That probably depends on if you are running a factory spot aftermarket intercooler, or a FMIC. I have a FMIC with all aftermarket charge pipes, and it was easy to remove. Just remove the front number, intake, and pre-intercooler charge pipes, and voila. It’s all right there.
I don’t think tuners give info out like that lol. That’s how they make $$. He did it through Maestro somehow. Maybe check the Maestro forums to see if anyone knows how.
Hey Jace thinks for the video! Who’s your tuner? I’m on an EQT tune who previously coded out the P0420, but now they don’t tune out emissions related stuff, even if I’m using the vehicle for off-road use only.
Yes, I used some Permatex 82180 Ultra Black, and applied a thin layer to the gasket. Firstly to keep the gasket attached to the block off plate for an easier install, and secondly to give it that extra coating to seal so that I know for sure it won’t leak in the future. Zero leaks and still working perfectly. I don’t know the torque. I just tightened them down till I was satisfied.
I have a 2020 mk7 gti and i am getting a code for the sai valve being stuck open. I get misfires at startup and a rough idle. You think this will solve that problem? And is it a little different cus mine is automatic? Also thank you for this video!
It’s possible. But it’s hard to say if it’s for sure. Remember, if you add the block-off plate, the car will run rich on startup because you’re not getting the fresh air from the SAI anymore.
(IF) by chance your WG is slightly stuck open or the Actuator isn't working properly, you could have the same situation. With the exhaust turbine releasing air at start-up it, the secondary air pump wouldn't be filling that air demand through the exhaust. When your idle rests and isn't bouncing, then you're alright. If your idle is bouncing, then more likely carbonization of the intake valves. Damn VW's...
@@JacesOwnWorld Thanks Sir! I had a faulty CHHA without SAI and now I'm installing a new engine with SAI, maybe is a CXCB. I don't have the SAI hardware parts but since my ECU and engine doesn't have SAI, I'm not sure if I will get errors if I just cover the hole for the SAI system. Have to try :). Are you selling that parts? Thanks in advance!
Yes it should. Right now, your P0491 wont go away unless you fix the SAI or delete it. I personally would just delete it, and then have your tuner tune out the SAI codes after. As always though, you should contact your tuner before you do this so that you know for sure they can tune the codes out.
Really no purpose to get rid of it except to clear out the engine bay to attain more room. I decided to delete it because I had a SAI combi valve CEL code on for almost 3 years that could not be deleted permanently unless I either replaced the SAI combi valve that failed ($170-$250), or deleted the SAI with a block off plate ($30). All the SAI pump does is pump fresh air into the block on a cold start so that your vehicles computer senses the extra air on startup to dial in your car air-to-fuel ratio sooner (because on a cold start most vehicles are running rich for a 30 seconds to a minute). If your vehicle runs rich for too long, that could damage your catalytic converter. My car doesn’t have a catalytic converter anymore. I took that off back in June 2017, so the SAI pump literally does nothing for my car except take up space and create CEL codes. I didn’t want to replace the combi valve because of the expense, but also because I didn’t want to have it fail in the future again (as it most likely would due to my custom tune)(SAI pumps don’t like it when cars are tuned so they fail pretty often on tuned cars). Deleting this does nothing for the car performance wise. It just allows peace of mind not having that SAI CEL fault code on the dash 24/7.
@@JacesOwnWorld ya I have a mk7. Ya I saw u removed it, I’m debating on getting another pump cuz mine is faulty, or doing the block off plate if my tuner can tune out the CEL code. I can’t find the right oem pump anywhere. They all look different than the oem one u pulled off, just don’t wanna buy the wrong thing
FYI with an aftermarket intercooler and piping it is MUCH harder to remove the SAI.
That probably depends on if you are running a factory spot aftermarket intercooler, or a FMIC. I have a FMIC with all aftermarket charge pipes, and it was easy to remove. Just remove the front number, intake, and pre-intercooler charge pipes, and voila. It’s all right there.
@@JacesOwnWorld forsure! That makes sense. Again thanks for the video, helped me with my install/removal of the block off plate and pump and lines!
Hey thank for the video. Could your tuner tell us how they deleted the check engine for the 2nd air?
I don’t think tuners give info out like that lol. That’s how they make $$. He did it through Maestro somehow. Maybe check the Maestro forums to see if anyone knows how.
Hey Jace thinks for the video! Who’s your tuner? I’m on an EQT tune who previously coded out the P0420, but now they don’t tune out emissions related stuff, even if I’m using the vehicle for off-road use only.
I’m tuned through Frank Mabo
hey men did you use any seal for the gasket and what's the torque on those bolts . thanks for the video .
Yes, I used some Permatex 82180 Ultra Black, and applied a thin layer to the gasket. Firstly to keep the gasket attached to the block off plate for an easier install, and secondly to give it that extra coating to seal so that I know for sure it won’t leak in the future.
Zero leaks and still working perfectly.
I don’t know the torque. I just tightened them down till I was satisfied.
@@JacesOwnWorld thanks so much .
Your house is baller dude
Thanks!
I have a 2020 mk7 gti and i am getting a code for the sai valve being stuck open. I get misfires at startup and a rough idle. You think this will solve that problem? And is it a little different cus mine is automatic? Also thank you for this video!
It’s possible. But it’s hard to say if it’s for sure.
Remember, if you add the block-off plate, the car will run rich on startup because you’re not getting the fresh air from the SAI anymore.
@@JacesOwnWorld will that cause the same issues? Not starting on first crank.
I’m not really sure. Hard to say without seeing your car in person and running some Dx’s
(IF) by chance your WG is slightly stuck open or the Actuator isn't working properly, you could have the same situation. With the exhaust turbine releasing air at start-up it, the secondary air pump wouldn't be filling that air demand through the exhaust.
When your idle rests and isn't bouncing, then you're alright. If your idle is bouncing, then more likely carbonization of the intake valves.
Damn VW's...
Hello Sir, is this CHHA engine? Or which code is? Thanks in advance.
My engine code is CXCB
@@JacesOwnWorld Thanks Sir! I had a faulty CHHA without SAI and now I'm installing a new engine with SAI, maybe is a CXCB. I don't have the SAI hardware parts but since my ECU and engine doesn't have SAI, I'm not sure if I will get errors if I just cover the hole for the SAI system. Have to try :). Are you selling that parts? Thanks in advance!
@b0nn1n you should be fine just putting a blocking plate on it. You will get a CEL though that a tuner will need to block out. No, I’m not selling it.
Did you remove the fuse for this unit?
No
what are the SAI CODES you get from doing the delete thinking to do the delete but wont beable to have the lights off anymore
Hey, the SAI codes I have are P2432, P0413, and P2431. You won’t be able to code these codes out without a tuner doing it for you.
@@JacesOwnWorld what's up man so I have a p0491 if I get the delete and talk you my tuner will that code go away?
Yes it should. Right now, your P0491 wont go away unless you fix the SAI or delete it. I personally would just delete it, and then have your tuner tune out the SAI codes after. As always though, you should contact your tuner before you do this so that you know for sure they can tune the codes out.
Thank you
What’s the purpose for this ? Abs benefits ?
Really no purpose to get rid of it except to clear out the engine bay to attain more room. I decided to delete it because I had a SAI combi valve CEL code on for almost 3 years that could not be deleted permanently unless I either replaced the SAI combi valve that failed ($170-$250), or deleted the SAI with a block off plate ($30). All the SAI pump does is pump fresh air into the block on a cold start so that your vehicles computer senses the extra air on startup to dial in your car air-to-fuel ratio sooner (because on a cold start most vehicles are running rich for a 30 seconds to a minute). If your vehicle runs rich for too long, that could damage your catalytic converter. My car doesn’t have a catalytic converter anymore. I took that off back in June 2017, so the SAI pump literally does nothing for my car except take up space and create CEL codes. I didn’t want to replace the combi valve because of the expense, but also because I didn’t want to have it fail in the future again (as it most likely would due to my custom tune)(SAI pumps don’t like it when cars are tuned so they fail pretty often on tuned cars). Deleting this does nothing for the car performance wise. It just allows peace of mind not having that SAI CEL fault code on the dash 24/7.
Can we get a link to that part
No
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Hey man, all the pumps I find for my mk7 don’t look like one in ur video. Is it possible for u to reply with the link to the right one? Thanks
Do you have a MK7? And what pump are you talking about? I removed my OEM SAI pump. I never installed one back in.
@@JacesOwnWorld ya I have a mk7. Ya I saw u removed it, I’m debating on getting another pump cuz mine is faulty, or doing the block off plate if my tuner can tune out the CEL code. I can’t find the right oem pump anywhere. They all look different than the oem one u pulled off, just don’t wanna buy the wrong thing
@@JacesOwnWorld if u could send me a link to the oem pump I’d appreciate it lol. I can’t find it. If not it’s all good thanks
I don’t know the part number or anything to the OEM part. You might have to look that up on ECS Tuning or something like that.
@@JacesOwnWorld oh ok thanks man