Surfskate Backside Bottom Turn Practice - SmoothStar Filipe Toledo #77
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I recently got some footage of myself surfing (see it here! • Rob Machado Seaside & ... ) and noticed that my backhand bottom turn was nonexistent. So I grabbed some cones and took my SmoothStar Filipe Toledo #77 surfskate board to my local park and did some drills. I truly believe the only way to get better is to study footage so I filmed the session and am sharing it here in case it helps you out too. *Side note this was also a test for my new Movo Edge-DI wireless microphone system for iPhone. Pretty stoked with how it worked even without the windscreen that I forgot to bring with me. Thanks for watching! #surfskate #smoothstar #filipetoledo77
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The best video on surfskate practice that I've seen. Thank you!
Thank you very much!!
Very good job. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Great video. Loads of learnings that I can apply to my surfskating. Thanks for sharing
Happy to hear it helps, thanks for watching!
Nice, Ben! Something that really helps me out on the waves when rotating my shoulders is imagining that your eyes are on your chest and flipping my chest as I open up my shoulders. I find it helps immensely with a frontside cutback and a backside bottom turn. Keep these videos coming!
This a great visualization technique, thank you for sharing!
Good to watch and hear these ideas thanks!
Glad to hear it helps, thanks for watching!
This was a lot of fun to watch this will deff influence my practice thanks !
Happy to hear that, thanks for watching!
I just picked up my SmoothStar Toledo #77 today. I am so excited. In the shop, I stood on the board but I couldn’t make it move. Half an hour later in the car park, I managed to ‘pump’ my board and it was moving (albeit slowly). The speed got better later and I was pretending that I could my surf skateboard “flow” 😂😂. I think I need lessons. I got my SmoothStar on impulse because I am surfing much less now. I am worst now. Feels strange being 50 years but acting like a young teenager when I hold my surf skateboard. I haven’t stood on a skateboard since I was 17. Hope my surfing improves, that’s the goal of buying my SmoothStar.
Haha great story…and wow you bought one in an actual shop? Where was it? That seems rare, well done. Congrats and yes it takes time, I was the same, stood on it and nothing was happening. But with time, effort and a lot of help from TH-cam, you will be ripping up concrete waves soon! Thanks for watching 🙏
@@BenConley Sydney, Australia. I was on a waiting list. As soon as they rang, I cancelled my work for that afternoon and picked up my board. It can be a long wait but I was very lucky. Their surf skateboards sell very fast.
@@pokeypickle3 Haha I would do the same, thanks for sharing and enjoy the board!
Hey, mate! I'm in Newcastle, I'm 66, had my Smoothstar 5 weeks, first skateboard ever! So much fun but it's hard! And what a workout! Would love to know how you're getting on! :)
Having a blast still but looking for something longer for a different feel….lotta places are sold out!
Looking good, Ben! Very smooth
Thank you!
Really enjoy this practice, I’m goofy cheer up 🤜🏼🤛🏻
Thanks for watching!
Awesome work that helps heap.
Thanks from One of your fans in Bangkok 🇹🇭 Thailand .
Cheers
Khàawp khun (hope I’m saying that right!) Glad to hear it helps, thanks for watching!
Culver City park! Right on !
Close but not exactly haha thanks for watching 🙏
Nice!
Thank you!
Very good job, i know what i will be working on once my board is there! Thank you
Rad, enjoy your board and thanks for watching!
@@BenConley Thank you for sharing your experience with us
@@neoprene9156 You're very welcome, thanks again for watching
I really enjoy your videos, man. Keep em coming! Shout out from the land of the rising sun.
Thanks for watching!
nice practice, I'm also a regular so this really helps me a lot. cheers from Bangkok
Glad to hear it, thanks for watching!
I agree, it's easier to get better with a surfskate and of course recording yourself... Congrats for the video, I'm sure that will help a lot of People.
Thank you very much, glad to hear it might help! 🙏
Looking good Ben
Thank you!
Really liking your surfskate videos mate. I like how you are talking it through trying to work out how to improve. How far apart are the markers as they seem spot on. I am also practicing pumping and bottom turns on my backside. Trying to get the compression and extension timing right. Keep up the good work with the vids.
Finally, talking to myself can be productive and helpful haha. Thanks for watching Mark!
nice! inspires me to do better!
Awesome glad to hear it helps, thanks for watching!
ว้าว! เยี่ยมไปเลย
Sorry I need a translation 🙏
Translate: Wow! This is great.
This help me practice my skill man. Another cheers from Bangkok😁
@@thanabodeeathikarngumjorn6269 Thank you both for the language lesson! 🙏
Right on Brotha, started surfing a little earlier this year and absolutely fell in love with it. I'm 17 from socal and just picked up a smoothstar and its a total gamechanger. I feel like my pumping and top and bottom turns have gotten much better and as graum-ish as it sounds, I still find that my pop up is my most inconsistent part. Just wondering if you had any struggles with your pop up when you first started and what you did to kinda get past that. Has nothing to do with fitness on my end just the actual pop up is 50/50 for me
Dude! I truly believe the pop up is the single most important thing when it comes to getting better at surfing because it all starts there. Its hard enough when I execute a good pop up to work on pumping and carving so a bad pop up gives me no chance at all. I think about my pop up every session and practice on dry land as much as possible. Like all the time. I even started yoga to improve flexibility (particularly in my hips) just because I know it will help my pop up and surfing in general. I think if I started surfing as a kid it might be more second nature but because I started as an adult I really have to work on it. My biggest problem is rushing. I get too excited to get up and get going and my technique breaks down. When I rush, I don’t allow myself to push my chest up to its highest point before pulling my legs through. So what happens is I scrape my front knee on the board because I’m trying to pull my legs through too quickly (like I have a hunched back, versus a nice cobra pose with my chest up). For me my best pops are when I think about it in two steps - 1. push my chest up 2. pull my legs through. But man, I start frothing so bad when a wave comes that I forget and try to do it all at once and that’s when I hit my knee and I don’t land exactly where I need to. So the only way for me is to practice on dry land so I build that automatic muscle memory once I get in the ocean. It’s hard for me to think about it when I’m actually surfing because I’m having too much fun. Hope that helps some, thanks for watching!
Ben, what Carver truck do you prefer? The CX or the C7. I seen where a lot of people enjoy the CX but just wanted your opinion because if I remember correctly you have both. I commented the other day on stepping back on the board.. I meant the Seaside.. lol. I have to get me some cones..
The C7 is the closest to the SmoothStar range of motion but not the same. The CX has the least range of motion, seems better for tricks and skateparks (not that I do tricks or skate at skateparks much)
This is such a great video man, it's good to see someone actually working on their surfing and seeing their learning progress, and a ton of explanation along with it.
That board looks amazing and I'm so tempted to get one, but I love my carver Taylor knox c7 so much I'll feel like I'm cheating on it 😂 is it really that much better? great video man 👊
Thank you for watching glad it helps! My buddy has the Taylor Knox and loves it. Beautiful board. Not sure if 'better' is the right word but it's definitely different. I actually just jumped back on my Carver Haedron No. 6 /C7 a few days ago after a long long time on the SmoothStar. The difference is night and day! I went to lean into a turn on the Carver and almost fell off because the rail to rail is so much more responsive on the SmoothStar. I actually liked it because it felt like going from a shortboard to a longboard so it feels like I have two distinct boards in the quiver. Carver is also great for running errands around town because of the stability, much easier to push!
@@BenConley wow I can't imagine a board even more responsive than what I have already, that's insane, yea I love that board I think I'm gonna just stick with it. I did have the 5 ft hamboards, that was a hell of a lot of fun, and turned surprisingly tight! Thanks for your reply man, gives me good insight on the smoothstar, look forward to the next video 👊🤙🙏
I'm trainning exatlly like you! Really good job!!!
I think you could put your front foot a bit behind front wheels. Including your toes
Thank you and thanks for the suggestion!
Awesome. I just bought one and made a small review. Greetings from 🇩🇪
Danke schön (hope I’m saying that right!) Thanks for watching!
Cool video! Really like your bike too 🚲 Where's that from? Aloha from 🇩🇪
Danke schoen and prost! Where in Germany? My bike is a Firmstrong beach cruiser I got used from a store down the street from where I live. Very happy with it!
Just ordered the Toledo #77...l think knee pads might be a good idea for me, at 63 l really need to look after them.
Haha whatever it takes to keep shredding. Thanks for watching!
Ben, Step back on the tail of the board a little bit more and that should help that bottom turn. A tail pad could help you out with that by giving you a reference point for your back foot. You looking good man. I've been working on my SmoothStar as well. Not quite there yet but it's fun. I need to generate more speed so that's my priority now.
Haha yes I address weight back @3:44 when I fall over. Thank you!
@@BenConley I think he's referring to your surfboard, putting your back foot right at the back of the surfboard, If I could add my 2 cents, also you could jump and throw your arms up as part of your popup, especially on small waves. Same with some of you other turns on the board throwing both your arms forward which you can practice on the smoothstar.
Totally get it and thanks for the suggestion! Here's a video where I discuss exactly that (foot back) - One of the reasons I got this board was to learn how to get my foot as far back as possible. Def need to keep practicing and look forward to sharing improvements I've made. Thanks for watching! th-cam.com/video/48akVS15dXI/w-d-xo.html
I see you have your front foot pointed at an angle ( 2 o'clock). Is that something you recommend for surfskating?
I think that’s just what’s comfortable for me. It helps me open up my front side a bit more. Kinda like batting stances in baseball, everyone is diff but if it works then go with it! Thanks for watching
Thanks for the inspo. Not sure if you’re following Kale Brock but he’s great for surfskate training and surf coaching
Big fan, he’s the reason I got a Smoothstar;) Thanks for watching! 🙏
How do you transfer all this to a wave? I can do all this on the ground but a wave has another dimension. And on your footage you are not surfing the pocket that's why you loose speed. Thanks!
It’s not easy that’s for sure. There’s nothing like riding a wave except riding a wave. But surfskating at least allows me to practice little things and every little bit helps! Yes gotta stay in the pocket, thank you!
I think you need to keep working on compression. As surfers, we need to be really smooth with our transitions, dropping, then pushing through the turns (each turn, bottom and top as well as pumping). You did some good ones around 4.30 and on.
6:33 was another good one
Great advice thanks man, compression is all I’m thinking about these days and even when I think I’m compressing, I see footage and realize I’m not compression nearly enough. Been working on flexibility with yoga too which is really helping. Thanks for watching!
Yo what if I'm goofy on skateboard and natural stance on surfboard
Oh wow interesting, I don't think I've heard of that....anyone else here have any advice??
I'm right handed, an Orthodox fighter and a goofy skater. I think that when I first started skateboarding, whoever was teaching me was goofy and I just picked it up that way. probably also why it took so long to feel natural on a board. I am I'm the process of cross training myself to skate regular, and Muay Thai has me regularly switching to southpaw in the middle of combos. I have heard that only 2 percent of the population have discrepancies like this. it is somewhat more unique though to have two different stances on different boards because of how similar the sports are.
the hardest part in skating regular for me is the pushing. I can surf skate regular (somewhat) by just pumping but when I step off it gets wierd lol, and I still push when initially getting speed and I footbreak. I'd say just keep messing with both and switching it up, you'll definitely gain balance and board/ body consciousness
I love you 😚💕
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Little late here sorry but thank you!
the face your same to thor
Haha this is a new one, thank you!