Sony A6700 vs Fujifilm X-S20: Battle of the Best APS-C Cameras

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  • @Iamtongue
    @Iamtongue  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    Before you jump into the comments saying, ‘But they already updated the firmware,’ take a moment to think about how frustrating it was waiting for those updates in the first place. Yes, if the firmware improved things, that’s a bonus but let’s not forget that these issues shouldn’t have existed to begin with. It’s fair to hold Fujifilm accountable for addressing these problems more proactively.
    I’ve heard people say the new firmware has made the autofocus ‘good enough.’ But ask yourself: is ‘good enough’ really what we should expect from a company like Fujifilm? Or should we be holding them to a higher standard? Just some food for thought.

    • @johnnyr-518
      @johnnyr-518 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@garends225 that new FW don't matter. Sony still beats it like a stepchild 😂

    • @RoamingDoctors
      @RoamingDoctors 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There are only few content creators or regular photographers who use their camera daily.. rest community are just hobbyist.... Who rarely use camera n know little about their camera but get influenced by those content creators n get frustrated by lack in their camera... Rather than hating camera, we all should be happy camera n click something..

  • @matt88169
    @matt88169 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    Sony if you hate culling. Fuji if you hate editing.

    • @cyano3d
      @cyano3d 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      What hurts me when i check my fuji photos that there are few bangers in the roll which missed the focus by a decent but and i cant use that

    • @matt88169
      @matt88169 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@cyano3d All cameras miss focus sometimes, and we all miss bangers, just keep going.

    • @tme500ify
      @tme500ify 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cyano3d I missed focus on my Sony as well

    • @urgedmoon
      @urgedmoon 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@matt88169 hah well put

  • @tme500ify
    @tme500ify 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    fuji colour + Sony tracking = perfect

    • @shira_yone
      @shira_yone 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      nikon is almost there

  • @janbroekema
    @janbroekema 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Yesterday ( 19 december ) there was a Fuji autofocus update...i think it's now much better!

  • @matangox
    @matangox 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    20 minutes to edit one photo? That's crazy. 5 minutes is probably too much if we are talking average time.

  • @JJCPhotography
    @JJCPhotography 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video!Great comparison!

    • @Iamtongue
      @Iamtongue  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @ducko1988
    @ducko1988 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I’m really tempted to sell me x100vi and get an xs20, looks a great little camera

  • @branimirteodorovic2297
    @branimirteodorovic2297 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Fuji just published a new firmware update for X-S20, X-T5 and a few other models that brings autofocus in line with X-H2s. I guess you tested the autofocus with old firmware. Can you try the autofocus with the latest firmware?

    • @cyano3d
      @cyano3d 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That would be a good small video for just af comparison

    • @Dicktopus
      @Dicktopus 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      People writing this after every firmware update

  • @francissosing
    @francissosing 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great content man. I do miss my old XS10; I started off doing action photography and videography indoors for action photos first with it and I got some great photos with it. I haven’t touched my cameras in awhile but it’s good still see some of your work. Keep it up.

  • @dougmorato
    @dougmorato 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There's no competition to A6700, unfortunately.

  • @mahidoes
    @mahidoes 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I shoot with Fuji X-T5 but i wish i wasn't invested in Fuji. If i'm buyign today i'll choose A6700 for sure. I want clinically sharp real life colour photos with good autofocus.

  • @ANTHONYFERNANDO
    @ANTHONYFERNANDO 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    This isn't set correctly. Don't blame you, I noticed Fuji changed some things (for the better, but didn't announce it), but the way you have it set in video on wide tracking, it will only face detect inside the box. If you watch closely, you'll see that every time your face passes in the box or center it's picked up immediately, once you're outside center frame it doesn't try.
    They changed wide tracking to do this, which is a good thing as it's something people have asked for, to control the area within which the camera will look for faces. I'm not at my camera at the moment, but I believe I'm using multi now and it's working incredibly well. This video doesn't represent the actual performance when set correctly. Try this again on multi.
    It was confusing at first, but ultimately it's something people asked for though, being able to restrict where face detect occurs, and I do think it's a good feature. They should have discussed this more though.

    • @Iamtongue
      @Iamtongue  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ANTHONYFERNANDO okay I will try again thanks for letting me know.

    • @ANTHONYFERNANDO
      @ANTHONYFERNANDO 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @ no worries man! Took me a bit to realize what happened, but it’s been pretty solid since.

    • @matt88169
      @matt88169 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@Iamtongue I love you, but if you bunked the test by not understanding the settings this time, that is on you, not on the camera, and you should consider taking this video down (until you can cut in a better test). People are going to spend a lot of money on your recommendations, and trust is hard to earn and easy to lose. Just saying.

    • @GhettoFabulousFILMS
      @GhettoFabulousFILMS 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can you do a tutorial on the Autofocus thing please

  • @benoittissier58
    @benoittissier58 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for sharing your test data. Many only say "good" or "very good".
    I got the A6700 for sports because I was very frustrated by the A7iv so-called "very good " AF. Sold both to get a used A1. I'd describe the AF for my use nothing better than "good".

  • @vadergrd
    @vadergrd 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    when you do the filming focus test i am not bothered by the slower speed of the fuji , i am bothered by some sort of step-functioning it does ... other than that it's great ... both of them ... :)

  • @alldreamsmedia
    @alldreamsmedia 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This was my dilemma a little over a month ago. Tried the XS20 and it felt like a toy camera. I felt bummed down about the dynamic range and the slow autofocus. The A6700 was breath of fresh air. Bought a little fan for it (just in case it overheated) but ive never needed it. At 4k 60 422 on the A6700 and that crazy autofocus, it had everything I needed for content creation ❤ my choice its the A6700 now part of my gear bag.

  • @B-Frosty97
    @B-Frosty97 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I have a X-S20 and I've been thinking about whether to switch over to the A6700 before I start investing heavily in lenses, this is a really helpful video

    • @Iamtongue
      @Iamtongue  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m glad it was helpful! Thanks

    • @Princeton_James
      @Princeton_James 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I would switch now. I did the exact same thing. As soon as my Fuji started missing focus I sold it. The a6700 hasn't missed 1 shot.

    • @kingtutt3492
      @kingtutt3492 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Get Sony

    • @43rdMusic
      @43rdMusic 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Switch now before all your videos and pics turn out blurry with #BlurryFilm cameras lol

    • @dmotx
      @dmotx 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm moving the other direction. Yeah... Sony's autofocus is great. Blah blah. How do you feel about shooting video... cause that's the only place Sony is investing in APSC. You like the offset viewfinder? Do you like the way they feel in your hands? Yuck. Do you like having to buy big FF glass because Sony doesn't want to make nice APSC glass?

  • @BrooklynCapo1
    @BrooklynCapo1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Solid video, right now i'm using a Sony ZVE10 for photography & video, Sony is a solid system if you don't mind spending time in Lightroom editing. I'm upgrading to the Fuji XS20 because those Fujifilm simulations, it looks like it would make photography fun, less time editing, more time creating.

  • @RoamingDoctors
    @RoamingDoctors 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are only few content creators or regular photographers who use their camera daily.. rest community are just hobbyist.... Who rarely use camera n know little about their camera but get influenced by those content creators n get frustrated by lack in their camera... Rather than hating camera, we all should be happy with whatever camera we have n click something..

  • @worldoftony469
    @worldoftony469 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love it! I do love the 6700 but have tried the xs20. Have you noticed any better autofocus with the new firmware on the xs20?

    • @KeAiFu
      @KeAiFu 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Still junk!

  • @cyano3d
    @cyano3d 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The autofocus vine booms made me chuckle

  • @SuperTonda1
    @SuperTonda1 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Oh my boy! He forgot to start the tracking on the fuji 🥲

  • @charliejg
    @charliejg 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "....all I want is the perfect camera..." LOL! Question: How does the X-S10 fare against the X-S20? Does it have a less plasticy feel? For photography it should be no different since it has the same sensor. So, maybe I should look for a good used X-S10 when I want to get something new. The only big problem I see is that it's not WR. I hike with my camera all the time. Thanks for the comparison! Have a rockin' weekend!

  • @dustinfox9340
    @dustinfox9340 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You mentioned that the Fujifilm photos dont take as long to edit in a way that you love, especially compared to edit time on Sony photos. However, you have been shooting with Fuji for a long time? Does it take longer to edit the photos because you've grown to prefer the way Fujifilm photos look, so you try to emulate that with Sony? Or are the Sony files actually harder to edit? I've only ever editing Sony photos, so I'd love to know!

  • @zyxyuv1650
    @zyxyuv1650 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you do an AF shootout with the new X-S20 firmware 3.10?

    • @Iamtongue
      @Iamtongue  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Given fujis tech and track record I doubt it would improve significantly or if any at all.

  • @-zde-pigeonsack2577
    @-zde-pigeonsack2577 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was same debate and had both,
    Than i was thinking to myself which camera is more fun to use ,thats when i decided for Fuji ,sony would overheat quick on me. Fuji with film simulation just makes ne want to take more pics and videos without thinking color grading

  • @BenjoC8632
    @BenjoC8632 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I absolutely LOVE my little X-S20!👊🏼

  • @mattstolzman
    @mattstolzman 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What are those strap attachments from the thumbnail pic?

    • @Iamtongue
      @Iamtongue  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      PGY tech! It’s pretty cool, they’re called the “air” strap or whatever.

  • @Dimezis
    @Dimezis 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I know the AF is bad on Fuji, but I think you forgot to press the start tracking button. The rectangle should be green when the tracking is started. In this case it's grey and it doesn't even try looking for the subject

    • @Iamtongue
      @Iamtongue  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s tracking

    • @grzechumarley
      @grzechumarley 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Iamtongue @dimezis the guy is right

    • @Dimezis
      @Dimezis 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@grzechumarley which one of us? 😂
      Even if it's tracking, it's probably tracking only in that rectangle. I also have x-s20 and that's not how tracking AF behaves on it

    • @grzechumarley
      @grzechumarley 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Dimezis you are right, need to activate the gray box to green

  • @bimalkajishiwakoti
    @bimalkajishiwakoti 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the video... I prefer the Fuji as it's for my own sanity; I don't know if I want to call myself a professional while handling the camera which sony kind of compels me to become. I hate the Menu system and the look out of the camera on Sony and you have to be a professional to edit the RAW pictures. I just want a fun camera for my creative needs, just want something that I can enjoy on rather than hating the process of editing and posting anything.
    But all in all I hope they fix the autofocus at least close to 80% of what Sony can do. I don't mind misfocusing some shots but I really hope Fuji to get their shit right.
    Can you let me know how the Fuji does to the latest firmware with the Sigma 18-50 2.8 lens on it.
    It would be great if you could give some tips for someone who's just starting out...

  • @jeffkogler1170
    @jeffkogler1170 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I went out with money in my wallet to buy a camera with the Sony 6400 on top of my shortlist, along with Canon and Olympus options and the Fujifilm X-S10 last. Observations at the camera shops I went included the Sony had a long wait time there (>3 months), the Olympus appeared expensive for the features, the canon had limited lens choices for the future. The Fujifilm was also unavailable at the first store I went to and at the second was RRP and the salesman would not budge. The same shop in another location had one on special with approx 25% off. So I bought. I've since upgraded to a X-S20. The AF shortfalls haven't bothered me yet, but maybe will later. Accurate colour of the Sony appeals to me because even though I enjoy the Fujifilm colour I have found that to reproduce reasonably accurately what my eye sees has been problematic. I think the menu system of the Fujifilm has a steep learning curve too but I am learning it in parallel to learning about digital photography in general. I prefer the shape and form factor of the Fujifilm X-20 over the 6700 in my brief use of the latter more recently,

  • @jetsetjourneys-yv4gz
    @jetsetjourneys-yv4gz 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That X-S20 feels great in the hand with the half leather case

  • @ironfur9150
    @ironfur9150 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I bought and compared both cameras myself, ended up keeping the X-S20. I came to the same conclusion though, for most photographers/videographers the A6700 is better overall, two big reasons would be autofocus and weather sealing.
    So why did I keep the X-S20?
    A big reason was in my tests the X-S20 was more resistant to overheating, I planned to use it for long form video recording at 4K30, potentially in hotter areas. The SOOC images are better, there isn't a RAW editing option available in-camera with the A6700. The X-S20 has Pre-shot, super useful for capturing images like lightening or birds taking flight. Some other features like built in panoramas, HDR and muti-shot stacks that the X-S20 has can be fun to play with. Also the built in flash has come in handy a few times, even for just being creative with rear curtain slow sync. Not that the ergonomics of the A6700 are bad per-se but I did prefer the X-S20, joystick for controlling AF point is a plus. Oh, and the rear LCD is nearly double the resolution, so that's nice too.
    I have a Sony A7iv that I use for paid professional work but I gravitate to the X-S20 for fun. For photos I would say 98% taken with the A7iv are in focus and about 94% with the Fuji, most of my pictures are not of people running in a zig-zag pattern towards me ;)
    I have the new firmware installed but haven't given it a workout yet, initial results are is that it's a bit better than before but still not as good as my A7iv.

  • @thefreshprinceofgreenhills
    @thefreshprinceofgreenhills 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you like do Sony A6700 v. XT5, AF and all

    • @KeAiFu
      @KeAiFu 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Quite similar, Fuji is far behind with the AF.

  • @ContinuaComiq
    @ContinuaComiq 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is this with the firmware update from yesterday? If not could you test the new hit rate?
    I already got the x-s20 so all I can do is look out for the updates. xD
    And I agree, Fuji has no excuse for this monumental eff up!

    • @Iamtongue
      @Iamtongue  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Nope, I did it on the one before. I will probably do one once I hear more people talking about it. I still am weary of updating..

    • @muramasa30
      @muramasa30 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Iamtongue the update definitely helps,

  • @ruffmadman
    @ruffmadman 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Personal opinion, Fuji's "film-like" look has a lot to do with marketing. Film simulations is a fancy marketing name for photo filters, and names like Astia and Velvia have memorable names that play at nostalgia. There is no reason why Sony can't do it. They just seem to not want to. Sony has something similar, but with names like "Picture Profile 1" and "Picture Profile 2, 3, 4, 5" etc. who knows why people arent using them 🤷‍♂️. Give them nicer names, and make them easier to access (Sony's menu system is awful) and Sony wouldn't have such a poor reputation in this department.

  • @danieldouble07
    @danieldouble07 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The fuji does have a crop in 4k60

  • @MBroam
    @MBroam 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This may not be saying much, but Fuji's AF (At least the X-S10's...) is better than Pentax's... 😂 Fortunately I shoot macro and landscape so AF speed is less of an issue.

  • @nicolaslaloge4811
    @nicolaslaloge4811 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My dream gear would be a Sony Fuji collaboration. They both Japanese, why not work together on a camera with Fuji color and Sony technology.

    • @Iamtongue
      @Iamtongue  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That would be great

    • @frankfeng2701
      @frankfeng2701 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They do collaborate in some ways, like Fuji uses Sony sensors.

  • @alexeipg
    @alexeipg 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting that the fuji evf is better. Same resolution and lower magnification than the sony

  • @tambokpatikan3700
    @tambokpatikan3700 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sony is better 100% but I'm more comfortable using the Fuji's UI.

    • @KeAiFu
      @KeAiFu 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thats ok.

  • @D88182
    @D88182 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Had a Sony, loved it, but hated editing all the time! Changed to Fujifilm, loved the colours and the pictures straight out of camera, yes 2/10 photos are not fully focused… but I still got the 8/10 focused. No more editing after I perfected my recipe. So worth it. Don’t think twice, don’t waste your time and money. Go straight to Fuji.

  • @tomkryzz
    @tomkryzz 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’d prefer the Nikon Z50 II above both

    • @super-z8943
      @super-z8943 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tomkryzz no ibis, hence not in same category

    • @tomkryzz
      @tomkryzz 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@super-z8943 Since when defines IBIS a whole category 💀

    • @super-z8943
      @super-z8943 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tomkryzz ibis might mean a 3 or 4 stops difference. That is significant for low light scenarios. Now please don't tell me you carry your tripod everywhere!
      If you have noticed, none of the lower tier cameras have IBIS.

    • @tomkryzz
      @tomkryzz 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@super-z8943 3-4 stops? Damn! If your hands shake that much, you can still get lenses with OIS

    • @super-z8943
      @super-z8943 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @tomkryzz can you handhold at 1/10th of a second? Or are you a 10 year old just rambling? Kit lens with OIS, is that the source of your energy?

  • @mariobnc1995
    @mariobnc1995 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    i prefer Fujifilm for me the lack of the joystick is terrible the Sony viewfinder is ridiculous.
    and then Fusi film on apsc with fantastic lenses you don't have to go to third parties it's a complete system while Sony seems like a blatantly castrated system to push you to buy the full frame that costs more

    • @Iamtongue
      @Iamtongue  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sony does have some good third party Apsc lenses also. Sigma and tamron, and even the third party Chinese brands. They are slowly rollinng better Apsc native lenses. I believe Sonys got their own version of a 16-55mm f2.8

    • @mousse4444
      @mousse4444 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@Iamtongue one big void in x lenses is a a good 90 -135mm 3rd party lens.Viltrox has a great new lens but as usual it's only for Sony mount. Tamron has an outstanding 90mm macro, but again, it is not for Fuji. I really don't think there are any 3rd party lenses and it could be that Fuji want to protect the sales of the 90mm f2 lens which is ridiculously overpriced.
      😮

  • @KeAiFu
    @KeAiFu 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The AF test for stills was in favor of Fuji. A test at an evening event, dancing people and colored light (red, blue, green) with a Sigma 56/1.4 open. Sharp rate for Fuji below 20%. This is junk!

    • @Iamtongue
      @Iamtongue  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤷

    • @TheBucsAnthem
      @TheBucsAnthem 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree...I returned my XT5 because the autofocus was behind panasonic by ALOT

  • @oregonduc
    @oregonduc 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fuji for jpg and Sony for editing and AF. Or GAS and get both lol

    • @antimotivation10
      @antimotivation10 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@oregonduc i use, Raw in fujifilm. 👌💖💘

    • @oregonduc
      @oregonduc 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ I do too but I also dual wield Sony and Fuji. I like to torture myself lol

  • @justinburley8659
    @justinburley8659 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So, we're just gonna ignore the Canon R7?

  • @jan-nilss.680
    @jan-nilss.680 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your Video: 08:41

  • @43rdMusic
    @43rdMusic 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bro, I sold of all my #Blurryfilm (#fujifilm) gear! I bought a brand new X-H2 in October 2023. The stupid Reala Ace firmware broke my AF-C in the spring. I’ve been using an R8 since with the the rf 35mm f1.4 and 70-200mm f4. In baseball terms, Fujfilm tech is t-ball and Canon, Sony, and Nikon are the majors.
    Even if Fujifilm were to address AF-C and other tech issues they have, I wouldn’t go back to their #Blurryfilm camera because they left me without a usable camera for 8+ months with the “premium” camera i purchased from them.
    Everyone can shut up about not knowing how to focus - please if they’re advertising AF-C it should work as advertised. This past year they proved to me that their Instax cameras are more reliable than their “high-end” $2000+tax cameras……………………….

  • @michaelbell75
    @michaelbell75 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You forgot the Canon R7. It's arguably better than either of these cameras. It has more resolution, better IBIS, much better AF system than the Fuji and arguably better than Sony, a real mechanical shutter, 1/8000s vs 1/4000s, faster continuous shooting, 2 card slots and weather sealing. Returned the a6700 for the R7. R7 is a pro grade camera, these two are enthusiast cameras. Nikon Z50 II is another camera that is better than these two in quite a few areas.

  • @TheBucsAnthem
    @TheBucsAnthem 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fuji autofocus still sucks bro

    • @Iamtongue
      @Iamtongue  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup it’s ass.

  • @robertbland5131
    @robertbland5131 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    They have a new firmware out you tried it with the old firmware. This is stupid. Why didn’t you not download the new firmware for this camera but that’s just like you do things backwards tried with the new firmware that just was put out the other day and the Fuji film definitely probably would even win or be right there with it, but I see you do not know that…😂 download the new firmware and do the test over again pretty sure he would not do that like a Sony fan boy…

    • @IliasKoureas
      @IliasKoureas 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's because the newer firmware updates are worse for AF. Many Fuji shooters test all the firmware updates and the older ones are better

    • @robertbland5131
      @robertbland5131 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ that is incorrect the new firmware do works and it works very well. Maybe you don’t know that because you’re still stuck in the past….!!! 😂😂

    • @IliasKoureas
      @IliasKoureas 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@robertbland5131 uhmm.. there are many tests from people all around the world proving this but ok. Keep making fun of people if that makes you feel better 🙏
      Literally the only people that agree with you are paid TH-cam channels. Companies do mess up from time to time and that's perfectly normal.
      Btw this channel has been promoting Fujifilm cameras for years. This guy is a legit Fuji shooter 😂
      And everyone knows that Fuji has the worst AF in the business.
      So calling him stupid and a Sony fanboy is just.. well not that intelligent.