Thanks for the praise, but I got that info from Paul Ulibarri. It works especially well on approach shots where you can't get a good run up. Glad it helped😊
I watched this video and the video before this last night. I had been driving around 330-350ft consistently on my full power drives. After watching these videos and really being intentional about practicing each step on their own before putting them together, I threw 418ft just 20 minutes ago. Measured with UDisc measure throw. I threw multiple 390’s and 400+’s. 11/10 content out here!!!
Exploding off the back leg is somewhat true. Stick with me here... It's more starting with your weight on your back leg and standing up into the throw. Tristin Tanner explains this pretty well in his forehand tutorial. The weight transfer acts as if you are exploding into the throw. This will effect your upper body timing. Push or stand up into the throw with passive arm and wrist, causing your arm to lag behind you. Once you have the forward momentum and lag from created from your leg drive, pull your elbow thru close to your body, maintaining a passive wrist. Similar to a backhand, your arm is now acting like a whip and the disc will naturally snap out your hand with a ton of power and spin without feeling like you are snapping your wrist at all. The natural wrist snap will happen from your arm whipping forward. The most difficult part (to me) is maintaining a strong grip without hindering your wrist's ability to hinge freely. You have to find that happy medium. **Slower arm speed shots you will need to add more wrist snap for more spin and control. I would still recommend the natural passive/hinging wrist with any shot in which you pull your elbow through quickly. This will allow for a cleaner release. Scott Stokely is spot on with the arm slot and changing your body angle instead of your arm. This also helps with injury prevention.
This was actually probably the most beneficial side arm instructional video. Well done and I’m definitely going to implement some of these into my game!
The Scott Stokely video you referenced is what got me a playable and actually decent forehand, so I'm glad you referenced it. I like the idea of ensuring I'm putting pressure on my middle finger, and I might give that split grip a try. The stacked grip's never done it for me (power grip feels right and gets me way more consistency), but keen to try it for sure.
I've always been a better forehand thrower but I've never been able to use my middle finger in my grip just feels uncomfortable I only use my pointer finger on the rim and I get better results tho I know it shouldn't be that way lol
Both the traditional stacked and power grips are uncomfortable for me, so I do a hybrid of the two; I pull my index finger back so the pad is close to the top knuckle of my middle finger. Before that I was primarily stacked or fanned, but since then I've been generating a lot more snap, sometimes audible to others
An interesting grip I use is to bring the ring finger and pinky to the underside of the rim. It doesn't necessarily equate to better distance, but I have found it be a good control grip. Also, the tips from that Scott Stokely video gave me a small boost in distance, and a bad case of golfer's elbow and took my very robust forehand out of commission for months. When trying new stuff be careful it doesn't hurt your body!
I did one of Scott Stokely's clinics and never threw forearm before then. It's been extremely useful learning from him and has definitely become a staple throw since then.
Thanks for this! I love a forehand throw (I used to play a lot of baseball). It's the only way I can compete on distance with the guys I play with. Also makes me feel a bit more confident that I actually am on the right path for technique despite what they think...
watched that exact stokely video. hand no forehand before that. just touchy upshots. went to a field and tried what he said and now i throw 300ft forehand consistently. so thanks. never would have looked at that if i hadn't watched this video!
Thank you so much for the phenomenal contact! The baseball tip helped immensely!Can’t wait to get more field time in with it and dial in the angle control.
Yeah man, @Scott Stokely is hands down one of the best teachers out there. Not sure what it is exactly about his method but, I can understand and translate his teaching to the course way better than from most other sources.
Tried out these tips today in the field, had a drastic improvement in reducing the amount of flutter and in increasing distance, but throwing it too high is still a problem. there's always more work to do!
I have seen my dad push out to 450 feet nearly 60 being 58 at the time 2017. He does this wrist flick at the end that the fingers go around to 90 degree bend. The other is using less OS discs but more neutral OS unless he needs the hard left or is fighting winds. Lastly he does likes the larger diameter OS midrange Wasp or fairway Has a Stalker in the 180 gram diameter max for his forehand when not needing the distance though not the Condor or Zephyr big as those are then too catch disc/Frisbee like for Disc Golf to get the distance needed as easy, same with most putters though I did see him with a older 170 gram Hydra pushing the disc forehand for shorter distance since the Hydra is almost a slow midrange in the speed it gets.
over the last couple of weeks I have improved my forehand greatly and have primarily used this technique except when putting. I believe that better follow through was responsible for more distance and no pain while playing. trying this months ago when my follow through was nonexistent left me hurting constantly, now I play two 21-hole games in a row with no problem. good video idea, thank you.
Try holding the disc with no grip, with two fingers in the power position. Basically just set it on your hand with enough grip to support the disc. When you throw, totally relax your hand. This will make the hand feel heavier. When you throw, focus on snapping the wrist, and spinning with your index finger as you release.
For context, I was outfield in baseball and played tennis from 5 - 21. So I'm FH dominant lol I was surprised to not see the standstill. I had received your enire list of tips (🤣), when I got hooked with the sport. AND the standstill became the foundation for my skill progression.
Little surprised you didn't try a 1 finger grip with the 3 others. It's a pretty awkward for a lot of people, but I find I get way more spin from it. With a pointer finger only grip you can really emphasize following through into the ground and really snapping the disc off your finger. Feels natural to a baseball pitcher.
@@maxwellbuhler8493 ive talked to old guys who cant use their finger because of 1 finger flicks. You are putting too much force on 1 set of joints with a 175 gram disc
Thanks for great tips and informative video. But even more I want to credit you for how much effort you have put into this video editing/filming wise. Well paced video, with great jokes and some cool transitions (like 03:32). As you said, the small things make the biggest difference and definitely that’s how it goes with videos too. Thanks, I enjoyed it, new subscriber. ✌🏾
Love the content. I'm like you I used to throw a really decent forehand, but got away from it. Seeing these videos has encouraged me to work it back into my game. Thanks.
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf hi, couple helpful tips i have learned: I would recommend trying to lean forward in the end of the throw, and staying balanced on the front leg. Second tip is to follow through forward first, then to the side. Not to the side first.
The split grip allows your first finger to hold the disc on its plane better. With stacked and power grips the weight of the disc is past the fingers and can pull the disc into a hyzer.
on your run-up, TURN BACKWARDS MORE with your rear foot touching down at the 5 oclock position, start rotating through and stomp your forward plant foot down in a 2 oclock position (exaggerating the weight transfer) as you perform the "stokely throw" transitioning your weight forward and dragging your rear foot on its' toe, throwing towards the 12 position. The key is transferring your upper body forward during the throw so you get the correct nose angle. Try it, you're gonna love the results
So good! Thanks for compiling these tips. I can't wait to try these out too. I finally broke 300ft after watching your last video... maybe this one will get me to 350! 🤞I'm especially intrigued by the split grip and back foot launching tips.
Brian, the 3/4 arm angle should get you there! I'm 56 and have been throwing forehand since I started playing 4 years ago. I was coming off ankle surgery and needed to not twist my right ankle at release so I learned how to play using forehand. I've using the 3/4 angle since I watched Paul Ulibarri play a round in front of me a few years ago. I'm regularly over 400' and I'm just an average ex-jock old guy. You can do it, go to the field and start experimenting. I've found the stacked grip with a little extra middle finger pressure works best while trying to get the arm slot correct. Good luck!
Been working on that on approach to the basket it works with muscle memory, throw in tight four feet space in midway it turns nice, just a little to solidify the line and it strikes in the middle. Nice sound of loud banging of chains, devastating beautiful birdies* * most courses are par 3s
I gym a lot and do calisthenics for explosiveness so my back and arms are pretty strong for still being lean. I'm fairly tall too. I almost exclusively throw forehands and lately I started trying to put more power in with my whole body, especially explosive power. This makes so much sense in confirming what I've somewhat figured out myself. Also throwing some of my discs on an right upward angle they get such a nice S that sometimes just keeps going very far. I feel like after 2-3 years of playing casually I kinda have it down as a mainly forehand player, with room to grow of course :)
My forehand has never been useful. I’ve been throwing frisbees and discs backhand forever. The more tips I can get the better. Thanks for posting such great content. As soon as I saw Flight Towel had a Trash Panda restock I paused the vid and bought one. Then I finished the vid only to find I could have got a signed one if I’d been patient and watched the whole thing! 🤣
I started this spring ...I am throwing 180 -200 ft max ( the good thing is on the corses around here I can shoot birdies often ) forehand is the best way I can throw ,I have more accurate shots with more distance I have an exlnt short game, anything inside 75 ft is ringing chains I have fun at the end of the day that is what is all about I will be using these tips and scotts video too
So glad you added some jokes and rod. Best movie ever!! That's what stuck out to me haha also, these videos are great. Not a whole lot like this in the TH-cam disc golf world.
I find all my longest drives are exploded from hip point with a whip crack (very little follow through other than maybe stepping forward after), hip shifted out to the side and shoulders/bicep lower to the ground. I can tell when it all comes together, but there’s something about the feet timing that I can’t quite describe yet. It’s definitely something to do with front foot plant and the flick snap timing. I think they have to be almost simultaneous. I’d need to see videos of my +400 flicks vs the mistimed ones. The mistimed ones feel like I waited to long after the front foot planted. A well timed flick requires barely any run up and happens pretty quickly in contrast to an equally massive backhand.
And to play devil’s advocate, I found Scott Stokley’s tips just F’d up my flick more than helping it. The theory makes sense, but every time I tried thinking about the baseball idea I’d throw an annie throwler. Had to reset and relearn my technique of exploding from hip point with a low snap. The only time I use arm follow through is when I want more hyzer and less spin or sometimes for low canopies to have more nose down and less flip/lift to improve accuracy.
Stokely's on point! But so is everyone else. A good hinge at the waist has always been good for me. It allows for more rotation. But also it helps to conceptualize the lower body and follow-through pieces. Since the hinge is kind of like "coiling", leg thrust adds power and follow through provides a necessary release for that extra power. All these tips work together.
The way I see it. If you're not hinging at the waist, you're asking your hip rotation to occur only on a horizontal plane. With a hinge, you're operating in a 360 plane. More space for rotation and torque. And anything you do at the waist, you're leveraging that into your shoulders. So follow through has to be exaggerated because you're adding more travel to hips and more so, shoulders.
And, as for the lower-body. When you hinge, you're putting more stress on your legs, because you're not "up and down". Your center of gravity has moved outward. This means that you have to be stronger in the legs throughout the motion! The back leg (refd in the video) is the one that pushes you out of the hinge, uncorks, uncoils. Add some thrust, here, and you're giving your upper body a boost. And that's why the follow thru is critical.
I think the split grip (forehand fan grip) works so well because the disc is supported a lot better and prevents off axis torque, giving the disc a much better spin.
More follow through is better. It helps keep momentum and also assists with consistent accuracy. Also, much easier on your joints in the long run. - my wife, a kinesiologist
the pull/fallow through, could try full extension of your arm, like Eagle or Kooling. Like the "elbow-to-hip" motion but dont stick your elbow from your hip during the pull/fallow through. might be something to try
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf for forehand long putting and approaching, i use a unique grip. Similar to a stack grip, but with all four fingers under the disc, and more finger pad on the plate rather then rim, and with a more karate chop kinda motion rather then a usual forehand. Most likely does an anhyzer angle. Overstable to stable putter. Been a game changer for me, might be something to mess around with... or make a joke skit for a video LMAO
I think the “explode through the back leg”advice is meant to be timed up with when you start to accelerate the disc. It amplifies the acceleration through your body, just like when you drive through the front leg on a backhand
I switched to the split grip a few months back to help clean up my forehand release angle (which it did), but have found myself moving back to more of a stacked grip for full power drives, with a little twist (so the pad of my middle finger is against the rim instead of just the side, and my wrist bends naturally) and am getting a bit more distance (350ish). I do find that getting a clean flex line at 90% power is better than trying to overpower it, but that's true of backhand as well. I do feel that I need to explore "more grip". I just marvel at the variation in forehands I see out there. Some are super compact with no run-up, no backhand wind-up or follow-through and they still outdrive me by 50-100ft. I see folks putting meat hooks on a 35 degree anhyzer with no glide, out there 350, and wonder what they could do with a less OS disc.
Great video. Personally I find that after about 320ft accuracy becomes very important and its rare that the basket is 400 ft away with no trees in the way. Basically throwing 400ft at a basket is different than field practice
Try the mcbeth grip! It's a mix of power and stack where you have your index under your middle finger. It makes the disc come out much smoother and is hard to mess up the disc if you accidently roll your wrist
I'm a forehand dominant player, I watched this whole vid, and the one thing I took away was... "I've never seen a full run up for a forehand, I have try that!" So I did! I lost some accuracy, but gained about 30ft! You should def do a vid on your run up, if you haven't!
Yeah a runup also will give you more excitement In your throw and for me it seems to keep my shoulder from dipping. Giving a nice release. The only thing he showed I dont do and never have is split grip. I'm definitely gonna try it out.
Try and turn your fingers into the outside rim of the disc so that the disc comes off the pad of your middle finger better. That small change has helped me throw forehands around 450 and 400 consistently
I've played 1 game so far. Yup, totally new to this. I already ordered a starter set. And just wanted to say, although I have no experience, this video was super helpful, because it gives me a lot of hints on things I can focus on to improve my (very bad) throws. Thanks!
nah, Ryan Sheldon. Played minor league baseball forever as a pitcher and switched to disc golf, can throw 600+ and 82mph says to use over stable, throw like ever so slight anni, explode off back leg and kick it out while rotating your body and hips, flexibility in elbow and shoulder is key, and grip can play a major role, find one that feels comfortable and lets you flick your wrist and fingers. do push ups and pull ups and stretch shoulder elbow wrist and fingers like crazy, just like backhand, its a slingshot
I had a groove. It was a pure meat hook and I ended up trading it away for a substantial price cut. At the time my star destroyer was exactly the same for me. I kept the destroyer and now it is my go to for controlled distance and I wondered constantly if I made a horrible mistake. If you were getting rid of yours despite having had an ace with it then I probably didn't make a mistake.
more followthrough is better. not for distance tho, but for longevity of your throwing arm. you put less wear on your throwing arm if you throw with more followthrough cause you have a longer time to decelerate your arm which puts it under less stress.
I've tried every variation of two finger forehand grip and never could get it. Always came out super wobbly and no distance or accuracy whatsoever. I was watching a pro tournament the other day and one of the players used a single finger grip and was throwing bombs. So I decided to give it a shot and unbelievably I can now throw forehands for the first time in my life. 370 average and very accurate with no wobble. It goes to show that everyone is different and there are so many ways to get a disc flying.
I’ve been struggling with forehand “wobbles”, which I’m sure hurt distance. Have experimented with different grips (power, stacked (pads on flight plate), stacked (pads on inside of rim), with none of them resulting in a cleaner release, but I haven’t tried the split grip yet. Will try it next time out. Thanks!!
I have the same issues, I’m a fairly new player and pretty much only throw backhand. I’m looking forward to getting out there and trying split grip though!
One this that was interesting to me is that even on your “more” follow through, it’s less that I would use for a max distance shot. If you can use the power going over your plant foot I bet you throw farther.
Honestly, my biggest tip is to not follow the "learn to flick understable stuff first" thing. If you're just starting to try to learn a flick, trying to flick a DX Cobra is just gonna piss you off and make you not want to learn it. Start with an overstable disc. You'll see the immediate benefit to having that shot shape, even if it's not a great throw. Then, as you get better with that, work your way into straighter discs. Then, once you're ready, try something real flippy.
I throw forehand with one finger... I'm tired of everyone making fun of me even though I throw further than all of my friends. I'll try some of these out. Thanks for the tip(s). 😄
One of Stokely's tips is to throw with one finger if you cannot bend your wrist so much, you have less power but more spin, and generating spin is what is important.
I always tell my friends to turn their hand sideways so the flick motion doesn’t overturn the disc and you get a more natural, quicker snap out of your hand
I started out throwing forehand but spent so much time practicing backhands that I lost my forehand. Been trying to rebuild that since it's so important to being flexible in this game.
I’m no pro, but maybe try being less up-right. Bending over more allows you to keep your arm/shoulder more upright while still keeping the disc flat. Watch how sidearm baseball pitchers throw, it’s essentially the same motion… they’re bent over to generate more power. You can’t throw a baseball very hard standing up-right with a sidearm angle. Hopefully this makes sense
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Thanks for the praise, but I got that info from Paul Ulibarri. It works especially well on approach shots where you can't get a good run up. Glad it helped😊
I watched this video and the video before this last night. I had been driving around 330-350ft consistently on my full power drives. After watching these videos and really being intentional about practicing each step on their own before putting them together, I threw 418ft just 20 minutes ago. Measured with UDisc measure throw. I threw multiple 390’s and 400+’s. 11/10 content out here!!!
WHAT 😱 so stoked about that man!
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf your advice and videos are OUTSTANDING!!! KEEP IT COMING
Split grip is great for mid ranges and putters.
Exploding off the back leg is somewhat true. Stick with me here... It's more starting with your weight on your back leg and standing up into the throw. Tristin Tanner explains this pretty well in his forehand tutorial. The weight transfer acts as if you are exploding into the throw. This will effect your upper body timing. Push or stand up into the throw with passive arm and wrist, causing your arm to lag behind you. Once you have the forward momentum and lag from created from your leg drive, pull your elbow thru close to your body, maintaining a passive wrist. Similar to a backhand, your arm is now acting like a whip and the disc will naturally snap out your hand with a ton of power and spin without feeling like you are snapping your wrist at all. The natural wrist snap will happen from your arm whipping forward. The most difficult part (to me) is maintaining a strong grip without hindering your wrist's ability to hinge freely. You have to find that happy medium.
**Slower arm speed shots you will need to add more wrist snap for more spin and control. I would still recommend the natural passive/hinging wrist with any shot in which you pull your elbow through quickly. This will allow for a cleaner release.
Scott Stokely is spot on with the arm slot and changing your body angle instead of your arm. This also helps with injury prevention.
Thanks for the thoughtful and extensive advice Chayse!
This was actually probably the most beneficial side arm instructional video. Well done and I’m definitely going to implement some of these into my game!
I'm digging the shorts. 👍🏻
Great video. Thank you for sharing! Very much appreciated. 😎
The Scott Stokely video you referenced is what got me a playable and actually decent forehand, so I'm glad you referenced it. I like the idea of ensuring I'm putting pressure on my middle finger, and I might give that split grip a try. The stacked grip's never done it for me (power grip feels right and gets me way more consistency), but keen to try it for sure.
I've always been a better forehand thrower but I've never been able to use my middle finger in my grip just feels uncomfortable I only use my pointer finger on the rim and I get better results tho I know it shouldn't be that way lol
Me too his tips actually made it so I have a forehand.
Both the traditional stacked and power grips are uncomfortable for me, so I do a hybrid of the two; I pull my index finger back so the pad is close to the top knuckle of my middle finger. Before that I was primarily stacked or fanned, but since then I've been generating a lot more snap, sometimes audible to others
At 0:38 there is a secret trash panda running in the field in the background.
An interesting grip I use is to bring the ring finger and pinky to the underside of the rim. It doesn't necessarily equate to better distance, but I have found it be a good control grip.
Also, the tips from that Scott Stokely video gave me a small boost in distance, and a bad case of golfer's elbow and took my very robust forehand out of commission for months. When trying new stuff be careful it doesn't hurt your body!
I did one of Scott Stokely's clinics and never threw forearm before then. It's been extremely useful learning from him and has definitely become a staple throw since then.
U shld try the stokley FH reachback
Thanks for this! I love a forehand throw (I used to play a lot of baseball). It's the only way I can compete on distance with the guys I play with. Also makes me feel a bit more confident that I actually am on the right path for technique despite what they think...
More follow through will prevent injury. You can do it with less but it will catch up with you in the long run. Always follow through.
Ohhh great tip! Didn't even think about the physical effects like that.
watched that exact stokely video. hand no forehand before that. just touchy upshots. went to a field and tried what he said and now i throw 300ft forehand consistently. so thanks. never would have looked at that if i hadn't watched this video!
Love the flight towel concept.
Super cool!
Thank you so much for the phenomenal contact! The baseball tip helped immensely!Can’t wait to get more field time in with it and dial in the angle control.
The tip at 5:15 wasn’t too bad either…😂
Thank YOU! And super glad to hear they helped man!!
Trash Panda disc golf - I just wanted to thank you for your videos. You seem to have a great attitude, keep it clean, and very informative!
Yeah man, @Scott Stokely is hands down one of the best teachers out there. Not sure what it is exactly about his method but, I can understand and translate his teaching to the course way better than from most other sources.
Nice, 40 secs in & I've gleaned some info already. Now I know what a flight towel is for! I'll carry on I'm sure there is more helpful bits to follow.
I really like this concept of showing several different things and comparing first impressions.
Tried out these tips today in the field, had a drastic improvement in reducing the amount of flutter and in increasing distance, but throwing it too high is still a problem. there's always more work to do!
"Just the tips" is such a good series!
I have seen my dad push out to 450 feet nearly 60 being 58 at the time 2017. He does this wrist flick at the end that the fingers go around to 90 degree bend. The other is using less OS discs but more neutral OS unless he needs the hard left or is fighting winds. Lastly he does likes the larger diameter OS midrange Wasp or fairway Has a Stalker in the 180 gram diameter max for his forehand when not needing the distance though not the Condor or Zephyr big as those are then too catch disc/Frisbee like for Disc Golf to get the distance needed as easy, same with most putters though I did see him with a older 170 gram Hydra pushing the disc forehand for shorter distance since the Hydra is almost a slow midrange in the speed it gets.
I wanna see a sweet garage set-up vid! Love to see how you have everything set up at home.
Split grip is good for control I find. When I am approaching with a forehand, split grip helps me to hit gaps and keep it controlled.
over the last couple of weeks I have improved my forehand greatly and have primarily used this technique except when putting. I believe that better follow through was responsible for more distance and no pain while playing. trying this months ago when my follow through was nonexistent left me hurting constantly, now I play two 21-hole games in a row with no problem. good video idea, thank you.
Try holding the disc with no grip, with two fingers in the power position. Basically just set it on your hand with enough grip to support the disc. When you throw, totally relax your hand. This will make the hand feel heavier. When you throw, focus on snapping the wrist, and spinning with your index finger as you release.
Definitely gonna try the straddle grip forehand, may help me keep it flat too! Plus pressure on middle finger. Great video as always jesse!
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For context, I was outfield in baseball and played tennis from 5 - 21.
So I'm FH dominant lol
I was surprised to not see the standstill.
I had received your enire list of tips (🤣), when I got hooked with the sport.
AND the standstill became the foundation for my skill progression.
Little surprised you didn't try a 1 finger grip with the 3 others. It's a pretty awkward for a lot of people, but I find I get way more spin from it. With a pointer finger only grip you can really emphasize following through into the ground and really snapping the disc off your finger. Feels natural to a baseball pitcher.
This is how I was taught to throw forehands by a friend that ayed ultimate, it is still my go to throw.
the only time i forehand with 2 fingers is low speed discs like putters or midranges. Otherwise I never could figure out a 2 finger forehand throw
1 finger grips = arthritis in 5 years
@@austinthrowsstuff literally never
@@maxwellbuhler8493 ive talked to old guys who cant use their finger because of 1 finger flicks. You are putting too much force on 1 set of joints with a 175 gram disc
Thanks for great tips and informative video. But even more I want to credit you for how much effort you have put into this video editing/filming wise. Well paced video, with great jokes and some cool transitions (like 03:32). As you said, the small things make the biggest difference and definitely that’s how it goes with videos too. Thanks, I enjoyed it, new subscriber. ✌🏾
Love the content. I'm like you I used to throw a really decent forehand, but got away from it. Seeing these videos has encouraged me to work it back into my game. Thanks.
Thanks James! Would love to hear how it goes!!
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf hi, couple helpful tips i have learned: I would recommend trying to lean forward in the end of the throw, and staying balanced on the front leg. Second tip is to follow through forward first, then to the side. Not to the side first.
The split grip allows your first finger to hold the disc on its plane better. With stacked and power grips the weight of the disc is past the fingers and can pull the disc into a hyzer.
Love your channel man ! Found you recently and I am super glad I did! You have great content keep up the good work!
Thanks Ty!! 🤘
Love watching these tip videos!
Thanks Chaney!
on your run-up, TURN BACKWARDS MORE with your rear foot touching down at the 5 oclock position, start rotating through and stomp your forward plant foot down in a 2 oclock position (exaggerating the weight transfer) as you perform the "stokely throw" transitioning your weight forward and dragging your rear foot on its' toe, throwing towards the 12 position. The key is transferring your upper body forward during the throw so you get the correct nose angle. Try it, you're gonna love the results
So good! Thanks for compiling these tips. I can't wait to try these out too. I finally broke 300ft after watching your last video... maybe this one will get me to 350! 🤞I'm especially intrigued by the split grip and back foot launching tips.
You got it bro!! So stoked they helped 🤘
Brian, the 3/4 arm angle should get you there! I'm 56 and have been throwing forehand since I started playing 4 years ago. I was coming off ankle surgery and needed to not twist my right ankle at release so I learned how to play using forehand. I've using the 3/4 angle since I watched Paul Ulibarri play a round in front of me a few years ago. I'm regularly over 400' and I'm just an average ex-jock old guy. You can do it, go to the field and start experimenting. I've found the stacked grip with a little extra middle finger pressure works best while trying to get the arm slot correct. Good luck!
@@richc5825 Awesome, thank you! I'll try that out next time I'm out!
Been working on that on approach to the basket it works with muscle memory, throw in tight four feet space in midway it turns nice, just a little to solidify the line and it strikes in the middle. Nice sound of loud banging of chains, devastating beautiful birdies*
* most courses are par 3s
I’d love a video where you work on combing all these tips into a new throwing form.
I gym a lot and do calisthenics for explosiveness so my back and arms are pretty strong for still being lean. I'm fairly tall too. I almost exclusively throw forehands and lately I started trying to put more power in with my whole body, especially explosive power. This makes so much sense in confirming what I've somewhat figured out myself. Also throwing some of my discs on an right upward angle they get such a nice S that sometimes just keeps going very far. I feel like after 2-3 years of playing casually I kinda have it down as a mainly forehand player, with room to grow of course :)
My forehand has never been useful. I’ve been throwing frisbees and discs backhand forever. The more tips I can get the better. Thanks for posting such great content. As soon as I saw Flight Towel had a Trash Panda restock I paused the vid and bought one. Then I finished the vid only to find I could have got a signed one if I’d been patient and watched the whole thing! 🤣
You're the man, Matthew! And the best tip is simply time and practice.. you got it!
I started this spring ...I am throwing 180 -200 ft max
( the good thing is on the corses around here I can shoot birdies often )
forehand is the best way I can throw ,I have more accurate shots with more distance
I have an exlnt short game, anything inside 75 ft is ringing chains
I have fun at the end of the day that is what is all about
I will be using these tips and scotts video too
Awesome vid...I'm a new subscriber now! I am interested in trying out the different grips, adding pressure to the middle finger, and the 3/4 throw!
Just the tips 🤣
Just for a minute, just to see how it feels…..
So glad you added some jokes and rod. Best movie ever!! That's what stuck out to me haha also, these videos are great. Not a whole lot like this in the TH-cam disc golf world.
Scott Stokely's forehand video was a game changer to me too
I loved the Hot Rod stitch😂😂😂
I find all my longest drives are exploded from hip point with a whip crack (very little follow through other than maybe stepping forward after), hip shifted out to the side and shoulders/bicep lower to the ground. I can tell when it all comes together, but there’s something about the feet timing that I can’t quite describe yet. It’s definitely something to do with front foot plant and the flick snap timing. I think they have to be almost simultaneous. I’d need to see videos of my +400 flicks vs the mistimed ones. The mistimed ones feel like I waited to long after the front foot planted. A well timed flick requires barely any run up and happens pretty quickly in contrast to an equally massive backhand.
And to play devil’s advocate, I found Scott Stokley’s tips just F’d up my flick more than helping it. The theory makes sense, but every time I tried thinking about the baseball idea I’d throw an annie throwler. Had to reset and relearn my technique of exploding from hip point with a low snap. The only time I use arm follow through is when I want more hyzer and less spin or sometimes for low canopies to have more nose down and less flip/lift to improve accuracy.
I think even people who doesnt like discgolf (sadly they exist) Would enjoy your videos, awesome quality, entertainment and energy 🙌🔥
That's incredibly kind. Thanks Mr X 🤘
Check out the Sexton power grip, much more comfortable and consistent than the power grip you demoed.
I've had that forehand grip since 1983. I use the split grip to adjust the angle.
Stokely's on point! But so is everyone else. A good hinge at the waist has always been good for me. It allows for more rotation. But also it helps to conceptualize the lower body and follow-through pieces. Since the hinge is kind of like "coiling", leg thrust adds power and follow through provides a necessary release for that extra power. All these tips work together.
The way I see it. If you're not hinging at the waist, you're asking your hip rotation to occur only on a horizontal plane. With a hinge, you're operating in a 360 plane. More space for rotation and torque. And anything you do at the waist, you're leveraging that into your shoulders. So follow through has to be exaggerated because you're adding more travel to hips and more so, shoulders.
And, as for the lower-body. When you hinge, you're putting more stress on your legs, because you're not "up and down". Your center of gravity has moved outward. This means that you have to be stronger in the legs throughout the motion! The back leg (refd in the video) is the one that pushes you out of the hinge, uncorks, uncoils. Add some thrust, here, and you're giving your upper body a boost. And that's why the follow thru is critical.
Thanks for the thoughtful feedback!! It really is appreciated 🤘
I think the split grip (forehand fan grip) works so well because the disc is supported a lot better and prevents off axis torque, giving the disc a much better spin.
Hadn't thought about that! Super interesting!!
More follow through is better. It helps keep momentum and also assists with consistent accuracy. Also, much easier on your joints in the long run.
- my wife, a kinesiologist
the pull/fallow through, could try full extension of your arm, like Eagle or Kooling. Like the "elbow-to-hip" motion but dont stick your elbow from your hip during the pull/fallow through. might be something to try
Thanks for the tip Jedediah!
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf for forehand long putting and approaching, i use a unique grip. Similar to a stack grip, but with all four fingers under the disc, and more finger pad on the plate rather then rim, and with a more karate chop kinda motion rather then a usual forehand. Most likely does an anhyzer angle. Overstable to stable putter. Been a game changer for me, might be something to mess around with... or make a joke skit for a video LMAO
Going to try the split grip!
I think the “explode through the back leg”advice is meant to be timed up with when you start to accelerate the disc. It amplifies the acceleration through your body, just like when you drive through the front leg on a backhand
Seemed like you were exploding through the back leg early. However, I am a humble newb simply observing and trying to offer patient feedback
Scott Stokely's tip was great!
I like the mat that your working on
Grass?
I switched to the split grip a few months back to help clean up my forehand release angle (which it did), but have found myself moving back to more of a stacked grip for full power drives, with a little twist (so the pad of my middle finger is against the rim instead of just the side, and my wrist bends naturally) and am getting a bit more distance (350ish). I do find that getting a clean flex line at 90% power is better than trying to overpower it, but that's true of backhand as well. I do feel that I need to explore "more grip".
I just marvel at the variation in forehands I see out there. Some are super compact with no run-up, no backhand wind-up or follow-through and they still outdrive me by 50-100ft. I see folks putting meat hooks on a 35 degree anhyzer with no glide, out there 350, and wonder what they could do with a less OS disc.
It's so true and a total testament to the fact that everyone's different! Do what works for you!!
If you like your elbow, follow through. Not doing so is an amazing way to develop tennis elbow
Thanks Jess! I definitely appreciate the helpful advice!
Absolutely Brendon!
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 definitely make me wanna do field work and also buy a flight towel.😂
Just the tips... Promise😂. Thanks for the tips that was very helpful. Flight towel ✅
I noticed Nate Sexton has a dimple on his disc from his thumb pressure. I thought that it would be worth a try. It added more snap, control and spin.
Great video. Personally I find that after about 320ft accuracy becomes very important and its rare that the basket is 400 ft away with no trees in the way. Basically throwing 400ft at a basket is different than field practice
Try the mcbeth grip! It's a mix of power and stack where you have your index under your middle finger. It makes the disc come out much smoother and is hard to mess up the disc if you accidently roll your wrist
I'm a forehand dominant player, I watched this whole vid, and the one thing I took away was... "I've never seen a full run up for a forehand, I have try that!" So I did! I lost some accuracy, but gained about 30ft! You should def do a vid on your run up, if you haven't!
Yeah a runup also will give you more excitement In your throw and for me it seems to keep my shoulder from dipping. Giving a nice release. The only thing he showed I dont do and never have is split grip. I'm definitely gonna try it out.
Best advice I ever got on forhands. "Why don't you try a backhand" hahaha
Try and turn your fingers into the outside rim of the disc so that the disc comes off the pad of your middle finger better. That small change has helped me throw forehands around 450 and 400 consistently
I use the split grip works super well for me
I've played 1 game so far. Yup, totally new to this. I already ordered a starter set. And just wanted to say, although I have no experience, this video was super helpful, because it gives me a lot of hints on things I can focus on to improve my (very bad) throws. Thanks!
when i grip my midrange like extra tight, it goes about 350, less grip about 300, so that was. a solid tip
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Kick or drag your rear foot behind the front foot toward left tee side to counter balance swing like bowling.
At this point, I'll pretty much try anything you say 🔥
Take your Umbros and dad socks elsewhere bud......Just kidding...Great video!!!
nah, Ryan Sheldon. Played minor league baseball forever as a pitcher and switched to disc golf, can throw 600+ and 82mph says to use over stable, throw like ever so slight anni, explode off back leg and kick it out while rotating your body and hips, flexibility in elbow and shoulder is key, and grip can play a major role, find one that feels comfortable and lets you flick your wrist and fingers. do push ups and pull ups and stretch shoulder elbow wrist and fingers like crazy, just like backhand, its a slingshot
I call the split grip, fan grip. And I use it all the time for approach shots. I love it. Never actually tried it for drives or long range.
I had a groove. It was a pure meat hook and I ended up trading it away for a substantial price cut. At the time my star destroyer was exactly the same for me. I kept the destroyer and now it is my go to for controlled distance and I wondered constantly if I made a horrible mistake. If you were getting rid of yours despite having had an ace with it then I probably didn't make a mistake.
I used my groove exclusively for shots I was afraid of losing my disc on until it finally happened for me 🥳👏
more followthrough is better. not for distance tho, but for longevity of your throwing arm. you put less wear on your throwing arm if you throw with more followthrough cause you have a longer time to decelerate your arm which puts it under less stress.
I've tried every variation of two finger forehand grip and never could get it. Always came out super wobbly and no distance or accuracy whatsoever. I was watching a pro tournament the other day and one of the players used a single finger grip and was throwing bombs. So I decided to give it a shot and unbelievably I can now throw forehands for the first time in my life. 370 average and very accurate with no wobble. It goes to show that everyone is different and there are so many ways to get a disc flying.
Have you played coal creek in Erie?
Where can I buy the trash panda merch?
When will there be a restock on the site?
Which grip were you using when you added pressure to the middle finger?
I will have to try these. I recently just started playing. I am 55 and not throwing far. My average is 165ft. I threw a 208ft the other day.
I’ve been struggling with forehand “wobbles”, which I’m sure hurt distance. Have experimented with different grips (power, stacked (pads on flight plate), stacked (pads on inside of rim), with none of them resulting in a cleaner release, but I haven’t tried the split grip yet. Will try it next time out. Thanks!!
I have the same issues, I’m a fairly new player and pretty much only throw backhand. I’m looking forward to getting out there and trying split grip though!
wobble is due to not enough spin on the disc. Practice whipping a tee towel, or swinging a badminton racquet
One this that was interesting to me is that even on your “more” follow through, it’s less that I would use for a max distance shot. If you can use the power going over your plant foot I bet you throw farther.
I would just throw stand still no run up.... also use the hip like throwing a punch or a strike
Throw the forehand like a flat stone in the water. Same feeling. And a little kik with the hip at the end. : )
Honestly, my biggest tip is to not follow the "learn to flick understable stuff first" thing. If you're just starting to try to learn a flick, trying to flick a DX Cobra is just gonna piss you off and make you not want to learn it.
Start with an overstable disc. You'll see the immediate benefit to having that shot shape, even if it's not a great throw. Then, as you get better with that, work your way into straighter discs. Then, once you're ready, try something real flippy.
Not that this pertains to you Trash Panda, but for someone wanting to learn
Your thumbnail teased my 'vulcan' grip (pinky reinforcing ring finger) but you never tested it!!
The baseball throw is exactly why I throw further forehands than backhands. I started casually playing this summer.
Super rad. Thanks Eddie!
I throw forehand with one finger... I'm tired of everyone making fun of me even though I throw further than all of my friends. I'll try some of these out. Thanks for the tip(s). 😄
One of Stokely's tips is to throw with one finger if you cannot bend your wrist so much, you have less power but more spin, and generating spin is what is important.
Testing out our "small tips" made a "big difference". 😂
I always tell my friends to turn their hand sideways so the flick motion doesn’t overturn the disc and you get a more natural, quicker snap out of your hand
I started out throwing forehand but spent so much time practicing backhands that I lost my forehand. Been trying to rebuild that since it's so important to being flexible in this game.
I mentioned it in my other video, but that's literally my exact same story.
I’m no pro, but maybe try being less up-right. Bending over more allows you to keep your arm/shoulder more upright while still keeping the disc flat. Watch how sidearm baseball pitchers throw, it’s essentially the same motion… they’re bent over to generate more power. You can’t throw a baseball very hard standing up-right with a sidearm angle. Hopefully this makes sense
And you can't get your elbow extended enough if you're bent over. Former sidearm pitcher here and you are SO correct.
You never closed the fridge and it's driving me crazy... 😆😂
Legend says it's still open.... 😂
What helped me the most was a crow hop run-up.
I tried that in the previous video!
Awesome. I definitely need to throw a baseball before I try to throw a forehand.
*or a squeaky tennis ball 😂