Apple's M1 Mac is not what you think...
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- The first Apple Silicon Macs are here sporting the new M1 SoC. What does it mean for Macs today and into the future? Let's find out!
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At long last, Apple has finally announced and will soon be releasing Arm-based Macs based on Apple's new "Apple Silicon" family. This new chip, the M1, is based on the A14 and makes its way to the MacBook Air, 13" MacBook Pro with Touch Bar, and Mac mini. Specs are vague and performance is yet to be determined, but if Apple's slides are to be believed, this chip design and these machines are just the beginning of a hugely important transition for Apple and computing in general. But let's go beyond what Apple said in the keynote and dive into some of the nuance behind this new Apple Silicon M1 chip.
This fulfills Steve Jobs quote from Alan Kay - "People who are really serious about sofware should make their own hardware". 2007
This is genuinely wrong. Market is whole lot bigger than few percent comsumer devices.99.99% devices you daily use or contact(from dishwasher to bluetooth headphones to garage door) are embedded ICs designed to be programmed and implemented in consumer devices. The problem is that apple highly benefits with things it literally trying to kill. M1 is impossible without ARM architecture. M1 might be a best implementation of ARM architecture, but it will never be comparable to its source itself. Unlike Intel with their amd64 implementation, for example.
See you in every m1 video
@@inwerp M1 speed is because the neural engine not the ARM cores, only A64FX is fast running only arm cores. M1 Need hardware aceleration.
@@theoneonly5368 Steve Jobs knew shit about CPU architcture and never designed a single circuit, never cared and never needed to care. Thats not the point, he was great in other things. The point is that ARM is whole lot bigger than Apple, Qualcomm, Microsoft or any other company who uses this architecture. Using qoutes by famous people does not really mean that you or any other person understands more and thus agrees because of knowledge and experience. If you rotate the qoute and look at reality, every hardware manufacturer who tried to go into OS market sucked badly on mass-market. IBM, HP, Motorola, Nokia, NeXT(lmao), Atari and many many others proved this qoute sounds good but it is not even closely accurate, it is great motto but nothing more.
@@inwerp it says if you are serious about software, make hardware, not the other way around lol
There are two things holding me back: 1. I'm broke. 2. My wife told me I couldn't buy a MBP until I lost 65lbs. Due to unforeseen circumstances, I only have 75lbs to go!
See the bright side of this: by the time you've lost those 85lbs, reviews, benchmarks and maybe even the M1X will already be available.
@@stkl23 lol I'm hoping it won't go up before going back down. It seems like the first go at ARM Macs won't be "great" but I guess we'll see next week.
What an absolute simp
There are 2 things for me holding me Back:
I'm broke
I don't like macOS
Might be easier to lose the wife :).
So good. I ordered 2 airs for my employees, the 13” pro for myself, and the mini to replace the older mini we’re using now for shuffling around files and storage. 🙌🏻
Looking forward to the iMac upgrades to replace our editing machine.
How’s the difference?
“No one ever watches that”
That’s where you’re wrong
That’s where you’re right
Spot on!
Went to watch that after this comment :D
Time tag please
@@theyeshhh Look at the ending
“NooOo. 1.2x, because that’s math”. Lol. Love how you found that mistake in your edit and turned it into a joke. Seriously your videos get better and funnier all the time!
I mean, technically it does improve by 0.2x, but it's performance is 1.2x that of the previous generation.
1(current gen) + x(improvement over current gen) = 1 + 0.2 = 1.2 times the performance. Improving by 1.2x would mean, you take the current gen, and add 1.2 to it.
If I run a race, and then the next lap I run it 20% faster, I only improved by 0.2 (20%), but my speed was 1.2 times that of the first lap. It's all about the relationship. One is how much extra on top of the previous generation, as a percentage, and the other is how it compares proportionally to the previous generation.
@@loganrussell48 exactly my thoughts
@fiv3 300% ?
@@loganrussell48 I think 20% increase in perfomance sound much less ambiguous.
...I mean, if i say something is 100 times heavier/faster/stronger, I don't mean 101 times the weight/speed/strength!
“No one ever watches that”
That’s where you’re wrong
I want to like this but you're at 69 likes.
Which is... nice.
key epic i watch that i am not wrong m1 chip you wrong key
What did he mean?
Is that Linus tech tips merchandise???
yeah
Pure cuckery.
at ?
@@anb1142 His JACKET homie
Where would one be able to get such a fantastic hoodie?
I love how you start this video by taking a victory lap.
This bloke massively deserves it though😂☝🏻
What is holding me back is remembering the transition from Motorola to Intel chips and Mac gaming with Steam.
Im waiting for the 16” or even better 17” and the new Mac Pro.
or even "betterer:" wait for the M5 at 1 nm! oouuuuuuuooooooooooooouuuuooooooooooh!
My dude wearing linus tech tips merch 😂😂
LTT Store dot com!
Finally someone noticed 😀
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Gonna wait for the 16” MacBook Pro, plus that’ll give some more time to iron out any issues in case there are any.
This is where I'm at too! Spot on. Hope it has 4 thunderbolt ports
I’m thinking about buying the current version of MBP 16. Do you think is a good idea?
@@DiegoMartinez-yq9tg I would definitely wait.
@@DiegoMartinez-yq9tg I honestly am thinking of buying the new M1 13”. Then when the new chip 16” is released, sell the 13 then get the 16. Because who knows when the 16 will come out, what if it comes out late 2021? But at the same time i’m waiting to see performance reviews over the next week of the 13 before making a decision.
@@Robert-dt3is bingo! This is what I did. I just bought the juiced up 13” MBP. Apple seems pretty confident with this new line so I’m all in. If it doesn’t work out I’ll just sell it. No problem.
0:06 “I subbed just to unsub” Man, the Internet 😂😂😂
Funny how they all comment insults...
Definitely want to buy but just waiting for hands on reviews so to get a clear idea of these machines
same bro
same
I think the boat you're in is filling up to capacity! LOL
@@archangel4316 and that’s nice 😊 isn’t it?
Good thing we get the first impressions in less than a week.
I think it is great that the M1 chip has RGB😂
They’re really wanting to make the Mac seem like a gaming machine
Snazzy has no idea what he is talking about...
That’s where you’re wrong.
@@snazzy get em snazzy
I love all of Apple stuff but I have to ask a question here. If they are so freaking smart, why is voice dictation still STILL Such a busted-ass technology, and still busted-ass in Big Sur?
Everything that was broken in Catalina, is still broken in Big Sur. It's like they didn't even give it two minutes of time to fix. As someone who is disabled with neuropathy in my hands this is a big problem for me. Voice dictation worked great until the release of Catalina. It has been borderline useless every since.
I had to make 16 corrections in that paragraph above.
This really pisses me off because everything else is going so well right now.
That sucks to hear. I guess theres no real reason other than there's so little people who genuinely need that feature, like yourself, that they cannot be bothered, or don't even realise it. Hopefully they fix it soon, I know how important it can be to some people. But sadly I doubt they'd put resources into it :((
Kinda like minecraft bedrock. Big ass development team yet so many bugs, wtf guys?
dictation...is it ever!
@@mrnik.0 Oh, yeah. I think millions of people have given that feedback to customer support. The complaints about voice dictation in Catalina are all over the place
@@shivam-cc5ts The Really sad part is it wasn't broken in Mojave! It wasn't broken until they screwed with it and added voice control in Catalina. Dictation has never been the same since.
I think the wisest thing to do now is just wait for the reviews and benchmarks.
It would be amazing if Apple makes a Desktop Mode for their iPhone or iPads, because they all are basically running on the same processor and they already have some software compatability between iOS and MacOS, that could mean that you could run Desktop apps on the iPhone.
Imagine shooting a vlog, or other videos with the amazing iPhone camera and then plugging the phone into a hub and then start editing it on the full desktop version of Final Cut.
Although this probably won't happen anytime soon (or atleast not without some big limitations) because that wouldn't be good for the Mac Computer sales... But who knows, I feel like the reason things like Samsung DeX is not that popular is because you're still being limited to mobile apps, but if Apple does this they would be able to run Desktop apps on the iPhone using their own version of DeX (Desktop Mode).
Honestly, I think you are the only channel I've seen that reacted to this that has dove into the fine print and made some reasonable assumptions about Apple's weird marketing graphs. I would really like you guys to know it was extremely helpful!
Thanks, Daniel!
Apple silicon will probably be pretty amazing, and I can’t wait to see how they drive. But I’m still weary of how it will impact app makers and (more importantly) that we will lose 14 years of PC/Mac interoperability. This was a fact of life for a long time, like when I was in college: no taking that floppy or CD from a PC to a Mac! But nowadays now one would imagine you can’t just go back and forth from Mac to PC. It may very well return to this, and the Apple vs. PC choice may become much more loaded than it’s been in the past years...
I’m also worried that the universal apps between iOS and Mac won’t be that great, in that the quality and usability of apps will go down. iOS apps are pretty cool, but if we start having nothing but universal apps, I doubt these will be to the level of Mac apps, rather just taking iOS “simpler” apps and making them the new Mac standard. Time may prove me wrong, but I fear a future of candy coated, non-pro apps.
And I’m not even mentioning right to repair. That’s just a fact of the Apple life, and these are basically disposable computers now.
I'm wary of the Apple tax once they have you fully locked in + it feels like they want you to buy new every three or four years. Not exactly environmentally friendly to be honest.
I already have a 2018 MBP that now has a failing battery and keyboard that could be a very expensive doorstop in a year or so.
As a mac user for 20+ years now I've already switched to a studio PC instead of the Mac Pro route for 3D work, maybe it's time to switch the laptop too. Let's see how this plays out.
@@billB101 I'd echo pretty much all of that. That's 100% Apple's strategy: vertical integration. It's already succeeded in mobile devices, why not computers?! Once you've invested all this money and effort in it, you can still get away from it but at what cost?
And I come from a good position with Apple: I have never had a machine fail on me, and even my 10 year old MPBs run as smooth as the first day. But I know for a fact I'm the exception. Now I get mild anxiety about my next computer because I'm thinking it may have to be a pc lol
Computer interoperability is better than ever because now we have open standards and cross-platform build tools, etc. The processor architecture that is running your computer may in the future not matter at all when most stuff is running on interpreted languages like JavaScript or compiled just in time, etc.
@@SlyEcho it's not 1999 anymore that's for sure, and it's my hope this holds true. But... Apple isn't keen on playing well with others and if they can force you into the ecosystem they will. I realize the architecture won't matter all that much for files, but we already have sub-par file system cross compatibility (re: USB and SD) and on a more meta level, if apps don't get ported properly or at all, learning to work with a Mac and a PC could very well become like learning Spanish and French...
I love OSX/MacOS.
But I am done with Apple's hardware choices. I am buying a Windows 10 PC with Ryzen 5900X and AMD 6800XT.
All the Macs I have are stuck on an older version of MacOS because they dropped support for various things, not because they can't run Catalina.
Add to that right-to-repair, horrible Touchbar and keyboards on the MBP I have, dongle-hell, loss of bootcamp, and that I have no interest in any iOS apps.
Were you wearing a Linus Tech tips jacket, because it suits you and its very comfort.
Very comfort, much fluff
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I'm holding off on buying any of these machines until I see some reviews. I'd love to be able to replace my giant pc for video editing and replace it with a mac-mini, but we shall see. Oh and also my company is holding off on buying any new macs right now because so much of our internal applications have said they won't work with Big Sur for at least 60 days after release.
Lol, good luck with that fam. x86 support will be dodgy to say the least.
Daniel, I don’t know that you were around for the PowerPC to Intel transition, but the first Rosetta was almost bulletproof and Apple’s claiming Rosetta 2 is even better. I expect very few problems.
@@snazzy I've no doubt that Apple's in-house applications will perform flawlessly. Programs built from the ground up for x86 that aren't under Apple will almost certainly be a different story. It's extremely difficult to do. Microsoft couldn't even do it to an acceptable level.
Your company shouldnt be switching to apple's brand new architecture for at least two years. Professionals should not be Apple's beta testers, stick with hardware that you know for sure wont lose you money.
@@CharlieMikeNS he literally just said Rosetta was bulletproof so Rosetta 2 has to be better. Much better. Microsoft aren’t apple, they always fail. Apple doesn’t release something unless it works. They can’t risk it
Quinn rocking the LTT stealth hoodie 🔥🔥🔥
Bought the Mac Mini day of the announcement! Purchased with 16GB Ram and 1TB SSD.
Oddly enough I have been a Mac user (lover) since the 128KB Mac in 1984. My Dad bought the first Mac for his work but I used it for college while commuting to school. In my lifetime, I have been fortunate to have worked in many platforms as a designer engineer but have only needed to buy two personal use computers. Both were PC’s. All my Macs have been hand-me-ups from my children or discarded MacBook Pros from friends. This is the first Mac I have purchased for myself and have been hesitant to buy for the last couple of years due to the intel based platform being much less snappy than the iPhone and iPad. When I heard about the M1 I was pleased to learn the performance was improved drastically. Glad I waited. The Mac Mini arrives tomorrow.
"What's holding you back?"
Money.
Lol, no, 1.2 times cuz that’s math. 🤣
I loved that idk why.
Not living in the USA is what’s holding me back from the Mac Mini with M1 or the MacBook Air with M1. That 100$ price drop is INSANE considering that most people already HAVE a nice monitor to plug it in.
so.... I dig the LTT sweatshirt! I feel the love
Ha! I watch to the end, almost every time! Good analysis. I want to buy one but don't have a way to justify it at the moment. But the future does look bright. Looking forward to your reviews once the new Macs arrive.
Thanks, Curtis! Means a lot from a pro like you!
@@TheRealTommyR I would TOTALLY get a lower end MBA in this upcoming generation as a vacation/short-stay device to watch videos on. That battery life coupled with a real processor and not an Intel Core whatever crap.
Nice idea but only 13” screen size - might as well watch your tv/film on an iPad Pro - I do
@@johnwade7430 Well the 16:10 is way better than 4:3 on the iPad for watching TV/Film
@@johnwade7430 If you already have an ipad pro yea, but for those of us on the fence about it, its about 1728 USD for the equivalent of the 512gb MB Air M1. The MB Air costs 1249 doe. 1728 USD ipad pro is 512gb 12.9 option(1299) with 429 USD added for KB+Pencil.
I ordered the MacBook Pro with 16GB unified memory and 1TB storage.
My rationale was that if the gpu and cpu are using the same memory that there will be much greater gains than with a standard system upgrading the memory
Is be wearing a Linus Tech Tips jacket?
yep
Waiting for hands on reviews and performance
Waiting for 16" MBP
More like waiting for a raise haha JK
i stopped using mac after my last quad mac cpu g5 but now with this m1, am exited, i saw a benchmark (*if official) a macbook air is as good as my 2700x ryzen? wow can't wait to see some testing.
There will obviously be things that a x86 cpu will outperform a 64 bit ram chip. This iteration might be slightly painful but it honestly doesn’t seem too bad. However the the more exciting part about this is this initial push from Apple is what was needed. Because now as history will repeat itself, Apple makes that first move and then everyone else starts to follow.
This will be very interesting how it will affect the desktop market in the long run. You mainly just have Intel and AMD (not including IBM) and if the mainstream pushes towards ARM for desktops they are going to need to adapt. On top of that, it brings other companies into the realm of processors for both desktops and laptops.
Microsoft has been very very slow and uneventful with their attempts, the surface RT was an actual dumpster fire and you couldn’t run anything on it. And just until now I had no idea Microsoft even released another arm based surface. They definitely can’t get any traction in that market yet. Especially considering the main pro at this point to windows is to have the most app compatibility. Where they couldn’t provide any type of solution to run normal windows apps.
@@IAmCjcj11 Qualcomm or Google should build an OS that will replace Windows, but as user familiar as windows. The OS market has been primarily not open for new players until now. This is the perfect time for a company to build a highly optimized open OS like Windows, and then sell it to manufacturers, make those partners, jumpstart the developers to build (if apple can port their intel apps to ARM, someone can find a way for developers to easily edit some codes from windows to the new OS too), and we won't be as reliant on apple no more.
@@user-ls4ng7fc7o there are rumours that windoze-11 will be a gnu/linux distribution - a huge progress for micosoft, but will be clearly the crappiest gnu/linux around for sure...
@@user-ls4ng7fc7o Google tried, it was terrible.
@@IAmCjcj11 x86 chips are ALL 64bit since the late 90's early 2000's except for the occasional specialist one. How will history repeat itself? Apple was late to drop RISC cpus (after even Alpha went under), LG had their touchscreen smartphone phone out 6 months prior to the iPhone, the iPod was largely bought off others (name, design, hardware, and software). I suppose having an 'open' store where people could submit their apps was new, but wasn't exactly open.
Surface RT was terrible, it was an unmitigated disaster because they were trying to emulate the closed ecosystem of Apple and didn't spend enough time making sure it had applications.
Big Sur will hopefully actually do what they were saying and allow WebP images and the other web standardised formats everyone else accepts.
I ordered the MacBook pro baseline 512gb/ 8gb ram model to see how close the base model can come to these claims. I also ordered a 16gb/1tb mac mini to hopefully used as a replacement for my 2019 i9 16gb MacBook pro 15. Excited to see what the outcome is.
I’m in the same boat here. I wish I knew what the benchmarks actually look like. I have a 2019 i9 16” 16GB 1TB but the fact that I could replace it with a Mac Mini for $679 for potentially the same performance and save $1,300 is tempting.
Should have waited for third party reviews...if your a casual home user, you won't be disappointed...but if you use your Mac for heavy workloads such as video editing, etc. you will be disappointed. The M1 is not much different than the A14 in the iPhone. It's silly to think that will out perform a x86 CPU. Plus there's a layer of emulation that takes place too. ARM can't run x86 apps natively.
@@GSP-76 But the A14 does outperform a lot of x86 CPUs?
@@GSP-76 you are wrong..M1 is not similar to A14 although it is based on A14..it is more like A14X which has more performance and gpu cores. even the previous A12X and A12Z perform much better than midrange x86 cpu..check your facts
@@GSP-76 Maybe, maybe not. I'm hearing for Office for example would simply need a binary that is context aware if you talk to IOS devs.
I will definitely wait for independent reviews because as you said just by looking at Apple's graphs you cant really tell what performance you will get.
Furthermore i am really curious about how well Rosetta 2 works and most importantly i want to know how well if at all Minecraft runs haha.
Honestly I’m afraid of it switching to minecraft bedrock because of how it supports all iOS games
One of my questions.
I think if runs Java it runs minecraft.
LOL same. I love minecraft
@@JeanSamyr i have read about JVM already running on the dev kit but allegedly there are some precompiled x86 libraries that dont work on arm (duh...)
@@knechtnoobrecht-c137 well if moajang address this on the Cave Update I will be happy
Snazzy: "What's holding you back"
Me: *being broke :(
XKCD’s timeline on iOS and MacOS looking more true every day.
so basically we can see GNU/Hurd in 2060?
which comic is that one? I think I missed it.
Will any of these changes make it harder to do homemade Hackintosh systems?
@@somenygaard a little bit harder, as in effectively impossible I would guess. Once macOS stops supporting x86, I’m pretty sure the hackintosh is dead.
@@somenygaard You bet your sweet ass! But in seriousness the Intel Mac Pro is going to have support til 2024 and after that Apple will effectively kill all x86 macs
I agree that the graphs are screaming "unreasonable user manipulation" because they can change the units however they want. As a math major, I was appalled that a trillion-dollar company couldn't label basic units on the two different axes.
That’s because you’re math major.
If you’re a marketing major you will understand why.
@@yogaexe I more than understand the salesmanship, and this graph is more than enough to convince the average apple fanatic to upgrade. good job apple misleading people for money
this trillion dollar company was built on marketing and not math
@@real_AV8R
Most people don’t know the signing of the numbers. They only know bigger is better. Which the graph has done it’s job.
You can argue this or that but the truth is the marketing works. The people who understand the real number will find it eventually.
And how is that misleading? Explain please.
@@real_AV8R most people on both camps don't care about graphs and numbers, and the people who do just wait for reviews.
Also, I am holding off to hear about the real world performance increases and the differences from MBP to AIR as I have been doing research in moving my video workflow to an ipad air or pro. Macs are only creative tools for me and consumption devices and if iPad can accomplish this best then fine by me.
Its easy to get "sold" during the keynotes and I admit I really am sold right now, so I am anxiously waiting for the results to come in before making a final decision.
This dudes a full grown nerd
Ikr
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Well you must be new
nothing wrong with it
Aren’t we all?
I would interpret:
"0.2 times improvement" to mean 20% better.
"1.2 times improvement" to mean 120% better.
"2.5 to 5 times as fast" would bean 150% to 400% better.
"0.2 times as fast" to mean 80% slower.
"1.2 times as fast" to mean 20% faster.
The term "improvement" to me means we are using a 1.0, or 100% as the baseline, and the "modifier" number given is implied to be added to that 1.0 baseline. The alternative would be to interpret a 0.2 times improvement to be an 80% downgrade, in which case "improvement" is being used incorrectly.
In any case, I think it's wise to use "x% improvement" for values of x between 1% and 100%. And "x times as much/faster" for values of double or higher.
Very good explanation except for one glaring error. 2.5x is not 150%, it’s 250%. Otherwise, you would have to change the 400% down to 300%. I personally believe that we should remove the initial on par 100% of the prior system and finish the conversion to a percentage number. Finish the math and let the reader stay on point with the article being read or listened to.
@@danny_the_K Thank you for the catch. I used unintended wording, and in fact, misunderstood the statement in the video. I'll edit the original post.
I meant "2.5 to 5 times as fast" would be a 150%-400% improvement. Which is what I thought the video was in effect saying.
The exact wording of the video was however, "All of these machines are increasing in performance anywhere between 2.5 to 5 times" which should be interpreted as 250% to 500%.
Although given the confusing nature of mixing "times" and "improving by" combined with the context of using relatively large numbers leaves me unsure whether the intent was actually 2.5 times base, or 2.5 times more than base (3.5 times base.) It's likely to be kind of moot, as this is probably Apple cherry-picking the best numbers they can possibly find.
How are you going to outperform 100% of something? Anything above 100% is imaginary.
doctor smarty pants
Oh. And Yes, I ordered one on release day. Why? Because I don't have to "guess" about Apple's..as you say..."claims". The model, was the mac mini because it is the most...performant model. Unfortunately, can't say why because of the "rules". :)
What’s holding me back? The fact that it’s only on the lower end 13”, I want at least a 14” and all 4 of my usbc ports
Facts this will be the point where I buy one
get a MBA now to get a taste and get a 14 inch later and give to MBA to someone else in your family.
@@SaruwatariMasahiro yeah not everyone is printing cash bro
@@SaruwatariMasahiro I’m currently using a 16” mbp, that would be a huge downgrade so for now you m sticking with this
@@willinton06 I'm definitely not printing cash, been saving up for a mac since 2016.
Quinn: If you haven’t [bought one] yet, why not?
Me: I don’t have money.
Same! Trying to save up to move in with my girlfriend, I wish I could have both :P
Do not buy it. Get yourself a PC instead. Mac is garbage.
@@xenotiic8356 Ah, you have a girlfriend. No wonder you have no money.
@@VoldoronGaming I already have one. I still want an M1 Mac.
@@VoldoronGaming I’ve use both PC and Mac and I like both. Neither is garbage whether you personally like it or not. While there are already multiple desktop PCs in my house, we do not have a Mac. I would like to have a Mac for things the Mac is better at, and honestly the Mac would maintain its performance for longer as Macs have better longevity.
I have a 2017 27” iMac with 4c8t i7, Radeon 580 8GB, 40GB RAM (8 stock, added 32). I will buy the next iMac Pro. Want 10 gig LAN (have a NAS) and need 4 TB3 Ports/2 Lanes. Now my thunderbolt NVMe has to share bandwidth. I have a Mac mini as well (6c i7, 32GB RAM, 10gig LAN) now the iMac has to follow. I’m very excited.
I bought the Mac mini, w/ 2TB and 16GB ram. When they mentioned tensorflow, I was sold. Looking forward to seeing how the Neural Engine can be used!
I thought about getting one but the limitation of no external gpu support and only being able to drive a single external display was very disappointing. For the mac mini it's 2 displays max. And the second display is eating into your thunderbolt bandwidth.
If you are serious about DL, get a GPU ...If you increase batch size reasonably even 8gb dedicated gddr is not enough😂 if you want to try out DL just get a Jetson nano. This new Mac "neural engine" just has no serious position in the market
Man, the fact that even the lowest end Macs sound this impressive has me excited for what they're gonna do with the high end models. I think this was an overall great move for Apple.
@NiceGuyGamer yeah but no egpu
@NiceGuyGamer tomb raider at 1080p on a 1k laptop? Crazy you can already do that. Its 1080p and with 0 indictation of fps. Egpus are very important it doesnt matter if the gpu performance is ok. Some people need high end gpus.
@@humble2246 the M1 has 2.6 teraflops should be good!
@@NMEofdaST8 you do realize that something like a ps4 pro has 2x the amount of tflops.
@@humble2246 duh... it’s not a gaming system bro it’s integrated graphics on a mobile SOC 🤦♂️
Of all the M1 roundups I’ve watch thus far this was the best. Great detail and explained in easy to understand language. Excellent video!
Thanks so much!!
Kudos, I’m still skeptical though.
But we’ll see how the benchmarks turn out.
Thank you, great summarisation. I'm looking forward to your take on the three devices once you get you hands on them next week.
More like week after next week. I ordered a MacBook on Nov 10, and delivery window is Dec 3-Dec 10.
Why is 8GB ram still the minimum? It’s been like that for 6 years.
They really could've at least double the Ram or something
@@JonathanMendez4820 any computer that is £1000 should have at least 16gb ram.
Because that's how much OSX needs to eat while starting up :) buahahaha
I'm hanging off for the 16" with what I assume will be the M1X
...and only if it has 4x USB ports.
I hope the 16 inch has a dedicated gpu.
me too. i can't figure out when they will release it. have you heard of anything?
@@brandonlarson5712 late Q2 2021 according to Kuo.
@@armeniancrusader301 the benchmarks show that the M1 has the same graphic performance as a Vega M XL, which is not too bad
I bet the 16” MBP and iMacs will have a different chip or multi chip. They always seem to use higher end chips in those products and leave the weaker sauce for mini, air and 13”. New Mac Pro will most likely have anew chip. M1Xeon? Lol.
"What's holding you back?"
_Money_
Get a job
@@UmVtCg lol, working during a pandemic already.
mum i need it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That and not having any standard ports! Make them 4 millimeters thicker already!
Think I'll wait a couple of years and see if x86 manufacturers will ever be capable of going the same way with their chips, if it would ever work on x86 that is. I've also noted that integrated memory is capped to just 8 or 16gb at the moment.
Thank you for providing closed-captioning on this video (slight hearing issue). 🙏🏻
5:30 hahaha i can't get over how stupid this chart is
I guess they did it on purpose "yes we know it's completely stupid, but our users don't really care, they will buy anyway"
What's wrong withit
@@cybercery5271 it doesn't have units/scale and "latest PC laptop chip" means absolutely nothing
abstract apple art
@@Enroxxx oh ok
Apple wanted to be respectful to Intel in their presentation, which I think is why they omitted comparing to their CPUs. After all, they are still partnering and also want to avoid getting sued.
6:13
Narration mixed up AMD and Intel power consumptions.
Apple silicon will probably be pretty amazing, and I can’t wait to see how they drive. But I’m still weary of how it will impact app makers and (more importantly) that we will lose 14 years of PC/Mac interoperability. This was a fact of life for a long time, like when I was in college: no taking that floppy or CD from a PC to a Mac! But nowadays now one would imagine you can’t just go back and forth from Mac to PC. It may very well return to this, and the Apple vs. PC choice may become much more loaded than it’s been in the past years...
I’m also worried that the universal apps between iOS and Mac won’t be that great, in that the quality and usability of apps will go down. iOS apps are pretty cool, but if we start having nothing but universal apps, I doubt these will be to the level of Mac apps, rather just taking iOS “simpler” apps and making them the new Mac standard. Time may prove me wrong, but I fear a future of candy coated, non-pro apps.
And I’m not even mentioning right to repair. That’s just a fact of the Apple life, and these are basically disposable computers now.
I know the right of repair is really important. Sometimes the machine has some minor problems here and there, and it can easily be fixed by a skillful technicians. But if i have to always bring my macbook or iphone to apple for repair, out of warranty, its a headache..
@@cmdaltctr Apple never repairs its products. Just scraps and sends you another. Right to repair is very important.
Soldered on ram sucks, but it isn't an rtr issue. And rtr issue would be if you replaced your soldered on ram and apple bricked your device for doing it.
If I have the skills to take apart apples soc and add more ram, yet apple bricks the device for doing so, that is an rtr issue.
Making something more complex isn't rtr. We need to be on the same page or we are never going to get it. If the tech people don't get it, how can we expect lawmakers.
@@herranton honestly for what Apple is offering I feel like this chip although centralizing a lot of components could be bad for repairabilitg I’d say it’s much more durable because the components are better protected
@@techblogger8323 You're right, it is bad for repairability. But that isn't what rtr is about. Rtr is about corporations telling you that you are not allowed to repair your own device even if you have the skills. It isn't about whether or not corporations make their devices complex.
A right to repair issue would be if you broke your network jack on the back, replaced it yourself, and that bricked the device because apple doesn't want 3rd party repairs.
Rtr is about specifically locking out possible repairs. It is not about making a device too complex to repair. They are VERY different things.
What’s holding me back is that Apple paid only 1.4% corporate tax in my country (UK) last year and I won’t buy their products directly now. I’m moving over to Linux and exiting Apple entirely but if I need an Apple device, I’ll wait until a refurbished second hand one comes available and buy it that way. Basically, I can’t abide tax evasion, which means I can’t abide Apple.
HI uh so the slide where they were like “worlds fastest processor” right before they showed that the guy said something along the lines of “as far as arm processors go” I think you missed that and tbh a lot of people did, no harm done but thought I should mention
It is the world's fastest processor released by Apple this semester
it’s quite close to being the fastest tho. it’s very close to the 5950x
I got the quote
“when it comes to low power silicon, our high performance core is the fastest cpu core”
Lol it’s almost beautiful how easily misleading that is
@@sheauiwne5294 lmao, no it's not
They've never said that lol.
“Check out our tear down from a couple years ago” and see the fan without heat tube. But...no link and, no, I can’t find a MacBook Air tear down in the list of your videos. Link?
You’re like one of the only tech TH-cam guys who understand how huge this is.
Hah you thought we don’t watch your ending quip, stay snazzy fellas
I’d love to say that this might kick intel into gear, but lol
@Benjamin Muller "I don't see a way back for them without some kind of major shake up" AMD 5000 series has entered the chat.
@Benjamin Muller They’ll probably have SOMETHING in the works, but their entire company will probably be worth half what it is currently, and they won’t be dominant like they were in the 2010s
Fun fact. CPU isn’t the only thing Intel made. Even upcoming ARM Macs do have certain Intel chipset in it to support the Thunderbolt 4 interface (Thunderbolt is under Intel), and also Intel do produce other stuffs like SSDs, Ethernet devices (Gigabit ethernet) etc.
Thank you for chosing sponsors that actually add to the subject of the video.
Honestly, the concept of ARM-based mainline computers really, *really* interests me. While I like AMD, I feel like ARM has so much potential. On top of that, the specs given by Apple when reading the fine print feels impressive to me. While I'm not exactly an Apple fanatic, I've preordered a 16GB Mini which is set to ship mid-December, so they'll probably be gearing up to ship it to me right around when people have gotten, benchmarked, and reviewed them, so I'll know by then if I'm making a mistake or not, hahah.
I'd like to order one but I'm torn between the air and pro so I'm waiting for folks like you to get them first.
Air is a no-brainer at this point. Maybe wait for the 16" if you really want significantly more performance gain.
@John Ibrahim I couldn’t wait as I had a 12inch “MacBook” somehow I created a freelance design career making 3k+ a month using that weak hunk of shit, I got the m1 pro with 16ram , I couldn’t wait I’m just gonna sell it and get the redesign when it drops, Apple has grabbed me by the balls
The future of the Mac is going to be interesting.
Totally irreparable also
@@ernestmccollum2397 very true. Mostly accurate today as well.
Because of the low power draw of this chip, has anyone considered the possibility of a dual m1 board for high end systems, "Oh Yeah now we're talking"
What I found disappointing when comparing the specs of the M1 vs Intel machines was the display support. Most the M1s only support one external display, where the intel was support multiple external displays. As a software developer I like to run three 4k monitors, so until they up the GPU performance I can't make the purchase.
As a software developer, i have a ton of questions. All the software intended for Intel macs won't run on this one.
They have Rosetta but what will be the impact on workflow?
Unfortunately, no one will address it.
I am running a 43" 3840x1440 and a 32" 4K both via my MacBook Pro 13" 2017 2x TB3 ports. I think I missed something, but what do you mean that the M1 e.g. MacBook Pro 13" M1 can only support 1 external display even though it has 2x TB4 ports? I am planning to purchase the Pro 13" M1.
@UCvxNwI2XaMpgySOw9HgO7_g Yes you are right OMG. Whats the logic reason to even have 2x TB ports? Maybe the 1st gen M1 cannot support 2x external displays? hmmm...
M1 supports 3 displays
which is better?
wanna run windows and other apps
MPB2020 16 GB i5 10gen 1tb ssd
MPB2020 16gb M1 256gbSSD
This is the most sensible reaction video to the new M1 Macs, and I like that you don’t bitch about the 16Gb UMA maximum. I think a lot of people are making a mistake thinking that Apple Silicon UMA will perform similarly to traditional RAM. That said, I did order the Mini with the 16Gb UMA and 512Gb SSD with plans to make it my primary 4K video editing machine. My main apps are FCPX, and a little Resolve, so seeing Apple claim 8K ProRes real-time playback in Resolve definitely impressed me. I think the future is bright for Mac on Apple Silicon!
I think the way to look at it is the M1 comes with an 8 GB or 16 GB L3 cache and uses its super-fast SSD for main memory.
@@fred_derf does this make the SSD the RAM in effect? Could it?
@@fred_derf Even their "super-fast SSD" would be insanely slow for RAM. Even 15 year old RAM can do the 2gb/s bandwidth that current SSDs do.
Doesn't look like M1 has L3 cache at all. Only 1 and 2.
@@rivengle; _"does this make the SSD the RAM in effect?"_
Yes. Through what's normally termed _virtual memory,_ we've been using secondary storage to expand primary storage for decades now.
@@madcroc111, writes _"Even their "super-fast SSD" would be insanely slow for RAM."_
You're missing the point, with a 16GB "L3 cache" (and I'm not saying it's actually an L3 cache, I'm saying you can think of it this way to understand the performance advantage of on-chip memory) you're almost never going to need to access the SSD as memory except to fill (or store from) the "L3 cache".
On an Intel or AMD CPU (for example) if you want your code to run at its absolute fastest, you need to make sure your code and data fit in the L1 cache, the next step is to make them fit in the L2 cache, etc. With the M1 processor if your code and data can fit in 8 or 16 GBs all of the memory is on die and insanely fast compared to an x86 system with the RAM being on external DIMMs.
As long as your active memory fits in the 8/16 GB on-die memory it's going to be insanely fast. And when it doesn't it's still going to be pretty damn fast.
This is no different than using a HD for virtual memory, which works great (even given the glacial pace of HD storage) in a huge number of use cases.
How many kidneys do you have?
finally found you with no likes
@@sacredbread same
infinite.
I have 2 lungs.
How many you looking for ?
10:41 What is the chances that they kept a (sandbagging) fan in the laptop, just to be able to brag about how M1 is amazing to allow for fan-less design?
Entirely possible but thermal throttling has been an ongoing issue with Intel chips in Mac laptops for a few years now tbf
Not all of these chips are the same across devices. It could be because technically the Mac Air has 7 GPU Units from Binning and the Pro has 8 and that alone benefits from non passive cooling and that will result in the performance gap between the 2
very high in my opinion at this point.
I’ll be waiting for the second generation of these chips. In tech, improvements from first to second gen are typically massive.
Agreed. I'm also really interested to see what their scaling will look like.
Remember these aren't really new chips, they are iterations of the phone chips they have been using for years. I doubt the generational jumps will be as large. But maybe they will add more than 8 cores which could net them some big gains in productivity apps.
As someone that had (and still has) the first Intel iMac & Mac Mini, that's totally true. The M2 versions will be way less compromised.
@@glharlor Keep in mind these phone chips had no active cooling in the iPhone and were outperforming intel laptop chips. They keep widening the decoder block, which is why they are so fast even at fairly modest clockspeeds. The A12 & A13 were 7-WIDE. A14 & M1 are 8-WIDE. x86 designs from Intel & AMD are still stuck at 4 because of the ISA's legacy baggage. There is no other chip architecture that can decode instructions as fast as the M1. The only other one that can rival it is the IBM POWER10, which has still not been released and will be used in mainframe supercomputers.
I ordered the high end Air on launch day. The only reason I didn't go for Pro is this is the baseline Pro version and Apple will release the high end one next year.
I'm super excited for the future of these chips! I'm actually in the market for a new macbook, so I'm definitely wanting to get my hands on one of these, but I'm going to wait to see 3rd party reviews first. They made some very bold, yet vague/ambiguous, claims in their presentation. I'm interested to see how they stack up in reality. Thanks for the amazing content!
Hmm do I want the iPad without a touch screen, the iPad without a screen or the iPad with a Touch Bar?
Ah, a man of culture I see. And good choices in tech news sources.
Can't afford the mac. Had to buy a used certified from my brother. LOL! Loving it ever since. Transitioned from an Macbook Air to the Macbook Pro! loving it!
"Faster than 98%" X2 faster with latest PC CPU!
Words of a con artist: Apple
Is it faster than Superman’s speeding bullet ?
Their marketing may be garbage for the gullible masses, but honestly, my macbook pro has served me well.
Apple is great at "technically not" misinformation marketing.
7:00 Adding a bit of that, we can probably surmise "Fastest" means when it is adequately cooled. I wouldn't be surprised if, even at 10-15W, it will still downclock to protect itself. If it actually had active cooling it could, potentially reach the claims of "Fastest in Class" monicor.
We'll see Quinn, we'll see... :-)
People don’t realise how bigger deal this is! It will change the entire consumer market. Data centres already use 98 core 398 thread ARM cpus ! That’s the future ! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
*Quinn tweets*
Apple : Write that down, write that down
I literally thought the same thing 😂
Apple over here getting the prophecies for free.
0:50 This was the moment when I knew…I had to smack “like” on this video.
I thought it was a yoda at first
What's holding me back? Lack of legacy support, and the possibility of osx becoming a closed system like ios.
5:16
If I was to take it on literal meaning, I would go by the release date of the CPU, rather than a quantifiable model or performance metric. Interesting marketing blurb.
I'd be surprised if it was compared against something like a AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS.
Apple: "M1 has the fastest CPU cores in the world"
Ryzen 5000 series: "Are you sure about that?"
Apple: "M1 has the fastest CPU cores in the world" Per watt
Yeah the entire MacBook Air body uses as much as 30w how much power does Ryzen 5000 uses? Still both better than intel though lol
I do wish Apple adds Ryzen to their lineup and ditch intel since they already been using Radeon since 6 years ago.
Look at the analysis on Anandtech of the A14. The A14 in the iPhone is already almost as fast as the single core boost of the Ryzen 5950, AMD’s fastest core. It is easy to see that once that core isn’t limited to 5W it will be faster than AMD’s core.
@@Fredjikrang under what workload? It matters, A LOT.
What's holding me back is what I use my current Mac mini (2012)for which is ripping my dvd's and blu ray that I buy and watching them at home with plex.Will I still be able to run Makemkv and Handbrake?
I'm holding off because like everyone else, I want to know how these macs even compare to each other and current intel macs and secondly because I expect higher performing macs with more ports in 2021!
I wouldn't hold your breath... If they could go full wireless charging I bet they'd go totally PORT FREE. It's like a social experiment they're running to prove people will keep buying them anyway. I'm using the last fully functional mac laptop, the late 2012 w/disc drive! I love ports!
I absolutely love bootcamp as an added feature on my 16" MBP, which encouraged me to upgrade before the keynote. That basemodel is stellar value IMHO and I love that I can do all my work in macOS and run my whole steam library off it at the same time if I want to (with great graphics on that screen)
It look like bootcomp is out on the M1 mac and you steam will not be able to run.
A silly question: could I fit a new Mac Mini up to my iPad Pro and its Magic Keyboard??:-);-)..........
“THIS is the new Apple M1 chip” dug demuro look alike 😂
I actually got bamboozled by the thumbnail
demuro is a snazzy wannabe
@@senorfrog5605 I know that. He’s a reviewer that honestly probably doesn’t even know to change a tire
Option 1: "Hey, Apple didn't give us hard numbers -- wait for independent 3rd party testing"
Option 2: "You can't trust the numbers from Apple -- wait for independent 3rd party testing"
Same same.
So true!
I’m going to wait for the M2 they will learn a lot from the M1.
What's holding me back
My wallet.
Anyway i was waiting for your video after they announced the mac series. It's disappointing that they didn't introduce touch interface as you predicted.
What's holding my back? I like repairing devices. No toss out like Apple likes.
@@ernestmccollum2397 cool story bro
@@rdvgrd6 actually it is. Apple selling this crap environmental friendly with the iPhone but refusing to allow repair? Crap
@@unloveableandre There are tons of apple authorized places where you can have any apple products repaired wtf are you talking about
I think I'm the only one who doesn't want touch screen on Mac
Great video. I love the "I told you so" flex.. it speaks to credibility, which leads to subs.
The Mac Mini has always been a family fave, but this one...no. The whole point of it is to be a hub computer. It’s the ONLY Mac without a screen that you could hook up your own monitor, storage drives, and eGPU’s to. Or at least it WAS. Half that body is empty now. No SODIMM slots, no M.2 slots, and no more eGPUs that made it compete with much more expensive iMacs. Very sad. I guess I’ll build that Hackintosh after all.
It's strange that there are some people complaining about the prices, be the new Macs around 1000$ cheaper than the ones with an Intel CPU!
🤦♂️
Imagine being invested in a hardware ecosystem where it's _possible_ to spend $1000 less and still have a functioning computer.
Or you could buy something better with the same amount you spend on A1.....?
@@kiattim2100 there isn’t something better at the moment ... sorry ... if you exclude i9s/Xeons ...
"Security", this isn't security, it's jailing users from using their own hardware as they see fit.
Also say good bye to open source apps that apple can't care less about (blender, vlc, audacity, gimp, inkscape...) so you better start getting used to paying adode to do anything useful on those machines.
I assume that the M1 is their lowest tier SoC as the more expensive devices with Intel are still sold. With a higher performance M chip they might add stuff back like 4 Thunderbolt ports and 10 Gb Ethernet.
Their M1 devices are quite frankly like the MacBook redesign with one port. Very cool, very interesting but more appealing to an average user than professionals.
Well done Snazzy. I predict that APPLE will release the iPhone 13 next year in September with an A15 chip.