Just a tip from an automotive background.If your worried about dropping small pieces from a tool in an area you can't see or get your hands in.Like those orifices,you can put some grease or vaseline on the tool and it will let the small piece stick to it.I usually do it when working with small nuts or screws.
Hi deegan727, we will certainly give that a try the next time we are working in a tight space. Sound like it would help with drilling self piercing screws into duct work. Thanks for the tip!
Hi Admanda, not all grills can be converted from propane to natural gas, so be sure to get one that will. Char Broil has a sticker that says duel fuel. Let us know how your conversion goes, good luck!
One important thing is missing here. Removing LP orifice ONLY does not apply to every burner. You need to REPLACE the LP orifice with NG orifice if there is no built-in NG orifice behind LP orifice. Or explosion will happen. Even one grill can have some burners with built-in NG orifices but other burners without built-in orifice. Check operation manual for the safety.
Good point. Charbroil had the natural gas orifice built in so that step wasn’t necessary in this specific conversion. Converting other bbq’s will need to install the proper natural gas orifice.
This was hugely helpful. I have the same model Char Broil grill and we just moved to a house that already has a natural gas connection outside. This video had way more detail than the one Char Broil has on their website and I now feel very confident that we can easily convert our grill to work with that very convenient gas line that we now have. Thank you so much!
+E. John Benson Hi E. John Benson, okay, that is a good suggestion. We would test for gas leaks by putting a mixture of dish soap and water on the connections, turn on the gas and look for bubbling. If no bubbles, all is well. We will make a video on that in the future. Thanks for the comment!
Thank you so much for your video. If it wasn't for you mentioning that exact bit size I would have gone out and bought the kit just for the right tool. Once I had the right bit it was just a breeze to remove the orifice. Thanks again.
Great video, thanks for taking the time to show me how to do it right. The instructions made it seem more complicated than it was. After watching your video it was easy peasy.
Had a chuckle when you explained the reasons for converting from propane to natural gas... Taste and convenience...Same reasons given back in day about switching from charcoal to propane. I wonder if same reasons for switching were given by cro-magnon man .... "No like cooking Mastodon over volcano.. bad taste...long walk to and from volcano ... better to use wood fire in cave." Seriously ... great video. Thanks for sharing. Best to you and yours.
We've had to run a generator off our natural gas line before and thankfully the line had been run many years ago. It wasn't in the most ideal place since it was at the back door entrance but the entrance we use. We made due but I would love to have another one ran to the 4th door and current patio area
Hey Pamela, You can extend or add to an existing natural gas set-up. Check out this video ( about the 7:40 min into it ) where you can see a whole manifold we had added that allowed this house the outdoor grill, ventless fireplace and new gas range. th-cam.com/video/kE7IoGiA1Ck/w-d-xo.html It is worth the expense in the long run. Thx for watching!
Nice video to help me understand the process. I wanted to view before I purchased any parts so I know I am getting the correct fittings and all pieces i will need. Really good to know I have to pull those little restrictor fittings out to go from propane to gas. Thanks
I'm assuming the char broil comes with an inner orifice that's already the correct size for NG, so when you take the LP orifice off, you already limited by the NG one internally somewhere. I think if I did this with my Weber (or most people for that matter), I'd get a pretty scary flame. Useful vid none the less, thanks.
Hi D Pavlovic, yes, certain Char Broil grills have been designed for conversion from propane to natural gas. Char Broil puts a sticker right on their grill that indicates it works for dual fuel. Not all grills can be converted. Thanks for your comments.
Need to reduce combustion air inlet on the natural gas, notice the limiter plates (behind knobs) have a small round hole vs the larger OVAL air source hole for LP.
Excellent video. Char Broil has one also. But this is more complete. The Char Broil video does not show converting the side burner. This is a noticeable problem. So good job guys.
Great video! Thank you! I’m building a new house with natural gas line to the deck specifically for my grill. I’d rather not buy a brand new grill when mine now is perfectly fine. I think this will help me a ton!
Hi Burhan, yes, the Canadian geese are awesome, except perhaps when they honk in the morning! Thanks for your comment and we hope you have good luck with your grill conversion!
Great info! The prior owners of my house had a natural gas grill, so the line on the deck has been mocking my propane grill for some time now. ;) I picked up a charbroil commercial series grill at an estate sale the other day with the plan to convert it to natural gas. So far I'm impressed with the quality of that grill, lifting the lid of that thing is a workout. I'm thinking it will stop bullets!
@@Housebarons for my grill, the answer was no However, i found more information that lead me down the right path. In the end i used the gas orpheus from my old grill, and a natural gas line bought off of amazon. I slowly opened up the "jets" (as i see them) until i was happy with the burn. I have had the grill running off of natural gas for about a month now, using it nearly daily. I'm very happy with my conversion!
I Bought my Home in 23 ....and with it came a ...HEAVY DUTY BUILT ....ARKLA Natural Gas Grill ....I Have renovated the Grill Body ... replaced the old Grates with new porcelain grating ...and Now I'm Ready to replace the total burner system with new Natural Gas components ....but Very little luck locating... proper components ....So ....HERE I AM ... 😊👍🙏
Very Good My Man, now I know what it all about to convert the stove into natural gas. All about allow more gas to mix with air inorder to give effective and efficient burn. Otherwise, it may not glow enough due to lack of Oxygene. I had blackening on my kitchen walls with my old cooker, that must’ve been the Orifices or Air blockages, what is regarded as ‘Air FueL Mixture ratio’ in Road going vehicles. Anyway all understood.! Thanks.!!!
I own a Weber Genesis Gold propane grill and I'm hoping that a conversion kit is available. Until I watched this video I wasn't aware that there was a difference in the orifice size between propane and natural gas. If anyone reading this has converted their Weber gas grill from propane to natural gas please feel free to comment. Thank you for this video.
Hi dtowndano, we found this link with info about converting your Weber Genesis grill to propane. You could also call Weber technical support to see if you can order a conversion kit from them. Hope this helps, good luck! www.grill-repair.com/weber315orifice.html
@@Housebarons Thank you. I actually did go to the website using the link you provided and I ended up purchasing both orifices and a regulator they indicated would work for me Weber Grill. Weber doesn't offer a conversion kit and and states they don't recommend converting their LP grills to natural gas. Of course they do sell NG grills for $750-$900. I'll try my luck with the conversion process that might cost around $100 total. I own a Weber Genesis Gold B side burner control grill.
Thank you soo much I really appreciate your video. Simple straight to the point and extra waste of video to make it longer than needed.!! You guys rock! Thank you
Hey Whiskey.., All I know is that on dual fuel, when you remove the propane orifice, the remaining tube is sized correctly for natural gas. I don’t know what the exact tube dimension is for nat gas - just that it was engineered to be the correct size. If you could find the correct dimension, then you could measure yours and see if it is correct. Hope that helps.
Not all bbq’s can be so easily converted. Charbroil has made some of their products convertible but even some of Charbroil bbq’s are not ready-made for this easy conversion. Be careful.
Great video just had one question I noticed you did not replace the orifice with a natural gas one, is that mandatory? I have a Evolution 5-Burner Grill and I wanted to know if I need to replace the orifice with natural gas ones or can take out the existing propane ones and leave it as is?
Hi Moss Support, for our Char-Broil grill we just had to remove the propane orifices and did not have to install any new ones. However, this particular grill is specifically designed to be able to convert from propane to natural gas. So you will have to call your grill manufacturer to find that answer. Thanks for your question and good luck with your conversion!
My grill is meant to be able to be converted to natural gas, however, the model of the conversion kit suggested is not for sale anywhere. How much of a difference is there between conversion kits? Excellent video, by the way.
Hey Michelle, Thanks. Maybe check at one of the big box stores for a universal conversion kit. I’d guess the universal kit should have the necessary supplies. Hope it works out for you. Thx for watching.
So you aren't replacing those orifice pieces you are removing? I want to convert a an older grill I just got from a neighbor, and they don't make the "conversion kit" for it, and everything else I've read online says to replace that piece with one that works with NG. Thank you for the video!
Hi Kenny, the Char Broil engineers had this specific model set up for the conversion. So all we had to do was remove the old orifices and the openings were then correct for NG. This won't work with all grills because the openings could be the wrong size. So you will need to find the correct size to convert your grill. Good luck!
Once the grill is converted, can it still use propane? Or would I have to reverse the conversion process? Wondering as I would like to hook it up to the gas line at my home, but I also use the bbq for some business stuff in the summer where it would need to be connected to propane again... Thanks in advance!
Hey shea, Yes. You’d have to switch it back. And make sure the manufacturer says it dual fuel and can be converted. Not all grills are. Thx for watching!
Does anyone know how much it costs to have someone (the gas company? plumber?) run a gas line to the outside patio or deck? Had no idea natural gas grills existed (yes, been living in a cave), hence I inadvertently bought one at a garage sale, thinking it was propane. It is a giant rolling paper weight until I either get a gas line installed, or convert it to propane. Seems like it would be a massive advantage never to have to heft propane tanks around ever again, but if this is gonna cost somewhere in the thousands, think I'll try converting it.
Maybe I missed something. Do you take the propane oriface out and replace it with a natural gas oriface, or do you take the propane oriface out and reassemble the pipe, and that's it?
Just take out original orifice. Only intended to work on DUEL FUEL grills. Duel fuel means the remaining hole after the propane nozzle is removed is the exact size for nat. gas. Thx for watching!
I believe the extra orifice that came with the kit goes on the side burner… or you could just drill out the original to 1/64… just a bit larger for natural gas to flow….
I guess it was not necessary to dope the final threaded connection to the grill?? Why not?? I need to make that connection for a client tomorrow and was hoping to learn if/why that was needed or not. Thanks
Hey Wallace, I do not remember if that was a flared fitting or not. If it’s flared, that’s a tight seal. If it is normal thread, pipe dope or gas tape is a good idea. Thx for watching!
The taste of propane is definitely a good reason to convert from propane to natural gas. Another reason for converting is safety. Propane is extremely explosive and while there are plenty of safety measures built into consumer propane products it’s something we mustn’t get too casual about. Avoiding it in the first place is an easy way to have peace of mind.
im having an issue with my blaze natural gas grill. i have cleaned out all the burners n replaced the regulator. my next step i thought was to replace the orafices, but i see in your video "converting a propane to gas" that you have removed all the orafices , should i do that instead of replacing them
Hey Barbara, Our specific grill is designated "Dual Fuel". So from the factory it comes ready for both fuels - depending on whether the orifices are in or out. A typical grill is not designed for that conversion conversion. As for removing your orifices, maybe give the manufacturer a call and clarify with them?? Thx for watching!
So when you took the orifice out! Did you have to replace it with a NG orifice or leave it ? Cause I saw you take the propane orifice out and that was it, or did you skip that whole process of inserting the new Orifice ?
Hey Lee, It’s made at factory to be “ dual fuel”. Nothing else was needed after removal - by their design. Not all grills are like this. Thx for watching!
Hi Michael, we just took the old orifices out and did not replace them with any new orifices. That is how the conversion works with this grill. Thanks for the question and good luck if you decide to convert your grill!
I contacted the store I bought my convertible grill, they said they are not allowed to sell me a conversion kit! I was so pissed off! So I will have to convert it myself!
Hi Mesedrew, we purchased our Char-Broil natural gas conversion kit from Lowe's. I just checked and they cost about $60. Good luck with your conversion and happy grilling!
You forgot something very important, you need to check for any gas leaks I usually grab a water soapy sponge and put it where you make all the connections and look for any bubbles if its a bubbles that means you have a gas leak, it’s just my personal opinion and thanks for sharing a very good video!
Hi Jose, yes, definitely check for leaks! We have other videos where we show the soapy leak check to make sure the gas line is secure. This video shows that exact procedure at the 7:54 mark: How to Install a Ventless Natural Gas Fireplace th-cam.com/video/kE7IoGiA1Ck/w-d-xo.html Thanks for your comments!
@@Housebarons hi you doing, now what about if you want to convert from natural gas to propane, this is a great video but I have a griddle, it come for natural gas and I need to convert to propane
Hi Chanaka, it is best to check your manual or check with your grill manufacturer to make sure propane to natural gas is okay for your particular grill. For our Char Broil grill, we only had to remove the orifices. There were no new orifices that needed to be installed. Good luck!
Hi Mashwe, sorry, we did this video on Char Broil Grills because they are specifically designed to make the conversion. Perhaps you can call the technical support of the Gyro/Schwarma grill to see if this is possible. The conversion doesn't work for all units. Good luck!
Hi Nick, I don't recall. It has been a while. You make a great point. When working with gas it is always wise to check for leaks. That can easily be done by applying soapy water around the connections and seeing if there is any bubbling. Thanks for the comment!
Hey Muhanad, IF iF IF you have a grill which is designated “ dual fuel “ on it, that means your grill was designed to have the right size holes if you remove the propane orifices. Only some grills are built this way. Thx for watching!
Hey Hoang, You can only do this if the grill has a "dual fuel " logo - if so that means taking out the propane orifice leaves the correct size for nat gas - designed that way from the factory. Thx for watching!
I want to convert a outdoor propane fire pit to natural gas , do I just take out the propane orifices ,or do I need to replace it with a N gas orifices ?
Hey Tom, Not sure about that idea. Our grill was DESIGNED from the factory as dual fuel. That’s why all we had to of was remove the orifices. Places do sell natural gas burners - maybe that’s a better way to go. Thx for watching.
Hi R S, that is unfortunate news. People must have been doing something wrong with the conversion process. Maybe you could call the manufacturer. Even though they don't sell them anymore, perhaps they will tell you where you can purchase one. Good luck!
Hey Andrew, It’s best to call your local building Dept for clarity as area requirements differ. Common drip legs and sediment traps can be found by meters, furnaces, & water-heaters. . Our area doesn’t require any for outdoor grills. Thx for the question and for watching
Hey Paolo, Because our grill is made at the factory as a “dual fuel” grill, once we take out the old propane nozzles, the orifice that is left is exactly the right size for natural gas. That is what duel fuel means. So no new nozzles needed to be added . Thx for watching!
Hi Ken, according to Char-broil the answer is no. Here is what they have to say: Make sure your grill is designed for dual fuel and able to run off of natural gas. Not every propane grill can use natural gas, so be sure to consult your owner's manual. Buy a conversion kit. A conversion kit enables you to turn a propane gas grill into a natural gas grill. Thanks for your question, good luck with your conversion!
Hey Jacques, We always say - ONLY IF your particular grill was designed to be “dual fuel”. That means, at the factory the orifices were sized correctly to accomplish this. The grill would have “ dual fuel “ stamped on it somewhere. Thx for watching!
Hey Ellenor, I would suspect an out of control fire might result. That’s why we stick to the manufacturers instructions. Better safe than sorry. Thx for watching.
I have a Kitcheaid 740-0780 bought conversion kit to go from LP to NG. I called customer service and they told me i can remove the orifices (i have low flames) and no need to replace them with bigger holes. just reconnect. is this true ?
Hey Chris, I can’t speak for kitchen aid, but you described the process we did w/ our dual fuel Charbroil. Removing the smaller LP orifices leaves a perfectly sized larger Nat Gas opening. Sounds familiar. Thx for watching!
Hi, I converted mine and now it's burning way too hot. Even setting the burner on the lowest setting it's reaching temps of over 550 so I put the little restrictor thing back on and now it's not getting hotter than 300. How can I fix this?
If you have a drill, bits and proper thread tap for the orifice threads, a vise or vise grips and a piece of scrap metal ... and are a patient handyperson try this... drill proper hole in metal to tap proper threads for propane orifices. Thread one orifice into the newly tapped hole. Determine the size of the orifice and take a drill bit ever slightly larger than the exisiting hole in the orifice. Repeat drilling out process for all orifices . Reinstall modified orifices into grill. Test run grill to see if temp is within your prefered range. If not hot enough repeat drilling process with next slightly larger bit on all orifices. Remember, you cannot undrill a hole.... Use drill bits that have the smallest diameter difference as you use them to enlarge the orifice holes. A set of "letter size"drill bits for drilling metal would be the best choice for this task. Buying the bits as a set and one proper thread tap would be cheaper than the propane to natural gas conversion kit. The bits can be used for other projects... hope this helps
@@Housebarons Thanks for the reply. Char-Broil wants to sell me a new manifold for $71 + shipping instead of 5 X $3 orifices. They won't even divulge the orifice size: "we don't have that information". Good thing I don't give up easily. Ha ha!
Hey Egeo, Not all allow it. If you want to be sure, call your grill manufacturer and they will be able to guide you. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Hi Tim, yes with propane I do get a strange taste, could just be me, but anyway it is great to have an unlimited supply of natural gas and not have to fool with the propane tanks.
Your links to amazon don't work anymore. But great video thanks! I was watching to see if there is some kind of natural gas regulator, but it doesn't look like it. Just a hose. So simple.
Hey Justen, Thx for taking time to inform us about the amazon links. Looks like some products are no longer available or long delayed due to coved issues. Thx also for watching!
Hey Super..., It depends on your local code and regulations - just check with your local building department. We did not need one for outside. Thx for watching!
Just a tip from an automotive background.If your worried about dropping small pieces from a tool in an area you can't see or get your hands in.Like those orifices,you can put some grease or vaseline on the tool and it will let the small piece stick to it.I usually do it when working with small nuts or screws.
Hi deegan727, we will certainly give that a try the next time we are working in a tight space. Sound like it would help with drilling self piercing screws into duct work. Thanks for the tip!
Yes that works. Maybe also if it’s a slopping fit a piece of masking tape or electrical tape across socket to tighten socket fit to nut.
And call it a ratchet not a socket wrench lol
Hello very helpful video. I see that you took out the propane orifice but never installed the natural gas one. Do we need them or no
Thank you. The house I’m buying has the line already built in in my back patio and now I’m a buy a gas grill and do this. Thank you so much again.
Hi Admanda, not all grills can be converted from propane to natural gas, so be sure to get one that will. Char Broil has a sticker that says duel fuel. Let us know how your conversion goes, good luck!
One important thing is missing here. Removing LP orifice ONLY does not apply to every burner. You need to REPLACE the LP orifice with NG orifice if there is no built-in NG orifice behind LP orifice. Or explosion will happen. Even one grill can have some burners with built-in NG orifices but other burners without built-in orifice. Check operation manual for the safety.
Good point. Charbroil had the natural gas orifice built in so that step wasn’t necessary in this specific conversion. Converting other bbq’s will need to install the proper natural gas orifice.
Whats the difference between the two?
LP gas tank has much higher pressure than NG gas in the pipe, thus requests smaller orifice, or explosion.
This was hugely helpful. I have the same model Char Broil grill and we just moved to a house that already has a natural gas connection outside. This video had way more detail than the one Char Broil has on their website and I now feel very confident that we can easily convert our grill to work with that very convenient gas line that we now have. Thank you so much!
You are smarter then every single person I have met that works at Lowe’s or Home Depot. Great vid!
Hi Rob, LOL, thanks, good luck if you decide to convert your grill!
Great video! One suggestion would also to be show people how to look for leaks prior to first use.
+E. John Benson Hi E. John Benson, okay, that is a good suggestion. We would test for gas leaks by putting a mixture of dish soap and water on the connections, turn on the gas and look for bubbling. If no bubbles, all is well. We will make a video on that in the future. Thanks for the comment!
@@Housebarons at 16:02 you can see the gas poof out of the line you didn't test for leaks on... yikes.
@@keithwall1719 definitely a good way to blow up the house.
Thank you so much for your video. If it wasn't for you mentioning that exact bit size I would have gone out and bought the kit just for the right tool. Once I had the right bit it was just a breeze to remove the orifice. Thanks again.
Hi Safa, nice! Glad that worked out for you. Thanks so much for your comment!
Great video, thanks for taking the time to show me how to do it right. The instructions made it seem more complicated than it was. After watching your video it was easy peasy.
Hey Russell,
Awesome, Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons I always thought you could just hook up a line to the house to eliminate the propane tank being that simple
one of the best instruction videos, please keep it coming
Thanks, will do!
Had a chuckle when you explained the reasons for converting from propane to natural gas... Taste and convenience...Same reasons given back in day about switching from charcoal to propane. I wonder if same reasons for switching were given by cro-magnon man .... "No like cooking Mastodon over volcano.. bad taste...long walk to and from volcano ... better to use wood fire in cave." Seriously ... great video. Thanks for sharing. Best to you and yours.
Hey Ray,
I guess it all comes down to perspective! Thx for the comment and pointing that out.
With all due respect, not all volcanos are created equal.
Taste the meat, not the heat.
We've had to run a generator off our natural gas line before and thankfully the line had been run many years ago. It wasn't in the most ideal place since it was at the back door entrance but the entrance we use. We made due but I would love to have another one ran to the 4th door and current patio area
Hey Pamela,
You can extend or add to an existing natural gas set-up. Check out this video ( about the 7:40 min into it ) where you can see a whole manifold we had added that allowed this house the outdoor grill, ventless fireplace and new gas range. th-cam.com/video/kE7IoGiA1Ck/w-d-xo.html
It is worth the expense in the long run.
Thx for watching!
Nice video to help me understand the process. I wanted to view before I purchased any parts so I know I am getting the correct fittings and all pieces i will need. Really good to know I have to pull those little restrictor fittings out to go from propane to gas. Thanks
I'm assuming the char broil comes with an inner orifice that's already the correct size for NG, so when you take the LP orifice off, you already limited by the NG one internally somewhere. I think if I did this with my Weber (or most people for that matter), I'd get a pretty scary flame. Useful vid none the less, thanks.
Hi D Pavlovic, yes, certain Char Broil grills have been designed for conversion from propane to natural gas. Char Broil puts a sticker right on their grill that indicates it works for dual fuel. Not all grills can be converted. Thanks for your comments.
I like your theory. That would make the orifice in the kit a spare. The claim that it's the same as the ones being removed makes no sense.
Need to reduce combustion air inlet on the natural gas, notice the limiter plates (behind knobs) have a small round hole vs the larger OVAL air source hole for LP.
Excellent video. Char Broil has one also. But this is more complete. The Char Broil video does not show converting the side burner. This is a noticeable problem. So good job guys.
Hi Robert, we really like this Char Broil grill. Hopefully you will too if you decide to get one. Thanks for your comment!
Great video! Thank you!
I’m building a new house with natural gas line to the deck specifically for my grill. I’d rather not buy a brand new grill when mine now is perfectly fine. I think this will help me a ton!
Hey Zach,
Good job and good luck!
Very useful! Thank you. Also loved the Canada geese honks in the background!
Hi Burhan, yes, the Canadian geese are awesome, except perhaps when they honk in the morning! Thanks for your comment and we hope you have good luck with your grill conversion!
I thought Canada geese make more of a Honk-Eh sound.
Great info!
The prior owners of my house had a natural gas grill, so the line on the deck has been mocking my propane grill for some time now. ;)
I picked up a charbroil commercial series grill at an estate sale the other day with the plan to convert it to natural gas.
So far I'm impressed with the quality of that grill, lifting the lid of that thing is a workout.
I'm thinking it will stop bullets!
Hi Chris, not every grill can be converted to natural gas, so be sure to check with the manufacturer to see if that is an option. Good luck!
@@Housebarons for my grill, the answer was no
However, i found more information that lead me down the right path.
In the end i used the gas orpheus from my old grill, and a natural gas line bought off of amazon.
I slowly opened up the "jets" (as i see them) until i was happy with the burn.
I have had the grill running off of natural gas for about a month now, using it nearly daily.
I'm very happy with my conversion!
@@justfishing6067 Wow! Fantastic and congratulations, happy grilling 😀
I Bought my Home in 23 ....and with it came a ...HEAVY DUTY BUILT ....ARKLA Natural Gas Grill ....I Have renovated the Grill Body ... replaced the old Grates with new porcelain grating ...and Now I'm Ready to replace the total burner system with new Natural Gas components ....but Very little luck locating... proper components ....So ....HERE I AM ... 😊👍🙏
Very Good My Man, now I know what it all about to convert the stove into natural gas. All about allow more gas to mix with air inorder to give effective and efficient burn. Otherwise, it may not glow enough due to lack of Oxygene. I had blackening on my kitchen walls with my old cooker, that must’ve been the Orifices or Air blockages, what is regarded as ‘Air FueL Mixture ratio’ in Road going vehicles.
Anyway all understood.!
Thanks.!!!
Extremely clear and detailed step-by-step instructions.
Many thanks.
Hey Gennady Gerun,
Thanks for your kind comment and feedback. Great to have viewer input!
how so?? it didnt show him putting orifices back in or the difference in hole size!!!!!
Good job
Hey Eric,
Thx for watching!
I see where you took the old orifices out but did not see how you put the new ones in.
Good your idea, Thank for share ..👍🎬💪🏼👍🏆😋 good food and safety
Hey Thayer...,
Thx for wanting!
Nice tutorial. Get a spray can and paint those black iron fittings; those rust quick. Your plumber should have used galvanized fittings for outdoors.
Hi Nelson, will do, thanks for pointing that out!
I own a Weber Genesis Gold propane grill and I'm hoping that a conversion kit is available. Until I watched this video I wasn't aware that there was a difference in the orifice size between propane and natural gas. If anyone reading this has converted their Weber gas grill from propane to natural gas please feel free to comment. Thank you for this video.
Hi dtowndano, we found this link with info about converting your Weber Genesis grill to propane. You could also call Weber technical support to see if you can order a conversion kit from them.
Hope this helps, good luck!
www.grill-repair.com/weber315orifice.html
@@Housebarons Thank you. I actually did go to the website using the link you provided and I ended up purchasing both orifices and a regulator they indicated would work for me Weber Grill. Weber doesn't offer a conversion kit and and states they don't recommend converting their LP grills to natural gas. Of course they do sell NG grills for $750-$900.
I'll try my luck with the conversion process that might cost around $100 total. I own a Weber Genesis Gold B side burner control grill.
Thank you soo much I really appreciate your video. Simple straight to the point and extra waste of video to make it longer than needed.!! You guys rock! Thank you
Hey Wolfmanj3,
Thank you - and thx for watching!
Very helpful and informative. I don't foresee having any problems converting a grill.
I did not honestly think it was this easy, I was 🤏 close to buying a natural gas bbq….thank you greatly appreciated
Hey Whiskey,
Just make sure you get a DUAL fuel grill. That makes it work easy!
Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons I have just a plane Jane propane it seems but it has the same set up as in the video?
Hey Whiskey..,
All I know is that on dual fuel, when you remove the propane orifice, the remaining tube is sized correctly for natural gas. I don’t know what the exact tube dimension is for nat gas - just that it was engineered to be the correct size. If you could find the correct dimension, then you could measure yours and see if it is correct.
Hope that helps.
Not all bbq’s can be so easily converted. Charbroil has made some of their products convertible but even some of Charbroil bbq’s are not ready-made for this easy conversion. Be careful.
Good work thanks for showing me now im going to do this on my channel 😅
Great video just had one question I noticed you did not replace the orifice with a natural gas one, is that mandatory?
I have a Evolution 5-Burner Grill and I wanted to know if I need to replace the orifice with natural gas ones or can take out the existing propane ones and leave it as is?
Hi Moss Support, for our Char-Broil grill we just had to remove the propane orifices and did not have to install any new ones.
However, this particular grill is specifically designed to be able to convert from propane to natural gas.
So you will have to call your grill manufacturer to find that answer.
Thanks for your question and good luck with your conversion!
Why didn't you put on a regulator?
@@aucoinrBecause it doesn't need one.
When in doubt ALWAYS read the manual and/or call the manufacturer!
the conversion pretty much consists of removing flow restrictor nozzles and the pressure regulator used for propane. cool. thank you.
My grill is meant to be able to be converted to natural gas, however, the model of the conversion kit suggested is not for sale anywhere. How much of a difference is there between conversion kits? Excellent video, by the way.
Hey Michelle,
Thanks. Maybe check at one of the big box stores for a universal conversion kit. I’d guess the universal kit should have the necessary supplies. Hope it works out for you.
Thx for watching.
6-1-2023, Super Awesome Video Sir!!! Thank you!!
Hey Vincent,
Awesome! Thx for the kind words and for watching!
Awesome...I am doing the entire thing to my grill...Thank you so much.
Hi Dewi, you are so welcome, awesome! How did it go?
Awesome guys!!. Thanks a lot for all the information about this matter!!...
Hi Juan, you are certainly welcome! Let us know if you do your conversion how it goes. Thanks for your comment!
So you aren't replacing those orifice pieces you are removing? I want to convert a an older grill I just got from a neighbor, and they don't make the "conversion kit" for it, and everything else I've read online says to replace that piece with one that works with NG. Thank you for the video!
Hi Kenny, the Char Broil engineers had this specific model set up for the conversion. So all we had to do was remove the old orifices and the openings were then correct for NG. This won't work with all grills because the openings could be the wrong size. So you will need to find the correct size to convert your grill. Good luck!
@@Housebarons oh, that makes much more sense then. Thanks for the information!
Once the grill is converted, can it still use propane? Or would I have to reverse the conversion process? Wondering as I would like to hook it up to the gas line at my home, but I also use the bbq for some business stuff in the summer where it would need to be connected to propane again... Thanks in advance!
Hey shea,
Yes. You’d have to switch it back. And make sure the manufacturer says it dual fuel and can be converted. Not all grills are.
Thx for watching!
Does anyone know how much it costs to have someone (the gas company? plumber?) run a gas line to the outside patio or deck? Had no idea natural gas grills existed (yes, been living in a cave), hence I inadvertently bought one at a garage sale, thinking it was propane. It is a giant rolling paper weight until I either get a gas line installed, or convert it to propane. Seems like it would be a massive advantage never to have to heft propane tanks around ever again, but if this is gonna cost somewhere in the thousands, think I'll try converting it.
In California it cost me $100
Maybe I missed something. Do you take the propane oriface out and replace it with a natural gas oriface, or do you take the propane oriface out and reassemble the pipe, and that's it?
Just take out original orifice. Only intended to work on DUEL FUEL grills. Duel fuel means the remaining hole after the propane nozzle is removed is the exact size for nat. gas.
Thx for watching!
I believe the extra orifice that came with the kit goes on the side burner…
or you could just drill out the original to 1/64… just a bit larger for natural gas to flow….
Hey Joan.
Thx for watching
I guess it was not necessary to dope the final threaded connection to the grill?? Why not?? I need to make that connection for a client tomorrow and was hoping to learn if/why that was needed or not. Thanks
Hey Wallace,
I do not remember if that was a flared fitting or not. If it’s flared, that’s a tight seal. If it is normal thread, pipe dope or gas tape is a good idea.
Thx for watching!
The taste of propane is definitely a good reason to convert from propane to natural gas. Another reason for converting is safety. Propane is extremely explosive and while there are plenty of safety measures built into consumer propane products it’s something we mustn’t get too casual about. Avoiding it in the first place is an easy way to have peace of mind.
Do you have one for Blackstone Hibachi Grill? Thank you!
Not clear whether I need to install replacement orifices that came with conversion kit. Your vid doesn't show replacements going in.
Our grill as made for dual fuel - so no replacements - it was designed to work that way.
Thx for watching!
im having an issue with my blaze natural gas grill. i have cleaned out all the burners n replaced the regulator. my next step i thought was to replace the orafices, but i see in your video "converting a propane to gas" that you have removed all the orafices , should i do that instead of replacing them
Hey Barbara,
Our specific grill is designated "Dual Fuel". So from the factory it comes ready for both fuels - depending on whether the orifices are in or out. A typical grill is not designed for that conversion conversion. As for removing your orifices, maybe give the manufacturer a call and clarify with them??
Thx for watching!
So when you took the orifice out! Did you have to replace it with a NG orifice or leave it ? Cause I saw you take the propane orifice out and that was it, or did you skip that whole process of inserting the new Orifice ?
Hey Lee,
It’s made at factory to be “ dual fuel”. Nothing else was needed after removal - by their design. Not all grills are like this.
Thx for watching!
Thank you so much for this awesome video. It saved me a lot of headache Cheers!
Hey Edward,
So glad to hear that! Thx for the encouragement and for watching!
Outstanding video 👍
Hi jammin6816, thank you very much! Good luck with your conversion! Let us know how it goes.
On the side burner I saw you take the old orfice out but did you replace it with a new one or just leave it out?
Hi Michael, we just took the old orifices out and did not replace them with any new orifices. That is how the conversion works with this grill. Thanks for the question and good luck if you decide to convert your grill!
Thank You so much!! Great and helpful info!
Hi Avlake2008, glad to hear this video was helpful. Hope your conversion goes well!
I contacted the store I bought my convertible grill, they said they are not allowed to sell me a conversion kit! I was so pissed off! So I will have to convert it myself!
Hi Mesedrew, we purchased our Char-Broil natural gas conversion kit from Lowe's. I just checked and they cost about $60. Good luck with your conversion and happy grilling!
What would be the issue/problem if you didn't have a dual fuel grill and converted it to natural gas anyway?
You forgot something very important, you need to check for any gas leaks I usually grab a water soapy sponge and put it where you make all the connections and look for any bubbles if its a bubbles that means you have a gas leak, it’s just my personal opinion and thanks for sharing a very good video!
Hi Jose, yes, definitely check for leaks! We have other videos where we show the soapy leak check to make sure the gas line is secure.
This video shows that exact procedure at the 7:54 mark:
How to Install a Ventless Natural Gas Fireplace
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Thanks for your comments!
Ty this was the only video I needed to watch . Subbed !
Hi Mr Morgan, awesome! Glad you subbed, hope your conversion goes well, and thanks for the comment!
@@Housebarons hi you doing, now what about if you want to convert from natural gas to propane, this is a great video but I have a griddle, it come for natural gas and I need to convert to propane
When you remove orifices, do I have to install/ replace with gas orifices?
Hi Chanaka, it is best to check your manual or check with your grill manufacturer to make sure propane to natural gas is okay for your particular grill. For our Char Broil grill, we only had to remove the orifices. There were no new orifices that needed to be installed. Good luck!
HouseBarons thanks a lot, you are more than helpful.
Yea, I was like,now there is no gas orifice in the manifold. 🤦🏼
I like King of the Hill, but sorry Hank, I prefer natural gas.
Btw, thanks for the video and I'm gonna try this for off the grid barbecuing. :)
Awesome Seph, hope that works out for you, happy grilling!
Well son I respect your right to choose.
good job very helpful
Hi Izzy, thanks for your comment and best of luck if you convert your grill!
Super helpful. Thank you!
Hi Edward, glad it was helpful! Thanks for your comment and we hope all goes well with your conversion!
hi Rich, I bought a kit to change LPG to natural gas on a gyro/shawarma machine or grill, can you help please thanks
Hi Mashwe, sorry, we did this video on Char Broil Grills because they are specifically designed to make the conversion. Perhaps you can call the technical support of the Gyro/Schwarma grill to see if this is possible. The conversion doesn't work for all units. Good luck!
Very Good!..
Hi Carl, thanks! If you convert your grill let us know how it goes. Good luck!
IM SORRY IF IDIDNT CATCH IT BUT DID YOU CHECK FOR LEAKS PRIER TO LIGHTING THE BBQ
Hi Nick, I don't recall. It has been a while. You make a great point. When working with gas it is always wise to check for leaks. That can easily be done by applying soapy water around the connections and seeing if there is any bubbling. Thanks for the comment!
So I only have to remove the orifices and not drill anything if I'm changing from propane to gas?
Hey Muhanad,
IF iF IF you have a grill which is designated “ dual fuel “ on it, that means your grill was designed to have the right size holes if you remove the propane orifices.
Only some grills are built this way.
Thx for watching!
So we don't need to put in a new bigger orifice. Just take out small holed one?
Hey Hoang,
You can only do this if the grill has a "dual fuel " logo - if so that means taking out the propane orifice leaves the correct size for nat gas - designed that way from the factory.
Thx for watching!
awesome This Video really help me OUT!!! Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Roger,
Thx for watching!
Great video thank you
Hello thePreciousPiscean, we appreciate your comment! Let us know if you make your conversion how it goes.
I want to convert a outdoor propane fire pit to natural gas , do I just take out the propane orifices ,or do I need to replace it with a N gas orifices ?
Hey Tom,
Not sure about that idea. Our grill was DESIGNED from the factory as dual fuel. That’s why all we had to of was remove the orifices. Places do sell natural gas burners - maybe that’s a better way to go.
Thx for watching.
@@Housebarons thank you very much
I can’t find any info for a TURBO Grill. Made by BBQGalore. They said they don’t sell kits anymore due to liability.
Hi R S, that is unfortunate news. People must have been doing something wrong with the conversion process. Maybe you could call the manufacturer. Even though they don't sell them anymore, perhaps they will tell you where you can purchase one. Good luck!
Does the natural gas connection need a drip leg/sediment trap before it goes to the grill? is that still required?
Hey Andrew,
It’s best to call your local building Dept for clarity as area requirements differ.
Common drip legs and sediment traps can be found by meters, furnaces, & water-heaters. .
Our area doesn’t require any for outdoor grills.
Thx for the question and for watching
Thanks, this video was very helpful.
Hey Tus,
Thanks for saying so . Thx also for watching.
when did you remove the propane gas nozzles then replaced with natural gas nozzles ?
Hey Paolo,
Because our grill is made at the factory as a “dual fuel” grill, once we take out the old propane nozzles, the orifice that is left is exactly the right size for natural gas. That is what duel fuel means.
So no new nozzles needed to be added .
Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons thanks
do you not need the gas regulator included in the conversion kit?
Hey @jbrady0712 ,
Check your local codes. We do not need a regulator on exterior appliances but that varies from place to place.
Thx for watching!
Great video! Thanks.
Thanks for your comment, hope all goes well if you convert your grill!
Does this apply to all grills? Please advise...
Hi Ken, according to Char-broil the answer is no. Here is what they have to say:
Make sure your grill is designed for dual fuel and able to run off of natural gas. Not every propane grill can use natural gas, so be sure to consult your owner's manual. Buy a conversion kit. A conversion kit enables you to turn a propane gas grill into a natural gas grill.
Thanks for your question, good luck with your conversion!
Is it safe enough to remove the orifices and not replace them with natural gas ones???
Hey Jacques,
We always say - ONLY IF your particular grill was designed to be “dual fuel”. That means, at the factory the orifices were sized correctly to accomplish this. The grill would have “ dual fuel “ stamped on it somewhere.
Thx for watching!
What happens if you use the wrong jets on your grill (propane jet on NG, NG jet on propane)? Will it damage the grill or will the flame just be funny?
Hey Ellenor,
I would suspect an out of control fire might result. That’s why we stick to the manufacturers instructions.
Better safe than sorry.
Thx for watching.
@@Housebarons ah. So likely person damage.
If a person had a vent above it. Could that be hooked up to natural gas and used indoors?
Hey Glen,
I wouldn’t use it indoors. Maybe check with the manufacturer for details on that.
Thx for watching!
Thank you! Nice video and really helpful!
Hey Rick,
Thx! and Thanks for watching!
Awesome.
Thank you Sir
Hey David ,
Thx for watching!
Did the natural gas line need a new regulator as opposed to the propane low pressure regulator?
Hey Bob,
We did not put a regulator on the grill. Typically they are used on indoor appliances.
Thx for watching!
Thanks for the video
Hey Marc,
Thanks for watching!
I have a Kitcheaid 740-0780 bought conversion kit to go from LP to NG. I called customer service and they told me i can remove the orifices (i have low flames) and no need to replace them with bigger holes. just reconnect. is this true ?
Hey Chris,
I can’t speak for kitchen aid, but you described the process we did w/ our dual fuel Charbroil.
Removing the smaller LP orifices leaves a perfectly sized larger Nat Gas opening.
Sounds familiar.
Thx for watching!
Question? is a regulator needed? or can you just run off the house regulator?
Hey David,
Check w/ your building Dept. Here, outdoors doesn’t require regulation other than the main one.
Thx for watching!
Hi, I converted mine and now it's burning way too hot. Even setting the burner on the lowest setting it's reaching temps of over 550 so I put the little restrictor thing back on and now it's not getting hotter than 300. How can I fix this?
If you have a drill, bits and proper thread tap for the orifice threads, a vise or vise grips and a piece of scrap metal ... and are a patient handyperson try this... drill proper hole in metal to tap proper threads for propane orifices. Thread one orifice into the newly tapped hole. Determine the size of the orifice and take a drill bit ever slightly larger than the exisiting hole in the orifice. Repeat drilling out process for all orifices . Reinstall modified orifices into grill. Test run grill to see if temp is within your prefered range. If not hot enough repeat drilling process with next slightly larger bit on all orifices. Remember, you cannot undrill a hole.... Use drill bits that have the smallest diameter difference as you use them to enlarge the orifice holes. A set of "letter size"drill bits for drilling metal would be the best choice for this task. Buying the bits as a set and one proper thread tap would be cheaper than the propane to natural gas conversion kit. The bits can be used for other projects... hope this helps
Good stuff tanks
Thanks, good luck if you convert your grill!
So if mine isn't dual fuel, could I just buy orifices made for natural gas and screw them in?
Hey Justen,
I would not do that without consulting the manufacturer. Ours was designed to be dual fuel.
Thx for watching!
I'm converting the other way to LP from NG. Do you know the thread width of the orifice? It appears to be 7mm . I know the hole is #133.
Hey Sir,
We’ve never done that so we could only guess. I’d call the grill manufacturer.
Thx for asking though.
@@Housebarons Thanks for the reply. Char-Broil wants to sell me a new manifold for $71 + shipping instead of 5 X $3 orifices. They won't even divulge the orifice size: "we don't have that information". Good thing I don't give up easily. Ha ha!
Hey Sir,
That is very interesting! Guess you have to be persistent.
Now you're going the right way son.
Thank you!
Can you do this to any bbq or only to those who allow this kind of conversion ?
Hey Egeo,
Not all allow it. If you want to be sure, call your grill manufacturer and they will be able to guide you.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for watching.
So, with propane, you taste the heat, not the meat?
Hi Tim, yes with propane I do get a strange taste, could just be me, but anyway it is great to have an unlimited supply of natural gas and not have to fool with the propane tanks.
Thank you so much! That saved us $98.00!,
HeySteelee,
Terrific! Thx for letting us know - it’s great to hear from fellow DIY’ers!
that was Great! thank you for your video
Hey H P,
Glad to hear it. Really appreciate you taking the time to let us know. Thank you for watching!
Thanks, this was helpful
Hi Stephen, thank you for your comment and good luck if you convert your grill from propane to natural gas!
What is the reason why not all LP grills can be converted ?
Hey Michelle,
I’d guess it has to do with the size of the orifice. It has to be precise.
Thx for watching!
I have a Weber geniuses I want to convert. Do you sell a kit to convert them.
What happened at the 16:02 mark?
Anyway, great video. Thank you!
Hey Carlton,
Not sure. That sound? Probably dropped something in the background. No worries….
Thx for watching!
Very helpful!
Hey Melissa,
Glad to hear it! Thx for watching....
Your links to amazon don't work anymore. But great video thanks! I was watching to see if there is some kind of natural gas regulator, but it doesn't look like it. Just a hose. So simple.
Hey Justen,
Thx for taking time to inform us about the amazon links. Looks like some products are no longer available or long delayed due to coved issues. Thx also for watching!
@@Housebarons oh, so maybe they'll be back. I see 👍
Hi quick question, so it does not need a gas regulator?? Please help
Hey Super...,
It depends on your local code and regulations - just check with your local building department. We did not need one for outside. Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons thank u so much. I'll be completing my setup here pretty soon. Video was really helpful, good job.