Great job. Very informative. The absolute BEST thing I learned from this video is that when I buy my Blackstone (within a month or so) I will use the two most popular items in my toolbox to assemble and convert to natural gas. Those two items are a credit card and a phone. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for the easy to follow demonstration! I'm converting mine to NG after having it for a year. Was a little intimidated but looks fairly straight forward.
This video was perfect. Your instructions were clearer than the instruction books. Took me a while longer because the regulator would not loosen and I was afraid I was going to bend the supply pipe, but it all came together and I am very pleased. Thanks again
This is more work than anticipated. I was hoping when removing the knobs, i would be able to to remove the orfices from the front instead of taking that heavy top off. Thanks for the video
Great video thank you. My Weber is a 1/2" natural gas line, and I didn't realize the size difference until today. So now I'm trying to figure out how to convert the 3/8" Blackstone line to 1/2". The griddle conversion was smooth sailing. I wasn't anticipating the line size difference. Always something!
The quick disconnect portion is universal, so all you need to do is stub up your 1/2" gas line and top with a 1/2" female to quick disconnect piece and you're set. The 3/8" 10' conversion hose that you'll get for your grill will plug into the quick disconnect regardless of gas pipe size coming from your house.
I have a Blackstone 36" griddle, a Weber Spirit II gas grill and a 23 tip jet burner for my 60 quart pot all converted to natural gas. Best move you can make if you have natural gas at your home. Lucky for me I didn't have to hire my gas work out because I'm a gas and steam pipe fitter. Also I have done many conversions from LP to natural and vice versa on gas fired boilers and industrial water heaters. On these outdoor home appliances it's very easy to do with the kit and some common sense. Just watch some videos such as this one and follow the instructions on the kit. A word of caution, don't over tighten the orifices. They will break. Snug is all that's necessary. I don't recommend the use of white Teflon tape on orifices. If you feel you must use something use a very small amount of an approved pipe dope being careful to not block any part of the hole in the orifice. Good luck!
Great video. Clear concise and visually perfect. I’m ordering my conversion kit now since I’ve had an external gas line for the last 40 years and never used it. Goodbye tanks👊
Nice! My grill is coming in two days. My BBQ is hooked up to natural gas, don’t want to swap them out. If anything, I would use LP for the BS and convert at a later date if i make that swap, but it seems like it’s best to do the conversion as you’re putting the BS together. Decisions, decisions. 😅
If you go from the bottom you can use the wrench in the other orientation, allowing to achieve the torque you need without using pliers. Also, brass to brass doesn't require thread tape or putty but it's a good insurance policy and peace of mind to use it.
You overlooked pipe dope for the orfice's. Must be rated for 400 degrees F or above. I wound up putting a pipe cleaner in the orfice before applying pipe dope. You can use a thin shank screwdriver to create a handle for the wrench. Had to use hematite to install the orfice's seems that the installation of the burners is not standard as my wiring was in the way. Blackstone needs to offer different lengths of hose and should consider allowing the main gas connection on the griddle to be moved to the right side. The other option would be to offer an extension with a 90 degree elbow to run the flex hose behind the grill. In my situation I need to install a quick connect to grill as my unit is on a concrete patio and am concerned that squirrels or mice may nibble on the line not to mention lawn service might damage it.
@@texastech00 Did you purchase the NG conversion kit? If not you didn't change out the Jets from factory LP (propane) to Natural Gas Jets in the kit. If you put NG rated pipe dope on the threads I would suspect that some material may have covered the orifice which would restrict gas flow. Remove the griddle top and light the burners one at a time. Rotate the burner knob and check the flame. If you have a weak flame it indicates a partial blockage. If no flame its blocked. You need to get a thin piece of solid wire to clear the hole. Worse case is to remove the jet to check if pipe dope is in the supply pipe of the valve. Hope this helps.
Great video. I did everything exactly the same as you... even over tightening one nozle. Can you please share which part you had to replace? I need to do the same thing. I should have learned from you better!
So I’m using a .75 fitting as described and what if you can’t get a conversion burner back in? I’m able to get the original back in and it’s the igniter burner that is giving me difficulty. Will this be an issue?
Overall good video and great tips. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I observed a few things and it's mostly personal opinion. I just assembled a 28" "one-man show," cook top and all. I wondered if you could use a metric socket extension for the orifice removal tool? Also, you didn't use any pipe dope for the griddle nipple/threads when threading the natural gas hose? The ignitor wires are a great tip to remember when re-installing the burners. No big deal and obviously yours worked. The adjustable pliers seemed cumbersome, and the those screws are all "baked-on" to the finish. They all pop when you loosen. Thanks again for sharing! Enjoy your Blackstone! DB
I know this is an old comment but for educational purposes you don't use pipe dope or tape on flare fittings such as these. Also these are not compression fittings, they are flare fittings. Compression fittings use a ferrell and are not approved for gas, however flare and compression fittings both are not thread sealing fittings so therefore dope is not required. Tape can actually cause a leak if used on a flare fitting if it gets between the pipe and the flare because the flare is the seal, NOT the threads. Also white teflon tape is not approved for gas anyway. You must use the yellow tape but I recommend using dope for gas on thread sealing pipe fittings NOT on flare fittings. I'm a retired gas and steam pipe fitter for well over 40 years. Hope this helps.
The Omnivore griddle top uses a newer kit 5395 with 1.55mm orifices. The older legacy griddle top uses the older kit 5249 with 2.0mm orifices. This is not a well known fact and many of the older kits are out there being sold and put into new Omnivore versions.
thanks for the instructions. Very well put together and detailed. Quick question: How did you connect the hose to the gas line? I think you mentioned a plumber did it, but wasn't sure if there is another part required to connect the female gas end & the female end of quick-connect fitting
Ged Talk the end of the hose that comes with the kit will snap into the coupling at the end of the gas line the plumber runs. You NEED to hire a certified plumber to run the gas pipe out to your grilling area.
This may sound like a stupid question, but why must you change the burners? Does natural gas burn hotter than propane? I thought maybe you would just have to change the connection, and the hose… ?
you have to change the orifices. LP has a higher pressure than natural gas, so the orifices have to have a larger hole in them. LP gas does have a higher BTU rating as well.
It is tight to come out because of the pipe sealant on the orifaces. In the conversion kit it states you must use sealant. Just food for thought...I used teflon gas tape rated for 450+ deg. as recommended in conversion instructions.
You don't really need the kit. Just get a natural gas hose and grill the nozzles out bigger. I used 1/16" but probably 3/64" or 1 mm probably would have been big enough. It saves money and only takes a few minutes.
No regulator needed. Natural gas is already regulated at the meter unless you are on a 2lb. system. If you don't know how to tell you will need a gas fitter to come out and test but the vast majority of residential homes are low pressure and regulated at the meter. Usually 5 to 7 inches water column which is 0.180456 psi or just under 3 ounces of pressure for 5 inches water column so therefore a 2lb. system is considered high pressure for gas and would need to be regulated at the appliance. In my application no regulator needed.
I know, I just want to buy a nat gas griddle (not a commercial one over $1500!) and plug it into my 1/2" QD. Why can they not make them. What's the hangup with all this propane?
Great job. Very informative. The absolute BEST thing I learned from this video is that when I buy my Blackstone (within a month or so) I will use the two most popular items in my toolbox to assemble and convert to natural gas. Those two items are a credit card and a phone. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for the easy to follow demonstration! I'm converting mine to NG after having it for a year. Was a little intimidated but looks fairly straight forward.
This video was perfect. Your instructions were clearer than the instruction books. Took me a while longer because the regulator would not loosen and I was afraid I was going to bend the supply pipe, but it all came together and I am very pleased. Thanks again
This is more work than anticipated. I was hoping when removing the knobs, i would be able to to remove the orfices from the front instead of taking that heavy top off.
Thanks for the video
Great video thank you. My Weber is a 1/2" natural gas line, and I didn't realize the size difference until today. So now I'm trying to figure out how to convert the 3/8" Blackstone line to 1/2". The griddle conversion was smooth sailing. I wasn't anticipating the line size difference. Always something!
I am going to put in a “y” connection. One 1/2” for my weber and the other side will be 3/8” for the blacksrone.
The quick disconnect portion is universal, so all you need to do is stub up your 1/2" gas line and top with a 1/2" female to quick disconnect piece and you're set. The 3/8" 10' conversion hose that you'll get for your grill will plug into the quick disconnect regardless of gas pipe size coming from your house.
Nicely done, Bill! I just finished putting mine together & I followed your lead, Sir! 😉
just a question, could you have used a socket with an extension to replace the orifice?
I have a Blackstone 36" griddle, a Weber Spirit II gas grill and a 23 tip jet burner for my 60 quart pot all converted to natural gas. Best move you can make if you have natural gas at your home. Lucky for me I didn't have to hire my gas work out because I'm a gas and steam pipe fitter. Also I have done many conversions from LP to natural and vice versa on gas fired boilers and industrial water heaters. On these outdoor home appliances it's very easy to do with the kit and some common sense. Just watch some videos such as this one and follow the instructions on the kit. A word of caution, don't over tighten the orifices. They will break. Snug is all that's necessary. I don't recommend the use of white Teflon tape on orifices. If you feel you must use something use a very small amount of an approved pipe dope being careful to not block any part of the hole in the orifice. Good luck!
Thank you. Good advice. Much appreciated.
The natural gasshole haha 😄
Great video. I enjoyed it
Great video. Clear concise and visually perfect. I’m ordering my conversion kit now since I’ve had an external gas line for the last 40 years and never used it. Goodbye tanks👊
Nice! My grill is coming in two days. My BBQ is hooked up to natural gas, don’t want to swap them out. If anything, I would use LP for the BS and convert at a later date if i make that swap, but it seems like it’s best to do the conversion as you’re putting the BS together. Decisions, decisions. 😅
Don’t forget gas specific plumbers tape to seal the threads. Also consider a lithium battery to prevent corrosion. Great vid.
One of the best how-to videos I’ve seen on TH-cam. Thanks!
If you go from the bottom you can use the wrench in the other orientation, allowing to achieve the torque you need without using pliers. Also, brass to brass doesn't require thread tape or putty but it's a good insurance policy and peace of mind to use it.
Good job very interesting building a outdoor kitchen I want to make it a drop in
You overlooked pipe dope for the orfice's. Must be rated for 400 degrees F or above. I wound up putting a pipe cleaner in the orfice before applying pipe dope.
You can use a thin shank screwdriver to create a handle for the wrench.
Had to use hematite to install the orfice's seems that the installation of the burners is not standard as my wiring was in the way.
Blackstone needs to offer different lengths of hose and should consider allowing the main gas connection on the griddle to be moved to the right side.
The other option would be to offer an extension with a 90 degree elbow to run the flex hose behind the grill.
In my situation I need to install a quick connect to grill as my unit is on a concrete patio and am concerned that squirrels or mice may nibble on the line not to mention lawn service might damage it.
yep, used Permatex Hi temp, but the bolt heads sheared off:( 2 of 4. one on the removal, one on the conversion. They are very delicate.
It doesnt get that hot where the orifice is.
@@texastech00 Did you purchase the NG conversion kit? If not you didn't change out the Jets from factory LP (propane) to Natural Gas Jets in the kit.
If you put NG rated pipe dope on the threads I would suspect that some material may have covered the orifice which would restrict gas flow.
Remove the griddle top and light the burners one at a time. Rotate the burner knob and check the flame. If you have a weak flame it indicates a partial blockage. If no flame its blocked.
You need to get a thin piece of solid wire to clear the hole.
Worse case is to remove the jet to check if pipe dope is in the supply pipe of the valve.
Hope this helps.
Great video. I did everything exactly the same as you... even over tightening one nozle. Can you please share which part you had to replace? I need to do the same thing. I should have learned from you better!
Thank you very much Bill. Do you know if this conversion kit will fit on 22" Blackstone griddle. thank You.
I am considering a 36" Blacksone. This unit comes with a hood. Does the hood need to be removed to convfert to natural gas?
So I’m using a .75 fitting as described and what if you can’t get a conversion burner back in? I’m able to get the original back in and it’s the igniter burner that is giving me difficulty. Will this be an issue?
What orifice do you use for the 28”?? Model 2287
Overall good video and great tips. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I observed a few things and it's mostly personal opinion. I just assembled a 28" "one-man show," cook top and all.
I wondered if you could use a metric socket extension for the orifice removal tool?
Also, you didn't use any pipe dope for the griddle nipple/threads when threading the natural gas hose?
The ignitor wires are a great tip to remember when re-installing the burners.
No big deal and obviously yours worked.
The adjustable pliers seemed cumbersome, and the those screws are all "baked-on" to the finish. They all pop when you loosen.
Thanks again for sharing! Enjoy your Blackstone!
DB
No need for pipe dope for compression fittings if gas leaks that means you didn't thread it right or tighten enough
I know this is an old comment but for educational purposes you don't use pipe dope or tape on flare fittings such as these. Also these are not compression fittings, they are flare fittings. Compression fittings use a ferrell and are not approved for gas, however flare and compression fittings both are not thread sealing fittings so therefore dope is not required. Tape can actually cause a leak if used on a flare fitting if it gets between the pipe and the flare because the flare is the seal, NOT the threads. Also white teflon tape is not approved for gas anyway. You must use the yellow tape but I recommend using dope for gas on thread sealing pipe fittings NOT on flare fittings. I'm a retired gas and steam pipe fitter for well over 40 years. Hope this helps.
You need to do some corrosion control performed on that gas line. The rust is going to damage the gas line.
Thank you for this video, so helpful
You’re welcome.
The Omnivore griddle top uses a newer kit 5395 with 1.55mm orifices. The older legacy griddle top uses the older kit 5249 with 2.0mm orifices. This is not a well known fact and many of the older kits are out there being sold and put into new Omnivore versions.
Righty righty lefty loose ooops: 2 of 4 conversion boltsM6x1.0mm sheared off. How can I get the broken parts out of the socket?
I did this conversion kit, but when I open the gas valve there is some gas going out thru the burners. Any idea why?
Great video. Thanks I have a natural line and considering this kit.
Did you have to put a appliance regulator for it? If so what type. And do you have a 2 pound gas system?
This my question.
Awesome Video. Going to work on the conversion now.
thanks for the instructions. Very well put together and detailed. Quick question: How did you connect the hose to the gas line? I think you mentioned a plumber did it, but wasn't sure if there is another part required to connect the female gas end & the female end of quick-connect fitting
Ged Talk the end of the hose that comes with the kit will snap into the coupling at the end of the gas line the plumber runs. You NEED to hire a certified plumber to run the gas pipe out to your grilling area.
No regular needed?
Dumb question, but is there not regulator for natural gas or is it controlled elsewhere?
It's regulated where it comes into your house from the utility company.
This may sound like a stupid question, but why must you change the burners? Does natural gas burn hotter than propane? I thought maybe you would just have to change the connection, and the hose… ?
you have to change the orifices. LP has a higher pressure than natural gas, so the orifices have to have a larger hole in them. LP gas does have a higher BTU rating as well.
Did you use a gas regulator
Billy! Thanks for the video. If I have the same exact black stone is it safe to say it’ll be the .75 conversion pieces as well?
For natural gas, yes.
Thanks. This really helped.
Great job 🎉
Could have used a screw driver instead of the channel locks. Than kyou for this! Much help!!
Is this the grill available at Walmart Model # 2177 or the other Model # 2259?
Its model #2177. You need to purchase the Natural Gas kit for it separately.
which model is this blackstone?
Great video, thank you
Why does it burn so hot after converting? The flame seems a lot more powerful
really needs to add a natural gas regulator to it.
You don't need any gas pipe sealant on the 4 fixtures?
No. The originals that I pulled out didn’t have any sealant in them. The instructions didn’t call for any either.
It is tight to come out because of the pipe sealant on the orifaces. In the conversion kit it states you must use sealant. Just food for thought...I used teflon gas tape rated for 450+ deg. as recommended in conversion instructions.
You don't really need the kit. Just get a natural gas hose and grill the nozzles out bigger. I used 1/16" but probably 3/64" or 1 mm probably would have been big enough. It saves money and only takes a few minutes.
Do you need to put something on the threads of new gas orifices
I did not as the instructions didn’t call for it. The burners work fine.
Thank You!!!!
use the other side of the tool for the torque
Can the 28 inch be converted to natural gas also ?
I see why not. Should be the same connections. Just less burners.
So I don't need a regulator like when I use propane?
No regulator needed. Natural gas is already regulated at the meter unless you are on a 2lb. system. If you don't know how to tell you will need a gas fitter to come out and test but the vast majority of residential homes are low pressure and regulated at the meter. Usually 5 to 7 inches water column which is 0.180456 psi or just under 3 ounces of pressure for 5 inches water column so therefore a 2lb. system is considered high pressure for gas and would need to be regulated at the appliance. In my application no regulator needed.
BillyRohrer can you upload a video please
I tightened so hard the natural has orifice broke..... how do you do it where it’s enough, but now too much.
As tight as you can without a wrench?
I did too.. don't feel bad. I had to get an Ez-Out.
@@darrenhall7990 what size ez out did you use? I just broke mine too. Felt like it broke so easy.
@@x_king_ragnar_x4977 i had an EZ out kit. Just get one that fits snug by hand, then it'll back out easy. Wish I remembered.
You really don't need to get out of control with force, there is only a few ounces of gas pressure!!
Don't forget thread dope on new orifices
It’s so annoying the new ones you can’t convert to natural gas because of the Omni griddle
I just returned an Omni for this very reason. You can still buy the model in this video, which I did.
Why doesn’t Blackstone just make a natural gas version of their griddle??
I know, I just want to buy a nat gas griddle (not a commercial one over $1500!) and plug it into my 1/2" QD. Why can they not make them. What's the hangup with all this propane?
Can't you just drill the LP orifices bigger?
yes
Always use teflon....lol
Even if it doesn't call for it, teflon will help seal the threads from gas leaks
This
Funny how the ones the you take out doesn’t have Teflon tape. All the expert are here I see!
Billy rohrer upload a video
You would call a gas fitter.....not a plumber, dear God!!
You call a plumber. I know, that’s who did mine. A gas fitter (😂) maybe in your country. Dear god.
A master plumber can work with black pipe. Plumbing and nat gas are not entirely dissimilar.