Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (Again) - Part 2: Of Yarn and Craft
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 เม.ย. 2022
- Canvas Curse is better than Power Paintbrush.
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Ted's out here saying Europe needs to get better alternate titles and then starts talking about a game called "Yoshi's Touch & Go"
Yoshi’s Universal Gravitation at least sounds so goofy it’s good
@@agentblackbird9435 yeah but it’s still a terrible name
idk what game that’s even supposed to be
Yoshi's touch and go in Europe thankfully isn't called "yoshi's physical contact and proceed"
The next yoshi game better be something related to money, so Europe can call it yoshi's tax evasion
25:09
The 'Barrel of Doom' for the Kirby series right here. There's good ways to do callbacks...and then there's bad ways. This is the latter.
Yeah, this was like the only Crystal Shard in the game that puzzled me completely when I played this as a kid. I mean, I know you had to break down a Stone + Cutter door first, so they may have assumed you need that power to reach the Crystal. It was still really unfairly cryptic, though.
It's bizarre because the game tells you exactly what power you need but it never telegraphs how Rick actually works
Most people: "Oh look, they gave Kirby a lightsaber, like in the Phantom Menace."
Me: "It's the Gelgoog's beam saber!"
Ah I see you're fellow spacenoid of culture as well.
Rest in peace Darth Maul bit.
Yoshi as a series never really stood out like Donkey Kong and Wario. While the latter two created their own style, lore, and styles of gameplay, Yoshi is MUCH more in the confines of the greater Mario series. And for much of the series history, they struggled to branch out from what SMW2: Yoshi's Island established(New Island being the most egregious example). It's a shame, because when Yoshi is good, he's REALLY good! There's a lot of potential with Yoshi, but they don't seem to really know what to do with the green dino.
Yoshi's Universal Gravitation is the scientific name
The Posh Breakdown of Yoshisaur Munchakoopas' Universal Gravitation
Ah, the BSC "Of Mice and Men" part naming scheme. Nice to see you again. How're the kids?
When I was little, I thought the third level of Rock Star was a filled with snow instead of sand. So I always called it the snow-desert. I know better now, but the idea of a snow/desert hybrid stage sounded really cool to me.
A level based on that viral video of snow falling on a sand dune would probably look very nice. Not a bad idea, actually
I mean Antarctica is technically a desert it's the driest place in the world.
Well there’s always the volcano/ice age combo which has been done before.
I realized during MasaeAnela's playthrough that the core of Aqua Star is shaped like a coastline wave breaker! How clever.
Yknow
I haven't watched her playthrough of 64, but I did notice that in this episode, which is cool
Probably because I finally learned what a wave breaker is with New Horizons
26:59 everyones audio cut off till 27:07 where I hear Ted laugh for no reason
They were all trying to end the part by being quiet. But Ted held off on ending it to be cheeky.
The Void suddenly consumed all of them, until at last it gave a psychotic cackle, signaling its satisfaction at its victory.
@@bluesbest1 Ted is the Void? We really need to stop picking on him, then.
@@smashmaster521 Nah, he can't reach us. We're definitely safe and nothing bad well happen to us.
Damn. I expected that phantom menace edit you guys did on the original to be redone here, one of the funniest parts of the original commentary lol
Meanwhile Star Allies might be my second fav after Robobot.
In response to the opening rant, Europe sometimes gets a gem or two when they rebrand video games.
For instance, Crash's first game on the GBA is called Crash Bandicoot XS.
Crash Bandicoot Xylophone Saxophone! :D
Extra Small
*insert Crash playing the xylophone and the saxophone*
Epic Yarn was one of those games I knew I would love just by the cover, and I did, I absolutely adored it from start to finish. Mindlessly easy perhaps, but I loved all the overly cutesiness and all the fun ideas that could only work BECAUSE it was a crafted world, like pulling a bridge closer to you by pulling a string, or revealing a secret behind a piece of fabric that you pull off. Such clever ingenuiety.
Hearing Ted’s musical opinions has always been fascinating.
When Ted says that the song is like "slamming on the instrument" you know it's good, same goes for that Kirby 64 remix in Robobot
probably the closest I've ever felt to someone sharing my musical taste which is probably why nobody I know agrees with me lol
I still have a soft spot for Kirby's Epic Yarn. I kind of first got into Kirby because of Super Star Ultra, so I wanted a new Kirby game when Return to Dreamland was coming out. I asked for it for Christmas, but I got Epic Yarn instead. I didn't hate it. The game may be pretty easy, but I do like the unraveling gimmick. Plus, some of the boss fights have some great songs. Forgotten Land has some great songs in it as well.
I got excited hearing John mention "Perfect Strangers," thinking that he was referencing the Deep Purple song/album, not knowing it was also the name for a sitcom.
My favorite theme from forgotten lands is "through the tunnel" it really makes you feel like you're on a grand adventure, plus for me personally, reminded me of my many treks through great cave offensive
Yeah, Yoshi has had it rough as a Nintendo franchise. Part of it was that Nintendo kept giving the Yoshi games to third-rate developers like Artoon and Arzest. Yoshi Topsy-Turvy is a pretty awful game. Yoshi Island DS and New Yoshi Island are just worst versions of the original Yoshi's Island. However, Good-Feel did bring us Woolly World which is definitely one of the better Yoshi games.
18:23 Thank you, Antdude! I thought I was the only one!!!
The main sticking point for Star Allies is that its quality fluctuates throughout the experience. The main story is similar in quality to Squeak Squad: not terrible, but its new elements don't have enough impact and almost everything else has been done better (co-op's probably the best of any main Kirby platformer though). On the other hand, the post game is fantastic (after the updates at least): the game just starts firing on all cylinders with the characters, modes, difficulty, references/callbacks, and lore. I loved the post game so much that I can't bring myself to call Star Allies bad, or even mediocre, though I wouldn't blame anyone for being a bit let down by the initial release.
i would put star allies above some kirby games simply because of the dream friends, playing as those characters was tons of fun
Perfect Strangers would be a great idea for a point-and-click adventure game, which is also a genre aiming to make a comeback.
Interesting fact about Perfect Strangers, without THAT show we probably wouldn’t have gotten Family Matters. Yeah Family Matters is a spinoff. Harriet Winslow (the mom in Family Matters) was originally a supporting character who was an employee at the hotel the main characters worked at.
Yup. Harriet was the elevator operator in Perfect Strangers, as I recall. Without Perfect Strangers, there would have been no Urkel. Not sure if that is a good or bad thing. 😅
No one tell Ted "Yoshi's Universal Gravitation" is the original Japanese title.
You just did, Suzie.
I think yoshi's story, island DS, and crafted world are all "all right enough" games, just not on the level of most other Nintendo platformers (until you go 100%)
I know it makes it stand out more but I low key miss the yarn look from the early wooly world trailers. The 2d yarn Yoshi looks so goddamn cute
Fun fact, in beta screenshots the pyramid (despite seemingly being the same black one from dream land 3) was going to be blue because evangelion
Star allies main game is definitely one of the weaker Kirby main games, but as a longtime kirby fan, I found that A. It's really fun to see all the stuff from past games come together for one last 2d game for a while (from characters to music to story, even if it did take free post launch updates) and B. Guest star and arena setups have a LOT of replayability. Probably still my second least favorite of the kumazaki 2d quadrilogy but very fun regardless. It's also fun to see how stuff has been incorporated into forgotten land like the new intro to dedede's theme or LORE
I find super star's seperate modes as a concept enjoyable if you consider the modes to just be seperate worlds with one really boring treasure hunt in the middle and slight gimmicks in the other worlds
Welp, casual forgotten lands spoilers! And yep, I can't unhear perfect strangers for the Kirby theme thanks to Johnny's free riders review. Also forgotten land's soundtrack definitely took a second listen to sink in but even still, I feel like I can name relatively more bangers from most other modern games besides maybe the flagship Kirby games. Could partly be me being a whore for nostalgia remixes but still
Uhhhh, did someone cut out at the end or was that intentional awkward silence
Id like a Yoshi game that DOESN'T have Kamek or Baby Bowz as the villain again.
Create someone new for Yoshi to fight.
(Poochy can stay, he makes me laugh)
@@Mekboy_ComputerMonster GODDAMN IT, POOCHY!
That Perfect Strangers comment reminds me of the French theme for Sonic Movie 2 called Speed Life. It uses the chorus of "Somebody's Watching Me".
King Dedede's theme in Forgotten Land is straight fire.
Best rendition of the theme? Well, in terms of "in a Kirby game", absolutely but, in absolute, I think the Brawl remix is still just a smidge better but it's like comparing a 9/10 to a 9.5/10
Dedede's theme in Forgotten Land is the top tier of Dedede theme remixes.
I love how the art style and graphics quality of this game make King Dedede look like a stoic, tough-as-nails kind of guy.
Also, I just noticed that when Kirby uses the single-level slice in this game, he throws his body off of himself.
Probably why they used this design as a basis for his appearance in Forgotten Land
I've never heard of this Cutter variant being called Slice, but it DOES work on a few levels
@@jaredhebert942 Yeah, sorry, I'm not that familiar with Kirby.
@@christopherwebster6354 no worries
Canvas Curse is... alright. I didn't think it was THAT bad barring the medals locked behind switches found in later levels
Rainbow Curse was better I felt. Epic Yarn was a fun time for me, I have good memories of it.
Also, the Black Pyramid continuing to be a weird but still cool level concpet.
I'm definitely forgiving of Origmai King. Honestly... it was the most fun I had with paper Mario. I *like* the older titles don't get me wrong, but OK I found actually fun.
Yeah, Canvas Curse was decent. It was kind of interesting and I have to give them some credit for making pretty good use of the touchscreen.
Yeah I feel Rainbow Curse did what Canvas Curse did better.
I got annoyed with it halfway through, but that mainly had to do with the auto scrolling.
I will fight anyone who says 64 did power combos better than Star Allies.
I'm an episode behind on this, but I feel roughly the same way about the Dark Matter Trilogy(Dream Land) style vs the Adventure/Super Star style games, but I think I pin pointed why:
The copy abilities in Adventure style games are more numerous, yeah, but even still, the abilities themselves are...snappier, quicker, more mobile.
The Dark Matter trilogy has 7 or 8 copy abilities per game, but makes up for that with Animal Friend/combination systems, but vertually EVERY copy ability has wind up, stops you dead in your tracks, or are in general slow and immobile.
With Burning/fireball being the lone exception...IF it's just the standard version...and even that has it's drawbacks, like a long vulnerability window after the burning wears off, or a need to "recharge" cause it loses "fuel" if you spam it.
It's virtually the same difference between Classic Castlevania whip strikes and Symphony of the Night Crissagrim buttery smooth motion.
This is in part, I'm sure, due to the Dark Matter copy abilities and variations/combos being designed to solve puzzles first: how to use the specific ways they function to break specific blocks to get rainbow drops/heart stars/crystal shards, vs
Adventure style copy abilities designed to be offensive/defensive MOVESETS, with puzzles made for TYPES of powers, like fuses lit by fire based attacks, hard blocks or posts for powerful hard hitting attacks, grass or ropes for being cut by bladed attacks, etc, with many copy abilities having multiple options for covering those aspects.
But more importantly, the attacks rarely stop you in your tracks, unless you need to aim or charge up, and those are usually optional elements to the attack, they often feature a "dash attack" that bursts you forward, or in general are ABOUT moving faster somehow.
Long story short:
Dark Matter Trilogy is a slower paced, play it safe to bring a solution to a puzzle style where every action needs to be considered in advance.
Adventure style is fast paced "go in guns a blazing like a hyper active child that was just handed a toy lightsaber" with more emphasis on how many different ways you can get from point a to point b while devastating any poor creature that happens to get in your way.
That said, I love both styles, because Kirby, but prefer the Adventure style.
Say what you will about Star Allies, but it give us way more lore than any other Kirby game. Including Kirby’s origin.
Wait, what? Since when did that game show Kirby's origin?
@@jlev1028 the secret boss
@@jlev1028 Look at a Lore video for Star Allies. People did a bunch of research to find this stuff. It’s heavily implied that Astral Void/Void is what Kirby reincarnated from, after being hit with high doses of positive emotion.
To be fair... Knowing Kirby's origin changes nothing.
"Kirby...is a Jolly Fellow!"
I'm glad others share my view on the Yoshi series. Woolly World good.
just counted and i'm pretty sure there's 36 kirby games, and at the current rate of kirby games we will finally have Kirbies 1-63 in July of 2045
The Wondaria Dream Festival Parade is still my favourite theme
Favorite stage theme: Welcome to Wonderia.
Favorite (Original) boss theme: The Raging Lion Roars.
Favorite (Remixed) boss theme: Roar of Dedede.
Favorite theme in general: A Full-Speed farewell from the New World.
Top 10 themes
#1. Wondaria Dream Festival Parade
#2. Fecto Elfilis Battle
#3. Roar of Dedede
#4. New Adventure
#5. The Raging Lion Roars
#6. New World
#7. A Smelly Beast (Boss Theme)
#8. The Wastes Where Life Began
#9. Enter the Fiery Forbidden Lands
#10. Through the Tunnel
I feel like the problem some have with Epic Yarn is that is a bit too easy which is why the 3ds version added a "hard mode" and as well a health bar and copy abilities sorta is just different hats to use and as well two minigames too with Meta Knight and King Dedede.
The problem with that is that the copy abilities just make the game even easier and the only thing that hard more does is have an annoying little Devil appear every now and then to pester you. Imagine trying to play Kirby while having a fly constantly buzzing in your ear and that’s exactly what hard mode is.
Funny thing about the Spark + Cutter ability is that in the Nintendo Power vol. 134, they said: *"To get all Darth Maul on enemies, press B to brandish and wield a double-edged light saber. Press Down to put it away."*
Aww... a shame you couldn't hire John Williams for this revisit :( 15:40
I am getting such a nostalgia rush seeing this game and music again yet a part of me is screaming every time ted has taken damage.
Remember, the first numbered Final Fantasy that Europe got was FF7
18:15 so, that's the theme that played during the (freeze frame) free riders segment of johnny's sonic racing games video?
Yep.
That talk of burning rng with dust remind me of gba Fire Emblem. You could burn rng by moving a unit's movement cursor, letting you rig hits at low hit rates, or perfect level ups in spite of someone's growth rates.
Fe Gba speedruns are absolutely mesmerizing to see for this exact reason
Jagen unit goes brrr
20:00 In my opinion what make a soundtrack instantly likeable is when they use music for "stock" situations. Some OSTs try too hard to make a music versatile/dynamic (for example a level will have four themes depending on the setpiece you're in) but at that point it isn't easy to make it memorable as opposed to let's say, this game, where you're in a world and that world has one theme that is repeated multiple times and only changes in specific situations. THATS why old OSTs were catchy... unless it's like Ant said, where if a song is powerful, it WILL stick.
Epic Yarn is one of the hardest and most difficult Kirby games to 100% in it.
Holy shit. I only just heard Perfect Stranger's opening theme from memes and I too couldn't stop thinking about it when I heard Forgotten Land's theme song.
Hat in Time is closer to GC graphics and my potato can barely run it on the lowest settings. Meanwhile, TTYD and Return to Dreamland run perfectly fine on Dolphin.
Well, Hat in Time still has pretty high fidelity graphics to render, it's just stylized to look like Banjo Kazooie/Wind Waker GC
ok thank God! I thought I was crazy always Hearing "STANDING TALLLLLL" in forgotten land
Watching Kirby trance vibe all the way up the boss elevator was great.
3:52 Kirby! Don’t go to Ursula’s lair!
My younger brother loved Epic Yarn enough to 100% it. Twice. Once on the Wii and also Extra-Epic Yarn on the 3DS.
Since you guys brought up n64 and ps1 graphics I felt it appropriate to bring up Sonic Storm, a fan game that is meant to be "what if sonic was on ps1"
The track that stuck out to me the most on my first run of Forgotten Land was actually Fast Flowing Waterworks, probably my favorite stage theme in the whole game.
Toad in the Hole is not a British sex slang thing, just a very Britisn meal - t's sausages served in a Yorkshire pudding
For the talk about PS1/N64 graphics making a comback: Have you ever heard of the Haunted PS1 Demo Disc? It's a series of game demos that are usually horror related that are all in the ps1's style.
Don't talk shit on Epic Yarn! That game is so goddamn sweet and adorable and lovable and joyful and creative that I don't care that it's easy!
When I play it I'm way too busy savoring the sweetness overload to be bothered one bit by the difficulty.
I loved Kirby’s epic yarn as a kid playing it with my sister. Honestly I think it was great for kids
honestly i only recently found out the ratchet and clank games didn't have the pun titles over here in europe and i felt so burned. we were robbed of up your arsenal
I enjoyed Epic Yarn, but like Johnny I have only experienced it with co-op. Playing it with my sister was a blast.
Ted vs UK is back
B to the O to the S to the T to the O to the N-
(Want some Clam Chowda?)
Thank God Europe didn't call Return to Dreamland Deluxe "Kirby's Adventure Wii Deluxe"
That recent horror game that plays like Resident Evil is probably Alisa. 90s style horror game using PS1 graphics basically. I recommend it!
kinda sad that there wasn't an updated edit to this part
I thought epic yarn was just ok
Ted, how can you say European video game titles always suck compared to North American ones when Shadow of Memories exists? Yes, that's also what the game is called in Japan, but it still counts. Shadow of Destiny makes the "game" (which is 90% walking and 5% traveling through time) sound more badass than it actually is while also sounding nonsensical. The main character's trying to rediscover his memories, therefore the majoritarian title is better.
I AM SO GLAD I THOUGHT OF STANDING TALL TOO
Well, honestly, I thought of Johnny's Free Riders review. *Edited and Reviewed by this Numbnuts*
OMG! I’m playing Salmon in Splatoon 2 and the minute Lewis said ‘Something’ I got a dude named ‘something’ in the party
I know ppl think of epic yarn as easy, but 100% that game is way harder than it looks.
Epic Yarn is a one trick pony of a game. If you like what it is, you will love it. If you don't... then you'll find it boring.
So, am I the only one who thought of Johnny's "Sonic Riders" video when playing "Kirby and the Forgotten Land?" You know, the one with him vs the Kinect?
Ex Zodiac is more like a modernized take on the SNES’s FX chip graphics, but it is another Low poly 3D indie game and it looks fantastic. I’m going to start developing my indie game very soon (I graduate from Game Design college next week!) and it is gonna be lowpoly Saturn/PS1 3D graphics, and I’ll be giving you guys a sponsored early demo of it whenever it is ready.
Yeah, I may have been spoiled by Forgotten Land. At first I was really disappointed by how simplified the move sets were for each ability, along with the fact there were only 12 (two of them being virtually useless in my eyes), but after thinking about it, I realized that actually worked in its favor. In the modern Kirby games, there are like 20+ abilities, many with a bunch of moves you’ll likely never use intuitively. I always found myself having to pause to see how to do this one thing and it does get irritating because sometimes I look at a move, then I unpause, and then I immediately forget and have to pause again to check. In Forgotten Land, each ability is viable (though of course hammer and sword are the champs for cheesing the arena), but I never find myself dreading using any one ability. In the previous games, there were abilities I was interested in using, but they just weren’t that good. Or there were abilities I just didn’t want to use (whip, spear, and staff come to mind).
I do want a bit more complex movesets when they do this style again. Maybe not too crazy because I agree, some moves just suck (Doctor and Circus come to mind from robobot), but Fire got gutted when you compare the moveset to what it had since superstar.
Kirby 64 is nostalgic
I loved Woolly World so much I double dipped.
7:55 saying something is made for kids as a way to justify poor quality is a bad excuse for literally everything, not just games.
*COUGH* animation! *COUGH*
_Yoshi’s Universal Gravitation_ sounds like an edutainment game.
Ted, "Yoshi's Universal Gravitation" is also the Japanese title of the game. It's not exclusive to Europe. In fact, I'm pretty sure that it was you Americans who felt like you had to change it to "Topsy-Turvy".
If you want an indie game with a PS1 aesthetic, Psilosybil is looking really promising on early access.
4:00 is it bad that I want them to make a Metroid game where you play as a cutesy plushie version of zero suit samus whose stun gun works like the yarn whip from Epic Yarn?
I will never understand Ted's logic behind wanting smaller movesets.
You never HAVE to look the moveset up. If you wanna just breathe fire when using fire, you still can. All that shit is optional.
The combat in Forgotten Land is overall a step down from Star Allies, though the dodge and Witch Time make up for it.
Forgotten Land is great, but they should just lean all the way in next time. They clearly wanted a more in depth combat system with Dodges and counters but forgot to put in movesets to utilize them.
Outside of Sword and Hammer, which have robust enough movepools
Leaning all in isn't what they wanted to do if they simplified everything besides Sword.
And they chose the simplest abilities that actually would be useful in 3D space.
@@SonicmaniaVideos yes, I'm aware.
I'm saying I would rather they leaned in like Star Allies did
Sin megami tensei and persona games are on sale on 3DS for like 50% or more they're great deals
And you can still add credit card funds until may, but also use prepaid eshop cards until August
15:59
There's your star wars reference for you "old lp geeks"!
This os some good gameplay
Due to a technicality, mentioning the "worst" Kirby game needs an asterisk that clarifies you aren't talking about the spin-offs.
It's not clear within the existing context.
Hey, we got a better name for Wario Land Shake It. For us it was Ghe Shake Dimension.
How has no one mentioned Bloodborne Kart?
Star Allies actually has my favorite final boss in the series
Void is like some fucking Kingdom Hearts shit and the L O R E OH MY GOD
1:13 As much as I disagree with Ted argument on the name changes for the European release of various games, I do agree with Ted that Nintendo of Europe needs to shut down, but for a different reason, mainly because of Nintendo’s floundering past in most European countries during the 8-bit and 16-bit eras, save for the Game Boy.
I feel strange when people say Epic Yarn is too easy because for me(that an a compulsive completionist) tryinh to get best score in all stages and Bosses is absurdly chalenging going through the game is Very simple and Basic but maximize the beds and genstones and not getting hit is Very hard, plus falling on a pit is almoçar restart stages worthy so many gens you lose in the process, trying score Platinum medals is painfull and actually hard
Also i picked Star Allies up after all the Updates and It quickly became MT favorite Kirby game(its not the best) Guest Star with all the dream friends brings so much game to the game and doesnt matter to me How easy It is bacause It has until now(forgoten land included) the most Fun and complexo combat in the séries plus the lore the main game, plus the Ultimate Choise plus heroes in another dimention brings to the table that expands even prévious games, It was too much for me, its a Very good game that people dont forgive because of its launch state, its not that way anymore, its never going to bê that way anymore, get over It the game is Very good
John, "Man, this song is great. Too bad I can't unhear this shit."
As a FFXIV player....Big soft tacos, big soft tacos, so big.
Just like Totinos with Reala's theme from NIGHTS, that theme has now been ruined.
Kirby and the Perfect Strangers.
Question;
Even though we assume he says it thanks to the anime, but have we outright heard Kirby say "Poyo" in a Kirby game before?
(Cause the most I've heard from him is either "Hai" or giggles or screams)
In Kirby: Mass Attack, he says “Poyo”. Sure, it came _after_ the anime, but it *is* a game where Kirby clearly says “Poyo”.
@@JJ_R Is poyo just some made up "word" for Kirby to exclaim in the anime?
@@lordkaijux5262 Yes. Sakurai, who had a hand in the development of the anime, wanted Kirby to be _mostly_ mute, to keep him endearing. So, to have Kirby verbalize his emotions without speaking, “Poyo” and variations of the _word_ was invented for that purpose.
Also, apparently, Kirby also says “poyo” in Epic Yarn.
@@JJ_R I think he says "poyo" in Kirby Mass Attack if I'm not mistaken.
@@lordkaijux5262 Yes, he does. That’s why I pointed that out in my first response comment. Is it invisible to you? (I’m honestly asking, no BS)
1:03 Hey, I liked Rainbow Curse. What's wrong with it?
15:41 What the heck?! No special edits, no John Williams music (I’d settle for a pseudo variant), we don’t even get to see the Combo gained in this! Worst Commentary ever, 0/10!
here’s a wee thang about morpho knight sword i found since there was stuff in this video about forgotten land movesets being quite small
hold guard then hold attack and release in the air or on the ground
you get morpho knight’s sound wave attack and ghastly face attacks respectively. they do tons a fuckin damage too
If you charge up the sword while Dodge rolling you get the teleport animation which helps you in a tough spot with the butterfly trail.
@@u.dplaythroughs8486 oh shit neat
If anyone wants an example of games coming out with ps1 graphics, Alisa is a stellar looking one.
N64 and PS1 games get a lot of shit now, but I'm totally for seeing a revival of their art and gamefeel. The BloodBorne Demake is an example of what more devs should try. It gives you a really faithful recreation of playing a 20fps PS1 game on a CRT, but also gives you the option of playing it at 1080p 60FPS.
13:30 Triple Deluxe is also down there
The powers in Forgotten Land are weird. Why is Sword the only one that replaces the slide with an actual attack? Why can I only use Fire's fireball move while I'm in the air? Why did they get rid of Ice's midair attack, making the whole power useless? Why do I need Galaxia to shoot sword beams when Sword could do that naturally since Return to Dream Land? Why is Bomb so weak now? Why does Sword have 500 moves but everything else has between 1 and 3?
Ignoring Return to Dreamland onward...using Slide with Sword since Kirby's Adventure has made Kirby do the Sword dash.
There's no dash-run, using Burning in mid-air (while moving) is the only way this would realistically work without just making it inconvenient. Jumping isn't inconvenient.
Ice's Midair attack is useless in 3D, whatever use someone had for it in the 2D games is now gone in favor of it just more effectively still shooting Ice normally and not having to be too close to enemies.
Sword can't shoot beam...I wonder if that's why ability upgrades are a thing, that idea to make abilities better or different had to come from somewhere.
Bomb being weak...again seems to encourage the upgrading aspect, the chain bomb is suppose to carry it, otherwise it would have to be overpowered in another game.
Sword has 5 attacks, with the 3rd upgrade having 2 more. Since the 3rd upgrade is the secret OP weapon...it makes sense to give it more attacks to make it feel special. And with all the abilities they chose for this game, sword had the easiest moveset to implement and actually make useful for 3D space. They can experiment more with a new game, since someone made note of how the 3DS Kirby Battle Royale game makes use of 2 buttons to do attacks...
It's not that weird.
@@SonicmaniaVideos Ice's midair attack wouldn't be useless in 3D. It hits 360 degrees around Kirby horizontally. If Hammer's midair attack isn't useless in 3D, neither is Ice's.
EDIT: It also allows Ice Kirby to attack without slowing down, which neither of Ice's attacks in Forgotten Land allow for.
If it's any consolation, you can actually use Fire's fireball attack when grounded by pressing Ⓑ + Ⓐ while moving (and I assume Ⓨ + Ⓑ for the other control scheme). I think Weapons Shop Waddle Dee might explain it, but it's easy to miss
@@matthewgarcia6056 Thanks, that'll help.
Like I said, many 64-bit games look visually pleasing so it's understandable why people would want to make indie games based on that era, but Atari graphics are objectively ugly all across the board. You'll never going to see anyone emulate the extremely blocky vague shapes of the '70s and early '80s even if they have nostalgia for that era.