Their romance was so much fun because it didn’t feel forced. He’s actually likable and just a strong enough individual to counteract her usual domineering nature without being overbearing himself.
Sadly, I do not have a lot to offer anatomically OR academically. Probably why I don’t have a girl and dr Doppler does. You don’t HAVE to have both like Doppler does, but you DO have to have at least one or you’re up the creek
I like how they didn't make her a stereotype. Based on that intro they could have made her a typical, cold military type, but in the very same scene she displays humor and an openness towards new people.
It also has a lot to do with the way Emma Thompson brings the character to life. Emma Thompson has that unique type of dramatic style, which for this character, she presents a very arrogant but genuine character you fall in love with.
Even better because,I bet you get mind is 100% fine, and she's just telling him something she's thought for a while, but didn't want to say because of her image.
As a kid, I thought she was mean in the beginning of the film but, rewatching it, she never really was. She was just very outgoing and very confident; wasn’t the best at settling herself down when she interacted with others. She was never downright mean
She came off a bit strong, perhaps a little arrogant and occasionally demeaning at times, but you are absolutely right. Overall, she was a very competent, confident individual, and people respected her for it.
@@MoldyMcdonut Anime has also lost the magic of rich Storytelling and settle for panning on 4 frame static shots as much as possible. What OP means, is western 2D animation that has been replaced by 3D in biggest animation companies with their best animators retired. The last of 2D I've ever seen these late years would be "Claus". Which is 2D on top of 3D models.
When Doctor Doppler meets Captain Amelia for the first time, there's a clear difference in their personalities. Doppler's nervousness contrasts with Amelia’s confident and assertive demeanor. This sets the tone for their relationship.
Dr. Doppler is actually a caring, smart individual who just has poor body movement and coordination and a bit inexperienced on the field. the man is quick witted despite his book smart portrayal and the movie showcases his character very well. And I think it is this quick witted similarity that the interaction between these two characters was believable and beloved by fans of the movie
Also, when I was a kid, the minute she did flips on the ship, I knew I loved her character and just didn't know why. Probably didn't learn enough adjectives to express it at the time lol
I didn't really realize how much of a great female character Amelia was. She's strong, confident, skilled but she isn't overbearing or overdomineering. She uses her authority when it is necessary, she listens to advices, and she gives credits where credit is due. Like that scene where Delbert was praising her skills and she dismissed it because she stated how Delbert's expertise with astronomy was actually a huge help.
modern media seems to have forgotten how to write good characters. they confuse strength with being a bitch or an asshole. they think confidence = arrogance. i actually work on ships and amelia is a captain i would feel safe serving under.
@@Chirishman343 Exactly. They think a strong female character is one that dominates, hates, or belittles men. Like you said too, Amelia is one of the few captains who I will absolutely trust my life to. It sucks so much this movie didn't get the recognition it deserved upon its initial release.
@@Chirishman343 You're spot on, I always loathe how the female love interest start out being a total cunt who over the course of the move learns the value of not always being a cunt. In this case Amelia is open to Doppler from the start, despite having an issue with the crew he picked she realises that he has a lot to offer during emergencies. She tries to brush off her injuries to appear strong but listens to him when he tells her not to overexert herself.
Captain Amelia is everything that Holdo in The Last Jedi was supposed to be. Just making a female a massive jerkass who belittles her subordinates doesn’t make her “empowered” or a good leader. This movie got it right, and more should follow Captain Amelia’s example. Kida from Atlantis the Lost Empire is another one. She’s a strong female lead with a well-developed character without the movie having to shove it in our faces. A good leader doesn’t need to constantly prove how ultra tough and hard-nosed they are.
It still bugs me how criminally underrated this movie was when it came out. Also, Captain Amelia is THE template for how to make a good strong female supporting character.
@@michaelbread5906 Yes he is. Ambitious, brave and take no crap from anyone. That’s a strong male in my book. Sure his main role is to be a funny supporting character but he can be strong too.
@@sarahelroub1800 Frankly, I've never understood why Disney thinks romance is bad nowadays. During the Disney Renaissance, they planted seeds in the minds of youngsters healthy tips that would be useful once kids get older. Like how Beauty and the Beast taught girls to make boys earn their affection. Or when Aladdin taught boys that honesty is the best way to impress a girl. But now they seem to think that having a perfect career or a position of power is more important than companionship. Like in that new Peter Pan remake. They showed that Wendy will die childless and alone and framed it as a desirable fate because she had a successful career. And don't get me started on how Disney now thinks that being wisked away by a handsome man is degrading to women. Last time I checked, it was a common woman's fantasy.
I feel it is a character moment for her. In the beginning, she was stern and cold and never allowed herself to be vulnerable. But after she got shot, she had to rely on others for the first time in years. She drew from that and learned that accepting help is not a sign of weakness and she became warmer as a result. As is conveyed by her becoming a mother showing affection for her child. It amazes me that the critics were more impressed with the visuals than the characters. Jim, Silver and Amelia are among the most, if not THE most, emotionally complex characters in all Disney.
5:30 I love how the blond haired baby is smiling at her brother getting the rattle and not her sister. She’s like, ‘That’ll teach you for being a bully!’ 😂
I have a feeling the sister and brother will have a very competitive sibling rivalry. My head canon is that the son will be a great captain/admiral like his mother, while the sister will be a very skilled military medic to follow her dad's footsteps
You know, while I was watching this movie just now, I thought: “huh, this is giving me serious Felix and Calhoun vibes right now”. It could be that the Felix and Calhoun pairing was even inspired (consciously or not) by Amelia and Doppler in Treasure Planet.
Don’t know why but Dr.Doppler reaction animation 1:06 has always stayed with me ever since I first saw the movie. Probably bc it so human. The movie is a masterpiece and deserves more recognition
This dialogue and their animated reactions to one another is so top-notch. Really how Disney films should do romance in my opinion; fun and a collateral of the plot instead of making it the focus.
These two were just perfect! The way they bounced off of each other, how he softened her up while she gave him confidence, Emma Thompson and David Hyde Pierce's performances, it just worked.
Their energy was fantastic, disney is missing out on such an opportunity by not expanding on this universe. On another note, I can't believe I never picked up on her pointing out that the crew on her ship wasn't actually her own, it was one that he picked out, and that's why they were so mutinous. I wish kids were able to pick up on more of those details, or at least I was able to lol
I always noticed that...but freely admit that might be from watching Muppet's treasure island previously where it is made VERY clear the crew was a bunch of pirates hired by the financer NOT the captain
Absolutely, this universe has potential to be similarly expansive as Ratchet and Clank because it leans into the very same kind of Sci-Fi. You can do so much with this if they only wanted to. I still hope that someday someone at Disney will take up the old Treasure Planet 2 concepts and continue the series.
It's a good thing for those of us in the D&D/TTRPG circles that Spelljammer/Starfinder (and other space-based systems) exists, and that the newest iteration is coming around this year
One of my favorite bits was the "did you actually aim for that?" But because as a kid I always thought he was bluffing when he said he did. After all he is goofy and comes off as clumsy and a screw up. As o got older I paid attention to the scene and he really does. You see him notice that they are being overwhelmed, look up and see the big thing and carefully aim, never taking his one eye off his target. And I love that she doesn't dismiss him afterwords, Amelia immediately trusts Delberts aim and tells him to shoot a thin cable that is holding the ling boat in place while she shoots the other. One of my all time fav couples
Exactly what I thought!! She believes him when he tells her he aimed for that and as proof of that he gives him an important task based on the assumption he can aim immediately afterwards!
I'm always kinda surprised there was never a spin-off series of this, a "Where are they now" and "What kind of adventures do they get up to" kind of series, but I can understand why they wouldn't have done so. Doing those spin-offs kind of kills everything that the movie or story was trying to make if it wasn't going to be a series.
Also spin offshore might kill the classic We all want the classic to live even tho it didn't get much attention at first but now it got all the eyes. I remember seeing this as a kid, I think the year it came out or sometime after. But man I love this movie
Check out the game "Battle at Procyon" it takes place right after the movie. Jims been taken into the naval academy and theres a strange fleet of new full metal shipascalled "Ironclads"
@@J_artz_ yeah its fun, It can get kinda hard too because its like a really awkward rts but the stories not bad they refrence the movie a lot...Which I could tell ya more but its been so long I cant remember much at all. Gameplay was fun though, shit tonnes of ships all with customizable gun emplacements, You can choose the crew for your ships and that gives you various stat boosts, Where you click matters for targetting so if youre chasing down a sloop you can shoot out its engines or damage the solar sails.
@@ElricWilliam wow! That actually sounds like a lot of fun! Do you remember where to get the game? I wanna see if I can get it. I'm not a huge gamer but that sounds like something I can do for fun
Considering Disney almost had Doppler be the one giving birth, it gives a whole new layer to her plugging his suit in and the “I’ll do my own plugging thank you” line 💀
What do you mean DOPPLER was supposed to be the one pregnant?! The males of his race are the ones that gives birth???? I thought it would make sense for Ameila to be the one pregnant (Considering, females are built for it, even in animals and Doppler is supposed to be based off a dog) and they had four kids all a once, a litter. Cats, which is what Ameila is based off of, birth litters of around 4 or more. Or less. That's .. funny to think about, about Doppler being the original birth giver 🤣
I love how soft they make her look when she’s a mom and she’s holding her baby boy. Just so loving and gentle as she’s smiling. You can’t draw motherhood better than that.
As a kid this movie was so innocent and fun As a teen this movie became a really cool adventure As an adult all the jokes that went over our head ealier make us laugh out loud to the extent of spitting out our drink and rolling around with laughter.
1:54 OK, I know this is about shipping which is fair, but can we just appreciate the little animation details? When she gets excited, her pupils dilate like a cat's would.
This two gave me the same energy as Kida and Milo,and Anastasia and Dimitri the nerdy bit incredibly brave guy with the baddass girl. Although Disney is trying to make this type of couple, they don't get the same feelings I wish there where a lot more of this dynamic
What I love most about this couple is how they compliment each other without being total archetypes or caricatures Amelia has, at first glance, the tired old "badass action girl who can do anything a man can do, but better" vibe, yet her being authoritative and confident in her abilities works, as she's responsible for a whole ass ship. She wouldn't be in the position she's in unless she actually was a capable commander. Furthermore, she's not shown to be some flawless masterclass individual and actually takes advice from other competent characters in the movie without coming off as inept in the process. She's the lead in her own story, but she still needs support. It's very human Doppler can sometimes get played for the bumbling moron (and the movie does do this a tad too much, imo), but he's still a brilliant doctor who shows his worth throughout the movie many times in subtle ways. Even in those moments where he seems to fall backwards into success, it's not other characters like Amelia or Jim pointing out he had a moment of genius, he realizes and utilizes it himself. In any other movie, he would've been an idiot after he accidentally freed his bindings until another, smarter character figured it out for him and said something.. but no, he immediately recognized what he had done and took initiative. He surprises himself at what a great marksman he is as well. They work together because they're opposites who make up for each other's weaknesses. The confident strategist with a bullishness to her and the brilliant doctor who lacks confidence until dire circumstances show just what he's capable of. The different kinds of intellect they have and the different levels of confidence make them a great team that doesn't step on the toes of the other and yet they're BOTH still fantastic as individuals as well. Fantastic dynamic between two awesome characters who complement each other so well
As a kid I thought she hated him or thought he was useless and in the way but now after watching it I can see that exact moment she started to warm up to him
I just realized she is constantly gathering data and applying it. When Doppler lands on his head when gravity is engaged, she learns she needs to look out for his physical safety. Next scene, “Brace yourself, Doctor.” Later when he aims for the upper thingy and shoots it, she learns he’s a crack shot, and immediately trusts him to shoot out the cable. This trust is rewarded, he’s a crack shot again.
I noticed that when Amelia is with Doppler she seems to let her hair down a lot. With everyone else, she is the stoic and commanding Captain but she goes softer when Doppler is involved. The warm smile is a good hint. Given how intelligent she is, I imagine to her it would have been very refreshing to have someone on a similar level to her. Mr Arrow is all well and good but he was still leagues beneath her. Also, the eyes she gives him when he says they aren't a couple, basically asking 'are you sure about that?' or something along those lines. I think the hug after they escape through the portal is the big payoff, all the stress and action finally over and they can actually appreciate each other and the bond they've forged.
Well it's like they say like father like son, not just personality but also looks, I'm just saying because I'm nothing like my dad in terms of personality but I do look just like my dad, I'm just saying
Stereotypical Disney theme... all "children" in these movies are basically clone copies of their male and female parent counterparts. Gene sharing pretty much doesn't exist.
It’s how their species is built. Captain Amelia and Doppler are the same species but males are dog-like and females are cat-like, so they turned out as expected.
I really like how much 'show don't tell' there is in the animation ESPECIALLY with these two! It's never really 'pointed out' that her pupils dilate when she feels an intense emotion (joy pain anticipation etc.) But their personalities are also displayed in their expressions towards one another. Amelia is playful and well 'catty' in her behavior she always has a smirk or grin with her eyes almost always looking analytical or plotting and her expressions like her shape language and attitude are as sharp as her claws! Yet once she's hurt bad enough and settles down with Doc her expressions are the softest they've ever been. With Dubbler, you see him learn to be calmer as well going from excessive angry rambling to stuttering, to taking over the situation when she is unable to do so yet still maintaining both professionalism and kindness even being playful back with her slightly (for the most part before he freaks out again lol) And finally, the ending I LOVE the ending a small shipping part of me agrees with my boyfriend who was whispering "Kiss... KISS!" next to me when I showed him this but the reveal of them having kids together is just as wonderful in my eyes ESPECIALLY their faces. Dubbler is proud of himself and the wife he has and Amelia is soft and warm with boh her husband and children. As the two dance, their is the same level of playfulness and gentleness in both of their expressions. And to top it all off Morph is using the same BIG eyes he used when Silver told him "keep an eye on this pup" so one of the parents had to ask him to 'keep an eye" on their kids so they could share a dance. Ahhhh so much detail and they just keep piling no matter how many times I watch this masterpiece. (Sory for the paragraphs lol I just love this film so much)
i've actually noticed at 2:41 he DOES aim for that...object. you can see him glance up at it before he fires, and still be aiming at it, being of the line Amelia aims on, so he totally did mean to hit...whatever that was....
5:18 - 5:21 man oh man those children are going to be the envy of everyone, A mother who is a captain and a father with a extremely high level of intelligence and knowledge,Strenght and Brain! Wonderful
wait a strong female character that doesn't feel the need to belittle men, constantly humble brag about how badass and independent she is and who doesn't feel clasical femenine behaviour is weakness?
I love that this film explores a romance between two deuteragonists while the protagonist has his own different business to take care of. Their romance grows really subtly.
I would normally say yes, but time has proven that Disney is infamously bad at sequels with only a number of exceptions you could count on one hand, so if it were done right yes, but since it would be done Disney, I'll just stick with the ones
The sequel I want would never be made by Disney, too much an exploration into the egalitarian and anti-colonial aspects that define a good number of the pirates that were written about in treasure island
5:05 Of all years of being an upstanding, proficient, and honorable Captain while serving in the Military as well as sailing through the galaxy traversing numerous dangers without ever losing morale nor confidence with her abilities, it only took a clumsy intelligent scientist (Doppler) to leave her 😮 by actually snapping back at her somewhat hilariously although he wasn’t trained to commandeer a ship, he can maneuver it just fine and Amelia should at least trust him. The look on her face is a mixture of impressed that he actually stood up for himself against her then shocked since there hasn’t been anyone under her command not even Mr. Arrow that can’t follow her orders without fail nor would they dispute about it but that’s what makes Amelia and Doppler a perfect pair. Amelia is standoffish yet she’s kindhearted and prideful because she’s confident of her talents and skills while Doppler is smart and awkward though his quick decision-making and courage has proven him as a great tactician and genius that can help the crew evade potentially life-threatening circumstances. They just bring out the best of each other.
Can we talk about how in this kids movie the characters have the most articulate vocabulary ever??? Like wow! I wish they kept something like that with newer kid movies. Back then if I was able to understand any of those words I felt so smart understanding them without even knowing what they actually meant by definition, because I would pay attention to the context.
I has a feeling, that Amelia had an affection for the doctor from the start. Yes, she was kinda ruthless for him, but I think, that’s how she actually shows her affection. Maybe Amelia at her own didn’t realized, that fell in love with Doppler
Society chose to move on from this style of animation when it came out, I didn't. I wish the new stuff had soul like I remember. Now everyone wishes we could go back yet most them didn't see this when it came out.
Honestly, their romance is adorable. I like how they both go through their own character arcs as well through their budding relationship. Amelia learns to be a little more humble and Doppler learns to find his inner badass. Also Amelia's expressions are amazing to watch.
There will always be this certain charm with 90s and early 2000 animated movies. I don’t know what it is, hell it could just be nostalgia, but I feel like there’s something more there, something that is missing in most of today’s animations.
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Their romance was so much fun because it didn’t feel forced. He’s actually likable and just a strong enough individual to counteract her usual domineering nature without being overbearing himself.
EXACTLY, he is the perfect match for a strong female character, because he still respects himself
Not to mention a surprisingly good marksman , thin wrist aside the doctor has quite a steady pulse
@@bropil7545 She is not a strong female character, she is just a well written character who happens to be female.
@@allmigthygoddess939 she is strong, she is female and she is a character, I rest my case
@@allmigthygoddess939 of course she is strong female character, great character
My favourite line
"Did you actually aim for that?"
"You know actually I did" 😂😂
If you go back and look at the scene, he was looking up, not down. I went back to see it myself and I was pleasantly surprised
My favourite part is he looks just as surprised as she xD
How to turn a trope on it's head correctly.
I have the bad habit of saying it along with him every time
And he actually did.
"...I have a lot to offer anatomically- "
me rewatching as an adult: WAIT
He meant astronomically jeez!! >////
@@DkKombo Freudian slip >:3
😉
I mean he does later on when they have kids lmao
Sadly, I do not have a lot to offer anatomically OR academically. Probably why I don’t have a girl and dr Doppler does.
You don’t HAVE to have both like Doppler does, but you DO have to have at least one or you’re up the creek
I like how they didn't make her a stereotype. Based on that intro they could have made her a typical, cold military type, but in the very same scene she displays humor and an openness towards new people.
Agree 100%
She also takes every excuse she can to touch Doppler. She's playing with him like a cat with yarn.
@@EGRJ we all know that cats mess with dogs if they know they aren't in danger
That's the beauty of actual millitary men and women. They still have a sense of humor.
It also has a lot to do with the way Emma Thompson brings the character to life. Emma Thompson has that unique type of dramatic style, which for this character, she presents a very arrogant but genuine character you fall in love with.
Her eyes getting wide when she gets excited is everything
Like cats do
@@biancanencioni6279 Cats do be like that tho.
@@ravennalovecraft421
They also like to turn things into bombs and rewind time
@@Minillus 👌😏
and the way her ears go back!!! Such a feline fatale!!!!!
My favorite moment
Amelia, a little lost on her bearings: "doctor, you have wonderful eyes"
Doppler, panicking: "shEs lOsT hEr mINd!!!"
Even better because,I bet you get mind is 100% fine, and she's just telling him something she's thought for a while, but didn't want to say because of her image.
He underestimates himself
@@ladydavinci9914 he definitely does
4:21 "you have wonderful eyes"
4:25 Translation: we are losing her 😂
I bonked my head, what did you expect?
As a kid, I thought she was mean in the beginning of the film but, rewatching it, she never really was. She was just very outgoing and very confident; wasn’t the best at settling herself down when she interacted with others. She was never downright mean
She came off a bit strong, perhaps a little arrogant and occasionally demeaning at times, but you are absolutely right. Overall, she was a very competent, confident individual, and people respected her for it.
Exactly, I'm not mean, I'm just not a pushover like the typical female characters of that time
Well it’s a reasonable assumption she makes her debut by just insulting the doctor. Not exactly all the way to mean I’d say abrasive.
@@stevefilms1997 I was teasing him, Steve, geez 🙄
I really, REALLY miss 2D animation
All the 90s kids I've met do.
Anime bro
@@MoldyMcdonut Anime has also lost the magic of rich Storytelling and settle for panning on 4 frame static shots as much as possible. What OP means, is western 2D animation that has been replaced by 3D in biggest animation companies with their best animators retired. The last of 2D I've ever seen these late years would be "Claus". Which is 2D on top of 3D models.
@@cutecatsara123 id bet you dont even watch anime but uf your looking for things like that watch a silent voice or violet evergarden
@@MoldyMcdonut Agreed, made in abyss, one punch man, jujutsu kaisen & Demon Slayer, etc. Has a badass animation fight scenes.
"I know, I know, will you just let me drive!"
They sound like an old married couple and it's great
The looks she gives him when he screams back. "Did you just scream at me? A surprise....but a welcome one😏"
Her face at that is such a nice detail!! This is the kind of film where you don't want to miss the background!
😂 looking at this scene now I am like: awwwwww they acting like a married couple already 🥰.
When Doctor Doppler meets Captain Amelia for the first time, there's a clear difference in their personalities. Doppler's nervousness contrasts with Amelia’s confident and assertive demeanor. This sets the tone for their relationship.
Hilarious, considering I ended up marrying him after this whole voyage
The interaction when she says "monosyllabic as possible" is perfect and hilarious!
When did she say that?
@@rebeccamichael626 starts at :58
*0:58
"Zip your howling screamer."
And to her credit, every single word she used in the sentence that followed had only one syllable.
Dr. Doppler is actually a caring, smart individual who just has poor body movement and coordination and a bit inexperienced on the field. the man is quick witted despite his book smart portrayal and the movie showcases his character very well. And I think it is this quick witted similarity that the interaction between these two characters was believable and beloved by fans of the movie
And he's a very loyal friend/ companion.
And he is strong enough to not let anyone push him around, not even Amelia. No wonder she liked him.
That and he's cute and I found his awkwardness amusing
As a kid I thought she found him annoying but damn I was wrong cause she wanted this dog from the get go
Haha, I see it! The looks and the unnecessary touching. So funny!!!
I agree
Same and I am more shook about this than I should be
Also, when I was a kid, the minute she did flips on the ship, I knew I loved her character and just didn't know why. Probably didn't learn enough adjectives to express it at the time lol
I saw immediately that she was a cat, but I didn’t realize that the doctor was a dog until later.
Aren’t they supposed to be mortal enemies?
I didn't really realize how much of a great female character Amelia was. She's strong, confident, skilled but she isn't overbearing or overdomineering. She uses her authority when it is necessary, she listens to advices, and she gives credits where credit is due. Like that scene where Delbert was praising her skills and she dismissed it because she stated how Delbert's expertise with astronomy was actually a huge help.
modern media seems to have forgotten how to write good characters. they confuse strength with being a bitch or an asshole. they think confidence = arrogance. i actually work on ships and amelia is a captain i would feel safe serving under.
@@Chirishman343 Exactly. They think a strong female character is one that dominates, hates, or belittles men.
Like you said too, Amelia is one of the few captains who I will absolutely trust my life to.
It sucks so much this movie didn't get the recognition it deserved upon its initial release.
@@Chirishman343 You're spot on, I always loathe how the female love interest start out being a total cunt who over the course of the move learns the value of not always being a cunt.
In this case Amelia is open to Doppler from the start, despite having an issue with the crew he picked she realises that he has a lot to offer during emergencies. She tries to brush off her injuries to appear strong but listens to him when he tells her not to overexert herself.
Captain Amelia is everything that Holdo in The Last Jedi was supposed to be. Just making a female a massive jerkass who belittles her subordinates doesn’t make her “empowered” or a good leader. This movie got it right, and more should follow Captain Amelia’s example. Kida from Atlantis the Lost Empire is another one. She’s a strong female lead with a well-developed character without the movie having to shove it in our faces. A good leader doesn’t need to constantly prove how ultra tough and hard-nosed they are.
@@Chirishman343 (Most) modern media is too busy pandering to various special groups.
It still bugs me how criminally underrated this movie was when it came out. Also, Captain Amelia is THE template for how to make a good strong female supporting character.
Especially when combined with good strong male supporting characters like Dr Doppler.
Doppler is a good character. "Strong" male character he is not.
@@michaelbread5906 Yes he is. Ambitious, brave and take no crap from anyone. That’s a strong male in my book. Sure his main role is to be a funny supporting character but he can be strong too.
They could have done without the robot.
Agreed
“Doctor, you have wonderful eyes.”
“SHE’S LOST HER MIND!”
The best part 😂
"Zip your howling screamer" is an excellent way to tell someone to shut up
i wonder if the use of the word “howling” was meant as a low-key slur since the doctor is a dog-like species
I think it was a slight slur, that scene was the first and last time she ever directly insulted him, lol 😂
@@KBWrecker yes, I meant it as an insult, he was trying my patience and I said something rude as a result
A better romance than most 'modern' movie couples. Certainly leagues ahead of Disney's films the last 5 years.
Modern couples? I thought modern Disney hates romance.
@@vetarlittorf1807 that’s only in their Disney princess movies, they still do romance, it’s just poorly done 😒
@@vetarlittorf1807 rapunzel and Flynn Anna and Kristoff
This was when Disney knew how to write actual strong women.
@@sarahelroub1800 Frankly, I've never understood why Disney thinks romance is bad nowadays. During the Disney Renaissance, they planted seeds in the minds of youngsters healthy tips that would be useful once kids get older. Like how Beauty and the Beast taught girls to make boys earn their affection. Or when Aladdin taught boys that honesty is the best way to impress a girl.
But now they seem to think that having a perfect career or a position of power is more important than companionship. Like in that new Peter Pan remake. They showed that Wendy will die childless and alone and framed it as a desirable fate because she had a successful career. And don't get me started on how Disney now thinks that being wisked away by a handsome man is degrading to women. Last time I checked, it was a common woman's fantasy.
Can we just apreciate Amelias adorable face as she kisses her son on the forehead
I feel it is a character moment for her. In the beginning, she was stern and cold and never allowed herself to be vulnerable. But after she got shot, she had to rely on others for the first time in years. She drew from that and learned that accepting help is not a sign of weakness and she became warmer as a result. As is conveyed by her becoming a mother showing affection for her child.
It amazes me that the critics were more impressed with the visuals than the characters. Jim, Silver and Amelia are among the most, if not THE most, emotionally complex characters in all Disney.
And he would then go out to be the most nervous of the four, the little ginger haired girl is the troublemaker of the bunch
I love how they refer to each other to their titles. Like she calls him Doctor while he calls her Captain!! so cute
At first I knew it was as a sign of respect but then it gets cute as they fall in love 🥰
Everyone is a furry for Captain Amelia.
u rite tho
yes-
No lie spoken.
😏
is it really furry if she’s an alien though ?
Girlboss and Malewife my favorite type of couples, what a shame the sequel never came out It would have been great to see some of their grown children
A shame indeed.
There was supposed to be a sequel!?
@@themightyalpaca313 yep, but they canceled It due to the failure at the box Office of the original film
@@bichi4475 and only years later has it been realised for the masterpiece it is… such a shame
bullshit man
One of the most underrated and unrecognized power couples in Disney's history
The non-Fairy Tale Disney animations always have the best characters.
5:30 I love how the blond haired baby is smiling at her brother getting the rattle and not her sister. She’s like, ‘That’ll teach you for being a bully!’ 😂
she will be the good sister
Omg the middle one being so confused like: “What in the middle child-“
I have a feeling the sister and brother will have a very competitive sibling rivalry. My head canon is that the son will be a great captain/admiral like his mother, while the sister will be a very skilled military medic to follow her dad's footsteps
Morph is sexist confirmed
I wonder if the red head was waiting for the blond to fall asleep to pick on their brother. Seemed like she was watching the blond prior.
"I won't bore you with my scars"
Ma'am that clearly flirting
Little did I know it at the time, but it so was, I didn't know what I was saying,quite frankly
In an alternate world, I bet Amelia and Calhoun from Wreck-it-Ralph would be best friends.
I was just thinking about that!
Omg I couldn’t agree more. and I would love to see it🔥
You know, while I was watching this movie just now, I thought: “huh, this is giving me serious Felix and Calhoun vibes right now”. It could be that the Felix and Calhoun pairing was even inspired (consciously or not) by Amelia and Doppler in Treasure Planet.
Killer queen's with their male wives
She's too tough, I think I'd just dismiss her as a domineering arse who's entirely too tough with those she interacts with
Don’t know why but Dr.Doppler reaction animation 1:06 has always stayed with me ever since I first saw the movie. Probably bc it so human. The movie is a masterpiece and deserves more recognition
I also really like his reaction at 1:02 after she says "mono-syllabic" lmao
Agreed, its one of my top disney movies if you ask me.
This comment has made me want to rewatch the movie and see if I can spot any more of these animations 😂
I love how her pupils dilate when she's excited at 1:54 - just like how real cats would react
That happens with any creature with dilating pupils, including humans.
@@Mark73 But it's more obvious in cats.
@@Nil_Sama yes
and 5:10
People always talk about Lola Bunny as "the awakening" but forget the triple threat of Furry, Mommy Dommy, and *Bri'ish*
*Immaculately Bri'ish*
I'd say depends on decade
Robin Hood 70's
Thundercats 80's
Lola and or Gargoyles 90's
Amelia 00's
@@mousepariah3884 we can't forgot about Mythology like Egypt Mythology
@@fatherpucci8170 I admit I forgot Mirage from Aladdin. But I was sticking mostly to animated examples
@@mousepariah3884 Don’t forget Roxanne, Beret Girl and Silvia Marpole of the 2 goofy movies.
This dialogue and their animated reactions to one another is so top-notch. Really how Disney films should do romance in my opinion; fun and a collateral of the plot instead of making it the focus.
These two were just perfect! The way they bounced off of each other, how he softened her up while she gave him confidence, Emma Thompson and David Hyde Pierce's performances, it just worked.
Espera...¿Emma Thompson era Amelia?.
Dios, debió haberse dedicado a la actuación de voz hace decadas.
he was supposed to gain her respect but he won her hearth, all my respects
And he heart
Their energy was fantastic, disney is missing out on such an opportunity by not expanding on this universe. On another note, I can't believe I never picked up on her pointing out that the crew on her ship wasn't actually her own, it was one that he picked out, and that's why they were so mutinous. I wish kids were able to pick up on more of those details, or at least I was able to lol
I always noticed that...but freely admit that might be from watching Muppet's treasure island previously where it is made VERY clear the crew was a bunch of pirates hired by the financer NOT the captain
Absolutely, this universe has potential to be similarly expansive as Ratchet and Clank because it leans into the very same kind of Sci-Fi. You can do so much with this if they only wanted to. I still hope that someday someone at Disney will take up the old Treasure Planet 2 concepts and continue the series.
It's a good thing for those of us in the D&D/TTRPG circles that Spelljammer/Starfinder (and other space-based systems) exists, and that the newest iteration is coming around this year
I think Disney would ruin it, to be honest.
When I was a kid, I somehow didn’t notice the romance until I was much older.
kids just spawned lol
@@bropil7545 To be fair, in most animated movies they usually do XD
One of my favorite bits was the "did you actually aim for that?" But because as a kid I always thought he was bluffing when he said he did. After all he is goofy and comes off as clumsy and a screw up. As o got older I paid attention to the scene and he really does. You see him notice that they are being overwhelmed, look up and see the big thing and carefully aim, never taking his one eye off his target. And I love that she doesn't dismiss him afterwords, Amelia immediately trusts Delberts aim and tells him to shoot a thin cable that is holding the ling boat in place while she shoots the other. One of my all time fav couples
Exactly what I thought!! She believes him when he tells her he aimed for that and as proof of that he gives him an important task based on the assumption he can aim immediately afterwards!
The best part was that it was always his target. He just ducked for cover before taking the shot.
He was startled, but he managed to do something right for once, that's how I figured out I liked him
I'm always kinda surprised there was never a spin-off series of this, a "Where are they now" and "What kind of adventures do they get up to" kind of series, but I can understand why they wouldn't have done so. Doing those spin-offs kind of kills everything that the movie or story was trying to make if it wasn't going to be a series.
Also spin offshore might kill the classic
We all want the classic to live even tho it didn't get much attention at first but now it got all the eyes. I remember seeing this as a kid, I think the year it came out or sometime after. But man I love this movie
Check out the game "Battle at Procyon" it takes place right after the movie. Jims been taken into the naval academy and theres a strange fleet of new full metal shipascalled "Ironclads"
@@ElricWilliam oh sounds interesting! I actually never heard of it. Where can I find it? Also is it fun?
@@J_artz_ yeah its fun, It can get kinda hard too because its like a really awkward rts but the stories not bad they refrence the movie a lot...Which I could tell ya more but its been so long I cant remember much at all.
Gameplay was fun though, shit tonnes of ships all with customizable gun emplacements, You can choose the crew for your ships and that gives you various stat boosts, Where you click matters for targetting so if youre chasing down a sloop you can shoot out its engines or damage the solar sails.
@@ElricWilliam wow! That actually sounds like a lot of fun! Do you remember where to get the game? I wanna see if I can get it. I'm not a huge gamer but that sounds like something I can do for fun
Considering Disney almost had Doppler be the one giving birth, it gives a whole new layer to her plugging his suit in and the “I’ll do my own plugging thank you” line 💀
wait… What?!
O.o
Certified b r u h moment
What do you mean DOPPLER was supposed to be the one pregnant?! The males of his race are the ones that gives birth???? I thought it would make sense for Ameila to be the one pregnant (Considering, females are built for it, even in animals and Doppler is supposed to be based off a dog) and they had four kids all a once, a litter. Cats, which is what Ameila is based off of, birth litters of around 4 or more. Or less. That's .. funny to think about, about Doppler being the original birth giver 🤣
@@cindypicadomolina7814 maybe it's like seahorses?
Man, didn't know disney was into mpreg but okay
I love how soft they make her look when she’s a mom and she’s holding her baby boy. Just so loving and gentle as she’s smiling. You can’t draw motherhood better than that.
And Doppler looking at his daughters with that kissy face 🥰
“I KNOW I KNOW! WILL YOU JUST LET ME DRIVE?!” That’s the most married couple line
Yep, my parents did that all the time when I was a kid. I was like 9 so I'd just be chilling in the back seat with my DS😂
I really love that she isn't a cold, boring emotional less type of character. She's so fun
Ojalá más personajes militares, sobretodo femeninos, fueran así en lugar del estereotipo del Sargento Hartman.
5:26 I just know that blonde kitty is gonna be best friends with her brother, I mean look how happy she is when he gets a toy
We need more characters like captain Amelia
“She’s lost her mind” will always be my favourite line.
All because she complimented him as apposed to her usual ribbing.
As a kid this movie was so innocent and fun
As a teen this movie became a really cool adventure
As an adult all the jokes that went over our head ealier make us laugh out loud to the extent of spitting out our drink and rolling around with laughter.
Captain Amelia is one of the best female characters to be created, no lie
Thank you, I'm glad you think so
-salutes to you- Respect@@TheCaptainAmelia
@@AngeloGene *nods* well I'll be off then
I just found out about this movie today because of a friend, is it weird that I find them cute?
no
@@user-ManofStyle1 ok thank you
I think most of my generation would find it weird if you didn't XD
not weird at all they are very cute together
You're about 20 years late, but nobody is blaming you.
This ship was shipped on a ship.❤️❤️❤️
AND IT SAILED 😂
I just love that, the moment when she complements him while in pain, he immediately says that she's lost her mind🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1:54 OK, I know this is about shipping which is fair, but can we just appreciate the little animation details? When she gets excited, her pupils dilate like a cat's would.
You can see it when she meets Doppler.
A well written and drawn character.
This two gave me the same energy as Kida and Milo,and Anastasia and Dimitri the nerdy bit incredibly brave guy with the baddass girl.
Although Disney is trying to make this type of couple, they don't get the same feelings
I wish there where a lot more of this dynamic
I think Flynn Rider and Esmeralda in Entangled makes a good one too.
I think them being adults with established careers helps instead of being teens or early twenties
You mean rapunzel right? Esmeralda is from the hunchback of notre dame
Dmitri wasn't nerdy. And Anastasia wasn't badass until the climax. Up until then she was a chill smart-mouth.
Love the fact that they have a full litter of puppy-cats together.
U mean, “puppy-kittens?”
Fun Fact: Both Amelia and Doppler are from the same alien species where the men have canine features and the women feline.
Interesting i didn’t know that
More "strong female characters" like this, not the modern crap, thanks.
The animation on this movie is just so freaking beautiful.
What I love most about this couple is how they compliment each other without being total archetypes or caricatures
Amelia has, at first glance, the tired old "badass action girl who can do anything a man can do, but better" vibe, yet her being authoritative and confident in her abilities works, as she's responsible for a whole ass ship. She wouldn't be in the position she's in unless she actually was a capable commander. Furthermore, she's not shown to be some flawless masterclass individual and actually takes advice from other competent characters in the movie without coming off as inept in the process. She's the lead in her own story, but she still needs support. It's very human
Doppler can sometimes get played for the bumbling moron (and the movie does do this a tad too much, imo), but he's still a brilliant doctor who shows his worth throughout the movie many times in subtle ways. Even in those moments where he seems to fall backwards into success, it's not other characters like Amelia or Jim pointing out he had a moment of genius, he realizes and utilizes it himself. In any other movie, he would've been an idiot after he accidentally freed his bindings until another, smarter character figured it out for him and said something.. but no, he immediately recognized what he had done and took initiative. He surprises himself at what a great marksman he is as well.
They work together because they're opposites who make up for each other's weaknesses. The confident strategist with a bullishness to her and the brilliant doctor who lacks confidence until dire circumstances show just what he's capable of. The different kinds of intellect they have and the different levels of confidence make them a great team that doesn't step on the toes of the other and yet they're BOTH still fantastic as individuals as well.
Fantastic dynamic between two awesome characters who complement each other so well
As a kid I thought she hated him or thought he was useless and in the way but now after watching it I can see that exact moment she started to warm up to him
Same with me lol
4:20 I've seen that scene recreated a few times 😏
I just realized she is constantly gathering data and applying it. When Doppler lands on his head when gravity is engaged, she learns she needs to look out for his physical safety. Next scene, “Brace yourself, Doctor.”
Later when he aims for the upper thingy and shoots it, she learns he’s a crack shot, and immediately trusts him to shoot out the cable. This trust is rewarded, he’s a crack shot again.
I noticed that when Amelia is with Doppler she seems to let her hair down a lot. With everyone else, she is the stoic and commanding Captain but she goes softer when Doppler is involved. The warm smile is a good hint. Given how intelligent she is, I imagine to her it would have been very refreshing to have someone on a similar level to her. Mr Arrow is all well and good but he was still leagues beneath her. Also, the eyes she gives him when he says they aren't a couple, basically asking 'are you sure about that?' or something along those lines. I think the hug after they escape through the portal is the big payoff, all the stress and action finally over and they can actually appreciate each other and the bond they've forged.
"...but I won't bore you with my scars."
Captain Amelia, I'm ready to hear your whole story.😍
It's so cute that the 1 son they have in that litter looks like their dad.
Well it's like they say like father like son, not just personality but also looks, I'm just saying because I'm nothing like my dad in terms of personality but I do look just like my dad, I'm just saying
Stereotypical Disney theme... all "children" in these movies are basically clone copies of their male and female parent counterparts. Gene sharing pretty much doesn't exist.
It’s how their species is built. Captain Amelia and Doppler are the same species but males are dog-like and females are cat-like, so they turned out as expected.
*GO TO THE RIGHT! THE RIIIIIGHT!*
*I KNOW, I KNOW! YOU WILL JUST LET ME DRIVE?!*
They already sound like an old married couple 😂
Cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria!
I really like how much 'show don't tell' there is in the animation ESPECIALLY with these two!
It's never really 'pointed out' that her pupils dilate when she feels an intense emotion (joy pain anticipation etc.) But their personalities are also displayed in their expressions towards one another.
Amelia is playful and well 'catty' in her behavior she always has a smirk or grin with her eyes almost always looking analytical or plotting and her expressions like her shape language and attitude are as sharp as her claws! Yet once she's hurt bad enough and settles down with Doc her expressions are the softest they've ever been.
With Dubbler, you see him learn to be calmer as well going from excessive angry rambling to stuttering, to taking over the situation when she is unable to do so yet still maintaining both professionalism and kindness even being playful back with her slightly (for the most part before he freaks out again lol)
And finally, the ending I LOVE the ending a small shipping part of me agrees with my boyfriend who was whispering "Kiss... KISS!" next to me when I showed him this but the reveal of them having kids together is just as wonderful in my eyes ESPECIALLY their faces. Dubbler is proud of himself and the wife he has and Amelia is soft and warm with boh her husband and children.
As the two dance, their is the same level of playfulness and gentleness in both of their expressions. And to top it all off Morph is using the same BIG eyes he used when Silver told him "keep an eye on this pup" so one of the parents had to ask him to 'keep an eye" on their kids so they could share a dance. Ahhhh so much detail and they just keep piling no matter how many times I watch this masterpiece. (Sory for the paragraphs lol I just love this film so much)
i've actually noticed at 2:41 he DOES aim for that...object. you can see him glance up at it before he fires, and still be aiming at it, being of the line Amelia aims on, so he totally did mean to hit...whatever that was....
1:08 She was so right about the crew.
4:19-4:22 gets me every time. 5:06-5:08 don’t make him 😡. 5:18-5:21 🥰
"Doctor... you have... wonderful eyes..."
*"SHE'S LOST HER MIND!!!"*
Favorite scene of the two of them 😂😂😂😂
"I have a lot of help to offer anatomically...uhhh...astronomically...." FACEPALM. XD I see what you did there, Doctor.
"I won't bore you with my scars!"
No, please, elaborate. I'm sure the Doctor would LOVE to see them.
I'm sure he did. They had 4 kids after all😏
“Doctor…you have…😻wonderful eyes😽(passes out).
“😳😵💫She’s lost her 😱MIND😱!”
My vote for the most hilariously romantic moment ever.
"WE MUST STAY TOGETHER AND WHAT?!?!"
"doctor you have........wonderful eyes 🤤"
" 😧 SHES LOST HER MINDDDD"
The doctor got the finest chick in the whole movie lel
5:18 - 5:21 man oh man those children are going to be the envy of everyone,
A mother who is a captain and a father with a extremely high level of intelligence and knowledge,Strenght and Brain! Wonderful
And if they're ever picked on, their mother is gonna turn up to the school in a flash.
@@amyartlover Dont mess with these kids...or you would pay the price!
wait a strong female character that doesn't feel the need to belittle men, constantly humble brag about how badass and independent she is and who doesn't feel clasical femenine behaviour is weakness?
I love that this film explores a romance between two deuteragonists while the protagonist has his own different business to take care of. Their romance grows really subtly.
Anyone else want a sequel, or is that just me?
Hell yes, but only if it had been years ago. Disney world just screw it up these days. Make it fully 3d or something.
I would normally say yes, but time has proven that Disney is infamously bad at sequels with only a number of exceptions you could count on one hand, so if it were done right yes, but since it would be done Disney, I'll just stick with the ones
It should've at least been put in a KH game.
The sequel I want would never be made by Disney, too much an exploration into the egalitarian and anti-colonial aspects that define a good number of the pirates that were written about in treasure island
They don't write them like this anymore...
5:05 Of all years of being an upstanding, proficient, and honorable Captain while serving in the Military as well as sailing through the galaxy traversing numerous dangers without ever losing morale nor confidence with her abilities, it only took a clumsy intelligent scientist (Doppler) to leave her 😮 by actually snapping back at her somewhat hilariously although he wasn’t trained to commandeer a ship, he can maneuver it just fine and Amelia should at least trust him. The look on her face is a mixture of impressed that he actually stood up for himself against her then shocked since there hasn’t been anyone under her command not even Mr. Arrow that can’t follow her orders without fail nor would they dispute about it but that’s what makes Amelia and Doppler a perfect pair.
Amelia is standoffish yet she’s kindhearted and prideful because she’s confident of her talents and skills while Doppler is smart and awkward though his quick decision-making and courage has proven him as a great tactician and genius that can help the crew evade potentially life-threatening circumstances.
They just bring out the best of each other.
Judging by the four children at the end, turns out he DID have a lot of help to offer anatomically
😏
A humanoid cat and a humanoid dog, marrying each other, cute! 😊
Can we talk about how in this kids movie the characters have the most articulate vocabulary ever??? Like wow! I wish they kept something like that with newer kid movies. Back then if I was able to understand any of those words I felt so smart understanding them without even knowing what they actually meant by definition, because I would pay attention to the context.
That moment when you give it a rewatch and you find out Captain Amelia is voiced by Emma Thompson.
No wonder she radiates pure sass!
How does she have gloves AND exposed fingernails?
Because
You seen Ren and Stimpy? Stimpy wore gloves amd his fingernails were on the gloves....cartoon logic.
Because she's Captain fuckin' Amelia, that's why!
I mean she's a cat
Maybe those are her claws and she poked them out the glove
CARDI B!
She be into him from the get-go !
1:40 I think that’s the moment she started to ‘like’ him. ❤❤❤
She thought "goddammit, he's dumb but he's cute"
I has a feeling, that Amelia had an affection for the doctor from the start. Yes, she was kinda ruthless for him, but I think, that’s how she actually shows her affection. Maybe Amelia at her own didn’t realized, that fell in love with Doppler
She is sassy but not ruthless. I think she apreciated how he was strong enough to don’t let her push him around.
Funnily enough, they are actually the same species. Canonically the names are dogs and the females are cats.
I absolutely lost it when he was carrying her. So cute lmao
Jim’s not the main character of Treasure Planet.
These two are.
2:17 That slap. Iconic.
Dr. Doppler: "I have a lot of help to offer anatomically, anamonically.. as--astronomically." *Face Palm
Wakko Warner: "Goodnight everybody!"
Society chose to move on from this style of animation when it came out, I didn't. I wish the new stuff had soul like I remember.
Now everyone wishes we could go back yet most them didn't see this when it came out.
Back then I wasn’t a furry, or a pirate…… Then I watched the movie treasure planet.
Honestly, their romance is adorable. I like how they both go through their own character arcs as well through their budding relationship. Amelia learns to be a little more humble and Doppler learns to find his inner badass.
Also Amelia's expressions are amazing to watch.
I actually can't believe they had kids in the movie!
Doppler at 1:02 is me. All the time.
If Disney dared remake this they’d ruin this natural and charismatic coupling in a heartbeat.
5:18 the far right baby has lipstick?
no, it's just how alien kittens can be born sometimes.
There will always be this certain charm with 90s and early 2000 animated movies.
I don’t know what it is, hell it could just be nostalgia, but I feel like there’s something more there, something that is missing in most of today’s animations.
"oh this is nice i loved that ship when I was a kid, how old is this video--"
*5 months old*
fandom.... never dies...