Exposing Scammers - The Bank and Customer Both Tried to Cheat me!! - Car Dealer Vlogs
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- In this video, I'm sharing how a woman tried to scam me with a Low Credit Sub-Prime Financing loan and she also applied for several other loans on the same day. Watch out for these scams and don't let someone else take your car or money!
If you're ever in a situation where someone is trying to take your car or money, don't let them get away with it! I was lucky to catch the scammer that tried to cheat me on a Sub-Prime Auto Loan, and I hope you'll learn from my story and be careful about what kind of scams you fall for!
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First red flag, if her son is a dealer, why is she buying a car from you. Especially when she is out of state.
Beat me too it I thought the same if her son is dealer go get her a wholesale car rather than retail
Yeah. He saw $$$ and overlooked those red flags.
She knew the game and knew how to play it!
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I hope you do better on these vids than you do with Auctions and a dealership.
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In the 24 years I owned a car lot, I made every buyer arrange their own financing. I started this from day one. I also never sold aftermarket warranties, I never sold any luxury vehicles, most every vehicle I sold was a lease return 4-wheel drive truck or an SUV with a remaining factory warranty. I had happy customers, and I never lost any sleep at night. I'm sure there was money lost by not selling cheaper vehicles. and selling to those with bad credit, but my health and peace of mind was more important.!
@ricklandon3452 my hat's off to you for running a successful car lot.
It's not the first time you've had to dig yourself out of a mess after saying, "I never do this."
Another good deed is punished.
I remember the previous video well.
As a dealer I'LL GIVE NO CUSTOMER OR DEALER NO TITLE UNLESS WHOLESALE AND FUNDS PAYED IN FULL. OR ONCE I SUBMIT THE PAPERWORK THRU THE DMV I'LL PUT A LIEN ON THE TITLE IF NOT PAYED IN FULL CAUSE YOU HAVE 30 DAYS. " You silly bro. " I dont play with my money like that or my business. 💯
He’s a dumb ass lmao
for real ive never trusted or given a customer or dealer the title before being paid and if its a bank deal i do paperwork and assign lien myself.
Craig I know it is another charge but have you looked into one of those services that some dealers use that do all the dmv paperwork that way the title never gets into the customers hands.
You can’t put a lien on a title you no longer own, a bank loan means the bank now owns that vehicle. That would be illegal to put a lien against someone else’s property especially after the bank or buyer took possession and went through the process of getting the title into their name.
Why would YOU put a lien on a vehicle when the bank is financing to the customer? The bank should be the LIEN HOLDER not you.
I would keep the title and give it to the customer only when the funds clear on your bank account.
Why in the world did yall give the title to her in the first place? Car sales, 101..
this was my first question if she is using a bank why would the title not have been sent to the lein holder?
has to because they dont issue plates at all dealers
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As a dealer owner i scratch my head how you manage to stay in business with those rookie mistakes. I have been watching the channel for a while ave noticed things that you do but never commented, different people different strategies, but to trust a subprime that she will do the right thing and leave yourself hanging with a big amount of money is outrageous
My thoughts exactly……
He is a serial
Entrepreneur. has many Income streams
I am wondering how he gave her the title, I have never ever seen a title for a car unless I am paying in full I have never been subprime, was this a subprime perk that she gets the title while still owing the car?
No just the way it works some times when dealing with out of state customers. Prime example-back many years ago(2006) I was working traveling construction. Picked up a long term gig in MS-but originally from NC. Came home for Christmas & went truck shopping. Dealer got the loan done, signed all my docs-but he couldn’t do my title work, so he gave it all to me to have done when I got back to MS. Took everything to the courthouse there, got plates and registration. Dealer calls me 35 days later screaming about why I hadn’t done the paperwork (Westlake) was biting his ear off. Took an additional 4 months for the courthouse to finally track down my NC Title-had been stuffed in a drawer. Luckily they unfroze the dealers funds once I sent them the copy of the registration.
Don’t give them the title next time. Turn it in yourself.
How does this customer have the title with a loan attached to it? Standard procedure is to always send the title to the DMV they live at. The DMV will retitle the car in her name with the bank lien listed and send it to said bank. The customer should never have even seen the title at all.
You make so much sense. Unlike this 25+ minute ramble. ??? wTf.
also, that vehicle is probably in a shipping container 1/2 way to Turkmenistan by now.
Exactly. Such common sense. Wtf is he doing sending her the title??? Dumbest thing I ever heard...
they dont issue plates
@@adammonahan687 you would never do that if you were a tote the note place
In Nebraska, when a car is financed, the title goes to the lien holder and when the lien is paid off, the owner will get the title.
Same in Cali
Same in PA. I had an issue getting my title once on a paid off car. I talked to the bank, they told me the office that the title was physically at. I went to the office and demanded my title and I got it, after a month of BS.
Same in CT!
Not in Minnesota. But, if you sell a vehicle that you do not have a clear title on you will be going to prison (literally).
It has to go through the DMV system first to get a new title issued with the financing institution as the lien holder. Craig's mistake was handing over the title and not sending it Fed Ex to the DMV office in her town.
This is pure Insanity to me How are these banks letting the customers have titles They're not supposed to have the title until it's paid off....
Thats my question
He has mentioned that the girl is from Maine, and he is in New Hampshire. When I have had to do out of state financing I usually have to trust the customer to do the title work as well with lien if I don't have the agent on that state. What confuses me is that why is he not putting a lien on that title now? Because most states allow that.
@@arslanburki3286 yeah it should be illegal and should require the bank or the dealer to handle it. State rules need to change for that one.
You can't trust anyone with any title unless they own out right the vehicle. It's crazy though.
The dealer made that mistake cause in the deaker class they touch on that. " They don't play that in florida. " 💯 DMV WILL COME FOR YOU. 😮
Happened to me, got a clean title in the mail. Not sure who made the mistake. Only happened once out of many cars purchased
Man rubs that microphone like he's trying to get a genie out of a bottle.
Lol 😂😂😂😂
I think his mike was stuck up his Wasoo!
yup. annoying.
After all that rubbing, I expected a moan.
I use to think commericals and ads were annoying , I looked forward to seeing them during this video
#1 lesson learned: Don’t break your own rules!
And Craig is the guy who charges people to teach them how to run a car dealership. Smh
Holy repetition Batman. Without it this would be a 5 minute video.
Craig, the background rustling noise in this. Idea DROVE ME CRAZY!
Same!!!
Like, I know this isn’t his first video. Come on!
You can't figure out that planning and making videos is is time-consuming and that it's difficult to film as it is, in addition to running a business?
What a world we live in. Smh
You guys aren’t professional movie makers. Hes making a simple TH-cam video. Geesh you guys complain about the audio is flipping ridiculous. The world is noisy live with it.
I don’t have any issues hearing what he said. Just like when you’re at a dealer right next to a freeway and you’re talking to the salesman
@@andydhillon1977right? Like he’s supposed to film everything in a sound studio to soothe these guys audiophile ears. Instead of running his business, he should build a studio for the comfort of his viewers
“Actually they are running a train on me” 😂🤣💀☠️
I appreciate these videos Craig. Thanks for being open and helping others not make the same mistakes.
Sorry you have to hear negative comments from people who deemed themselves perfect in business 😂.
Thanks Craig 👍
To quote Margot Robbie, in the Big Short, when you hear Sub-Prime, think SHIT.
Naked in a bathtub
West lake is the worst…they also have first payment default where the dealer has to buy the car back if customer misses first payment🤮🤮
I’ve never ever heard of this happening because we always put a lien on the title and send it to the bank the customer gets a memo title unless they paid cash for it in full
The content this lady provided you almost compensates for the huge pain it was.
Best part of subprime is you can overcharge as much as you want for a pos
That bank is a Crook.
30 day late? And they hold all your money from all the cars? Should be illegal.
And they were being paid interest on the money by the borrower for money they still had. Craig should get the interest.
When I was in the business I could tell you stories about a non sub prime bank shenanigans that would blow your mind. To make a long story short the dealership (a major one) jacked up the wholesale cost of the MSRP to the bank with the banks complete knowledge.
Westlake is an ABSOLUTE PITA. Hands down the most stickler I’ve ever ran across.
Lotta banks can't afford the paper they write the loans on. Belly up time
It is called incentive to help them out with a problem.
How did she get the Title?
Why did you need to try the other key fob without a battery, instead of just replacing the battery in the one that was dead? That's more confusing than the customer's story
he is a bit of a goof
They could have used the battery from the test fob.
The good thing of the crap situation is that you learn to never accept deals of that kind.
Get a microphone for your camera. The noise distracts from the video
Dont give the title to the customer, send it directly to the bank.
Your office manager is a real gem. She’s good.
25 minutes l will never get back. Talk about repeating yourself! 😅 repeating yourself 😅
Dude loves hearing himself talk.
I do not understand how people in this day and age are still getting scammed.
greed by both parties
A dealership should never give the title to the person taking the car, they should always give it to the bank that is financing the car. The story does not make sense.
I'm glad this all worked out for you. I couldn't do what you do...nine months of that nightmare. Apparently she was so bad her own son wouldn't sell her a car. Side note- I hope you can bring back the give a car to a person in need. I really enjoyed that.
In Connecticut we don't see the title of the car until it is paid off. The dealer takes care of the paperwork and sends the title to the lien holder. Its not given to the buyer to give to the town hall to process ......
Same in Texas., never heard of this.
You want some cheese for that wine
I think only 8 states allow the lien holder to hold a title.
What! It’ll start with no battery in the fob?!!! I just dealt with the same issue!! Wish I’d known. You’re always teaching, thank you.
Hi Craig. Jesus, I think you were very lucky this time, bro. It's like that guy who bought that Corvette off you and was short of money 💰, and he was a subscriber 😮. How low can you get. I reckon the bank was out of order holding back money like that. Just be careful, Craig. I'm so happy that everything worked out okay for you because you're such an Honest and Decent Car dealer 👏. It's so hard trying to figure out if you were scammed. They get smarter all the time. Good on Lauren, it's great to have her watch your back. Respect Lauren 🙏. Great video, as always, Craig. 😅👋👋🇨🇮
PS, we love ❤️ your other channel with your brother
Wow!! Great information ! Another great video.
A lot of subprime buyers are subprime humans.
Hahahaha 😂😂😂😂
Well done! The effort and passion are evident.
do you ever switch it up and maybe make like a positive? or good news video? something else besides rants?
It's a car business. That hardly happens lol
He used to make good flipping content with German. Just stale shit now
Hahaha nope 😂😂😂
Good news videos don't get views!
@fbrewx2560 that's the sad part. No one wants to hear good things anymore
I nearly went through something similar. A few years ago, a customer got an Impala from me, then said "I'm going to title it in Arkansas" (I'm operate in Texas). That wasn't an issue, I just gave her an Arkansas Power of Attorney, and asked her to get it notarized. She claimed that she didn't have time, she needed the car now, that the POA wasn't necessary, she would title the car later, that I should just give her the title now. I refused, and she threw a fit. Getting it notarized wasn't an issue, because there was one right across the street, we could look out my window and see into the notary's window, that's how close. To make things more convenient, I called the notary, and she came over, and the customer was still coming up with excuses as to why she couldn't fill out the POA and wanted me to just hand her the title. When she realized she wasn't going to win, she finally relented. She never made a payment, I had to repo her. Then she paid up to get the car back, cut out the GPS, and got repo'd again (not only did she keep the car at her apartment complex where the car was repossessed the first time, she parked it in the same parking spot where it was repossessed the first time, so what was the point of disabling the GPS?)
People are stupid.
Dealer here. Great story. I guess she showed you!
you can't fix stupid@@mexicanspec
Worked at a large R.V. dealership that sold to customers that lived out of state. We started using an out of state titling service that the customers paid for. We went from 40% compliance to 100%. Total control!!
Keep your head up Flying Wheels
NOW THIS is GREAT CONTENT!!!!
You have a great attitude despite it all, and a great employee.
Wow! Lauren did a great job!
This is the world we live in. People are extremely selfish.
That's a crazy story I'm glad it was resolved. It sucks that you were put in that position
great stuff thanks
I wouldn't let anything out of my sight until I had full payment
When dealing with clowns, it often turns into a circus.
Good on you... every day we learn a new twist with finance of Motors... its never dull... but better have the cash then the car...
@10:05 I love the Lexus SC400 in the background..! Is it for sell?
You and thousand of sub prime dealerships get scammed and drag the lenders into a messy situation. I won't mention where I work but I've been in this business for 28 years and seen so much wrong doing by the buyer, red flags and firework alerts but you continue to work with them... only to get scammed 😢. It's part of the business we work in. Love the vids, keep them coming and good luck out there 👍
Craig do not use that bank again. They held the money because the bank can lend more showing their monetary asset formulae. There are lots of (bad credit lenders out there). Use one that works with you. The other suggestion which you know too well is put a lien on the title before handing title out. The old saying nice guys finish last. Do not compromise your work experience and knowledge when a car sits too long on the lot. Have it sit there instead of going through all the baby sitting and bullshit you went through. Lesson learned. Good luck buddy I applaud your courage for sharing your mistakes...
Westlake is a good lender to deal with on ultra deep sub-prime, plus they’ve been in this game A LONG TIME. They are just extremely stickler. But most any other lender would have done similar. Westlake couldn’t legally repo the Expedition since they weren’t listed as lien holder. Unfortunately it’s on the dealers in these situations. I’ve had to repo a many for dealers in my area for stuff like this, bad checks etc. It’s always fun times
Great video.
So glad I don’t do retail anymore ugh. That sucked
The train joke cracked me up 😂
No good dead goes unpunished. The customer gets all the vehicle when you get all the money.
Experience is what you get, when you dont get what you want. You got some experience
I am a MA dealer. In MA the lien thing is almost never an issue. In NH with the small town halls being all loose in how they do business they will forget or overlook the lien. It's hard to drive an hour or two to these NH town to do it yourself (or worse Maine). To the non dealers about the late payment being an issue, first payment after funding needs to be made by the customer or the finance company kicks it back to the dealer. Just the first. Since the funding never happened and she is late now that is an issue
I would have issued a a temp plate untill the bank paid for the car then issue the title. I think this is what they do in NJ unless you pay cash like I did when I purchased the Siverado from Flying Wheels.
how did she get the title? never heard of someone getting a title before it's paid in full
I financed a Jeep with Westlake Financial in 2017.
Put 30% down, paid it off in one year. Westlake was awesome for me.
Craig how do you remain such a decent and compassionate person with all the lies and scams coming at you?? Good to see a genuinely honest dealer 😀👋🇱🇷🌈💯♥️😎
I knew comedian Danny Polischuk had a side business. Loving the side hustle.
Damn that sucks. What a nightmare.
I love it when this states in the upper East Coast handle act like 200+ miles is far far away. That’s almost a grocery run here in the West. ✌🏽
Can you do a follow-up on why she received the title instead of the bank?
no i am tired of hearing about this stupid story
@@kelly00000111111 don't watch.
Didn't I watch this a year ago?
I'm confused about the battery in the key fob deal. Why not just replace the battery?
lmao craig has been getting trained nooo!!!
Thank you for repeating everything 20 times I almost forgot the first time you said it.
West lake is the worst! I’m sorry to hear you deal with them! They had my credit report marked as late when I wasn’t late. Luckily there was a class action suit and they had to delete all negative remarks they made on credit reports! It was a 24 month loan that was paid off in less than a year! Never late!
How did she get the title? I have bought several used cars so far in my life, a dealer has never given me the title. Is this only for subprime? Cause that is not fair they get titles and we regular credit users dont.
Go get em Craig!!
lol at you testing the key when you could just put a battery in the remote haha. Also the new camera looks good but the audio needs some work.
Love the vids though 😉
If you call her out and you’re legally allowed to do… I guarantee she’ll comply!
I'm my state the buyer don't get the original title from the dealer unless it's completely paid for if it's financed the title is sent from the dealer straight to the clerks office in the hands of the person from dealership then couple weeks later the buyer gets the copy of the title with the lien holder on it so there's no way of getting away with a car you don't get paid for from the bank basically here the dealer does the transfer and makes sure everything is done right here
Wow! What a terrible tale! The lesson here is that no good deed goes unpunished!
Hey Craig, I worry about prime customers being a victim of identity theft so I have to double look over every thing with them
Oh and I find it funny, I actually chuckle, whenever I hear people from up North emphasizing there's no rust on the vehicle. Down here in Texas we don't even think about it. 😂
There is no such thing as low balling one of those vehicles
Crush a suppository and snort it every time Craig says Title
I’d be shitting for WEEKS if I played your game after watching this video… LMFAO 😂😂😂😂
He needs to lay off the Adderall just a little
@@ourgreatsurrenderinchiefjo4245 That’s for sure… I don’t think it’s “actual” booger sugar, but +1 for the Adderall poppers!
Cool new intro!!!
Is that a Selectric Typewriter behind Loren's desk? Maybe you can get her a copy of Word Perfect for her computer. lol.
Idk what the legality on this would be, but maybe it'd be a good idea to have a "just incase" key made for repossession purposes when you finance a car.
go team Laruen. great VIDEO
I live in Canada, is the Title the same as a registration of the car? I use to see the lien company on the registration as well as my name but now even if I finance its only my name on the registration but the car fax and the car registry sees a lien on the car.
This video was a day away from being ALL-TIME classic, ending with Craig going out of state to "Jack" a car. I would have loved every second of that operation and the video footage. What a loss to not see that... I am just glad you finally got paid.
So is Westlake going to repo the car after the title is received or will they let her start making payments? If they let her start making payments then she basically got a car with 7 months of deferred payments.
I hope that you never ever deal with that bank again
No good deed goes unpunished.
I'm an old Private Detective. I used to repo cars at times. I loved the hunt.. Humans are so fun to hunt and track. I always got my my person or the car.
Yea I bet you got off on stealing someone’s only transportation. You all get off on it
When I bought new cars in Vegas to be registered in Oregon, the dealer would send the title work directly to the DMV office in my town. I would then go in there and complete the transaction. This way the customer never has possession of the title.
I understand the desire to sell vehicles to sub prime buyers as you can sell the vehicle for thousands more than good credit buyer but it works out in the end that you make no more than selling to reliable buyers for less
Wow! This is reminiscent of that guy (with a brother car dealer!) that screwed around with the down payment. The customer is a scammer and I hope you've found a better bank.
How did she get the title ? whenever i bought a car the dealer kept title and registered car and title was given to bank.. Once car was paid off i was sent clean title.
Great phone Lauren
Don't be a nice guy and lend to someone who can't afford the car. AND Lauren gets a BONUS for her hard work!!!!!
When I was still a kid, my parents bought a house and the seller held the mortgage. We paid the house off after several years. These calm, honest and no-nonsense days are GONE. If I sell my house or a car today, I would not hold the loan/mortgage. If the potential buyer cannot get a loan/mortgage from a bank, the deal is simply off. No sense of guessing if the buyer can come up with the next payment or if I'll need to repo the house/car.
So did you get the SUV back from the lady? Since she stop paying on the loan
This constant camera movement reminds of the 1999 film blair witch project. This video was just as crazy as that movie.
I have never had a car payment...! Actually, mortgage excluded, I have never financed anything...! All my purchases are made in full...! All of my lawn service equipment was paid in full...! We use a credit card now in order to get the cash back, but our credit account is always paid in full within three days, per our agreement... To pay any interest on anything is very foolish, again, mortgage/ property excluded...! Thanks for sharing... Keep up your awesomeness...!