my lord but RPM does not seem to have been a design consideration! seems like such a waste imo. i'd love to see a huge single cylinder, but with a balance shaft or a dummy cylinder like ducati's supermono so it can rev properly
@@gibbogle I'll never forget my uncle calling us over to his house so he could proceed to brag about his 74 inch Harley-Davidson police bike that he bought at a police auction and it punted his ass over the fork when he didn't set that pedal right and it kicked back 🤣 He didn't keep it very long.
When bombadier/ Can am were developing the ds650 they were originally designing it with a kick starter but had issues with the automatic decompression and supposedly some legs were broken and then designed it be electric starter only on it
When he tucked in I started dying laughing! I couldn't hear what he was shouting at the fella in the sidecar, but it sounded like "SIX POINT FOUR MILES PER HOUR!!" 😅😂 Not even fast enough to mess your hair up! 😂
These bikes are actually not motorcycles, as much as machines for breaking right legs, and causing concussions, when starting one without a helmet. What a challenge.
I think it must've only been push-started like in the video. It was a novelty, not a legitimate bike. That said, a LOT of people (myself included) have been terrified and/or injured by 500cc 2-stroke singles. I was lucky, being flung onto my face was the worst I got, haha!
@@patrickbodine1300 Well sure, but if a 500 will break your ankle, surely even a compression-released 2,000 would be as bad or worse, right? I genuinely don't know, I've only ridden 250 or smaller 2-strokes and 4-strokes with electric start.
Gotta admire his dedication to worthlessness. It's not even a solution to a non-existent problem ( Series 80 1911 ) At least it does prove one theory. You can't polish a turd.....well done sir !
This design is highly practical as it avoids unnecessary clutter, weight and complexity, such as instrumentation. Forget the old-school tachometer. You can just count the revs out loud as you ride.
A dream bike for me, i can imagine chewing miles, 70mph at a time @500rpm. Just a chilling experience. The Mono has a magic to it that makes it feel more mechanical and archaic, comparing it to a sophisticated twin or more with less vibrations. IDK I'll try it.
I had the B44VS with a high comp piston. It nearly threw my mate over the bars. 😀 Whereas, I always made sure it was safely past TDC before kicking. (Electronic ignition helped)
Didn't those old Beezers have ignition advance and retard for starting? I seem to remember a mate who had a B31 which had a lever on the bars for advance/retard? If you didn't retard it before kicking it over, you risked breaking your ankle. Maybe it was an option or only fitted to pre-unit engines, but the Victor 441 and the Starfire 250 would certainly have benefitted from it.
@@125brat Well, you are exactly on the right track but just a tiny bit off. My Victor 500 (B50T) has a little trigger on the handle bar that pulls a cable going to the cylinder head. The lever on the head the cable is hooked to lifts the exhaust valve a bit. Then, you bring it up to approach Top Dead Center with the Kickstarter and pull that decompressor to get right at TDC. Then you jump as high as you can and about half way down kick the living stuff out of it. I only had mine hurt me once but I never forgot it.
@@125brat I think you’re right - That was only on the pre-unit engines. And yes, it would have been very useful on the larger cc or higher compression engines. I fitted electronic ignition which must have helped. It certainly gave reliable starting and smooth acceleration. 🏍💨
When I was young, and that was a long time ago, I owned a Matchless 600cc single, called a Matchless Typhoon. Once while starting it, I left the timing to far advanced, and it fired early throwing me completely off the motorcycle. Fortunately, I had it on the center stand. I can imagine the damage this thing could do to a person trying to kick-start it.
Biggest single cylinder motorbike perhaps, but not the biggest single cylinder engine in the world by a long stretch. The Otto is a very impressive single-cylinder, stationary, natural gas engine and is the largest remaining single-cylinder engine we know of in the world. It weighs about 25 tons and the Deane pump weighs 20 tons. The engine has a 21 inch bore and a 30 inch stroke, which yields a displacement of 10,391 cubic inches, or approximately 170 liters. Its nameplate rating is 175 hp at 180 RPM. When operating at these conditions the engine produces over 5100 ft lbf of torque.
You probably meant the biggest motorcycle single cylinder engine in the world, because as far as I know, one of the biggest must be the Lanz Bulldog with a 10.6 L single cylinder two-stroke diesel
I had a 1985 Harley low rider with the 1340cc V twin. It had a stock kicker on it, THAT could break your leg, that thing could rip off your leg and beat you with the wet end....
An interesting counterpart to Allen Millyard's v-twin 5-litre machine, using two cylinders from a radial aero engine. He built it in his shed, one of several extraordinary motorcycles he's built over the years. Some are in museums, e.g., his 2300cc V12 Kawasaki, and he rides the others regularly. th-cam.com/video/I-Xr1bmbZ_s/w-d-xo.html
Cmmon Allen, ANSWER THIS GUY, SHOW HIM WHO IS REALY THE KING ENGINER IN H U G E bike engines!! ( probably reduced the compression to about 4 -- 1 and ignition timing to top dead center, or that monster, on kick starting would break his leg, AND launch his broken body half way to the MOON!!!!
Just the thought of kickstarting that thing makes my knee hurt. When I worked as dealer service technician I used to have the shop helpers kick start thumpers over 400cc because I was mean. One day a DR650R with leaking float backfired and sent that +/-150lbs shop helper for field goal. He landed on his back about 10 feet away and was slightly upset with me when he got up, but today he will tell you it was on the job training.
It sounds like hit and miss engine on idle, nothing special about the sound. But impressive take on 2000cc with single cylinder. You could count the explosions and feel them 😂
Compare that to the Rotax 650 cc injection engine, in my BMW F650CS. Why don't these men build a 1300 cc engine, combining TWO of those 650 cc machines? You'd be surprised.
Me parece fabulosa y un despropósito a la vez , 2mil cc en un solo cilindro? Creo que no puede desarrollar ni 2000rpm a fondo y creo que volaria en mil pedazos, pero igualmente me gusta mucho es un aparato diabólico y debe ser muy dificil de conducir, pero... Igualmente me encanta 😊
NSU had a reciprocating overhead cam drive which could have been used here, does anyone know please? no, looking at other websites it seems this engine has a screw gear drive.
Sounds like anything above 300 rpm would vibrate the bike to pieces.
my lord but RPM does not seem to have been a design consideration! seems like such a waste imo. i'd love to see a huge single cylinder, but with a balance shaft or a dummy cylinder like ducati's supermono so it can rev properly
@@5naxalotli can only imagine, then it might be capable of like what, maybe 1000 rpm? Its like the opposite of Vincent Foucart’s Peugeot 205.
Why do u want rpm
When you already have torque?
Imagine trying to kick it!
Next, he could just sit directly on the piston 😂
That kick starter has the potential to be a leg breaker.
For sure. I was scared of kick-starting my big brother's Norton International, and that was only 500cc.
@@gibbogle I'll never forget my uncle calling us over to his house so he could proceed to brag about his 74 inch Harley-Davidson police bike that he bought at a police auction and it punted his ass over the fork when he didn't set that pedal right and it kicked back 🤣 He didn't keep it very long.
yup, here in my country we have some old 350cc also called "leg breaker". Imagine that one
Same with Yamaha, SR 500@@gibbogle
When bombadier/ Can am were developing the ds650 they were originally designing it with a kick starter but had issues with the automatic decompression and supposedly some legs were broken and then designed it be electric starter only on it
I love the way he lowers himself over the handlebars to make it more aerodynamic, at eight miles an hour.
🤣 yooo, right??
When he tucked in I started dying laughing! I couldn't hear what he was shouting at the fella in the sidecar, but it sounded like "SIX POINT FOUR MILES PER HOUR!!" 😅😂
Not even fast enough to mess your hair up! 😂
That got me too. Leaning over to embrace butt kicking acceleration for then nothing to happen. Fascinating project through.
It has the same sound as a huge Briggs & Stratton
If he gets tired of riding it, he can use it as a shaker to mix paint. Got to vibrate like crazy.
Sounds like an old John Deere tractor, can you plow with it ?
Honestly I sometimes think of my single cylinder 125 as a tractor lol
You just described every HD big twin ever made.
fowler marshal
Only in idle...
at lower rpm's you could see the entire bike reacting to the torque reaction of the crank. No internal stresses there. Wow!
You can literally count the revs when it goes slowly down the road.
It's not the rpm but the resonances in the exhaust pipe.
360rpm is already 6rpsec or 3 explosions per second (4 stroke cycle).
every ignition 1m drive...so you can count how far you drove it...just count all bangs
These bikes are actually not motorcycles, as much as machines for breaking right legs, and causing concussions, when starting one without a helmet. What a challenge.
I think it must've only been push-started like in the video. It was a novelty, not a legitimate bike. That said, a LOT of people (myself included) have been terrified and/or injured by 500cc 2-stroke singles. I was lucky, being flung onto my face was the worst I got, haha!
I had a Yamaha DT 400 which had a decompressor operated by the kickstart. I would expect the same on a 2l motorcycle engine.
That is why you have compression release devices on such machines.
@@patrickbodine1300 Well sure, but if a 500 will break your ankle, surely even a compression-released 2,000 would be as bad or worse, right? I genuinely don't know, I've only ridden 250 or smaller 2-strokes and 4-strokes with electric start.
Alan Millyard has a 5000cc V twin from two barrels and pistons from an aireplane engine
Yes, but Alan's bike has 2 cylindres
@@vogelfreund2615and what’s 5000/2?
@@FlatBroke612 bigger yes👍. But its different classes
The potato video quality makes me think this bike has been around for quite a while now. It could well pre-date the Flying Millyard.
Its from Juni 2000 @@rockets4kids
Allen Millyard be like "hold my tea and cupcake"
Allen Millyard is mind blowingly clever. And the 'Tea and Cupcake' reference is spot on.
I clicked on this to see the Allen Millyard comment.
Not disappointed
I have seen both bike's (1000 and 2000cc) in Technik museum Sinsheim Germany.
Some of y'all gotta realise not everything is built for performance. Some people like silly absurd things, and that's ok. I'm with them.
I saw it in person and a sign next to it with technical data said: “Top speed depends on the courage of the rider”
Gotta admire his dedication to worthlessness. It's not even a solution to a non-existent problem
( Series 80 1911 ) At least it does prove one theory. You can't polish a turd.....well done sir !
This design is highly practical as it avoids unnecessary clutter, weight and complexity, such as instrumentation. Forget the old-school tachometer. You can just count the revs out loud as you ride.
The back kick from the kicker is going to be leg breaker. Hope it has a starter motor.
YEP, IT HAS STARTER MOTORS, YOU AND THREE FRIENDS. WATCH YOUR TOES!
Didnt you see them push start it?
A dream bike for me, i can imagine chewing miles, 70mph at a time @500rpm. Just a chilling experience. The Mono has a magic to it that makes it feel more mechanical and archaic, comparing it to a sophisticated twin or more with less vibrations. IDK I'll try it.
Had a BSA 441 Victor Shooting Star single that could break your leg if started incorrectly. Pass on this single
I had a Victor 500 that I somehow let kickback on me in the early '80's. My foot still hurts sometimes.
I had the B44VS with a high comp piston. It nearly threw my mate over the bars. 😀
Whereas, I always made sure it was safely past TDC before kicking. (Electronic ignition helped)
Didn't those old Beezers have ignition advance and retard for starting? I seem to remember a mate who had a B31 which had a lever on the bars for advance/retard? If you didn't retard it before kicking it over, you risked breaking your ankle.
Maybe it was an option or only fitted to pre-unit engines, but the Victor 441 and the Starfire 250 would certainly have benefitted from it.
@@125brat Well, you are exactly on the right track but just a tiny bit off. My Victor 500 (B50T) has a little trigger on the handle bar that pulls a cable going to the cylinder head. The lever on the head the cable is hooked to lifts the exhaust valve a bit. Then, you bring it up to approach Top Dead Center with the Kickstarter and pull that decompressor to get right at TDC. Then you jump as high as you can and about half way down kick the living stuff out of it. I only had mine hurt me once but I never forgot it.
@@125brat
I think you’re right - That was only on the pre-unit engines. And yes, it would have been very useful on the larger cc or higher compression engines.
I fitted electronic ignition which must have helped. It certainly gave reliable starting and smooth acceleration. 🏍💨
Nah... Lanz Bulldog has about 10.000 cc Displacement in a single cylinder
Nice bike. Allan Millard used 2 aircraft cylinders to make the 5 litre V twin Flying Millard. This is good, but I prefer Mr Millard.
2 Liters = 122 cubic inches. Piston diameter 146mm = 5.75 in. Would have a 4.7 inch stroke.
Would SURE like to see a vidio of the building of the engine AND transmission AND him KICK STARTING THAT MONSTER ( if available!!)!!!
Vibration❌ earthquake✅
It never kicks back twice: 😡 you're dead after the first kick-back!!
Definitely a briggs😂
YesS!,, unfortunately :--/
We're very familiar with this sound. All the farm land water pump, boat engines, and farmland tractor engines make this noise.
When I was young, and that was a long time ago, I owned a Matchless 600cc single, called a Matchless Typhoon. Once while starting it, I left the timing to far advanced, and it fired early throwing me completely off the motorcycle. Fortunately, I had it on the center stand. I can imagine the damage this thing could do to a person trying to kick-start it.
2:23 they are 10mph, when get aerodynamic, topspeed in 12mph
All I have to say is, there is no replacement for displacement. Wow what a work of engineering.
Thanks for posting these videos. Were you at the Sinsheim/Speyer museums in Germany lately? A lot of the bikes are displayed there.
Sounds like it barely runs. No good!
For sale:- 1 kickstarter, very good condition, only used once.
Norton Manx is the best sounding single cylinder,this bike sounds not crap,but not good either.
what about the lanz bulldog, it has a single horizontal cilinder spanning from 5,7 up to 12,5 liters
Biggest single cylinder motorbike perhaps, but not the biggest single cylinder engine in the world by a long stretch.
The Otto is a very impressive single-cylinder, stationary, natural gas engine and is the largest remaining single-cylinder engine we know of in the world. It weighs about 25 tons and the Deane pump weighs 20 tons. The engine has a 21 inch bore and a 30 inch stroke, which yields a displacement of 10,391 cubic inches, or approximately 170 liters. Its nameplate rating is 175 hp at 180 RPM. When operating at these conditions the engine produces over 5100 ft lbf of torque.
There’s motorcycle on the preview…
You probably meant the biggest motorcycle single cylinder engine in the world, because as far as I know, one of the biggest must be the Lanz Bulldog with a 10.6 L single cylinder two-stroke diesel
I had a 1985 Harley low rider with the 1340cc V twin. It had a stock kicker on it, THAT could break your leg, that thing could rip off your leg and beat you with the wet end....
An interesting counterpart to Allen Millyard's v-twin 5-litre machine, using two cylinders from a radial aero engine. He built it in his shed, one of several extraordinary motorcycles he's built over the years. Some are in museums, e.g., his 2300cc V12 Kawasaki, and he rides the others regularly. th-cam.com/video/I-Xr1bmbZ_s/w-d-xo.html
Millyard's designs are well engineered, this one looks thrown together with no particular reason.
Wonder how he balanced the crankshaft, and geared the kickstarter
Cmmon Allen, ANSWER THIS GUY, SHOW HIM WHO IS REALY THE KING ENGINER IN H U G E bike engines!! ( probably reduced the compression to about 4 -- 1 and ignition timing to top dead center, or that monster, on kick starting would break his leg, AND launch his broken body half way to the MOON!!!!
@@earlwheelock7844 In his video, it seems to start pretty easily. Perhaps, the carburettors play some part in that; he made them himself.
@@earlwheelock7844 Allen has some videos of the engine's construction, including the crankshaft.
And it's got a kick start !!! That wouldn't put you over the handlebars or nothing!
The vibration must be horrendous, the power delivery must be terribly lumpy, forget about revving to the moon like a typical motorbike engine.
Fascinating water pump sound. 😎
Just the thought of kickstarting that thing makes my knee hurt. When I worked as dealer service technician I used to have the shop helpers kick start thumpers over 400cc because I was mean. One day a DR650R with leaking float backfired and sent that +/-150lbs shop helper for field goal. He landed on his back about 10 feet away and was slightly upset with me when he got up, but today he will tell you it was on the job training.
Reminds me of what they used to say about the Panther - one bang every lamp post
There was an early car with a 2500 cc single cylinder engine. It was not overly successful!
That was a real ripper.
A Masochism Machine.
2:28 My man is full tuck when going at a jogging pace...
Me: "Oh it has a sidecar! I wonder why?"
Also me: "I see! It needs two people to push start it."
2:16.......I recall shallow oil wells in Ohio, powered with a huge single cylinder engine, built in the early 20th century, that sounded like that.
Awesome! But to be specific, there have been many single cylinder engines much larger than this, but usually they where stationary engines
A proper motorcycle factory could make 2000cc single a very functioning bike with counter balancer, proper stroke x bore and compression ratio etc.
Cheers for that.
I made that exact sound when I was 3 years old with a soup ladle and a pot. Didnt have time to build a motorcycle.
The Lanz Bulldog of motorcycles...
Once I had had an SRX600,
and sometimes kick start were difficult,
it was only 600cm3 though.
Rumour has it, he's working on a muffler.
Sir, you “heard that wrong”. He is working on a HEARING AID. Huh? You hear some people say that you get used to noise after a while.
I love single Thumper's. I have a Suzuki Boulevard S40 (650). A simple carburetted job.
Ive always fancied one of those. I love big thumpers that fire every second
telegraph pole...or so it seems.
It's sound reminds me of a poorly tuned Briggs and Stratton lawn mower engine. 3 1/2 h.p.
A kickstarter on a 2000cc engine sounds like it would enjoy sending your foot through the top of your head!
It sounds like hit and miss engine on idle, nothing special about the sound. But impressive take on 2000cc with single cylinder. You could count the explosions and feel them 😂
2:30 haha dude's hanging on like he's doing 200mph
Do a video or two on Allen Millyard, he built a 8L V10 and 5L V2 motorcycles.
That sound is incredible.😂
Like a giant Briggs and Stratton.
Imagine throwing a rod that large- be like a cannon ball! Thing sounds ridiculous, more like a snare drum than an engine!
And that's why no one builds a 2000cc single. Next topic....
I think this is cool as hell.I wonder what radial engine the cylinder came from.I always wanted a single cylinder motorcycle.
1:55 - Kinda sounds like my uncle's 1919 Rumley steel wheel tractor.
Meanwhile, im too afraid to modify my opel 1.2 OHV engine, because "I CaN'T rEv HiGH wItH A PUsh rOd EnGiNe "
Compare that to the Rotax 650 cc injection engine, in my BMW F650CS. Why don't these men build a 1300 cc engine, combining TWO of those 650 cc machines? You'd be surprised.
Sounds like a sick lawn mower.
Me parece fabulosa y un despropósito a la vez , 2mil cc en un solo cilindro? Creo que no puede desarrollar ni 2000rpm a fondo y creo que volaria en mil pedazos, pero igualmente me gusta mucho es un aparato diabólico y debe ser muy dificil de conducir, pero... Igualmente me encanta 😊
That is what you call an Uber Thumper!
lol, how loud is it ...... fantastic
Töff, Töff, Sounds like a Lanz Bulldog
i knew of a 5 litre twin motorcycle a guy in Australia or New Zealand chopped two cylinders off an aircraft engine back in the 80's
Full throttle sounds like a literal machine gun😂
She goes 8mph, red lines at 500rpm, but she could tow the fucking moon out of orbit
That is properly cool
Someone in Australia built a 5000cc vtwin bike using a merlin
Sounds a bit like a Predator 212 from Harbor Freight!
Ideal für die Landwirtschaft: zieht jeden Gülle-Anhänger!
The girls must love it.
I remember when I was learning how to kick start my TT600. Except mine was much faster... lol
2:15 Jesus, you can count the strokes in real time. 😄
That's just over kill for a motorcycle.
That's as subtle as lighting your hair on fire.
You should have a look at the 1 liter Satte Literschüssel from Brösel.
He's tucking in to stream line position when the thing is going like 10-15mph, lol.
NSU had a reciprocating overhead cam drive which could have been used here, does anyone know please? no, looking at other websites it seems this engine has a screw gear drive.
All hunched over riding like they are doing 150mph, and the bike goes by at like 10mph
3" straight pipe 😅 THUMPER, hilarious
Did he say it sounds mind blowing? Sounded more like an old lawnmower.
I want it as a v twin it would really sound good then!
That's a big thumper 😊.
Thourough demonstration of an egine force based on controlled explosions! Did he made the counterweight from Uranium?
"Such a fuel friendly bike" 😂
Bet the neighbors loved it.
it makes the earth vibrates !