"Colleges have been forced to cut to the bone!" Meanwhile . . . . "Here's our Jungle themed lobby, gym, spinning room, spa, rock climbing wall, cafeteria, lazy river . . . "
They cut the important stuff like limiting how much you can use the printer and teacher salaries (only hire adjunct and student teachers) but then waste money on recreation centers.
Whatever she is, she is not a diversity counselor. That's another non essential university job that pays 6 figures easily. Total waste of money especially when Michelle Obama promoted it.
She's getting paid by DemoKKKRats to sell DemoKKKRat brainwashing machines called "colleges". When over 90% of colleges vote DemoKKKRat, you know why prices go up.
Think back to those kids who got those professors fired for the 'wrong' opinion on Halloween costumes: "THIS IS OUR HOME. THIS IS THE PLACE WE COME TO TO FEEL SAFE!" Speaking about college......
Many billions of dollars spent annually on higher education. Best part? The week without classes. I'm not a professional economist, but that doesn't sound right to me.
I couldn't believe it either. College is supposed to be furthering one's education and prepare them for the job market, not go to some spa or gym. Basically she dismissed her university as an establishment of education.
I am a “non-traditional” student. When i went back too school i never had the TIME to use any of that “stuff”. I was too busy working, studying, and doing homework. No idea how these kids have the time.
That's the trap: party hard on campus, chill out, fail a few subjects and you're now going to take an extra year or two to finish. My brother failed a subject in his second year of a five year double degree, but the knock on effect was that he couldn't simply make it up, he ended up going a whole extra year. His advice to me when I started was "if you think a subject is boring, it's even more boring the second time around".
True. When I was in school there was a different mentality as to why you are here and what this is all about between two classes of students. The first class was straight out of high school and University was a party. The second class was people from the military, returning students, and career changers. For this second class this was at University to gain marketable skills quickly and efficiently. They wanted to get back into the work force and earn money and pay off bills.
You are being generous calling them adults. They are children refusing to grow up and extending their childhood on the backs of taxpayers, their parents or their future selves. The colleges are just predatory sleazy salespeople.
@@TheBehm08 my first thought was that the education must not be worth it. Thousands of dollars for an education and they think arithmetic and writing start with an R?
It's the only R and it stands for retarded. No wonder kids are stupid nowadays, education isn't foremost. But rather luxury spas... so that the college teachers can beat their meat to young girls bathing. I bet there are cameras everywhere...
@@Tom-qp6oh I hope your degree isn't in philosophy or sociology, because in that case you'll be the one serving fries for the rest of your life to pay back a student loan.
I don't think I've ever seen Stossel pop off to someone's face like that, but I suppose he must've been frustrated to just see her blatantly lie about the data.
And it's not just the wider availability. Having taught at the college level, both at a community college and at a couple of graduate schools, there is a huge problem of grade inflation. The diplomas are valued more than the education by both the students and the administration.
A high school diploma was a big deal then no child was left behind and it was worthless. College degrees were a big deal then they created BS disciplines any high school graduate could pass and watered down the whole thing. Soon when everyone goes to college and there are quotas on races, genders, sexual identities and passing the same percentage of each they will be utterly worthless.
@@stuarthall3874 I've spent less time studying in some of my college classes than I did back in high school. I'm talking less than 10 hours spent on homework/studying for an entire course. My first two years were mostly memorize the powerpoint before the exam and here is your A. I eventually did choose to be responsible enough and put those extra hours into a full-time job that would actually give me some skills before graduating and help pay off my loans, but I'm sure most kids won't be willing to do that.
@@jacobg8640 I finished with an A+ in a class which gave every exam as an open note test, and which took every exam question directly off the study guide. I also spent the semester working in R&D for a telehealth company and will have a patent to show for it. One of these things means a lot more for employers...
She said: tuition is going up, but it isn't going up persay .🙄🤣🤣🤣 I can't believe she opened her mouth to form that sentence. Lets you know the real worth of a "think tank" AKA "stink tank". Getting paid exorbitant amounts of money to formulate an opinion that wasn't wanted in the first place lol.
With all the activities and extra curriculars on campus, those who chose an online education should pay half. Judging by what I see as far as the "educated" college graduates these universities are pumping out, I'd say they are all getting ripped off regardless.
My school decided this semester that all students had to leave campus and take online classes after Thanksgiving. The school also gave the choice to take every single class entirely online along with clubs. The primary benefit of a dorm to avoid a commute is entirely gone, you are there almost an entire month less, and my school STILL raised the dorm price from last Fall. And of course, the students are STILL willing to pay for it.
My economics teacher, a very wealthy businessman, once asked us how smart we thought we are. A minute later, he said I will tell you how smart you are; You pay me to tell you to read chapters 1 thru 4, You pay me to give you a test to make sure you read chapters 1 thru 4 and many of you will fail the test because you wouldn't read chapters 1 thru 4.
@@Verifraudreports I think your salary estimate is about $100k off Edit: I agree if you're a pipeline welder traveling all the time or you're overseas, or even an underwater welder you'd probably be able to pull off $150k, but not if it's a local welding job.
Last year i was driving with my cousin. He is a surgeon. As we drove through the neighborhood of mansions he pointed to the biggest house on the street. He told me, the owner of this house is the guy who owns the landscaping company that cuts his grass. No college required. Just determination and hard work.
@@isaacrockefeller225 yes, some of the classes are like that. some professors cannot tolerate a different answer even if it is just paraphrasing their original answer
Went to a Community College and a big name University and I honestly have to say, I learned more and had a much better time in my local Community College.
Over the summer, I took a few courses at a local Community College. Some instructors would say they taught both there and at a nearby "Big Named University." They said there was little difference they are the same person using and same textbook for the same course. But consider the Community College cost only $50 a cr/hr Hr while "Big Named University" cost over $175 a cr/hr. In the end, the accrediting body requires that Calculus be Calculus.
Community College has saved me thousands of dollars. All of my friends went to university and I see them struggling financially. Just for the sake of “College Experience”. I feel that universities are packed with hardcore leftist/communist. Every corner a red fist lifting up.
I went to community, and for one of my art history classes I had the same professor as the 50k private college 25 minutes down the road. Lol. For one one hundredth the cost.
I graduated as high school valedictorian with a 4.2 GPA. I decided to matriculate at my local community college first anyway, despite being accepted to all universities I applied to and my mother thinking it's a "huge mistake." No regrets thus far.
Forgot to mention. My Community College has a Dean's List scholarship. If your GPA is 3.0 or above, then they waive the $50 cr/hr tuition. You still have to pay for your lab fees, expenses, and books. Yes, free tuition! It becomes rough holding/juggling a PT job plus school plus commute. Most schools will let you transfer up to 90 cr/hrs. Should you feel a bit of stigma about Community College don't put it on your resume; let you 4 year degree be there. It will be our secret. :-)
Maybe some, SOME, do see the irony. That's why they do it. Think about it. How else are Commies in the government going to make people turn to them to take care of them? By taking away their freedom to make a living that doesn't have to be a college based one, and making them broke. So, they have no choice, but to turn to the government for life.
I’d love to see a breakdown of annual college budgets, especially for a lot of these state and Ivy-league schools. Large projects that required significant investments would also be an interesting impact on the school’s overall spending.
When I went to college here (Guatemala) everything was focused on LEARNING: no spa, no gym, no fancy dinner, no recreation centers, pool or other amenities - only good class rooms, laboratories, cafeteria and libraries.
I used to have the three universities from which I obtained degrees in my will. Upon my demise, I would have bequeathed a portion of my lifetime earnings to those institutions. A few years ago, I toured the dorm in which I lived as an undergraduate. Now, none of those institutions will get a thin dime when I leave this vale of tears. To heck with them.
“What ultimately happens when you aim for equality is that A and B decide what C shall do for D; except that they take a little bit of a commission off on the way.” - Milton Friedman
I have been saying this exact thing for 20 years. Colleges were VERY affordable as recent as the 80s and early 90s. I remember paying $780 a quarter (so basically 2250 a year) in tuition at Georgia Tech in early 90s. The room and board and meal plan cost about the same as tuition. People once could afford to work a part time job and pay for tuition. Now a part time job would only pay for a few books and the meal plan for a semester. The tuition and room and board another $5000 - $10000 a semester at most state schools. nuts. End, don't just reduced, but END ALL government subsidies. No a single government backed loan, not a single federal grant, nothing. Within HOURS you would see colleges offering free room and board and meal plans if you come to their school and pay tuition, that is suddenly reduced 50%. You would see a "buy the first year and we'll pay for the second year" deals, again, with greatly reduced costs (the colleges would be competing with each other by dropping costs constantly). We need everything on campus right-sized (lean and mean), including overpaid faculty that doesn't even teach in many cases (research, ie, sitting on their keisters writing books to make even more money). If nothing else, ban any federal aid to schools whose non-faculty costs are more than triple faculty salaries. I may be way off, but find a reasonable percent and any college that has fancy rock walls and student centers full of luxuries and overbuilt resort dorms is cut off and if they fail, GOOD. That means a cheaper, back to just educating college will rise from those ashes. Why do so many (not all) Democrats and leftists think MORE money will somehow control or reduce costs, when it's done nothing but encourage campus execs to lavishly spend on COMPLETELY unnecessary luxuries and non-education related amenities? All a student needs is a SMALL, but clean dorm room with a full size bed, a shower and restroom, reasonable and nutritious meals (not lobster or filet or truffles) and solid classrooms and faculty, nothing more.
My college didn't even have benches or picnic tables or anywhere to sit outside except steps. Our art studio shared space with aerobics. Sports used high school sports fields. But we were ranked #2 in nation for equine program
My son went to college. I paid for it. First thing I learned. Living in a dorm cost more then the education, along with books. He lived at home, and it was affordable. Also, most states allow, as well as it being free. High school student to take english 101, math 101, and history/government 101. At a community college, and have that count at credits for their first year of college. With them still being in High School. It's free for them. They go to their regular High School for the morning, and the community college in the afternoon. It eliminates paying for the first year of college, or the first 2 years, if they start as a junior on high school.
Thank you for pointing out the insane relative inflation of the cost of college. That is something that frustrates me when discussing college debt with many older people, they don’t seem to understand the drastic increase in the cost of attendance. When my boss entered our field his total student debt was just under the average first year salary, now it’s more than two times average first year salaries. Worse still there is still a pretty good percentage of people in my field with zero debt, take them out of the equation and the number goes to almost 4:1.
My family is a true middle class white collar family. My mom is a masters level nurse and my dad is an occupational therapist. I was expected to go to school and not settle for anything less than a masters degree. Best thing that I did was wait until I knew what I wanted. I didn't go to my university until the age of 23/24. I worked the whole time. I missed a lot of community events and such. But now I get to do whatever I want because I graduated with an undergraduate degree debt free. I am half way through my Masters program debt free. My family is proud and I appreciated my education way more than my classmates because I had to work for that education.
And a big thing I wish people understood, you do not need a campus for a community experience. There are so many social groups you can get involved with (whether hobby related, volunteer, sports related etc.) that you can find and be a part of. I guarantee you that most people stop talking to all but 10 or so of their "friends" from college. I wish we stopped treating college as simply an extended form of high school, it is stunting the development of people into responsible adults by pushing them into more school no matter the cost.
I work on a college campus and I am here to tell you, when budgets are "cut" it only affects staff salaries and hiring, not faculty. Building and renovations go on just like before.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THESE VIDEOS!! Liberals solution to problems caused by government intervention is MORE government intervention. For those of you who have not heard of the Libertarian Party, it is a PERFECT forever home for those of us that think logically about economics and value our personal freedom.
I graduated from a community college two years ago. I had federal aid for the 2.5 years I was there. I had to take out a loan for the first year. It was $5,500. I was blessed with a scholarship my last two semesters. The scholarship covered my entire tuition and yet I STILL received federal funding. I was being paid by the government to go to school. Which was nice, because I used the federal money to pay back a portion of my loan. Also I’m student debt free as of last Saturday!!! Community college/trades are so much better.
I go to a private university. Only way I got in was my full sports scholarship. I have no debt and will graduate with no debt this up coming semester. Blessed.
Not necessarily blessed. If you're pulling decent grades (B/A) while still being an athlete, *and* getting a worthwhile degree (hopefully something STEM or maybe Education, otherwise probably not), then you made wise choices and have a good work ethic. Which, I guess, is a blessing of its own, but one at least in part of your own making.
@@rons5319 They are also charged more to carry the weight (pun intended) of updated sports training locations and equipment. However, if Connor is both pulling his own weight academically AND bringing in more money to the school by ticket sales and merchandising than he is absorbing through his scholarship (possible, but hardly guaranteed) then I wouldn't begrudge it. That said, college sports as they are are, well, foolish. We would do better to establish sports academies for this exceptionally gifted in them, and train them for sports like we do for Olympic athletes, and leave colleges to their true mission: academic learning and research.
At 3:45, well we have to compete with the college down the street. How about you'll graduate with $15k less in student debt, but you have to go off campus for your rock wall
In a free market, college would be a transaction between a student and a university to buy productivity skills in exchange for a voluntary equilibrium price. When government funding gets involved, it becomes an excuse for taxing some people, giving the money to students, the students handing that same money to universities, and universities looking for ways to waste it.
What stuck me was at the college of my school dreams tuition went from 7,000 to 14,000 in four years! Sure I became a radio jockey at campus radio station had it’s finance head my senior year! The double of yearly tradition in four years (88-92) blew my mind!
I skipped college and get passed up on many jobs because I don't have a degree in anything showed no dedication or drive to accomplish a hard task. Been told that a few times in one way or another
My ex was given a budget of $30,000 to equip her office at UGA 25 years ago. She only needed a little over $8100. They said no, you have to spend it all or it will be cut next year. So she bought lots of stuff she didn't need. Multiply that little scenario by all the professors at all the colleges and you have your answer.
Quit bringing up all of your pesky facts. They just get in the way of people who want socialism. Thank you for all that you do! And never stop finding the truth!
Colleges could easily have all those fancy amenities without those huge tuition costs, they just don't care to shop around. Gotta spend that money fast so it looks like they are always tight on the budget... The college I attended has an amazing lap pool that is hardly utilized even during it's 4 total hours a day of open swim and the weight room has amazing new equipment that gets 1/1000th the use of something from a typical gym, and magically it's replaced every 2-3 years...
@@bloodstripeleatherneck1941 You're right but, I thought Stossel was too well reserved to burst out with "you liberals" at someone he's interviewing. Funny as fuck
I’m a junior in college studying mechanical engineering. I’m using my G.I. Bill after serving 4 years and currently a reservist. I got to travel a little bit in my early 20’s and live in and see parts of the world many never get to see and now I’m attending school for a degree that I hope will pay dividends in the long run.
John Stossel, can you please do something on if there are really people out there who “cant go to college because they can’t afford it because they or their family is too poor?” The reason I ask this is I had a conversation with someone who was being a victim telling me she couldn’t go to college because her family is poor, etc. BUT in my experience I got absolutely no tuition help from family either, I took out loans, earned a partial athletic scholarship and worked a job. I found some years my family made too much money to qualify for certain loans but that didn’t mean that could support me. I think it’s actually the middle class that sees the gap in support. Please do something around what is actually happening on this space!
Best quote on the subject: "No Banker, who values his job, would ever give a kid with no job, no assets, no plan, and no credit history an unsecured low interest $100K loan. This nonsense goes on because the Fed Govt guarantees that loan!"
@@aaa7189 Exactly. They are getting loans backed by tax dollars. Why would they care? Pay that loan back whenever. You don't need to worry about it until you stop going to college. Kids are encouraged to continue adding classes. That is why colleges have so many useless degrees now. Colleges don't care about a students success. A student does not pay back the loan. A college only cares about numbers (everyone must go). The reason college is so dam expensive is because of government. If you get rid of backed student loans and stop paying with everything by taxes colleges will have to start caring about quality over quantity. Some wont be able to go to college but that's life. This whole mess was pushed on the idea that "everyone must go" and the only way you could make everyone go is by paying for everyone. Only reason people like Obama pushed this nonsense is to expand government. They know it feeds the problem.. They can not be that stupid. Just like the lady defending it.. She has to defend it.. Its her job.
What is this "study" of which you speak? Are you referring, perhaps, to Gender Studies or Ethnic Studies? Because people in those majors certainly don't "goof off". They are consistently fighting the good fight against the straight-cis-white-male hegemonic patriarchy! Even when they're crying in their safe spaces. /s
I just got charged at my university for a COVID test, they did not ask for my insurance and proceeded to put a hold on my account. I could not register for my semester of classes because of the hold and the advisors were extremely rude to me when we finally just paid up. I called the health center and there were endless loops of answering machines but nobody to take my call.
I’d really like to know why students choose a particular school. Way back when I chose it was about the professors and the quality of education. We didn’t even tour the dining or community facilities because it didn’t matter.
*no-one forces you to take out loans. Pay back what you borrow. People in Japan know this, that's why they continued paying their debts after their housing bubble crashed in the 90s rather than protesting for handouts*
False. It’s not a bet if you research what degrees lead to what jobs. Pretty simple investment really. Obviously we as a country would be smart to reduce the price and teach students what their potential loans would mean
@Andrew Forrest Fine I will change my outlook to a degree on certain subjects that are have high demand but how much could you have learned without the classroom? To a point you couldn't go any further in your studies.
@@ssj4gogeta77 I agree lowering the price of admission should be number 1. But I'll relay my question to you as I did Andrew. How much of your studies could you have done without the classroom. Until you can't go any further in your studies to attaining your degree in your field ?
"We have to make sure college is available for everybody" So they can go get into debt, and eventually vote democrat for loan forgiveness. Brilliant! That lady you interviewed lives in wonderland. She refuses to consider your point of view even remotely.
That is why I love Blue Mountain College, in Blue Mountain MS they made a point to keep cost down, I didn't have anything fancy at all, but I went to a top ten college in the south.
Lol when I was in college my idea of fun was studying, playing cards, biking, and volunteering for habitat for humanity. Didn't do anything expensive, yet I had fun.
I graduated with an MS in 1995 and I worked my way through school. I also got student loans but I paid every one of them off (after some early years in the work world with much hardship). What they are proposing now to pay off all student loans infuriates me to no end. I could write an essay on how wrong and destructive that is to our society.
When they spend money on dumb shit because they know that people choose based on random amenities rather cost (since BASICALLY ANYONE can get student loans), it’s surprising why people can’t figure out why costs are exploding. Why not get a cheaper college and then choose to do karate on the side? Why does the school need a dojo? Everyone going there who doesn’t want to do karate is now paying for that. That just replicates for every other thing that gets added.
not only that but all those things, aren't they basically government funded businesses? If you had a water park near a uni, no student is going to visit your park anymore, because there is one on campus. If you have a restaurant, same thing.
Anything on campus not directly related to education should be paid for by user fees. This should drop the tuition for all students and then those services really wanted by students will become apparent. If the administrators make the wrong decisions you will easily be able to identify them by their huge mistakes and fire them.
Interesting comment by the tour guide (at 4:40). All the parents that go on the tour want to go back to college for all the new amenities. There seems to be a disconnect between the desire for all those amenities and why they're paying $30,000 a year for Junior's tuition. Sure isn't the Mizzou where I finished grad school in '95. I couldn't afford to go back these days.
"Colleges have been forced to cut to the bone!"
Meanwhile . . . .
"Here's our Jungle themed lobby, gym, spinning room, spa, rock climbing wall, cafeteria, lazy river . . . "
A college campus works as a temporary retirement place for young adults.
Silly Daniel the lazy river IS the bone
They cut the important stuff like limiting how much you can use the printer and teacher salaries (only hire adjunct and student teachers) but then waste money on recreation centers.
@@tomthumb6712 You're right, silly of me.
You forgot the safe place closets
The lady showing Stossel around the University of Missouri looked more like a hotel concierge than whatever she was supposed to be.
Whatever she is, she is not a diversity counselor. That's another non essential university job that pays 6 figures easily.
Total waste of money especially when Michelle Obama promoted it.
It is a resort!
I mean..... she was probably the rec. center concierge.
Nothing wrong with her, she shows the kids an awesome rec center so they will take out loans to attend there. Shes a saleslady.
She's getting paid by DemoKKKRats to sell DemoKKKRat brainwashing machines called "colleges". When over 90% of colleges vote DemoKKKRat, you know why prices go up.
"do you live in fantasy land?" *S A V A G E*
Glad to see you here ,Jake.
Love your videos 😀
They do, on our money!
Love your videos dude
They do and apparently it's jungle themed...
Those are not colleges, those are holiday resorts.
Think back to those kids who got those professors fired for the 'wrong' opinion on Halloween costumes:
"THIS IS OUR HOME. THIS IS THE PLACE WE COME TO TO FEEL SAFE!"
Speaking about college......
WIZZPL - They are not colleges, they are holiday resorts.
You're welcome (and correct, they're holiday resorts).
Holiday resorts with 80% of the staff being useless administrators.
Whatever happened to the 'starving student' philosophy where you tough it out so you can later truly appreciate and basque in the glory of success?
@@tundrellaCat68 Marxism
Vid: "What's important to any red-blooded, American college student?"
Me: Getting an education?
Vid: "Spring Break"
Me: I think I see your problem.
Why this comment doesn't have 1 million likes?
Many billions of dollars spent annually on higher education. Best part? The week without classes.
I'm not a professional economist, but that doesn't sound right to me.
I mean...she's not wrong. Obviously it's misplaced priorities for college students...but she's not wrong.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I couldn't believe it either. College is supposed to be furthering one's education and prepare them for the job market, not go to some spa or gym. Basically she dismissed her university as an establishment of education.
“Id like to know where all these Rock walls are”
Stossel: *shows more than 600 colleges with rock walls*
I would have like to seen her reaction
To an Obama shill, it means nothing.
I just looked up my alma mater state college , and they have a rock wall now. SURPRISE!!!
Those dont identify as rock walls tho...smh
Here in texas UT and A&M have impressive rockwalls used only by a few
I am a “non-traditional” student. When i went back too school i never had the TIME to use any of that “stuff”. I was too busy working, studying, and doing homework. No idea how these kids have the time.
because most are pampered upper middle class kids and rich kids the same kids that run antifa
@@AD-en5dq yes "protest capitalism" and later that evening, enjoy that lobster dinner after some rock climbing.
@@AD-en5dq hit the nail on the head bro. These fuckers are wayyyyyyyyy too entitled.
That's the trap: party hard on campus, chill out, fail a few subjects and you're now going to take an extra year or two to finish.
My brother failed a subject in his second year of a five year double degree, but the knock on effect was that he couldn't simply make it up, he ended up going a whole extra year.
His advice to me when I started was "if you think a subject is boring, it's even more boring the second time around".
True. When I was in school there was a different mentality as to why you are here and what this is all about between two classes of students. The first class was straight out of high school and University was a party. The second class was people from the military, returning students, and career changers. For this second class this was at University to gain marketable skills quickly and efficiently. They wanted to get back into the work force and earn money and pay off bills.
these aren't colleges or universities, but adult day-cares.
You nailed it on the head.
It's five star hotel with five star hotel price. Staying in your room to study is a waste of your money.
Don’t worry, most of them will revert to being children by the time they graduate.
You are being generous calling them adults. They are children refusing to grow up and extending their childhood on the backs of taxpayers, their parents or their future selves. The colleges are just predatory sleazy salespeople.
Marxist factories.
That is John Stossel's problem, he thinks logically.
He should go to college
fr, that lady was unbelievable
@@Post-Yap_Clarity he did
@@nickwilson3499 hes the only one that learned anything about REAL LIFE.
@@jakeinbed8133 She's a typical leftist, thinks with feelings not logic.
No the 4th R stands for “Ridiculous amounts of spending”
Actually it’s a 3rd “R.” Writing begins with a “W.” 🙄
The 3rd R is apparently w-"riting" now.
It’s the 2nd R cuz arithmetic is spelled with an A yall
@@TheBehm08 my first thought was that the education must not be worth it. Thousands of dollars for an education and they think arithmetic and writing start with an R?
It's the only R and it stands for retarded. No wonder kids are stupid nowadays, education isn't foremost.
But rather luxury spas... so that the college teachers can beat their meat to young girls bathing. I bet there are cameras everywhere...
“You wasted $150,000 on an education you coulda got for $1.50 in late fees at the public library.”
How do you like THEM apples!?
Mainly people and some companies want the diploma.
"That may be true.........But I'll have a Degree, and you'll be serving my kids fries on our way to the ski resort."
@@Tom-qp6oh Tom why so mean. Actually I'm working in a small business, I hate it. But I don't know what the future holds
@@Tom-qp6oh I hope your degree isn't in philosophy or sociology, because in that case you'll be the one serving fries for the rest of your life to pay back a student loan.
"Do you liberals live in a fantasy land?"
Yes, yes they do.
LOVE IT
C'mon c'om man
plenty of welfare capitalist corporations on the other side as well. It's not surprising that everyone loves to feed on the govt/tax payer trough.
Dont call them liberals they are leftiest
Don't call them liberal, call them leftists, remember liberals are the reason we have capitalism.
millenial: "30 years ago college was affordable"
Me: 30 years ago the dorms looked like barracks and the sandwich cart was considered luxury
I wish I could go to those colleges
What's your point? College is for learning, not rock climbing walls, at least if it's a public school. Private schools can do what they like.
All a college should provide is time with a lecturer and an accreditation document. That's it.
I don't care, I'll go through that a limited number of years, student debt is in many cases for life
40 years ago, I lived on vending machine coffee and cigarettes while on campus to save money.
That clip from joe Biden didn’t age so well... like literally all of his others.
Joe Biden didn't age well
Guy is so flip flop I'm not sure what policies he actually wants.
It aged as well as biden did.
The kids need to study attacafcare
HOW ON EARTH DID HE GET MORE VOTES THAN TRUMP?!
"Do you liberals live in fantasy land???" Love it!
I don't think I've ever seen Stossel pop off to someone's face like that, but I suppose he must've been frustrated to just see her blatantly lie about the data.
@@Eckster Ya, he went off, love this guy!
And with the wider availability, the diplomas have less and less value
Today's diplomas are not even worth the paper they are written on:
BS= BULL SHIT
MS= MORE SHIT
PHD = PILED HIGH AND DEEP
And it's not just the wider availability. Having taught at the college level, both at a community college and at a couple of graduate schools, there is a huge problem of grade inflation. The diplomas are valued more than the education by both the students and the administration.
A high school diploma was a big deal then no child was left behind and it was worthless. College degrees were a big deal then they created BS disciplines any high school graduate could pass and watered down the whole thing. Soon when everyone goes to college and there are quotas on races, genders, sexual identities and passing the same percentage of each they will be utterly worthless.
@@stuarthall3874 I've spent less time studying in some of my college classes than I did back in high school. I'm talking less than 10 hours spent on homework/studying for an entire course. My first two years were mostly memorize the powerpoint before the exam and here is your A. I eventually did choose to be responsible enough and put those extra hours into a full-time job that would actually give me some skills before graduating and help pay off my loans, but I'm sure most kids won't be willing to do that.
@@jacobg8640 I finished with an A+ in a class which gave every exam as an open note test, and which took every exam question directly off the study guide. I also spent the semester working in R&D for a telehealth company and will have a patent to show for it. One of these things means a lot more for employers...
Lefty: Show me the rock walls
Stossel: You activated my trap card
I hope he sent this video to that delusional unicorn
She said: tuition is going up, but it isn't going up persay .🙄🤣🤣🤣 I can't believe she opened her mouth to form that sentence. Lets you know the real worth of a "think tank" AKA "stink tank". Getting paid exorbitant amounts of money to formulate an opinion that wasn't wanted in the first place lol.
Thomas Sowell will say that's why you are not "intellectual".
Now we’re out here paying the same cost for online school. Glad I just transferred to a better school that’s also in person :)
With all the activities and extra curriculars on campus, those who chose an online education should pay half. Judging by what I see as far as the "educated" college graduates these universities are pumping out, I'd say they are all getting ripped off regardless.
My school decided this semester that all students had to leave campus and take online classes after Thanksgiving. The school also gave the choice to take every single class entirely online along with clubs. The primary benefit of a dorm to avoid a commute is entirely gone, you are there almost an entire month less, and my school STILL raised the dorm price from last Fall. And of course, the students are STILL willing to pay for it.
A luxury kindergarten for older kids, no wonder they get upset after leaving.
I’m doing community college but I’ll see wether it’s worth it myself
me too. government pays for mine, which is nice
You could start by spelling "whether" correctly ; )
@@andrewfreeman88 could care less, I just got done shoveling snow
@@andrewfreeman88 actually that is the correct spelling for that wether what you are thinking of is weather and that is what it's like outside
@@calvinmcneil9824 Google: define "wether"
Oxford: "wether is sometimes confused with weather and whether"
My economics teacher, a very wealthy businessman, once asked us how smart we thought we are. A minute later, he said I will tell you how smart you are; You pay me to tell you to read chapters 1 thru 4, You pay me to give you a test to make sure you read chapters 1 thru 4 and many of you will fail the test because you wouldn't read chapters 1 thru 4.
I'm going to a trades school, because it's certainly the most practical in my opinion
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ive been looking into it be even those can be a ripoff
Good call.. become a machine programmer or a welder.. $150k a year and you instantly have a job.
@@Verifraudreports I think your salary estimate is about $100k off
Edit: I agree if you're a pipeline welder traveling all the time or you're overseas, or even an underwater welder you'd probably be able to pull off $150k, but not if it's a local welding job.
@@Verifraudreports it also depends on the state you’re in or the country
Last year i was driving with my cousin. He is a surgeon. As we drove through the neighborhood of mansions he pointed to the biggest house on the street. He told me, the owner of this house is the guy who owns the landscaping company that cuts his grass. No college required. Just determination and hard work.
"Do politicians see the irony?" - that's an emphatic *NO*!
That leftist lady was so delusional.
They usually are
she was a smart capitalist. she new where her paycheck was coming from.
I think you’re delusional. It’s not a left or a right thing it’s a rich vs poor thing.
Going to college was the biggest mistake of my life. For most people, college is a waste of time and money.
College was right for me. I went back as an older student and worked my way through. Earned a Bachelors of Science in nursing & it’s been a great job!
@k henne Most people are too lazy to realize college is an investment. Get after it, no excuses.
I also thought it was a waste of my time and money. Because they only teach you one way and you are damned if you don't learn the way they teach.
@@isaacrockefeller225 yes, some of the classes are like that. some professors cannot tolerate a different answer even if it is just paraphrasing their original answer
I f**king hear THAT!
could at LEAST threw money away better😎
Government like everything it touches ruins it. Some things never change.
Went to a Community College and a big name University and I honestly have to say, I learned more and had a much better time in my local Community College.
Over the summer, I took a few courses at a local Community College. Some instructors would say they taught both there and at a nearby "Big Named University." They said there was little difference they are the same person using and same textbook for the same course. But consider the Community College cost only $50 a cr/hr Hr while "Big Named University" cost over $175 a cr/hr. In the end, the accrediting body requires that Calculus be Calculus.
Community College has saved me thousands of dollars. All of my friends went to university and I see them struggling financially. Just for the sake of “College Experience”. I feel that universities are packed with hardcore leftist/communist. Every corner a red fist lifting up.
I went to community, and for one of my art history classes I had the same professor as the 50k private college 25 minutes down the road. Lol. For one one hundredth the cost.
I graduated as high school valedictorian with a 4.2 GPA. I decided to matriculate at my local community college first anyway, despite being accepted to all universities I applied to and my mother thinking it's a "huge mistake." No regrets thus far.
Forgot to mention. My Community College has a Dean's List scholarship. If your GPA is 3.0 or above, then they waive the $50 cr/hr tuition. You still have to pay for your lab fees, expenses, and books. Yes, free tuition! It becomes rough holding/juggling a PT job plus school plus commute. Most schools will let you transfer up to 90 cr/hrs. Should you feel a bit of stigma about Community College don't put it on your resume; let you 4 year degree be there. It will be our secret. :-)
“Don’t politicians see the irony? No.”
Maybe some, SOME, do see the irony. That's why they do it. Think about it. How else are Commies in the government going to make people turn to them to take care of them?
By taking away their freedom to make a living that doesn't have to be a college based one, and making them broke. So, they have no choice, but to turn to the government for life.
John i really do enjoy your videos. Thank you for making them.
In the 90's / 2000's, I use to think "Who is this guy with the crazy mustache?". Now....I love him. Keep up the awesome work John Stossel!
To say that I'm salty about the cost of college is an understatement.
I’d love to see a breakdown of annual college budgets, especially for a lot of these state and Ivy-league schools. Large projects that required significant investments would also be an interesting impact on the school’s overall spending.
When I went to college here (Guatemala) everything was focused on LEARNING: no spa, no gym, no fancy dinner, no recreation centers, pool or other amenities - only good class rooms, laboratories, cafeteria and libraries.
This is the first time I've seen Stossel really get passionate in an interview
I mean he’s normally dealing with ideologues so he just plays devil’s advocate but this woman was blatantly lying so he had to switch it up
Bernie Sanders should listen to somebody smart like John Stossel! Most of them Dems and Socialists should!
Reading, Riting, Rithmatic, and Recreation... yup, the 4 R's...
I nearly lost it when I heard this.
I was looking for this comment. Should be #1
The best way to bring down the cost of ANYTHING is to stop paying unlimited amounts of money for it.
I used to have the three universities from which I obtained degrees in my will. Upon my demise, I would have bequeathed a portion of my lifetime earnings to those institutions. A few years ago, I toured the dorm in which I lived as an undergraduate. Now, none of those institutions will get a thin dime when I leave this vale of tears. To heck with them.
“What ultimately happens when you aim for equality is that A and B decide what C shall do for D; except that they take a little bit of a commission off on the way.” - Milton Friedman
I have been saying this exact thing for 20 years. Colleges were VERY affordable as recent as the 80s and early 90s. I remember paying $780 a quarter (so basically 2250 a year) in tuition at Georgia Tech in early 90s. The room and board and meal plan cost about the same as tuition. People once could afford to work a part time job and pay for tuition. Now a part time job would only pay for a few books and the meal plan for a semester. The tuition and room and board another $5000 - $10000 a semester at most state schools. nuts.
End, don't just reduced, but END ALL government subsidies. No a single government backed loan, not a single federal grant, nothing. Within HOURS you would see colleges offering free room and board and meal plans if you come to their school and pay tuition, that is suddenly reduced 50%. You would see a "buy the first year and we'll pay for the second year" deals, again, with greatly reduced costs (the colleges would be competing with each other by dropping costs constantly). We need everything on campus right-sized (lean and mean), including overpaid faculty that doesn't even teach in many cases (research, ie, sitting on their keisters writing books to make even more money).
If nothing else, ban any federal aid to schools whose non-faculty costs are more than triple faculty salaries. I may be way off, but find a reasonable percent and any college that has fancy rock walls and student centers full of luxuries and overbuilt resort dorms is cut off and if they fail, GOOD. That means a cheaper, back to just educating college will rise from those ashes.
Why do so many (not all) Democrats and leftists think MORE money will somehow control or reduce costs, when it's done nothing but encourage campus execs to lavishly spend on COMPLETELY unnecessary luxuries and non-education related amenities? All a student needs is a SMALL, but clean dorm room with a full size bed, a shower and restroom, reasonable and nutritious meals (not lobster or filet or truffles) and solid classrooms and faculty, nothing more.
My college didn't even have benches or picnic tables or anywhere to sit outside except steps. Our art studio shared space with aerobics. Sports used high school sports fields. But we were ranked #2 in nation for equine program
My son went to college. I paid for it. First thing I learned. Living in a dorm cost more then the education, along with books. He lived at home, and it was affordable. Also, most states allow, as well as it being free. High school student to take english 101, math 101, and history/government 101. At a community college, and have that count at credits for their first year of college. With them still being in High School. It's free for them. They go to their regular High School for the morning, and the community college in the afternoon. It eliminates paying for the first year of college, or the first 2 years, if they start as a junior on high school.
Government waste our money
Why can’t this story be in every home in America. It makes my face hurt how only a few people are seeing this!
"Are you liberals living in Fantasyland!!!!!!!" I love you John Stossel!!!
Thank you for pointing out the insane relative inflation of the cost of college. That is something that frustrates me when discussing college debt with many older people, they don’t seem to understand the drastic increase in the cost of attendance. When my boss entered our field his total student debt was just under the average first year salary, now it’s more than two times average first year salaries. Worse still there is still a pretty good percentage of people in my field with zero debt, take them out of the equation and the number goes to almost 4:1.
In 26 years of living the only thing I would go back and change would be never go to college. Biggest scam in the world.
you are an American hero John thanks for your great work!
SO BASICALLY A GIANT FANCY HOTEL WITH A CAFETERIA AND DESKS
My family is a true middle class white collar family. My mom is a masters level nurse and my dad is an occupational therapist. I was expected to go to school and not settle for anything less than a masters degree. Best thing that I did was wait until I knew what I wanted. I didn't go to my university until the age of 23/24. I worked the whole time. I missed a lot of community events and such. But now I get to do whatever I want because I graduated with an undergraduate degree debt free. I am half way through my Masters program debt free. My family is proud and I appreciated my education way more than my classmates because I had to work for that education.
And a big thing I wish people understood, you do not need a campus for a community experience. There are so many social groups you can get involved with (whether hobby related, volunteer, sports related etc.) that you can find and be a part of. I guarantee you that most people stop talking to all but 10 or so of their "friends" from college. I wish we stopped treating college as simply an extended form of high school, it is stunting the development of people into responsible adults by pushing them into more school no matter the cost.
I work on a college campus and I am here to tell you, when budgets are "cut" it only affects staff salaries and hiring, not faculty. Building and renovations go on just like before.
stossel is a hero and a champion to logic in these sad times.
“Do you liberals live in fantasy land?”
Absolute fucking legend. I love John.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THESE VIDEOS!! Liberals solution to problems caused by government intervention is MORE government intervention. For those of you who have not heard of the Libertarian Party, it is a PERFECT forever home for those of us that think logically about economics and value our personal freedom.
Stossel was about to BEEF with that lady lmaaaao. I haven't seen him lose his cool.
I graduated from a community college two years ago. I had federal aid for the 2.5 years I was there. I had to take out a loan for the first year. It was $5,500. I was blessed with a scholarship my last two semesters. The scholarship covered my entire tuition and yet I STILL received federal funding. I was being paid by the government to go to school. Which was nice, because I used the federal money to pay back a portion of my loan. Also I’m student debt free as of last Saturday!!! Community college/trades are so much better.
Spring break every time you step into the rec center? I'll go into 100k student loan debt for that!!! Lolol
I go to a private university. Only way I got in was my full sports scholarship. I have no debt and will graduate with no debt this up coming semester. Blessed.
Not necessarily blessed. If you're pulling decent grades (B/A) while still being an athlete, *and* getting a worthwhile degree (hopefully something STEM or maybe Education, otherwise probably not), then you made wise choices and have a good work ethic.
Which, I guess, is a blessing of its own, but one at least in part of your own making.
I guess the paying students are charged more to carry the weight of the sports "scholorships."
@@rons5319 They are also charged more to carry the weight (pun intended) of updated sports training locations and equipment.
However, if Connor is both pulling his own weight academically AND bringing in more money to the school by ticket sales and merchandising than he is absorbing through his scholarship (possible, but hardly guaranteed) then I wouldn't begrudge it.
That said, college sports as they are are, well, foolish. We would do better to establish sports academies for this exceptionally gifted in them, and train them for sports like we do for Olympic athletes, and leave colleges to their true mission: academic learning and research.
At 3:45, well we have to compete with the college down the street. How about you'll graduate with $15k less in student debt, but you have to go off campus for your rock wall
But then they couldn't charge the students $3k a piece for a PE class in rock climbing.
Heck with the rock wall. Just climb the outside of a campus building. Way more epic, and it's FREE.
In a free market, college would be a transaction between a student and a university to buy productivity skills in exchange for a voluntary equilibrium price. When government funding gets involved, it becomes an excuse for taxing some people, giving the money to students, the students handing that same money to universities, and universities looking for ways to waste it.
It's almost like government gets involved then everything goes sideways...
What stuck me was at the college of my school dreams tuition went from 7,000 to 14,000 in four years! Sure I became a radio jockey at campus radio station had it’s finance head my senior year! The double of yearly tradition in four years (88-92) blew my mind!
I wish I had skipped college. I'm glad for the degree I guess but it's done nothing for me but burdened me with debt.
It's just about that credential. You've set yourself. apart from the unwashed masses, but no more.
What degree may i ask?
I skipped college and get passed up on many jobs because I don't have a degree in anything showed no dedication or drive to accomplish a hard task. Been told that a few times in one way or another
My ex was given a budget of $30,000 to equip her office at UGA 25 years ago. She only needed a little over $8100. They said no, you have to spend it all or it will be cut next year. So she bought lots of stuff she didn't need. Multiply that little scenario by all the professors at all the colleges and you have your answer.
Quit bringing up all of your pesky facts. They just get in the way of people who want socialism.
Thank you for all that you do! And never stop finding the truth!
John, you outstanding American journalist, you! 👏 👏 👏
Today I learned that my college has a rock wall
In still waiting for mine.
Colleges could easily have all those fancy amenities without those huge tuition costs, they just don't care to shop around. Gotta spend that money fast so it looks like they are always tight on the budget... The college I attended has an amazing lap pool that is hardly utilized even during it's 4 total hours a day of open swim and the weight room has amazing new equipment that gets 1/1000th the use of something from a typical gym, and magically it's replaced every 2-3 years...
Idk what that woman said off camera but Stossel was losing his shit
She's shamelessly lying to his face on camera to keep the scam going. She's absolutely disgusting.
@@bloodstripeleatherneck1941 You're right but, I thought Stossel was too well reserved to burst out with "you liberals" at someone he's interviewing. Funny as fuck
I’m a junior in college studying mechanical engineering. I’m using my G.I. Bill after serving 4 years and currently a reservist. I got to travel a little bit in my early 20’s and live in and see parts of the world many never get to see and now I’m attending school for a degree that I hope will pay dividends in the long run.
Government intervention makes everything more expensive.
I first saw this video in a high school economics class when it was new. 8 years ago, how time flies.
Same I was 17 years old. That’s why I decided Christian colleges .
The professions that require college degrees are ever increasing.
I hear that pharmacists now need P.H.D.s.
John Stossel, can you please do something on if there are really people out there who “cant go to college because they can’t afford it because they or their family is too poor?” The reason I ask this is I had a conversation with someone who was being a victim telling me she couldn’t go to college because her family is poor, etc. BUT in my experience I got absolutely no tuition help from family either, I took out loans, earned a partial athletic scholarship and worked a job. I found some years my family made too much money to qualify for certain loans but that didn’t mean that could support me. I think it’s actually the middle class that sees the gap in support. Please do something around what is actually happening on this space!
community college or trade school is the way to go.
Community College is uneccesary... It's just reliving 13 years of high school in two years.
Trade school is very important.
Keep up the great reports
"Pamper, marinate, and indoctrinate"
Best quote on the subject: "No Banker, who values his job, would ever give a kid with no job, no assets, no plan, and no credit history an unsecured low interest $100K loan. This nonsense goes on because the Fed Govt guarantees that loan!"
as cool as those places look to stay for vacation, they are offset by the need to actually study what you go for and not goof off all the time.
If we get "free tuition" colleges will be a party time
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Exactly.
They are getting loans backed by tax dollars. Why would they care?
Pay that loan back whenever. You don't need to worry about it until you stop going to college. Kids are encouraged to continue adding classes.
That is why colleges have so many useless degrees now. Colleges don't care about a students success. A student does not pay back the loan. A college only cares about numbers (everyone must go). The reason college is so dam expensive is because of government. If you get rid of backed student loans and stop paying with everything by taxes colleges will have to start caring about quality over quantity. Some wont be able to go to college but that's life. This whole mess was pushed on the idea that "everyone must go" and the only way you could make everyone go is by paying for everyone. Only reason people like Obama pushed this nonsense is to expand government. They know it feeds the problem.. They can not be that stupid. Just like the lady defending it.. She has to defend it.. Its her job.
If free tuition becomes a reality, it ought to be much, MUCH more harder to get into college than it is today.
@@vipneat7265 They would cry then, having to make a effort
What is this "study" of which you speak? Are you referring, perhaps, to Gender Studies or Ethnic Studies? Because people in those majors certainly don't "goof off".
They are consistently fighting the good fight against the straight-cis-white-male hegemonic patriarchy!
Even when they're crying in their safe spaces.
/s
I just got charged at my university for a COVID test, they did not ask for my insurance and proceeded to put a hold on my account. I could not register for my semester of classes because of the hold and the advisors were extremely rude to me when we finally just paid up. I called the health center and there were endless loops of answering machines but nobody to take my call.
College is the second-biggest rip off in this country. (The biggest rip-off is, of course, Social Security.)
Both are enormous Ponzi Schemes!
Finally, a video that expresses my viewpoint on ending student debt!
2:20 this could mean that state funding towards schools has gone down per student. while state funding towards students has gone up per student
I’d really like to know why students choose a particular school. Way back when I chose it was about the professors and the quality of education. We didn’t even tour the dining or community facilities because it didn’t matter.
And when they graduate, they want this lifestyle in the workplace and expect employers and society to be accommodating to their desires.
Make sure you will have their safe spaces
I wish more people would hear this!
"There's no evidence that college loans or any type of student aid increases tuition."
-Someone that clealy doesn't understand economic incentives
*no-one forces you to take out loans. Pay back what you borrow. People in Japan know this, that's why they continued paying their debts after their housing bubble crashed in the 90s rather than protesting for handouts*
College= Sucker's bet.
And p.s the library is free to study whatever you want.
False. It’s not a bet if you research what degrees lead to what jobs. Pretty simple investment really. Obviously we as a country would be smart to reduce the price and teach students what their potential loans would mean
@Andrew Forrest Fine I will change my outlook to a degree on certain subjects that are have high demand but how much could you have learned without the classroom? To a point you couldn't go any further in your studies.
@@ssj4gogeta77 I agree lowering the price of admission should be number 1. But I'll relay my question to you as I did Andrew. How much of your studies could you have done without the classroom. Until you can't go any further in your studies to attaining your degree in your field ?
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Thank you John Stossel
"We have to make sure college is available for everybody" So they can go get into debt, and eventually vote democrat for loan forgiveness. Brilliant! That lady you interviewed lives in wonderland. She refuses to consider your point of view even remotely.
That is why I love Blue Mountain College, in Blue Mountain MS they made a point to keep cost down, I didn't have anything fancy at all, but I went to a top ten college in the south.
Lol when I was in college my idea of fun was studying, playing cards, biking, and volunteering for habitat for humanity. Didn't do anything expensive, yet I had fun.
I graduated with an MS in 1995 and I worked my way through school. I also got student loans but I paid every one of them off (after some early years in the work world with much hardship). What they are proposing now to pay off all student loans infuriates me to no end. I could write an essay on how wrong and destructive that is to our society.
I love how that demos woman kept lying with a straightface.
I took a walk through the recent renovations at the University of South Alabama, he is right on the mark.
When they spend money on dumb shit because they know that people choose based on random amenities rather cost (since BASICALLY ANYONE can get student loans), it’s surprising why people can’t figure out why costs are exploding.
Why not get a cheaper college and then choose to do karate on the side? Why does the school need a dojo? Everyone going there who doesn’t want to do karate is now paying for that. That just replicates for every other thing that gets added.
not only that but all those things, aren't they basically government funded businesses?
If you had a water park near a uni, no student is going to visit your park anymore, because there is one on campus.
If you have a restaurant, same thing.
Anything on campus not directly related to education should be paid for by user fees. This should drop the tuition for all students and then those services really wanted by students will become apparent. If the administrators make the wrong decisions you will easily be able to identify them by their huge mistakes and fire them.
Interesting comment by the tour guide (at 4:40). All the parents that go on the tour want to go back to college for all the new amenities. There seems to be a disconnect between the desire for all those amenities and why they're paying $30,000 a year for Junior's tuition. Sure isn't the Mizzou where I finished grad school in '95. I couldn't afford to go back these days.