Richard Jefferson Gets REAL About The Failings Of 2004 Olympic Team That Lost To Argentina
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 เม.ย. 2023
- In this clip, Richard Jefferson talks about his experience in the 2004 Olympic team with LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony and Dwyane Wade and how their failings ultimately led to the Redeem Team.
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Shoutout Tommy for the WILD question lol th-cam.com/video/dAdQCzvwYSE/w-d-xo.html
Sounds like Richard Jefferson is just making up a bunch of excuses.
“We get it bro… thank you for showing your Argentina knowledge” 😂😂😂😂
4:50 heard or as I read 😂
Freaking*
Richard is smart & funny af, def gay vibes and the little Jason Collins comment was interesting lol, and the accompanying vibes. Anyway, he’s a cool dude, and perfect JJ guest lol.
Tommy putting his life on the line for this clip
Facts😂😂😂😂
I think he maybe, might have, slightly, perchance, subtly, perhaps, conceivably, feasibly, possibly touched a nerve there...
@@ConnorJScholten idk why this comment is so funny to me😭
perchance
Rone would be proud
We learned after 04 that we couldn’t just send a team that never played together over seas to dominate. Now we have a 3 year commitment from players.
All Star teams worked perfectly fine, they didn't send one which was one of the main problems. Only 2 players that went to the Olympics were All Stars that season, and only 2 others had ever been an All Star before. And not many times.
No shooters as well. It allowed the other teams to sit back and make us out shoot them.
@@kb5509 also like he said our players are playing for more than 1 year now. They have fiba teams and longer commitments.
It was Larry Browns fault. USA basketball never looked that bad before or after that team
Used to have commitment. Grant Hill just removed that. Players no longer need to commit long term now
The 2004 Olympic team was set up to fail from the get go. USA basketball thought that if they threw a bunch of guys together, the gold would just fall into their lap. The organization did not understand how much the international game had evolved.
They had next to no long range shooters on that squad. Show how important spacing is.
Exactly. Especially right now
That's what they did in ,1992. Just threw a bunch of guys together and won the gold🤷
US basketball did not intend to fail, it is just the players selected to play did not want to participate.
Ya be trying ya best to explain why Lebron got a Bronze Medal😂😂😂😂
I'm glad he mentioned the 2003 members saying no to going. A lot of people don't realize how much it matters. That original team would have destroyed and the US selection system wouldn't have changed until later. If at all.
Ok but still got that tim duncan and iverson. I mean with those 2 you should win.
@@marche83ful I agree but it's not like every better team wins every game. It just didn't work out but with having more great players returning it would have helped decrease the chances.
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@@marche83ful not in international competition. If you’ve watched the Olympics at all you can see that. The 2000 teams was a shot alway from losing. I stayed up to watch the 08 team and Spain was right there with them in the 2nd half. Showed it wasn’t just about throwing stars together. It’s also the system and cohesion
@@marche83ful The Mavericks have Luka and Kyrie and they stunk up the court the last few weeks.
"I went to Arizona, it was like a big sports school. You (Redick) don't know anything about that." The man is passive aggressive and super petty. I love it.
RJ is top tier funny without trying
I pretty sure he was directing that to tommy. Reddick went to duke which one of if not the biggest sports programs in the country
@@plutobaby9996 that was for sure a sarcastic joke towards JJ
@@plutobaby9996 RJ hates Duke because he lost the NCAA Championship to Duke.
He’s been extra snarky throughout the clip and both interviewers knew it and JJ kept trying not to smile about it. It’s gold content there.
I love how brutally honest Richard was in this
He's always brutally honest. He don't gaf lol
The alcohol babyyyyy
I drive for my job and I was listening to this episode on the road. When Tommy asked RJ his favorite part of the Olympics and he responded FU I could of damn near crashed from dying of laughing. One of the best episodes for me. Love RJ and his humor
That was a great moment.... Not you almost crashing btw!
Right after he said he's more professional on air while at it.
Be safe 🙏
Lol RJ and JJ are funny af together lololol
The fact that Manu Ginobili doesn't get enough credit for taking out team USA and getting his team a gold medal in 04 and is still not on the top 75 list is disrespectful
Facts he doesn't get enough credit shoutout 🇦🇷
Relax. He took out a extremely mediocre team USA. That wasn't an A or B team. C at best and I wouldn't even say that. Why should he get credit for beating a subpar team? Just because they're wearing USA jerseys? Get outta here
@@Lloyd00 HAHAHA Americans bringing out the lame excuses. The 2004 team was:
Tim Duncan
Iverson
LeBronze James
Wade
Carmelo
Amar'e Stoudemire
Shawn Marion
Lamar Odom
Stephon Marbury
Carlos Boozer
Richard Jefferson
Americans saying they're supposed to lose because they brought the C-Team. 😅🤣😂
@@TomCruz54321aye it's okay because yall expected us to win even year unlike whatever country u from lol. Second, when your country and the world catch up with all the Olympic gold medals we have, then u can have braging rights 😂. Livin off a 2004 Olympic tournament are u kidding me? Win this 2024 first 😆 if your American we all know you are to shame and hate lbj. Dis grace to the country if you are living in it
@@TomCruz54321HAHAHA thinking they have to be American because they're being realistic
“Are we done drinking” -Richard Jefferson -my type of guy
Just in case you're curious. Richard Jefferson had a 37.6 career 3-point percentage. JJ had a 41.5. What's crazy is that he had a 47.5% year but only took about five-and-a-half per game that season. If you can shoot nearly 48% from three you should be getting as many as you want.😊
Another way to look at it is, you can only shoot 48% if you only take good 3pt shots.
@@dannyheel1 if you have an incredible scorer who can kick out the ball to the three-point line then you might be shooting some wide-open threes. Something like Steve Kerr. Highest three-point percentage in NBA history.
@@dannyheel1 I'm from Durham and I watched JJ play in college at Duke. He can hit him whether he's open or not.
That’s some surface level basketball understanding.
@@eric8146 what? I wasn't trying to make any deep point I was only saying here's what they shot for their careers. Get over yourself.
RJ is genuinely hilarious
Don't underestimate how good the Argentina 2004 team was, Ginobli, Scola, Nocioni, Delfino, Oberto. These were guys playing at good level in Europe, some made it to NBA, but they were a really good team with great chemistry and they played amazing and with passion. I loved watching the basketball in this olympics. I'm from Greece so it was special for us.
Was a huge NBA fan as a kid. Watched every US game at the 04 Olympics. I was in disbelief when they lost. This is so fascinating to hear after all that time
I wasn't, I was happy 😌. Never again will they underestimate the other countries and not make the lineup consist of super stars and throw in role players and rookies that aren't top 5 in their fields.
I cannot overstate how enjoyable this podcast was 😂 PLEASE find a way to do this more.
"All kidding aside, f--- you." 🤣
"I had my bronze medal gold plated"😂😂 Wtf 😂
Tommy's question and RJs reaction Might have been the funniest quote of the year
My two favorite NBA analysts 😂
RJ talking about how tough Argentina was like the US didn't get waxed by Carlos Arroyo and Puerto Rico at the beginning of those 04 Olympics
in one podcast interview with Arroyo, he said something like "We could win this." after beating the USA only to be trashed later by a different team.😂 That 04 USA was really not up to their usual standard.
The documentary is stupid in the sense that they seem to convey that in 2008 nobody believed that TeamUSA could win because they lose in 2004.
Crazy part is that Spain come inches within pulling one of the greatest upsets against one of the most stacked rosters.
Amazing interview. I learned so much from this. Keep it up J.J.
Funny how everyone blames Bron for that shitty Olympic team and ignore the fact that Tim Duncan and Allen Iverson were on that team
LeBron was not even 20 years old and was just coming off his rookie season when he joined that 2004 team. 🤷🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️
I blame the nine players who said no. I am greatful that LBJ, Wade and Melo showed up even they don't have the exp to win.
Bron Wade and melo barely played
Tommy’s ability to ask great questions is underrated
This moment here at 4:35 is just brilliant and just the sort of easygoing humor that makes this specific podcast and guest so entertaining to watch. Love the work you guys do!! ❤
So many hilarious clips from this podcast, RJ is too funny lol 😂😂
PLEASE MAKE A PART 2 TO THIS INTERVIEW!!!
JJ, thank you for this having this podcast. I stopped paying attention to the NBA quite a few years ago. But your videos have ignited my passion for basketball in general again. So thanks for that. Also, I bet if you asked MJ. He would definitely be on the show.
I bet ChuckShaw thinks the college game is better…
You know a video is great when it unexpectedly ends.
The World just got way better. The 2000 team nearly lost to Lithuania on last second missed three. The 2008 team was barely beating Spain in the 2H of the gold medal match.
And in 2018 and 2020 they sucked.
Its all about choosing good players, shooters.
Even 2008 was not exactly balanced, 2012 also. The Gasol brothers were feasting and the US was always undersized.
2016 is an example how to crush competition in modern FIBA competition. Get Kyrie + Curry. You are kinda good from the getgo.
Dont get players that REALLY WANNA PLAY but arent fitting the team, like e.g. Donovan Mitchell. A great player but a completely wrong choice.... Jayson Tatum. Just nooo.
2000
2002
2004
2006 all had some shitty performances
2000 did win the gold but Jasikevicius missed a game winning 3.... that team didnt dominate.
Do you think the dream team would have problems with Spain?
@@domagojgreguric6957 Curry wasn't in the 2016 squad! You literally talking about 2014 squad
@@domagojgreguric6957 Lol you also forgot the young USA team lead by 1-2 veteran that dominated in 2010 FIBA as well
@domagojgreguric6957 don't even bring up 2008. They dominated everyone except the #2 ranked team who had a starting 5 of NBA players.
The thing with the 2004 team was Larry Brown. He was not the right coach for the international game and did not even play Lebron and Melo and DWade who could use their size and speed against the international teams.
They were too young, they would’ve been cooked by the Europeans and their team chemistry.
Wow shout out to RJ, as a Spurs fan I thought he was going to drag SA
This RJ interview is one of the best on the cast
I love listening to this podcast the conversations are amazing I would love to see more of RJ Tommy and JJ on the podcast.
Ive listened to paul georges podcast and I love the way paul talks makes conversation the other guy just sits there and just makes stupid noises while sounding like he s high
Rj give the best interviews🔥🔥
Man these episodes are amazing
This is the first time I heard that 30 guys said no. I always thought Olympics is the greatest thing you can do is represent our country
As a black athlete why tf would you say yes to being on the American team lol. Why would you support a country that at one point in time saw you as 3/5 of a human
@@lornegreen6755 didnt seem to stop any of the previous players from previous years from playing in it up until that point. Also hasnt stopped any of them since then either
You have to remember this was a different time. Before smartphones even. This was just a few years after 9/11. There were legit security concerns of flying anywhere. Especially NBA players who probably flew all the time.
Im sure in hindsight like RJ said the players knowing what they know now wouldve not refused and played in the Olympics. U could also argue that this was the height of how arrogant the US was in terms of bball. Eh why would i play in this when its a forgone conclusion that we r gonna win regardless of who we play bcuz we hv all the best players. Like many have said, they didnt realize that the rest of the world were catching up
@@lornegreen6755 you never experienced that you clown
@@NaruBrilu this
That maddog shot was very smooth JJ lol
If the youngsters were actually experienced, it would've been a gold medal squad.
Just with AI, Marbury, Marion, Boozer, Odom, and Duncan, they had a solid team; but really thin in terms of SG's and 3-point shooting. Maybe needed to add an accurate shooting guard like Jason Terry, Gilbert Arenas, Cuttino Mobley, Jim Jackson, Michael Finley, Michael Redd, or Brent Barry.
This was a great pod
Chip has played for my country back then as a naturalize player. His a legendary 3 point shooter too.
Huge respect for Jefferson!
You two are so great together 😂
Everything about this clip is great
Marbury and ai thinking they're better than Duncan is the reason for the 04 loss.
Just accept Manu Ginobili was one the top 2 shooting guards in the world at the time and the Argentina roster was disciplined and clinical in both defence and offense
Awesome, they might have had 3 guys good enough to play in the NBA, and the NBA sent 12 All Stars.
Manu wasn’t better than AI or Kobe. Stop it.
So why were they getting beat by 40 in qualifying? Just accept that it took the USA D team for Argentina to win.
@@vaudou_finally someone who gets it. RJ said they had 3 guys returning and had to ask 30 players to get the other 9.
@@vaudou_ HAHAHA Americans bringing out the lame excuses. The 2004 team was:
Tim Duncan
Iverson
LeBum James
Wade
Carmelo
Amar'e Stoudemire
Shawn Marion
Lamar Odom
Stephon Marbury
Carlos Boozer
Richard Jefferson
Americans saying they're supposed to lose because they brought the D-Team.
Hey Bill great to have you on the pod. So tell us about Monica.
I loved this one endless roasting 😂
I remember kobe and tmac said no lol kg was supposed to be there too. Kobe tmac and kg in their prime wouldn't have lost to ginobli and nocioni
I wouldn't be soo certain given the Olympic program wasn't well structured like the post 2004 reforms, even in 2000 the US came very close to loosing.
@@frankincensemerchant1284 2000 was Fredrick vice foh it wasn't close
The way that question popped up 😂👏🏽
PS I would love to do RJs job.
ay man RJ is no doubt a top 3 guest ever lol hes gotta come back every now and then
The fact that Richard Jefferson was on the 2004 Olympic team says it all 😂🤣
So was Lebronze, wade, Carmelo, Tim Duncan, Iverson, Amar’e Stoudemire.
Seems like a team full of super stars
@@rayleigh8 4 of the players you mentioned played less than 20 min a game with 2 of them under 7min because the coach refused to play young players anymore than he had to.
Tommy always with key questions
Hey 77 millions dollars guy !!! I'm from Puerto Rico my coach was Eddie Casiano remember that logo shot!!!!
I still believe it was a lot of players that would of agreed to go that was not all stars or future stars that could of been on that team and helped them win all they needed was 2 shooters from the perimeter lary brown was calling great plays getting people open for outside jump shots guys was just bricking there jumpers I saw RJ miss so many open corner 3's I couldn't believe it.
great info
I love listening to Richard Jefferson he is entertaining and has a personality it’s easy to listen to my dawg.
He was never a 3 and D guy… Nobody ever talks about RJ and mentions defense. 😭
I love the two of you guys. Listening to you guys is like listening to Kobe. Close one
The chemistry is crazy
This Lowkey is one of the greatest basketball podcasts of all time.
Love RJ mixture of professionalism and zest
Another thing a lot of people fail to mention is how different NBA is from FIBA basketball. The NBA didn’t allow zone defenses until 2001. NBA players, specially young ones like the 2004 US Team roster had no idea how to attack the zone at that time.
This is the greatest podcast ever
JJ trolling Larry Bird’s 3 point shooting percentage was GOLD
A scrub throwing rocks at the throne
@@lionelt7882 Still very accurate
My favorite honest podcast 😂😂😂
RJ has the same 3pt percentage as Larry Bird??
Having your bronze medal plated gold is hilarious 😂😂
Here's a comment from an Argentinian to add insult to injury. Lol
Nice one 🤣🤣
JJ we need a manu podcast!!!!
Fun fact, Larry Bird won every three point comp he was in. No-one has won more than he has. Hey Redick, how many NBA allstar 3 point comp championships have you won?
The starting lineup should’ve been the team that won the 04 finals
All I got from RJ "explanation" or excuses was that chemistry/experience matters more than a whole bunch of elite stars who are scorers on your team. Iverson AND Duncan? Still got spanked
RJ is one of the few guests to bring out JJ's true psycho
RJ is one of my favorite people in or around the NBA. Dude is hilarious but,when he gets serious,he has great points everytime.
You have to get Tim Duncan. Or Hakeem. We need to hear from the silent goats. They have to have some crazy perspectives
What RJ said about USA team is completely changing narrative for 2004 team. Shame on players who said no for 2004 Olympics and as the same time huge respect for rookies to fight for their country. Even if this turn out to be disappointment.
The favorite moment of the 2004 Olympics is the setup for literally a better Olympics team.
It was nice to hear RJ give Pop and Chip Engelland credit for extending his career because he was Public Enemy Number One when he played in San Antonio. He was literally blamed for everything bad that happened to the Spurs while he was there. 🤷🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️
A lot of those older players who said no had personal and career issues that year, legal problems, contracts, injuries, relationship with their Olympic teammates. They were putting all of that above the interests of the US national team. That's why the young squad was sent in, they were still pretty good, but just way too young.
How do you know the US wasn't the problem. I remember hearing them speak about sending in role players and young players instead of our best players and being like "wtf are they thinking?" I was okay with the line up because it wasn't that bad. But I was shocked when other teams were busting us, especially when shooting those outrageous 3's before Steph was doing it 🤔.
“Coaching only matters when you loose”
Was he serious about the gold plated bronze? If so how do you not ask a follow up ? Love ya guys🖤💛🏀🤟✌️
Not playing Bron, melo and Wade was the downfall of that team
They were 1 year into the league, playing a completely foreign type of basketball, and it still doesn't address the woeful lack of shooting. I don't think it would've changed the outcome.
Clearly don't know how Olympics teams works LOL they were rookies, never experienced this. Casual
@@kb5509 Carmelo Kyam Anthony is right there and middys are a universal language, like love. This excuse does not fly.
@@sayomom so losing was better than playing rookies because they knew how the Olympics work? What are you even saying? You're justifying losing
@@kb5509 Yeah, that 2004 team just had their chances cut from the beginning, but the rookies of Lebron, Wade and Carmelo not even playing made it even worse for their chances
It's kinda weird that those players that he mentioned were willing to qualify for the Olympics but not compete at the Olympics the next year. I guess they didn't wanna go to Europe or something. That's the only explanation I can think of
No one mentioning that they played/had no outside shooters. They werent able to space the defence and had to shoot everything from the inside of the 3 point line. Plus it's impossible to win any tournament if Melo is on your team.
Yet Melo won multiple gold medals after so your comment is idiotic
Melo is actually the most decorated men’s basketball Olympian *AND* the all-time leading scorer, but keep going with that *BOGUS* narrative. 🤷🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️
Your lack of knowledge about basketball is shocking. Wow.
he did mention it, and they said they didnt show up
I would be ashamed of being on that team
Richard Jefferson is hilarious when he cuss, he doesn't even sound right. lol
Anyone saying that Iverson and Duncan alone was enough need to shut up. The Olympics consist of the best of the best. Iverson and Duncan wouldn't even be enough to win a chip at home. This was the worst roster team assembled. USA 🇺🇸 got too cocky.
RJ wasn't with Team USA in 2002 when they lost in the World Cup at Indiana. While they dominated the FIBA America Cup the following year (with those players he mentioned), it was the same story for the '04 Olympics and it's not as if the system was any better for the '06 World Cup until now. They just have more unguardable players. Those select teams with guys who played in World Cup qualifying defend better and look like a legit FIBA Team than anyone USAB can pick from the NBA over an off-season.
It's simple... they didn't have Kobe
Neither did any of the other teams.. not even close
5:27 “I think the documentary was- I hate you”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂bruhhhhh
IIRC the reason so many guys dropped out was because they did not want to be coached by Larry Brown
2004 Team USA's jersey design was fire though
I didn’t realize that 9 of the original 12 said no and then 30 dudes also said no.
Yeah, no one seems to know that. 🤷🏻♂️
@@johnbrowntheprophettalk about not providing context. The media tells the story and they conveniently omit that dudes said no. I had no clue why we sent that roster to the Olympics in 2004.
I watched your highlights Richard and i am very surprised that you used to have hair bro XD
Sounds like when my high school fired my coach after winning state and everyone transferred lmao
Give us credit 🇦🇷🏀🥇
i feel like people forget the world championship team that lost in indianapolis (6th place) with paul pierce and company... that should've started the system overhaul