Paralleled Duromax XP9000iH Dual Fuel Inverter Hybrid Portable Generators with One Propane Tank
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- Paralleled Duromax XP9000iH with one propane bottle.
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Great video, thank you for taking the time to record them!
Great video buddy! This would be a great setup. Thanks again for an amazing video.
Thanks buddy!👍🏾
Geez! You can power your RV and everyone else's at the campground with that setup. Way too much for me but pretty cool anyway. Thanks.
Lol yep! I’ll bring the generator everyone else can bring the gas or the propane bottles.
Thanks Tom
This is SICK! Thank you for sharing!!
Thanks 😊
If doomsday comes, I'm finding Gavin. Dude has enough generators to power a small city.
Lol 😆 Thanks
Cool video!!!
Thank you.
I hope to one day afford one of these units. Gavin must have like 20 generators stashed away in his garage haha.
I sell them all after I reviewed them lol.
It’s not personal just business.
I have this same generator and can say it is the best generator I have ever had. The spilt phase 30 amp is ideal for a 50 amp trailer..unless you want to parallel them together as noted above. It is also very quiet in relation to other similar generators. Yes they're expense but it's for a reason, you get what you pay for.
Well said my friend 👍🏾
Hey Gavin, I sent you an email :) @@GeneratorReviews
Thank you for doing these videos , they are very informative. i would just like to ask if you review diesel generators .
Haven’t reviewed one yet
I love mine since I got it months ago. Have you used the little battery tender cord? They don’t really go into much detail in the manual. It looks like you can just keep it plugged in to keep the battery fresh. But they don’t supply any information on it really. So I’m not sure if it’s ok to keep it connected full time.
Hey Gavin,
I would just keep plugged in as needed to maintain the battery.
Going to gue the 15 pound will freeze up with both genorators running a good load .
Hi Gavin Could you do me a big favor.
While doing this test were you able to hook this setup to your trailer. According to a lot of folks the DuroMax XP9000iH and the XP9000iH-pk cant output 120v on 2 legs from the 50amp plug since the neutral is missing. An example of a generator thats wired correctly is the Honda eu7000is, (SOME of the predator 9500s even some of these are missing the neutral on the front panel.) and the new Genmax. The way the DuroMax is wired its only be able to safely produce 240v, not 120/240.
Could you check out this post I started about using the xp9000iH with there xp9000iH-pk parallel box with no neutral connection. Seems odd DuroMax would do this.
Site is power equipment forum and the post is Labeled Duromax XP9000iH-pk parallel box question
Thank Robert
I have 2 Honda EU2200 companions that I coverted into propane (hutch mountain). They included a regulator to be used at the propane tank. I did not see one with this set up. Is it nessasary?
The Duromax has it on the inside Actually showed that on my vs video Duromax versus predator
Will the 40 lb tank in your video work with the hose and regulator that comes with the Duromax generator, or do you need to buy something different?
It work perfectly fine with the one it comes with 👍🏾💯
Thanks for your thorough reviews … wondering if you can help,w 2 questions… 1) if one generator fails can you run a single generator through parallel (at reduced power) or do they both have to work for the parallel kit to send power 2) my electrical panel has a surge protector built in … will the lack of a neutral be an issue?
You can use one at its rated power output
@@GeneratorReviews thank you! Do you know if the lack of a neutral will be problematic with the surge protector in my electrical panel? Really appreciate it.
As depicted in the video, with both generators running on that single small propane tank, as I understand it, you wont get anywhere near the rated power on propane. I believe these large generators require a 100 lb propane tank when ran near the limit. Thats because the liquid propane has to evaporate into the gaseous state, which cools down and will freeze the connector/lines with a huge load that two generators could pull. So while the demonstration is appreciated, you cannot run two generators this size on a small propane tank. Check the manual of these large generators. It probably says to use a 100 lb propane tank in the literature. So to run the two generators parallel, you would technically need TWO 100 lb propane tanks.
Yes the manual does recommend 40 lb propane tanks, I don’t think the generators will pull enough gas to freeze the lines
Wow , not one but Two!!! Nice!!. How many generators do you have? Do you keep them all?
No I don’t just keep them enough for the reviews
I now have 2 Champion 5500 inverters, but would love to have the 2 DMax. They were no where to be found when I searched last year. 😔
They aren’t easy to find these days.
Hi Gavin
Im sorry to keep bothering you but Iv got a quick question about your paralleled XP9000iH Video. Where you able to hook up a load to the parallel box or check the voltage on the 30 or 50 amp plug on the parallel box.I am trying to get an answer from Duromax. This is what I asked them Since the parallel wires are switched at the 3 pole master breaker on the XP9000iH, what is the procedure for connecting both generators to work in parallel as far as what order to start them so they are synced. Since the parallel connectors are off untill the 3 pole master breaker on the XP9000iH is switched on, How can the second XP9000iH detect the master. Just curious.
Thanks for your help
Rob
Hey Rob
I did open the xp9000ih pk and verified the Neutral plug have no wire going to it.
The Duromax have no starting requirements it doesn’t matter which one you start first when paralleling
Is there a way to add the neutral connection with that parallel kit and both duramax 9000’s.
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In other words, would a 100 pound propane tank be too large for these generators or is there no problem with doing that? Thank you again!
It doesn’t matter how large your propane tank is as long as the pressure is regulated that’s why they come with pressure regulators
Thanks for watching and thanks for subscribing Michael 👍🏾
Hello Gavin! Thanks for the videos! Do you think I could run my Duromax 9000 on a 100 pound propane cylinder? I think I would need an adapter for the Duromax propane line to hook up to a 100 pound tank. Thank you for your advice! Mike in DFW
Hey Mike I would consult with someone that deals with propane tanks and pressure regulator and see if they can regulate the pressure to work on your portable back up generator that’s just some thing I can’t advise you on but I’m pretty sure they can do it. Thanks for watching
If nobody's answered this already, definitely just need an adapter. For the regulator or a new fitting at the end of the regulator. A barbecue tank comes with a qcc valve and the 100 lb cylinder comes with a pol valve. If you need to know exactly what part number and fitting you can buy I can get that for you if you reply to this message. propane service man CEO/president Southland propane Inc.
On propane power, I think it says you can run 6-8hrs @ half load but it doesn’t say what size tank there using. I come across this missing information a lot with generators! Do you know what size bottle there using for this claim?
6 to 8 hours on 20 lbs propane tanks are the test standard
The marketing sheet I've seen with the 8 hour figure prints further down that 40 lb is recommended, so I assume that was their measurement.
We were trying to get ahead of the winter storm and we powered our house for the first time today with the XP9000iH. Although it worked as advertised, we fell short in powering what we wanted it to. Can you tell me what the total running watts (and peak watts) would be when paralleled?
Nevermind. I looked it up. 18,000 and 15,000 watts basically... Thanks for the videos!!
Starting wattage is 18000w and running is 12500w if you have a 50 amp inlet box that’s the max the cable will support
@@smaknk
Although you have 15Kw running, as Gavin pointed out, you've got a 30amp, 240V outlet, which will only put out 7.2kw and a 50amp, 240V outlet, which will only put out 12kw. I think they should have replaced the 50 amp outlet with a 60 amp outlet, but that would then require a 4 gauge wire, which is very expensive (and hard to work with when constructing a cord to run to your house). On the other hand, you're losing running watts.
Nice videos ! I have one question about the propane tank, when one is near empty, can you change it (switch it) to a full one without stopping everything ?
They are both running on the same propane tank so they both run out together you have to shut everything down to switch it anyways.
@@GeneratorReviews thanks for the response ! Yeah, this must be the only flaw of the propane . With gaz you just put more without stopping … or maybe if we can run with two tank on the same line …? I don’t know how to solve this
@@benoitheroux6839 yes you can buy a automatic tank switch that will allow you to switch tanks
@@benoitheroux6839 My understanding is that before switching LPG tanks, you can simply switch the fuel selector from LPG to gasoline (as long as there is some gasoline in the tank of course). The engine will remain running, and you can then swap your LPG tank and change the fuel selector back to LPG.
I always wonder how universal those parallel kits are. Example could you use that Duromax parallel kit to parallel a Champion and a Predator generator?
Absolutely if they have the same parallel plug you can use it on any brand generator
Be careful, most parallel kits for the smaller generators only output 120v... not 240v. This one outputs 240v.
@@StanSimmons They all are wired the same the generator is the one that controls the different voltage
You won’t get 240V from a generator that has one leg so the parallel kit just puts out 120
@@GeneratorReviews True, but I've run across a parallel kit that bridged both of the 240 legs so you could pull 120 from each leg... not terribly useful on a 240 generator like the XP9000iH.
Hi Gavin, have you run 1 generator on the 20lb tank for very long ? I was wondering if it would ice up and cause problems ? I have several 20 lb tanks and did not want to have the expense of buying the 40 lb
You can get 16 hrs at 25% load haven’t had any problems
@@GeneratorReviews Thank you
My question is, if they are parallel or single, it still going to be 30amps max, not the first hit, but it will come down to 30 amps, right? Those wires look like about 10 gages.
When you parallel two generators like that the benefit is having each generator run at 50% reducing the load and strain but when you parallel you do get the 50 amp at 240 V remember high voltage lower amperage that wire is perfectly fine
@@GeneratorReviews roger! Two legs for 50amps. cool!
Thank you for the video. If I buy that parallel from Duromax… will it work on two Poxurio 6000w? It’s compatible? I already own both Xi9000 Duromax and Poxurio 6000… will it also work that way? My plan is to sell Duromax and get another Poxurio to save $ a nd space. Thank you in advance.
I don’t think that will work. They have a different parallel ports.
In the large tank, with it vertical it read 1/2 tank but when you laid it down horizontal, it read empty. Can you look at they a little closer and let us know what’s up?
The tank is completely empty brand-new tank zero gas
OK in vertical It says add in horizontal you read the E to F so you only read it when it’s in the appropriate position
How long does it last for the 40 pound tank with full load in parallel?
I would have to perform that test I’ve not done it
When Paralleling, do you have to use two generators of the same type and wattage's?
Now you just need the same voltage output the brand does not matter
@@GeneratorReviews So I can use my old Generic 550 to my new Duramax 9000?
The manual says on page 36 to turn low idle off when starting it. But who reads manuals, right? ;-) I wish the parallel kits were in stock..
I know right!😅 It’s funny how all the new generators with automatic eco-mode starts with eco-mode on low idle. It only makes more sense why would I start my engine and rev it on high.
Can 2 Duramax 9000 Paralled, and 2 Predator 9500i paralleled, plug each 50 amp plug to a 100 amp Parallel Box.. will thjis work for 100 amps at 240v to you service panel?
I just had another subscriber told me he did just that and it works I’ve never tried it personally but it should work he said his done it
if you put together 2 generators of 30ap each you get 60ap?
Yes the is correct
Not having a neutral on the parallel kit is an open circuit? This seems sketchy at best. Please enlighten me
I don’t know why they decided not to add a neutral on this model
Has anybody hooked one of these up using the ATS yet for home back up.haven’t seen any literature or information on which ATS is compatible or has duromax just not come out with their own ATS yet
I haven’t seen a heard anything from them yet about the ATS.
let me contact them and ask for you
I'm currently using this parallel kit with one generator so that I'm not limited to the 30 amp built in breaker. No ATS yet, just an interlock. Duromax recently replied to me that they are developing a ATS. My guess is it will be similar to the one from Westinghouse with a couple of 20 amp outlets. I also received the pin out on the ATS connector by request, though Duromax can never tell me which connector size that is. Closest thing I can find is that it's an aviation connector, but I can never match the measurements.
@@wingloading Thanks for sharing this with us
It would be great if Gavin could get us some info on how to wire the ATS. I found the plug it's a (Aviation Connector Plug 8-Pins Male & Female Panel Metal (GX20A-8P)
@Gavin’s Garage It would be great if Gavin could get us some info on how to wire the ATS. I found the plug it's a (Aviation Connector Plug 8-Pins Male & Female Panel Metal (GX20A-8P)
@Gavin's Garage Hey Gavin. Great channel. I just subscribed and watch several of your videos. I'm hoping you can help answer my question on this exact same setup? I just purchased both of these Generators and the Parallel Kit from Duromax yesterday. I'm replacing my Westinghouse 15,000 dual fuel. Here's the question. currently I am running a Nema 14-50P to a receptical that feeds into my entire panel. So when the grid goes down I am able to power my entire panel (after disconnecting from the main of course)
The impression I get with this Parallel Kit is the 50 Amp Plug will only provide 240 Not 240 / 120. Is that correct? If that is the case, what am I able to do in order to run my panel as I do with my Westinghouse? Thank you so much for answering my question! PS. Happy to send a gift or donation for your help with this one.
Hey TW
Sir what was the combined output?
The combined output of the paralleled units were 18000w starting and 15200w running at 240v each leg carries 7200w.
can you measure the voltage on the 50 amp parallel plug.
It’s 120/240 on the parallel kit
Its 240 only, there is no neutral wire running to the parallel kit so no 120volt from the parallel kit plugs
What better the DuroMax 16000 Watts for $4999.00 or 2 of Duromax 9000 watts for $2599.00 Each $5198
I would go with the single one for me.
@GeneratorReviews ok thanks