I wonder if E2 will activate the effect of watch maker since it can advance forward party members, but ofc they could nerf it so fugue can't activate it too
@@yahoo7777777 I doubt it will because the ult still targets enemies not allies. Yu Kong's ult that buffs the team also doesn't trigger the 4pc for the same reason.
@@caseylim128yeah also because it's says "target's"enemies meaning even if she buffs them they can't gain the relic effects. Also I think of a Ult targeting an friendly unit while damaging an enemies. Because it target an teammate they get the effects of the relic
E1 Fugue is great for boothill, no one else in boothill teams is really doing weakness damage so consolidating half of ruan mei's functionality onto one slot with all the other buffs Fugue supplies is very valuable
btw, now that I know "Fugue" can benefit from Effect Hit Rate, now I have a use for those Effect Hit Rate substats on those Relics I've farmed that rolled effect hit rate and therefore was bad for the characters I use. Since she benefits from Effect Hit Rate and Break Effect, those "reject" rolls of Relics I got when farming for characters like Firefly, will finally have a use for me.
I have no Firefly, no Boothil, no Rappa, no Ruan Mei and usually play DoT teams or Acheron/Feixiao hypercarry teams. Gonna get her and lightcone just because I like her. =)
@leonichida3034 I'll probably do something like this or try to get firefly if she comes home early, lucky me she's coming on the second part of the update. Otherwise I'll build xueyi and see what happens lol
@@leonichida3034 She can make another character (most likely the support) to provide a debuff with their attack. It seems to be really sinergetic with Aventurine, since based on beta leaks, her skill makes him provides a stack for Acheron on both his attack and his follow up without any specialized light cone or eidolons. On the downside, she needs a lightcone to provide stacks herself, but her signature or pearls should do the job done.
@@leonichida3034 If she could plant a debuff directly, when she hits an enemy unit, then yes. But since she can't, she won't generate any stacks for Acheron. imo, her kit is mediocre at best, if not down right bad. The only thing good about her is her major trace of exo toughness. she provides way less utility than HMC. So for me she's a skip even though I have pre farmed literally everything for her.
@@ShoXpress I'm thinkiner her E1 is more valuable myself BECAUSE it's a replacement of Ruan Mei's skill kinda.. I often find myself wanting to use Ruan mei in MoC/AS/PF team 2, but I'm like 'man... Firefly without ruan mei sucks, I can't'. I mean yeah Ruan mei would still be ideal for firefly but now you could have flexibility. I agree with neither though, just because heavily investing in a super break character when 3.0 is coming and the new memta is probably going to change is probably n ot a wise idea.
No err rope will make her ult hard to trigger as often and i would suggest err rope over break rope bc when in battle u can exceed 250 break quite easily
I wonder if its even worth it though. Her ult isnt anything spectacular. If her main benefit is through her talent and skill, I can see why focusing on the break effect makes more sense. It is just tough to justify building into an ULT that doesn't really do a lot. Maybe you are right though, but idk. That ult is more of icing on the cake if anything, and Id rather focus hard on getting speed and break effect as high as possible. But I may be under-estimating that ult
Not worth it unless you get her E2 since her ult is literally just a single AoE attack that does nothing special except for the colorless breaking. The utter lack of utility on top of the 130 burst cost is Fugue’s only weakness.
@pokeygem6783 yeah and I assume most will want to have an easier time getting those break and effect hit hate barriers. That ult is fine but I don't think justifies a rope over. Once someone hits the break effect barrier, they can focus on EHR or more speed etc. I assume this is also why it's recommended to level up her ult much later since her main aspects are her talent and skill. But just my perspective. Could be wrong.
Informative video, but I’m still none the wiser as to whether I want to pull Fugue for my Firefly/Boothill teams or Sunday for, well I guess for Jing Yuan, but mainly to set up for the probably next big phase of powercreep with 3.0 Remembrance characters.
Buddy the best and easy to use will be tutorial mission start... But that's also you have to buy from the shop... So untill then sure fermata would be OK
@@ShoXpress I just spent all my Herta Credits buying the Event Cones I missed out on because I wasn't yet playing during them. And I often use Pela, who uses Tutorial. It's going to be a while until I have Solitary Healing. Here's hoping a better choice comes out soon xD
@@ShoXpress That would be a great point but Firefly with her obscene speed kinda does more than everyone else combined by a longshot, especially if you have e2, which I don't have, but sure would like it.
I don't man... considering HMC 100% super break and the extra damage boost... You have to know that the damage boost varies based on the no of enemies you are facing... The more enemies there are the less the damage boost becomes... And also you shouldn't underestimate Exp toughness or the cloudflame luster in fugue case...
Hmc give a lot of break effect too and can equip watchmaker and most of the fugue buff are for only one character(without e6) which is kinda sad in break team. HMC has minimum 120% SB and maximum 160% when she only give 100% and her ult is kinda useless before e2... After all that I'm not saying she's bad either it's just that for FF the exo toughness it's not that good because she dosn't have any mechanic who work on that (unlike himeko, rappa and boothill) and it can troll you if another character break it before her (after that you are in the same situation than with HMC but with way less buffs).
I say pull for Sunday and save for aglaea. She will be rlly fun to play. If u don’t have firefly don’t pull fugue vise versa. But then again if you really want a character then go ahead and pull 🥰
@@ShoXpress it's a shame that it locked behind eidolon, otherwise I'll pull for her instead of Sunday, I can only afford 1 copy without lightcone, since that break efficiency will further boost boothill resulting in faster clear
My recommendations are based on easy builds... If you can get both the effect hit rate and the break effect... Then sure... Also Luka LC is great only when it's atleast S3
It still depends... Because acheron wants two things, nihility and debuffs... Fugue is nihility but she only has one debuffs... Unless you get her signature LC
@@ShoXpress Thanks! Cuz at the moment, it seems that the only team resisting the power creep is FUA. I've got the Aven and the Robin, and an E6 Moze. Just waiting for the FX rerun... (btw, regarding The Herta, how do you think she'll fair against that memory zone meme boss? Or Aventurine/Kafka boss?)
@@ShoXpress forgive me for being pushy cause I wanna know if I should save up or just get my acheron to E2 now cause she'll be gone for another year. and you seem to know a lot about fugue and I wanna know. can she charge acheron even on basic attack or not? I have firefly but acheron is my main and I'm f2p
I have a question if firefly has 160 speed and fugue also has 160 speed. Who starts first and who starts second? I'm asking because I don't feel like farming artifacts for 1 speed difference anymore.
If she doesn't have an action advance in her kit to attack before FF, I'd use Vonwocq on her like most people did on HMC. Holding your FF's Ult is a DPS loss.
Her technique can advance however in overworld without technique spd goes to decimals so fugue may be ahead by a decimal or two, make sure you account for fugues base speed and trace speed and if fugue is also running cavalry its not a bad idea to swap pieces around
Erm I'm pretty sure 4pc watchmaker set buff will not work at all given that the wearer's ultimate has to target an ally and not the enemies.
I was thinking the same thing, but i was unsure
I wonder if E2 will activate the effect of watch maker since it can advance forward party members, but ofc they could nerf it so fugue can't activate it too
@@yahoo7777777her ult still would not target allies, for Watchmaker to work you need to target allies
@@yahoo7777777 I doubt it will because the ult still targets enemies not allies. Yu Kong's ult that buffs the team also doesn't trigger the 4pc for the same reason.
@@caseylim128yeah also because it's says "target's"enemies
meaning even if she buffs them they can't gain the relic effects.
Also I think of a Ult targeting an friendly unit while damaging an enemies. Because it target an teammate they get the effects of the relic
E1 Fugue is great for boothill, no one else in boothill teams is really doing weakness damage so consolidating half of ruan mei's functionality onto one slot with all the other buffs Fugue supplies is very valuable
True
btw, now that I know "Fugue" can benefit from Effect Hit Rate, now I have a use for those Effect Hit Rate substats on those Relics I've farmed that rolled effect hit rate and therefore was bad for the characters I use. Since she benefits from Effect Hit Rate and Break Effect, those "reject" rolls of Relics I got when farming for characters like Firefly, will finally have a use for me.
AMEN
Thank you so much!! I searched so long for some guides for Fugue!
Glad I could help!
I have no Firefly, no Boothil, no Rappa, no Ruan Mei and usually play DoT teams or Acheron/Feixiao hypercarry teams. Gonna get her and lightcone just because I like her. =)
she is nihility, cant you run her with acheron?
@leonichida3034 I'll probably do something like this or try to get firefly if she comes home early, lucky me she's coming on the second part of the update. Otherwise I'll build xueyi and see what happens lol
@@leonichida3034 She can make another character (most likely the support) to provide a debuff with their attack. It seems to be really sinergetic with Aventurine, since based on beta leaks, her skill makes him provides a stack for Acheron on both his attack and his follow up without any specialized light cone or eidolons. On the downside, she needs a lightcone to provide stacks herself, but her signature or pearls should do the job done.
She can work with Acheron or Xueyi.
And technically, she can make anyone a break DPS thanks to her talent.
@@leonichida3034 If she could plant a debuff directly, when she hits an enemy unit, then yes. But since she can't, she won't generate any stacks for Acheron. imo, her kit is mediocre at best, if not down right bad. The only thing good about her is her major trace of exo toughness. she provides way less utility than HMC. So for me she's a skip even though I have pre farmed literally everything for her.
I'm actually quite surprised because this is the first time I see someone recomending S1 over E1 :O
Personally I recommend neither... I think LC on supports aren't worth it... And her E1 is just a low tier version of Ruan mei's skill
@@ShoXpress I'm thinkiner her E1 is more valuable myself BECAUSE it's a replacement of Ruan Mei's skill kinda.. I often find myself wanting to use Ruan mei in MoC/AS/PF team 2, but I'm like 'man... Firefly without ruan mei sucks, I can't'. I mean yeah Ruan mei would still be ideal for firefly but now you could have flexibility.
I agree with neither though, just because heavily investing in a super break character when 3.0 is coming and the new memta is probably going to change is probably n ot a wise idea.
I just hope I get moderate luck pulling for her, I got 20 pulls saved for her and will keep saving until she comes out
The E1 in my theory is pretty much broken. Ally with foxian prayer can brute force the toughness bar with 100% efficiency 💀
No err rope will make her ult hard to trigger as often and i would suggest err rope over break rope bc when in battle u can exceed 250 break quite easily
I wonder if its even worth it though. Her ult isnt anything spectacular. If her main benefit is through her talent and skill, I can see why focusing on the break effect makes more sense. It is just tough to justify building into an ULT that doesn't really do a lot. Maybe you are right though, but idk. That ult is more of icing on the cake if anything, and Id rather focus hard on getting speed and break effect as high as possible. But I may be under-estimating that ult
Not worth it unless you get her E2 since her ult is literally just a single AoE attack that does nothing special except for the colorless breaking. The utter lack of utility on top of the 130 burst cost is Fugue’s only weakness.
@@kondoriano4813 fair enough
@@GodofGoblins I think 180 break is easy to get but her overall break requirements are an bit tricky
@pokeygem6783 yeah and I assume most will want to have an easier time getting those break and effect hit hate barriers. That ult is fine but I don't think justifies a rope over. Once someone hits the break effect barrier, they can focus on EHR or more speed etc. I assume this is also why it's recommended to level up her ult much later since her main aspects are her talent and skill. But just my perspective. Could be wrong.
Nice guide dude! Finally someone thinks like me, fugue is sub DPS.
In my opinion every unit in a break team is a sub dps
Question does Lootbar also give the bonus amount of primos stellar jades and polychromes in-game or just the amount you pay for ?
Informative video, but I’m still none the wiser as to whether I want to pull Fugue for my Firefly/Boothill teams or Sunday for, well I guess for Jing Yuan, but mainly to set up for the probably next big phase of powercreep with 3.0 Remembrance characters.
Well that's true as well
I’m getting her eclipse I need a replacement for harmony mc, since most likely the new remembrance path will be very useful in the 3.x meta.
"we have 3 options: Firefly, Rappa, Boothill"
*Xueyi mains crying*
nvm
Yoo I mentioned her as well...
so am I getting it wrong, or Fugue's best synergies are Rappa and Boothill whereas with Firefly it's kinda meh?
Welll firefly is just sooooo OP and so easy to play... That you can't really go UP from there... That much...
Yeah hmc is better for ff 'cause hmc has a higher sb scale while fugue is better for rappa cause stacking will be much easier to deal much more damage
@@ShoXpress you could with a support with more superbreak
I've had rappa e0s1, is it better to pull fugue e1 or s1?
Fugue she doesn’t hit hard enough to be considered a sub-dps considering you don’t build any damage on her except break.
Well she is ment to be played in break teams
@ true
she would be great for my boothill team
Hell yeah
I dont have ruan mei yet who can i use in her place ? Im going to pull for firefly and fugue and use with my e4 gallagher
For now you can use any type of damage boost or damage taken type supports like pela...
Would Fermata be a good choice for someone who doesn't have Solitary Healing? Just until they do have it
Buddy the best and easy to use will be tutorial mission start... But that's also you have to buy from the shop... So untill then sure fermata would be OK
@@ShoXpress I just spent all my Herta Credits buying the Event Cones I missed out on because I wasn't yet playing during them. And I often use Pela, who uses Tutorial. It's going to be a while until I have Solitary Healing. Here's hoping a better choice comes out soon xD
Will fugue be good with archeron teams if we dont have jiaoqiu?
She’s fine but Jiaoqiu will always be Acheron’s BiS support.
I think if you are looking for a jiaoqiu replacement..I recommend pela or black swan
her e1 can make a e2 firefly feel like e6
I don't know man just a single target weakness break efficiency buff doesn't seem worth it
@@ShoXpress That would be a great point but Firefly with her obscene speed kinda does more than everyone else combined by a longshot, especially if you have e2, which I don't have, but sure would like it.
@@ShoXpress it stacks with ruan mei and is applied twice on a e2 firefly there is no other way on getting more other than a e6 firefly.
Fugue give way less superbreak and break effect than HMC so not that better than HMC for FF
I don't man... considering HMC 100% super break and the extra damage boost... You have to know that the damage boost varies based on the no of enemies you are facing... The more enemies there are the less the damage boost becomes... And also you shouldn't underestimate Exp toughness or the cloudflame luster in fugue case...
Hmc give a lot of break effect too and can equip watchmaker and most of the fugue buff are for only one character(without e6) which is kinda sad in break team. HMC has minimum 120% SB and maximum 160% when she only give 100% and her ult is kinda useless before e2... After all that I'm not saying she's bad either it's just that for FF the exo toughness it's not that good because she dosn't have any mechanic who work on that (unlike himeko, rappa and boothill) and it can troll you if another character break it before her (after that you are in the same situation than with HMC but with way less buffs).
I need Herta. But I want Fugue cuz my Firefly is my most invested in dps currently and I effing hate my harmony trailblazer's animations.
Well that's enough reasons to pull for her...
@@ShoXpress Pull yes, but I will save at least 130 pulls for herta, which I actually have (barely). So Fugue gets what I earn until then, but no more.
i dont have any 5 * break dps so should I go for firefly or fugue or skip both for 3.0
if you have ruan mei, go for firefly. fugue can be replaced w/ hmc so I wouldn't pull for fugue.
Remember is u want to use hmc over fugue then u can't use rmc
I say pull for Sunday and save for aglaea. She will be rlly fun to play. If u don’t have firefly don’t pull fugue vise versa. But then again if you really want a character then go ahead and pull 🥰
I would say just skip. If you aren’t tied down to break at all rn, just move on from it.
if you dont have a break team go for the new summon meta, the break era is over
Does the weakness break efficiency from e1 stacks with ruanmei?
yes
Yeah it does
@@ShoXpress it's a shame that it locked behind eidolon, otherwise I'll pull for her instead of Sunday, I can only afford 1 copy without lightcone, since that break efficiency will further boost boothill resulting in faster clear
fck im not have RM, is fugue work with hmc like RM tho?
Yo man why does everyone want a replacement for Ruan mei... She had two banners by now... And fugue is meant to replace HMC not Ruan mei...
@@ShoXpress sad, im return from retired in patch topaz
Anothers dps don't work with Fugue ? And Luka LC don't work with her ?
My recommendations are based on easy builds... If you can get both the effect hit rate and the break effect... Then sure... Also Luka LC is great only when it's atleast S3
MUST HAVE BLADE COME ON RERUN IM NEW :C
If you are new, you sure you want blade... I mean if you like him then sure go for him
@@ShoXpress Im a whale dont worry
@@ShoXpress 5months in i already have 3 e6s1 5 stars (dhil/acheron/Aven) BUT MY GOAT IS BLADE MY KING IS BLADE I WANAN E6S5 ONLY HIM
will she work with Acheron tho? since she is Nihility
It still depends... Because acheron wants two things, nihility and debuffs... Fugue is nihility but she only has one debuffs... Unless you get her signature LC
Not related to Fugue, but may I ask. Which does more damage?
> Standard FART team: E0S1 FX, with E0S1 Topaz
> BARF team: E4S1 Bronya, E0S1 FX
It still depends on the team, if you are considering Robin and aventurine... Then I'd say topaz and feixiao will have more overall team damage
@@ShoXpress Thanks! Cuz at the moment, it seems that the only team resisting the power creep is FUA. I've got the Aven and the Robin, and an E6 Moze. Just waiting for the FX rerun...
(btw, regarding The Herta, how do you think she'll fair against that memory zone meme boss? Or Aventurine/Kafka boss?)
What about acheron team? she's nihility right?
She is nihility but she doesn't have that many debuffs... So jiaoqiu or pela or silver wolf and black swan would be still better
@@ShoXpress You mean she can't charge acheron ult?
@@ShoXpress forgive me for being pushy cause I wanna know if I should save up or just get my acheron to E2 now cause she'll be gone for another year. and you seem to know a lot about fugue and I wanna know. can she charge acheron even on basic attack or not? I have firefly but acheron is my main and I'm f2p
real gigachads play her with lingsha dps xD
HELLLLL YEAH
still a better combo than with FF 🥲
This guy doesn't know how what he is talking about + Gold scam is trashy.
😑
7:12 Bro cooked too hard, fugue cant proc the 4pc watchmaker set
Aaaaa... The first mistake... Alright that was my bad... I'll add a pin comment about that...
I have a question if firefly has 160 speed and fugue also has 160 speed. Who starts first and who starts second? I'm asking because I don't feel like farming artifacts for 1 speed difference anymore.
If she doesn't have an action advance in her kit to attack before FF, I'd use Vonwocq on her like most people did on HMC. Holding your FF's Ult is a DPS loss.
i think in those moments its the character with higher base speed takes the lead
@@MorluG thx
@@meliho27 It makes sense if it's true I'm disappointed. thx
Her technique can advance however in overworld without technique spd goes to decimals so fugue may be ahead by a decimal or two, make sure you account for fugues base speed and trace speed and if fugue is also running cavalry its not a bad idea to swap pieces around