i agree with ur sentiment regarding millmaxed pcb. It is not the same as a soldered set up. Would you say that leaf shrouding makes a big difference compared to just lubing behind the leaf?
Yeah there's 200% a difference between solder and millmaxed. Solder vs hotswap are closer to each other, but millmax is definitely different sound/feel wise. I believe its cause the switches aren't completely flush to the pcb since the top lip of the millmax socket is on top of the pcb itself. I can never tune a perfect spacebar on a millmaxed pcb. In regards to leaf shrouding, it absolutely does make a big difference. I still lube the leaf too on top of doing the leaf shroud mod to entirely eliminate unwanted leaf sounds. I think you can still get away with only lubing the leaf, but if you want a completely silent leaf go for the leaf shroud mod. If you're using deskeys for the mod make sure to cut off the two edges that stick out at the top of the piece. I might make a video on how I do the mod.
IT SOUNDS SO MUCH BETTER! I’ve always had a problem with ticking spacebars on millmaxed PCBs. The sockets mess with the tolerances and spacebars sound worse
Interesting so you took the gmk wob base keycaps and added the Katana icons? How much was that all together? Also it looks like a default black keyboard which i like, how much does it actually change the feel?
I got a good deal on both gmk wob and wob katakana both like $80-90 CAD each from the aftermarket. I originally had the alphas from gmk perestroika on this board but I have that set mounted on something else right now so I just used the left over alphas from wob for now. There's no actual change in typing feel or anything just from the keycaps its all just regular gmk abs. Keyboard and plate combo however, the board is super comfortable to type on since PP is a really soft plate material and the top mount the Sessantacinque has balances it out with a bit of stiffness.
@@frankbuckley9774 Welcome to the hobby if you’re just getting into it! Unfortunately I don’t have anything to sell at the moment but gmk wob is pretty cheap and you can find some sick deals on the reddit or discord mechanical keyboard market
This build is definitely on the higher-end mainly because Merisi boards after their original group buy become rare on the aftermarket so that's where most of the cost is going into. The pp plate and mx browns aren't expensive at all. In total I would put this whole build around $500-600 USD all in with most of the cost going into the board itself.
@@chenyz 60s just really grew on me ever since I bought the Ciel. Ever since then all the boards I've lusted after have been 60s. I had a Dalco Mini, then a PLX and I'm waiting for the Martingale. But honestly..................... eghhhhhhhhhhh all because of this vid and the GHv4 Browns on CF vid I kinda lowkey want a Sessi
Felttttt I've been wanting more 60s but I can't justify getting more since I already have 3 LOL! I have been really wanting a plateless 60% to have in my collection like a Nue or a Seis Cero though The Sessi is an awesome board undoubtedly the best 65% I've had so far. Unfortunately they barely pop up aftermarket anymore so best of luck if you try to hunt one down
@@chenyz Martingale can technically be plateless, so I'm trying the 1.6 with no plate and the 1.2 with one. It's kinda like a leafspringy type PCB top mount. Been pretty excited for it to see how it'll be. Seis Cero has a really cool design language throughout and some great subtler colours that'd pair nicely with more muted keysets too
dude its real LOL ive had like multiple millmaxed boards its just not as good as soldered in my experience. soldered just sounds more full and the switches in the stab keys are secured so less ticking I've never been able to get a perfect spacebar on a millmaxed pcb
Yeah you can really hear a difference between the this and the old sound test. The old sound test is noticeably thinner sounding probably because the switches aren't flush to the PCB nor are they as tightly secured with solder joints vs a friction fit with millmax.
@@chenyz i've told myself there's no sound difference cause i haven't bothered to learn how to solder/buy the equipment but i'm starting to be convinced otherwise lol
I totally get that haha! If you've just been using hotswap, it still definitely sounds better than millmax since switches are flush to the PCB and is way more convenient than soldering. If you do wanna give soldering a try though, it is a bit of an investment since you need some equipment but its a pretty useful skill to have. Can be a fun and rewarding process when you get everything right. Make sure to invest in a fume extractor and solder in a well ventilated room since the fumes are bad to inhale.
I swear pp plate never misses
oh my god. Top mounted PP is a combo I never knew I needed
this tickles the brain nicely right here
i agree with ur sentiment regarding millmaxed pcb. It is not the same as a soldered set up. Would you say that leaf shrouding makes a big difference compared to just lubing behind the leaf?
Yeah there's 200% a difference between solder and millmaxed. Solder vs hotswap are closer to each other, but millmax is definitely different sound/feel wise. I believe its cause the switches aren't completely flush to the pcb since the top lip of the millmax socket is on top of the pcb itself. I can never tune a perfect spacebar on a millmaxed pcb.
In regards to leaf shrouding, it absolutely does make a big difference. I still lube the leaf too on top of doing the leaf shroud mod to entirely eliminate unwanted leaf sounds. I think you can still get away with only lubing the leaf, but if you want a completely silent leaf go for the leaf shroud mod. If you're using deskeys for the mod make sure to cut off the two edges that stick out at the top of the piece. I might make a video on how I do the mod.
yes please make the video of the mod. Ive seen the imgur tutorial but its always nice seeing a video@@chenyz
How did u get ur cam to angle in that way? Nc keeb
thanks! I'm just using a cheap little amazon tripod with my phone to get this angle haha
👀👍!
seriously sounds way too good
im assuming solder sounds better than millmax?
IT SOUNDS SO MUCH BETTER! I’ve always had a problem with ticking spacebars on millmaxed PCBs. The sockets mess with the tolerances and spacebars sound worse
Interesting so you took the gmk wob base keycaps and added the Katana icons? How much was that all together? Also it looks like a default black keyboard which i like, how much does it actually change the feel?
I got a good deal on both gmk wob and wob katakana both like $80-90 CAD each from the aftermarket. I originally had the alphas from gmk perestroika on this board but I have that set mounted on something else right now so I just used the left over alphas from wob for now.
There's no actual change in typing feel or anything just from the keycaps its all just regular gmk abs. Keyboard and plate combo however, the board is super comfortable to type on since PP is a really soft plate material and the top mount the Sessantacinque has balances it out with a bit of stiffness.
Gotcha. Ive never actually tried GMK keys. I recently got into this stuff. By chance do you wanna sell the set or have any sets youd sell?@@chenyz
@@frankbuckley9774 Welcome to the hobby if you’re just getting into it! Unfortunately I don’t have anything to sell at the moment but gmk wob is pretty cheap and you can find some sick deals on the reddit or discord mechanical keyboard market
Love it. How expensive is this build? I would love have one myself.
This build is definitely on the higher-end mainly because Merisi boards after their original group buy become rare on the aftermarket so that's where most of the cost is going into. The pp plate and mx browns aren't expensive at all. In total I would put this whole build around $500-600 USD all in with most of the cost going into the board itself.
fire
This sounds so fucking good agggghhhhhhhhh
I wish Merisi would do a 60 (no the Dodici doesn't count 😠) I'd buy that INSTANTLY
Dude I would insta cop a 60% Merisi board too. I’m a 60s enjoyer at heart haha
@@chenyz 60s just really grew on me ever since I bought the Ciel. Ever since then all the boards I've lusted after have been 60s. I had a Dalco Mini, then a PLX and I'm waiting for the Martingale. But honestly..................... eghhhhhhhhhhh all because of this vid and the GHv4 Browns on CF vid I kinda lowkey want a Sessi
Felttttt I've been wanting more 60s but I can't justify getting more since I already have 3 LOL! I have been really wanting a plateless 60% to have in my collection like a Nue or a Seis Cero though
The Sessi is an awesome board undoubtedly the best 65% I've had so far. Unfortunately they barely pop up aftermarket anymore so best of luck if you try to hunt one down
@@chenyz Martingale can technically be plateless, so I'm trying the 1.6 with no plate and the 1.2 with one. It's kinda like a leafspringy type PCB top mount. Been pretty excited for it to see how it'll be. Seis Cero has a really cool design language throughout and some great subtler colours that'd pair nicely with more muted keysets too
stop coping with the millmax vs soldered is big diff lol
dude its real LOL ive had like multiple millmaxed boards its just not as good as soldered in my experience. soldered just sounds more full and the switches in the stab keys are secured so less ticking I've never been able to get a perfect spacebar on a millmaxed pcb
homie look at the old soundtest, the difference is night and day
Wow there really is a sound difference
Yeah you can really hear a difference between the this and the old sound test. The old sound test is noticeably thinner sounding probably because the switches aren't flush to the PCB nor are they as tightly secured with solder joints vs a friction fit with millmax.
@@chenyz i've told myself there's no sound difference cause i haven't bothered to learn how to solder/buy the equipment but i'm starting to be convinced otherwise lol
I totally get that haha! If you've just been using hotswap, it still definitely sounds better than millmax since switches are flush to the PCB and is way more convenient than soldering.
If you do wanna give soldering a try though, it is a bit of an investment since you need some equipment but its a pretty useful skill to have. Can be a fun and rewarding process when you get everything right. Make sure to invest in a fume extractor and solder in a well ventilated room since the fumes are bad to inhale.
@@chenyz ah okay, I use hotswap so hopefully not much of a difference
He has stopped holding his keyboards in his thumbnails, because they became too heavy and too expensive. ❤
TRUE LOL
It’s sounds way too clicky for my taste.
Totally fine! We all have our own preferences and I respect that