… hey there Alan- congratulations on your “low oxalates” success👍🏻… I have a question for you in that I’m curious to know what you did to help you to achieve it- and what your food choices were/are which also helped to get there?… thanks and congratulations again!…
Haven't had bladder pain, Candida or UTI for more than 3 years, simply by choosing low oxalate foods! Thank you for educating us on this very important information!
Linda Bell That was the secret for me as well. I had a malignant bladder tumor removed 7 yrs ago after 25+ yrs of 12 UTIs/per year. I developed IC within a month with vulvar pain and pudendal neuralgia. My bones were so weak at 52 that my pelvis broke but radiological proof was “missing.” (The pelvic PT found the breaks easily after I’d been trying to walk for five months!). Oxalates are such a part of this that I still have severe magnesium and thiamine deficiencies and am getting both via IV (almost died). Yet most doctors in the US will actually laugh unless you have frank renal disease. Finally a doc checked how high the mineral loss via urine was. 800% of “normal loss” of 9 minerals. Those are pretty serious numbers. For me the Vulvar Pain Foundation here in Virginia was a godsend. That’s the list. Sally Norton too. The big hospital lists are too contradictory. Finally my hands look normal. Everyone assumed I had rheumatoid arthritis. Been detoxing for 7-8 years and still waiting for true full recovery. Spinach and kale are the DEVIL.
Your video is yet much appreciated. A very fine conversation/interview and esp. lecture. I was impressed that Mandy IC Healer permitted an uninterrupted (so rare) presentation, with quality discussion before and after. Hats off to Mandy for doing so . . . and, as always, to EO Nutrition. Where would we be without Elliott? Rather much more uninformed, I should think.
Elliot you are great , white potatoes everyday, along w huge amounts of iced black tea and hot tea all day w tons of cinnamon, I quit, if I cheat (a cup of tea) I can feel the spikes on my tongue, oxalates are sneaky, thanks for your work. Also my friend w "gout" I made him binge watch you and Sally, he now believes it is ozalates, not uric acid, he was shocked at the foods he ate high in oxalates, he had been blaming meat.
From someone suffering from a collection of these illnesses, this presentation has been extremely helpful. Thank you! [And I love your sweater/jumper!]
Thank you for this valuable information. I suffer from Fibro, IC, Vulvodynia, IBS, Endo. My IC has been bothering me a lot lately. Today I started my low oxalate diet thanks to both of you. I was not aware of the relation and I was consuming spinach every morning in my breakfast including peanut butter. I was also consuming white potatoes on a regular basis. I was one of those cases of traces of blood in urine with negative cultures ending up in the unnecessary intake of antibiotics every two months. I pray this change in diet will be a God send!
@@caterinajones1806 It has been almost 3 months on the LOD (although I don't think at a 100% since LOD food lists are so different and confusing). So far, my IC flares have not been that awful and I have nor been waking up in the middle of the night with the awful rush of anxiety due to bladder pain and urgency. Praying this will be the way to keep my symptoms under control! Thank you for asking!
@@estrellademar7 that’s great. I’m just new to this info and I can see the onset of my symptoms coincided with my start with a gf diet 10 years ago and lots of baking with almonds, spinach smoothies and omg licorice tea! I drink 2-3 cups per night and it seems from the limited info on the net that could be in the 1000s of mgs ! Plus my supplementing with Tumeric to try to control my inflammation! ! So I’m starting low oxylate diet today, I’ve ordered calcium citrate and potassium bicarbonate to go in my water and I’m taking d mannose twice daily. I really hope this will help- was beginning to think this would go on for my lifetime. Wish me luck 🍗
@@caterinajones1806 Best of luck to you. Please don't stop everything at once! I was like you, unwittingly eating plenty of 'super oxalate/super (bad) foods' . . . beets, beet greens, chard, kale kale kale (not just dinosaur, which is the safe one0. Fortunately I had known about spinach, as one can FEEL it taking the calcium off one's teeth (biting into cooked spinach) . . . oh, peanut butter one of my favs. And thus PB or Almonds into every smoothie. And my naturopath had me on a sweet potato diet a few years back (basically) to help 'heal my gut'. Oh, yeah. : (
@@eugeniebreida1583 thanks but I did go whole hog carnivore at once. I did have 2 weeks of symptoms including brain fog and fatigue and my thumb joints hurt. But since then - 4 months now I feel AMAZING! I have no cystitis after years of suffering even with a full and active life (&sex life) - I feel like I have my life back 🙏
Im finally trying to do something now. I was diagnosed in 2016 and have been feeling worse since. My quality of life has so bad. I want this to stop I can't deal anymore
I can't thank you enough for this presentation. I've been looking for relief and this resonates so much. Off to clean out the fridge and pantry. 100 thumbs up!
Summary: - High oxalate foods like potatoes, raspberries, and spinach may contribute to health issues. - Oxalates can interfere with mineral absorption and potentially lead to pain and symptoms. - Common symptoms of oxalate poisoning include urinary issues, pain, and discomfort. - Genetics may play a role in susceptibility to oxalate-related problems. - Oxalates are organic acids found in certain plants, with a strong affinity for minerals. - Insoluble and soluble oxalates can cause irritation and inflammation in the body. - Absorbed oxalates are processed by the liver and excreted through the kidneys. - There is no specific detoxification pathway for oxalates in the body. - Oxalate intake can come from the diet and may not be problematic in small amounts. - High and sustained oxalate consumption can lead to oxalate accumulation in the body. - Excessive oxalate can damage various organs and tissues, affecting the vascular lining, heart, and brain. - Oxalate can bind with calcium and form calcium oxalate crystals in different organs. - Calcium oxalate crystals have been found in organs like the thyroid gland, eyes, joints, and more. - Oxalate deposition can cause mechanical damage, similar to shards of glass, especially in the joints. - High oxalate levels disrupt mineral balance, affecting potassium, sodium, and magnesium. - Oxalate can interfere with cellular enzymes involved in energy production and repair processes. - Oxalate can promote inflammation, potentially contributing to chronic health issues. - Oxalates may be linked to conditions like kidney stones, arthritis-like symptoms, and interstitial cystitis. - Bladder stones, potentially composed of calcium oxalate, can lead to bladder irritation. - The impact of oxalate extends beyond kidney stones and can affect multiple systems in the body. - The bladder is normally protected by a sterile lining and immune cells release secretory IgA as an antiseptic. - Proteoglycans and glycosaminoglycans maintain a moist lining to prevent bacterial adhesion. - Chronic urinary tract infections can weaken the bladder wall, making it more susceptible to bacteria. - Bacteria can aggregate on calcium oxalate crystals, potentially causing infections. - Oxalate stones in soft tissue can create hubs for bacterial growth. - Enterococcus bacteria may be prevalent in chronic UTIs, possibly due to oxalate presence. - Oxalate can deplete vitamins, minerals, and disrupt barrier proteins in the kidneys, bladder, and gut. - High oxalate diets, including superfoods, can lead to oxalate-related health issues. - Oxalate absorption varies among individuals due to gut microbes and gut issues. - Antibiotics and certain factors can disrupt oxalate-degrading microbes in the gut. - Oxalobacter may not thrive in high oxalate environments. - Fat malabsorption can affect calcium processing and oxalate absorption. - Leaky gut can increase oxalate absorption. - Oxalate is produced in small amounts in the human body, and certain conditions can increase its production. - Oxalate can deplete nutrients like vitamin B6 and thiamine. - Dumping occurs when the body liberates oxalate from tissues during a sudden reduction in oxalate intake, potentially worsening symptoms. It's essential to approach oxalate-related health issues holistically and gradually reduce oxalate intake to avoid dumping and acute mineral imbalances. Oxalate Toxicity Symptoms: - Severe and varied symptoms can occur - Emergency room visits due to rapid oxalate elimination - Comprehensive planning is crucial - Oxalates eliminated through gut, kidneys, skin, and more - Symptoms include rashes, cloudy urine, blood in urine, and more - GI symptoms like diarrhea, constipation, anal issues - Oxalate elimination can cycle in individuals - Acute kidney failure risk if oxalate levels spike Testing: - Testing includes 24-hour urinary oxalate level and organic acids test - Organic acids test provides valuable metabolic insights - Investing in tests can save money on unnecessary supplements - Blood chemistry, genetic tests, and organic acids test recommended - Targeted testing is better than guesswork
Great info! I have now stopped my healthy smoothies!! And will start lightly going off high oxalate foods. Finally, i’m receiving answers to my issues, makes sense. Conflicting oxalate level food lists on the internet though. I know you have another video of the foods, could you make an updated video of these foods please?
There's an app, called oxalate food counts. It's made by specialists that measured the oxalate ammounts in many foods, including some processed foods and beverages. So you can be sure those are the correct ones, and you can also calculate how much you ingest / 100 gr product
Lot of crystals are out from my skin and my doctor can't figure out what's happen for my skin problem, since I watch Elliot and Sally's presentation and finally understand the oxalate causes my skin problem. Thank you so much!
So might this be the cause of the ulcerations in the bladder that they find in a lot of IC patients?! Hunner's lesions, I believe they're called. And the GAG layer... Thank you for the wonderful video!
Thank you for addressing bladder stones! I just had three embedded stones removed, and I’ve had IC for 14 years. I asked my urogyn if I should try a low-oxalate diet and she poo-pooed it.
Re interstitial cystitis as a possible nonsense disease, (I had the same opinion of fibromyalgia initially) when I was diagnosed with it, my then pain doctor (a DO) told me that he’d been taught that after end stage cancer, IC has the poorest quality-of-life. I tried the lidocaine infusions and discovered I was allergic to the drug. I also had bladder stones, sinus stones, tonsil stones and a world famous Wash DC hospital was convinced that I had an ovary 20 yrs post full hysterectomy. It was a calcium-ox growth the size of an oyster shell. I had it surgically removed. My bladder can hold 1.5 liters...I had my spinal cord detethered but sadly it didn’t help the neurogenic bladder. *I’ve yet to hear you list one thing from oxalates and thiamine deficiency that I have not been diagnosed with at some point.* Love your posts Elliot!
I'm almost 60 and I guess I have very strong bones because I fall pretty hard while roller blading and I never have an issue. Right now I'm rehabbing a house and I'm jumping off the counter top instead of using the step ladder after paint the space between the ceiling and the kitchen cabinets. I would do a GOOD parasite program, take a food based multivitamin and multi minerals. Magnesium, calcium, vitamin D3+k, boron, calcium, zinc, MSM. Basically I would do a mineral test to find out what my body was missing. I had a lot of issues and nothing improved until I got rid of the many parasites I had first. I can't imagine not being able to lift weights, or do the many other physically demanding things I do every day, so please give my advice a try you have nothing to loose, best of luck. Oh one other thing I do is take digestive enzymes or digestive bitters to aid in absorption of food as well as supplements.
mica onyx Oh, I did all that. I’d had murine rickettsia which can take a very long time to clear. Getting rid of that took 3 yrs. I did the Great Plains org acids test nearly 10 years ago now, and was diagnosed with a compound acute porphyria soon after. MSM isn’t for everyone. Porphyria is both a liver disease and blood disorder which of untreated can look like a psych issue because porphyrins are neurotoxic. Elliot’s posts are so great because he recognizes that there are CYP450 issues in a lot of people with oxalate toxicity and my subtype of porphyria is all about CYP450 dysfunction. I don’t take calcium because I’d need to take the citrate form and I’m allergic to corn (source of most citrate components). And yes, it’s incredibly possible to have allergic reactions to even molecular sources from allergens. I’ve had to become my own authority on my disease because there’s no definitive phenotype for porphyria patients. I was caught in a perfect storm-type situation in that I was exposed to mold and sewage after an earthquake broke the outbound sewage pipe in our yard pushing the waste inside the house. I wasn’t aware how compromised my liver/kidneys were when it happened. I started with 23andMe right away to search for exacerbating genetic data and there was a ton. I went thru NIH’s undiagnosed diseases program, went to Mayo-Rochester, etc etc. Eventually I gave up on saving the house, and decided to save myself instead. The best thing Great Plains showed me was *that Olive Oil (like green smoothies) isn’t always good for you.* (Can’t metabolize it.) Luckily my mom had a medical background and she had taught me a lot. I had some very close calls-an intestinal dissection from undiagnosed Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, hyponatremia from the porphyria almost killed me too. Two kinds of cancer where only surgery was possible-toxic treatment isn’t for hepatic disease. The dissection cost me my ileocecal valve without warning and then fat malabsorption as a secondary issue. (I don’t have Crohn’s but folks with that disease often have that same problem, so I found lots of data from that community). Interestingly, there is a “porphyria diet” that’s been floating around for years and when I compared it to the “autism diet” and the “lC diet” and several others-Lo, they were pretty much identical. They were the vulvadynia diet, which is a low oxalate diet. I knew I had to give it another try now that benefits from the heme arginate treatment for my porphyria had kind of plateaued. Sally K. Norton’s info is great, and she’s working on a low ox e-cookbook. My healing strategy boiled down to asking “but why?” after each supposed definitive diagnosis. Instead of accepting treatment for symptoms I kept researching why things would manifest at all? Eventually the real underlying problems were uncovered and there have been few false steps and misdiagnoses since. “Self-healing” can only go so far. The longer the body is stressed (I vomited away 60lbs in the first 8 weeks after the sewage spill) the more complex the medical sequelae will be. At that point it’s very unrealistic to expect that actual medical doctors can be dismissed. A lot of people don’t want to consider that they have an actual disease process going on that’s been unmasked by an environmental exposure. In my case it was TWO very rare genetic disorders, neither of which has a cure and either can be suddenly fatal. I’ve outlived the usual “sell-by date” for both through determination and luck. For sure one size doesn’t fit all. And nearly everything’s multifactorial. But once you’re truly sure that medical docs have done their utmost, the real hard work starts.
@@micaonyx5301 What parasite protocol did you do that you liked? I've done some over the years that weren't so great and would love a recommendation. TIA
my gut microbiome test shows OXALOBACTER FORMIGENES bacteria is at ZERO .Ive chronic ill health for too long .all this info can only help me. Thanks Elliot and sally Norton for all your research .
@@08saaid9 I think it's unlikely to get that microbe back again, unless it's for sale somehow. And, very sadly, Almost no one didn't use antibiotics 'before problems started', or after they did, or both - and then some. Sad state of health. MD's like to kill things.
@@eugeniebreida1583 cos doctors are prescribing antibiotics to treat a very small health problem but you become surprised by a plenty of other and different sickness automatically after using antibiotics . Exactly the ones to treat helicobacter , it's really a dangerous one , it's the way to an oxalate accumulation . I couldn't find a probiotic with this bacteria . Please if y know something let me know
This is such a great video. It would be great if Mandy or Elliott could delve into thyroid medications, their mechanisms, and why T4 and T3 can cause flares for patients taking them. Straddling IC and hypothyroidism is a miserable place to be!
What an intelligent presentation! Thank you! I have 2 questions: 1- Has there been a link established between liver cysts formation and high oxalate levels? 2- Since there seems to be a logical potential oxalate effect on the creation of diverticulitis and diverticulosis, can the gut heal once further exposure is somewhat minimized? Merci d advance. Prof Frask
Carnivore diet has totally healed my interstitial cystitis and rheumatoid arthritis! I transitioned VERY slowly from my very high oxalate WFPB Vegan diet to full carnivore have had some oxalate dumping periods esp early on my bladder went crazy was up peeing all night what felt like shards of glass but then it subsided but now I’m getting strange sores on my scalp with crystal like scabs forming. Has anyone else had this?
Your body is detoxing still, maybe for a year or two more. Check out Paul Saladino MD interviewing Sally K Norton PhD author of Toxic Super Foods. Make sure your renal function is handling the detox. You might need to go on a little bit of oxalate to keep from dumping these big oxalate reservoirs in our bodies. Good luck!
Try washing your hair with vinegar. I had the same and it went away within a month. I think acidic vinegar has some sort of dissolving it and having it released from the skin as a liquid rather than solid. My doctors diagnosed it multiple things that I found not logical. I got it in addition to hematuria that worsen when I drink tea with cinnamon or turmeric. For 30 years no doctors diagnosed it as IC but when I did keto, suddenly I went crazy going to pee every 2 minutes, I then lost 30 pounds unexplainable as I wasn’t overweight. After watching this video, I realized I had oxalates dumping that caused it and was initiated by keto diet.
@Osirian thank you yes I did the vinegar hair wash and it seems to come and go a bit. I thought it might be a reaction to eggs or histamines as it got so bad I ended up taking an antihistamines which helped and hopefully it's resolved now. You're the only other person I've heard also experience this so thanks for replying!
Hello, have had a ?UTI? for a year now. (Due to catheters due to 38mm bladder stone acting like bathplug.) The stone is radiopaque so will be Calc-Oxalate. Five antibiotics were useless, I finally resorted to use of very high dose vitamins etc, making better. But I suspected actually more a matter of inflammation. I suspected maybe oxalates irritate the bladder (and urethra). Searched oxalate inflammation, found a copy of a Mercola article. Meanwhile Dr Berg has said to dissolve stones with lots of lemon juice (though I used citric acid instead). First day caused tedious tension. Second day came out the other end. Abandoned! But now I have started on 5ml amounts of lemon several times a day. Rapid reduction of pain in both outputs and now able to rush around again. A notable effect of the lemon is that my kidney stones started to occasionally hurt - previously the only sign I had them was when found by scans. Presumably the stones getting loosened, which of course means they are also oxalate!
I ate almond peanut butter that’s got to be what brought this on again in a few days after antibiotics were finished .i just had electrolytes and trace minerals 🤷♀️
@@8675-__ I wish my gut could handle serrapeptase. Sadly it disrupts things/loose stool. It would most certainly clear a lot of scarring/tissue lodged in wrong places/arthritic issues.
@@karenf9137 Karen, I would become a skeleton. Have tried low starch (anti inflam). We were talking about serrapeptase… sadly it gives me loose bowels.
Wow, this was such a good presentation, thank you for sharing this wisdom! By chance, could a pregnant mother (non meat eater) pass oxalate issues to a fetus? Perhaps contributing to a malformed bladder valve and resulting in the child's diagnosis of "vesicoureteral-reflux" ? Can a zero carb diet facilitate the healing of this situation... The child is on daily antibiotics and obviously this is not a solution. Thanks 🙏
Does anypne know if the oxylates in plants are lower if you sprout them from seeds? I have mung bean, broccoli, and watercress that I was going to sprout. I am new to learning about oxylates so do not know where to find this info.
Nuts and seeds tend to contain high amounts of oxalates, so any seed is suspect if you're sensitive. Pumpkin seeds , watermelon seeds, sunflower and flax are among the safest, as they contain lower amounts. Oils and fats, even when extracted from plants, are all low in oxalates Cure cystitis (UTI) with bearberry (Uva Ursi) Antibacterial, bearberry is recommended to treat urinary tract infections. th-cam.com/video/znDILz7mInc/w-d-xo.html
I’m on a very low carb diet and not much vege. I do occasionally have some itching/rash and burning feet. Aside from other causes could this be a symptom of “Dumping” Oxalates. I’ve only been on this diet (life style change) for 5 months and was a super food veggie guy prior to the diet (lots of spinach, beet root nuts almonds and occasional chocolate). Thanks.
Beetroot is VERY high as are beet greens. I'd highly recommend Sally K NORTONS book Toxic Superfoods. It's got really comprehensive lists of foods and fantastic advice for cutting down oxylates. Highly recommend. She has done lots of TH-cam interviews on various podcasts, too. She's highly engaging and very informative.
I had 8 kidney stones last year and now I have granules that make my skin itch and tingle coming out of my skin but I don't eat any of the things listed. Have had oab all my life and when my urine is tested they always find blood but no infection. No doctor has been able to fix my itchy skin. Intresting video.
@@DirectorHMAN Its probably because I have postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome and have to have alot of salt to prevent fainting. My skin issue was diagnosed as neurodermatitis.
I love Eliot ❤ I took high B thiamine for a couple months and brought me out of a brain fog . Now I’m doing carnivore and 4th time I feel like I’m getting UTI but now I think I have a probkem
Whenever I take herbs for my kidney and gallstones, my whole gut gets inflamed and irritated. I don’t know what to take to dissolve them and calm the inflammation. I need to eat.
The best info on OXALATES youve done , oxalate doesn't go anywhere until it is chelated with ions ! it is separated I presume in the organells then rebinds it must force it via osmotic grdienst I guess but always will want to cling back to kidney tubules etc the liposome bdidng is necessary yes the Liver and kidneys are I think damaged , it IS metabolized via phosphate and glycolytic pathways back into other metabolites , but yes after 6 days bicohemm research it is a slow silent killer I'm afraid , but we do need a certain amount it kick starts or supercharges the immune system so a certain amount distributed IS need there is a lot we do NOT know , all arthritis oxalate is a culprit I am afraid . PLEAE do one e on DETOX , EDTA< CITRIC ACID < CALCIUM ETC . Yep have exp after last 3 days and it seems correct . Grow the right plants in allotment , exacerbated by my lack of teeth .
When you say oxalates can appear in the eyes, how would that present? I have had several bouts of yellow eyes, but all my liver function is good and I was recently diagnosed with IC
It feels like you have a grain of sand in you eye. It moves around and works it way out. You may get several in a day. A dab of coconut oil in you oil can relieve you eyes.
Lee reen are you saying a drop of coconut oil in the eye helps? Cause you said a drop of it in your oil so that wasn't clear. Perhaps you meant eyes? I know taking coconut oil orally moisturizes the entire body.
@@josieb3238 yes! I went on carnivore after being keto for several years- which included large amounts of oxylates- I had dumping and i could not understand why my eyes would have Sandy grains ! It's itchy and grainy and this the first explanation i have found!
I have a camp toilet I use a lot for only urination though. I noticed the sides of the bucket are plastered with like an eighth of an inch of what must be oxalates. It looks like very course sand paper. So is that good or bad news? At least my body is expelling it or I assume most if not all. Although as their making there way through the body would it cause harm?
I know this is an old post, but yes, I’m almost a year carnivore and have now been suffering for months with IC. Did two rounds of antibiotics for uti and I’m still in pain I believe from Ox dumping. I’m trying Elliot’s supplements to see if I can get any help. Magnesium/Potassium do help a lot. Have you recovered??
@ginaseery5292 pretty much! Comes and goes very mild here and there but seemed to be oxylate dumping related. Seemed to last about 7 mo for me. I've been steadily feeling better and better than i have in 10yrs 👍
Thank you so much for replying!🙂 That’s wonderful that you just keep feeling better! It gives me hope that this will improve. I was almost ready to quit carnivore but will continue. Did you add anything to your diet or take any supplements that helped you to get through the dumping?
I have to query the listing of kiwi and plantain as “very high”. I think this depends on ripeness. Kiwi causes the mouth problem if it is UNDER-RIPE. It then has a very sharp taste. But if ripe there is no problem. Likewise underripe plantain tastes very bitter, but when ripe it loses that bitterness..
Lenore Paletta My son has been keto and now carnivore and hoping for low calcium scores, but he was keto for over a year with no sugar and he still had super high calcium score.
@@catrinaitaliano8755 Sadly, the calcium score is what is LODGED into the arteries, not what is circulating. I would be afraid to see mine... But now that I know what 'not to do', as well as the minerals that I need to add in (including calcium! esp Calcium Citrate), I would hope the cleansing/dumping can commence...
i quit oxalates since 3 days, was eating many oats, dark chocolate, fruits, potatoes before.. iam suffering hard now... can anyone tell me if there is a connection between oxalates and depression? my depression got worse at the moment together with other symptoms(muscle pain). I do not know if it is currently because I eat a very smal amount of carbohydrates or oxalates dumping.
I would think so, as oxolates block minerals like iron, calcium, magnesium, potassium and probably vitamins as well like b12. Being nutrient deficient is certainly a contributor to depression.
Yes I had the same- i went on carnivore and got way worse! Sou ds like dumping is what it is I went back to some oxylates to stop the dumping This time I will slowly decrease oxylates to prevent dumping
While glyphosate is toxic it’s not the cause of oxalates. Vegetables, primarily the super greens like spinach, Swiss chard, Kale, etc. all have (grown with) defense chemicals called oxalates aka oxalic acid.
Since going low Oxalate I have managed to reduce my frequent nightly trips to the bathroom to 1 , it was exhausting, what a relief !
… hey there Alan- congratulations on your “low oxalates” success👍🏻… I have a question for you in that I’m curious to know what you did to help you to achieve it- and what your food choices were/are which also helped to get there?… thanks and congratulations again!…
@@joetoe9947 Go carnivore
Haven't had bladder pain, Candida or UTI for more than 3 years, simply by choosing low oxalate foods! Thank you for educating us on this very important information!
Linda Bell That was the secret for me as well. I had a malignant bladder tumor removed 7 yrs ago after 25+ yrs of 12 UTIs/per year. I developed IC within a month with vulvar pain and pudendal neuralgia. My bones were so weak at 52 that my pelvis broke but radiological proof was “missing.” (The pelvic PT found the breaks easily after I’d been trying to walk for five months!). Oxalates are such a part of this that I still have severe magnesium and thiamine deficiencies and am getting both via IV (almost died). Yet most doctors in the US will actually laugh unless you have frank renal disease.
Finally a doc checked how high the mineral loss via urine was. 800% of “normal loss” of 9 minerals. Those are pretty serious numbers.
For me the Vulvar Pain Foundation here in Virginia was a godsend. That’s the list. Sally Norton too. The big hospital lists are too contradictory. Finally my hands look normal. Everyone assumed I had rheumatoid arthritis. Been detoxing for 7-8 years and still waiting for true full recovery. Spinach and kale are the DEVIL.
Rose Zingleman I'm so happy for you! I worked with Sally. Hope this helps many others who are suffering!
Rose Zingleman I feel your pain, suffering, and agony. I just realized that this is happening to me! I pray that we all get better. ❤️🙏
, every day I learn more about IC symptoms
related with high oxalate diet 🙏
This video es pure gold. So comforting listening to doctors that actually know what they are talking about. All my love and gratitud to you guys 👉🏻❤️
Your video is yet much appreciated. A very fine conversation/interview and esp. lecture. I was impressed that Mandy IC Healer permitted an uninterrupted (so rare) presentation, with quality discussion before and after. Hats off to Mandy for doing so . . . and, as always, to EO Nutrition. Where would we be without Elliott? Rather much more uninformed, I should think.
I have this issue and it took me over 3 years to figure it out. Thank you. 🙏❤️
Elliot you are great , white potatoes everyday, along w huge amounts of iced black tea and hot tea all day w tons of cinnamon, I quit, if I cheat (a cup of tea) I can feel the spikes on my tongue, oxalates are sneaky, thanks for your work. Also my friend w "gout" I made him binge watch you and Sally, he now believes it is ozalates, not uric acid, he was shocked at the foods he ate high in oxalates, he had been blaming meat.
It's oxalates. manifests exactly like gout, blood test will show no high uric acid
One cup of tea causes issues on your tongue? What tea is that?
N e kind tea
Tea has tannins like f leathering!😊
From someone suffering from a collection of these illnesses, this presentation has been extremely helpful. Thank you! [And I love your sweater/jumper!]
Thank you for this valuable information. I suffer from Fibro, IC, Vulvodynia, IBS, Endo. My IC has been bothering me a lot lately. Today I started my low oxalate diet thanks to both of you. I was not aware of the relation and I was consuming spinach every morning in my breakfast including peanut butter. I was also consuming white potatoes on a regular basis. I was one of those cases of traces of blood in urine with negative cultures ending up in the unnecessary intake of antibiotics every two months. I pray this change in diet will be a God send!
How did you go?
@@caterinajones1806 It has been almost 3 months on the LOD (although I don't think at a 100% since LOD food lists are so different and confusing). So far, my IC flares have not been that awful and I have nor been waking up in the middle of the night with the awful rush of anxiety due to bladder pain and urgency. Praying this will be the way to keep my symptoms under control! Thank you for asking!
@@estrellademar7 that’s great. I’m just new to this info and I can see the onset of my symptoms coincided with my start with a gf diet 10 years ago and lots of baking with almonds, spinach smoothies and omg licorice tea! I drink 2-3 cups per night and it seems from the limited info on the net that could be in the 1000s of mgs ! Plus my supplementing with Tumeric to try to control my inflammation! ! So I’m starting low oxylate diet today, I’ve ordered calcium citrate and potassium bicarbonate to go in my water and I’m taking d mannose twice daily. I really hope this will help- was beginning to think this would go on for my lifetime. Wish me luck 🍗
@@caterinajones1806 Best of luck to you. Please don't stop everything at once! I was like you, unwittingly eating plenty of 'super oxalate/super (bad) foods' . . . beets, beet greens, chard, kale kale kale (not just dinosaur, which is the safe one0. Fortunately I had known about spinach, as one can FEEL it taking the calcium off one's teeth (biting into cooked spinach) . . . oh, peanut butter one of my favs. And thus PB or Almonds into every smoothie.
And my naturopath had me on a sweet potato diet a few years back (basically) to help 'heal my gut'. Oh, yeah. : (
@@eugeniebreida1583 thanks but I did go whole hog carnivore at once. I did have 2 weeks of symptoms including brain fog and fatigue and my thumb joints hurt. But since then - 4 months now I feel AMAZING! I have no cystitis after years of suffering even with a full and active life (&sex life) - I feel like I have my life back 🙏
Don’t even know what to say.... I’m just blown away thank you so much!
Awesome information! Thank you for your hardwork and dedication to helping others find a solution to poor health or health ailments. God bless you
Great vid thank you. Can you please publish the first slide with the foods that are high, moderate and low i think everyone can benefit from it
Im finally trying to do something now. I was diagnosed in 2016 and have been feeling worse since. My quality of life has so bad. I want this to stop I can't deal anymore
I can't thank you enough for this presentation. I've been looking for relief and this resonates so much. Off to clean out the fridge and pantry. 100 thumbs up!
Summary:
- High oxalate foods like potatoes, raspberries, and spinach may contribute to health issues.
- Oxalates can interfere with mineral absorption and potentially lead to pain and symptoms.
- Common symptoms of oxalate poisoning include urinary issues, pain, and discomfort.
- Genetics may play a role in susceptibility to oxalate-related problems.
- Oxalates are organic acids found in certain plants, with a strong affinity for minerals.
- Insoluble and soluble oxalates can cause irritation and inflammation in the body.
- Absorbed oxalates are processed by the liver and excreted through the kidneys.
- There is no specific detoxification pathway for oxalates in the body.
- Oxalate intake can come from the diet and may not be problematic in small amounts.
- High and sustained oxalate consumption can lead to oxalate accumulation in the body.
- Excessive oxalate can damage various organs and tissues, affecting the vascular lining, heart, and brain.
- Oxalate can bind with calcium and form calcium oxalate crystals in different organs.
- Calcium oxalate crystals have been found in organs like the thyroid gland, eyes, joints, and more.
- Oxalate deposition can cause mechanical damage, similar to shards of glass, especially in the joints.
- High oxalate levels disrupt mineral balance, affecting potassium, sodium, and magnesium.
- Oxalate can interfere with cellular enzymes involved in energy production and repair processes.
- Oxalate can promote inflammation, potentially contributing to chronic health issues.
- Oxalates may be linked to conditions like kidney stones, arthritis-like symptoms, and interstitial cystitis.
- Bladder stones, potentially composed of calcium oxalate, can lead to bladder irritation.
- The impact of oxalate extends beyond kidney stones and can affect multiple systems in the body.
- The bladder is normally protected by a sterile lining and immune cells release secretory IgA as an antiseptic.
- Proteoglycans and glycosaminoglycans maintain a moist lining to prevent bacterial adhesion.
- Chronic urinary tract infections can weaken the bladder wall, making it more susceptible to bacteria.
- Bacteria can aggregate on calcium oxalate crystals, potentially causing infections.
- Oxalate stones in soft tissue can create hubs for bacterial growth.
- Enterococcus bacteria may be prevalent in chronic UTIs, possibly due to oxalate presence.
- Oxalate can deplete vitamins, minerals, and disrupt barrier proteins in the kidneys, bladder, and gut.
- High oxalate diets, including superfoods, can lead to oxalate-related health issues.
- Oxalate absorption varies among individuals due to gut microbes and gut issues.
- Antibiotics and certain factors can disrupt oxalate-degrading microbes in the gut.
- Oxalobacter may not thrive in high oxalate environments.
- Fat malabsorption can affect calcium processing and oxalate absorption.
- Leaky gut can increase oxalate absorption.
- Oxalate is produced in small amounts in the human body, and certain conditions can increase its production.
- Oxalate can deplete nutrients like vitamin B6 and thiamine.
- Dumping occurs when the body liberates oxalate from tissues during a sudden reduction in oxalate intake, potentially worsening symptoms.
It's essential to approach oxalate-related health issues holistically and gradually reduce oxalate intake to avoid dumping and acute mineral imbalances.
Oxalate Toxicity Symptoms:
- Severe and varied symptoms can occur
- Emergency room visits due to rapid oxalate elimination
- Comprehensive planning is crucial
- Oxalates eliminated through gut, kidneys, skin, and more
- Symptoms include rashes, cloudy urine, blood in urine, and more
- GI symptoms like diarrhea, constipation, anal issues
- Oxalate elimination can cycle in individuals
- Acute kidney failure risk if oxalate levels spike
Testing:
- Testing includes 24-hour urinary oxalate level and organic acids test
- Organic acids test provides valuable metabolic insights
- Investing in tests can save money on unnecessary supplements
- Blood chemistry, genetic tests, and organic acids test recommended
- Targeted testing is better than guesswork
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Great info! I have now stopped my healthy smoothies!! And will start lightly going off high oxalate foods. Finally, i’m receiving answers to my issues, makes sense. Conflicting oxalate level food lists on the internet though.
I know you have another video of the foods, could you make an updated video of these foods please?
There's an app, called oxalate food counts. It's made by specialists that measured the oxalate ammounts in many foods, including some processed foods and beverages. So you can be sure those are the correct ones, and you can also calculate how much you ingest / 100 gr product
Lot of crystals are out from my skin and my doctor can't figure out what's happen for my skin problem, since I watch Elliot and Sally's presentation and finally understand the oxalate causes my skin problem. Thank you so much!
Elliot looks very young
So might this be the cause of the ulcerations in the bladder that they find in a lot of IC patients?! Hunner's lesions, I believe they're called. And the GAG layer... Thank you for the wonderful video!
Thank you for addressing bladder stones! I just had three embedded stones removed, and I’ve had IC for 14 years. I asked my urogyn if I should try a low-oxalate diet and she poo-pooed it.
Im so happy to hear all off this. I will be scheduling my next appt with you right now. I already got my blood work.
My favorite treat was dark chocolate covered almonds that was until I found out about oxalates! I still think no oxalate is better than low oxalate.
please research Oxalate dumping by Sally K Norton and also EONutrition.
@@healthconscience4931 I have which is why I eliminated chocolate covered almonds.
Re interstitial cystitis as a possible nonsense disease, (I had the same opinion of fibromyalgia initially) when I was diagnosed with it, my then pain doctor (a DO) told me that he’d been taught that after end stage cancer, IC has the poorest quality-of-life. I tried the lidocaine infusions and discovered I was allergic to the drug. I also had bladder stones, sinus stones, tonsil stones and a world famous Wash DC hospital was convinced that I had an ovary 20 yrs post full hysterectomy. It was a calcium-ox growth the size of an oyster shell. I had it surgically removed. My bladder can hold 1.5 liters...I had my spinal cord detethered but sadly it didn’t help the neurogenic bladder.
*I’ve yet to hear you list one thing from oxalates and thiamine deficiency that I have not been diagnosed with at some point.*
Love your posts Elliot!
I'm almost 60 and I guess I have very strong bones because I fall pretty hard while roller blading and I never have an issue. Right now I'm rehabbing a house and I'm jumping off the counter top instead of using the step ladder after paint the space between the ceiling and the kitchen cabinets. I would do a GOOD parasite program, take a food based multivitamin and multi minerals. Magnesium, calcium, vitamin D3+k, boron, calcium, zinc, MSM. Basically I would do a mineral test to find out what my body was missing. I had a lot of issues and nothing improved until I got rid of the many parasites I had first. I can't imagine not being able to lift weights, or do the many other physically demanding things I do every day, so please give my advice a try you have nothing to loose, best of luck. Oh one other thing I do is take digestive enzymes or digestive bitters to aid in absorption of food as well as supplements.
mica onyx Oh, I did all that. I’d had murine rickettsia which can take a very long time to clear. Getting rid of that took 3 yrs. I did the Great Plains org acids test nearly 10 years ago now, and was diagnosed with a compound acute porphyria soon after. MSM isn’t for everyone. Porphyria is both a liver disease and blood disorder which of untreated can look like a psych issue because porphyrins are neurotoxic. Elliot’s posts are so great because he recognizes that there are CYP450 issues in a lot of people with oxalate toxicity and my subtype of porphyria is all about CYP450 dysfunction. I don’t take calcium because I’d need to take the citrate form and I’m allergic to corn (source of most citrate components). And yes, it’s incredibly possible to have allergic reactions to even molecular sources from allergens. I’ve had to become my own authority on my disease because there’s no definitive phenotype for porphyria patients. I was caught in a perfect storm-type situation in that I was exposed to mold and sewage after an earthquake broke the outbound sewage pipe in our yard pushing the waste inside the house. I wasn’t aware how compromised my liver/kidneys were when it happened. I started with 23andMe right away to search for exacerbating genetic data and there was a ton. I went thru NIH’s undiagnosed diseases program, went to Mayo-Rochester, etc etc. Eventually I gave up on saving the house, and decided to save myself instead. The best thing Great Plains showed me was *that Olive Oil (like green smoothies) isn’t always good for you.*
(Can’t metabolize it.) Luckily my mom had a medical background and she had taught me a lot. I had some very close calls-an intestinal dissection from undiagnosed Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, hyponatremia from the porphyria almost killed me too. Two kinds of cancer where only surgery was possible-toxic treatment isn’t for hepatic disease. The dissection cost me my ileocecal valve without warning and then fat malabsorption as a secondary issue. (I don’t have Crohn’s but folks with that disease often have that same problem, so I found lots of data from that community). Interestingly, there is a “porphyria diet” that’s been floating around for years and when I compared it to the “autism diet” and the “lC diet” and several others-Lo, they were pretty much identical. They were the vulvadynia diet, which is a low oxalate diet. I knew I had to give it another try now that benefits from the heme arginate treatment for my porphyria had kind of plateaued. Sally K. Norton’s info is great, and she’s working on a low ox e-cookbook.
My healing strategy boiled down to asking “but why?” after each supposed definitive diagnosis. Instead of accepting treatment for symptoms I kept researching why things would manifest at all? Eventually the real underlying problems were uncovered and there have been few false steps and misdiagnoses since.
“Self-healing” can only go so far. The longer the body is stressed (I vomited away 60lbs in the first 8 weeks after the sewage spill) the more complex the medical sequelae will be. At that point it’s very unrealistic to expect that actual medical doctors can be dismissed. A lot of people don’t want to consider that they have an actual disease process going on that’s been unmasked by an environmental exposure. In my case it was TWO very rare genetic disorders, neither of which has a cure and either can be suddenly fatal. I’ve outlived the usual “sell-by date” for both through determination and luck. For sure one size doesn’t fit all. And nearly everything’s multifactorial. But once you’re truly sure that medical docs have done their utmost, the real hard work starts.
Oh do not jump off counters
I did that n sprained my foot n had t wear a boot!😊
Take care of all body parts😊
@@micaonyx5301 What parasite protocol did you do that you liked? I've done some over the years that weren't so great and would love a recommendation. TIA
my gut microbiome test shows OXALOBACTER FORMIGENES bacteria is at ZERO .Ive chronic ill health for too long .all this info can only help me.
Thanks Elliot and sally Norton for all your research .
Is there any chance to get back this bacterie again ? And did y use antibiotics before yr health problems started?
@@08saaid9 I think it's unlikely to get that microbe back again, unless it's for sale somehow. And, very sadly, Almost no one didn't use antibiotics 'before problems started', or after they did, or both - and then some. Sad state of health. MD's like to kill things.
@@eugeniebreida1583 cos doctors are prescribing antibiotics to treat a very small health problem but you become surprised by a plenty of other and different sickness automatically after using antibiotics . Exactly the ones to treat helicobacter , it's really a dangerous one , it's the way to an oxalate accumulation . I couldn't find a probiotic with this bacteria . Please if y know something let me know
Which probiotics did you take?
@@08saaid9bro i have same theory that antibiotics os the culprit
This is such a great video. It would be great if Mandy or Elliott could delve into thyroid medications, their mechanisms, and why T4 and T3 can cause flares for patients taking them. Straddling IC and hypothyroidism is a miserable place to be!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge in this video
What an intelligent presentation! Thank you! I have 2 questions: 1- Has there been a link established between liver cysts formation and high oxalate levels? 2- Since there seems to be a logical potential oxalate effect on the creation of diverticulitis and diverticulosis, can the gut heal once further exposure is somewhat minimized? Merci d advance. Prof Frask
Awesome presentation. Huge Thanks for this info.
this video is full of amazing information, and this sweater is full of amazing christmas spirit.
Hi Mandy and Elliot, I know this is an older video, but would you recommend going carnivore with IC/BPS? I would appreciate your answer. Thank you.
Great presentation thank you both you you🙏🏻
Merci…je vais essayer tout cela…
Carnivore diet has totally healed my interstitial cystitis and rheumatoid arthritis! I transitioned VERY slowly from my very high oxalate WFPB Vegan diet to full carnivore have had some oxalate dumping periods esp early on my bladder went crazy was up peeing all night what felt like shards of glass but then it subsided but now I’m getting strange sores on my scalp with crystal like scabs forming. Has anyone else had this?
Your body is detoxing still, maybe for a year or two more. Check out Paul Saladino MD interviewing Sally K Norton PhD author of Toxic Super Foods. Make sure your renal function is handling the detox. You might need to go on a little bit of oxalate to keep from dumping these big oxalate reservoirs in our bodies. Good luck!
Try washing your hair with vinegar. I had the same and it went away within a month. I think acidic vinegar has some sort of dissolving it and having it released from the skin as a liquid rather than solid. My doctors diagnosed it multiple things that I found not logical. I got it in addition to hematuria that worsen when I drink tea with cinnamon or turmeric. For 30 years no doctors diagnosed it as IC but when I did keto, suddenly I went crazy going to pee every 2 minutes, I then lost 30 pounds unexplainable as I wasn’t overweight. After watching this video, I realized I had oxalates dumping that caused it and was initiated by keto diet.
@Osirian thank you yes I did the vinegar hair wash and it seems to come and go a bit. I thought it might be a reaction to eggs or histamines as it got so bad I ended up taking an antihistamines which helped and hopefully it's resolved now. You're the only other person I've heard also experience this so thanks for replying!
How's your IC these days?
I think it is a dumping symptom
Hello, have had a ?UTI? for a year now. (Due to catheters due to 38mm bladder stone acting like bathplug.) The stone is radiopaque so will be Calc-Oxalate. Five antibiotics were useless, I finally resorted to use of very high dose vitamins etc, making better.
But I suspected actually more a matter of inflammation. I suspected maybe oxalates irritate the bladder (and urethra). Searched oxalate inflammation, found a copy of a Mercola article. Meanwhile Dr Berg has said to dissolve stones with lots of lemon juice (though I used citric acid instead). First day caused tedious tension. Second day came out the other end. Abandoned!
But now I have started on 5ml amounts of lemon several times a day. Rapid reduction of pain in both outputs and now able to rush around again.
A notable effect of the lemon is that my kidney stones started to occasionally hurt - previously the only sign I had them was when found by scans. Presumably the stones getting loosened, which of course means they are also oxalate!
Aw, Elliot, cute sweater!!!!
I ate almond peanut butter that’s got to be what brought this on again in a few days after antibiotics were finished .i just had electrolytes and trace minerals 🤷♀️
Excellent information! I have ic and it’s misery . My holistic doc recommended calcium lactate . Is that as good calcium citrate ?
Why not take both? I think that's what I'd do. As it is I am taking citrate.
Very interesting. Do you think oxalates could contribute to endometriosis?
Yes & no...but try serrapeptase it helps alot for arthritis and endometriosis
@@8675-__ I wish my gut could handle serrapeptase. Sadly it disrupts things/loose stool. It would most certainly clear a lot of scarring/tissue lodged in wrong places/arthritic issues.
@@eugeniebreida1583 have you tried a low carb high fat diet? LCHF helps lots of people.
@@karenf9137 Karen, I would become a skeleton. Have tried low starch (anti inflam). We were talking about serrapeptase… sadly it gives me loose bowels.
Hey what is seraphim stuff, would that b good f severe constipation 😊
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Buckwheat has always made my mouth and throat itchy. Oxalates are probably why.
Thanks for this video. You mentioned the Clostridia markers in the OAT test. Do you have any materials related to that subject?
Thank you so much❤
Wow, this was such a good presentation, thank you for sharing this wisdom!
By chance, could a pregnant mother (non meat eater) pass oxalate issues to a fetus? Perhaps contributing to a malformed bladder valve and resulting in the child's diagnosis of "vesicoureteral-reflux" ?
Can a zero carb diet facilitate the healing of this situation... The child is on daily antibiotics and obviously this is not a solution.
Thanks 🙏
Does anypne know if the oxylates in plants are lower if you sprout them from seeds? I have mung bean, broccoli, and watercress that I was going to sprout. I am new to learning about oxylates so do not know where to find this info.
Nuts and seeds tend to contain high amounts of oxalates, so any seed is suspect if you're sensitive. Pumpkin seeds , watermelon seeds, sunflower and flax are among the safest, as they contain lower amounts. Oils and fats, even when extracted from plants, are all low in oxalates
Cure cystitis (UTI) with bearberry (Uva Ursi)
Antibacterial, bearberry is recommended to treat urinary tract infections.
th-cam.com/video/znDILz7mInc/w-d-xo.html
I’m on a very low carb diet and not much vege. I do occasionally have some itching/rash and burning feet. Aside from other causes could this be a symptom of “Dumping” Oxalates. I’ve only been on this diet (life style change) for 5 months and was a super food veggie guy prior to the diet (lots of spinach, beet root nuts almonds and occasional chocolate). Thanks.
YES and it can continue and reappear over many years. Also, check into histamine issues.
What is the best testing for this?
What about the celery tops and roots, and beet root? Are they also high in oxalates?
Beetroot is VERY high as are beet greens. I'd highly recommend Sally K NORTONS book Toxic Superfoods. It's got really comprehensive lists of foods and fantastic advice for cutting down oxylates. Highly recommend. She has done lots of TH-cam interviews on various podcasts, too. She's highly engaging and very informative.
I had 8 kidney stones last year and now I have granules that make my skin itch and tingle coming out of my skin but I don't eat any of the things listed. Have had oab all my life and when my urine is tested they always find blood but no infection. No doctor has been able to fix my itchy skin. Intresting video.
I read if you drink like quarter cup of lemon juice it will prevent kidney stones.
@@manie3232 I tried lemonade but that didn't help maybe I need to try lemon juice
If you don't eat high oxalate foods, maybe you have a gluten intolerance?
@@DirectorHMAN Its probably because I have postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome and have to have alot of salt to prevent fainting. My skin issue was diagnosed as neurodermatitis.
Hydrocortisone cream😊
I love Eliot ❤ I took high B thiamine for a couple months and brought me out of a brain fog . Now I’m doing carnivore and 4th time I feel like I’m getting UTI but now I think I have a probkem
I have IC…can I use potassium, turmeric and B complex supplement? . I get mixed messages from I C sites! It’s very complicated….
Whenever I take herbs for my kidney and gallstones, my whole gut gets inflamed and irritated. I don’t know what to take to dissolve them and calm the inflammation. I need to eat.
Now what to eat?
I would like to know what everybody is eating on this low oxalate diet.
I do the Carnivore diet.
msm is helpful for IC
Cure cystitis (UTI) with bearberry (Uva Ursi)
Antibacterial, bearberry is recommended to treat urinary tract infections.
th-cam.com/video/znDILz7mInc/w-d-xo.html
Can a cat scan rule all of this out ? Or would it miss it
The best info on OXALATES youve done , oxalate doesn't go anywhere until it is chelated with ions ! it is separated I presume in the organells then rebinds it must force it via osmotic grdienst I guess but always will want to cling back to kidney tubules etc the liposome bdidng is necessary yes the Liver and kidneys are I think damaged , it IS metabolized via phosphate and glycolytic pathways back into other metabolites , but yes after 6 days bicohemm research it is a slow silent killer I'm afraid , but we do need a certain amount it kick starts or supercharges the immune system so a certain amount distributed IS need there is a lot we do NOT know , all arthritis oxalate is a culprit I am afraid .
PLEAE do one e on DETOX , EDTA< CITRIC ACID < CALCIUM ETC . Yep have exp after last 3 days and it seems correct .
Grow the right plants in allotment , exacerbated by my lack of teeth .
When you say oxalates can appear in the eyes, how would that present? I have had several bouts of yellow eyes, but all my liver function is good and I was recently diagnosed with IC
It feels like you have a
grain of sand in you eye. It moves around and works it way out. You may get several in a day. A dab of coconut oil in you oil can relieve you eyes.
Lee Rene thank you!
Lee reen are you saying a drop of coconut oil in the eye helps? Cause you said a drop of it in your oil so that wasn't clear. Perhaps you meant eyes? I know taking coconut oil orally moisturizes the entire body.
Ruby Lowery yes. I’m sorry for the reckless typing.
@@josieb3238 yes! I went on carnivore after being keto for several years- which included large amounts of oxylates- I had dumping and i could not understand why my eyes would have Sandy grains ! It's itchy and grainy and this the first explanation i have found!
Elliot is the real Jamie Oliver
What about overactive bladder as well? Can this be applied with that?
Yes
I really need to know this as irs ruining m6 life
I have a camp toilet I use a lot for only urination though. I noticed the sides of the bucket are plastered with like an eighth of an inch of what must be oxalates. It looks like very course sand paper. So is that good or bad news? At least my body is expelling it or I assume most if not all. Although as their making there way through the body would it cause harm?
Cure cystitis (UTI) with bearberry (Uva Ursi)
Antibacterial, bearberry is recommended to treat urinary tract infections.
th-cam.com/video/znDILz7mInc/w-d-xo.html
Has anyone developed ic or uti from oxylate dumping after doing lox oxylate diet?
I know this is an old post, but yes, I’m almost a year carnivore and have now been suffering for months with IC. Did two rounds of antibiotics for uti and I’m still in pain I believe from Ox dumping. I’m trying Elliot’s supplements to see if I can get any help. Magnesium/Potassium do help a lot. Have you recovered??
@ginaseery5292 pretty much! Comes and goes very mild here and there but seemed to be oxylate dumping related. Seemed to last about 7 mo for me. I've been steadily feeling better and better than i have in 10yrs 👍
Thank you so much for replying!🙂 That’s wonderful that you just keep feeling better! It gives me hope that this will improve. I was almost ready to quit carnivore but will continue. Did you add anything to your diet or take any supplements that helped you to get through the dumping?
@ginaseery5292 interesting that I've been carnivore a while amd I keep feeling like it's kicked up my ic a lot.
I have to query the listing of kiwi and plantain as “very high”. I think this depends on ripeness. Kiwi causes the mouth problem if it is UNDER-RIPE. It then has a very sharp taste. But if ripe there is no problem. Likewise underripe plantain tastes very bitter, but when ripe it loses that bitterness..
I'm going to spend the holiday not thinking about this stuff. I'm eating mostly meat anyways.
I had muck stuff in eyes, snowing on head n gritty stuff on neck n face
Dang
OXALATES 😢
Course says its closed
Can be caused by mcas
Are calcium oxalate stones also traveling through the arterial system? Is that why someone gets high calcium scores?
Isn’t that high coronary calcium score due to too much sugar in the diet be it from simple sugars and carbohydrates?
Lenore Paletta My son has been keto and now carnivore and hoping for low calcium scores, but he was keto for over a year with no sugar and he still had super high calcium score.
@@catrinaitaliano8755 Sadly, the calcium score is what is LODGED into the arteries, not what is circulating. I would be afraid to see mine... But now that I know what 'not to do', as well as the minerals that I need to add in (including calcium! esp Calcium Citrate), I would hope the cleansing/dumping can commence...
I think it is possible Catrina! Listen to Sally K Norton....I think she was saying that is possible.
Should have your son look into K2 mk-4 and Vitamin D3
👏👏👏🇧🇷from Brasil👍
Cain slew Abel because God accepted Abel's offering of prime rib and rejected Cain's offering of spinach salad. God was on the keto diet. He knew.
i quit oxalates since 3 days, was eating many oats, dark chocolate, fruits, potatoes before.. iam suffering hard now... can anyone tell me if there is a connection between oxalates and depression? my depression got worse at the moment together with other symptoms(muscle pain). I do not know if it is currently because I eat a very smal amount of carbohydrates or oxalates dumping.
I would think so, as oxolates block minerals like iron, calcium, magnesium, potassium and probably vitamins as well like b12. Being nutrient deficient is certainly a contributor to depression.
Yes I had the same- i went on carnivore and got way worse! Sou ds like dumping is what it is
I went back to some oxylates to stop the dumping
This time I will slowly decrease oxylates to prevent dumping
My depression was linked with my gluten intolerance, I was not absorbing minerals and low in lots of essential b vitamins
Your blood sugar needs to calm down and your body needs time to adjust to burning fat instead of a constant flow of sugars.
I suspect my Oxalate Issues caused my diverticulosis.
Omg I have ic amd now diverticulitis, eye opening
Oxalate problems are caused by the wrong gut bacteria that cannot brack down oxalates.
What can?
Doing my own study the oxalates r guilty!
Glyphosate is the problem,not the oxalates 😧🤔😑🕵️
Why?
While glyphosate is toxic it’s not the cause of oxalates. Vegetables, primarily the super greens like spinach, Swiss chard, Kale, etc. all have (grown with) defense chemicals called oxalates aka oxalic acid.