Maybe it’s common sense that, that, is incorrect. I do remember that being a topic of discussion people would use but from what I’ve seen you can’t just skip them
It is a matter of state laws. For most of my life, there were no background checks for long guns in my state. That has recently changed. All the same, there are no background checks required between private individuals selling their guns. I can buy a gun and sell it to whoever I want. If it's not legal for them to have a gun, that is on them. Granted, I could be found civilly liable. It wouldn't be criminal and someone would have to file a lawsuit, where the ruling could go either way.
@@lumina1104 What state is this.........and how long is all your life? My first gun purchase was in 2003, 12 gauge pump action shotgun from Wal Mart and I had to do the background check paperwork there.
@@JoshuaMason-r6i North Carolina. I'm 45. Up until about 20 years ago, all a person needed was an ID proving that they were 18 to buy a rifle or a shotgun. No background check. The required background checks on handguns is a matter of federal law, though.
This is why I say people like the anti guns be lost in the world. Like they don’t be poking each other up in the UK lmao and gun violence is rare out there but there is a lot of violence
Don’t blame the participants, it’s the moderators job to reel it in. They have the moderator sitting among them that creates a sense that he’s not in control that’s why they talk over him a lot
@@savvycivvy5644it’s not the anti-gun ones just saying absolute non-sens and pulling random stats out of their asses, lol. It dose not matter what race was the guy Kyle shot…
I lived in California for 16 years and carried a gun. Every time I was pulled over for speeding which was a lot, I informed the officer I had a loaded weapon in the vehicle as they approached, never had 1 problem.
@@TrollingGunNutts Imagine being a cop in L.A. and walking up to a car and having that Am I going home today feeling then having the person inform you they are carrying, that removes a lot of stress and you know everything is going to be ok.
I think personally that social media added a further weight to the shoulders of the already difficult time kids are going through in our most difficult social and impressionable years….
I WAS LITERALLY BOUT TO COME IN THESE COMMENTS AND SAY THE SAME THING 🤣🤣 that and the fact that the last pro-gun woman was just “Hannah” nearly had me on the floor laughing 🤣
The thing is, if you look at countries like Switzerland, they have about one gun per inhabitant. Yes, it’s a small country, but they have a homicide rate of nearly 0, no mass shootings, and no school shootings. My point is, it’s not about the guns; it’s about the people who operate them.
@@theghoulishgay8943 That has nothing to do with the low crime rates. I live in Brazil, which by the way is one of, or the country that has the most restrictive gun laws in the American continent. But our crime rate is also one of the biggest in the entire world. Literaly, Brazil has more homicides than a lot of countries in the world that are currently in war.
Children from 0-17 are 6% of those deaths. Almost all of those deaths are in young adults 18-24, with 94%. This makes the stats skewed a lot when you add 18-24.
@@cowboyorangesoda8408 Well a large majority of people who commit ALL violent crime (not just "gun violence"), fall into those age ranges. It's a very misleading and morally disingenuous stat.
Why not just provide statistics on child only gun related deaths? Why include young adults 18-24? Gangs can provide illegal firearms to members regardless of law. Criminals are notorious for committing crimes... Why are the statistics so coarse if not to simply support the argument? It's intellectual dishonesty pervasive well beyond the gun debate, and it's a tool used to convince children during their education.
Honestly! I'm always baffled when programs don't do that. You already have the name card, why not put it up the whole time? I'm not going to remember it, but I may be curious at some point while they talk. So yeah, props to them for that!
It's going to be a sad day when you find out that the people that prepared for a disaster that you thought were you're plan leave you high and dry or you desperately become their servant willing to do anything to survive.
@@dandyosavage yep. i have family and friends who do not prepare say i am weird for being prepared while also saying they would come to me if disaster strikes. it sounds cold, but if they do not get on board before disaster strikes, they are on their own after.
Should have had Colion Noir on this panel. Dude is a lawyer and gun educator. He would've made much better arguments than anyone else on the pro-gun side.
noticed white shirt lady say “parents KNOW when their kids are messed up” they dont. jeffery dahmers dad and mother were clueless. it really depends on the family situation
I think what she went was that majority of parents are delusional and think their kids are okay when they are not, I work as a therapist and I see this all the time and it’s literally so heartbreaking.
Saying you didn’t or don’t see the need to be able to protect yourself in BROOKLYN NEW YORK might have been th most “I’ve been sheltered Ny whole life” comment I’ve ever heard. You can’t even sit in your car comfortably any more.
One of the major problems I see is that people are UNEDUCATED about guns in general. Education about use and how dangerous they can be is probably the biggest thing that is missing. We take science and math classes and health and social studies, but whether anyone likes to admit it or not, guns are a FACT and will never go away. We need public gun education.
One thing i hate about Jubilee, they clearly show a bias with how they structure the question. And really only fact checking one side, then claim it's supposed to be an equal conversation.
@donovanwilliamson825 I'm not blind clearly you might be slightly illiterate, I said they're really only fact checking one side. Witch means they did fact check both but heavily favored one side.
@@leebrock4783she wasn't completely wrong, she was in the ballpark for most of them. You can't expect people to be a computer of facts. *EDIT* after rewatching, out of like the 9 fact checks, she was only closely correct for 2 of them, the rest she was completely wrong
@@Dr.KarlowTheOctolingAll police are power hungry. The concept of policing in of itself only serves to protect the interests of the wealthy. Only the poor are policed.
That's kind of the original idea of the middle ground videos. Normal people not named Black Rambo or Patriot Barbie. Normal people unlike the Hannah who keeps listing off incorrect statistics but does it in a pretty polished presentation. You can tell by how she says "on my person" as well as talks about leaving her gun in the car to enter a government building. There's videos about how jubilee has leaned too far into the entertainment revenue aspect but inviting on provocative people who build careers off talking points. Dominic is probably the only person who should have his numbers ready given his job. On top of that, lots of guest say they talk for 2-3 hours and a fair amount gets cut.
Are you talking about the riley girl? There is no bag, they don't pay anything. Also they didn't even link any of her socials for her to profit off of.
The SAN fact check at 30:12 bothers me. She clearly said homicides not gun homicides. I think it's manipulative bringing up the wrong statistic like that.
Get a job, work harder, get promoted, stop overspending, live below your means, etc etc etc. You can buy a fine conceal carry - used, under $300. Better to have that for most your life and avoid being in a situation where you lose your life because you're too broke to spend $250 on a conceal carry. Ammo isn't that expensive, going to a gun range isn't that expensive either, even if at least once a month.
Well get this, Im was born in the US did all my schooling in the US, but I also have Dominican citizenship and currently live in Dominican Republic. Guns are legal only with a permit and they stop importing guns over 15 years ago, so a used Glock costs over USD $15,000 in DR and in the states they go for USD $500.
That's the point. By making the entire process too expensive and too time consuming for the average person to complete, Dems and Rinos keep the working and middle classes from protecting themselves. This behavior is called backdoor legislation and it's how they ban things without doing so legally.
Look at the protests from when Australia introduced gun regulations, it's the exact same arguments for the most part. It just didn't eventuate. And we can still go to ranges, hunt, own guns etc... It's just well regulated.
Yes he did... And I wished someone called him out on it when he then later started talking about holding people accountable for "mis-educating" other people on "facts".
Rather disappointed that yall don't find more appropriate speakers on the topics. Some of your participants are ridiculous when speaking. Especially on this hot topic issue
These people generally knew what they were talking about. Not perfect, but that’s kinda the point; get a group of everyday people to debate. Seems like you’re just looking to complain
I think this is important to illustrate how this is just entertainment disguised as insightful media. I dont know if this channel knows the harm they do by reinforcing incorrect information.
The raising her daughter to protect herself without needing a gun… so when the men who are absolutely capable of restraining her, grabbing her, raping her etc try to do that, how is her mental strength going to protect her? You need a weapon to properly defend yourself, especially as a female. Period.
This could be easily addressed with one simple action: Parents TEACHING kids how to properly use and respect firearms. Then you take away their curiosity and they will also respect what it can do. Done.
Justice is so infuriating. Everything he said was caring about black people being oppressed, but then wanted black people to not be able to have firearms and only for the government, who has historically oppressed them, to have those guns. He’s a walking contradiction.
Agreed when he talked about the Black Panthers carrying weapons and how that forced more gun control, I felt that was a argument on systemic racism versus guns adversely affecting black communities
@@melancholygirl7793 actually it continues to happen, things like switches on handguns have been illegal for a long time yet the police somehow are recovering more from crime scenes each year.
@@muraismybby4617 as if Mexico has zero import from other countries to the south 🤦♂️ yeah let the cartel explain where they get their guns from they will be truthful about that
No, I live outside of America. I live in germany and I trust the government. Because people don’t have such an easy access to guns. When you have a gun there are many rules how to keep the gun safe. The gun and munition need to be locked away separately and by different locks. A gun does not give you freedom if you NEED to carry a gun to feel safe. I am sorry but that is crazy. It is only in the constitution because the founding father wanted people to defend themselves against tyranny because they were oppressed by England. It is crazy how high the USA is in gun violence no other country has such high number.
@@ilikedinosaur3259so when your government goes into full tyrant mode how are u gonna defend yourself and family? With kitchen knives, shovels and rakes? Guns are in our amendments cause it's a protection and prevention for corrupt governments.
The fact checks are wrong lol her data comes from the CDC, NIJ and FBI whereas the “fact checks” come from everytown, the AAP and the University of San Francisco…
You mean bias statistics that are made by anti gun groups owned by billionare mike Bloomberg that are manipulated to drive the numbers up like labeling 18-24 year olds children ? Those statistics?
@@JoeTecmo There isn't nuance in that - it is incoherence. The nuanced take is that racist laws and policies have shaped black communities into pockets of desperation from which naturally will stem violence. The guns are not the source of that violence - the violence within the culture manifests as gun violence. Guns do not breed violence - which seems to be your position. I am very non-violent and loving yet I carry a gun on me every single day everywhere I go.
I noticed that there were multiple glaring seemingly intentionally missed opportunities to fact check the anti gun group. Seems like the fact checks should have been more balanced.
Also the fact checks against the pro gun side are proven wrong multiple times by a bit of googling. Certainly a bias on this channel. This is why America will remain divided.
The suicides with guns is insane. However... if someone wants to end their own life, they will find a way with or without a gun. It's a sad reality. Look at South Korea and Japan... Honestly.. these statistics make me sad :(
but the thing is that what the guy was saying, in the process of doing so like cutting their writ or taking pill... if in anyway they changed their mind or for some reason needed help, its not an instant death, a chance of saving them can be done, but with guns, itsn an instant
@serumbae7879 Jumping of a building is instant death...jumping in front on a train is instant death..Orverdosing is usually Guaranteed death..If u care about saving ppl..Then care about mental health..Not stripping ppl of their rights...If ppl have deciding to off themselves they will find a way...and make sure it happens.
Guns are more like flamethrowers because they don't reduce violence they make it MUCH easier to do. There are almost zero situations where pulling out a gun calms the situation down
Love how that fact check for mass shootings in gun free zones was so convenient against the pro gun debater when she was clearly talking about school shootings
I never understood why people on these don’t prep beforehand. Did they never have debates and discussions in their school classes that they had to learn how to prep for? It’s an elementary level skill
Because it's a setup, duh What other reason would you not bring someone like Brandon Herrera, Colion Noir, Garand Thumb, Demolition Ranch, etc. pretty sure they also withheld questions or gave them little time anyway. bias is clear as daylight.
@@DTreatzand the "fact" checks that include other statistics that aren't relevant to the conversation at hand to "disprove" what a pro-gun person says. Nothing new.
We defend our President...with guns, defend our Congressmen....with guns, our Governors, celebrities, sporting events, banks,factories, courts....WITH GUNS....then defend our children with a sign that reads "this is a gun free zone."......Then call someone with a gun if there is an emergency.
I don’t know or understand. They are thinking about people they don’t know or will ever meet. We all need to think about how we can protect ourselves and our families because like you said all those other people are doing it so why shouldn’t we do the same.
Pro gun didn't even say that 18-24 year olds ARENT CHILDEREN. The "fact" that gun deaths are leading cause of children, looks pretty wrong when you take out all those "children".
Agree...Jubilee posted on the screen age 0-24. separate children from young adults and 0-10 and young teens that are in gangs and the death rate would change dramatically not even accounting for mental illness.
From someone who doesn't live in the US, I can see pros and cons to both sides. Dominic comes off as the most logical and reasonable person that I could compromise with.
These people don't seem to realize that privateers were a thing. Private citizens could own their own canons and warships when the second amendment was passed. I suspect they don't realize how expensive a nuclear warhead is either lol
Also, I can point to at least 4 different multi-shot or repeating systems in use by the 1780. Three of those were utilized in some degree by military or "megacorp" security forces.
Private groups already own nukes. The manufacturers produce them for the military and give them ownership. It’s just you not allowed to have them. But also nukes in your own country against your own country is retarded.
If they wanted a real conversation they would have gotten Colion Noir on, but somehow they never get him on. Kinda weird... almost like they know their side is wrong, or at the very least way to uneducated to debate people who know anything about the topic. Also my favorite little counter to the "militia" argument, is for them to bring up arrest records or warrants for people owning guns outside of the militia after the establishment of the 2nd amendment. They don't exist for a reason.
@@williamsveen2827 well yeah…but that’s completely different. You should be able to do whatever you want with your property. Thats not what the debate is. People are all the time trying to say you can go to a gun store or show and buy a gun with no background check and that’s just not true.
@@williamsveen2827 I assume you are referring to Form 4473? If so, only a few require the following for private sales (I want to say it's less then more, but I could be wrong)
You guys gotta bring in regular people, the entire pro-gun side seems to be influencers within that space rather than normal people. It’s strange overall.
I disagree. We need people with credentials and who are well versed on the topic. Whether their credentials are note worthy is subjective, but they should not get regular people.
They present the "fact check" without any context to it. The NEJM child death study was the most blatant and the moderator just simply says "its true". Yes is true but you are not talking about the whole study since it includes up to 24 year old's. Last I check those were not children.
I worked in Corrections and did alot of research on what are the highest charges in this country. I think the anti-gun people are REALLY, REALLY, underestimating how many people, who do illegal things, have guns. Yes. There should obviously be a process on how to obtain a gun legally. But if you take away the guns from the law-abiding citizens, the non-law abiding citizens are still going to have them.
Thank you for your input and logic gathered from experience. Many people really believe that by banning firearms, everyone will automatically give up their guns and and then they’ll disappear indefinitely so that they don’t fall into the hands of the wrong people 🤦♀️
Valid argument to say that there are too many guns in the US to reverse gun violence even if banned. Also the culture would make it impossible for a clean shift. US has a different relation to guns versus Australia for example. Still its the lack of control that is the reason there are so many guns in circulation. Short term change would bring pain, but long term benefits could outweigh the negatives. Giving law abiding citizens weapons will increase the amount of weapons in used by non-law abiding citizens. I don’t think a ban would work in the us, but for argument’s sake.
@@claireglory honestly, I think there is a conspiracy around it all. And yes. Crazy things Ike mass shootings happen in other countries but it’s not big news.
Well, according to 2A, actually yeah- the point of the second amendment being written into the constitution the way it was specifically was for citizens to have the same weaponry as the military (which at the time was muskets) to avoid tyrranical rule & takeover. They didn't know that Tanks and Nuclear weapons would exist, so it's definitely a big problem that needs to be resolved because technically he's correct- that's what 2A is for, even though common sense tells you how wildly dangerous it would be for civilians to have access to weapons of mass destruction.
The problem goes bigger than gun violence, we're talking about homes that have single parent households (single mom). Fathers are important for society. They have a higher chance of preventing the degeneracy that's happening in the world in comparison to 2 parent household
I was always into guns, last year i was shot 5 times. After a 12 hour surgery and 2 more to follow and a 8 month recovery my life is different. Im still into guns, people who have guns think its a one sided deal that if you have a gun you win. If you have a gun be prepared to possibly be in a gunfight and getting shot, trust me you don't want to get shot.
@@Virtuosity109 lmao r u slow im saying just cuz YOU don’t need one doesn’t mean NO ONE needs one. Ppl need them in poor areas to defend from ppl who illegally own fire arms to use it for harm and robbery. You’ll be hard pressed to find many ppl in a poor areas telling ppl they don’t need guns. It’s like how if someone said “ driving cars is too dangerous and causes too many deaths….just use ur parents helicopter or private jet like I do. Cuz ur endangering ppl driving cars ^_^ . So ima make it illegal to own cars .”
Who tf you told you rich neighborhoods don’t get robbed you even if your rich you still need a gun it don’t matter where you live suburbs the hood rich areas you can still get robbed
justice is ridiculous. did he not acknowledge all the black organized groups that demonstrate with their guns and were not arrested. The rioters are different than protesters.
@@stanleyrojina4481 I am calling B.S., I might have believed it if he say 1, but any time I hear something along the lines of "I know multiple X that x happened to" I immediately think they are making stuff up to sound like an authority on a subject they know little or nothing about.
That guy just totally lied about purchasing a firearm and said there are states that you don't have to do a background check. That is a complete lie as all retail gun purchases are required to have a background check. That is a federal law and is punishable by prison
I haven’t made it to the part where you’re are referring to but here in the state of Texas. When purchasing firearms from a gun show a background check is NOT required. Texas literally has the biggest gun shows in the US and all you need is to have an ID. I just turned 21 last week and I went and bought 2 weapons last week. EDIT: I was incorrect
@@notj5 He said retail not private sale. In the video he mentions having to answer questions about gun safety which I seriously doubt would happen in a private sale.
Holy cow!!!! I wish I would have been on this episode. With my experience and my background I think I would have brought something different to the table. Great vod and really appreciated the interaction. I hope everyone is well and take care.
Dominic and Black Rambo remind me od the type of uncles at the cookout that would never get along, but they are both "The Cool Uncles", even with their different beliefs. Both are well spoken and civilly discussed their differences while they vehemently disagreeing. Interactions like THAT is what I love about Middle Ground.
low IQ take. thats not what anybody said. they said how do you know that having a gun in that instance would stop them pulling the trigger. two very different things.
Yes but is it the guns fault on the people behind? Getting rid of the guns won’t get rid of the violence. I mean look at Britain, their knife violence is off the charts
@@BlackRamboTV WE LOVE BLACK RAMBO. He knows more about firearm safety and who better to teach kids than their own parents? They have to learn sometime.
I used to be antigun, but now after growing up and learning how dangerous it is to be an independent woman, i am progun 100%. Sane and healthy gun owners agree there should be way more requirements to be able to purchase one. In mexico you need to file a hunter id, gun id, and...another id (can't remember well lol, I dont have guns but I am looking into it). No one should carry or buy a gun if they have not taken a proper gun class. It should be way more meticulous than getting car driving classes imo, both are just as dangerous and require high level of responsibility and at least mid dexterity. If you are not mentally ok, you should NOT be able to have a gun (at least 1 year of therapy and approval from a therapist). If you have been in jail, you should NOT be allowed to buy a gun ever again. You MUST have a dedicated well kept place to store your guns, more so if you have children... All of these things have been mentioned by progunners and I agree 100%.
@@TheKennyboy92 The UK just had a mass stabbing. That's the problem with these gun stats. They focus entirely on one weapon while pretending that people won't just pick up a different one.
It's wild to me to know that people think others who have illegally obtained a gun care about the law. People raised in safe upper class communities shouldn't have a say on others defense mechanisms who weren't as lucky when those upper class people obviously don't realize that there's a huge illegal gun trade.
Just think critically for a second though. No one is manufacturing illegal guns. So the illegal guns are logically a a byproduct of the general free availability of guns. Not advocating for any specific measures or anything, lets just be honest about where illegally owned guns come from. They start as legal guns.
He mainly was calling out logical contradictions and tried to understand what the pro-gun side were saying. I will say though, the younger black dude needed to be called out a few times and he did fail to do that tbf.
@@cubbwatchbut the way he was saying “just to clarify” and then word the pro gun sides stance into something that sounds ridiculous, but is still technically what they believe so they feel compelled to say the do agree with that kinda hyper specific thing.
maybe because a lot of the times the pro gun side people kept making contradicting statements. They’d accidentally slip up and say things that are pretty much against their own stance and not even realize
@@proof.120 We are all human my friend. Even you can end up sounding condescending in a debate setting, it's not always malevolent or intentional. Hot topics are where you exercise the most amount of tolerance, or else every statement or question starts to sound like a personal attack. I genuinely wouldn't take any Jubilee debate too seriously or personally...
You know black rambo had 2 handguns on him the entire time 😂
That’s just the ones we know of.
probably 3 haha
Lol😂😂
Naw just one big one with lots of freedom fry’s.
You already know this will be a wild one when one of the participants is named black Rambo 😭😭😭
I legit watch his videos sometimes lmao
And "Patriot Barbie"
He’s a badass 😂 watch his videos but don’t cry😅
@@saidwick Is he actually a badass or just someone posing as a badass?
That guy black Rambo he's pretty informative he has a channel on TH-cam
when that dude brought up that the black community was 80% of gun deaths and the fact check said it was 22% had me weak.
The hilarious part is that it's actually higher than 80% 😂
@@ArthurMorgan-tr6tqwhy didn’t the fact check say that
@@ArthurMorgan-tr6tq prove it
@@ArthurMorgan-tr6tqproof?
60% actually. A simple Google search can do wonders for your education.
why is there no fact checks on the guy spouting all kind of incorrect info about no background checks in this or that state
Maybe it’s common sense that, that, is incorrect. I do remember that being a topic of discussion people would use but from what I’ve seen you can’t just skip them
Because he’s Egyptian so it’s racist if they correct his “facts”
It is a matter of state laws. For most of my life, there were no background checks for long guns in my state. That has recently changed. All the same, there are no background checks required between private individuals selling their guns. I can buy a gun and sell it to whoever I want. If it's not legal for them to have a gun, that is on them. Granted, I could be found civilly liable. It wouldn't be criminal and someone would have to file a lawsuit, where the ruling could go either way.
@@lumina1104 What state is this.........and how long is all your life? My first gun purchase was in 2003, 12 gauge pump action shotgun from Wal Mart and I had to do the background check paperwork there.
@@JoshuaMason-r6i North Carolina. I'm 45. Up until about 20 years ago, all a person needed was an ID proving that they were 18 to buy a rifle or a shotgun. No background check.
The required background checks on handguns is a matter of federal law, though.
I swear, John is moderating the most controversial episodes.
Bro, blink if you're ok
he lost a bet for sure
I think he enjoys it lol 😂
And he’s horrible at it
This is why I say people like the anti guns be lost in the world. Like they don’t be poking each other up in the UK lmao and gun violence is rare out there but there is a lot of violence
Yeah, I'm surprised Gen Kimura isn't doing it anymore. John seems to have taken over the role.
They couldn't stick to the prompt for a single question.
@@colinboiTM exactly specially hearing ⚫Rambo clown keep talking about his background and his uneducated points 🤦♂️
Don’t blame the participants, it’s the moderators job to reel it in. They have the moderator sitting among them that creates a sense that he’s not in control that’s why they talk over him a lot
@@thelastgrape7510 he doesn't want to get shot
nobody ever does.
@@rasputozen poor attempt....Go sit back down, the adults are talking...
YOOOOOOOOOO NO FACT CHECK ON THIS DUDE SAYING RITTENHOUSE SHOT BLACK PEOPLE? WTF
Jubilee heavily favors progressive ideologies, nothing new 🤷🏻♂️
he didn’t say that. he was listing multiple major incidents of gun violence.
Who cares, it doesn't matter
@@DerekRuggiahe did say that.
@@savvycivvy5644it’s not the anti-gun ones just saying absolute non-sens and pulling random stats out of their asses, lol. It dose not matter what race was the guy Kyle shot…
I lived in California for 16 years and carried a gun. Every time I was pulled over for speeding which was a lot, I informed the officer I had a loaded weapon in the vehicle as they approached, never had 1 problem.
When did you get your ccw? What county?
You get pulled over alot irresponsibly. You probably shouldnt have a gun.
that is very rare. You were very lucky.
@@ychongy Just unlucky as everyone speeds in L.A.
@@TrollingGunNutts Imagine being a cop in L.A. and walking up to a car and having that Am I going home today feeling then having the person inform you they are carrying, that removes a lot of stress and you know everything is going to be ok.
The deeper question is why are these children attempting to self delete? Whats the root cause?
Precisely
Don't come in here with logic !
There not children they added 18 -24 year olds to the statistics
Public schools
I think personally that social media added a further weight to the shoulders of the already difficult time kids are going through in our most difficult social and impressionable years….
For Black Rambo PTSD is a buff, not a debuff 😂💀
He gets a high from it😂😂😂
P t s d affects a lot of us even if we don't serve in war, so please don't make fun of it.
That was an epic response
@@stormtrooperdavis6887stop making it about yourself they was just commenting on what the dude felt
@@stormtrooperdavis6887 A lot of people use humor to cope, including people with PTSD
Justice, Black Rambo, and Patriot Barbie sound like something straight out of the Boys
Its literally the most disgusting piece of our country. These fools have little education and no interest to learn more.
I WAS LITERALLY BOUT TO COME IN THESE COMMENTS AND SAY THE SAME THING 🤣🤣 that and the fact that the last pro-gun woman was just “Hannah” nearly had me on the floor laughing 🤣
Lol
I thought the same
So ur ignorant
The thing is, if you look at countries like Switzerland, they have about one gun per inhabitant. Yes, it’s a small country, but they have a homicide rate of nearly 0, no mass shootings, and no school shootings. My point is, it’s not about the guns; it’s about the people who operate them.
Also note that they have much stricter gun control laws than the US
@@theghoulishgay8943 That has nothing to do with the low crime rates.
I live in Brazil, which by the way is one of, or the country that has the most restrictive gun laws in the American continent.
But our crime rate is also one of the biggest in the entire world. Literaly, Brazil has more homicides than a lot of countries in the world that are currently in war.
Children from 0-17 are 6% of those deaths. Almost all of those deaths are in young adults 18-24, with 94%. This makes the stats skewed a lot when you add 18-24.
Thanks, I made a comment asking this very thing. Can I ask where you got this information?
That's still a lot though
@@cowboyorangesoda8408 It's also the average age of soldiers who died in WWII. 28-19 (19 the most) but you get my point.
@@cowboyorangesoda8408 Well a large majority of people who commit ALL violent crime (not just "gun violence"), fall into those age ranges. It's a very misleading and morally disingenuous stat.
Why not just provide statistics on child only gun related deaths? Why include young adults 18-24? Gangs can provide illegal firearms to members regardless of law. Criminals are notorious for committing crimes... Why are the statistics so coarse if not to simply support the argument? It's intellectual dishonesty pervasive well beyond the gun debate, and it's a tool used to convince children during their education.
Why the heck did Jubilee not get Colion Noir on this one? He's an attorney and 2A advocate. Dropped the ball bad by not getting him on this.
Was thinking the same thing
They don't want anyone that competent on the pro side.
@@cowtipper08exactly
Even James Reeves is a pro 2a lawyer. But I doubt he would have joined this shihh production
Because he is one of the best at arguing for 2A. And they know it.
Shoutout to jubilee editors for adding people’s names and stance EVERY TIME they talked! Appreciate it
Honestly! I'm always baffled when programs don't do that. You already have the name card, why not put it up the whole time? I'm not going to remember it, but I may be curious at some point while they talk. So yeah, props to them for that!
"why you never shot a gun" 4:07😂
He has over 300 guns? Well I'm staying with him if a zombie apocalypse happens lol
Id prefer whoever has the most ammo
No need. Buy yourself a serviceable long gun, handgun, and a stash of ammo and you'll be just as safe/effective as he is.
It's going to be a sad day when you find out that the people that prepared for a disaster that you thought were you're plan leave you high and dry or you desperately become their servant willing to do anything to survive.
Have you never watched his TH-cam channel
@@dandyosavage yep. i have family and friends who do not prepare say i am weird for being prepared while also saying they would come to me if disaster strikes. it sounds cold, but if they do not get on board before disaster strikes, they are on their own after.
Should have had Colion Noir on this panel. Dude is a lawyer and gun educator. He would've made much better arguments than anyone else on the pro-gun side.
that was on purpose
Jubilee knows that and would never do it
oh no how dare jubilee get an educated person to favor the other side. they wouldnt.
Yeah, but then it would make the anti-gunners look even dumber and jubilee will lose the narrative they're trying to push soooo....
They didn’t want people who can argue properly about gun rights.
noticed white shirt lady say “parents KNOW when their kids are messed up” they dont. jeffery dahmers dad and mother were clueless. it really depends on the family situation
Ted Bundy's mother kept defending him til he was being cooked. "My baby world never do these horrible things"
My comments get deleted...
Parents know… they just ignore it. And if the parent truly doesn’t know, someone else knows.
I think what she went was that majority of parents are delusional and think their kids are okay when they are not, I work as a therapist and I see this all the time and it’s literally so heartbreaking.
um no they didn't they could care less was the problem. They saw something just didn't care
Saying you didn’t or don’t see the need to be able to protect yourself in BROOKLYN NEW YORK might have been th most “I’ve been sheltered Ny whole life” comment I’ve ever heard. You can’t even sit in your car comfortably any more.
The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting. It has to do with deterring a tyrannical government/ regime
@@markhansen9735 yet 100+ countries avoid tyranny with like 5% as many guns
@@paulg6274 ... what about the ones that dont?
No, it’s about slavery.
@@Busaiowrong
And yet with so many guns the regime found a way to be tyrannical regardless of people owning firepower
The fact checker apparently didn't feel like calling out 44:38 to clarify that none of the people shot by Rittenhouse were even black?
Wasnt a fact checker... was just making sure the anti gun side didnt look too bad
And he was found to have acted in self defense..
Look, the fact checker got exhausted and worn out from fact-checking Hannah so much. Give em a break. 🙄
probably because at this point people who dont know thats false dont care about the truth.
They really like to cherry pick which things they’ll fact check. This whole thing is so bogus I can barely watch it
One of the major problems I see is that people are UNEDUCATED about guns in general. Education about use and how dangerous they can be is probably the biggest thing that is missing. We take science and math classes and health and social studies, but whether anyone likes to admit it or not, guns are a FACT and will never go away. We need public gun education.
It used to be apart of the public education back in the 50's and guess what, we didnt have school shootings
America pov.
@@sivtec Yeah we did LMFAO
I am shocked to see only this got 32 likes
People are uneducated as a general rule.
Notice how the fact check at 30:33 stated that suicides were at the highest ever recorded not just suicides with guns.
Remember y’all to stay hydrated
Thank you it's important to get adequate water in your system
Indeed
@@omotayosatuyi252 especially in this heat
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18-24 yr olds are not children they are adults. So that statistic is false
Yup that stat was intentionally misleading
Yes they use that to increase the number.
Ehh by law sure, by age, not at all, until you turn at LEAST 25.
@@thelegoonurfloor5347at 24 yo is not consider a child. Get real.
@@madride858585 18 definitely is though. That's just senior year of highschool
kyle rittenhouse shot zero black people
Everyone the same color at night lol
That's a very inconvenient fact check my friend
@@theroamingsavage8813 it's amazing what a quick Google search could do for some people lol
Even if he did, who cares, the people were attacking him
He shot a pdf file
One thing i hate about Jubilee, they clearly show a bias with how they structure the question. And really only fact checking one side, then claim it's supposed to be an equal conversation.
Big facts. Leftists are known for being morally and intellectually bankrupt. 🤷
they were fact checking both sides, are you blind?
@donovanwilliamson825 I'm not blind clearly you might be slightly illiterate, I said they're really only fact checking one side. Witch means they did fact check both but heavily favored one side.
@@djlegend2926 *which
If they are not fact checking the other side, maybe they are not saying anything wrong bud?
i can’t get over the number of times the woman in white was fact checked 💀
Yeah, Hannah was more wrong with stats than any of them.
and who is fact checking the fact checkers?
@@leebrock4783she wasn't completely wrong, she was in the ballpark for most of them. You can't expect people to be a computer of facts. *EDIT* after rewatching, out of like the 9 fact checks, she was only closely correct for 2 of them, the rest she was completely wrong
@@Jonrskittlesno lmao she said 90 percent of mass shootings occurred in gun free zones when it was 10…
@@excentrik5725 they're fact checkers, they're seeing the facts wdym, plus there would be multiple of them so there's your answer
Viewers not from US: Where is my popcorn? 😂
Pues si we, aqui nos damos de machetazos nada de mmds de pistolitas.
@@Alex-on8yunmms 😂 pinche Machetito. Plomazo en caliente
I wish I didn't have to worry about getting shot by police or stranger lol
@@cheesycarrotsoupBlessed with a Police force that usually don’t have power-hungry people working for them.
@@Dr.KarlowTheOctolingAll police are power hungry. The concept of policing in of itself only serves to protect the interests of the wealthy. Only the poor are policed.
That one girl on anti-gun side has literally no info about this topic and just came here for the bag
That's kind of the original idea of the middle ground videos. Normal people not named Black Rambo or Patriot Barbie. Normal people unlike the Hannah who keeps listing off incorrect statistics but does it in a pretty polished presentation. You can tell by how she says "on my person" as well as talks about leaving her gun in the car to enter a government building. There's videos about how jubilee has leaned too far into the entertainment revenue aspect but inviting on provocative people who build careers off talking points.
Dominic is probably the only person who should have his numbers ready given his job.
On top of that, lots of guest say they talk for 2-3 hours and a fair amount gets cut.
I think that's the whole point of having people from all kind of background With different perspectives.
There is no bag. I was on one of these, they don't pay
Are you talking about the riley girl? There is no bag, they don't pay anything. Also they didn't even link any of her socials for her to profit off of.
Which of all?
The SAN fact check at 30:12 bothers me. She clearly said homicides not gun homicides. I think it's manipulative bringing up the wrong statistic like that.
Thank you!
I never bought a gun because I saw the price tags and I’m perpetually broke.
Get a job, work harder, get promoted, stop overspending, live below your means, etc etc etc. You can buy a fine conceal carry - used, under $300. Better to have that for most your life and avoid being in a situation where you lose your life because you're too broke to spend $250 on a conceal carry. Ammo isn't that expensive, going to a gun range isn't that expensive either, even if at least once a month.
Well get this, Im was born in the US did all my schooling in the US, but I also have Dominican citizenship and currently live in Dominican Republic. Guns are legal only with a permit and they stop importing guns over 15 years ago, so a used Glock costs over USD $15,000 in DR and in the states they go for USD $500.
@@AConservativeView well we aren’t talking about outside the US. Though if you are an American citizen and can come and go, that must be your choice..
you can get a decent handgun for $200 to $300, you telling me you self defense isn't worth that?
That's the point. By making the entire process too expensive and too time consuming for the average person to complete, Dems and Rinos keep the working and middle classes from protecting themselves.
This behavior is called backdoor legislation and it's how they ban things without doing so legally.
Did they tell black rambo he was the host lmao?😂
Lol I talk a lot they had to shut me up 😂 that’s why I was quiet at end
@@BlackRamboTVlol that’s just the louisiana in you boo
@@BlackRamboTVrespect for being self aware and letting other people talk at the end though.
@@BlackRamboTV The only reason I watched this video is cuz of you! This is like celebrity edition of Jubilee 💎
@@shortyshorts11111 cringe lol
Rambo: "So you don't think you need something to protect yourself?"
Christopher: "Well, not particularly in Brokelyn" Wait, what??
1:12:45 "but I feel I'm safe walking home at night without a gun"..... "No, they will find you" 🤣
Banning guns doesn't stop criminals from obtaining them illegally, like they have been doing for years.
EXACTLY!!! They are criminals because THEY DON'T obey the law!!!
Look at the protests from when Australia introduced gun regulations, it's the exact same arguments for the most part. It just didn't eventuate. And we can still go to ranges, hunt, own guns etc... It's just well regulated.
@@thisiscaitbut your country also controls you too much. They are trying to ban gel blasters for instance.
Gun control laws work. Take Chicago. 60% of all violent crime done with guns come from the more linient states outside of Illinois.
@@jonathanolson1185 if that were the case then wouldn’t the lax gun law areas have the same issues Chicago has?
Jubilee has a show called middle ground with the most one sided research pop ups. I wish I could have been at this!
Swear bro
Because these gun nuts always lie confidently.
The girl on the pro-gun side lied, lied and lied.
Fr me too
No kidding!!!
@@MsWitchHazel666 cry baby cry
It’s notJubilee’s fault for fact checking all the lies.
Did homie just say Rittenhouse shot Black people? 😂
Some idiots still believe that narrative, heard one guy thought he was a clan member
really shows how much they know about the topic 💀 honestly i don’t know how they missed, literally everyone was watching that trial LOL
Yes he did... And I wished someone called him out on it when he then later started talking about holding people accountable for "mis-educating" other people on "facts".
@44:35. He literally did not say the thing you hallucinated thanks to your partisan narrative 😂
Well they were dressed in all black. Close enough 😂
We Definitely Should Be able to Have Whatever the Government Has! I felt that🤝🏾
If you're not fact-checking everything, don't bother
I'm half way through, I noticed that they're only fact-checking in favor of anti-guns. Doesn't make sense
When you can't even trust the facts the put on the screen. smh
Which part was false. I just started the video but I wanna know when it happens.
35:00, lol this one funnier
all those fact were anti gun
Rather disappointed that yall don't find more appropriate speakers on the topics. Some of your participants are ridiculous when speaking. Especially on this hot topic issue
Agreed. There are tons of other people who would have made this at least watchable. If your a real gun advocate, this is cringy
These people generally knew what they were talking about. Not perfect, but that’s kinda the point; get a group of everyday people to debate. Seems like you’re just looking to complain
@@Inactive414 they have menial understanding of the issue on both sides. I guess if you like ignorant peoples conversations then have at it lol
It is a social experiment, the whole point is to bring normal people not expert.
I think this is important to illustrate how this is just entertainment disguised as insightful media. I dont know if this channel knows the harm they do by reinforcing incorrect information.
“A stab is a lot easier to recover from” 😂
The disconnect from reality is mind blowing lol
It’s is less damaging, less likely to happen and more easy to stop
@@Pingu_1929 source: trust me bro
The raising her daughter to protect herself without needing a gun… so when the men who are absolutely capable of restraining her, grabbing her, raping her etc try to do that, how is her mental strength going to protect her? You need a weapon to properly defend yourself, especially as a female. Period.
@@Pingu_1929 was this fact checked?
This could be easily addressed with one simple action: Parents TEACHING kids how to properly use and respect firearms. Then you take away their curiosity and they will also respect what it can do. Done.
Justice is so infuriating. Everything he said was caring about black people being oppressed, but then wanted black people to not be able to have firearms and only for the government, who has historically oppressed them, to have those guns. He’s a walking contradiction.
Agreed when he talked about the Black Panthers carrying weapons and how that forced more gun control, I felt that was a argument on systemic racism versus guns adversely affecting black communities
Yep.
I mean he’s also contradicting about his gender brotha, that’ll tell you everything you need to know about that goofy
Because he is misinformed and his mind is still moldable.
He works at Wack Arnold's
0:12 seconds in and we're already complaining about a hypothetical scenario in which laws are already on the books for.
You can tell who's never been the actual victim of a violent crime.....never again I carry everywhere
They’re ignorant of the privilege they have, it’s insane to me
That's truly what it boils down to. Do you only want to be a victim?
Just got back from London. It was so safe.. less guns.. less crime.
Period.
@@gabecastillo1634right not privilege
@@Far7rom😂😂😂 keep believing that
If course Black Rambo wants to have access to government level weapons. 😂🤣😆😅I do agree with him though.
“If we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns” -somebody
Exactly
coilion Noir made that quote
And yet that has never happened
@@melancholygirl7793guns aren’t outlawed in the USA
@@melancholygirl7793 actually it continues to happen, things like switches on handguns have been illegal for a long time yet the police somehow are recovering more from crime scenes each year.
They acting like gangs getting registered firearms and not from the cartel 😂😂
You got it backwards buddy, the cartel gets the guns from the gangs, all illegal guns in MX 🇲🇽 come from the USA 🇺🇸🤣
We are the largest exporter of guns in the world. And gangs get their guns from law abiding citizens who can’t follow basic instruction.
@@muraismybby4617 as if Mexico has zero import from other countries to the south 🤦♂️ yeah let the cartel explain where they get their guns from they will be truthful about that
@@TheUberninjaChannelcartel gets guns from the U.S, that's like a known fact.
@@whatoh3407 yeah and we also just gave millions in equipment and guns to the taliban after our Afghanistan exit. Your point?
This guy that totally trust the government is a fool
No, I live outside of America. I live in germany and I trust the government. Because people don’t have such an easy access to guns. When you have a gun there are many rules how to keep the gun safe. The gun and munition need to be locked away separately and by different locks. A gun does not give you freedom if you NEED to carry a gun to feel safe. I am sorry but that is crazy. It is only in the constitution because the founding father wanted people to defend themselves against tyranny because they were oppressed by England. It is crazy how high the USA is in gun violence no other country has such high number.
@@ilikedinosaur3259L bait try harder😂
@@ilikedinosaur3259so when your government goes into full tyrant mode how are u gonna defend yourself and family? With kitchen knives, shovels and rakes? Guns are in our amendments cause it's a protection and prevention for corrupt governments.
@@ilikedinosaur3259 L country das problably why yall lost 2 wars in a row
@@ilikedinosaur3259 The irony of being a German and blindly trusting your government. History is doomed to repeat itself.
Lady in the white top making up stats out of thin air has me falling laughing. The facts checks are kicking her butt!!
The fact checks are wrong lol her data comes from the CDC, NIJ and FBI whereas the “fact checks” come from everytown, the AAP and the University of San Francisco…
Gun violence is not the leading cause of death of children
You mean bias statistics that are made by anti gun groups owned by billionare mike Bloomberg that are manipulated to drive the numbers up like labeling 18-24 year olds children ? Those statistics?
The dude started saying guns were to blame for black children dying, but then followed it up with gun laws are inherently racist. Totally incoherent.
Yeah that dude was all over the place. Everything had to come back to racism against black people even though it didn’t have anything to racism
That guy was silly
If you understood nuance, you'd find the obvious truth in that. Prohibition didn't prevent abusers and the uneducated from drinking.
@@JoeTecmo There isn't nuance in that - it is incoherence.
The nuanced take is that racist laws and policies have shaped black communities into pockets of desperation from which naturally will stem violence.
The guns are not the source of that violence - the violence within the culture manifests as gun violence.
Guns do not breed violence - which seems to be your position. I am very non-violent and loving yet I carry a gun on me every single day everywhere I go.
Actually, Chief when the Black Panther Party stood up gun laws in California changed up in a hurry
Jubilee Should have brought Colion Noir on here.
💯
I think they've had him before
especially cuz hes also a lawyer
And Maj 🗿
Jubilee doesn’t want that. He’d break the narrative too hard.
Rambo: " If somebody breaks in here we're dead"
Justice: " Thats my fate then, im ok with that "
🤔🤨
Gay. Rambo not gay just red white and blue, Also not gay.
Yeah these are the same people that want to teach kids at school that they should consider that maybe they are gay or transgender
That dude is such a fking🐱hearing him speak was exhausting
The second Justice started snapping, I was like "shill."
@@austinhall3277 Source: trust me bro
Dude said he knows the ARMS DEALERS is wild!
I noticed that there were multiple glaring seemingly intentionally missed opportunities to fact check the anti gun group. Seems like the fact checks should have been more balanced.
Also the fact checks against the pro gun side are proven wrong multiple times by a bit of googling. Certainly a bias on this channel. This is why America will remain divided.
If the facts can be proven there’s no reason to fact check especially if what they were saying is incorrect
The fact checks against the pro-gun were pretty disingenuous. They fact checked something slightly different than what was discussed over and over.
You can easily fact check the fact checks and see that several were wrong or misleading. Some werent even the same statistic being discussed.
exactly
The suicides with guns is insane. However... if someone wants to end their own life, they will find a way with or without a gun. It's a sad reality. Look at South Korea and Japan... Honestly.. these statistics make me sad :(
Thank You
but the thing is that what the guy was saying, in the process of doing so like cutting their writ or taking pill... if in anyway they changed their mind or for some reason needed help, its not an instant death, a chance of saving them can be done, but with guns, itsn an instant
@serumbae7879 Jumping of a building is instant death...jumping in front on a train is instant death..Orverdosing is usually Guaranteed death..If u care about saving ppl..Then care about mental health..Not stripping ppl of their rights...If ppl have deciding to off themselves they will find a way...and make sure it happens.
Guns are "done deal".... other ways, there's hope and chance to change your mind cuz there's a lot of effort.
@@serumbae7879jumping off a building doesn’t give u a second chance. Nice to know u want to take away peoples autonomy just sayin
Id rather have a gun and never "need" it than not have one and need it. Just like fire extinguishers.
Guns are more like flamethrowers because they don't reduce violence they make it MUCH easier to do.
There are almost zero situations where pulling out a gun calms the situation down
Great analogy! I fully agree
Be a warrior in a garden not a gardener in a war, sun tzu
I have a couple of nice ones yet I never use them even though I need to practice with them 😆
And you hope to never use it
Love how that fact check for mass shootings in gun free zones was so convenient against the pro gun debater when she was clearly talking about school shootings
I never understood why people on these don’t prep beforehand. Did they never have debates and discussions in their school classes that they had to learn how to prep for? It’s an elementary level skill
take it easy! they are influencers, their job barely needs any preparation to start with
Because it's a setup, duh
What other reason would you not bring someone like Brandon Herrera, Colion Noir, Garand Thumb, Demolition Ranch, etc.
pretty sure they also withheld questions or gave them little time anyway.
bias is clear as daylight.
@@DTreatzall in the agenda to disarm us
@@DTreatzand the "fact" checks that include other statistics that aren't relevant to the conversation at hand to "disprove" what a pro-gun person says. Nothing new.
Lol most schools don't do debate
We defend our President...with guns, defend our Congressmen....with guns, our Governors, celebrities, sporting events, banks,factories, courts....WITH GUNS....then defend our children with a sign that reads "this is a gun free zone."......Then call someone with a gun if there is an emergency.
Ouch…this hits hard
I don’t know or understand. They are thinking about people they don’t know or will ever meet. We all need to think about how we can protect ourselves and our families because like you said all those other people are doing it so why shouldn’t we do the same.
Yup. When seconds count police are minutes away.
This should be top comment.
Exactly
Pro gun didn't even say that 18-24 year olds ARENT CHILDEREN. The "fact" that gun deaths are leading cause of children, looks pretty wrong when you take out all those "children".
I thought the exact same thing , I say after 16 that's young adult territory able to have a job and pay taxes.
Agree...Jubilee posted on the screen age 0-24. separate children from young adults and 0-10 and young teens that are in gangs and the death rate would change dramatically not even accounting for mental illness.
Remember, the government counts up to age 25 as "dependents" of their parents if so needed. So yeah, they consider young adults as "children"!
From someone who doesn't live in the US, I can see pros and cons to both sides. Dominic comes off as the most logical and reasonable person that I could compromise with.
These people don't seem to realize that privateers were a thing. Private citizens could own their own canons and warships when the second amendment was passed. I suspect they don't realize how expensive a nuclear warhead is either lol
They still are a thing.
Also, I can point to at least 4 different multi-shot or repeating systems in use by the 1780. Three of those were utilized in some degree by military or "megacorp" security forces.
Private corporations produce and own nukes as well...
Private groups already own nukes. The manufacturers produce them for the military and give them ownership.
It’s just you not allowed to have them.
But also nukes in your own country against your own country is retarded.
The moderator can’t hold his bias for the anti-gun side. Didn’t question them at all. Jubilee is far from a “middle ground” channel 😂
If they wanted a real conversation they would have gotten Colion Noir on, but somehow they never get him on. Kinda weird... almost like they know their side is wrong, or at the very least way to uneducated to debate people who know anything about the topic. Also my favorite little counter to the "militia" argument, is for them to bring up arrest records or warrants for people owning guns outside of the militia after the establishment of the 2nd amendment. They don't exist for a reason.
Facts
I’m only here for blackrambo❤
Jubilee needs to hire more unbiased or centrist people for political videos
True and also the fact that they keep editing parts out bothered me hella i didn’t even finish the vid
The child statistic death includes 1 - 19 year olds, omitting 0 - 11 months and including pre teens, teens, and litteral adults.
I would still consider anyone under 18 a child. And there are some 18 year olds and 19 year olds in high school. I would consider that still a child.
@@izziestar1197 no. They're young adults and / or teenagers.
@@izziestar1197good thing what you say doesn’t matter. A child is someone 1-14. Period.
Every single state has background checks when it comes to buying a gun. Thats federal. Not state.
A few states still have person to person sales. They don't have to do a background check on those private dales.
@@williamsveen2827 well yeah…but that’s completely different. You should be able to do whatever you want with your property. Thats not what the debate is. People are all the time trying to say you can go to a gun store or show and buy a gun with no background check and that’s just not true.
@@williamsveen2827 I assume you are referring to Form 4473? If so, only a few require the following for private sales (I want to say it's less then more, but I could be wrong)
You guys gotta bring in regular people, the entire pro-gun side seems to be influencers within that space rather than normal people. It’s strange overall.
I disagree. We need people with credentials and who are well versed on the topic. Whether their credentials are note worthy is subjective, but they should not get regular people.
They tend to bring on a lot of influencers
@@metaldeath0*and majority of their facts were wrong…influencers doesn’t mean credentials*
As a European, I cannot get my head around that a normal person would need or want a gun.
(Excl. hunters or other recreational professional use)
@@guext2458majority of the fact checks in this channel are wrong.
I like how they pick and choose what to fact check. “Unbiased” fact checking 😂
They're wrong too
100%
They present the "fact check" without any context to it. The NEJM child death study was the most blatant and the moderator just simply says "its true". Yes is true but you are not talking about the whole study since it includes up to 24 year old's. Last I check those were not children.
no, they only fact check the people who were wrong. how is that not unbiased?
@@crystalbiggs8479 They didn’t fact check all the anti-gun lies that were said.
Bro ain’t got ptsd he be reminiscing war😂
you was kid yourself, you know you don't easily share things with your parent.
I worked in Corrections and did alot of research on what are the highest charges in this country. I think the anti-gun people are REALLY, REALLY, underestimating how many people, who do illegal things, have guns. Yes. There should obviously be a process on how to obtain a gun legally. But if you take away the guns from the law-abiding citizens, the non-law abiding citizens are still going to have them.
Thank you for your input and logic gathered from experience. Many people really believe that by banning firearms, everyone will automatically give up their guns and and then they’ll disappear indefinitely so that they don’t fall into the hands of the wrong people 🤦♀️
Valid argument to say that there are too many guns in the US to reverse gun violence even if banned. Also the culture would make it impossible for a clean shift. US has a different relation to guns versus Australia for example.
Still its the lack of control that is the reason there are so many guns in circulation. Short term change would bring pain, but long term benefits could outweigh the negatives.
Giving law abiding citizens weapons will increase the amount of weapons in used by non-law abiding citizens.
I don’t think a ban would work in the us, but for argument’s sake.
you americans are the only country in the world who has this kind of problem. very unique to america.
@@claireglory very true but I think there is a conspiracy behind it all.
@@claireglory honestly, I think there is a conspiracy around it all. And yes. Crazy things Ike mass shootings happen in other countries but it’s not big news.
22 seconds into this video and bro wants citizens to be able to have nukes lmao
Bruh lol that was a flash forward.
based actually
Why do you want to limit access?
Bro is a GTA character
Well, according to 2A, actually yeah- the point of the second amendment being written into the constitution the way it was specifically was for citizens to have the same weaponry as the military (which at the time was muskets) to avoid tyrranical rule & takeover.
They didn't know that Tanks and Nuclear weapons would exist, so it's definitely a big problem that needs to be resolved because technically he's correct- that's what 2A is for, even though common sense tells you how wildly dangerous it would be for civilians to have access to weapons of mass destruction.
Not having colion noir is a miss
Colin isnt a clown he would never come take part in this circus
👆 exactly
@@DecentosDecenium-h6sWhat's wrong with being gay?
They wouldnt stand a chance
He would easily destroy them and liberal jubilee wouldn’t want that.
The problem goes bigger than gun violence, we're talking about homes that have single parent households (single mom). Fathers are important for society. They have a higher chance of preventing the degeneracy that's happening in the world in comparison to 2 parent household
I was always into guns, last year i was shot 5 times. After a 12 hour surgery and 2 more to follow and a 8 month recovery my life is different. Im still into guns, people who have guns think its a one sided deal that if you have a gun you win. If you have a gun be prepared to possibly be in a gunfight and getting shot, trust me you don't want to get shot.
having a gun is only the first step. the next is training. what happened to the other guy?
I’m praying that you make a safe and full recovery! Sorry this happened to you!
@@Ummkelechi Thanks, I never once felt bad for myself so you shouldn’t either.
As a woman, I get that.
Ever notice how the only the ppl that claim we don’t need guns are those who live in rich areas where they don’t need guns lol
That's the point, if they are rich, why would they move to a poor neighborhood. It's not their fault
@@Virtuosity109 lmao r u slow im saying just cuz YOU don’t need one doesn’t mean NO ONE needs one. Ppl need them in poor areas to defend from ppl who illegally own fire arms to use it for harm and robbery. You’ll be hard pressed to find many ppl in a poor areas telling ppl they don’t need guns. It’s like how if someone said “ driving cars is too dangerous and causes too many deaths….just use ur parents helicopter or private jet like I do. Cuz ur endangering ppl driving cars ^_^ . So ima make it illegal to own cars .”
Who tf you told you rich neighborhoods don’t get robbed you even if your rich you still need a gun it don’t matter where you live suburbs the hood rich areas you can still get robbed
Rich areas have gun violence too.
32:10 and I can't watch anymore. Even if it does have Rambo.
I appreciate the fact checking, but it's so obviously biased...I would love an unbiased show similar to this
@BillyJackRobertJeffriesdo you have a better point of view ?
Colin Noir would of been a great pro gun candidate considering he’s a lawyer as well
I know the host always tries to be objective but it was blatantly clear who he agreed with.
The problem with the anti-gun side is that they argue for a utopia that is impractical.
Simply put, it's impossible.
Why do you call it a utopia when it exists and works in reality?
@@chefkochmiauwhere? 😂
@@devilbooster1082 germany for example
@@chefkochmiau google disagrees
Black and pro gun🔫 ✊🏿
Mexican and pro gun 🔫✊🏽
1/4 black, 1/4 native American, 1/2 European and pro gun 🔫 ✊🏻
hispanic and pro gun
6”2 and pro gun🔫🙏
White and sexy pro gun (i kant find emojis or spell because im intoxicanted)
He snapped his fingers like it’s a jazz club. I can’t watch anymore
justice is ridiculous. did he not acknowledge all the black organized groups that demonstrate with their guns and were not arrested. The rioters are different than protesters.
Yes, you're absolutely correct. Protectors and rioters are two totally different sets of people
dude, he has multiple black friends who got 10-20 year prison sentences for possessing pepper spray and tasers.
@@stanleyrojina4481 I am calling B.S., I might have believed it if he say 1, but any time I hear something along the lines of "I know multiple X that x happened to" I immediately think they are making stuff up to sound like an authority on a subject they know little or nothing about.
He only sees what he wants to see. That's how they operate until they are faced with reality.
When homey started snapping his fingers, I just lost it. 😂
he a bad bish
Hahahahaha
Hate to say it, but that the type of thing I think ppl mean when they say things like soy boy and beta cucks
That guy just totally lied about purchasing a firearm and said there are states that you don't have to do a background check. That is a complete lie as all retail gun purchases are required to have a background check. That is a federal law and is punishable by prison
I haven’t made it to the part where you’re are referring to but here in the state of Texas. When purchasing firearms from a gun show a background check is NOT required. Texas literally has the biggest gun shows in the US and all you need is to have an ID. I just turned 21 last week and I went and bought 2 weapons last week.
EDIT: I was incorrect
@@notj5 He said retail not private sale. In the video he mentions having to answer questions about gun safety which I seriously doubt would happen in a private sale.
@@joshuahuman1 thanks for correcting me I misheard. Yes you are correct. All they ask you is do you have the money and are you over 21.
Exactly
@@notj5 most private sales require a ffl person to keep record of the sale
Holy cow!!!! I wish I would have been on this episode. With my experience and my background I think I would have brought something different to the table. Great vod and really appreciated the interaction. I hope everyone is well and take care.
Dominic and Black Rambo remind me od the type of uncles at the cookout that would never get along, but they are both "The Cool Uncles", even with their different beliefs. Both are well spoken and civilly discussed their differences while they vehemently disagreeing. Interactions like THAT is what I love about Middle Ground.
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5:30 type of dude that complains about police but tells everyone to rely on em.
Its full lunacy!! We need police we need 2A
HELP HELP HELP! Oh, I'm dead because you didn't show up in time. LMAO.
Oh no someones in my house, i better call the police so they can recover my corpse
@@Ketsu626 prerecorded call to 911 when the ticker stops beating lol
Someone could have a firearm pointed at you, finger on the trigger, and this guy says "How do you know they would pull it?" -_-
low IQ take. thats not what anybody said. they said how do you know that having a gun in that instance would stop them pulling the trigger. two very different things.
Gun classes teach. Never point a gun at someone unless your willing to use it. 😮
That dude is an arrogant fool.
I'm very pro-gun and I was surprised when none of the pro-gun people stood forward for how its destroying black communities because it absolutely is.
Yes but is it the guns fault on the people behind? Getting rid of the guns won’t get rid of the violence. I mean look at Britain, their knife violence is off the charts
Pro gun here. Rambo shouldn’t leave his guns loose.
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I 100% agree. Accidents happen to even the most trained adult. And he has literal kids.
@@WinterSoldier100well my kid graduated and off to law school no accidents guess I did ok
@@BlackRamboTVjust because something didn’t happen, doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen. Everyone is one bad day away from a life changing event.
@@BlackRamboTV WE LOVE BLACK RAMBO. He knows more about firearm safety and who better to teach kids than their own parents? They have to learn sometime.
🤣 and at the last prompt "The NRA is a respectable organization". My only thought was "what respectable gun owner would agree with that? 🤣
Exactly, I’m not a NRA member because they are too moderate… I’m a member of GOA because they fight for our rights.
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@@JacobMcandles not to mention the extreme corruption within the organization.
So…what would be the ultimate top tier firearm organization that teaches anything in firearms?
A gun free zone is a person who’s attempting to do harm is a criminal dream. Majority of shootings happen in those zones
But they're literally not.
As a British person that makes no sense, why would a no gun zone be more dangerous than a normal area with guns?
@@dylangeorge5526because gun-free zones tend to have people not concealed carrying so they’re easier targets.
The fact check said only 10% of mass shootings happened in gun free zones
False
I used to be antigun, but now after growing up and learning how dangerous it is to be an independent woman, i am progun 100%.
Sane and healthy gun owners agree there should be way more requirements to be able to purchase one. In mexico you need to file a hunter id, gun id, and...another id (can't remember well lol, I dont have guns but I am looking into it).
No one should carry or buy a gun if they have not taken a proper gun class. It should be way more meticulous than getting car driving classes imo, both are just as dangerous and require high level of responsibility and at least mid dexterity.
If you are not mentally ok, you should NOT be able to have a gun (at least 1 year of therapy and approval from a therapist). If you have been in jail, you should NOT be allowed to buy a gun ever again. You MUST have a dedicated well kept place to store your guns, more so if you have children... All of these things have been mentioned by progunners and I agree 100%.
I don’t think we want to copy Mexico’s practices for gun ownership. They have much worse gun violence than the US.
Product ban doesn’t work prohibition is the best example of that
For addictive substances
@@eightequalsequalsdee For almost anything
How about the UK, Australia or New Zealand?? All have had barley any mass shootings since banning guns.
@@TheKennyboy92 The UK just had a mass stabbing. That's the problem with these gun stats. They focus entirely on one weapon while pretending that people won't just pick up a different one.
@@zipperton-1 The US still has more stabbings per capita. Mass shootings are a much bigger issues than mass stabbing which are easier to stop.
It's wild to me to know that people think others who have illegally obtained a gun care about the law. People raised in safe upper class communities shouldn't have a say on others defense mechanisms who weren't as lucky when those upper class people obviously don't realize that there's a huge illegal gun trade.
A huge illegal gun trade living off the huge LEGAL gun industry.
Just think critically for a second though. No one is manufacturing illegal guns. So the illegal guns are logically a a byproduct of the general free availability of guns. Not advocating for any specific measures or anything, lets just be honest about where illegally owned guns come from. They start as legal guns.
@Sieil
Ok and next step?
@@Sieil people are manufacturing guns lol, japans prime minister was literally assassinated by one
What about the assembly of ghost guns?
I wish the moderator didn’t show which side he was on. He’s clearly partial to the anti-gun side.
He mainly was calling out logical contradictions and tried to understand what the pro-gun side were saying. I will say though, the younger black dude needed to be called out a few times and he did fail to do that tbf.
@@cubbwatchbut the way he was saying “just to clarify” and then word the pro gun sides stance into something that sounds ridiculous, but is still technically what they believe so they feel compelled to say the do agree with that kinda hyper specific thing.
maybe because a lot of the times the pro gun side people kept making contradicting statements. They’d accidentally slip up and say things that are pretty much against their own stance and not even realize
@@cubbwatch by being immensly condesending because he doesn't understand someone else's life?
@@proof.120 We are all human my friend. Even you can end up sounding condescending in a debate setting, it's not always malevolent or intentional. Hot topics are where you exercise the most amount of tolerance, or else every statement or question starts to sound like a personal attack. I genuinely wouldn't take any Jubilee debate too seriously or personally...
This black guy from new York seems like he had a doorman growing up 😂
Lol that boy soft af