offered in the comments to the tune of "it's exclusive Kryptonian technology" to answer both "how does it weigh exactly 500-million-tons" and "what happens if a villain simply copies the shape of the key" further entrenches the fact that it doesn't matter, the whole key scene doesn't matter from a narrative perspective.
It's just "Hey guys in case you forgot, Superman is extremely strong."
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I suspect part of the reason for the super-heavy house-key is to be a "correction" to the older version where the Fortress had a lock so large that people could walk through it (assuming they survived the various booby traps) and was unlocked by a key disguised as an aircraft marker intended for use as a navigation aid by airplanes in flight that was too big for anyone to lift without heavy equipment.
I've not read All-Star Superman, so I've got no chance of commenting on the scene in context, but as a taking someone home to meet the parents and/or giving them a key to your place, showing the juxtaposition of the mundane - a regular (looking) door key under a regular door mat - with the Super - the key being too heavy for most people to lift - as a reflection of Kal El's dual character as Clark Kent and Superman could reflect Kal opening up to Lois and showing her his true identity beneath the masks.
It making sense or not as a Super-home security system is secondary, in that reading, to what it says about the characters and their relationship in that moment.
Why can’t I stop watching your kick ass show! It’s like watching a thesis every time.
STOP BREAKING INTO PPLS HOUSES
Correct me if I'm wrong but assuming that Superman somehow did manage to make a key using neutron star material if we use the formula for gravitational force the key would exert about 3 N of force on a person 1 meter away from it. Would someone be able to perceive this? And if so, what would that even feel like? Also, great video!
wouldnt it sink through the earth
That's right, Kyle didn't go into that. Ignoring the nuclear explosion concept, the object is still dense enough to have a rather noticeable gravitation pull. Even if Sups' did hide it under a welcome mat, people would feel the pull and know where it is.
Hi, Kyle. I'm Joel from Germany. I've got a question that would need knowledge about the new Aquaman movie. If you have seen it, can you explain how Black-Mantas eye-lasers work? Could you make a episode about this.
He said he "crafted" it from dwarf star material. He would still have to cool it so it doesn't mess up the earth at that density to begin with. Plus crafting a key involves condensing it anyway. Using his super strength and super breath he could have just made that from like half a white dwarf star.
Did you consider that he could have alloyed the dwarf star metal with neutron star material?
Pat Sutherland What does that even mean,you can’t “alloy” neutron star material.The stuff neutron stars are made of can barely be considered normal matter in the first place.This isn’t some common element but neutrons that are on the verge of becoming a black hole.Also let’s assume for a moment that you could alloy these materials,so you are saying he might have alloyed neutrons and electron degenerate matter?It’s not that your question is stupid but more that the question doesn’t even make sense in the first place.
Thickness of Ice can support weight is shown by P = Ah^2 where P is the load, h is the thickness of Ice, and A is a constant for flexural strength, which for ice is about 1.
So a half a million tons (1,000,000,000 = 1 h^2)
So the ice would need to be 31,622 inches thick at the North Pole where his fortress of solitude rests so the key wouldn’t crack the ice and fall to the bottom of the ocean. Or about a half mile thick.
But the Artic Ice is only 2-3 meters thick. So Superman setting that half a million ton key under his door mat would crack the ice and sink the fortress of solitude under the water.
Note, half a million tons = 1 billion pounds I used in the formula.
And there are more robust formulas for minimum safe ice thickness that factor in surface area the weight is distributed. But since the normal house key shown is around one square inch give or take, I figured the simple formula would be sufficient.
His fortress doesn’t rest on the ice it grew from the core of the earth and broke ground so the key is actually resting on his fortress outside the entrance but is surrounded by ice and earthly soil.
Not all versions of the Fortress of Solitude were in the north Artic either.
But the version depicted in the reference to the heavy key is.
Which has several times in various media been shown to have the Artic Ocean running under it. That it has risen up and separated from the growth point to rest in/on the ice.
NinjaBearFilms No he has one in the amazon jungle as recently too and one on the moon since rebirth and on in the South Pole. Same methodology though. The version this video is taking notes from is Grant Morrison’s 12 issue All-Star Superman. It’s the architecture of the structure that is built from its core to support many of his inventions criminals and so forth and for that reason it wouldn’t lie on anything weaker. You wouldn’t build a skyscraper on New York City if it wasn’t for the huge amount of bedrock it has that’s why you see skyscrapers there it would cave in otherwise. So the fortress structure is built from the core. That’s how the fortress is always emerging both in movies and comics. You’re only seeing the tip of it. But its not some floating corkscrew. What ever structural changes is done after is something Superman has done himself. He has a lot of animals extraterrestrial for example so he creates habitats for them so stuff gets changed.
Wait!?! Where did Kyle go? 0:12
what if the weight of the door (which can substain the wight of the key and its pressure without breaking) is the real security system preventing thieves from entering the fortress of solitude? It should be made of a pretty dense material as well as the key, or at least the lock should, otherwise it could be broken by the key trying to open it.
if it was neutron material... wouldn't it sink to the core of the planet when he places it under the mat?
My thought exactly, unless there's some way the ice could prevent it from doing so. But there's a tiny surface area, and what happens when you have a tiny surface area over ice? Yeah. That's why laying down on ice is better than standing. Yes I know it's not thin ice, but still, with that weight it doesn't matter.
If the fortress is made of ice... Why bother with the door in the first place when you can just melt through a wall with a blowtorch or flamethrower?
Also, even if you can't lift the key: seeing it is quite enough since you could make a duplicate of the key from lighter materia by measuring it on the ground.
Comic book writers...
It’s not made of ice it’s made of a Kryptonian crystal
Just throw the key on it
The fortress is made of crystal, it just blends into the surrounding ice.
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@@stevenf_usmc: Haha, sorry if I don't feel offended when the criticism comes from a pathetic, incel comic book nerd. XD
Kyle, I am curious about the substances listed in the spectrograph puzzles in Marvel’s Spider-Man on the PS4. What are they? What is their use in everyday life? And what scientific applications do they have in modern science?
Also, if they can realistically be used to make Doc Ock’s mechanical arms (which I doubt 🤷🏽♂️)?
Seems easier to pick the lock than risk handling star material.