VW Id.4 vs Id.3 - My personal favourite
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Love your attitude, “my id3 is enough for me. I don’t need the id4. “ The words of a contented man.
I drove both (rwd not gtx) and I preferred the size of the ID.3.
Very happy with my decision so far
@@rj7855 exactly same reason why I bought the ID.3 and not ID.4
The size difference just drove me off from the ID.4
Maybe cause I've been driving an Audi A4 for +5 years
the electric seats with memories is the only thing I wish my ID.3 would have; I've also a short partner and every time she drove I've have to pump the seat down before I can get into the car.
The main reason to go for the ID.3 instead of the ID.4 was the size, we wanted a smaller car as it's much easier to drive and especially to park in the tight parking garages of Barcelona
Thanks for the review! I really enjoyed watching it, I'm a Russian-born Londoner and I find that I really like the German way of assessing cars... here people want everything electric for example and I like manual fw/backward seat controls for example and I'd rather save money and have a manual tail gate etc... it's a unique review in English and I really value it! Thanks!
You're awesome i love your commentary and videos.
Very good, I’m looking at both right now, leaning towards the ID3 long range…….leaning even more towards it now !
The fact OP has driven 23 EV's and this is 'his' car speaks volumes.
I'm hoping to buy an ID3 next year. Size is important to me. 75% of the time it's just me, 20% it's 2 people and 5% 3 or 4. I might do 1 longish trip a year, 300-400km, with more than just me in the car. I'd rather have the convenience of easy parking with a smaller car 95% of the time rather than the comfort of the ID4 for longer drives 5% of the time.
4 adults fit perfectly well in an ID.3. Just try it before you buy/rent.
Great review, thank you.
Thanks to VW forgetting I’d paid at 1st Edition id3 deposit, and then to your fantastic informative videos, I’ve ordered the big battery ID4 (but couldn’t afford the gtx version, sadly). We live a hours drive from everywhere so range is key for me, and didn’t want to sacrifice space/middle seat on the id3…but to me it looks better than the 4.
Also, the non-adaptive standard suspension was smoother in the id4 than the 3, so I can’t imagine what adaptive feels like, though I’m sure all aspects of any of these cars will smash my 07 Passat 2.L tdi 4motion (except in the snow).
The ID.4’s acceleration would be enough for me and for a family car. My current family car is slower and I feel comfortable.
Thank you for talking sense! People buy cars to commute, do shopping or visit friends and family, not for drag racing.
We have the ID.4. Coming from a 110bhp diesel, it feels snappy and quick. We love the ID.4 both for short and long trips.
@@Taakeheim I do also habe an ID4 and came from a Diesel Tiguan 140 HP which was much slower than the ID4. I can easely and safely pass slower Cars on the Road. I dont Need to have fun or drag race cars. With today congestion on the streets I rater enjoy driving confortably with travel assist than strong accelerations
Got the id4 ... I also don't need the excess space but will come handy.
The main reason is the look, and the large battery. I felt if I go for the id3, I will regret my decision and wanting to upgrade to ID4. You are more sensible than me.
I love my iD4. It’s funny when people talk about the lack of acceleration. It accelerates better than my wife’s car (Subaru crosstrak) and just as well as my old Mazda 6. I dont need more acceleration, and I’ve driven this on US interstates and side roads. My only criticism about the iD4 is; 1. No heads up display (only in Europe), no rear climate control (also only Europe). Also have problems where trying charge and it’ll not unlock the plug even though I’m done charging. Finally the infotainment system is horrible and hopefully fixed through updates.
Own an ID4 pro 2021, last family car was a quad cab ram 3500 1 ton. Fits the 2 kids easy with almost 38 in of rear leg room. Great family car.
I think VW is being very clever with how they are covering all of the different types of drivers/consumers. I will probably buy the AWD version of this. I'd like to have more power and the AWD for the snow here. I agree with you about SUVs but this isn't really huge nor is it too tall. It's almost a wagon like an ALLTRACK no?
Thanks for the video Chris! Sounds like you want AWD too!
Each to there own and besides, you look so happy 😌
Phew for a second there I thought you were going all Autogefühl on us and babble on about design creases and vegan leather. but luckily we got a good comparison video
He babbles on anyway
I have to say I have the ID4 and it is so nice to drive. I have tested the EV6 and the Ioniq and they were a lot of fun. For me the ID4 is so confident though. It rides like a German mature and expensive car. I did not feel the same on the other cars. At the end of the day we all have different needs but for me the ID4 is like therapy on wheels :)
ID3 in silver should look nice too! The problem with the grey color is visibility. Nice video, I like it a lot! ID3 is more practical. 👍
Thanks a lot. I broke my Golf that I'have been driving for 10 years and I've found 2 Id 3. Which battery has yours? Many thanks, I'm studying your GREAT videos!! Silvia, Italy
Thank you, good video.
After 5 I don't know and 5 I don't need it, the verdict was rather clear :-)
Wait until you try the GTX, 299HP gives you the same pleasure :-). I've currently got the Q4 E-Tron on test and I feel the same about the power, 150Kw is just "enough". My ID3 has DCC, it plays a lot with the confort.
Just a query if you had the pro s seats would that make comfort better. Also after watching all your content on the ID3 I've ordered a Pro S (required for the extra range daily commute is 200 miles) so thanks for the great videos.
You mean sport seats. I like them, my wife hates them.
Enjoy your Pro S
I've noticed on some videos that the ID.3 appears to use an 'opposed / overlap' windshield wiper system, while the ID.4 (the US version at least) uses a parallel system, even though (I thought) both cars have the same windshield. Does the German spec ID.4 use a parallel system as well? I'm assuming the coverage wouldn't be as good.
Great comparative review, thank you.
The ID.4’s HVAC controls aren’t lit, so adjustment at night, is a guessing game. Is it the same with the ID.3?
the blue-red sliders are not lit, however you can still adjust climate without guessing. touch the interior temperature setting or "clima" button, both take you to the screen where you can adjust the temp and other climate settings
Ho good or bad are the internal sunlight reflections?
Have you thought about the Skoda?
How do the seats compare? I have a Passat which if fine but want a change. I drive 160 km per working day minimum. Golf seats are narrower and I don’t like them for long trips. Like you real world reviews.
Chris, we know you love Walter.
After the 3 year lease is up there maybe something interesting around. Interesting to know for now you are so true to the ID.3. 😌
Of course you haven’t driven the eTron GT or Taycan yet 😎.
I wonder if your issue with suspension and wheel ease of turn have to do with different trims.
The max has dynamic suspension and progressive wheel turning, which may be missing from your id3.
I'm ordering an id3 tour and adding the sport plus pack just for the suspension and progressive direction option
Great video chris 👏🚙🔋. How was the power and acceleration in the IONIQ 5 vs ID.3 and ID.4??
Ioniq 5 was awd. 230kW
@@BatteryLife yes was it more power then the ID.4 ? Bigg differense?
I do like both cars, the power(204hp) isnt really a problem for me. i do think its ok for the roads i'm going to drive (belgium) i drive a 60hp 1.0 polo right now. i would love to have an id3 but with the 77kW then so i can go everywhere inside my country.
Thanks for the videos I enjoy your style. I am seriously considering the ID.3 it is the perfect size for my wife and I.
Would you please tell me your views on the lane keep assist I had a test drive but it kept playing ping pong from one side to another, very disconcerting. If they improve that and the infotainment glitches I will certainly buy one. I think the ID.3 I tested was due some updates, perhaps yours is better.
Lane assist is a safety function. You need travel assist. Works ok. I am not a fan of self driving features.
Ok thanks for your reply, it's just that I'm used to my Hyundai that stays pretty much in the centre. I have spoken to VW and they said it is not designed to keep you in the centre just to stop you going out of the lane quite vigorously.
I'd like to see a stretched version of the ID3 with towing capacity
Agree with you about electric seats, when I get in after my wife has been in it's so much quicker manually.
I agree with your choice but both great cars.
At the moment in the UK market there aren't many cars id3 size; loads of 'Supermini's (which are re-hashed ICE cars) or SUV monsters - we chose the id3 over the Korean makes as they are all compromised by ICE variants as well.
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No. My app works
I also love my agile ID.3 because I have no need for a large car like the ID.4 in the city .....
So the GTX might suit you more?
Oh.... automatic trunk opening/closing... my previous car had that. I miss it a LOT! Hands free opening, closing when you forgot to close it in the car, love it. My ID.3 trunk also doesn't close well. So often I sit in the car to see the trunk isn't completely closed and I need to get out again. Hate it....
And a glass roof for me is a must in a car... Thought it nonsense until I had a car once that happened to have it. Now driving a car without glass roof I just feel locked up....
So I'D.4 wins with the automatic trunk, but besides that, glad I have the ID.3 (also because it's cheaper).
4:32 this is where Dream Theater - The Glass Prison starts 😄
Spot on :)
The Id.4 is an SUV like everything else on the market, the Id.3 is unique in its class after the 2.1 software update it all works great now and I am more than happy with it especially for the great discount I got at the time of purchase.
Waiting for my Id.3 to arrive in August. Got the Plus version with Comfort package, a tow hook and 18' alloys for 37500 here in the Baltics. What kind of discount did you get?
@@mjk8019 I got business in white, with heat pump and androya alloys. Ended up as 28% discount with the finance which I have subsequently settled.
I think this pretty much depends on the user case. If it's just you and your wife, the id.3 makes all the sense in the world. For myself, with a wife, two kids (one big, one infant) and a large dog, id.4 is more like the bare minimum space wise.
I'm driving a large station wagon now, and it just works if all five of us should go on the road. I can't have a smaller trunk, because the dog cage wouldn't fit there. Looking at the ev market right now, Enyaq and id.4 seem to be the only two options for me.
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Just like to add, even at 8.5 sec it’s still faster than my old Golf 1.4 Tsi
Tell me about it, I had a Volkswagen Polo Mk3 (1997) and it did 0-60 in around 14 sec ...
I think you should Trade your ID3 for the twingo you enjoyed it so much. Very agile and so strong accélération and no sun roof, no gimicks just the Right car for you 😂😂😂
4:43 I also did not understand why people would pay 700 EUR (?) for an electric lift. Teslabjoern explained it is so you don't get your hands dirty after a Salzschmutzfest. 😅
How would you compare the driving dynamics of the ID4 with the Hyundai Ioniq 5? I've driven the ID4 twice (briefly) but the Ioniq 5 is not yet available in the US. Danke!
Ioniq 5 is softer, bit jumpy. I made a video.
We tested both and bought the ID.3. Agree with everything in the video. ID.3 just feels better to drive and is big enough for our family. ID.4 GTX solves the acceleration but is +500kg and +15keur with the same features and it has worse turning circle. I love the RWD turning circle. Super nice for city driving and parking. ID.3 has more space than ICE cars of this size class. It is only a small car from the outside. Which is great for parking in these small European parking slots.
Did the ID4 had the "sport plus pack" which includes the progressive power steering ?
I don't think so.
Great comparation, thanx a lot ! Hmm, having three children, I warn you, the car must not have much acceleration, otherwise you need bags for vomiting :-) The second thing, a large family needs towing equipment, so ID4 is better choice for family.. I also excluded from my future car selection Kona, Niro, C4-e because of the absence of towing equipment .. and yes there are gorgerous Tesla Y and Ford eMach but they are too expensive ...
I have three kids as well. They just don’t fit on the backseats of the ID4. Guess I have to wait for the ID6.
can't even get the id3 here in Canada so no point in wishing I could get an id3. only id4 and its not cheap thx vw
I pre ordered the id3, cancelled when it was delayed, bought a model 3 (it was a lemon), sold it, tested the iD4 then an enyaq, collecting my Enyaq 60 on Saturday. All great cars, cousins under the skin 😊
You go through a lot of cars ;)
@@BatteryLife not normally. The model 3 was a disaster
@@BatteryLife and in Scotland we get 0% government loan on ev and on renewable energy projects. So I have loan for the car, an air source heat pump and a home storage battery. As green as I can be 🔋💚
@@enyaq_gorm why was the M3 a disaster?
@@sagferi in short, very poor build quality. Owned it for 14 months. It took tesla 6 months to begin fixing the faults it had from day 1. Then over the final 8 months of ownership it was with tesla 9 times. The final repair they had it for 3 weeks. And even then they didn't fix everything. Gave up and sold it in disgust. Never buying tesla again.
I have 3 kids and I am really torn between these two cars. I have a 7 seater diesel SUV for long trips, towing, big luggage... so in theory the ID3 should be big enough as a second car yet still I always wonder if I should not get the ID4 in stead...
Would you only recommend the 150 kw? Id3. I've been looking at the 107kw pro life. Do you think it's under powered?
For me underpowered.
Battery Life. Thank you.
@@BatteryLife I wonder if it's software locked. I think they put the same motor in all trims. It could be that the motor controller is different.
have you tried an Opel CorsaE? in my opinion it has the best compromise of sport/confort suspension from all small/medium EVs
No, only e2008. But not enough range and space for me. And not a real electric platform. I find it weird to look at a car not knowing right away that it is electric.
Hi Chris, will you be getting the Skoda Enyaq to compare with the iD4?
Sorry no
@@BatteryLife ah, that's a shame, is it your choice or that it's not available to you? Just curious of course, it is so much better thought out than the ID4 from what I can gather that I was interested in your opinion.
Thanks for all your vids, they're so helpful, love the detail and your humour! 😀
I won't never be having both cars at the same time. Just one at a time and my own Id.3.
@@BatteryLife oh no, sorry I do understand that, Chris. I meant more of a retrospective comparison with your impressions and experience previously with the iD4 and how you feel about it similarly compared to Walter. 😊👍
Hi Chris,
2.3 content today heavily discussed on German forums. I though you had the heads up?
Any help please?
I have. ;) Can't say anything yet.
Just had an update on the info and it’s an “ORUN” type on the screen running in the background . The German forum seems to know what’s included , (which isn’t a great deal if the content is correct) . I know you can’t say anything. Good luck and thanks.
Can't live without my German Flag home button to support Die Mannschaft! 😅
Thanks, good review, my next car is defo going to be an EV, so far for me the ID3 seems to be on top, I still have a problem with the range, I know it's advertised as 330KM but real-world reviews reduce that to 200, my daily commute is about 90KMs so?? perhaps I'll wait in the hope next years models will increase the range to 300 (real world)
Get the middle battery. I had 280km range summer 130 kmh.
@@BatteryLife 130 wouldn't be enough to make me feel secure, like driving to work if say I forgot to charge it, I can't pull in and wait for it to charge, my boss wouldn't be too happy.
If you've been driving an ID.3 for a long time and then testing an ID4, the power is actually missing. I am with you on almost every point. The only thing I can't agree with, is the volume. Maybe it's because my ID.3 has 18 inch rims. They're really quiet and comfortable. The ID.4 Max with 21 inch rims was louder in my opinion.
I could be wrong with the loudness.
Different horses for different courses.
Can only agree with you. The silver ID4 looks freaking amazing,, 🥰!
The ride quality in ID4 are absolute top world class, and soo quiet in all speeds. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐/⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
If only it would have the same infotainment system as Polestar.
Cheers and thanks Chris,, 🍻😎👍!!!
Here in the US we can't get the id.3 and VW does not bring in the Golf anymore. Just the GTI and R alongside the big cars. Just hoping they will bring a GTX id.3 model to replace the GTI.
Chris, have you got plans to road test a Volvo recharge?
Already tested in March, but I get a press car in August
comfortable ride depends about wheels distance, what is distance longer it is more comfortable
The ID.3 looks better, and … suits you better.
I agree, I don't understand why the ID.4 has less acceleration than the ID.3 or even e-Golf
It’s the weight! A much heavier car on the same platform.
21 inch wheels … that’s huge… and expensive to replace …not sure I want that … thanks for video
I like SUVs but I drove both ID3 and ID4 and, honestly ID3 is more agile. Let's not forget those 400kg less on ID3 vs ID4. You don't have kids and even if you would the space in the back is more than enough. It is true that the trunk is the size of an Golf but many families can live with it. I remember you have small dogs. Last but not least you don't like SUVs, so why selling the bird in your hand with the one in the tree.
I am not a fan of black piano trims and slide buttons and ID3 is not the most beautiful car in the world but it's not bad at all.
So, keep the ID3. 👍
Maybe the Ioniq 5 is the in between and best of both worlds. It charges amazingly.
Only problem it is not available in all us states
@@markfitzpatrick6692 maybe drive to nearest state?
The Ioniq5 looks amazing but I believe it is bigger than the ID.4 and that is bigger than I need.
Silver and Moonstone Grey are the ONLY decent colors of ID4 !! We were going for Silver when I saw the Moonstone Grey, so changed the order!
I have the tour pro s Id.3 Best car I've ever driven. I came out of a Tiguan.
Wait for the baby Taycan like me !
comfortable seats are everything for me. Don’t care much about burning tires up with 0-60 times.
Make the mirrows go in when you lock. Then you see it propperly.
The problem with VW group is the week regen or e-padel drive. For me is the best feature of an electric car, to be Able to drive with only one papel… with full stop.
Without this capability I would not buy an EV. VW GROUP is trying to please ICE drivers… but EV is not ICE, it’s different, it’s better… VW GROUP are making hybrid feeling drive… and as hybrids has proved, hybrid solutions is the worst of the two. Is it so difficult to introduce a button for e-papel? LIKE EVERY OTHER BRANS DO?
E-tron with e-padel, and I buy it in a heartbeat…
Another good review 👍
Nice comparison. The lack of towing capacity and original roof rack on the ID.3 makes it less versatile than its "predecessor" the Golf. This makes it a nice car for a single or two-person household but less than ideal for families with kids.
True
I need a tow hitch, but doesn’t towing significantly reduces range and it's awkward to park at a charging point with a trailer so need to unhitch?
Difference between Americans and Germans...
US: The car has no xyz? This is stupid, I needs it, I wants it (and my neighbor has it, too)!
DE: I don't need this and this and this...
😂
difference in suspension: dcc option
difference in steering: progressive steering (and setting in dcc) option (bundled somewhere)
both available for both id.3 and 4
We have had an e-Golf as our only car since March 2016 and were waiting for ID.3, then learned it wasn't coming to the US. So I guess our next EV will not be a VW, unless VAG gets its act together and brings the ID.3 here. So disappointed: we love our EPA 83-mile e-Golf (summer: 100 mi, winter 75 mi) but will eventually want more range.
Skoda Enyaq iV it's the only right choice here. 😂👌
ID.3: Danke, Chris 😸
I hope ID.3 comes to the US!
ID3 is nosier, sitting position in ID4 is a bit higher and easier to get in or out. Otherwise if you were blindfolded sat in the drivers position, asked to drive I would be a very, very hard guess. ID4 can have a trailer hitch ID3 cant*, well you can get a bike rack mount which is nice.
The ID4 is like the guy she told you not to worry about
How do the charging curves compare?
Already done. Videos are online. Id4 has same as id.3 pro s
The ID4 is slow off the line, I purchased a Kia E Niro because it felt much more peppy and responsive. If the dual motor AWD was a liable I may have gone for that instead.
Towing possibility in ID4 only advantage.
I never tow anything
I have 2 small children and we fit in id3. In the Moment I prefer the id3 but in 2-3 years I would buy id space Vizzion and not id4.
I totally understand that.
I’m in the US so no ID3 for us here. I did get the ID4 and Im so anti-suv. I don’t get why Americans must have the BIG cars, lol. But anyway I’m very happy with my ID4 in Moonstone Grey👍🏼
It takes a long time to relay a few interesting observations.
Strange «test». Motorized trunk is really nice, especially to open it by using the foot.
I had Tesla Model 3 SR+ before, that car was amazing, I’ve tried ID3, didn’t like it so much. I have ID4, the car is ok, many good things, like seat, trunk, AR, not much noise with 21" wheels and so on.
But my next car will be Tesla, I do really miss Model 3, that was a superb everyday car.
Nice Clothes...😜
I'm hoping to see an ID.4 in Australia now that at least some of our State Governments unlike our Federal government realise where the future lies. Unlikely to see an ID.3 without moving countries but maybe once VW drop some of their ICE models including the Golf which I think the ID.3 will most probably replace eventually.
What about a comparison of VW ID3 58kw vs Tesla Model 3 SR+?
I made a video last September.
@@BatteryLife Great! I missed that, thanks!
I agree the ID4 looks fantastic, however in NZ VW kit is overpriced and hefty to get serviced/repaired so I'd get the model3.
Wouldn’t the Model Y be more of a competitor to the ID4? In the uk Tesla service is not cheap and VW is much easier to get your car serviced as there are many more VW dealers.
ID 4 is a SUV, model 3 a sedan.....You buy the ID 4 if you want a SUV and Model 3 if you need a sedan.....
You are same like me i do not like SUV's and glass roof as well not too many choices for my next EV model 3, id3 ,bmw i4, eqs and model S to big and others too small or small battery pack.
If you could put one in a box and ship it to the USA I'd really appreciate it. :)
Does Id.3 do well up hills. When I say hills, I mean the ones with a steeper slope.
Everx electric car does
@@BatteryLife Thank you, I am getting one soon, your channel help me to choose this one
They look like the designer was 1 day from retirement and couldn't be arsed.
Carrying on a bit too much about the looks - beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
That is why I say 209 times my personal opinion
Battery Life actually as a matter of fact I agree with you, on the looks and also the wastefulness of it. But of much more importance is range price, economy power etc. maybe someone has a personalised algorithm for rating all these things. Handling etc. ALL of these things are of course matters of opinion.
i like your reviews. i want to buy an id3 but every time i get into my bmw 320d 2019 model i say to my self i'd be crazy to get rid of my bmw
How about loosing money with your Diesel. I think I'll get rid of my BMW Gran Tourer 220 d xDrive pretty soon and lease the ID4 or the Scoda Enyaq.
The ID.3 would be good for me, if it only had towing.