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thanks for cooking this up! i think many people overlook the option of getting sunday on a rerun and sit back & observe in what direction we are going. 100% agree on that one! servants definetely will be relevant but its not like this will be the one and only viable team which cant work without sunday.
No matter what kit Tribbie has I’m skipping her, even if she is a better Sunday, I don’t pull for child characters they don’t appeal to me at all. Getting Sunday regardless. I have Boothill and he doesn’t need HMC, I have a very well built Ruan Mei and Sunday also works with him. I’m still undecided about Fugue, maybe will try if I don’t win 50/50 I skip.
@@Ma-wv9bnhmm I do plan to get his E1… and that’s another consideration E1 Boothill or Fugue? I’m only expecting to get her to E0S0… only because of Boothill, I don’t like her enough… honestly more excited about the upcoming characters 😅
and theres me i find child characters adorable and wholesome so l would pull even if they had a bad kit. there's 2 sides to one coin, I am not sure about fugue as well, I don't like the nerfs she got. i feel like I have to get her if I still want my break characters to be kinda meta in 3.X versions, I don't like that feeling. i love her elegant design that's the only thing that's making me want to pull
@ heh all good! There is no doubt she looked adorable. I guess for Fugue we will have to see when her banner is out. Borrow someone else’s Fugue to try with my team. Same! She is supposed to replace HMC so will have to test her in place of that to decide. Hoyo maximizing our spendings lol
Sunday is a safe pull cause Tribbie will be the support of the other 3.x team, RMC kit is all about buffing and action advancing the carry, in this case Aglaea. The "true damage" value (Buff that mimi gives to the carry) is based on the original damage dealt by the buffed target (in this case Aglaea) so buffing both RMC and Aglaea is worse than buffing Aglaea more cause said true damage cant be buffed at all so Sunday wont be replaced, he already has his team and Tribbie will be the harmony used for Castorice Mydei team, dont make the mistake of investing even more in break by pulling Fugue, its a 2.x archetype thats not gonna age well, just like hypercarries in 2.x.
@@layss7483 Theres barely any info on him outside of his test team being mydei castorice luocha and lingsha (its just the best units available at the time, very likely you replace luocha and lingsha with tribbie + 3.x sustain) and his test relics being CDmg/HP%/Imaginary DMG/HP%, at least with this you can assume he probably scales with HP, maybe hes what blade wanted to be lol
I say it’s fair, if you wanna play DoT you have to pull Kafka then a team buffer and the dps, if you wanna play break you have to pull Ruan Mei and Fugue and the dps. If you wanna play Rememberance you have to pull Sunday another buffer and the dps. The trailblazer is like a free trial during the year and then when the next one comes out the TB replacement will also come out
The problem with Fugue is that she's not a big upgrade over HMC, why would you waste 100 pulls average on a character that is not much of an upgrade when you can save up for other upcoming characters
Because u will want to play the New meta and probably MC will be an important piece. Also this New archetypes will be very boosted. The big Loser can be FF because she Needs Harmony MC and there's only one MC
How can you know if she’s not much of an upgrade? She isn’t officially released, and this community has a serious problem with analysing beta characters - all previous characters doomed to be “worthless upgrades”by the community turned out to be insane meta wise (i.e. black swan, lingsha, robin, huohuo, yunli…)
There's a reason they release Fugue than all of a sudden have the Trailblazer change paths. She essentially takes HMC place in Superbreak teams while RMC can be used in the summon meta along with Sunday and/or Aglaea.
@@Sakamoto_1535E3 RMC scales with crit damage, Mimi increases the crit dmg of all team members based on RMC crit damage, and the "true damage" buff that mimi gives to an ally scales only on the original damage done, it cant be buffed so aoe buffs dont work at all since buffing RMC serves no purpose for this true damage, you wanna buff the carry all the way aka just buff aglaea.
Fugue isn't a massive upgrade over hmc and super break is already good. I mean think about it they've been pushing follow up and break meta for the last few patches where dot and hypercarry were struggling. Same will happen with summon and maybe HP decay
I think you've made a good point here. I will choose Fugue since I already have Firefly Rappa Ruan Mei and Lingsha. I also want to work on my Fua team so I will focus on getting Robin next year too and I think I will work for a functioning Herta team as well
If youre a superbreak main and you will be playing remembrance next patch you need to pull for both sunday and fugue because remembrance trailblazer is a must as a support sub dps for remembrance teams. HMC will be gone and youll have to get Fugue
I test every possible combination of Sunday and Fugue for my account since I have leak server. Fugue have value for all the upcoming mode at least until end of January next year . Sunday? Have to wait for the servant beta so for now Fugue then wait for Sunday rerun . Not a fan of servant meta anyway (did the same for FuA and still survive) so I know what to pull.
Imagine skipping Sunday and then regretting 4 months in a row when they release characters that want Sunday in their team. I'd feel awful and I'd not want anyone to have that fate.
You just dont pull for other characters which is also a good thing you can save for another. You do know that a lot of people are still working on their Firefly or Feixiao team comps imagine pulling for a totaly new team comp I am a low spender and I just finished my Feixiao team with Aventurine. Sunday needs a totaly new team comp you nead at least 2-3 new characters
I was just about to say this. Remberance characters have servants so Sunday would be best in slot harmony character everytime a remberance char come out . I was gone skip him but when I found out what he do it's a no brainer to pull for him , seems pretty future proof to me.
@ planning and saving. Plan what you need or you need for end game and save up for it since the patch on average gives ~80 pulls. If youre lucky then good if not then tough luck. If version 3 updates reaches 3.7 then you can get guarante 3 3.x characters granting you lost 3 50-50 and that is still good if version 3 is summon meta
I've seen a video with calculations. And Fugue+HMC give more gamage than Fugue+RM. And, I'll repeat it once more: I trully belive that Fugue's buffing Lingsha - this combination is the bis one. So, probably, the very Fugue team is: Fugue + RM + HMC + Lingsha. That's it. Firefly and Rappa do not take all the potential of Fugue's baff. Lingsha - she should do it perfectly. Especially - with E1 Fugue... A really original oppinion about Sunday. He is a new meta character. If you're complitly sure that you don't want to play remembarance characters, than, of course, you shuldn't pull Sunday. I'm not sure that they are planning to do any other summon buffer in a near future. Coz they already selling us Sunday. Maybe - a break summons buffer. May be. In a nutshell: Sunday is a really important harmony nowadays. If you don't play end-game contentent and you don't want to pull remembarance characters, Sunday is not a good option for you. But otherwise - he's a must pull!
I would like to see this vid and look into the particulars. Keep in mind, many factors like builds and how the player plays can alter these conclusions. Add to this, RM isnt played on break teams just for more damage. Its for the increase SPD for the team, plus delay, plus res pen, break efficiency for the squad, etc. But yeah if you could link me that vid I would love to see it, because I saw so many people showing stats that says otherwise.
Sunday 10/10 times…. And this is coming form someone with a E2S1 FF and I still think Sundays the easiest pick. But if I wasn’t a low spender I would definitely pick up Tingyun tho.
Fugue is mainly for those who have rappa since she will benefit WAAAYY more with fugue than firefly. This is coming from someone who has E2S1 rappa, fugue will be her BiS without a doubt.
@@azureknight729 she’s definitely the least impactful for FF but that doesn’t change the fact you can run Sustainless now with her. Also o wouldn’t discount BH she buffs him a lot I’ve seen him hit for almost 1M in a single hit because of the SB damage + the double break and most importantly with her buff he can now Rainbow break ( even tho it’s only 50% at 2/3 stacks that’s still gonna one shot all non boss opponents in one hit )
Lol, imagine if tribbie is an entirely different thing and is for HP and meta and because enot everyone have blade, tribbie is also a "future if" character
@@Sakamoto_1535E3they’re not going to release a Robin for summon meta, or at least not with the AA. It would mean advancing the action of 6-8 units, it wouldn’t make sense at all, they’re not going to make the same mistake twice. Teamwide buff is always very important of course, but one of the stronger parts of Robin’s kit will not be replicated. That would even powercreep her lmao, it’s not happening.
As someone with a fully invested E2S2 FF running with E1S1 Ruan Mei, I'm aiming to finalising that team since honestly, building a whole new archetype would be way too expensive. I'll just get Fugue as an HMC replacement in case the day comes when I want to pull for Remembrance units, but I'll wait it out and wait for the Remembrance powerhouse DPS that will cover me throughout 3.X. If Sunday gets crept, I'll just get the better harmony character, but if he's still BiS, I can get him on his rerun. Just wanted to have a more solid team right now with better coverage for end game. From my perspective, there's a chance that Sunday could receive a better version honestly, he's single target and we've seen this before with Sparkle, but If I'm wrong and he remains BiS for summons, then he's likely to have an early rerun anyways like Robin since Hoyo loves doing package banners like that to squeeze more money on players, so I'll just grab him with the Acheron-level summon DPS that will likely come out.
honestly i'll probably pull him on his release and build him until i see what the 3.X characters do imo maybe ill get tingyun if i have enough jades left
I was on the fence but I'm heavily leaning towards Sunday and just leaving it to luck if I can pull Fugue with any leftover pulls. The track record so far is that the old meta gets pushed down very hard and very fast when the new characters drop. We can always swap RMC back to HMC as needed because I'll bet new enemies will have mechanics that badly counter break so they can sell the new units.
The question will be if Fugue is enough of an upgrade for 70-140. She could possibly help future proof Firefly teams but unfortunately can’t hold DDD 👀
the thing is ddd isnt really that needed outside of 0-cycle teams, sure its great but not that important outside of 0-cycle teams because even without it you can easily clear in however many cycles
@@KirigayaHayato people said the same thing about jq/pela and Gallagher/lingsha and you could say the same about Sunday/sparkle. People should just get who they like who cares
@@KirigayaHayato I think it comes down to Opportunity Cost. People who don't play the superbreak archetype don't need to care at all. They can get RMC, play the Remembrance archetype and go on with their day. But those who plan on playing superbreak as well as the Remembrance archetype have to consider getting Fugue to make things work. At this point it doesn't matter how much better Fugue is. She is simply necessary. Though, it's a different story for those who don't plan on playing the remembrance archetype. Then it might be valid to question the value of Fugue.
the thing is you only have one mc, so pulling will be much complicated, but I'm gonna pull for fugue in a hope that rmc is enough to carry remembrance asses.
If you only have Firefly as your Break DPS, consider skipping because she has roughly the same performance as HMC. But if you have Boothill and/or Rappa, and you want to try out Super Break Himeko (for PF), then consider pulling because these three need Fugue for optimal performance. However, if you want to experience the upcoming summon meta, then pull Sunday 100%. There won't be another character that can advance summon's actions anytime soon.
@@dante19890 And that's why I said Sunday is a must-pull. If you want to join (and have the best experience) in the upcoming summon meta, he immediately becomes a top priority over Fugue. In the long run, a unit that complements a future and/or underdeveloped niche is better than a unit that complements an existing and well-developed niche. Edit: some minor typos I overlooked
I find comparing fugue and htb awful only because endless you are going to build the remembrance trailblazer (which currently would say hold off before deciding that because there isn’t much info) you would run the higher super break enabler which is htb (don’t mention any testing till release because fugue’s light cone is currently included in those testings)
Their kit are ultimately very different, with HTB providing more buffing, more single target toughness damage and super break damage and AA with DDD vs Fugue providing Smaller super breaks and damage amps, but partly color-less breaking, exo-toughness and better AoE breaking. It's the reason why Firefly would still rather use HMC (all of Fugue's utility is kind of lost on her because she can cover these things really well already) whereas Rappa/Boothill already prefer Fugue in most situations (easier mechanic stacks with Exo toughness, colorless breaking is way more useful for chars with situational/no implants) ...That and they're trying *really* hard to sell her E1 lol
@ ya this is why I say she is more of a ruan Mei replacement in firefly teams given 50% toughness break is nice but ultimately having an additional 100% super break is better plus the only thing that isn’t really included in the kit is the 10% speed boost which can help meet break points but I also got a set that doesn’t need the 10% speed on firefly. Or you can go sustainless with firefly if you want. Fugue vs htb is like comparing boothill to rappa. Both happens to have one thing they can do similarly but they both fill different roles and can work amazingly together
no mather how i like sunday im kinda afraid because remembrance characters seens to funtion more on duble atacker system idk maybe i didn't full comprehend ther kit
Not sure if I understood your comment, but sunday's kit works on remembrance unit's servants too. In fact he is the only character currently who can buff servants
@@Why-ci5mk it's because he buffs 1character but remembrance characters seens to work with each other ? i think if im not wrong so they likely want to have a team wide buff ? as i said idk if i have a full comprehention of their kit and having a sparkle and robin case is a little bit concerning
@@MorinoTenguif you take a look at RMC’s kit, or what we know so far, they seem to be enabling true damage mainly depending on the damage the main dps does, so essentially if you only buff the dps you’ll have the better outcome, you can’t really buff true damage, you can’t really buff the rmc, you’ll have to rely on buffing the hypercarry. Of course I don’t think it’ll be like that in all the cases, but from what we’ve seen so far that’s how they’re planning these first realeases for the remembrance path.
@@gi-ll4971 if that rmc main atack source that make more sence I was thinking rmc like a sub dps and that was cofusing me but instead it act like a hamony character
man when can i pull a male character in these gatcha games Lighter dont work with my roster, zzz is ultra powercreep have to skip Neuviellette had to skip twice for Furina and now seems i have to skip again for Mavuika in genshin Sunday!! i have been waiting for him since first panaconi livestream yet again he might get powercrept by 3.1 and beyound characters!! i will let fate decide as im at pity anyway, also in all 3 games the value of a unit on a re run is very low with very few exceptions so on Sunday/Lighter re runs most likely the little value they had will be gone by then
@@Dontkillyourself-c7p its more of sparkle bronya sparkle situation, i got sparkle for DHIL but outside of that team, the other teams monoquantum QQ and hypercarry JY she was not good anywhere, bronya i got after sparkle and she was never used because her upgrade sparkle was not used often either way, i got robin on a re run (tbh i dont think she is crazy, still prefer Ruan mei but at least i have 2 harmony team wide buffers) still im close to pity so i will try to get Sunday especially if he turned to be good with remembrance MC
My eastern European brother, you of all people should know how to pronounce these names properly. I get it "Gayreek" and all that Reddit brainrot was fun, but c'mon.
Shake my head, most people commenting here haven't learned from the Sparkle/Robin situation and are gonna get baited again despite watching this video. That's why the baits always work, because most of them are oblivious to it when they actually care about meta.
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thanks for cooking this up! i think many people overlook the option of getting sunday on a rerun and sit back & observe in what direction we are going. 100% agree on that one! servants definetely will be relevant but its not like this will be the one and only viable team which cant work without sunday.
No matter what kit Tribbie has I’m skipping her, even if she is a better Sunday, I don’t pull for child characters they don’t appeal to me at all.
Getting Sunday regardless. I have Boothill and he doesn’t need HMC, I have a very well built Ruan Mei and Sunday also works with him.
I’m still undecided about Fugue, maybe will try if I don’t win 50/50 I skip.
If you love boothill and don’t have his e1… fugue solves this problem
@@Ma-wv9bnhmm I do plan to get his E1… and that’s another consideration E1 Boothill or Fugue? I’m only expecting to get her to E0S0… only because of Boothill, I don’t like her enough… honestly more excited about the upcoming characters 😅
and theres me i find child characters adorable and wholesome so l would pull even if they had a bad kit. there's 2 sides to one coin, I am not sure about fugue as well, I don't like the nerfs she got. i feel like I have to get her if I still want my break characters to be kinda meta in 3.X versions, I don't like that feeling. i love her elegant design that's the only thing that's making me want to pull
@ heh all good! There is no doubt she looked adorable.
I guess for Fugue we will have to see when her banner is out. Borrow someone else’s Fugue to try with my team.
Same! She is supposed to replace HMC so will have to test her in place of that to decide. Hoyo maximizing our spendings lol
Sunday is a safe pull cause Tribbie will be the support of the other 3.x team, RMC kit is all about buffing and action advancing the carry, in this case Aglaea. The "true damage" value (Buff that mimi gives to the carry) is based on the original damage dealt by the buffed target (in this case Aglaea) so buffing both RMC and Aglaea is worse than buffing Aglaea more cause said true damage cant be buffed at all so Sunday wont be replaced, he already has his team and Tribbie will be the harmony used for Castorice Mydei team, dont make the mistake of investing even more in break by pulling Fugue, its a 2.x archetype thats not gonna age well, just like hypercarries in 2.x.
Hello theree, seems like u know lots abou leaks, can share infos of Mydei? I am rly interested in him
@@layss7483 Theres barely any info on him outside of his test team being mydei castorice luocha and lingsha (its just the best units available at the time, very likely you replace luocha and lingsha with tribbie + 3.x sustain) and his test relics being CDmg/HP%/Imaginary DMG/HP%, at least with this you can assume he probably scales with HP, maybe hes what blade wanted to be lol
@@cristianfg20 ohh?? Hp scaling interestingg
I say it’s fair, if you wanna play DoT you have to pull Kafka then a team buffer and the dps, if you wanna play break you have to pull Ruan Mei and Fugue and the dps. If you wanna play Rememberance you have to pull Sunday another buffer and the dps. The trailblazer is like a free trial during the year and then when the next one comes out the TB replacement will also come out
The problem with Fugue is that she's not a big upgrade over HMC, why would you waste 100 pulls average on a character that is not much of an upgrade when you can save up for other upcoming characters
Because u will want to play the New meta and probably MC will be an important piece. Also this New archetypes will be very boosted.
The big Loser can be FF because she Needs Harmony MC and there's only one MC
How can you know if she’s not much of an upgrade? She isn’t officially released, and this community has a serious problem with analysing beta characters - all previous characters doomed to be “worthless upgrades”by the community turned out to be insane meta wise (i.e. black swan, lingsha, robin, huohuo, yunli…)
They want our money no way they won't make remerance MC very strong
@@tieAcherry101 It's a gacha, of course they want money and of course there's powercreep
There's a reason they release Fugue than all of a sudden have the Trailblazer change paths. She essentially takes HMC place in Superbreak teams while RMC can be used in the summon meta along with Sunday and/or Aglaea.
YEP or you stack em both if new mc bad "i doubt".
RMC scales through max hp tho
@@Sakamoto_1535E3 RMC scales with crit damage, Mimi increases the crit dmg of all team members based on RMC crit damage, and the "true damage" buff that mimi gives to an ally scales only on the original damage done, it cant be buffed so aoe buffs dont work at all since buffing RMC serves no purpose for this true damage, you wanna buff the carry all the way aka just buff aglaea.
Going for Sunday
Fugue isn't a massive upgrade over hmc and super break is already good. I mean think about it they've been pushing follow up and break meta for the last few patches where dot and hypercarry were struggling. Same will happen with summon and maybe HP decay
I think you've made a good point here. I will choose Fugue since I already have Firefly Rappa Ruan Mei and Lingsha. I also want to work on my Fua team so I will focus on getting Robin next year too and I think I will work for a functioning Herta team as well
If youre a superbreak main and you will be playing remembrance next patch you need to pull for both sunday and fugue because remembrance trailblazer is a must as a support sub dps for remembrance teams. HMC will be gone and youll have to get Fugue
I pull Sunday cos Hypercarry DPS still need 2 support in their team anyway
I test every possible combination of Sunday and Fugue for my account since I have leak server. Fugue have value for all the upcoming mode at least until end of January next year . Sunday? Have to wait for the servant beta so for now Fugue then wait for Sunday rerun . Not a fan of servant meta anyway (did the same for FuA and still survive) so I know what to pull.
Imagine skipping Sunday and then regretting 4 months in a row when they release characters that want Sunday in their team. I'd feel awful and I'd not want anyone to have that fate.
No Male characters allowed
Waifu only are a must
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You just dont pull for other characters which is also a good thing you can save for another.
You do know that a lot of people are still working on their Firefly or Feixiao team comps imagine pulling for a totaly new team comp
I am a low spender and I just finished my Feixiao team with Aventurine.
Sunday needs a totaly new team comp you nead at least 2-3 new characters
Nope not pulling for units I don't want for meta. Skipped robin and my acc is perfectly fine
I was just about to say this. Remberance characters have servants so Sunday would be best in slot harmony character everytime a remberance char come out . I was gone skip him but when I found out what he do it's a no brainer to pull for him , seems pretty future proof to me.
Future meta >>> current/old meta
Future meta will always be better than current/old meta esp when its future meta support.
Ye but most people can't afford 2 new 3.x teams.
They have to go for one and use their 2.X team like superbreak for the other team.
@ planning and saving. Plan what you need or you need for end game and save up for it since the patch on average gives ~80 pulls. If youre lucky then good if not then tough luck.
If version 3 updates reaches 3.7 then you can get guarante 3 3.x characters granting you lost 3 50-50 and that is still good if version 3 is summon meta
I've seen a video with calculations. And Fugue+HMC give more gamage than Fugue+RM.
And, I'll repeat it once more: I trully belive that Fugue's buffing Lingsha - this combination is the bis one. So, probably, the very Fugue team is: Fugue + RM + HMC + Lingsha. That's it. Firefly and Rappa do not take all the potential of Fugue's baff. Lingsha - she should do it perfectly. Especially - with E1 Fugue...
A really original oppinion about Sunday. He is a new meta character. If you're complitly sure that you don't want to play remembarance characters, than, of course, you shuldn't pull Sunday. I'm not sure that they are planning to do any other summon buffer in a near future. Coz they already selling us Sunday. Maybe - a break summons buffer. May be. In a nutshell: Sunday is a really important harmony nowadays. If you don't play end-game contentent and you don't want to pull remembarance characters, Sunday is not a good option for you. But otherwise - he's a must pull!
I would like to see this vid and look into the particulars. Keep in mind, many factors like builds and how the player plays can alter these conclusions. Add to this, RM isnt played on break teams just for more damage. Its for the increase SPD for the team, plus delay, plus res pen, break efficiency for the squad, etc. But yeah if you could link me that vid I would love to see it, because I saw so many people showing stats that says otherwise.
Sunday 10/10 times….
And this is coming form someone with a E2S1 FF and I still think Sundays the easiest pick.
But if I wasn’t a low spender I would definitely pick up Tingyun tho.
Sunday ⛔️
Fugue is mainly for those who have rappa since she will benefit WAAAYY more with fugue than firefly. This is coming from someone who has E2S1 rappa, fugue will be her BiS without a doubt.
@@azureknight729 she’s definitely the least impactful for FF but that doesn’t change the fact you can run Sustainless now with her.
Also o wouldn’t discount BH she buffs him a lot I’ve seen him hit for almost 1M in a single hit because of the SB damage + the double break and most importantly with her buff he can now Rainbow break ( even tho it’s only 50% at 2/3 stacks that’s still gonna one shot all non boss opponents in one hit )
Lol, imagine if tribbie is an entirely different thing and is for HP and meta and because enot everyone have blade, tribbie is also a "future if" character
Sunday = Sparkle, and
Tribbie = Robin in summon meta. You pick.
@@Sakamoto_1535E3they’re not going to release a Robin for summon meta, or at least not with the AA. It would mean advancing the action of 6-8 units, it wouldn’t make sense at all, they’re not going to make the same mistake twice. Teamwide buff is always very important of course, but one of the stronger parts of Robin’s kit will not be replicated. That would even powercreep her lmao, it’s not happening.
@@gi-ll4971 what about just advancing the summons? Would that make sense now?
As someone with a fully invested E2S2 FF running with E1S1 Ruan Mei, I'm aiming to finalising that team since honestly, building a whole new archetype would be way too expensive. I'll just get Fugue as an HMC replacement in case the day comes when I want to pull for Remembrance units, but I'll wait it out and wait for the Remembrance powerhouse DPS that will cover me throughout 3.X. If Sunday gets crept, I'll just get the better harmony character, but if he's still BiS, I can get him on his rerun. Just wanted to have a more solid team right now with better coverage for end game. From my perspective, there's a chance that Sunday could receive a better version honestly, he's single target and we've seen this before with Sparkle, but If I'm wrong and he remains BiS for summons, then he's likely to have an early rerun anyways like Robin since Hoyo loves doing package banners like that to squeeze more money on players, so I'll just grab him with the Acheron-level summon DPS that will likely come out.
honestly i'll probably pull him on his release and build him until i see what the 3.X characters do
imo maybe ill get tingyun if i have enough jades left
I was on the fence but I'm heavily leaning towards Sunday and just leaving it to luck if I can pull Fugue with any leftover pulls. The track record so far is that the old meta gets pushed down very hard and very fast when the new characters drop. We can always swap RMC back to HMC as needed because I'll bet new enemies will have mechanics that badly counter break so they can sell the new units.
Thanks for the video !👍
I like my break team so i go on Fugue and E1 FF (maybe E2 if big luck), and i wait 3.1/3.2 for the team of Castorice ❤
The question will be if Fugue is enough of an upgrade for 70-140. She could possibly help future proof Firefly teams but unfortunately can’t hold DDD 👀
Just get E2, problem solved! /s
the thing is ddd isnt really that needed outside of 0-cycle teams, sure its great but not that important outside of 0-cycle teams because even without it you can easily clear in however many cycles
@@gandalfstyle2977that is not the point here tho. The question was if it is enough of an upgrade to justify the pulls which she isn't
@@KirigayaHayato people said the same thing about jq/pela and Gallagher/lingsha and you could say the same about Sunday/sparkle. People should just get who they like who cares
@@KirigayaHayato I think it comes down to Opportunity Cost. People who don't play the superbreak archetype don't need to care at all. They can get RMC, play the Remembrance archetype and go on with their day. But those who plan on playing superbreak as well as the Remembrance archetype have to consider getting Fugue to make things work. At this point it doesn't matter how much better Fugue is. She is simply necessary.
Though, it's a different story for those who don't plan on playing the remembrance archetype. Then it might be valid to question the value of Fugue.
Very good point about Fugue I didn't consider. I will have to consider her more
since sunday is essentially tingyun + bronya the bornya light cone is gonna be pretty good so don't really have to go for his light cone
the thing is you only have one mc, so pulling will be much complicated, but I'm gonna pull for fugue in a hope that rmc is enough to carry remembrance asses.
If you only have Firefly as your Break DPS, consider skipping because she has roughly the same performance as HMC. But if you have Boothill and/or Rappa, and you want to try out Super Break Himeko (for PF), then consider pulling because these three need Fugue for optimal performance.
However, if you want to experience the upcoming summon meta, then pull Sunday 100%. There won't be another character that can advance summon's actions anytime soon.
Fugue does benefit Firefly a lot especialy of your Firefly is E2 ,but you are right why pull for Fugue, when harmony TB is still good.
But you have to abandon ur break team as u play servant team with RMC
@@dante19890 And that's why I said Sunday is a must-pull. If you want to join (and have the best experience) in the upcoming summon meta, he immediately becomes a top priority over Fugue. In the long run, a unit that complements a future and/or underdeveloped niche is better than a unit that complements an existing and well-developed niche.
Edit: some minor typos I overlooked
@@p01nt_blank67 but the Sunday team isnt gonna be the only meta team. There will atleast be an additional 2 or more meta teams in 3.X
@@dante19890 And it's not just gonna be the Break teams either.
not sure i agree, don't forget hmc can use s5 ddd, it would be fortunate if they are atleast equal, even that is a sad outcome though...
I find comparing fugue and htb awful only because endless you are going to build the remembrance trailblazer (which currently would say hold off before deciding that because there isn’t much info) you would run the higher super break enabler which is htb (don’t mention any testing till release because fugue’s light cone is currently included in those testings)
Their kit are ultimately very different, with HTB providing more buffing, more single target toughness damage and super break damage and AA with DDD vs Fugue providing Smaller super breaks and damage amps, but partly color-less breaking, exo-toughness and better AoE breaking. It's the reason why Firefly would still rather use HMC (all of Fugue's utility is kind of lost on her because she can cover these things really well already) whereas Rappa/Boothill already prefer Fugue in most situations (easier mechanic stacks with Exo toughness, colorless breaking is way more useful for chars with situational/no implants)
...That and they're trying *really* hard to sell her E1 lol
@ ya this is why I say she is more of a ruan Mei replacement in firefly teams given 50% toughness break is nice but ultimately having an additional 100% super break is better plus the only thing that isn’t really included in the kit is the 10% speed boost which can help meet break points but I also got a set that doesn’t need the 10% speed on firefly. Or you can go sustainless with firefly if you want. Fugue vs htb is like comparing boothill to rappa. Both happens to have one thing they can do similarly but they both fill different roles and can work amazingly together
The thing is the MC will continue to get new paths
Im gonna wait till they drop the 3.0 livestream for RMC showcase then i have a week to decide if i want to pull fugue or not.
no mather how i like sunday im kinda afraid because remembrance characters seens to funtion more on duble atacker system
idk maybe i didn't full comprehend ther kit
Not sure if I understood your comment, but sunday's kit works on remembrance unit's servants too. In fact he is the only character currently who can buff servants
@@Why-ci5mk it's because he buffs 1character but remembrance characters seens to work with each other ? i think if im not wrong so they likely want to have a team wide buff ?
as i said idk if i have a full comprehention of their kit and having a sparkle and robin case is a little bit concerning
@@MorinoTenguif you take a look at RMC’s kit, or what we know so far, they seem to be enabling true damage mainly depending on the damage the main dps does, so essentially if you only buff the dps you’ll have the better outcome, you can’t really buff true damage, you can’t really buff the rmc, you’ll have to rely on buffing the hypercarry. Of course I don’t think it’ll be like that in all the cases, but from what we’ve seen so far that’s how they’re planning these first realeases for the remembrance path.
@@gi-ll4971 if that rmc main atack source that make more sence
I was thinking rmc like a sub dps and that was cofusing me but instead it act like a hamony character
Fugue ultimate should have an additional debuff effect
I dont recommend skipping sunday truely
Skip fugue bcz u have hmc guyz
Atleast u got some teamate
Are all Imaginary just really male characters
Thank you so much for the Fugue propaganda
Is Aphrodite in this game
man when can i pull a male character in these gatcha games
Lighter dont work with my roster, zzz is ultra powercreep have to skip
Neuviellette had to skip twice for Furina and now seems i have to skip again for Mavuika in genshin
Sunday!! i have been waiting for him since first panaconi livestream yet again he might get powercrept by 3.1 and beyound characters!!
i will let fate decide as im at pity anyway, also in all 3 games the value of a unit on a re run is very low with very few exceptions so on Sunday/Lighter re runs most likely the little value they had will be gone by then
Well Sunday is literally made for remembrance teams and will probably be best in slot for them until remembrance isn't meta anymore
@@Dontkillyourself-c7p its more of sparkle bronya sparkle situation, i got sparkle for DHIL but outside of that team, the other teams monoquantum QQ and hypercarry JY she was not good anywhere, bronya i got after sparkle and she was never used because her upgrade sparkle was not used often either way, i got robin on a re run (tbh i dont think she is crazy, still prefer Ruan mei but at least i have 2 harmony team wide buffers)
still im close to pity so i will try to get Sunday especially if he turned to be good with remembrance MC
I will follow my D and get fugue
My eastern European brother, you of all people should know how to pronounce these names properly. I get it "Gayreek" and all that Reddit brainrot was fun, but c'mon.
Genshin is an anomaly like Zzz reactions lol.
😂
Shake my head, most people commenting here haven't learned from the Sparkle/Robin situation and are gonna get baited again despite watching this video. That's why the baits always work, because most of them are oblivious to it when they actually care about meta.
fugue 🕯
Imagine skipping Fugue 🫡
Skipping Sunday for Fugue
IMAGINE SKIPPING FUGUE WHEN THE NEXT BREAK CHARCTER BREAKS 10 x IN ONE
Huh?
Please explain
@@yamirellik5720 it’s just me being delusional dw
Easiest skip trash Midday oml😂😂