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If you (socialists) build it, they (capitalists) will come and ruin it with their greed. ok..... so how do the socialists prevent this? and where are the socialists building this?
we do have tuition fees, the government is just the one that pays them for Scottish students and because the government negotiates the price per Scottish student, our universities have been successfully negotiating for permission to accept less and less Scottish applicants over much more profitable foreign students. We have the exact same problem bro, how many years in a row have we had lecturers striking? how many actually Scottish students have you seen? In fact when I didn't stop badgering the people at st andrews for a clear reason as to why I didn't get in despite literally being identical to their "optimal applicant" they eventually just admitted to me that they had already accepted enough Scottish students to keep the government happy that year and that because of a clerical error the previous year causing them to accept more Scottish students than intended, they had successfully negotiated with the government to take even LESS Scottish students in the year I was applying. They still don't care about us, they still care more about their margins, they are still a problem
unfortunately in England we have to pay around 9000 quid per year just for the course. We have to pay separate for rent, gym membership, etc. The government has made it easy for us to get in to uni which is nice but ultimately we are just paying to get a degree and be unemployed lmao.
And benefit to companies too. They don't have to teach all their workers, or figure out which ones learn well, which ones will grasp the concept well, which ones will find the topic fascinating and choose to advance further in the field. The cheaper and better the education and the more people get it. The more and better choice for employees they have.
Exactly....but right wing conservetards don't get that. They think selfishly...why should I have to pay for someone else's education or healthcare. But they have no problem paying for corporate tax cuts, maintaining an evil globe spanning empire or funding genocide. It's completely insane.
A Reagan advisor literally talking about making college harder to attain because they were worried about an “educated proletariat” - that sounded so crazy unbelievable I had to look it up. But it’s true.
The bourgeoisie is aware of and understands class war much better than us, and they are hell-bent on keeping themselves on power by any means necessary.
There's quite a bit of US history that sounds so batshit insane on paper, that it sounds unbelievable, but turns out to be real. From all of the coups we've thrown, to COINTELPRO, to things like MK Ultra.
The Neocons were/are elitists with low intellect. George W. Bush is a good example...someone who is touted as a "businessman," has a high social position merely because he was born into money and has an Eye-Q around 90. Most of them are like that. Take away their money and they would be selling ginzu knives on the Home Shopping Network.
As an educator, I hate this so much and I see it everyday. I got into this field because I believe in expanding knowledge. They know that educators dedicate their time and talents to the field, which means that it's hard for us to leave or get a job transfer because a lot of jobs think our skills are only good for educating. That leads to teachers having to stick around and take part time positions that pay so much less and have less stability. And most college have adjunct professors as "non-negotiable." You essentially have no power and have to swallow the criminally low payment. I get paid more an hour to tutor students than I do to teach them in a university. It's sad.
@@RebeccaOre That would have caused me to start throwing things. So sorry they did that to you! I just went to a meeting where they were telling us how they need their adjunct and I was just like "money and stability talks better than your speeches, thanks."
@whatever6223 I wish I could. Sadly, the place where I tutor doesn't have enough hours for me to go full time. Really, I'm just in a terrible state for education. Adjuncts here make below the national average per course.
I would push back a little by suggesting it's important to know that Reagan, Thatcher and the likes were players in that history, but they were simply following the logic of the system. The whole reason they ended up in those positions, and that the neoliberal hell that has followed was the option they went for in that historical moment, was that capital has to find new ways of subjecting new avenues to commodification, keeping its falling rate of profit up, and so on. There is a great short video (provocatively) titled "Why neoliberalism was necessary" by channel adu on this subject. As always, it's about the system, not individuals.
When I was growing up in the 1980s UK, America felt more distant than today. I have a distinct memory that as a kid, I didn't fully know the difference between the two most famous Ronalds in the world, and had an argument at school where I INSISTED that the President of the USA was called Ronald McDonald. I now realise I was at least half right, as the President was certainly a clown...
Not a public college but my university had mass layoffs to not go bankrupt the same year it bragged about enrollment being up and suggested a bright future.
I'm from BD and I'll be honest, this reeks of a US backed coup. The new government is filled with NGO and US affiliated people. The genuine protests in the beginning may have later been hijacked by US parties, as is what often happens in Global South countries. BD also rejected a US attempt at getting military bases onto our St. Martin island last year, which may have something to do with it.
Something that’s ridiculous to me as an incoming freshman is how much universities spend on “fun” (attention grabbing, student attracting) things. It reminds me of google installing slides in the offices rather than paying employees fairly. Sure, it might be fun, but eventually the novelty will wear off and you’ll realize that the minimum million dollar gaming room only drew funds from your education and increased tuition, so you’re left with immense debt for a subpar education.
Allen Ginsberg described college and universities as old age homes for the young. And all non-major classes are taught by graduate students or adjuncts. The highest paid professors are people who might teach one or two classes a year but who are draws since they're people the people applying to graduate school may have heard of. Someone described Virginia Tech MFA in writing program as Nicki Giovanni and a bunch of people she'd never heard of.
And when you finish school and enter the workforce, your employer will throw you quarterly pizza parties to boost morale. Just like the ones from third grade.
@@brianbachmeier34 State funding through taxes, like every other modern nation does it. Edit: to everyone who feels the need to send me a "then it's not free," obviously not. "Free" is widely understood to be "free at the point of service" in contexts like this. Your nitpick adds nothing to the conversation.
I'm 29 and at community college. I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have half of *that* (30 credits). When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance. But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom. She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away. The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom. Screw this POS country
I'm sorry for your troubles. Welcome to America. Where there is enough money to maintain a brutal global empire & fund genocide, but not for education.
@@monash4250I believe poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity. The EITC cut child poverty in half overnight, but those benefits expired.
@@TheAzul_Indigo Well then, it's time for dominance hierarchies, and especially the dominance hierarchies that make up capitalism to bite the dust... at least if we want humanity not to be sent to its demise early.
Countries that have free tuition: Argentina, Austria, Brazil*, the Czech Republic*, Denmark, Egypt, Finland*, France, Germany*, Greece*, Iceland*, Kenya*, Luxembourg*, Malaysia, Morocco, Norway*, Panama*, Poland, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Turkey, and Uruguay. * The asterisks indicate countries that even provide free tuition to American students!
@@tomasbisciak7323No no, it's paid for "by the growth", you know, like when conservatives ram through another tax cut for multi-millionaires, and liberals say "but how will we cover this", and conservatives grin and reply, "it's paid for by the growth in our economy, that all these Job Creators are going to spur on, because they don't have to pay taxes". So yes Tom, it's paid for by the growth.
@@tomasbisciak7323 For the country its an investment. What else has germany to offer if not highly educated people? Nothing. And i think theey do not invest enough into education tbh. THe only reason germany plays a role is because of past work. Soon they won't be able to hold their amount of wealth unless they care about education.
I am from Kenya and education is no longer free all parents must pay something if you have the time look at the new funding model for university students that we have in kenya
OMG I feel so attacked. I am a lifelong CA resident. I was in high school in the early 2000s,. After community college and a period of just working, I went to finish my last 2 years of my BA at UCD in Fall 2008. Your description of the massive increase in tuition over a very short period of time was very much a real experience for me. Let's also not forget that this time period included the Great Recession, so on top of tuition increases, the job market and housing market tanked as well. By 2020, my wife and I had almost recovered financially from all that...just in time for the pandemic to hit. What a time to be alive.
There are many tricks to shift wealth from the working class to the wealthy. But many things said in this video and in the comments are wrong or I disagree with. The left has many things it needs to change before I stand with it.
So you witnessed the impact of Clinton guaranteeing student loans to those with no income or credit. The universities started rapidly raising tuition exactly as had been predicted.
Ironically you've got clowns like Charlie Kirk & Ben Shapiro calling College a scam, despite the fact they went to college & make a living speaking at them.
The real scam is that these tech startups with ping pong rooms actually buy all those ping pong rooms to further justify the higher income gap of people who graduate, allowing these forced purchases to keep education less accessible to more people. Tech startups are like zoo for college graduates to feed on eucalyptus.
In regards to the last segment of the video, Paulo Freire states very well in his book “the pedagogy of the oppressed” quote “When education is not liberating, the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor”, which I believe is a very interesting thing for one to ponder on..
Most European countries don't have sports as part of the average university sponsored experience. If you're going to be a footballer, you learn how to do that, having learned how before college/university. I applied to and didn't attend a college that made attending the "football" home games mandatory.
@@RebeccaOre Do you mean "participate"? Attendance implies you _aren't_ playing the game but watching it; participation implies you're the one playing it.
I'm a scientist at a major university. You should see the percentage of our grants they take for "overhead and indirect costs". Now a lot of universities are not allowing advancement if you don't get a grant. We are basically being forced to pay to work
also a research scientist -- basically the expectation now is that you will bring in enough grant "overhead" to cover your salary and benefits - so none of your salary is coming from tuition -- all that money goes to administrators. 35 years ago there were three professors for every administrator at my university -- now there are more full-time administrators than full-time faculty.
Not to mention the university will take a large percentage from any patent you file. Makes you wonder what all the supposed benefits scientists are getting for the amount of investment and prestige they are bringing to the university
I study in one of France’s best universities and I pay 170€ (~185$) per year, I simply cannot wrap my head around the astonishing price of tuition in the US…
I can't speak for all states, but in Texas, they have transitioned professorships into adjunct positions. They have also created non-tenerned positions. This was done to not provide benefits and stability of their staff. Let's not forget that K-12 education has become a business model, and local school boards/governments have allowed big businesses into education through education software and publishing. Many legislators do not work in education in any capacity, yet they are gutting the system to pass students through. By the time students get to university, there is a lot of remediation in math, English, and writing. Imagine that.
This is common across all schools from community colleges to big research universities. It is the reason that i left the track of professor/ instructor to industry/ sales
Exactly. 70% of all high school graduates enter college WITHOUT the basic skills in reading, writing, or math. I used to teach the remedial writing courses at a community college. It never ceased to amaze me of what kids did NOT know when entering my class. How do you go through 12 years of school and not know how to use a period?
Yh I studied in Germany & even tho I had gone to the 2nd best HS in my home state, taken all the classes for their strict requirements & gotten good grades, & achieved the ridiculously high min ACT score, I was still SO far behind many of my classmates. I didn't graduate. Many ppl put so much pressure on themselves & don't realize it's all crap anyway
a similar situation in india! Imagine for a moment you're appearing for an entrance exam for a medical degree. you waste 2 years of your youth grinding night and day for this exam along with 2.3 million other aspirants, all with the same goal: Admission into a government medical college. why? because the tuition is lower. To be specific, aiims delhi charges a measely 70 bucks for 5 years for an mmbs program. sounds good right? oh wait. there are only 6000 seats in the whole nation which are in government medical colleges. 2,300,000. 6000. what about the rest? well, they have to enter in a private institution of course. god damn it the fees is more than 95 percent of the populations annual income. Then we indians worry about not having enough doctors per capita. its a business. a business which destroys students.
My condolences go out to India. For being such a rich, diverse, and beautiful country, you guys suffer from many issues that you shouldn't have to. It hurts to see so many people who could potentially live good lives be inhibited by economic woes. It would be awesome to see governments not be so scared of helping their people for once and actually finding more education so that people can lead healthier, fulfilling, and productive lives, while this pays back into the nation. As a P.S.: I've heard that India is backwards and contradicting in quite a few ways, which is a fun mess. Then again, so is the U. S. of A! I wish you luck, and hope for the best for you.
In 1974 I paid $92 a semester for full time at CSUN. This included the best health care I ever had as well as access to the most wonderful teachers and libraries and other resources. There was a van that would drive us to the medical center from the college. This lasted for four years.
@whatever6223 Regulating capitalism is a self-defeating proposition. Regulation goes against the interests of the very people with the power to regulate it.
Put a registration on thing that actually matters, and see 10k dallor magical appear in some congress member's bank account and regulations dissappear.
I'm surrounded by boomers that live in a vacuum on this subject, Israel, and the border. My parents are against student debt forgiveness. They feel it's unfair when they worked hard to pay for school and today's generation just didn't make good decisions with planning ahead to pay for school. They don't have any concept if what changed in the country in the last 30 years. Same goes for their beliefs on housing. They don't have the interest in understanding what a first time home buyer deals with now, since they are comfortable having multiple homes they enjoy seasonally now in retirement.
The irony there is that their education has failed them... they can't even understand the gradeschool level math to figure out why the thing they're saying is incredibly stupid.
I was in graduate school in China for two years, and they had a really strange system: they charged about $1200 in the name of tuition, and then after about a month or so, they sent that money back in the form of a scholarship, not one cent less. At first I thought it was a reward for good grades, but then I found that all my classmates had their money back. They also offer interest-free loans for poor students who can't afford the initial $1200. The whole "tuition" thing is almost like performance art. It's like someone thinks they should charge tuition, but not really. Very strange, but in a good way.
Universities in Germany are generaly state funded and basically charge no or only a small tuition fee, which is primarily meant to make sure that students actually attend lectures. Plus it comes with some free-bees like free public transport in the area or free or reduced cost entrance to places like museums, cultural venues or physical activities like swimming in a public swimming pool.
My brother went overseas to study there and said it was so cheap they had to add some years to complete limits at his because people would enroll just to get the reduced train fair for commuting to work
Nowadays a bachelor's degree is about as useful as a high school diploma was in the 70s and 80s. In most fields nowadays you need at least a Master's degree for any real salary growth.
I disagree, in general a Masters is as useful as a chocolate frying pan. Most jobs need a bachelors and research and teaching mostly need a doctorate. Masters is just the middle step in between and other than teaching at community colleges there isn't much you can do with one.
Once you prove how hard you can work, they will continue to expect you to work just as hard. The whole concept of working hard now so you can chill later is a scam.
@@quixomega I actually was able to get my job thanks to having a master's degree. In the physical sciences you need at least a masters degree to get any research position as a bachelor's will not cut it. Doctorate of course will always be required to get advancement.
Such a great video. I always wondered why universities had such large endowments but never any money for professors. Have a feeling this is exacatly whats happening in healthcare
My son is in the Penn State system and is a first year CS student. Annual cost is $30K about. I asked him about his first year Computer Science course. And he told me that there is no professor/instructor. Lectures are pre-recorded.....there are TAs that help with problem sets that accompany each "lecture". Basically we're paying full tuitiion for a MOOC.
And the best way to reduce recidivism is to give the prisoners preparation for real jobs and careers on the outside. "But that's coddling prisoners," the people drowning in college debt say. Both need decent education. As for prisoners, the punishment is taking away a person's freedom, not turning them out at the end of their sentence without skills in something other than crime.
@@RebeccaOre we make them work dirt cheap in lock up, but the companies they make products for rarely hire them to work the same damn job they did in incarceration. I’m looking at you Costco, Dollar Tree…
Not only that, but the average cost of incarceration per prisoner or detainee far exceeds the average college education cost. Goes to say that public policy is tailored to serve the wealthy who wants public money spent on its security. There are successful models of confinement around the world where inmates are housed in humane conditions educated and trained to lead an honorable life. They live in very large areas almost like gated communities and they have a productive daily routine that in some cases exceeds the ordinary average routine enjoined by the average citizen. Of course punitive incarceration is not a good idea although some people deserve to experience painful solitude for crimes they inflicted on others as a way to bring them back to their moral conscience, but long incarceration serves no good purpose. Free education is what remains of human civilization and if we have enough money for bombs, prisons, and corporate bailouts, we should have money for education.
@@dalisabe62 agreed, and shorter term for less serious crimes is alive and well in other countries and it seems to be ok. As a listener of true crime from all around the world, I hear how appalled some people are for how short certain sentences are in out of US prisons. We love to lock up long here. I’d rather have a rehabilitated ex con living next to me rather than a disgruntled one thank you very much!
My neighbor had a little get together with his coworkers and some of us neighbors. They’re all high school teachers. They were talking about how a fair amount of kids now a days are going for trade schools instead of college by default. With year after year of stories of college grads unable to find any significant work, we might be seeing the start of the change. Or maybe this is just an anomaly and nothing changes.
It will only change if the poor organize together and act in their collective interest. Otherwise education will be what it was before the industrial revolution. A playground for the children of the already rich to maintain their class status.
Sadly it would have to be massive amounts dropping or some laws to add consequences to universities not enrolling enough in-state/in-region students. Or jobs stop requiring bachelors + experience for entry or good old boys networking. The way the system is set up they will fly in overseas students who come from more competitive countries like India and want the chance to work and go to school here. Possibly not realizing maybe how much they are being exploited. Normally I think immigration and international studies are good, but if it’s used as an alternative for universities actually providing fair service it’s not great. If USA colleges start to lose reputation and credibility long term (which I believe we are starting to see happen to some like Harvard), hopefully it will hurt the colleges enough as students chose to go to other countries that they will be forced to reevaluate
I graduated in 1972. Was easy to work part time and pay tuition. The argument for increase in tuition in Michigan was that Medicaid caused tne necessary tuition increases so the state budget could stay balanced. However, the college administration tripled in size and reduced teacher staff. They needed the extra staff to process the student loans! This is a country wide problem and needs to be stopped.
I love how colleges become more expensive and then require people to either go broke and drown in debt or apply for a scholarship and pray you're considered smart enough or a good fit to get it.
My Great Uncle always tells me that he didn’t have to spend money on tuition and neither should anyone else. He’s a fun person to talk to, makes me feel like being old doesn’t mean I’ll automatically be out of touch
thanks JT for providing videos and essays that have led me to become aware of class consciousness. It's honestly amusing just how diametrically opposed the interests of the majority and the interests of the rich are. It's like they can't even control themselves and want to quash any method of a common person to elevate their living standards to be above dirt poor.
An honest person would see that America is much closer to the worst country in the world. But many patriotic Americans are too biased to realize reality
As a uni prof (at a private uni), I can attest to seeing this financialization happen over the past 20 years at my institution. It’s depressing and demoralizing for faculty and a major reason i am retiring early compared to peers. Thank you for detailing this ruination of American giver education.
One of the few things I can really be proud of is refusing to be a scab when Western Michigan University tried to replace its custodial staff due to strikes. When I was told I got the job, and told me to be there the following morning at 6am when their call came after 8pm, I told them I found out about the strike and hung up on them.
I'm with the opinion that all education should be free. We'd be a lot further along as a society if people actually had access to education without having to worry about whether or not they could pay back a massive student loan.
They want a competitive job market of ruthlessness. They'll try to strong arm break throughs. But even discoveries in labs are driven by capitalist wants and direction.
The question you actually should be asking are "why a country doesn't want it's workers discovering and aggregating real value in their work force and critically thinking about the concentration of resources and capital
Oh no, conservatives do not want educated free-thinkers as evidenced by their ongoing push to eliminate “soft”/social sciences and their attendant bleating about DEI, etc.
This is a sharp point that universities work like insurance companies--students pay tuition (premium) more to insure themselves against a lower paying career path, and less to get actual education; at the same time, universities use the premium to invest and to borrow more money. It's even more like the insurance model as the students, just like insureds, are not guaranteed to get the 'payouts'. The universities do not need to promise that a student will always get financial/career rewards if they choose to get educated there. It's a good deal, but it's standing on thin ice.
Then that's why it needs to change where if the student isn't guaranteed for a good job then it should not be a guarantee that the money be replaced from that student. But you guys aren't ready for that
God I love this channel! Every episode is a cathartically honest, studiously concise, digestable exposure of the woes of our world. Very important work, that is well made. Great job and much, much gratitude, Second Thought :)
I did actually manage to pay my student loans off, but only because I started before I was out of school and paid every week. Still took 8 and 1/2 years.
Wait, Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a policy that made Public Schools Privatize their incomes!? But... he grew up in Austria, a country with fairly affordable Higher Education...
he fully embraced the "amercian" way (and the rupublican american way to be more exact. i.e. "i'm rich, screw all the others"). when he comes back to visit austria they often do an interview with him, but he can't even speak a halfway decent german anymore. he's barely intelligigble.
If you live in 2024, with all the information you can have about the history and inner workings of class society, there is no excuse for still holding the genuinely surprised liberal "gee, if only those misunderstood people in the political and economic elite realised things" position.
A famous Italian historian once said “revolution happens when people are starting to get better so they want more”, as someone already said if you keep people busy paying their debts and having to think about survival, they won’t rebel because they have more imminent problems.
They get that! In fact, that's part of the point. They want you to be so overburdened with debt that you are terrified of doing any kind of resistance, that you will accept lower wages, and that you will accept harsh treatment/no rights at work.
Medical debt can be discharged by bankruptcy and one's tools of trade and primary residence are protected unless the person signs away those rights as one hospital in Virginia, now out of business, did for anyone using the emergency room without insurance. College loans cannot be discharged in bankruptcy.
My school (University of Tennessee, Knoxville) just announced a new “entertainment district” with a private luxury hotel, restaurant, and retail space. Guess what they went up on EVERYTHING. Here’s the kicker, they want to demolish the largest commuter parking garage to help build it. In the original press release they said “No parking will be lost.” (It 200% BS). So they are destroying a public good for private business to come in; not one iota of good will come to the students from this project. I plan to join, or organize, a protest to this atrocity.
Man, oh man. It took me over eight years to graduate without any debt because I was working full-time. My wife works for a university, and she gets paid almost nothing. Her department is always short-staffed, and they constantly rely on student workers. I remember, before graduation, they were begging us to vote for another student center building, even though the main one is always empty. The president of the university is always kissing up to billionaires, building extravagant stadiums with their names on them, while the academic buildings are falling apart. There’s a reason you see so many foreigners teaching at the school-because they pay so poorly and take advantage of them. I remember my professor doing tons of research because the school wanted it to secure more funding.
"Education is a social good. We need people getting access to higher education." That right there is the issue and the problem. The Owner Class (quoting George Carlin there), doesn't want that. They want people just capable enough to perform basic tasks to support their profits. An educated worker/middle class is anathema to their interests.
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Here in Canada, federal student loans won't lend you enough to cover tuition, books, and living expenses. So, lower income students are forced to attend part-time while they work. This means it takes longer to attain a degree and you are on average older when you enter your field. Most professors are inflexible with the due dates and times for assignments, so if your paper is due during the middle of a work shift you either have to submit early and lose research time or submit late and lose a letter grade. Either way, you get the short end of the stick.
in 1969 i attended UCSC as a freshman. from out of state. my yearly tuition was $750. (three quarters at $250 each.) i don't know what the current tuition is, but i'll wager it's WAY PAST what inflation would predict.
Im not a california resident or attending college in California but I am a freshman at a public school in Texas and my fall tuition tuition is $4250. I am a resident and it’s one of the more affordable public schools- I can’t imagine what other people are having to pay.
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I’m a student activist for fair funding at SUNY Fredonia. I’ve been in countless meetings where administrators literally say “We need to run this school like a business in order to survive.” I can also back up the real estate preference over education quality. Our operating cost is just over 50 million dollars per year. Our president says this makes us “broke” and puts us in a huge deficit. And yet the yearly budget for renovating an administrative building is around 48 million dollars.
Jokes on you i paid off my student loans nearly a decade ago, how you might ask? I got into a car accident and the settlement was enough to pay what i had left off on top of living with my parents for many years to put all my excess funds into it. Granted i only needed to take loans out for one year of schooling. My parents and grandparents paid for the rest. My parents actually used some of their 401k on my college degree which is insane (since they’re not able to fully retire rn and have no long term plan in place at 72). Still for 1 year everything i dealt with was insane because of student debt. Imo if you have paid off the principle and some interest it should be forgiven.
The bullshit construction projects part is so true! When I was at Cornell University, it had high tuition of course, but I saw huge unnecessary construction projects all over campus being done all the time, including ones that made no sense at all, knocking down perfectly good buildings to rebuild new ones to replace them that aren't much different, regularly digging up the ground in various quads and closing the paths to walk around campus and then putting in new paths and replanting grass with all new grass seeds, I even saw the main Arts Quad get repeatedly dug up and rebuilt multiple times over 4 years. It was all completely pointless. They even shut down things that were good, like shutting down the Robert Purcell Marketplace Eatery which had just won an award for the best campus dining hall in the United States, but that didn't stop them from getting rid of it in this endless quest to rebuild everything for no reason. Meanwhile, as far as the education, class sizes at Cornell are really huge and many of the teachers don't even speak coherent English. There are so many teachers from other countries with extremely thick accents nobody can understand teaching huge classes, people are not learning very much in those classes. People from wealthy ruling elites of other countries come to top American universities as students, especially for graduate school, and then they get used as TAs, teaching assistants, to teach classes, or even put in charge of teaching the main courses, and nobody can even tell what they are saying, because there isn't really any screening process for whether the people involved in teaching actually speak coherent English that the students understand or not. And this is at an Ivy League university in upstate New York, the university deliberately bringing in people who can't speak English and exploiting them as free labor (since graduate students are students so using them to teach undergrads doesn't even pay them, just cuts what they owe), and using them to teach the undergrads, in very large class sizes, some with hundreds of students in a classroom. I did manage to graduate on time and get a double major, but Cornell is honestly a badly run mess of a university and I think most universities are like that, at least in the United States. And you are right about it not guaranteeing good career prospects, because I majored in a very competitive field and I was not the one who won out in that competition for good jobs after graduating. I still learned a lot, but I could have learned just as much at a cheaper university or college. Also, it was an incredibly stressful college to attend, the classes there are legitimately quite hard. But the payoff for it, the diploma? Not actually worth all that time and effort, it doesn't actually get you a job. I thought things would be easier after I graduated, that I could easily get a high-paying job. I was wrong about that. I ended up being poor. Never managed to get a good job. Partly due to being on the autism spectrum and having lots of anxiety surrounding job interviews. I always did very badly in job interviews, and never had any relevant work experience in the field I majored in. Anyway, going to a good college doesn't guarantee anything at all, it might just be a huge waste of money that is also bad for your mental health, too. A funny thing is, the total amount of money I have made in my entire life, for 20 years since I graduated, is nowhere near how much my college education for 4 years cost. My situation is not universal of course, many people do end up successful after going to top universities and studying in-demand careers like I did, but in capitalism, there are winners and losers, and I am one of the losers, even though I did everything correctly other than having autism and anxiety and hardly any social skills and being bad at job interviews. I had all the other skills and qualifications. And since my college application didn't involve an in-person interview like a job application, Cornell thought I was really really smart. The same thing a lot of employers thought until they interviewed me in person and decided I was "not a good fit for their company" or whatever, the universal rejection that always happens when applying for a good job, every single time, if you have a personality like mine that is well-suited for academics but ill-suited for interviews. But yeah, you are just so completely right about these bullshit construction projects at universities, I always wondered why the hell Cornell was wasting so much money on unnecessary things like that while continuing to increase tuition and having ridiculously large class sizes taught by people who couldn't even speak English well enough for students to understand. And they keep around these graduate students from other countries to use as workers to exploit and charge money from instead of paying, for years, making the graduation requirements for graduate students really difficult, while also having them teach the classes. It is totally nuts, it doesn't make the educational quality good, that is for sure. It just makes the classes hard because you have no idea what is being said to you and then you have to take tests on it.
"knocking down perfectly good buildings to rebuild new ones to replace them that aren't much different", sounds like Milton Freidman's spoon problem all over again, how capitalism is beating socialism at its own game 101.
It just sickened me when I learned that my super smart and very hardworking philosophy professor (Bowdoin grad) was being paid $3,000/semester of teaching and living off of nothing more than oatmeal and ramen. I was in relatively better financial shape working part time at Trader Joes while I was in school.
@@Praisethesunson If only unions actually had the power to force employers' hands and make them pay workers fairly instead of being yet another money-making scheme because _capitalism poisons everything._
It’s not just making it ultra expensive - it has come to a point that they’ve convinced a good percentage of ppl that higher education is not beneficial
This actually explains so much! I’m in college right now and I’ve sensed something is fishy about where all the money is going. It also explains all the new buildings randomly popping up for no good reason. I knew there was a scam somewhere but couldn’t figure it out.
Eat the rich is a bad slogan in that it sends the wrong message. It implies the rich are good and that the benefit of getting rid of them is with directly obtaining what they provide for us.
As a former CUNY adjunct prof (with an Ivy League PhD, haha) I had to leave teaching because at $2500-3000 per course per because I could not afford to live, let alone in NYC. Broke my heart to leave both. I took teaching very seriously and tbh I'm glad I'm not teaching this MrBeast generation!
UC Berkeley didn’t provide housing for students at all until the 1920’s which was when the UC started charging tuition as well as when the first dorm (Bowels Hall) was built.
Tuition inflation has increased 710% since 1983. Truly aweful. That is why China already produces more Science Papers and graduates 5 million STEM graduates every year. While the US STEM field has around 1 million people in the industry. So 5x more people working on it.
@@miro.georgiev97 Last time I checked 5 million was greater than 1 million. It is reflected in the science breakthroughs, patents and papers produced in greater quantities than the US.
@@jimmytimmy3680 Raw numbers are far less statistically significant than proportions like the ones I gave. 5 million STEM students in a country of 1.42 billion is a drop in the bucket. How many of those students actually get careers from their efforts? That drop in the bucket suddenly gets even smaller.
I have just retired from a community college. The top administrators recently gave themselves whopping raises. They can't be fired (!). The full time faculty has lost 1/3 of its members in the last 12 years. During that time, raises for the proletarians (like me) haven't kept pace with inflation. Younger faculty members with tenure are bemoaning the fact that they still have many years to retirement. I used to tell new hires that they just landed in heaven and didn't have to die to get there. I haven't said this in years.
This is causing an exodus of students from USA to come to my country The Netherlands for tuition. In 2012 the number of American students in Dutch schoolbenches came to about 3.000. By 2023 we got 26.000 American students trying to get an education here. This is getting problematic. Not only do these students for the most part go back to USA after graduation. While they are here, they need housing, which in part is why there is a housing crisis in The Netherlands today. I encourage rules and laws are written today that prohibit colleges to give more than 50% of their lectures in English language, but do it all in Dutch instead. Hope is, the students will still come, but learn how to speak Dutch first, before attending and maybe stay when they finish college. We could use well-educated immigrants.
@@dcorgard I don't know, I never been to the US, but I do know one thing I would like very much in USA vs The Netherlands. Space. My country is very small and very densely populated, I would like to be able to not see other people anywhere in the next 100 steps I take. I think USA is great for that wish.
I'm a graduate from New Mexico Tech (2012.) I studied physics and electrical engineering, and the man who founded both of those departments, Jack Workman, was once college president. And that was the tradition for most of the institution's history--until Dan López. No more scientists--all businessmen and lobbyists now. And while the math department couldn't afford dry-erase markers and the chemistry department couldn't afford to keep its fume hoods in operation, this character was paying Mythbusters to come to our campus to film on our explosives range--to attract people from out of state who have to pay higher tuition. NMT once provided an excellent education to New Mexican engineeers and scientists at a good price. But that's not the business model anymore--now they want to trick people from places like Egypt, Ghana, Nigeria, and Iran into coming all the way to New Mexico (that cannot be easy for folks of average means to begin with) so they can soak the poor bastards on out-of-state tuition (and force them all to buy meal plans even if they already buy and cook their own food.) The board don't care that they've priced out the locals. ...Also these bastards suck up an alarming fraction of the water in the City of Socorro to spray it on a golf course in the middle of a desert. It literally runs through the streets every night except during freezes.
JT, did you hear about the 60 year old Wells Fargo employee that DIED at her desk and nobody noticed for FOUR DAYS?! The employees had complained about a strong odor and management blamed it on "bad plumbing". The smell was the poor woman decomposing! Capitalism is an absolute hellish landscape
At $130k a year one would expect to have classes of only one student in each. Just do the math: 130k is approx the normal salary of a professor in such a university. So by that logic one student alone per class can pay for the salary of one teacher per class. Alright, maybe there are some fees for renovating the university infrastructure, pay for energy bills, maintaining the cleanliness of the parks etc. So let that be 2 students per class. 2 students per class is all that's needed to fund a university at the price of 130k a year per student. But in reality, there are often 15 or 20 or more students per class. One should wonder where all that extra money goes?
It depends on the proffession. I only have european numbers on this topic becuase i often have to defend our "almost free" education. Medical students for example are estimated to cast about 100k-200k € per year, while students of literature (or anything that can be learned with books and teachings only) are estimated to be 20-30k€. Or course it depends on other factors, but it still shows the difference. Engineers and chemical students are in the middle of those 2 i think.
very few full-time faculty make anywhere near 130k -- the mean salary for a full time university prof in the US is about 80k. You may be confusing professor with 'full professor' (the most senior rank = the highest paid) who can make more than 100k.
And the students don't pay less for classes taught by adjuncts and graduate students, but often what an adjunct is paid is closer to $30,000 than the one hundred thousand more. Some systems pay part-timers the proportionate fraction of the average full time professor. The US doesn't do that. Also, if mean includes adjuncts and teaching assistants, the mean for full time will be lower if you're looking at adjuncts who put together a full class load by teaching at several schools. If 70% of the current faculty is contingent faculty, then the mean is going to be skewed by contingent faculty who are full time but paid at adjunct rates per class.
Well someone's gotta pay for that 7 figure salary for the university sport coach and the new shiny stadium and changing room. /s But unironically, the stupid college sports thing is where a fuckton of the college's money goes because 1) they want to continue being a non-profit so they need a reasonable expense to dump all their profits into so it shows up as a deficit on the balance sheets and 2) because college sports is profitable for the university (not for the players involved).
F this shxt, for all the depression and anxiety I suffered under the crushing tuition fee and worsening living condition under UC. I am lucky that I didn't have to take any debt, learnt sth I loved and sub to 2nd thought during those years.
I start my junior year in educ in a week or so and my shitty small state uni is up to $4,500 for living off campus, no mealplan, in state tuition. our only parking lot is all torn up w construction, our teachers keep leaving, half our primary classes are online, and the land it sits on is deteriorating away. I just want to teach but they're making it so hard.
this makes sense, the college I gradauted from tore down and built two brand new buildings, bought a high school and an elementary school to turn into campus buildings, and already dug up new sites to put another student athletic building and employee parking
Thankful I completed my BSME in mechanical engineering years ago (Bradley University). It was well worth it. And I could afford it then. Education is a public good, whether it is public education, colleges and Universities, or trade schools. Learning is fundamental, and a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Education, shelter, food, and water, should be free and accessible to all in the world, but profits being put over the planet and people dont make it easy
I taught college from 1999 until 2011, during that time we had at least a 3% every year. I was a student in the same system from 94-98, and the small tuition hike in that period was 4%. The impact was that over 17 years tuition tripled. I got let go from a job I loved and the housing crisis was the excuse. I have since doubled my pay back in industry, and feel poor despite that.
Went to a private school in the US, and it put me 90k in debt. I wish I would've known what I know now about college. Many of my professors would show a power point and call it a day, but that is not what my tuition should be paying for!
So…send my kids overseas for educational opportunities..if its 25x cheaper to book a private Italian village for 4 years and send them to the local university, maybe i need to start up Duo Lingo again…sigh
I'm going to college soon, and although I'm going to UK, the same thing is basically happening here. As an International Student, I'm being ripped off- I'm paying 3x what UK students are paying (£9250). Which is already a high amount. This doesn't even factor in my living expenses. I'm still second guessing my option because of the ridiculous costs attached. But, for better or worse- it was a decision I've taken due to multiple reasons.
I attended the University of Florida to pursue my dream career of being a teacher as an international student. 20k out of state tuition per semester. I’m 400k~ in debt.
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Will Hakim ever be able to afford to buy his way out of your basement?
#FreeHakim
You should make a video on argentinas new president javier milei
I heavily suggest it if anyone has the ability to sign up for the patreon. The discord server is such a lovely community! Truly life savers.
1968.....what else happened in the US in 1968 that might have led to California charging tuition......hmmm signed....my black ass!
If you build it, they will come and ruin it with their greed.
For real! When will it stop?
If you build it, they will climb on top of it with a sign that says "I built this"
Capitalism.
If you (socialists) build it, they (capitalists) will come and ruin it with their greed.
ok..... so how do the socialists prevent this?
and where are the socialists building this?
@@banditapattanaik3179 when the socialists make the socialist infrastructure needed to actual support socialist ideals.
I studied in Scotland where we thankfully pay no tuition fees. Nobody here realised how good we’ve got it tbh
Yea, as an american Gen z socialist here we aren't lucky the Europeans should take their stuff more for granted!
we do have tuition fees, the government is just the one that pays them for Scottish students and because the government negotiates the price per Scottish student, our universities have been successfully negotiating for permission to accept less and less Scottish applicants over much more profitable foreign students. We have the exact same problem bro, how many years in a row have we had lecturers striking? how many actually Scottish students have you seen? In fact when I didn't stop badgering the people at st andrews for a clear reason as to why I didn't get in despite literally being identical to their "optimal applicant" they eventually just admitted to me that they had already accepted enough Scottish students to keep the government happy that year and that because of a clerical error the previous year causing them to accept more Scottish students than intended, they had successfully negotiated with the government to take even LESS Scottish students in the year I was applying.
They still don't care about us, they still care more about their margins, they are still a problem
unfortunately in England we have to pay around 9000 quid per year just for the course. We have to pay separate for rent, gym membership, etc.
The government has made it easy for us to get in to uni which is nice but ultimately we are just paying to get a degree and be unemployed lmao.
I never took out a "Student Loan" because of my suspicion of debt enslavement via this country's history.
lucky
We forget that education isn't a favor for a person, it's a benefit for a country.
And benefit to companies too.
They don't have to teach all their workers, or figure out which ones learn well, which ones will grasp the concept well, which ones will find the topic fascinating and choose to advance further in the field.
The cheaper and better the education and the more people get it. The more and better choice for employees they have.
I'd like to borrow that from you but at the end of the day we don't get quality education because the 'gods' want slaves, not humans with brains
Exactly....but right wing conservetards don't get that. They think selfishly...why should I have to pay for someone else's education or healthcare. But they have no problem paying for corporate tax cuts, maintaining an evil globe spanning empire or funding genocide. It's completely insane.
The primary benefit of education isn't to the one getting it... it's to literally every other living creature on the planet.
This. Underrated comment.
A Reagan advisor literally talking about making college harder to attain because they were worried about an “educated proletariat” - that sounded so crazy unbelievable I had to look it up. But it’s true.
"I love the poorly educated!" And they lap it up.
The bourgeoisie is aware of and understands class war much better than us, and they are hell-bent on keeping themselves on power by any means necessary.
There's quite a bit of US history that sounds so batshit insane on paper, that it sounds unbelievable, but turns out to be real.
From all of the coups we've thrown, to COINTELPRO, to things like MK Ultra.
The Neocons were/are elitists with low intellect. George W. Bush is a good example...someone who is touted as a "businessman," has a high social position merely because he was born into money and has an Eye-Q around 90. Most of them are like that. Take away their money and they would be selling ginzu knives on the Home Shopping Network.
Baristas with Masters never proved that wrong, lmao
As an educator, I hate this so much and I see it everyday. I got into this field because I believe in expanding knowledge. They know that educators dedicate their time and talents to the field, which means that it's hard for us to leave or get a job transfer because a lot of jobs think our skills are only good for educating. That leads to teachers having to stick around and take part time positions that pay so much less and have less stability. And most college have adjunct professors as "non-negotiable." You essentially have no power and have to swallow the criminally low payment. I get paid more an hour to tutor students than I do to teach them in a university. It's sad.
The carrot dangled in front of my nose was being promoted to auxiliary faculty, with a full load each quarter, some benefits, but no job security.
@@RebeccaOre Equality at last.
@@MB26535it's a bot idoit
@@RebeccaOre That would have caused me to start throwing things. So sorry they did that to you! I just went to a meeting where they were telling us how they need their adjunct and I was just like "money and stability talks better than your speeches, thanks."
@whatever6223 I wish I could. Sadly, the place where I tutor doesn't have enough hours for me to go full time. Really, I'm just in a terrible state for education. Adjuncts here make below the national average per course.
Reagan.
It always goes back to Ronald Reagan.
Ronald Reagan forced people to take loans for college?
@@dmgibson555 Watch the video and stop trolling.
I would push back a little by suggesting it's important to know that Reagan, Thatcher and the likes were players in that history, but they were simply following the logic of the system. The whole reason they ended up in those positions, and that the neoliberal hell that has followed was the option they went for in that historical moment, was that capital has to find new ways of subjecting new avenues to commodification, keeping its falling rate of profit up, and so on. There is a great short video (provocatively) titled "Why neoliberalism was necessary" by channel adu on this subject. As always, it's about the system, not individuals.
When I was growing up in the 1980s UK, America felt more distant than today.
I have a distinct memory that as a kid, I didn't fully know the difference between the two most famous Ronalds in the world, and had an argument at school where I INSISTED that the President of the USA was called Ronald McDonald.
I now realise I was at least half right, as the President was certainly a clown...
Turns out, Reagan was the Antichrist after all. LOL
Not a public college but my university had mass layoffs to not go bankrupt the same year it bragged about enrollment being up and suggested a bright future.
Sounds like the university I work at
@@h4rym4nd0 spread the word
Gotta make even more profit.
Exactly like a private company
Well, the administrators need to make $500K+/year, with perks.
Private Equity: the great money printer that ruins everything, including money, education, and our childhood
Free Education? Seems like COMMUNISM to me!
You forgot healthcare
@@vladimirownz144 Yep Private Equity is a reverse Midas Touch where everything in their way turns to ash, including healthcare
Concordo, essa modalidade irá destruir as nações no longo prazo.
PE firms took what the mafia was doing, called it business, and legalized it through lobbying and shady politics.
Btw a student protest did actually overthrew the government in Bangladesh.
I'm from BD and I'll be honest, this reeks of a US backed coup. The new government is filled with NGO and US affiliated people. The genuine protests in the beginning may have later been hijacked by US parties, as is what often happens in Global South countries.
BD also rejected a US attempt at getting military bases onto our St. Martin island last year, which may have something to do with it.
The same thing happened multiple times in Argentina
No it was the military coup with little bit help of CIA
USA did it
Whether if ur implying thats a good thing or not, the problems there are incomparable to problems of a first world country
Something that’s ridiculous to me as an incoming freshman is how much universities spend on “fun” (attention grabbing, student attracting) things. It reminds me of google installing slides in the offices rather than paying employees fairly. Sure, it might be fun, but eventually the novelty will wear off and you’ll realize that the minimum million dollar gaming room only drew funds from your education and increased tuition, so you’re left with immense debt for a subpar education.
Allen Ginsberg described college and universities as old age homes for the young. And all non-major classes are taught by graduate students or adjuncts. The highest paid professors are people who might teach one or two classes a year but who are draws since they're people the people applying to graduate school may have heard of. Someone described Virginia Tech MFA in writing program as Nicki Giovanni and a bunch of people she'd never heard of.
Many once excellent universities no longer care about education but view undergraduates as a money grab
If you think Google under pays employees, you will be disappointed when you graduate. Google pays on the higher end
And when you finish school and enter the workforce, your employer will throw you quarterly pizza parties to boost morale. Just like the ones from third grade.
Education should be free
Everywhere and for everyone
How?
@@brianbachmeier34
State funding through taxes, like every other modern nation does it.
Edit: to everyone who feels the need to send me a "then it's not free," obviously not. "Free" is widely understood to be "free at the point of service" in contexts like this. Your nitpick adds nothing to the conversation.
Trueeee
So should data.
I'm 29 and at community college.
I've spent 10 years trying to get a bachelor's degree and not only do I not have half of that, I don't even have half of *that* (30 credits).
When I was 18 years old, in 2013, I went to community college. I had to rely on welfare/Medicaid because higher education doesn't offer adequate health insurance.
But because welfare isn't an unconditional cash transfer, I couldn't use my health insurance to take care of my sick mom.
She was sick for six years, on oxygen, from 2017-2023. She ultimately passed away.
The stress from this caused me to flunk out of school, lose financial aid, and not get it back despite the financial aid office knowing what happened to my sick mom.
Screw this POS country
:(
I'm sorry for your troubles. Welcome to America. Where there is enough money to maintain a brutal global empire & fund genocide, but not for education.
@@monash4250I believe poverty is a policy choice, not a universal law of nature like gravity.
The EITC cut child poverty in half overnight, but those benefits expired.
@@gabrielhersey5546yes. I'm angry.
Angrier news doesn't focus on the poor.
That’s so heartless of them! Sorry you went through that.
Everything that gets commodified eventually dies.
commodification is a disease
Tis the race to the bottom
Everything
dies.
@@TheAzul_Indigo Well then, it's time for dominance hierarchies, and especially the dominance hierarchies that make up capitalism to bite the dust... at least if we want humanity not to be sent to its demise early.
great prediction for the USA.
Countries that have free tuition: Argentina, Austria, Brazil*, the Czech Republic*, Denmark, Egypt, Finland*, France, Germany*, Greece*, Iceland*, Kenya*, Luxembourg*, Malaysia, Morocco, Norway*, Panama*, Poland, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Turkey, and Uruguay.
* The asterisks indicate countries that even provide free tuition to American students!
It's not free. It's paid by higher taxes...
@@tomasbisciak7323No no, it's paid for "by the growth", you know, like when conservatives ram through another tax cut for multi-millionaires, and liberals say "but how will we cover this", and conservatives grin and reply, "it's paid for by the growth in our economy, that all these Job Creators are going to spur on, because they don't have to pay taxes".
So yes Tom, it's paid for by the growth.
@@tomasbisciak7323
By that logic, firefighters and police aren’t free.
@@tomasbisciak7323
For the country its an investment. What else has germany to offer if not highly educated people? Nothing. And i think theey do not invest enough into education tbh. THe only reason germany plays a role is because of past work. Soon they won't be able to hold their amount of wealth unless they care about education.
I am from Kenya and education is no longer free all parents must pay something if you have the time look at the new funding model for university students that we have in kenya
OMG I feel so attacked. I am a lifelong CA resident. I was in high school in the early 2000s,. After community college and a period of just working, I went to finish my last 2 years of my BA at UCD in Fall 2008. Your description of the massive increase in tuition over a very short period of time was very much a real experience for me.
Let's also not forget that this time period included the Great Recession, so on top of tuition increases, the job market and housing market tanked as well. By 2020, my wife and I had almost recovered financially from all that...just in time for the pandemic to hit. What a time to be alive.
There are many tricks to shift wealth from the working class to the wealthy. But many things said in this video and in the comments are wrong or I disagree with. The left has many things it needs to change before I stand with it.
So you witnessed the impact of Clinton guaranteeing student loans to those with no income or credit. The universities started rapidly raising tuition exactly as had been predicted.
UCD UC Davis
Ironically you've got clowns like Charlie Kirk & Ben Shapiro calling College a scam, despite the fact they went to college & make a living speaking at them.
Dont forget the 100k loans they took!
Charlie Kirk didnt go to college
@@CarsonMurrayI know but he speaks at a lot them with his Turning Point USA nonsense.
@@CarsonMurray that explains his stupidity & ignorance
The real scam is that these tech startups with ping pong rooms actually buy all those ping pong rooms to further justify the higher income gap of people who graduate, allowing these forced purchases to keep education less accessible to more people.
Tech startups are like zoo for college graduates to feed on eucalyptus.
In regards to the last segment of the video, Paulo Freire states very well in his book “the pedagogy of the oppressed” quote “When education is not liberating, the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor”, which I believe is a very interesting thing for one to ponder on..
I keep thinking of quitting as a university lecturer and joining “the administration.” Capitalism is great at breaking the masses spirit.
Great quote
Fun Fact: The highest paid government employee in every state is usually the head football coach at a state college.
Most European countries don't have sports as part of the average university sponsored experience. If you're going to be a footballer, you learn how to do that, having learned how before college/university. I applied to and didn't attend a college that made attending the "football" home games mandatory.
@@RebeccaOre Do you mean "participate"? Attendance implies you _aren't_ playing the game but watching it; participation implies you're the one playing it.
I'm a scientist at a major university. You should see the percentage of our grants they take for "overhead and indirect costs". Now a lot of universities are not allowing advancement if you don't get a grant. We are basically being forced to pay to work
Yeah, I've seen that too, at both my PhD and post-doc universities. Half of the $ went to the university out of the grants.
also a research scientist -- basically the expectation now is that you will bring in enough grant "overhead" to cover your salary and benefits - so none of your salary is coming from tuition -- all that money goes to administrators. 35 years ago there were three professors for every administrator at my university -- now there are more full-time administrators than full-time faculty.
This 👆🏽
Administrators or gatekeepers ?
Not to mention the university will take a large percentage from any patent you file. Makes you wonder what all the supposed benefits scientists are getting for the amount of investment and prestige they are bringing to the university
I study in one of France’s best universities and I pay 170€ (~185$) per year, I simply cannot wrap my head around the astonishing price of tuition in the US…
Yeah, never let your country privatize the schooling... It will end up bad every single time.
We pay more than that for just ONE textbook needed for class.
That’s the price of one text book for one class
@@dcorgardyep.
I can't speak for all states, but in Texas, they have transitioned professorships into adjunct positions. They have also created non-tenerned positions. This was done to not provide benefits and stability of their staff.
Let's not forget that K-12 education has become a business model, and local school boards/governments have allowed big businesses into education through education software and publishing. Many legislators do not work in education in any capacity, yet they are gutting the system to pass students through. By the time students get to university, there is a lot of remediation in math, English, and writing. Imagine that.
This is common across all schools from community colleges to big research universities. It is the reason that i left the track of professor/ instructor to industry/ sales
Exactly. 70% of all high school graduates enter college WITHOUT the basic skills in reading, writing, or math. I used to teach the remedial writing courses at a community college. It never ceased to amaze me of what kids did NOT know when entering my class. How do you go through 12 years of school and not know how to use a period?
@@sharonrinkiewicz3940 I feel ya.
@@nicolerubin7368I'm looking into other career opportunities.
Yh I studied in Germany & even tho I had gone to the 2nd best HS in my home state, taken all the classes for their strict requirements & gotten good grades, & achieved the ridiculously high min ACT score, I was still SO far behind many of my classmates. I didn't graduate. Many ppl put so much pressure on themselves & don't realize it's all crap anyway
a similar situation in india! Imagine for a moment you're appearing for an entrance exam for a medical degree. you waste 2 years of your youth grinding night and day for this exam along with 2.3 million other aspirants, all with the same goal: Admission into a government medical college. why? because the tuition is lower. To be specific, aiims delhi charges a measely 70 bucks for 5 years for an mmbs program. sounds good right? oh wait. there are only 6000 seats in the whole nation which are in government medical colleges. 2,300,000. 6000. what about the rest? well, they have to enter in a private institution of course. god damn it the fees is more than 95 percent of the populations annual income. Then we indians worry about not having enough doctors per capita. its a business. a business which destroys students.
My condolences go out to India. For being such a rich, diverse, and beautiful country, you guys suffer from many issues that you shouldn't have to. It hurts to see so many people who could potentially live good lives be inhibited by economic woes.
It would be awesome to see governments not be so scared of helping their people for once and actually finding more education so that people can lead healthier, fulfilling, and productive lives, while this pays back into the nation.
As a P.S.: I've heard that India is backwards and contradicting in quite a few ways, which is a fun mess. Then again, so is the U. S. of A! I wish you luck, and hope for the best for you.
In 1974 I paid $92 a semester for full time at CSUN. This included the best health care I ever had as well as access to the most wonderful teachers and libraries and other resources. There was a van that would drive us to the medical center from the college. This lasted for four years.
I'm jealous. That would actually be wonderful today.
I cry because I would love to have that today
Gotta love Regan and electing movie stars to office like Schwarzenegger
Or reality TV host and failed businessman.
Don’t forget Regan was a “movie star” too!
Socrates was right about democracy?
This is the problem with capitalism. When money is placed above all things… you’re seeing the result
@whatever6223 Regulating capitalism is a self-defeating proposition. Regulation goes against the interests of the very people with the power to regulate it.
@whatever6223 Capitalism is inherently monopolistic.
Put a registration on thing that actually matters, and see 10k dallor magical appear in some congress member's bank account and regulations dissappear.
IMO bankster cartels have replaced capitalism. Easy debt terms for their interests at the expense of the society that bears them.
@whatever6223 then thats no longer capitalism but socialism instead.
Of course, it always goes back to Reagan...
Fr
Yep
NGL
And the history books paint Reagan as the greatest president ever. SMH
if it's not Reagan, its Nixon; and if it's not Nixon, its Wilson
4:46 “but that all changed when two things happened”
My mind mind immediately “BROOOO IT WAS REAGAN” 😂
Always has been
@@akindatallmidget6508 the one true constant
Same, it always happens to be Reagan
To quote Leeja Miller, "Ronald f*cking Reagan"
We can thank him for basically all of life's problems today
it's brain breaking how they've managed to financialize every dam thing
Yes, even lowly trailer parks are not immune.
Soon air will be privatised
@@malogibeaux4946 Delicious.
The Man has a controlling interest in Rebellion, Inc.
it's an enclosure. it's existed since literally the inception of capitalism. it's one of its defining aspects
I'm surrounded by boomers that live in a vacuum on this subject, Israel, and the border. My parents are against student debt forgiveness. They feel it's unfair when they worked hard to pay for school and today's generation just didn't make good decisions with planning ahead to pay for school.
They don't have any concept if what changed in the country in the last 30 years. Same goes for their beliefs on housing. They don't have the interest in understanding what a first time home buyer deals with now, since they are comfortable having multiple homes they enjoy seasonally now in retirement.
The irony there is that their education has failed them... they can't even understand the gradeschool level math to figure out why the thing they're saying is incredibly stupid.
I was in graduate school in China for two years, and they had a really strange system: they charged about $1200 in the name of tuition, and then after about a month or so, they sent that money back in the form of a scholarship, not one cent less. At first I thought it was a reward for good grades, but then I found that all my classmates had their money back. They also offer interest-free loans for poor students who can't afford the initial $1200. The whole "tuition" thing is almost like performance art. It's like someone thinks they should charge tuition, but not really. Very strange, but in a good way.
I love the quality and effort you put into these videos. The oldschool projector, the lighting and music are all super impressive.
Universities in Germany are generaly state funded and basically charge no or only a small tuition fee, which is primarily meant to make sure that students actually attend lectures. Plus it comes with some free-bees like free public transport in the area or free or reduced cost entrance to places like museums, cultural venues or physical activities like swimming in a public swimming pool.
My brother went overseas to study there and said it was so cheap they had to add some years to complete limits at his because people would enroll just to get the reduced train fair for commuting to work
@@mggardiner4066that's amazing.
Ok😊
Nowadays a bachelor's degree is about as useful as a high school diploma was in the 70s and 80s. In most fields nowadays you need at least a Master's degree for any real salary growth.
I disagree, in general a Masters is as useful as a chocolate frying pan. Most jobs need a bachelors and research and teaching mostly need a doctorate. Masters is just the middle step in between and other than teaching at community colleges there isn't much you can do with one.
Yeah i agree the bachelors is useless but ive seen a masters be useless now and days too
Once you prove how hard you can work, they will continue to expect you to work just as hard. The whole concept of working hard now so you can chill later is a scam.
@@quixomega I actually was able to get my job thanks to having a master's degree. In the physical sciences you need at least a masters degree to get any research position as a bachelor's will not cut it. Doctorate of course will always be required to get advancement.
I have seen multiple job ads required PhDs and offering $18-25 an hour with no benefits. Here in California the McDonald's workers have a better deal.
It always relates to the 3 C’s: corporatism, capitalism, and/or colonialism! In this case, all 3!
I haven't done triple cs since college
Dam your so smart
Yep
and Cronald reagan
Such a great video. I always wondered why universities had such large endowments but never any money for professors.
Have a feeling this is exacatly whats happening in healthcare
Your feeling is correct
My son is in the Penn State system and is a first year CS student. Annual cost is $30K about. I asked him about his first year Computer Science course. And he told me that there is no professor/instructor. Lectures are pre-recorded.....there are TAs that help with problem sets that accompany each "lecture". Basically we're paying full tuitiion for a MOOC.
More prisons than colleges in America says it all
And the best way to reduce recidivism is to give the prisoners preparation for real jobs and careers on the outside. "But that's coddling prisoners," the people drowning in college debt say. Both need decent education. As for prisoners, the punishment is taking away a person's freedom, not turning them out at the end of their sentence without skills in something other than crime.
@@OOL-UV2 thousands of people are held indefinitely without charge in county jails, your argument doesn't make it any better only worse.
@@RebeccaOre we make them work dirt cheap in lock up, but the companies they make products for rarely hire them to work the same damn job they did in incarceration. I’m looking at you Costco, Dollar Tree…
Not only that, but the average cost of incarceration per prisoner or detainee far exceeds the average college education cost. Goes to say that public policy is tailored to serve the wealthy who wants public money spent on its security. There are successful models of confinement around the world where inmates are housed in humane conditions educated and trained to lead an honorable life. They live in very large areas almost like gated communities and they have a productive daily routine that in some cases exceeds the ordinary average routine enjoined by the average citizen. Of course punitive incarceration is not a good idea although some people deserve to experience painful solitude for crimes they inflicted on others as a way to bring them back to their moral conscience, but long incarceration serves no good purpose. Free education is what remains of human civilization and if we have enough money for bombs, prisons, and corporate bailouts, we should have money for education.
@@dalisabe62 agreed, and shorter term for less serious crimes is alive and well in other countries and it seems to be ok. As a listener of true crime from all around the world, I hear how appalled some people are for how short certain sentences are in out of US prisons. We love to lock up long here.
I’d rather have a rehabilitated ex con living next to me rather than a disgruntled one thank you very much!
My neighbor had a little get together with his coworkers and some of us neighbors. They’re all high school teachers. They were talking about how a fair amount of kids now a days are going for trade schools instead of college by default. With year after year of stories of college grads unable to find any significant work, we might be seeing the start of the change. Or maybe this is just an anomaly and nothing changes.
It will only change if the poor organize together and act in their collective interest. Otherwise education will be what it was before the industrial revolution. A playground for the children of the already rich to maintain their class status.
Sadly it would have to be massive amounts dropping or some laws to add consequences to universities not enrolling enough in-state/in-region students. Or jobs stop requiring bachelors + experience for entry or good old boys networking.
The way the system is set up they will fly in overseas students who come from more competitive countries like India and want the chance to work and go to school here. Possibly not realizing maybe how much they are being exploited. Normally I think immigration and international studies are good, but if it’s used as an alternative for universities actually providing fair service it’s not great.
If USA colleges start to lose reputation and credibility long term (which I believe we are starting to see happen to some like Harvard), hopefully it will hurt the colleges enough as students chose to go to other countries that they will be forced to reevaluate
I graduated in 1972. Was easy to work part time and pay tuition. The argument for increase in tuition in Michigan was that Medicaid caused tne necessary tuition increases so the state budget could stay balanced. However, the college administration tripled in size and reduced teacher staff. They needed the extra staff to process the student loans! This is a country wide problem and needs to be stopped.
Yep
I'm on Medicaid while going to school.
I have to make below $20k or above $50k to have healthcare.
I love how colleges become more expensive and then require people to either go broke and drown in debt or apply for a scholarship and pray you're considered smart enough or a good fit to get it.
Wow
Yep
Cover American Medical Association Monopoly. Nobody truly covers them. Had a solution for cheaper medical care but learned that they could block it.
And Pharmacy Benefit Managers! Scams on scams.
Observe the scams within scams within scams.
My Great Uncle always tells me that he didn’t have to spend money on tuition and neither should anyone else. He’s a fun person to talk to, makes me feel like being old doesn’t mean I’ll automatically be out of touch
thanks JT for providing videos and essays that have led me to become aware of class consciousness. It's honestly amusing just how diametrically opposed the interests of the majority and the interests of the rich are. It's like they can't even control themselves and want to quash any method of a common person to elevate their living standards to be above dirt poor.
Greatest country in the world, right? 🙄
An honest person would see that America is much closer to the worst country in the world. But many patriotic Americans are too biased to realize reality
With greatest capitalism!
Yeah such a good government… 😐
As a uni prof (at a private uni), I can attest to seeing this financialization happen over the past 20 years at my institution. It’s depressing and demoralizing for faculty and a major reason i am retiring early compared to peers. Thank you for detailing this ruination of American giver education.
Reactionaries are the worst, wanting to keep the parasites of finance powerful.
Because of your pfp I read this in Chris MacLean's voice.
@@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45 Ironic, Maclean is sort of a corrupt businessman himself.
One of the few things I can really be proud of is refusing to be a scab when Western Michigan University tried to replace its custodial staff due to strikes. When I was told I got the job, and told me to be there the following morning at 6am when their call came after 8pm, I told them I found out about the strike and hung up on them.
I'm with the opinion that all education should be free. We'd be a lot further along as a society if people actually had access to education without having to worry about whether or not they could pay back a massive student loan.
Education should be free. Seriously, do you not want people to be educated? To be skilled? Do you not want more doctors, scientists and engineers?
Uneducated people are easier to control
They want a competitive job market of ruthlessness. They'll try to strong arm break throughs. But even discoveries in labs are driven by capitalist wants and direction.
The question you actually should be asking are "why a country doesn't want it's workers discovering and aggregating real value in their work force and critically thinking about the concentration of resources and capital
Education makes you see through the bs. And is worth a lot of money
Oh no, conservatives do not want educated free-thinkers as evidenced by their ongoing push to eliminate “soft”/social sciences and their attendant bleating about DEI, etc.
This is a sharp point that universities work like insurance companies--students pay tuition (premium) more to insure themselves against a lower paying career path, and less to get actual education; at the same time, universities use the premium to invest and to borrow more money. It's even more like the insurance model as the students, just like insureds, are not guaranteed to get the 'payouts'. The universities do not need to promise that a student will always get financial/career rewards if they choose to get educated there. It's a good deal, but it's standing on thin ice.
Then that's why it needs to change where if the student isn't guaranteed for a good job then it should not be a guarantee that the money be replaced from that student. But you guys aren't ready for that
God I love this channel! Every episode is a cathartically honest, studiously concise, digestable exposure of the woes of our world. Very important work, that is well made. Great job and much, much gratitude, Second Thought :)
Yes, a new second thought video is here.
I did actually manage to pay my student loans off, but only because I started before I was out of school and paid every week. Still took 8 and 1/2 years.
Wait, Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a policy that made Public Schools Privatize their incomes!? But... he grew up in Austria, a country with fairly affordable Higher Education...
He's also a Republican. He has to pull the ladder up after he climbs. It's their whole thing.
Hypocrisy is inherent to right wing ideologies. If you have to point it out every time, you'll get tired.
he fully embraced the "amercian" way (and the rupublican american way to be more exact. i.e. "i'm rich, screw all the others"). when he comes back to visit austria they often do an interview with him, but he can't even speak a halfway decent german anymore. he's barely intelligigble.
@@Zipshysa Both parties are the same. GOP is just more obvious.
Love how a major part of this cycle is people getting tricked by brand marketing and not getting to assess the actual quality of the education
What Higher-ups in Government don't seem to get is if people don't have to worry about Massive Debt they can do more with their lives.
Oh but they do know :)
A tired working class has no energy for rebellion. Keeping us working constantly to pay ours debts is the point.
If you live in 2024, with all the information you can have about the history and inner workings of class society, there is no excuse for still holding the genuinely surprised liberal "gee, if only those misunderstood people in the political and economic elite realised things" position.
A famous Italian historian once said “revolution happens when people are starting to get better so they want more”, as someone already said if you keep people busy paying their debts and having to think about survival, they won’t rebel because they have more imminent problems.
They get that! In fact, that's part of the point. They want you to be so overburdened with debt that you are terrified of doing any kind of resistance, that you will accept lower wages, and that you will accept harsh treatment/no rights at work.
You haven't made a video on insane medical bills? I think that is also a big reason for bankruptcy.
He has an older video on it.
You can also check out the Doc- SICKO by Michael Moore.
Medical debt can be discharged by bankruptcy and one's tools of trade and primary residence are protected unless the person signs away those rights as one hospital in Virginia, now out of business, did for anyone using the emergency room without insurance. College loans cannot be discharged in bankruptcy.
My school (University of Tennessee, Knoxville) just announced a new “entertainment district” with a private luxury hotel, restaurant, and retail space. Guess what they went up on EVERYTHING. Here’s the kicker, they want to demolish the largest commuter parking garage to help build it. In the original press release they said “No parking will be lost.” (It 200% BS). So they are destroying a public good for private business to come in; not one iota of good will come to the students from this project. I plan to join, or organize, a protest to this atrocity.
Man, oh man. It took me over eight years to graduate without any debt because I was working full-time. My wife works for a university, and she gets paid almost nothing. Her department is always short-staffed, and they constantly rely on student workers. I remember, before graduation, they were begging us to vote for another student center building, even though the main one is always empty. The president of the university is always kissing up to billionaires, building extravagant stadiums with their names on them, while the academic buildings are falling apart. There’s a reason you see so many foreigners teaching at the school-because they pay so poorly and take advantage of them. I remember my professor doing tons of research because the school wanted it to secure more funding.
"Education is a social good. We need people getting access to higher education." That right there is the issue and the problem. The Owner Class (quoting George Carlin there), doesn't want that. They want people just capable enough to perform basic tasks to support their profits. An educated worker/middle class is anathema to their interests.
Yes. Thank you for saying it
Yes
I haven't watched one of your videos in a while, and I just wanted to say that your video production quality has improved so much. To everyone working on these videos, keep up the great work.
Here in Canada, federal student loans won't lend you enough to cover tuition, books, and living expenses. So, lower income students are forced to attend part-time while they work. This means it takes longer to attain a degree and you are on average older when you enter your field. Most professors are inflexible with the due dates and times for assignments, so if your paper is due during the middle of a work shift you either have to submit early and lose research time or submit late and lose a letter grade. Either way, you get the short end of the stick.
That's messed up as well.
Ffs that's awful.
That's evil
Thank you for yet another weekly reminder of how completely fucked our society is
in 1969 i attended UCSC as a freshman. from out of state. my yearly tuition was $750. (three quarters at $250 each.) i don't know what the current tuition is, but i'll wager it's WAY PAST what inflation would predict.
Im not a california resident or attending college in California but I am a freshman at a public school in Texas and my fall tuition tuition is $4250. I am a resident and it’s one of the more affordable public schools- I can’t imagine what other people are having to pay.
@@a.h.i267 fr lowkey why i like texas rlly good schools that are surprisingly affordable like a and m is a top uni but surprisingly inexpensive
Love the new editing style, JT. Thank you for your years of educating the working class on injustices.
I love seeing that subscriber count go up. This channel is THE template for the quality, revolutionary, entertaining, investigative journalism that will be necessary to pierce the fake reality peddled by mainstream media and liberal sycophants. Love to see a principled socialist absolutely crush it like this. Keep up the amazing work.
I’m a student activist for fair funding at SUNY Fredonia. I’ve been in countless meetings where administrators literally say “We need to run this school like a business in order to survive.”
I can also back up the real estate preference over education quality. Our operating cost is just over 50 million dollars per year. Our president says this makes us “broke” and puts us in a huge deficit. And yet the yearly budget for renovating an administrative building is around 48 million dollars.
Jokes on you i paid off my student loans nearly a decade ago, how you might ask? I got into a car accident and the settlement was enough to pay what i had left off on top of living with my parents for many years to put all my excess funds into it. Granted i only needed to take loans out for one year of schooling. My parents and grandparents paid for the rest. My parents actually used some of their 401k on my college degree which is insane (since they’re not able to fully retire rn and have no long term plan in place at 72).
Still for 1 year everything i dealt with was insane because of student debt. Imo if you have paid off the principle and some interest it should be forgiven.
Dude your production values have reached peak goodness. A talented artist on top of a top-notch commentator. Bravo!
The bullshit construction projects part is so true! When I was at Cornell University, it had high tuition of course, but I saw huge unnecessary construction projects all over campus being done all the time, including ones that made no sense at all, knocking down perfectly good buildings to rebuild new ones to replace them that aren't much different, regularly digging up the ground in various quads and closing the paths to walk around campus and then putting in new paths and replanting grass with all new grass seeds, I even saw the main Arts Quad get repeatedly dug up and rebuilt multiple times over 4 years. It was all completely pointless. They even shut down things that were good, like shutting down the Robert Purcell Marketplace Eatery which had just won an award for the best campus dining hall in the United States, but that didn't stop them from getting rid of it in this endless quest to rebuild everything for no reason.
Meanwhile, as far as the education, class sizes at Cornell are really huge and many of the teachers don't even speak coherent English. There are so many teachers from other countries with extremely thick accents nobody can understand teaching huge classes, people are not learning very much in those classes. People from wealthy ruling elites of other countries come to top American universities as students, especially for graduate school, and then they get used as TAs, teaching assistants, to teach classes, or even put in charge of teaching the main courses, and nobody can even tell what they are saying, because there isn't really any screening process for whether the people involved in teaching actually speak coherent English that the students understand or not. And this is at an Ivy League university in upstate New York, the university deliberately bringing in people who can't speak English and exploiting them as free labor (since graduate students are students so using them to teach undergrads doesn't even pay them, just cuts what they owe), and using them to teach the undergrads, in very large class sizes, some with hundreds of students in a classroom.
I did manage to graduate on time and get a double major, but Cornell is honestly a badly run mess of a university and I think most universities are like that, at least in the United States. And you are right about it not guaranteeing good career prospects, because I majored in a very competitive field and I was not the one who won out in that competition for good jobs after graduating. I still learned a lot, but I could have learned just as much at a cheaper university or college. Also, it was an incredibly stressful college to attend, the classes there are legitimately quite hard. But the payoff for it, the diploma? Not actually worth all that time and effort, it doesn't actually get you a job. I thought things would be easier after I graduated, that I could easily get a high-paying job. I was wrong about that. I ended up being poor. Never managed to get a good job. Partly due to being on the autism spectrum and having lots of anxiety surrounding job interviews. I always did very badly in job interviews, and never had any relevant work experience in the field I majored in. Anyway, going to a good college doesn't guarantee anything at all, it might just be a huge waste of money that is also bad for your mental health, too. A funny thing is, the total amount of money I have made in my entire life, for 20 years since I graduated, is nowhere near how much my college education for 4 years cost. My situation is not universal of course, many people do end up successful after going to top universities and studying in-demand careers like I did, but in capitalism, there are winners and losers, and I am one of the losers, even though I did everything correctly other than having autism and anxiety and hardly any social skills and being bad at job interviews. I had all the other skills and qualifications. And since my college application didn't involve an in-person interview like a job application, Cornell thought I was really really smart. The same thing a lot of employers thought until they interviewed me in person and decided I was "not a good fit for their company" or whatever, the universal rejection that always happens when applying for a good job, every single time, if you have a personality like mine that is well-suited for academics but ill-suited for interviews.
But yeah, you are just so completely right about these bullshit construction projects at universities, I always wondered why the hell Cornell was wasting so much money on unnecessary things like that while continuing to increase tuition and having ridiculously large class sizes taught by people who couldn't even speak English well enough for students to understand. And they keep around these graduate students from other countries to use as workers to exploit and charge money from instead of paying, for years, making the graduation requirements for graduate students really difficult, while also having them teach the classes. It is totally nuts, it doesn't make the educational quality good, that is for sure. It just makes the classes hard because you have no idea what is being said to you and then you have to take tests on it.
"knocking down perfectly good buildings to rebuild new ones to replace them that aren't much different", sounds like Milton Freidman's spoon problem all over again, how capitalism is beating socialism at its own game 101.
Cornell obviously does not teach how to write succinctly.
It just sickened me when I learned that my super smart and very hardworking philosophy professor (Bowdoin grad) was being paid $3,000/semester of teaching and living off of nothing more than oatmeal and ramen. I was in relatively better financial shape working part time at Trader Joes while I was in school.
That's an adjunct's life for you.
@@RebeccaOrethey need to unionize
@@Praisethesunson If only unions actually had the power to force employers' hands and make them pay workers fairly instead of being yet another money-making scheme because _capitalism poisons everything._
And they have to inflate grades or face being fired and unable to get a reference.
It’s not just making it ultra expensive - it has come to a point that they’ve convinced a good percentage of ppl that higher education is not beneficial
This actually explains so much! I’m in college right now and I’ve sensed something is fishy about where all the money is going. It also explains all the new buildings randomly popping up for no good reason. I knew there was a scam somewhere but couldn’t figure it out.
As a CSU student at a campus where faculty went on strike not too long ago, THANK YOU
I don't understand people saying, "Eat the rich! is a bad slogan."
They aren't hungry like us.
Too privileged.
Eat the rich is a bad slogan in that it sends the wrong message. It implies the rich are good and that the benefit of getting rid of them is with directly obtaining what they provide for us.
@@b.r.1523 we are hungry and they are in a food coma.
As a former CUNY adjunct prof (with an Ivy League PhD, haha) I had to leave teaching because at $2500-3000 per course per because I could not afford to live, let alone in NYC. Broke my heart to leave both. I took teaching very seriously and tbh I'm glad I'm not teaching this MrBeast generation!
UC Berkeley didn’t provide housing for students at all until the 1920’s which was when the UC started charging tuition as well as when the first dorm (Bowels Hall) was built.
Tuition inflation has increased 710% since 1983. Truly aweful.
That is why China already produces more Science Papers and graduates 5 million STEM graduates every year. While the US STEM field has around 1 million people in the industry. So 5x more people working on it.
To be fair, 5 million out of 1.42 billion compared to 1 million out of 345 million isn't _that_ much better.
@@miro.georgiev97 Last time I checked 5 million was greater than 1 million. It is reflected in the science breakthroughs, patents and papers produced in greater quantities than the US.
@@miro.georgiev97 China also leads in 37 out of 44 key technologies vs the US.
@@jimmytimmy3680 Raw numbers are far less statistically significant than proportions like the ones I gave. 5 million STEM students in a country of 1.42 billion is a drop in the bucket. How many of those students actually get careers from their efforts? That drop in the bucket suddenly gets even smaller.
@@miro.georgiev97 Sure. Get a Chair and watch China surpass the US in all aspects: economy, military, scientifically, and technologically.
I have just retired from a community college. The top administrators recently gave themselves whopping raises. They can't be fired (!).
The full time faculty has lost 1/3 of its members in the last 12 years. During that time, raises for the proletarians (like me) haven't kept pace with inflation. Younger faculty members with tenure are bemoaning the fact that they still have many years to retirement. I used to tell new hires that they just landed in heaven and didn't have to die to get there. I haven't said this in years.
Wtf
This is causing an exodus of students from USA to come to my country The Netherlands for tuition. In 2012 the number of American students in Dutch schoolbenches came to about 3.000. By 2023 we got 26.000 American students trying to get an education here. This is getting problematic. Not only do these students for the most part go back to USA after graduation. While they are here, they need housing, which in part is why there is a housing crisis in The Netherlands today.
I encourage rules and laws are written today that prohibit colleges to give more than 50% of their lectures in English language, but do it all in Dutch instead. Hope is, the students will still come, but learn how to speak Dutch first, before attending and maybe stay when they finish college. We could use well-educated immigrants.
Why would anyone move BACK to the US from The Netherlands? That seems a very odd choice...
If I ever get to move, I'll never come back to the US.
@@dcorgard I don't know, I never been to the US, but I do know one thing I would like very much in USA vs The Netherlands. Space. My country is very small and very densely populated, I would like to be able to not see other people anywhere in the next 100 steps I take. I think USA is great for that wish.
I think in terms of money, no countries beat the US. Immigrants are really only here for money until they can retire with enough to go back
Good for u
@@dcorgardcould be hard to immigrate if you don’t have money. Or you know, family. Also if you like natural landscapes and rural living
I'm a graduate from New Mexico Tech (2012.) I studied physics and electrical engineering, and the man who founded both of those departments, Jack Workman, was once college president. And that was the tradition for most of the institution's history--until Dan López. No more scientists--all businessmen and lobbyists now. And while the math department couldn't afford dry-erase markers and the chemistry department couldn't afford to keep its fume hoods in operation, this character was paying Mythbusters to come to our campus to film on our explosives range--to attract people from out of state who have to pay higher tuition.
NMT once provided an excellent education to New Mexican engineeers and scientists at a good price. But that's not the business model anymore--now they want to trick people from places like Egypt, Ghana, Nigeria, and Iran into coming all the way to New Mexico (that cannot be easy for folks of average means to begin with) so they can soak the poor bastards on out-of-state tuition (and force them all to buy meal plans even if they already buy and cook their own food.) The board don't care that they've priced out the locals.
...Also these bastards suck up an alarming fraction of the water in the City of Socorro to spray it on a golf course in the middle of a desert. It literally runs through the streets every night except during freezes.
JT, did you hear about the 60 year old Wells Fargo employee that DIED at her desk and nobody noticed for FOUR DAYS?!
The employees had complained about a strong odor and management blamed it on "bad plumbing".
The smell was the poor woman decomposing!
Capitalism is an absolute hellish landscape
At $130k a year one would expect to have classes of only one student in each. Just do the math: 130k is approx the normal salary of a professor in such a university. So by that logic one student alone per class can pay for the salary of one teacher per class. Alright, maybe there are some fees for renovating the university infrastructure, pay for energy bills, maintaining the cleanliness of the parks etc. So let that be 2 students per class. 2 students per class is all that's needed to fund a university at the price of 130k a year per student.
But in reality, there are often 15 or 20 or more students per class. One should wonder where all that extra money goes?
It depends on the proffession. I only have european numbers on this topic becuase i often have to defend our "almost free" education. Medical students for example are estimated to cast about 100k-200k € per year, while students of literature (or anything that can be learned with books and teachings only) are estimated to be 20-30k€. Or course it depends on other factors, but it still shows the difference. Engineers and chemical students are in the middle of those 2 i think.
very few full-time faculty make anywhere near 130k -- the mean salary for a full time university prof in the US is about 80k. You may be confusing professor with 'full professor' (the most senior rank = the highest paid) who can make more than 100k.
And the students don't pay less for classes taught by adjuncts and graduate students, but often what an adjunct is paid is closer to $30,000 than the one hundred thousand more. Some systems pay part-timers the proportionate fraction of the average full time professor. The US doesn't do that. Also, if mean includes adjuncts and teaching assistants, the mean for full time will be lower if you're looking at adjuncts who put together a full class load by teaching at several schools. If 70% of the current faculty is contingent faculty, then the mean is going to be skewed by contingent faculty who are full time but paid at adjunct rates per class.
Well someone's gotta pay for that 7 figure salary for the university sport coach and the new shiny stadium and changing room. /s
But unironically, the stupid college sports thing is where a fuckton of the college's money goes because 1) they want to continue being a non-profit so they need a reasonable expense to dump all their profits into so it shows up as a deficit on the balance sheets and 2) because college sports is profitable for the university (not for the players involved).
Ok
F this shxt, for all the depression and anxiety I suffered under the crushing tuition fee and worsening living condition under UC.
I am lucky that I didn't have to take any debt, learnt sth I loved and sub to 2nd thought during those years.
I start my junior year in educ in a week or so and my shitty small state uni is up to $4,500 for living off campus, no mealplan, in state tuition. our only parking lot is all torn up w construction, our teachers keep leaving, half our primary classes are online, and the land it sits on is deteriorating away. I just want to teach but they're making it so hard.
this makes sense, the college I gradauted from tore down and built two brand new buildings, bought a high school and an elementary school to turn into campus buildings, and already dug up new sites to put another student athletic building and employee parking
Thankful I completed my BSME in mechanical engineering years ago (Bradley University). It was well worth it. And I could afford it then. Education is a public good, whether it is public education, colleges and Universities, or trade schools. Learning is fundamental, and a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Commenting for the algorithm. Education is a human right.
Nope
No it isn't.
Low-effort trolls on weeks-old comments are hilarious.
@@Aaaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeee I'm joking it is
Only heartless republicans believe it's a privilege.
Education, shelter, food, and water, should be free and accessible to all in the world, but profits being put over the planet and people dont make it easy
The more privatization, the less quality in services.
I taught college from 1999 until 2011, during that time we had at least a 3% every year. I was a student in the same system from 94-98, and the small tuition hike in that period was 4%. The impact was that over 17 years tuition tripled. I got let go from a job I loved and the housing crisis was the excuse. I have since doubled my pay back in industry, and feel poor despite that.
Went to a private school in the US, and it put me 90k in debt. I wish I would've known what I know now about college. Many of my professors would show a power point and call it a day, but that is not what my tuition should be paying for!
The fact I got two ads for online colleges while watching this
So…send my kids overseas for educational opportunities..if its 25x cheaper to book a private Italian village for 4 years and send them to the local university, maybe i need to start up Duo Lingo again…sigh
I'm going to college soon, and although I'm going to UK, the same thing is basically happening here.
As an International Student, I'm being ripped off- I'm paying 3x what UK students are paying (£9250). Which is already a high amount.
This doesn't even factor in my living expenses.
I'm still second guessing my option because of the ridiculous costs attached. But, for better or worse- it was a decision I've taken due to multiple reasons.
Why you even going to school and make No money vs going to the trades 😂
I attended the University of Florida to pursue my dream career of being a teacher as an international student.
20k out of state tuition per semester. I’m 400k~ in debt.
@@Lianhua253 😂😂😂
@@Emilio-np4dk going to trade isn't viable option for me.
@@Lianhua253 yikes.
Why did you take a loan?
How is everything going? Have you received a placement?
Profit = Waste
I am far to the right of you, but I have to admit you got this one 100% right. Good job. Keep it up.
Education, like housing and healthcare should be essential human rights.
Yes
Thanks!