Oxalate Toxicity: A Comprehensive Discussion

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  • @WillowTube
    @WillowTube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I've already listened to a few of Elliots interviews on oxalates and still found all 3.5hrs of this discussion extremely interesting. The best is when he gives an encyclopaedic in depth answer simplifying something as complex as nutrition and human physiology in a way that accelerates everyone's knowledge on a topic and finishes with 'did that answer the question?' Yes Elliot, you just made anyone who can listen an expert in the field 😁
    Elliot is going places, we're going to be seeing a lot more of him. Won't be long before Unkas will be telling everyone about the chat he once had with Overton before mentioning Saladino. Elliot is much more balanced with no bias or agenda.

  • @joelunchbucket6000
    @joelunchbucket6000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    The debate is over for me. Now age 60, low carb for two years, meat based for a year and half. Fixed everything. See no reaason to eat plants at all. A cup of coffee/day is the only plant matter I consume.

    • @aydnofastro-action1788
      @aydnofastro-action1788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Joe Lunchbucket same here.

    • @barbaraherrera3606
      @barbaraherrera3606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      I will be 58 years old in April. I’ve been following a vegan diet and some how managed to be a fat vegan. I just had kidney stone surgery when my body did an “ oxalate dump” after pursuing a paleo diet trying to feel better. I was not flourishing on a plant based diet. I’ve had brain fog, anxiety, fatigue, unexplained joint pain while following a plant based diet. No doctor ever mentioned oxalates. Not once! Imagine my disappointment when the urologist said to avoid tofu, blueberries, spinach, raspberries! That was everything in my refrigerator. Why do the professionals not know this? Once the stone was analyzed it was the “healthy foods” that caused it! I am shocked and now on my road to recovery. What a painfully rude awakening. I am thankful to find these answers. Thank you!

    • @aydnofastro-action1788
      @aydnofastro-action1788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Barbara Herrera thanks for sharing. Good luck.

    • @aydnofastro-action1788
      @aydnofastro-action1788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Barbara Herrera there are many “fat vegans”. They are carb heavy. All fruits and veg are basically carbs. It depends on how much raw you eat. It has half the calories

    • @tonycollyweston6182
      @tonycollyweston6182 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great, I hope you have a good health insurance plan not relying on the taxpayer.

  • @htaehlane5868
    @htaehlane5868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Two time calcium oxylate kidney stone sufferer. Used to drink large amounts of iced tea, ate large spinach salads, kale, almonds. Went LCHF 14 months ago with the last 6 months primarily carnivore - aside from ALL of the other health benefits and weight loss; I now have minimal chance of developing stones again! Win-Win!

    • @_____J______
      @_____J______ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@T-aka-T Ignorance is bliss, especially not knowing about neu5gc and neu5ac which causes cancers, also GMO corn fed meats inflammatory stuff. But continue with your ignorance on anything, I care not

    • @gavtex1065
      @gavtex1065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@_____J______ you assume ignorance. I’m very familiar with that theory. And TMAO. Heme iron. Where do we stop? The more deeply you look into these theories the less convincing they are. You’ve obviously heard a vegan or vegan doctor talk about this supposed ‘mechanism’ and thought ‘wow yeah that’s very convincing’. Research deeper they are all, so far, bunk. I’ll tell you about another theory... vegan doctors clutch at straws to come up with ‘reasons’ and ‘theories’ to convince people that meat is unhealthy, but it’s not out of genuine scientific enquiry and a desire to uncover truth but it’s driven by ideology. EVERY time I look into these theories it doesn’t take long to uncover massive flaws. I’m open minded about all nutritional theories and mechanisms because I genuinely want to get to the truth, but I’m getting tired of the shenanigans and dishonesty by all the vegan ‘gurus’. At this point I wouldn’t believe a thing they say, I only consider their ideas from time to time in an effort to avoid getting stuck in an echo chamber. I think you may be stuck in one yourself.

    • @jamesnguyen7069
      @jamesnguyen7069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Until your kidney cannot process all thaf protein

    • @htaehlane5868
      @htaehlane5868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@jamesnguyen7069 sorry it doesn't work that way - our kidenys will process as much protein from our diets as necessary - in fact excess carbohydrate consumption contributes greatly to kidney disease

    • @foxyauragems6146
      @foxyauragems6146 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gavtex1065 exactly . Menopause Taylor OBGYN and TH-cam sensation and author with worldwide following insists on pushing VEGAN even though her arthritis is so bad she had to quit her practice when fairly youngz We have all been brainwashed and these doctors should be HELD Accountable

  • @Htrac
    @Htrac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Oxalates have wrecked my body. I thought I was being healthy by eating lots of plants, wholegrains, beans, nuts, dark chocolate, cocoa powder and turmeric and black pepper in extreme quantities etc. Over the years, it built up and because I was young doctors couldn't explain why I had joint pain, nerve pain and tingling, fatigue and weakness, peeling skin, ulcers in my mouth, heart palpitations, blocked sweat glands and blocked eyelash pores, and numerous other problems.
    I put it down to "ageing" despite being in my late 20s. I suffered from so many inexplicable health problems for years.
    I then suffered from diarrhoea every day for nearly two years, and doctors also couldn't explain that. Since cutting out most plant foods and high oxalate foods, my leaky gut has healed, I don't have diarrhoea, and all of my pain and other symptoms have disappeared. If I eat a lot of dark chocolate, the symptoms come back with a 2-3 day delay, because I'm still in the process of getting rid of the oxalates.
    I can't believe how all the advice of governments and doctors led to me harming myself, and they are even pushing plant foods harder and discouraging meat! The opposite of what we should be doing! Ironically, if I had never cared about my health, I probably would have been better off. It was eating too much of so-called healthy plant foods that damaged my body.

    • @eifionphillips3004
      @eifionphillips3004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Was you eating gluten? causes leaky gut and joint pain.

    • @Htrac
      @Htrac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@eifionphillips3004 Yes I was eating gluten. But I have been tested for celiac and don't have it, and now that my gut is healed I can eat bread and pasta without issues.
      However I think gluten is probably one of the worst things you can have when you have a disrupted gut barrier, as it will exacerbate it. Cutting all grains and plant foods out was definitely key to my recovery.

    • @versewriter8123
      @versewriter8123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Htrac
      Do you eat any fruit?

    • @paweluko
      @paweluko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you go full carnivore or now, after resolving most of your issues, you keep a varied diet? If so, what do you eat?

    • @Htrac
      @Htrac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@paweluko I went full carnivore and it solved my issues. I'm now back to an omnivore diet, but I try not to overdo it with certain things like wholegrains, nuts, legumes. The basis of my diet is good quality meat, fish and eggs.

  • @terrythompson5979
    @terrythompson5979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    This is great. Carnivore 20 months. I am definitely oxalate sensitive. Most helpful line, "We need to stop thinking of food as entertainment." Yes!!

    • @08saaid9
      @08saaid9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you free from oxalates now ?

    • @jamesestrella5911
      @jamesestrella5911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Apparently even lectins aren't too nice either.

    • @luca_rr4660
      @luca_rr4660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do you prevent iron overload on carnivore? That's the only thing that's bothering me.

    • @alidolally4851
      @alidolally4851 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totes agree. Nutrition is survival, preventative & curative health, and privilege of not being hungry. Not the greed and wastefulness of ‘presentation ‘ of Michelin starred recipes.
      Of course , it has to be somewhat bespoke.
      Really chuffed to have found Elliot as a superb resource for me to keep learning and improve my professional skills as a FitPro.
      Edited by me.

    • @StephanieKraft
      @StephanieKraft ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luca_rr4660 donate blood if it's too high.

  • @dearestsimone
    @dearestsimone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I have been on the lox oxalate diet for about 8 months. My joint pain and weakness has improved tremendously, unmistakely. I am motivated to stay on this diet for the rest of my life. It is a life-style change, but worthwhile. So glad for this video. The word needs to get out!

    • @soulcostume
      @soulcostume 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Please, can you provide some relevant list of oxalate foods?

    • @aydnofastro-action1788
      @aydnofastro-action1788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dearestsimone how long would you say before you noticed the joint pain gone? I need to cut out a few more foods to see if it helps. I’m already dumping oxalates through skin.

    • @aydnofastro-action1788
      @aydnofastro-action1788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For a list of foods. Spinach almonds and rhubarb are highest. But search for Sally Norton. She has compiled the largest list. She has a FB group.

    • @amynatzke1050
      @amynatzke1050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@soulcostume The most comprehensive, reliable list comes from Susan Owen's Facebook site, called "Trying Low Oxalate". There are others found online --University of Chicago and Harvard each have one, but the TLO one is the best. The foods you want to avoid most are rhubarb, swiss chard, spinach, some kinds of kale, all nuts and nut flours (esp almonds), all potatoes, and most beans. Also turmeric, chia seeds, sesame seeds. Cumin, cinnamon. The grief is real!!!

    • @jules9628
      @jules9628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How longdid it take until you noticed a difference-felt better? Ive been on a month-had some real good days then BAM-Havent felt good since really-some days worse than others. Havent seen any crystals anywhere-just fibromyalgia ramped up like a “flare”. Thx!

  • @TerriblePerfection
    @TerriblePerfection 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This is so fascinating. I don't mind the length at all and appreciate how comprehensive it is. I'm 63 and have been both vegetarian and carnivore, and I know that eating meat agrees with me. I do love salads, however, and wonder why they remain so appealing. Thank you for the talk.

  • @eruston
    @eruston 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    My grandpa was right all along: ate lots of meaty meals, eggs, bacon and some coffee in the morning, cooked with bacon fat and lard...lived to 97 and died peacefully in his sleep. That is how I want to leave this world, not stuffed full of tubes and butchers (aka doctors) with clipboards standing next to my gurney. I have found that going raw carnivore has been very beneficial, but I do include cooked meats.

    • @Magnulus76
      @Magnulus76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He had good genes. For most Americans, that died would send them to an early grave.

    • @djsteadywill2620
      @djsteadywill2620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      My grandmother ate the exact same way (eggs, bacon, ham, lots of salt, coffee.) She was on zero medications. At the age 100 her daughters decided they’d take control over her diet. They eliminated most of salt, dairy and pork intake and added more plants, not because of failing health, but because of erroneous health beliefs. At the age of 102 she began showing symptoms of arthritis and was hospitalized diagnosed with a UTI. Doctors prescribed antibiotics and she passed shortly before 103rd birthday. If only I had known this info.

    • @oldegoatee8450
      @oldegoatee8450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@djsteadywill2620 I don't think this was the daughters' fault that she passed, since at 103, she may have been ready at that point anyway(?). But an interesting case!

    • @organikmomz9526
      @organikmomz9526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My grandfather ate the same way and lived to 95.

    • @brandog1734
      @brandog1734 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ive never met a 90 year old vegan, they die too soon.

  • @aquamarine_nz2296
    @aquamarine_nz2296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Really indepth interview. Elliot has such a huge amount of knowledge but always remains open (and considers individual biochemistry) and not dogmatic which is crucial in a healer I think.

  • @taejoon6845
    @taejoon6845 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Elliot is fantastic, just a wealth of information presented in a non-dogmatic and unbiased manner. A real pleasure to listen to and learn from.

  • @jeanbush8791
    @jeanbush8791 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Remember, the weaker, sicker and more confused we are, the easier we can be controlled.

  • @ceewhateyecee9701
    @ceewhateyecee9701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for this information. I really appreciate how in-depth you went on oxalates. I went on a deep dive for a week on MM + Celery Juice and it went badly. Joint pain, inflammation-even affected eyesight and muscle pains (including cramps). Was up to 16 oz at the end (again, I only did one week), but realized that crap isn’t for me. I am slowly bringing down oxalates level and using a food-tracking app to monitor oxalates intake. Thank you for the great work you are doing to help improve our health.

  • @DobermanPuppies-l8u
    @DobermanPuppies-l8u ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Oh my. I am so thankful for you and your videos. I believe that you are doing God's work. I went on Carnivore and had Oxalate dump after 6 months. It was extreme. I have had chronic hives and a floater broke loose in my left eye on Easter. Let me tell you SIR. After watching your videos....adding B!, Calcium, C, Mg, K, P, and MSM I have discovered that I can get back on track, I was B1 depleted from the Oxalate dump, Very traumatic and you are correct that Oxalate dump without calcium can leak into the gut and out through eyes or other places. Thanks for your videos.

    • @pixelkat1819
      @pixelkat1819 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was unaware to slowly reduce oxalate foods when I went carnivore 21/2 years ago…and last week I started with a small patch of hives which moved to my face arms and legs. This is about the most discomfort I have ever felt! Bought sweet potatoes on sallys recommendation and eating some of that per day, along with green tea. Ordering the supplements you also used. So far no relief after a week but holding on it will back off soon. My face is so bad I’m to embarrassed to go outside in public.
      How long did you skin dump last?
      Thanks.

    • @suew4609
      @suew4609 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pixelkat1819How are you doing now? I’m just starting this journey of dumping oxalates. It’s very painful. I have half a dozen autoimmune diseases and chronic pain, so I need to dump a lot, but don’t want to suffer as much as I have so far. I went straight to Carnivore without really knowing what oxalate dumping was. The Carnivore gurus mention it in their videos but don’t say much about it except it happens to some people. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @pixelkat1819
      @pixelkat1819 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@suew4609 good luck on this path. I really suffered for almost three months. It felt like I went through two rounds of dumping at that time. Then I almost recovered completely, pain diminished, skin cleared almost 100%. Had about a month of being clear…then it hit again. But I will say every round was less and less discomfortable.
      This third round has gone on about three months or so but its not as bad or embarrassing. I still snag a small amount of sweet potato every day, and a cup of green tea in the morning. But recently been thinking of stopping those and see what affect it has on my skin. The little oxalate grains are gone. Maybe a couple times I can feel them on my skin, but overall so much better.
      Hang in there, I wish you well. I wish I hadnt stopped cold turkey but it is what it is. Cant go back. 🙂

  • @ninamarie9827
    @ninamarie9827 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watching to the very end and having listened to your incredible knowledge and how well you explain very complex processes I would definitely say that you are FAR more than a health coach!!!

  • @aydnofastro-action1788
    @aydnofastro-action1788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Outstanding. I think you missed a chance pinpoint the cause of hair loss. (A long standing mystery!) 50:00 Biotin deficiency caused by oxalates. Biotin is long know to be critical for hiar growth. And supplements of biotin seem to help. And this could explain why hair loss is reported by people on ketogenic diets. Why? They increase fat, lower carbs but KEEP eating oxalate plant foods!! Happened to me.

    • @EONutrition
      @EONutrition  4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Ketogenesis likely increases biotin requirement independent of oxalates. In fact, that is the topic of my next video :)

    • @aydnofastro-action1788
      @aydnofastro-action1788 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      EONutrition thanks EO, looking forward to that!

    • @thestraightroad305
      @thestraightroad305 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I’m looking forward to that video as well!

    • @Ariel-oo1nc
      @Ariel-oo1nc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ketosis also increases Stress (ie. Cortisol) which increases Estrogen. High Estrogen and Serrotonin levels can degrade the body and are highly suspected in male pattern baldness. In Male pattern baldness, Estrogen levels in the skin specifically are high. Look up Danny Roddy and his eBook "Hair like a Fox".

    • @Ariel-oo1nc
      @Ariel-oo1nc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Prosper Fermentation reduces Oxalate content. Fermenting plants like Cucumbers, Cabbage, Kimchi, etc. reduces Oxalate content. But why would you want to eat large amounts of plants that you need to "disarm" in the first place? *Studies below*
      *Effect of Kimchi Fermentation on Oxalate Levels in Silver Beet (Beta vulgaris var. cicla)*
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5302357/
      “The study showed that fermentation of kimchi significantly (p < 0.05) reduced the total oxalate concentration in the initial mix from 609.32 ± 15.69 to 374.71 ± 7.94 mg/100 g FW in the final mix which led to a 72.3% reduction in the amount of calcium bound to insoluble oxalate.”
      (Review, 2018)
      *Fermentation and germination improve nutritional value of cereals and legumes through activation of endogenous enzymes*
      www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6261201/
      “Fermented foods such as “ogi,” produced by acid fermentation of sorghum, millet, or maize, are widely consumed in West Africa (Omemu, 2011), while “chicha” and “masa” are common fermented foods made from fermented maize widely consumed in South American countries (Chaves‐Lopez et al., 2014). In central and southern Africa, “nshima” is made from fermented maize flour. While these techniques are important in improving the shelf life, palatability, and transportability, they can also have adverse effects on the nutrient profiles of these foods. Overall, it appears that some techniques such as fermentation and malting can simultaneously reduce antinutritional factors and enhance nutrient availability (Hotz & Gibson, 2007).”
      “When both glucose and fructose were present during fermentation of pearl millet, microorganisms preferred glucose to fructose as a source of energy since the level of fructose remained constant. In addition, fermentation reduced starch content in millet varieties with subsequent increase in carbon dioxide and ethanol production throughout fermentation period. Moreover, pH was significantly reduced which activated phytase enzyme (El‐Hag et al., 2002).”
      “However, it is reported that fermenting microorganisms also uses amino acid which could lower the protein content and quality of some fermented food (Osman, 2011; Pranoto et al., 2013).
      Fermentation increases the digestibility of plant proteins (Ali, El‐Tinay, & Abdalla, 2003; Alka, Neelam, & Shruti, 2012; El‐Hag et al., 2002; Pranoto et al., 2013). Plant protein has poor digestibility relative to animal protein. Poor protein digestibility may cause gastrointestinal upset which may result in fecal excretion of protein. Hence, increased protein digestibility could reduce the levels of undigested proteins which can potentially cause food allergies due to poor absorption in the gut (Untersmayr & Jensen‐Jarolim, 2008). Combination of fermentation with other processing methods has more advantages. For example, fermentation followed by cooking was effective in increasing the digestibility of grain protein, bringing it nearly to the same level as meat(Khetarpaul & Chauhan, 1990; Osman, 2004; Yousif & El Tinayi, 2001, 2003) likely due to not only destruction of protease (trypsin) inhibitors (Khetarpaul & Chauhan, 1990; Osman, 2011) but also partial predigestion of grain proteins by bacteria during fermentation (Day & Morawicki, 2018). There is also reduction in tannins, oxalate, phytic acid, and carbohydrates which can complex with proteins and hence limiting accessibility by digestive enzymes (El‐Hag et al., 2002; Hassan, Yusuf, Adebolu, & Onifade, 2015; Osman, 2011; Sindhu & Khetarpaul, 2001).”
      Fermentation to Free up Minerals like Potassium
      “Minerals from plant sources have very low bioavailability because they are found complexed with nondigestible material such as cell wall polysaccharides (Torre, Rodriquez, & Saura‐Calixto, 1991) as well as phytate. Notably, potassium is integral part of phytate molecules where it is covalently bonded rendering it inaccessible by digestive enzymes. The complex matrices in which these minerals are entrapped and bonded (Figure 1) are largely responsible for their low bioavailability. Fermentation is one of the processing methods that are applied to free these complexed minerals and make them readily bioavailable (Lopez, Gordon, & Fields, 1983; Pranoto et al., 2013).”

  • @sheilaprice1942
    @sheilaprice1942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    OMG! The pain in foot on the side of foot. 🤷‍♂️I take cacao with almond milk in my coffee every morning and I consume a lot of spinach etc. Bless you!!🙏🏼💕

  • @thenakedsingularity
    @thenakedsingularity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am glad you guys mentioned Anthony Williams. His advice actually is harming some people for precisely the reason of oxalates. I was one of those. Not just celery juice, he was recommending a lot of blueberry smoothies, which is even worse.

    • @janetclark5668
      @janetclark5668 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yan Zhu That’s how I got into trouble - all those fruits and vegetables; then a month of celery juice brought on bladder pain. In his books, look in the index, he doesn’t bring up oxalates (which I find interesting, if you know what I mean.

    • @lr1732
      @lr1732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@janetclark5668 Yeah, I am thinking he has some other agenda. IDK... it seems weird to me that he claims to get this info from SPIRIT. Interesting that my SPIRIT's guide me to stay the F away from plant foods!!! And my experience has validated that 100%.

    • @mazmahjoobi
      @mazmahjoobi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Actually, blueberries are low in oxalates. You can do some research. Old out of date info shows blueberries as being high oxalates but new accurate data shows otherwise.

    • @indigopisces
      @indigopisces ปีที่แล้ว

      I was following MM for a while making spinach smoothies every day fir a couple years 😱

    • @AllThingsConsidered333
      @AllThingsConsidered333 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I did smoothies but always had a distaste for MM and his recommendations. His followers seemed almost cultish imho. Always irritated me when ppl would say to follow his protocols and my health issues mostly caused by mold & tick diseases (and prior to that poor diet, poor sleep, drugs, then “healthy” high oxalate foods, then keto with even more high oxalate foods.. ugh). Plus I’ve always hated celery lol. Most veggies except fresh picked raw green beans & carrots. But I taught myself to eat all the plants bcs they “are healthy”. … now I’m 99% plant free (mostly just coconut milk now to drink my raw eggs in) and feeling a lot better but still have a ways to go to get rid of all the years of oxalate buildup

  • @niikwanchieankrah5698
    @niikwanchieankrah5698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Went Carnivore because of weird symptoms (Intermittent postural hypotension, nerve pain in feet mainly, headache, sleep issues, intermittent brain fog, fatigue, etc). Some good days some bad days on carnivore, likely due to histamine as fermented foods and Avocado totally wipe me out. Now trying carnivore again, making sure my meat is as fresh and frozen ( bough deep freezer and temp is set at -10F, cook meat in Air fryer straight out of freezer) . It is expensive but tired of feeling this way most of the time. Hope it works as this is my last hope.
    Looking back Oxalate and Histamine may have been the reason why keto didn't work for me.
    Vegetarian/Vegan was a terrible idea, lol ( Now i know why i reacted so badly to spinach, avoided it since 2018 but didn't know why )
    Sweet potato (japanese and Okinawa) and plantain work for me in small quantities.
    Background : I am an MD. so i had extensive GI investigation done in 2018 with no abnormal result. Sharing this in case some one is out there suffering with no medical reason to explain.

    • @leavesofchange
      @leavesofchange 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nerve pain etc makes me think B12 deficiency, possibly? Coukd you be MTHFR?

    • @niikwanchieankrah5698
      @niikwanchieankrah5698 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leavesofchange Had all that checked.

    • @olgab3579
      @olgab3579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You sounds just like me!!!
      First grains for 8 years then fermented food and sardines + avocado or two per day😬 were my poison...
      Recovering on ancestral suppliments / available on Amazon & low oxalate protocol now👍

    • @teresaoftheandes6279
      @teresaoftheandes6279 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just think of how many people you will actually be able to help!

    • @suew4609
      @suew4609 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So, has Carnivore helped you after 2 years? I feel like this is my last hope, too. I;m 66 and have been ill for 30+ years with fibromyalgia, arthritis and multiple autoimmune diseases. I’ve been on Carnivore for 4 weeks and have this oxalate problem.

  • @mad_woman6507
    @mad_woman6507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Let's also please look into Sally Norton's research.

    • @6789uiop
      @6789uiop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She brought me here, or YT suggestions did as her vid played.

    • @sarah29880
      @sarah29880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

  • @sheilatwite5479
    @sheilatwite5479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    God bless you two and this amazing discussion. It seems you left nothing out! Is there a chance that you have a transcript of this? Three minutes into the video, I had already been stopping, starting, rewinding, and taking notes for 20 minutes!

  • @cassieb1860
    @cassieb1860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Awesome. Thank you. The light bulbs went on with this information. I wish I knew about this before I lost my thyroid.

  • @AZyzk
    @AZyzk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Very interesting!
    Elliot is a lovelly guy, very knowledgeable and has a straight forward way of giving the info.
    Thank you very much.

  • @joelhunton7108
    @joelhunton7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was a great interview. It's long, but worth every minute.

  • @dougmartin7129
    @dougmartin7129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    My neighborhood rabbits are going to have an expensive feast tomorrow.

    • @CatWoman6
      @CatWoman6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doug Martin 😂😂👍🏻

    • @6789uiop
      @6789uiop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My wife wants to make them the feast IRL.

    • @thestraightroad305
      @thestraightroad305 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doug Martin Hahaha!

    • @otiliaioan5348
      @otiliaioan5348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😅😂😂😂😂😂 poor wabbits

    • @deborahpharaoh4505
      @deborahpharaoh4505 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😅😅😅 and my friends chickens 🤗👊

  • @sophie4636
    @sophie4636 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sally K Norton is the Oxylate expert. Her book Toxic Superfoods is fantastic, well worth reading. She has done many interviews on various podcasts on TH-cam and is incredibly engaging. I'm so glad the oxylate message is getting spread, I destroyed my health by drinking gallons of strong black tea since I was 9 years old. By 45 I was very poorly and spent many years bedbound. Oxylate crystals had filled up my bile duct after it had been scrapped out to remove a stone embedded in it, causing me horrendous pain and leaving me stuck on liquid oxycodone - that's how bad the pain was. I stumbled across an interview with Sally and I knew immediately oxylates were at the heart of my health issues. I was also suffering joint pain, bladder and kidney pain, brain fog, irritability, trouble breathing, trouble digesting fats, horrendous fatigue and hence the last diagnosis was ME/CFS. All of these are being reversed, some started reversing immediately! I haven't felt this good in years! Seek out Sally and her work and go on a low oxylate diet, you won't regret it ❤

  • @rogerdodger5415
    @rogerdodger5415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great interview!
    I’ll probably listen to it at least a couple more times. Chock FULL of valuable information!
    Thanks 🙏 to
    BOTH of you!

  • @strawsofftheneurodivergent4221
    @strawsofftheneurodivergent4221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    This is such a great talk, learned tons of it!!! Actually carnivore is really the safest way to go.
    And you mention the fructose-oxalate connection. I used to be a fruitarian and I am sure this has cause many of the issues I am now still trying to resolve - although carnivory has really reversed most issues already, in particular the chronic pain in hip, lower back, joints and muscles - I am still not exactly sure if it was Vit D deficiency of 4 years veganism or oxalate deposits or both??

    • @strawsofftheneurodivergent4221
      @strawsofftheneurodivergent4221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Dolly Madeson Rather I saw the darkness - ha ha so I crawled out of it

    • @belindahart1255
      @belindahart1255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      We supplemented tonnes of VitD for over a year and it didn't help a stitch. Within 3 days of carnivore my daughters JIA seemed to disappear

    • @HCW2855HCW
      @HCW2855HCW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm confused between meat and plants bc they say meat decreases your longevity (increasing mTOR). I'ld rather just eat meat but following Dr. Gundry right now.

    • @ashleybutler86
      @ashleybutler86 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍😔,thanks for this

    • @dougmartin7129
      @dougmartin7129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Charles Windham , check out Paul Saladino

  • @eddie2378
    @eddie2378 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    For me no more join pains even after intense gymnastics training ever since i went carnivore. Thanks Elloit a million times. I never really liked leafy greens and most veggies as a kid, I never knew why but now it makes a perfect sense.

    • @NizJazzBTC
      @NizJazzBTC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How long did it take for the pain to stop? Thanks

  • @ur.fav.evelyn
    @ur.fav.evelyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I quit straight away... went full carnivore from high oxalate keto. Im 8 months in now. I didn't know we should go slow. 😬I don't know if I've had dumping but I've had 3 cycles of bad headache/ toothache pain. But haven't noticed any crystals. 🤷‍♀️ very very interesting!

    • @juliametcalf2660
      @juliametcalf2660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Took magnesium to get rid of occalates... cramps would show up in my lower legs but with more blood flow they went away easily. ...lasted for several months & now seem totally gone...

    • @decevious
      @decevious 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@juliametcalf2660 oh does mag help the same way calcium would? Because I would rather take mag :)
      What form? Citrate or ?

    • @juliametcalf2660
      @juliametcalf2660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@decevious ...used the calcite type as I heard it was the best, but don't overdo....am now experimenting with magnesium oil (a spray to use at night 'cuz mag supposedly is well absorbed thru the skin) ...good luck ....ps the cramps are still gone & my flexibility is great=a result of oxalate dumping?

    • @juliametcalf2660
      @juliametcalf2660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@decevious should have been citrate...

    • @lvncsr6166
      @lvncsr6166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Had jaw pain and face pain so yes, that's part of oxalate dumping.

  • @bronwenmakepeace8682
    @bronwenmakepeace8682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My goodness what a knowledgeable man!! I got so ill last year 😩 then took antibiotics and well the poo hit the fan.. im seeing a functional nutrition doctor in London and he's just like elliot. So clever. Im just starting my journey thanks for the info im just learning as much as I can. 3 hours went so fast I so enjoyed it!! Thanks guys!!

  • @stevennoren8922
    @stevennoren8922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Been down the road with oxalates and not a lot of fun had dumping when I cut it out and went carnivore they were coming out of my eyes ears every joint so I say goodbye to all the veggies thank you.

    • @aydnofastro-action1788
      @aydnofastro-action1788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Steven Noren dis you have intense itching? I’ve had it for months up and down the inside of both legs. Always starts when I try to sleep. I so had “Keto rash” on my abdomen. I know all this is oxalate dumping. I’m a believer!

    • @lvncsr6166
      @lvncsr6166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aydnofastro-action1788 I experienced this itching on my legs, back and arms. Since switching to keto/carnivore it has stopped.

    • @jules9628
      @jules9628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When you said out of your eyes, what do you mean exactly? Did you have any eye problems or pain before? How long did it take for the dumping to stop-did it come and go or just felt bad until it was all over? Im trying to tell the difference between oxalate dumping and fibromyalgia which I have as well as some other weird issues. Been on carnivore 1 month-felt some good days in the beginning but actually have been down or worse as this month went on..... onto month 2.

    • @stevennoren8922
      @stevennoren8922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jules9628 I had no problems with my eyes prior. woke up four in the morning felt like someone poured sand in my eye. I wound up trying eye wash which did nothing and after a hour of suffering with this I used Bioactive Silver Hydrosol also known as Colloidal Silver 20PPM which within 5 minutes cleared the pain in my eyes

    • @lr1732
      @lr1732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jules9628 Fibro is because of all the damage.... most likely related for sure. It can be a long healing journey..... hang in there!!!

  • @annamaria1972
    @annamaria1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow thank you for a very good lecture about oxalates. I have slowly start to reduce oxalates from my diet and even that I have noticed some dumping. Rashes on my throath, armpits, between my breast and joint pain. I ate before a lot of chocolate, almonds and other nuts . Spinache was also a Common food for me especially baby spinache . Turmeric , Cinnamon on a daily basis. I have had a kidney Stone for about 10 years Ago but the doctor didnt advice me what to do to prevent it . Luckily I didnt got more but I have other illness like gut problems, bloating, Hard Stool, celiac disease, joint pain, dry and itchy skin, hand ecsema. So I really want to get rid of oxalates and other poison from My body.

  • @PacificBlue51
    @PacificBlue51 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another more than excellent discussion. 3 hrs. long and still most interesting. Thanks much.

  • @jameskelly6479
    @jameskelly6479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I came here just to learn and I am. I view this subject like a forensic linguist, one was asked once" what system do you use?" And he said "what ever works". So thanks for the info. I'm glad I heard this. I have cured myself of many things because I listen - that's how I learn.

  • @karenpeaden271
    @karenpeaden271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so glad for this....kidney pain...stones are horrible....I'm going to drop my oxalate level...since I eat high and I'm low in calcium...lower oxalates will help me get out of misery . Oxalate binds my calcium runs it into kidney....I'
    I'm changing..to low oxalate...

  • @SokTamo
    @SokTamo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Eliot, thank you very much for pointed me in the right direction! This valuable information is changing my life already! I will contact you to share my experience and I have one autoimune problem that I think this can solve it! God bless!

    • @paweluko
      @paweluko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Has it helped?

  • @KC-kh8df
    @KC-kh8df 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a Medical Medium experience id like to share! But first these talks are an information trove thank you both!
    So it’s 2/2021 & my body tanks. I have no energy & I can do nothing. I have been VERY discouraged with ALL types of Drs & I have given up & that’s why I tried MM.
    I have had fibromyalgia for 35 years. I did very well the first month doing his liver rescue cleanses. He says we can continue on with the veggie fruit diet. I did that along with a low fat meat diet bc I had NAFLD fatty liver. Within 8 months I’m back to being sicker than ever. And here I am doing carnivore & trying not to dump oxalates too fast!

    • @deborahpharaoh4505
      @deborahpharaoh4505 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I too followed the MM trying to heal 35yrs of fibromyalgia. Celery juice that I forced down every day for 2 whole years 😬..no improvements. I do feel oxalates are the problem. Giving it a go. I had only just discovered this information about 6 weeks ago so I have a long way to go. Has your health improved? 🤗

  • @jennielunn2226
    @jennielunn2226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Elliott, you are so informative and interesting. Very easy to listen to. So much knowledge.

  • @Ida-Adriana
    @Ida-Adriana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for the lesson, you're a fantastic teacher! This should be mandatory listening to all practicing doctors

  • @GreasyReecie
    @GreasyReecie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    There's me thinking green smoothies were amazing and would keep me healthy in a time of stress and unable to face food..then BAM!....along comes painful gout like symptoms in one foot. The green smoothie kick has left me sensitive to all packages now

    • @dantan1249
      @dantan1249 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      GreasyReecie what is your BMI?

    • @HappyStar441
      @HappyStar441 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I too had that problem. Most painful.

  • @mflemming2645
    @mflemming2645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Show notes with time stamps of subtopics would've been really nice for an interview this long, but the interview is appreciated nonetheless. Thank you.

    • @EONutrition
      @EONutrition  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Feedback noted and appreciated :)

  • @TapioBlue
    @TapioBlue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The ultimate resource..."achieved for sure". Good work blokes!

  • @juliametcalf2660
    @juliametcalf2660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It's one thing to get rid of a poor diet & feel better on a stricter diet but what happens when you get old enough for those age degenerative issues like macular degeneration, arthritis, Parkinson's, alzheimers, etc...just don't want to put plants into my body

    • @dantan1249
      @dantan1249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Longest loved cultures eat vegetarian mostly with moderate meat consumption. It’s about balance.

  • @austinresch2362
    @austinresch2362 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What an amazing interview. This is actually my first time checking out your channel and the guest. Very impressed with the length and granularity delved into in this discussion. These podcasts are so valuable, I just subbed to your channel and look forward to seeing more of your content.
    Cheers from Canada!

  • @cleanintermittentfasting
    @cleanintermittentfasting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks Gentlemen! amazing how hidden oxalates are for most. I learned so much from the comprehensive (perfect word) video. Keep up the good work. It helps me so much to listen to interviews like this! Sarah

  • @lauracowan100
    @lauracowan100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    49 mins in discussing mitochondrial function, very interesting after having me/cfs 6 years!

  • @SueT55
    @SueT55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Elliot, I’ll be in touch soon!

  • @olenjka55
    @olenjka55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm from Germany... And Keto information starts to get more available here.
    I want to start with Carnivore! But I'm doing it smoothly... Not to hard yesterday low carb and today Carnivore... For me it's better step after step.

    • @annamaria1972
      @annamaria1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It should be done step by step anyway to avoid serious dumping.

  • @linaharan7860
    @linaharan7860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Doctor for this extremely important information!!
    Thank you for all your help!

  • @jo0me03
    @jo0me03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Three years on a carnivore diet and still i’m very tired en have sinds a couple of months arthritis in my hands and knees. I really have my doubts about this theorie!

  • @OMADRevolution
    @OMADRevolution 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was one big knowledge drop! I would like a copy of the updated and most accurate oxalate foods list, please.

  • @bobbyjosson4663
    @bobbyjosson4663 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good interview with loads of good points. The only thing to contemplate is that the sugary or white chocolate replacement for dark chocolate is filled with soya, reportedly 95% of the world's supply is GMO, and even if wasn't normal soya creates estrogen and even without that, those confectionery bars are full of oxidizing inflammatory seed oils. As for eating clay, that's usually to remove the heavy metals, not to make up for a deficient diet.

  • @ranicefreire2611
    @ranicefreire2611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm very curious about all these
    oxalate plants and herbs etc....in India people are mainly vegetarian consume high amounts of cinamon, turmeric etc and they must be doing something we are not,and they dont seam to have oxalates problems. Why is that? What are we missing??

  • @benjaminbritt7862
    @benjaminbritt7862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Spinach, beets, nuts (most), chocolate, certain things that could be healthy but shouldn't be consumed every day!!!

  • @wuggijacek9631
    @wuggijacek9631 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is crazy and from around 28:00 onwards it confirms exactly the symptoms I have had for 2 years. Ever since I switched to the supposedly healthy plant-based diet. I kept having joint pain, fascia pain, aggression, fibromyalgia pain, etc.
    Now after around 5 days of a low-oxalic diet, all of the symptoms have disappeared. Simply crazy!

  • @minibite3
    @minibite3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Citrusfruits and applecider vinigear should be good to dissolve kidneystones? As I understand it, oxolates can turn to kidneystones?

  • @emme4478
    @emme4478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have to give up coffee and dark chocolate??? Ahhhhhhh!!!! Ha! You just said coffee is not that high. Yay!

    • @6789uiop
      @6789uiop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Coffee elimination is a deal breaker in any eating scheme. Just gonna havta suffer if it's a problem.

  • @will_of_europa
    @will_of_europa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The reversal of cancer and the healthier feeling people report when switching to a vegan diet is wholly due to limitation of linoleic acid, not the consumption of vegetables.
    If there is no intake of linoleic acid, inflammation dies down and autophagy can begin it's process faster. The only reason cancer is so prevalent is because autophagy is severely limited when linoleic acid is found in excess.

  • @thebulge6295
    @thebulge6295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Damn !!!! WHo to trust ? Who is right ? This guy is incredibly intelligent and what heis saying might be right. Then we have people like Dr. Michael Grager and Dr. Rhonda Patrick basically going the opposite way. I have friends that are vegetarians and are way more healthy than meat eaters. The deeper and the more I read the more confused I am

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      By "meat eaters" do you mean they eat exclusively animal products or they eat all kinds of plants plus some meat?

    • @carineii6747
      @carineii6747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Recent studies in nutrigenomics have found out that it all depends on genetics. We'll see more and more personalised nutrition in the foreseeable future.
      www.nytimes.com/2003/05/04/magazine/what-your-genes-want-you-to-eat.html

    • @snowyowl6892
      @snowyowl6892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This man is the Gold Standard
      …. you can forget the others

  • @weigu7640
    @weigu7640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have oxalate crystal affected my skin and feeling really painful, used to drink green tea and almond milk, ate large spinach salads, kale, beets.

  • @heythere6983
    @heythere6983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    lectins can go into your nerves and lodge in your brain, they dont simply all get removed. They can cause Parkinson's.I developed some tinnitus years ago and I freaked out and learned about the ear kidney connection, I read green juicing was a good cleanse, I was going HEAVY on juicing tons of greens, my palms instantly peeled , this has happened through the years, iv never been big on plants, always loved steak but heard steak was bad, so I ate chicken and veggies for months, got ripped, but developed health issues, then started the juicing after the tinnitus, which was partly due to being exposed to loud sounds in the schools I worked in because special needs students were always screaming, but the low fat (basically no fat) diet I had I think compromised my myelin sheath and nerves and also the juicing was bad after. I recently have had to use alot of antibiotics and noticed food reactions and peeling the skin on the palms again, I even had sauerkraut thinking it was safe to rebuild my gut and had my hands peel simply on that, I know it was that because I had nothing else but that late at night. I always related it to my kidneys, yet every doctor claims there is no issue with them, thank God it may be true that I have no kidney issues, however, I think its obvious when I react that way, my kidneys are being taxed at times. At that time I was eating chicken and lots of veggies and oatmeal, I also stopped drinking milk. I did carnivore a few months ago, took a break, im doing it again, and getting raw colostrum and grass fed food from now on. This is insane , iv learned alot over the past few months about many of these toxins, its everywhere, its ridiculous, everyone is being poisoned. I was juicing tons of celery, kale, beets, tons of plants all at once.---
    Do lemons have lectins and oxylates? I have a bag but havent touched them lol

    • @StephanieKraft
      @StephanieKraft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Lemon juice will help breakdown oxalates. I'm drinking it every day. I'm a carnivore and experiencing oxalate dumping. I crave the lemon juice actually.

    • @heythere6983
      @heythere6983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StephanieKraft I actually read lemons have low oxalates or something like that. I was drinking alot of lemon juice on carnivore last time but this time since I was on antibiotics that messed w my gut pretty good, atleast till I get better, idk if I want to intake any but IDK. There just isn't alot of info out there yet and probly wont be for years.

    • @sharaihmolyneaux8181
      @sharaihmolyneaux8181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The peel of a lemon has high oxalates and the juice from lemon is very low oxalates. Sally Norton discusses lemons on her Instagram page

    • @heythere6983
      @heythere6983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sharaihmolyneaux8181 thanks

    • @kwesidarkwa5443
      @kwesidarkwa5443 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...hope thr tinnitus is going away with carnivorous diet

  • @ginaogawa308
    @ginaogawa308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi thanks Elliot!you’re very knowledgeable and thank you for sharing valuable information!take care!

  • @mauricebiron8773
    @mauricebiron8773 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good information. Thanks Maurice Biron, Beaumont Alberta.

  • @victoriat.606
    @victoriat.606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for such an explanatory talk, I really appreciate it!!!

  • @EL-yi6df
    @EL-yi6df 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How shall I avoid oxalates? Shall I not eat those fruits/veggies/nuts ?
    Beet greens
    Rhubarb
    Spinach
    Beets
    Swiss chard
    Endive
    Cocoa powder
    Sweet potatoes
    Peanuts
    Turnip greens
    Star fruit

  • @alightinthetent
    @alightinthetent 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, this is definitely a lot, but so fascinating. Thank you both for sharing your insights!
    Unkas, I am so with you on the dark chocolate, and I love your daughter’s logic. 😂 I’ve recently switched over to carob powder to help reduce my cocoa intake, but it’s tough because cocoa is also an energy source for me and my treat to myself. I’m starting supplementation with nutrients I don’t get enough of to help my energy levels, so maybe that will help me. I have enjoyed switching it up with white and milk chocolate recently; it’s just tricky to find low-sugar options. Hence my recent experimentation with carob dessert recipes.😊
    A couple of questions that came up for me:
    1. What’s the difference between oxalate binding with minerals and conjugation?
    2. Does the calcium in some almondmilk an and tofu help mitigate the level of oxalate absorbed in the body?
    I came across this video after viewing videos related to B1 on Elliot’s channel. I had read about oxalate toxicity on a very surface level prior, but what really caught my attention was mention of hypokalemia in connection with oxalate dumping and the level of amount of high oxalate foods in the vegan, vegetarian, and gluten-free diets.
    I was recently diagnosed with Periodic Paralysis (Andersen-Tawil Syndrome is suspect as I have a KCNJ2 mutation) and hEDS which runs in our family. Periodic Paralysis is a group of genetic mutations cause ion channelopathies that can cause hypokalemia.
    I was also vegetarian for about 5 years, vegan for 3.5 of those years, and gluten free for about 10 years which overlapped with my vegetarian/vegan years. I wonder if the combination of high-oxalate foods were particularly troublesome for me due to the periodic paralysis.
    I used to eat SO many potatoes, cinnamon to help regulate blood sugar, occasional spinach, focused on nearly all of my grains being whole grains, tofu, almondmilk, cocoa (dark chocolate especially), SO many beans, nuts, etc., exactly for the reasons you describe. I wanted to not only be healthy, but I was also having long-standing health issues and no health insurance, so I figured I could adjust my diet to see if it helped. And it did seem to help initially. I had more energy, clearer skin. But then I started to feel worse and my health took a nose dive.
    I had panic-attack like episodes, felt on-edge all the time, heart palpitations. I took nutritional yeast to make sure I was getting enough B vitamins and apple cider vinegar to help with my digestion.
    I started having really severe episodes of muscle weakness, arrhythmias, tachycardia, developed POTS, intense migraines.
    I know now that B12 and apple cider vinegar likely caused drastic shift in my potassium levels leading to the drastic increase in muscle weakness, on top of the stress I was dealing with in not knowing what was going on with my health.
    I gradually came out of being vegetarian and gluten free. I had eaten dairy all the time when I was young, but it seemed I could really digest dairy or red meat after being vegan. Nonfat Greek yogurt I could tolerate, so that was my starting point. Non-gluten free oatmeal also became a go-to. Then it was baby steps from there. Under physician guidance, I added magnesium, Vitamin D, and later potassium chloride to my regimen. The potassium chloride helps significantly. I suspect the magnesium and Vitamin D too, but that it’s in a more subtle way.
    It’s been about 7 years since I started reincorporating dairy and meat back into my diet, and I’m in a MUCH better place than I was though I still have digestive (GI wants to test for SIBO and do an endoscopy and has suggested low FODMAP) and neurological issues I’m hoping I can address.
    I switched nutrition apps recently and the new one allows me to see where I’m not meeting the RDA for specific vitamins and minerals including B1, B5, folate, copper, zinc, etc.. My current approach is to start supplementing to see if it improves my symptoms.
    I have noticed that certain high oxalate foods like spinach and quinoa, my body doesn’t seem to do well with. Other foods, like potatoes, tofu, and almondmilk, I seem to do well with but I DO have to combine high-carb foods with protein and/or fats to prevent blood sugar crashes and severe potassium shifts. This seems to be a thing in Periodic Paralysis.
    I really appreciate the clarification that Elliot provides at the very end that this is not for everyone and how it’s all very hypothetical. If anything I’ve learned there’s a lot of wisdom in “Everything in moderation,” and “Be not extreme in any of your ways,” unless off course there’s an allergy or something similar. There’s so much we don’t know, but it sounds like this is a start into an area that we’ll get much better clarity in the years to come.

  • @DetteAvalonFNP
    @DetteAvalonFNP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    WooHoo! Who is this guy!! Great Info! Great presentation. I subscribed! Be Well 💫

  • @organicdudranch
    @organicdudranch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    carnivore for 1 month DAMN i have finally found what works for me,so many problems fixed.try it
    i tried it 9 years ago, i had trouble with red meat and thought i was the wrong blood type (type A ) i mistakenly thought type "O" was the only type good for the carnivore diet, big mistake, i was so messed up that i did have trouble with red meat, the truth is red meat is the very best, especially the highest quality, i raised my own beef, i raised a holstein for meat(usually they are for milk) but they have excellent meat. and great bones for broth. i finally went back to carnivore after 2 years of clean water. that is really a big thing. most people have no idea what is going on with water, they may have heard of flint michigan but they don't put the pieces together. first lesson, YOU CANT TRUST THE GOVERNMENT buy 6 dollar TDS testor and see the crap you are drinking.
    bottom line, we need quality meat, salt and animal fat. animal based food .with some fasting on occasion,that is humans diet for eons,
    and no more poison. we can eat crap but it will hurt us in the long run. we have been lied to by the sources we thought we could trust.

    • @vladimirerfan7721
      @vladimirerfan7721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen! Good quality animal food is where it’s at!

    • @annamaria1972
      @annamaria1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But don't drink the milk from Holstein cows they produce casein A1 milk not Good for your gut .

  • @FiZc
    @FiZc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think Sally Norton has mentioned that some plants can shoot/spit oxalates at people and touching some plants can poison you with oxalates. Any info on houseplants which may cause oxalate problems for us?

    • @aydnofastro-action1788
      @aydnofastro-action1788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      FiZc she also said, “when they discovered it as a compound, they called it the perfect poison”. On Instagram she has a new pic where she found the product made from rhubarb, that was used to remove rust.

    • @Ida-Adriana
      @Ida-Adriana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Poison Ivy Oak and Sumac

    • @susancarmack1
      @susancarmack1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My cat was poisoned eating amaranth sprouts which are high in oxalates and cock’s comb or celosia also deadly for pets also part of the amaranth family of plants. Gordie survived but by the hair of his chinny chin chin. 😻

    • @NatalyaShoror
      @NatalyaShoror 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dieffenbachia, aka dumb cane. My poor silly cat chewed on it, and was drooling and foaming, and kept her mouth open for at least a day, and then was rather miserable for a while. Look it up!

  • @heythere6983
    @heythere6983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    are there oxylates or lectins in maraijuana oil? Iv noticed I tent to twitch when I consume it. I also get phlegm . I also feel like I get bloated ,But I havent found information on this.Wiz kalifa, the rapper, mentioned on the Joe Rogan podcast, he is allergic to certain weed, and makes and only smokes his own.
    EDIT- yes there are oxylates in marijuana, I wonder if smoking instead of oils removes the issue.

    • @Kinghippi3
      @Kinghippi3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think that why im here, mary jane lmk what works for you

    • @bronwenmakepeace8682
      @bronwenmakepeace8682 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here!! I jerk so bad in bed as I'm trying to fall asleep 😴

    • @marejensen8294
      @marejensen8294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bronwenmakepeace8682 MJ lowers your adrenals and that is why you jerk before sleeping....low cortisol.....MJ lowers the cortisol level that is why it makes some people relax but those are people who have too much cortisol....you must have too low cortisol

    • @lr1732
      @lr1732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Once you have been damaged it lowers your tolerance for any of this stuff. What I could handle at one time I can no longer tolerate it because of the deep damage that my body has endured for far too many years. I can't even use herbs anymore (as an herbalist, that is tough for me); but thank goodness for homeopathy.

    • @gingermonroe4153
      @gingermonroe4153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You ingest weed
      Nuts putso😮

  • @lesliegcline
    @lesliegcline 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please post best most current list of oxalate foods!!!

    • @judithpoulin2351
      @judithpoulin2351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trying Low Oxalate group on Facebook.

  • @LyndaHill
    @LyndaHill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wonderful, thanks.

  • @elaineflynn5356
    @elaineflynn5356 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I went through a phase of eating a kiwi or 2 every day and my body became inflamed, the same happened with lemons.

  • @CarnivoreDMD
    @CarnivoreDMD ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is an OLD YT video but I am deep diving AGAIN my Ketovore lifestyle since 2019 that cured my "arthritis" but now having sporadic knuckle pain and stiffness in hands. From this and Sally Norton, it seems that Oxalate dumping can be a multi years and cyclical process even after eliminating almost all oxalate. You cannot remove all because our body makes a little. I had cycled off of 2-3d of high intensity cycling in 2022 to spend more time with my 15yo son whom is a competitive golfer before he starts driving and High School. Those months of no aerobic exercise and sweating really caught up to me. After just 4 days of 50+ minute zone 2-3 exercising and associated very hot South, I believe I have sweated out oxalate via skin (my eyes have had strange mucous for months without resolve too). Now my knuckles no longer hurt and swelling has reduced, I am having normal tears in eyes, hands are slightly stiff but 75% back to normal. DO NOT skip over the need to sweat oxalate out as the skin, kidney and eyes seem to be common pathways.....and it can occur for YEARS. Just ask Sally.

  • @GerardMenmalle
    @GerardMenmalle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello and thank you for this very interesting interview! Oxalate is an exciting sujet, but i don't speak very well english, do you know where can I find an interview like this in french language please? Thank you from Belgium! :D

  • @kathrynnewton8721
    @kathrynnewton8721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just been exposed to this information recently, so insightful and I think this is the cause of my fatigue and brain fog……

  • @ranicefreire2611
    @ranicefreire2611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That is right, I'm from Brazil and rice and beans are a staple food for everyone every day 24/7 for most people. My dad is almost in his 90s and never had big health issues, other then high blood pressure ( off course is caused by his very sweety many cups of coffee a day and too much carbs) he never really eat vegetables other then potatoes, cassava and pampkim. His diet is mainly rice,beans,meats,pampkim, potatoes and cassava...bread,cake, and orange and one banana every day,that's it, and he doesn't drink not even one liter of water per day,,the most couple glasses a day. Now I ask, is it the 2 little water a day really necessary for everyone?? Maybe not. He goes to bed around 8 PM and up by 6 AM ,have a few short naps during the day. His muscles are hard as rocks, doesn't have many gray hair,not too many wrinkles, ( maybe because he used to eat a lot of pig skin, tons of collagen into it) he smoked until close to his 70s, used to drink hard alcohol until close to 65s and yet very healthy. Has more health then many of us who excercises, eat "healthy " avoid sugar,avoid too much fat,avoid too much carbs,avoid too much salt,eat organic, avoid too much pollution, practice meditate,yoga, positive affirmation, detox this, detox that,cleansing parasites, etc.....yet we are not so healthy.

    • @davecopp9356
      @davecopp9356 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was he ever vaxxed? I have a suspicion that maybe we are made ill by the government.

  • @Nottherebutthere
    @Nottherebutthere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Seems to me that we are omnivores. Going 100 percent either carnivore or vegan seems unhealthy. I have tried both, and extremes have caused me the problems.

  • @timzstr
    @timzstr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow great info..no wonder i feel like crap and bones hurts making almond milk with salad and fruit with superfood....carnivore diet saved me ..thank you meat and liver

  • @bkagel21
    @bkagel21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Which form of blueberries are high in oxalates and which are low?

  • @AllThingsConsidered333
    @AllThingsConsidered333 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I surely poisoned myself with oxalates, so many green smoothies and juices, trying to be healthy esp after getting wrecked first from mold then multiple tick diseases. Ugh. Makes me sick just thinking about it. And how these foods are touted as so healthy (spinach, sweet potato, almonds, beet greens, berries, dark chocolate, turmeric, etc.)

  • @lindabell6954
    @lindabell6954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you! Very nice information.

  • @HelmetBlissta
    @HelmetBlissta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Outstanding

  • @lisaarace2951
    @lisaarace2951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have multi nodule goiter and I make smoothies using the power greens 75% with 25% fruit and added flax seeds trying to follow Good bye autoimmune, when I read power greens eaten raw will inflame my thyroid and cause thyroiditis I’m trying-to find out if this is correct. Does anyone know if this is true.

    • @dantan1249
      @dantan1249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lisa Arace interesting. I’m young so I may just be benefiting from that but I drink big kale smoothies and I feel they make my skin clearer and smoother. They make me glow. Idk. My body feels good on 60% veggies 30% dairy and eggs and 10% meat. Moderation. Everything damages your body. It’s about optimizing. Too much animal products lead to cardiovascular disease and too much veggies leads to deficiencies, stomach problems. Kidney stones can come from too much spinach or too much meat. It’s a balancing act. Quiet as it’s kept most of people’s problems are because they don’t exercise and are overweight. They think because they look normal than they must be healthy.

    • @jules9628
      @jules9628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dan tan read carnivore code snd listen to dr berry before believing that about meat being so bad for veins:arteries-a 20 plus yr former vegan here-with autoimmune issues.. the info is quite shocking.

  • @mrmeach1967
    @mrmeach1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:08:51
    Vitamin C (ascorbic acid). The Megadose discussion.

  • @08saaid9
    @08saaid9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He is a cleaver person , as he montioned that we dont need those antioxidants , what actualy we need is the opposite : we need the oxygen , our cells are living from oxygen , the bad pathogens , bacterias , viruses etccc in our body are anaerobic , they meaning is they cant stay in our body as it is full of oxegyn : yhats why i still beleive that mms found by jim humble is the best way (depend on my experience it could break the oxalates and hlyphosates to small parts and makes it easy for the body to throw it away ) together with diet to the healthy life

    • @dw1-norskgaming923
      @dw1-norskgaming923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please tell me more about this! I am a vegetarian, also for humane reasons.
      What is to be done?!
      I really hope You answer!
      Blessings

    • @itsagoodday2165
      @itsagoodday2165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dw1-norskgaming923 switch to more meat if you can. I used to be vegetarian. Once i learned it hurts the planet to grow some of these nuts and veggies. Hope it helps.

    • @snowyowl6892
      @snowyowl6892 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dw1-norskgaming923
      Stop the veg 👈🏿.
      check out Darko Velcek on the truth about vegetables.

  • @venice1115
    @venice1115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From my research people have eaten these foods for decades, the body can cope as long as there is mineral balance, calcium will only bind to oxalates if it's not kept in solution, it needs adequate magnesium for utilisation. Potassium is critical also for calcium metabolism in many enzymes, for eg magnesium phosphate prevents calcification and plaque build up. Also fluoridated water adds to the problem. I'm a celloid therapist also biochemic practitioner too, take note of the following " Magnesium Phosphate balances calcium preventing it precipitating out of solution which can lead to the formation of gall stones, kidney stones, bladder stones, osteoporosis along with Plaque and calcification in the circulatory system"
    So you can eat oxalate foods as long as your taking in enough of the required minerals. The Bible says all seed bearing foods are edible, it mentions a land flowing with milk and Honey, Jesus gave fish and loaves of bread, it's deficiencies and how food is produced these days which is the problem.

    • @dsmith5600
      @dsmith5600 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah....BUT.....we didn't have all the antibiotics/vaxs ruining our immune system.... back when GOD had the bible written....we have damaged systems these days

  • @1andOnlyTotality
    @1andOnlyTotality 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    would love to hear your take on deuterium at some point

  • @ladycactus110
    @ladycactus110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yup! This might be TMI, but I ate 5 blueberries as a test after 11 months of no fruits or vegetables and the next day I had a really itchy ultimate end of gastrointestinal system. Delicacy forbids more precise (or vulgar) nomenclature 😉

    • @VT-kh7uf
      @VT-kh7uf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Apparently, you lost ability to digest those.
      With time you will get severe poisoning from a single flake of paper..
      Your limited diet is harming you, sorry to inform

  • @goanders1598
    @goanders1598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you know anything about uric acid crystals in urin ? Looking for someone to consult with about it . I’ve got a serious overload from what it looks like to me

    • @Ron_the_Skeptic
      @Ron_the_Skeptic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A co-worker's husband takes gout pills purchased here: www.goutcure.com/, he reports the pills work well. I purchased some but have not taken them because I switched to a carnivore diet at the same time and the diet resolved my gout. There is a lot of information at the link. That information indicated to me that red meat and purines might not be the problem, and uric acid is protective against some conditions. Anyway, do your research, decide for yourself.

  • @buildingnumberseven
    @buildingnumberseven ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good interview.

  • @karenpeaden271
    @karenpeaden271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not eating high oxalate foods...thats the only way to lower the body build up? What else helps?

  • @DiggingNorway
    @DiggingNorway 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Its seems to me that oxalates can explain non-infectionary prostatis in men! Unexplained pain in and around the testicles and scrotum

  • @Monjagetitonya
    @Monjagetitonya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great listen!

  • @wandamazzulo779
    @wandamazzulo779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like not eatiing anything 😕 at all....we were taught to eat our vegetables, salads 🥗 juicing, 🥔 🍠 rice, beans, meat, 🐔 🍖 🥓 🧀 and now at 60 got bacteria pyloris" but all my symptoms are 💯 % what 😳 you guys are talking oxalates... Thnk you

    • @vladimirerfan7721
      @vladimirerfan7721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just eat what your Grandma ate ;)

    • @lr1732
      @lr1732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I went 95% carnivore. Not completely, but mostly. Has changed my life. Still healing from years of damage but my life sand health is significantly better.

  • @marietheresa1709
    @marietheresa1709 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is their take on dairy products? Is their a video on dairy? Thank you for great talk!

  • @victoriaoshea4865
    @victoriaoshea4865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That is how I've tried to improve my health. I am having to reconsider my daily regime of raw Green drinks.

  • @radziu7979
    @radziu7979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    kiwi has an proteolytic enzyme called actinidine, and that's what causing the abrasive sensation, same with pineapple, espacially when it's not ripe enough

    • @EONutrition
      @EONutrition  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi! Thanks for telling me about that. There is conflicting information about what causes it. Here is a reference from a paper:
      Watanabe and Takahashi (1998) found that kiwifruit contain total oxalates in the range
      of 10.1- 29.9 mg/100 g FW. These oxalates are largely found as calcium oxalate raphides
      (Rassam and Laing, 2005), which can have a harsh effect in the mouth but are not absorbed in
      the intestinal tract.

    • @radziu7979
      @radziu7979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EONutrition Thx for reference, you might be right then :) Very good podcast, so much information, I've learn a lot :)

    • @paweluko
      @paweluko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EONutrition if they are not absorbed, can they be eaten then?

    • @snowyowl6892
      @snowyowl6892 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pineapple takes the skin right off my mouth mucous membranes.

    • @teresaoftheandes6279
      @teresaoftheandes6279 ปีที่แล้ว

      mine too.

  • @KikiKalena
    @KikiKalena 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is there a transcript? I don’t have time to listen for that long!

    • @KikiKalena
      @KikiKalena 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I did end up listening to it all. Thank you for all the info. I would still love to see a transcript!

  • @StephenCoda
    @StephenCoda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting. I think his liver eating scurvey patient was actually experiencing vitamin A toxicity though.