Only Dunmer from Vvardenfell sound like that due to constantly breathing the ash that pours out of red mountain. Mainland Dunmer sound fairly normal as you can observe by listening to Dunmer living in Windhelm in ES5.
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I'm pretty sure that the "large creature" that destroyed Kavatch was one of the daedric siege engines you see when you enter the great gate in Bruma. We know for a fact that there was a great gate at Kavatch.
I can make it can0n I can see what you mean, but why wouldn't they have used the siege engine on more cities sooner? They only attempt to use that later and its a race against time essetially to try and stop it, though that could just be passed off as shit writing on Bethesda's part.
Rick Baker maybe its overconfidence of the daedra, maybe they are confident that they can topple the other cities without it and it isnt until bruma that they bring it out in desperation and as a sort of "oh shit" button.
Rick Baker Because of Martin. Kvatch was attacked by the Daedra because the only person who could light the Dragonfires and foil Dagon's plan was living in Kvatch. Then they attacked Bruma, as mentioned in Jearl's orders, specifically to trap Martin at Cloud Ruler Temple and make sure he can't escape.
There is a possibility that the siege engine the deadra use could have been mistaken for a large beast given its centipede design. But it could have been the Sunken one.
Well on the deadlands dlc for ESO there are centipede like dreadra roaming around the oblivion plain and they look just like that "machine" near to the end of the game in TES 4: oblivion
The great creature was the seige engine. At the bruma gate quest you can see it and they mention that a great gate appeared at kvatch too. Therefore the seige engine destroyed the city
I believe too it was the seige engine because they talk just about 1 giant creature and he is not really taller than a daedroth or a xivilai but the seige engine definitely is
Thomas Watson I agree. This is nothing more than a family worshiping a daedra, and paranoia surrounding the destruction of kvatch via the Great gate and war machine.
There wasn't any after you destroy it at Bruma either, and it makes it out of the gate (if only a little bit.) this is probably just oversight by the developers. Not to mention The Sunken One isn't really tall enough to just "come over the walls" of the city. Also ESWIki (though i know it is only a wiki and therefor edited by fans) states; "The Siege Crawler (note; crawler, meaning it could theoretically crawl up the walls of the city) was first used at the Battle of Kvatch, in which it crushed the city's defenses, allowing the Lesser Daedra to pour through and slaughter the towns-people," though when you arrive there arent really any holes in the city walls themselves, (i mean, the main gate is still completely intact for crying out loud)
I thought the giant creature thing was a Siege Crawler. You know, the big thing you see in the Bruma Great Gate? They said it can only come through a great gate, like in Kvatch
@Camelworks, I think you should investigate sithis. What is he? An ancient god responsible for the creation of Nirn? Or a lie by Mephala to secure her assassin supporting tendencies? I think there is more to him than what most players think. Love the vids
Lazerkat789 sithis is the soul of Padomay, and is a powerful ancient being the opposite of AKA, however the dark brotherhood most likely are actually worshiping mephala
Yea that is some of the lore. But there is some lore out there that states that sithis was actually made when a group of chimer, who worshiped mephala, fused Padomay's soul with deadric influences. There is more to him than we know :p
They sound like this in Morrowind only. They have more of a low toned voice in Skyrim too but it's not nearly as intense as Morrowind. Oblivion is a bit of a special flower in the TES series as many of said. But a damn good special flower for its own reasons :P
I posted this in an older detective video, but I thought I should share it again here: I think it would be cool if Camel made a detective character and role-played as him during these videos. He could even have a follower dressed in the local guard attire who could give general info on some of the locals and locations in the video. He could then have a house or somewhere where he brings all of the evidence back to analyse. Just a thought, though the videos are still great as is.
No evidence of a siege engine? You kill one during the invasion of Chorrol. You don't see it again on tamriel because you stop it before it gets the chance. And correct me if I am mistaken but Martin talks about the gate crasher at least twice. With its oblong shape it could easily be mistaken for a daedra.
18:26 "There are no signs of siege engines". "I have entered the Great Gate. The Daedric Siege Engine is crawling towards the portal! If it exits the Gate before I reach the Sigil Stone, all is lost." - The Great Gate (Stage 10).
Adam Wiley I doubt that. Camel himself highlighted a quest referencing HP Lovecraft's work. So since they already did one I doubt they would be incline to do another. Also, Cthulhu and friends are unfathomable horrors, difficult if even possible to comprehend. Same can't be said for a single elemental.
There's absolutely no reason to think that "oh they did one, so they wouldn't do another!" It's not some fucking quota they have to fill, that's just ridiculous. The name "The Sunken One" IS a reference to the Lovecraft mythos, it doesn't mean the genuine article needs to feature in the quest itself. Notice how the OP referred to the actual line "the sunken one". The line itself is a reference, the reverence of the hidden cult offering tribute to a powerful being - is a reference. The whole thing doesn't have to be neat and fit in the same little box in order for it to be a reference.
The sunken one is actually a term used for the elder god lord(father) dagon the one who rules the deepoines of innsmouth which is referenced in an oblivion quest, also dagon in the stories is the one who will be the first to invade once all are awoken with his half man creations that will come from the dark ocean, the questline is innsmouth but kvatch has everything to be starting bell told about in the dagon portion of the cthulhu mythos, from the name to being the first to invade, to one of his possible followers having a title attributed to his namesake and even the plane of oblivion can be considered a "dark ocean" and if dagon created the sunken one it would explain its power, name, and that it would ring the bell for the invasion, also the fact that like in lovecraft, hell breaks loose when people stop giving offerings to the representative of an elder god, after all its not the offering that matters its the servility when it comes to dagon, he is the only one that looks to conquer in the mythos, cthulhu wants to awaken the outer gods and bring them to our realm to live again as their priest and the rest just exist, but dagon wants control
There's no sign of the siege engine because of the limitations of the game, they couldn't make it run on consoles (even pc's back then had trouble) without walling off the cities completely and making them entire cells that exist outside the overworld. The siege engine destroyed kvatch. It came from the great gate that was shut down alongside the other gates after the town fell.
I always figured that the 'huge creature' was in reference to the Siege Engine that comes out of the Great Gate. It definitely resembles a giant creature
The thing that destroyed Kvatch was a Daedric Siege Crawler. We never seen one at the other cities since the Oblivion Gates were closed before a Great Oblivion Gate could be opened. This info comes during the Defense of Bruma quest.
When you say he's been there for a long time, I actually think that's huge amounts of assumption - a belief in the Sunken One can exist for far longer than the being itself existed in that place. I reckon there were just some superstitious farmers, and the Sunken One was just a surviving Atronach from the attack who felt no particular binding to Dagon and so decided to go sit in a cave. It just so happens that that cave is where a bunch of hicks thought their destroyer-God lay, and it coincided with the destruction of Kvatch.
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Am I the onley one who thinks he's Dunmer voice is pretty good ? My voice would have died at the fist sentence already . So good job Camel no matter what it was verry enjoyable! Thanks for another good video. I was going through this series again and I found out i never seen this one so thanks again for the high quality content.
The huge creature seen at the Kvatch gate was the siege engine. It seemed pretty obvious considering there was a siege engine at Bruma which was also a great gate and had a timer that if you ran out the engine would get through and level the city
From doing the quest myself, it seems he mistook the Deadra attacking Kvatch for his god, The Sunken One, showing some form of disatisfaction. He didn't see the siege engine, and I'm pretty sure Kvatch was the first use of a Seige engine, as 1 Oblivion gate outside of each city doesn't seem to be enough, so it must have been the "huge" Oblivion gate that some of the survivors talk about. Then when he woke up and saw that the siege ruined all of Kavatch he went to pay tribute fearing this entity was responsible (though it wasn't). As we can see, The Sunken One is a powerful Lesser Daedra, so it probably managed to manifest itself but limited to a certain location and rarely takes its form. Kvatch being attacked by Daedra (By the sky colouring and other Oblivion aesthetics present) means he must have linked the two, and jumped to a conclusion and set off. The fact you get a quest upon entering an empty building because it's empty, must mean that it must have been left fairly recently as if someone vanished suddenly, like, maybe he was making breakfast and looked out of a window, only seeing the end of the destruction, then suddenly leaving. I was more here because I wanted to see if this belief in an entity was connected to Hackdirt, seeing if this sort of similar powerful other worldly entity is what Hackdirt want to appease.
uh What about the giant Daedric siege machine? i thought it was explained that the larger broken gate already outside kvatch was a siege gate that let through the many legged mechanical siege beast.
I always figured that big walking siege machine from the intro and battle of Bruma destroyed Kvatch they mentioned a giant beast that spits fire it's a giant beast like machine that spits fire and looks big enough to destroy walls
Oh of course, I believe you camel, the storm atronach that I one shotted at level 5 was surely the one who destroyed an entire city full of powerful mages, knights, and gladiators.
Alexandrewvice At level 5, all the enemies are super weak. I took on the Sunken One at a slightly lower difficulty at lv 30 and it was fucking difficult, I died like five times
Ive always been a elder scrolls fan love this channel the way you make the smallest details or inconspicuous things into great stories. It makes it all seem new you have a good way with words perhapps you should try your hand at writing fantasy or fiction
Theory Suggestion: - Why was Rufio wanted dead in the first place? Dialogue would suggest that he possibly raped and murdered a woman, and his location, the Inn of Ill Omen, serves as a place of refuge from the authorities. Perhaps the person who performed the Black Sacrament to begin the contract is the same person who admits to praying to the Night Mother in the Imperial City Prison? A Black Sacrament ritual site can be found in one of the house basements in the Imperial City. Are there more scattered around Tamriel? Is the one in the Imperial City related to Rufio? "So I wanted somebody murdered. So I prayed to the Night Mother. What, is that a crime now? They even took my house, those bastards! Agh!" Side note - The Inn of Ill Omen is and its involvement in the Dark Brotherhood quest line is a Lord of the Rings reference.
faffing about Yeah, as a matter of fact I think Camel already mentioned that in his Oblivion Easter Eggs video! Good thinking, though, even if it was a little late
The fact that 350,000 people have watched a video this ‘non-mainstream’ tells you both how big the elder scrolls fandom is and just how starved said fandom is for new content
When america came to Japan under Teddy Roosevelt, the people of Japan thought the Americans came in a giant metal dragon. I believe the developers were making reference to it. "A giant came over the walls" reminds me of the vision Ureial Septum had before character creation. I believe the monster the survivor referred to was the war machien, and due to a lack of understanding they believed it to be a living creature.
I mean, couldn't the giant creature be Mehrunes Dagon himself? He seemed to step over the walls of the Imperial City with ease and was able to tople buildings pretty easily as well
TheDigDeepScore ya the monster over the wall would definitely be the siege engine. Cus it was definitely used because they spawned a great gate. And it’s not like it knocked down the walls so it must have climbed over
I always believed it was Mehrunes himself that came over the wall. Also, I thought I had done everything possible in this game, but apparently always neglected to actually go inside the farm. This whole quest is new to me 😂 The dunmer voice is spot on, and as a blackmetal singer, I say good job and mead or barley wines will help!
So I never played this game as much as others have. I decided to do this quest as I never knew it was a thing before. I paused the video as you came across the farmers body and played it myself. Not gonna lie, I was kind of....disappointed. I thought it would have gone on longer, I thought maybe the Sunken one would have a unique model, or maybe you'd get some special weapon or armor. Nope. it just ends D:
You wasted the effort on that voice, the only reason Dunmer have that voice is due to breathing in in the ash filled air of Morrowind. Dunmer from Cyrodil would have the normal voice they have in the game.
I know youve probably figured this out by now but the "huge creature" you're looking for is that giant moving battle ram/seige engine thing you see in the great gate outside bruma..because they put a great gate in front of kvatch too.
@Camelworks - the thing that went over the wall of Kvatch was the daedric siegewalker. You see it in the last battle to close the main Oblivion gate north of Bruma. The machine is referenced in the quest as you enter.. There is a time limit to get the sigil stone and close the main gate before the machine goes into Cyrodil, or at least I believe this is the case. I never messed around long enough to explore and find out.
I thoroughly convinced myself that after I beat the main storyline in Oblivion (I saved it for the very end of my playthrough), Kvatch would be restored to its former glory and my character would be made the new Count of Kvatch. I really think Bthesda missed the boat on this one. Why not? The previous Count was dead, presumably his descendants were, also. Hero of Kvatch is just a useless title. Being the Count could have been a real position with responsibilities, etc.
Someone needs to shed some light on how Gunjar died in the Helgen Keep. His death was always shrouded in mystery for me, as it seems that neither Alduin nor the Imperials killed him. He just lies dead there..
I think the "huge creature" the person from kvatch refers to is the giant siege engine from the opening cinematic that looks like it is suppose to drill down the gates
My theory is that The Sunken One is a rogue atronach that was either accidentally or intentionally summoned into the world by Slythe's father and in order to keep it satisfied and to prevent it from stomping around Cyrodiil, he taught Slythe to give it sacrifices to keep the creature in its cavern (maybe where it was first summoned? Maybe Slythe's father lured it there?). OR: The Sunken One is a rogue and unusually powerful storm atronach that manifested itself in sandstone cavern, the atronach was powerful enough to project its will onto the farm folk and rural dwellers living above ground. The Sunken One then proceeded to trick and threaten the farmers with death and damnation if it didn't receive offerings regularly. I know that atronachs have often been described as incapable of complex thoughts, but this was not an ordinary atronach. It used its ability to project its own thoughts into the farm folk to get what it wanted, maybe Slythe kept hearing strange whispers or got weird, sudden urges to go to sandstone cavern? Maybe Slythe felt a presences beneath his feet and that was The Sunken One manipulating his mind.
I think the "big creature" is referring to the great siege crawler, which was supposed to destroy the forces of martin septim during the battle of bruma. The crawler would have come through the a big gate, which the hero of kvaatch Managed to close in time. But exactly this door was also opened during the fall of kvatch, indicating that the siege crawler was also used here
I feel like I need to point out how at near the end of the main quest line you have to acquire a great sigil stone or whatever, now what do we have in that oblivion gate where we find the great sigil stone? well a giant deadric warmachine that is about the size of a deadric main tower with hammering legs carrying it. now judging by the big size of the gate it is marching on one could also figure that the warmacnine is also tall enough to poke it's open end (which has a sigil stone at the end of it, the stuff needed to sustain Oblivion gates) even if you do not remember this thing, you can also take a look at the dialog from the guards near the oblivion gate where they say there were multiple gates there and that there has to be a way to close them because the enemy closed the other ones. I am also pretty sure that he mentioned there being a main gate right in the middle and that you can see by the markings on the ground where they stood you also do see the warmachine in the opening cutscene, surely that was bigger and mightier than that of a single more powerful Storm Atranoch? (doubt I spelled that right, sorry) while the Sunken One sounds like a great adversary, you are still able to beat it alone, now look at the warmachine that you cannot fight and have to close the gate before it leaves the Deadlands
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Trust me, I know how bad the Dunmer voice is. I now have 83 different forms of throat hepatitis from doing it.
Camelworks I love you
Camelworks I like the dunmer voice....yea no...
Thank god for the mute button
Camelworks
it was okay dude don't fuss about it
I dont know maybe just read it normally
Are darkelfs chainsmokers?
Stefan Luckerbauer Have you ever heard of Jiub?
Off course, i seen him in Morrowind at the very first beginning.
Stefan Luckerbauer Then there's your answer.
The majority born and raised in ash, the chain smoker voice seems reasonable
Only Dunmer from Vvardenfell sound like that due to constantly breathing the ash that pours out of red mountain. Mainland Dunmer sound fairly normal as you can observe by listening to Dunmer living in Windhelm in ES5.
" Everyone is smoking crack; the city is overwhelmed! Run while you still can!"
"But it's only a matter of time before they're overwhelmed!"
@@MegaRazorback "HAAAAAAAA"
As well as THESE nuts
@@paalaasengstubbrud3524 This is insane! Oblivion's being trolled!
Haaaaa Google translate there's nothing to translate lol.
That's a hella long monologue for such a small piece of paper.
Slythe was always a small writer.
8309/835 carrying weight. nice...
Axsiro godmode is fun
@@Cervidaez This may be late but there's actually a mod that gives you obscene levels of carry weight without godmode, it's called Carry all you want and gives you 65,535 as a base carry weight and then its times Strength for even more!
Dark elf? I think you mean Ghoul
Viddi Kaddi *jiub
Smoothskin
You're finally awake. Not even that storm could wake you.
Morrowind
DRACO you were trying to cross the border right? Walked right into Kvatch, same as us, and that totally unremarkable priest over there.
That dunmer voice genuinely almost made me shit my pants...
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Speak quickly outlander, or go away
Wealth beyond measure outlander.
Speak, if you have aught to say worth the listening.
Yes Sera?
Jebodeiasque ... Muthsera
I'm pretty sure that the "large creature" that destroyed Kavatch was one of the daedric siege engines you see when you enter the great gate in Bruma. We know for a fact that there was a great gate at Kavatch.
I can make it can0n I can see what you mean, but why wouldn't they have used the siege engine on more cities sooner? They only attempt to use that later and its a race against time essetially to try and stop it, though that could just be passed off as shit writing on Bethesda's part.
Rick Baker maybe its overconfidence of the daedra, maybe they are confident that they can topple the other cities without it and it isnt until bruma that they bring it out in desperation and as a sort of "oh shit" button.
Rick Baker Because of Martin. Kvatch was attacked by the Daedra because the only person who could light the Dragonfires and foil Dagon's plan was living in Kvatch. Then they attacked Bruma, as mentioned in Jearl's orders, specifically to trap Martin at Cloud Ruler Temple and make sure he can't escape.
what if the creature was dagon leading his troops and retreating until the final battle at the white gold tower?
@@111455 It wasn't. It was the Siege Crawler. NPCs literally say it.
deep ones now sunken ones what next low ones
Buried Ones
Covered ones
The ones under your bed...
Shadow ones
No.. high ones
There is a possibility that the siege engine the deadra use could have been mistaken for a large beast given its centipede design. But it could have been the Sunken one.
Well on the deadlands dlc for ESO there are centipede like dreadra roaming around the oblivion plain and they look just like that "machine" near to the end of the game in TES 4: oblivion
Your dark elf voice sounds a lot like Skyrims hagravens
Wolfdua never played morrowind?
The great creature was the seige engine. At the bruma gate quest you can see it and they mention that a great gate appeared at kvatch too. Therefore the seige engine destroyed the city
I believe too it was the seige engine because they talk just about 1 giant creature and he is not really taller than a daedroth or a xivilai but the seige engine definitely is
camel said that there was no sign of seige engine.
Max Gaming&Tutorial he forgot about the great gate. and well the great gate has a thing that can destroy a city .
Thomas Watson I agree. This is nothing more than a family worshiping a daedra, and paranoia surrounding the destruction of kvatch via the Great gate and war machine.
There wasn't any after you destroy it at Bruma either, and it makes it out of the gate (if only a little bit.) this is probably just oversight by the developers. Not to mention The Sunken One isn't really tall enough to just "come over the walls" of the city. Also ESWIki (though i know it is only a wiki and therefor edited by fans) states; "The Siege Crawler (note; crawler, meaning it could theoretically crawl up the walls of the city) was first used at the Battle of Kvatch, in which it crushed the city's defenses, allowing the Lesser Daedra to pour through and slaughter the towns-people," though when you arrive there arent really any holes in the city walls themselves, (i mean, the main gate is still completely intact for crying out loud)
Love these detective episodes, keep it up!
its great :))
I thought that voice was from Jiub, until you said in the comments that you did it. That voice was so well done :O
Same well done camel
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😂😂 I am still laughing about that.
I thought the giant creature thing was a Siege Crawler. You know, the big thing you see in the Bruma Great Gate? They said it can only come through a great gate, like in Kvatch
@Camelworks, I think you should investigate sithis. What is he? An ancient god responsible for the creation of Nirn? Or a lie by Mephala to secure her assassin supporting tendencies? I think there is more to him than what most players think. Love the vids
Lazerkat789 sithis is the soul of Padomay, and is a powerful ancient being the opposite of AKA, however the dark brotherhood most likely are actually worshiping mephala
Iron Wolf
The opposite of Aka is Lorkhan
Lazerkat789
Watch Zaria Zhakaron's lord video on it (The first one if I recall correctly)
He's like the "son" of Padomay or something
Yea that is some of the lore. But there is some lore out there that states that sithis was actually made when a group of chimer, who worshiped mephala, fused Padomay's soul with deadric influences. There is more to him than we know :p
Then there is the fact that the dark brotherhood was born from a matron of the Morang Tong lets not forget
I always thought the huge creature being referred to was the massive crawler during the battle of bruma
It is. That's the siege engine
I have over 3000 hours on Oblivion and Ive never heard of this
Ithaquatic I know right me too! I thought I had done everything in Oblivion... I was wrong
Ithaquatic then you're not playing oblivion right 😂 an RPG is supposed to be explored. Sure, do quests but explore the world you're in!
They sound like this in Morrowind only. They have more of a low toned voice in Skyrim too but it's not nearly as intense as Morrowind.
Oblivion is a bit of a special flower in the TES series as many of said. But a damn good special flower for its own reasons :P
Yeah, unless you traverse every single inch, you're going to miss quests. It just happens, it's not "Not playing Oblivion Right"
I remember finding the dead guy and killing the Sunken One, but I have never found the quest start.
Cyrodiil is my city
Vvardenfell is my backyard
Skyrim is my playground
Tamriel is my town
Oblivion is my school
Bruma is my continent
I posted this in an older detective video, but I thought I should share it again here:
I think it would be cool if Camel made a detective character and role-played as him during these videos. He could even have a follower dressed in the local guard attire who could give general info on some of the locals and locations in the video. He could then have a house or somewhere where he brings all of the evidence back to analyse. Just a thought, though the videos are still great as is.
Tailin Sero That would be the most awesome thing ever. I love that idea. I wish Camel would do that!
Tailin Sero Yes this sounds awesome!
Tailin Sero Like shoddycast's "Storyteller" right?
no.......
Super gay
Lol that Dunmer must've smoked a lot of cigarettes in his life... Vvardenfell slims hahaha
sandpaper cigarettes.
This comment is underrated. Vvardenfell slims cracked me up
@@ExternalDialogue your sacrifice will be rewarded by our man emperor of mankind
No evidence of a siege engine? You kill one during the invasion of Chorrol. You don't see it again on tamriel because you stop it before it gets the chance.
And correct me if I am mistaken but Martin talks about the gate crasher at least twice. With its oblong shape it could easily be mistaken for a daedra.
Bruma, not Chorrol.
Lady Almaixztellia ,the Slayer of Men Bruma...that's where men are women.
18:26 "There are no signs of siege engines". "I have entered the Great Gate. The Daedric Siege Engine is crawling towards the portal! If it exits the Gate before I reach the Sigil Stone, all is lost." - The Great Gate (Stage 10).
Rotten Cabbage no signs of siege engines near the city as there are no great hole blown through the walls for entry points
@@maximutatro3176they bring it back, before closing the gate. It was more like a giant battery ram rather than a catapult.
I'm like 99.9% sure that "the sunken one" is a reference to Cthulu
Adam Wiley I doubt that. Camel himself highlighted a quest referencing HP Lovecraft's work. So since they already did one I doubt they would be incline to do another. Also, Cthulhu and friends are unfathomable horrors, difficult if even possible to comprehend. Same can't be said for a single elemental.
Bethsda LOVES Lovercaft stuff though it isn't out of the realm of possibility that they referenced his work again in a single throwaway line
There's absolutely no reason to think that "oh they did one, so they wouldn't do another!" It's not some fucking quota they have to fill, that's just ridiculous. The name "The Sunken One" IS a reference to the Lovecraft mythos, it doesn't mean the genuine article needs to feature in the quest itself. Notice how the OP referred to the actual line "the sunken one". The line itself is a reference, the reverence of the hidden cult offering tribute to a powerful being - is a reference. The whole thing doesn't have to be neat and fit in the same little box in order for it to be a reference.
The sunken one is actually a term used for the elder god lord(father) dagon the one who rules the deepoines of innsmouth which is referenced in an oblivion quest, also dagon in the stories is the one who will be the first to invade once all are awoken with his half man creations that will come from the dark ocean, the questline is innsmouth but kvatch has everything to be starting bell told about in the dagon portion of the cthulhu mythos, from the name to being the first to invade, to one of his possible followers having a title attributed to his namesake and even the plane of oblivion can be considered a "dark ocean" and if dagon created the sunken one it would explain its power, name, and that it would ring the bell for the invasion, also the fact that like in lovecraft, hell breaks loose when people stop giving offerings to the representative of an elder god, after all its not the offering that matters its the servility when it comes to dagon, he is the only one that looks to conquer in the mythos, cthulhu wants to awaken the outer gods and bring them to our realm to live again as their priest and the rest just exist, but dagon wants control
The Sunken One...
The Dark Ones of Hackdirt....
The Crimson Dawn....
All Connected by Mahrunes Dagon...
Listening to Camel's Dunmer voice... Not my proudest fap.
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There's no sign of the siege engine because of the limitations of the game, they couldn't make it run on consoles (even pc's back then had trouble) without walling off the cities completely and making them entire cells that exist outside the overworld.
The siege engine destroyed kvatch. It came from the great gate that was shut down alongside the other gates after the town fell.
Oh realllly? Than where is the proof? If it's not in the game it is not canon
@@tfordham13 You're brainless. Every city had to be walled off due to limitations with processing power running on the 360. There's the fucking proof.
@@tfordham13Play the game I guess. Martin mentioned that there was a siege engine.
@@Ghost-gp6ct I did play it
Good morning. I've been awake all night. Insomnia is fun.
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Rid the Looter WDS same
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Man same, I'm up at 5 30 am
Marcus Underwood
its 3:38 where I am
I always figured that the 'huge creature' was in reference to the Siege Engine that comes out of the Great Gate. It definitely resembles a giant creature
The thing that destroyed Kvatch was a Daedric Siege Crawler. We never seen one at the other cities since the Oblivion Gates were closed before a Great Oblivion Gate could be opened. This info comes during the Defense of Bruma quest.
That's a pretty cool trve black metal voice!
When you say he's been there for a long time, I actually think that's huge amounts of assumption - a belief in the Sunken One can exist for far longer than the being itself existed in that place. I reckon there were just some superstitious farmers, and the Sunken One was just a surviving Atronach from the attack who felt no particular binding to Dagon and so decided to go sit in a cave. It just so happens that that cave is where a bunch of hicks thought their destroyer-God lay, and it coincided with the destruction of Kvatch.
this is just as big of an assumption....
I think Occam's razor would apply here, favouring Camels explanation as it is simpler.
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Am I the onley one who thinks he's Dunmer voice is pretty good ? My voice would have died at the fist sentence already . So good job Camel no matter what it was verry enjoyable! Thanks for another good video. I was going through this series again and I found out i never seen this one so thanks again for the high quality content.
Does he sound like Saint juib or am I just racist
The huge creature seen at the Kvatch gate was the siege engine. It seemed pretty obvious considering there was a siege engine at Bruma which was also a great gate and had a timer that if you ran out the engine would get through and level the city
This video is killing me with nostalgia for Oblivion!
Alex da Vinci no shit, seeing those bits of forests and grass that sists around kvach gives me some serious nostalgia
From doing the quest myself, it seems he mistook the Deadra attacking Kvatch for his god, The Sunken One, showing some form of disatisfaction.
He didn't see the siege engine, and I'm pretty sure Kvatch was the first use of a Seige engine, as 1 Oblivion gate outside of each city doesn't seem to be enough, so it must have been the "huge" Oblivion gate that some of the survivors talk about.
Then when he woke up and saw that the siege ruined all of Kavatch he went to pay tribute fearing this entity was responsible (though it wasn't).
As we can see, The Sunken One is a powerful Lesser Daedra, so it probably managed to manifest itself but limited to a certain location and rarely takes its form. Kvatch being attacked by Daedra (By the sky colouring and other Oblivion aesthetics present) means he must have linked the two, and jumped to a conclusion and set off.
The fact you get a quest upon entering an empty building because it's empty, must mean that it must have been left fairly recently as if someone vanished suddenly, like, maybe he was making breakfast and looked out of a window, only seeing the end of the destruction, then suddenly leaving.
I was more here because I wanted to see if this belief in an entity was connected to Hackdirt, seeing if this sort of similar powerful other worldly entity is what Hackdirt want to appease.
camelworks is the best channel on TH-cam, haven't been able to watch anything else for a few days
The power of the Thu’um ain’t got shit on Camel’s Way of the Dunmer Voice.
uh What about the giant Daedric siege machine? i thought it was explained that the larger broken gate already outside kvatch was a siege gate that let through the many legged mechanical siege beast.
I always figured that big walking siege machine from the intro and battle of Bruma destroyed Kvatch
they mentioned a giant beast that spits fire
it's a giant beast like machine that spits fire and looks big enough to destroy walls
Oh of course, I believe you camel, the storm atronach that I one shotted at level 5 was surely the one who destroyed an entire city full of powerful mages, knights, and gladiators.
+Sassy Frass I beat him with Oscuro's Oblivion overhaul and Maskar's Oblivion overhaul while the difficulty was at 60%...
+Sassy Frass What did you play? skyrim casual fanboy...
Alexandrewvice At level 5, all the enemies are super weak. I took on the Sunken One at a slightly lower difficulty at lv 30 and it was fucking difficult, I died like five times
Try using the mods he used, you know not what difficulty is till you do
Level scaling, lol
Bethesda pls
Nice of you to look into this cold case from its watery grave.
thats a pretty good vvardenfell dark elf voice
Ive always been a elder scrolls fan love this channel the way you make the smallest details or inconspicuous things into great stories. It makes it all seem new you have a good way with words perhapps you should try your hand at writing fantasy or fiction
Theory Suggestion:
- Why was Rufio wanted dead in the first place? Dialogue would suggest that he possibly raped and murdered a woman, and his location, the Inn of Ill Omen, serves as a place of refuge from the authorities. Perhaps the person who performed the Black Sacrament to begin the contract is the same person who admits to praying to the Night Mother in the Imperial City Prison? A Black Sacrament ritual site can be found in one of the house basements in the Imperial City. Are there more scattered around Tamriel? Is the one in the Imperial City related to Rufio?
"So I wanted somebody murdered. So I prayed to the Night Mother. What, is that a crime now? They even took my house, those bastards! Agh!"
Side note - The Inn of Ill Omen is and its involvement in the Dark Brotherhood quest line is a Lord of the Rings reference.
Mr.Bootleg I think someone already did it and came to the conclusion that it is the guy in the Imperial city prison
faffing about Yeah, as a matter of fact I think Camel already mentioned that in his Oblivion Easter Eggs video! Good thinking, though, even if it was a little late
The fact that 350,000 people have watched a video this ‘non-mainstream’ tells you both how big the elder scrolls fandom is and just how starved said fandom is for new content
But would the frighten people of Kavatch not also think that giant siege machine being a creature?
This was an awesomely informative video. I've always loved this little gem in Oblivion. More detective videos Camelworks! Keep up the good work!
RIP this mans throat
I muted when he xid the cringe voice
When america came to Japan under Teddy Roosevelt, the people of Japan thought the Americans came in a giant metal dragon. I believe the developers were making reference to it. "A giant came over the walls" reminds me of the vision Ureial Septum had before character creation. I believe the monster the survivor referred to was the war machien, and due to a lack of understanding they believed it to be a living creature.
I mean, couldn't the giant creature be Mehrunes Dagon himself? He seemed to step over the walls of the Imperial City with ease and was able to tople buildings pretty easily as well
TheDigDeepScore that large thing wasn't mehrunes dagon that was the seige machine.if it was mehrunes dagon he would have destroyed cyrodil.
Also, would Dragon not have been kept at bay by whatever prevented his full emergence prior to the end-game.
TheDigDeepScore ya the monster over the wall would definitely be the siege engine. Cus it was definitely used because they spawned a great gate. And it’s not like it knocked down the walls so it must have climbed over
I listen to a playlist of your ES detective videos while I sleep sometimes and I somehow always wake up at ur demonic dunmer voice thx
Your Dunmer voice is on point!
Kavach ... Burning, Crumbled, Desolate... YUP I saved it Im a HERO! See I saved a priest... Now he can live a long and fruitful life!
.... Right?
Love these detective episodes
Really enjoying the Detective series Camel. Good work!
*sees camel works uploads a oblivion vid
*pauses porn
Pelinal Whitestrake Hah, same. All five different webpages of it lol
camel is one of my favorite youtubers he actually explains things and looks at the facts and evidence
Remember, correlation does not equal causation.
your alliterations are on point my guy. you sound like a poet. the way you weave words, willingly winning my wistful mind.
That Dunmer voice hurt my throat
I love finding an amazing new channel with TONS of videos to get into!
Good work camel, amazing video as allways!
I always believed it was Mehrunes himself that came over the wall. Also, I thought I had done everything possible in this game, but apparently always neglected to actually go inside the farm. This whole quest is new to me 😂
The dunmer voice is spot on, and as a blackmetal singer, I say good job and mead or barley wines will help!
So I never played this game as much as others have. I decided to do this quest as I never knew it was a thing before. I paused the video as you came across the farmers body and played it myself. Not gonna lie, I was kind of....disappointed. I thought it would have gone on longer, I thought maybe the Sunken one would have a unique model, or maybe you'd get some special weapon or armor. Nope. it just ends D:
I love this series. It's wonderful for people like me who want to know everything there is to know about TES
You wasted the effort on that voice, the only reason Dunmer have that voice is due to breathing in in the ash filled air of Morrowind. Dunmer from Cyrodil would have the normal voice they have in the game.
The great creature that came over the wall was the siege crawler lmao
If the Sunken One is so powerful, how come they are relatively easy to defeat?
Ishmam Ahmed Same with Jygalaag. No matter what, people are gonna bitch so you might as well make it easy.
He chose to allow you victory
duuuude that voice was rad. keep up the detective videos, they're awesome and you're one of the best narrators I've heard on here! :)
Is the huge creature not Mehrunes Dagon?
Cormac Doyle no
Cormac Doyle its probably the seige engine seen in the opening cutscene of oblivion.
The huge creature referred to is probably the daedric siege engine
you even see it in the opening cutscene
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I've been playing for years and I never knew about this quest! Gosh there's so much in elder scrolls games!
Have you ever thought of doing a crossover video maybe with Avarti or MrRhexx
Faerith yea i don't like that guy to
Faerith Why?
I know youve probably figured this out by now but the "huge creature" you're looking for is that giant moving battle ram/seige engine thing you see in the great gate outside bruma..because they put a great gate in front of kvatch too.
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@Camelworks - the thing that went over the wall of Kvatch was the daedric siegewalker. You see it in the last battle to close the main Oblivion gate north of Bruma. The machine is referenced in the quest as you enter.. There is a time limit to get the sigil stone and close the main gate before the machine goes into Cyrodil, or at least I believe this is the case. I never messed around long enough to explore and find out.
I thoroughly convinced myself that after I beat the main storyline in Oblivion (I saved it for the very end of my playthrough), Kvatch would be restored to its former glory and my character would be made the new Count of Kvatch. I really think Bthesda missed the boat on this one. Why not? The previous Count was dead, presumably his descendants were, also. Hero of Kvatch is just a useless title. Being the Count could have been a real position with responsibilities, etc.
I love these longer TES Detective videos. Are you doing youtube full-time?
i swear to god, this is the most entertainment i have had in a long long time, i can listen to you talk for anything for ever
700 hours in Oblivion, my favorite game of all time, and I have never walked inside that farm.
Ohmylord I can just imagine the expressions making that voice trying to endure the pain.
Someone needs to shed some light on how Gunjar died in the Helgen Keep.
His death was always shrouded in mystery for me, as it seems that neither Alduin nor the Imperials killed him. He just lies dead there..
I assumed he just took a mortal blow while escaping into the keep but managed to get inside before he died.
This feels very Lovecraftian...
I LOVE IT.
I think the "huge creature" the person from kvatch refers to is the giant siege engine from the opening cinematic that looks like it is suppose to drill down the gates
18:10 I thought he was referring to the siege crawler, like the one that attacked Bruma, especially because the dude also says that it breathed fire
Holy shot I just realised that Kvatch from that angle at the beginning of the video looks like a castle I saw in Edinburgh.
Hey Camelworks, I'm a big fan of this series. Could you do a video on the galdur legend in skyrim?
Thank you for this, I love this series so much
I’ve played Oblivion since 2009. Played thousands of hours. And I never knew this quest even existed. God I love this game.
I believe the giant creature that the Kvatch survivors was referring too was the Daedric Siege Engine that you encounter in the Battle of Bruma.
My theory is that The Sunken One is a rogue atronach that was either accidentally or intentionally summoned into the world by Slythe's father and in order to keep it satisfied and to prevent it from stomping around Cyrodiil, he taught Slythe to give it sacrifices to keep the creature in its cavern (maybe where it was first summoned? Maybe Slythe's father lured it there?).
OR: The Sunken One is a rogue and unusually powerful storm atronach that manifested itself in sandstone cavern, the atronach was powerful enough to project its will onto the farm folk and rural dwellers living above ground. The Sunken One then proceeded to trick and threaten the farmers with death and damnation if it didn't receive offerings regularly. I know that atronachs have often been described as incapable of complex thoughts, but this was not an ordinary atronach. It used its ability to project its own thoughts into the farm folk to get what it wanted, maybe Slythe kept hearing strange whispers or got weird, sudden urges to go to sandstone cavern? Maybe Slythe felt a presences beneath his feet and that was The Sunken One manipulating his mind.
I think the "big creature" is referring to the great siege crawler, which was supposed to destroy the forces of martin septim during the battle of bruma. The crawler would have come through the a big gate, which the hero of kvaatch Managed to close in time. But exactly this door was also opened during the fall of kvatch, indicating that the siege crawler was also used here
Man, I first thought you brought in another voice actor, but I was bamboozled! Tea and honey on me, mate. Good work!
And on this chest is his second journal " *AAAACCccchhh* , as..."
:') I'm in tears.
I feel like I need to point out how at near the end of the main quest line you have to acquire a great sigil stone or whatever, now what do we have in that oblivion gate where we find the great sigil stone? well a giant deadric warmachine that is about the size of a deadric main tower with hammering legs carrying it. now judging by the big size of the gate it is marching on one could also figure that the warmacnine is also tall enough to poke it's open end (which has a sigil stone at the end of it, the stuff needed to sustain Oblivion gates)
even if you do not remember this thing, you can also take a look at the dialog from the guards near the oblivion gate where they say there were multiple gates there and that there has to be a way to close them because the enemy closed the other ones. I am also pretty sure that he mentioned there being a main gate right in the middle and that you can see by the markings on the ground where they stood
you also do see the warmachine in the opening cutscene, surely that was bigger and mightier than that of a single more powerful Storm Atranoch? (doubt I spelled that right, sorry)
while the Sunken One sounds like a great adversary, you are still able to beat it alone, now look at the warmachine that you cannot fight and have to close the gate before it leaves the Deadlands
Hi Camel ! Nice video, thanks.
What is this ominous and interesting music playing in the background of your TES detective vids ?