Axial Ryft Rock Racer Bashed & Broken - A Holmes Hobbies Professional Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- Get an Axial Ryft they said, it will be fun they said. Well the new Axial Ryft qualified for John's interest as it's an off-road RC rig meant to go through the rocks so he picked one up for the Holmes Hobbies collection. Instead of going through the usual unboxing and features mumbo-jumbo, he skipped right over that and went out to the backyard for some exciting action. In this video John will talk briefly about some of his thoughts on the rig and then starts to take if for a rip only to find out it's a handful. Then just minutes later, things will go bad. How bad? Well you of course need to watch the video to find out!
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Everyone pointing out this is a "bouncer" and not a "racer" ... this rig can't handle either out of the box so does it matter what color lipstick we put on the pig?
No it does not. Axial sucks now and this rig is proof. Pure bullshit
Takes about $500 just to make it so it doesn’t break and another $300-$400 in electronics.
I think it has more potential than the Wraith but it should have been released as a kit not an RTR. This was a pure money grab my Horizon and they screwed a lot of newcomers to the hobby. I love my Ryft but knew what I was getting into when I got it. I knew it would be getting more than it’s worth in upgrades. This will be exactly what I wanted when it’s done.
Lol. Truth
Put both! and all the brass! Diff covers, knuckles, axles trusses, beef patties, lower and up shock ends, links, bumper mounts (you'll have to add or make bumpers), and wheel weights. Then machine some custom brass drive shafts, and finally a brass driver figure ought to cover it!!!!!
"You go fast, you win stupid prizes!!!" 🤣🤣
I actually really love my ryft. I own a couple crawlers and rock racers. I feel like this has more potential than my bomber for an all around rig in my area where i have flat out ground and lots of rocky hills to bomb. Dial in suspension and fix the front axle and its a pretty fun rig.
I love my Axial RYFT. I did have issues with it like others but hopefully they start sending out the updated axles and such. I run mine mostly 2 and 3s.
Wow, someone finally tells the truth about the Ryftoff. Lol
I was so excited, a new vehicle? The rypffft? .... womp womp womp
Yes exactly. I’m one of the fools that fell for the ryft commercial. Had it for two months and it’s spent more time waiting for parts then enjoying it. Rod ends. Bent shocks. Snapped axels. It’s junk!
It is what it is. It does put a smile on my face every time I drive it. And a rear sway bar helps out too
After watching this for months now I am glad I followed some good advice never buy the first edition of anything. So now doing research I can build one for a few bucks more than the RTR and actually be money ahead and have a real rock racer/bouncer . Thanks for the real review.
Hehe awesome review! It's basically falling apart after 15 minutes of driving :D I ain't getting that thing anytime soon... but hey I'm more of a crawler guy anyway. Thanks, John.
A long sleeve button down shirt with cargo shorts....it’s good to be classy!
A good servo saver is a must for this one. It's my favorite trail RC by a country mile.
both myself & my 12yr old own this rig. his is bone stock minus the center spool i threw in it & mine runs a mambax and puller pro v2 off a 2s 130c along with a small handful of upgrades. it is an awesome rigif you use it as a hill killer. start using it as a basher or hitting shit at full speed is not what this is intended for. my only complaint is a sensorless systrm & open diffs on rock bouncer is stupid but its worth every penny imo.
It's a fun vehicle and is crazy capable but... not out of the box. Gotta mod it, check those diffs and make sure the ring gear bolts are tight, mine weren't so tight and that leaves them a bit too loose inside and they strip out fairly quickly if they aren't checked. Over the big pond the low 1st gears are out for the 2-speed, maybe we will get them soon here.
I put the HH Puller Pro R 540 L- V2 2100 KV motor with a Mamba X and it has way better slow speed control.
Also the JEC racing aluminum lower arms and sway bar from FB Ryft member JW. Locked the center diff with an Axial spool and it’s quite a different beast now.
WOW did you just come out of your big wig corporate meeting!?!? It is always great to see your take on rigs. Your insight is very helpful. Thanks brother!!!🤘🤘🤘
For $500.00 it should survive what it was intended for. Part failures out of the box speaks volumes about quality control and marketing. I'm new to RC and qualified dangerous with tools but when you put a hefty price tag on it I would expect more. Good review.
I can understand people buying this that love real rock bouncers and want one in an RC. I got the Losi Lasernut. It is incredible on trail and I do control the bounce to get it to the top a couple rock peaks I usually crawl on. BTW: Thank you for your awesome motors!!! Much appreciated 🙏
Finally an honest review of this rig. Im glad someone did it. The first time i saw the thing running in its promo the only thing i could say is damn look at that torque twist.
I agree, Not a pod promotion for once! I thought if it came out in a kit I may be enticed. But think for my next build I’ll get a Gmade Buffalo🤷♂️
Good choice...you will love the car!
As for the torque flex... I tightened down the passenger front shock and loosened up the driver side. Rolls tilted until you gun it, and it straightens out with all 4 on the ground.
That was awesome.. It broke two different parts in 5 minutes
I bet this guy would baja a Lamborghini. I've had one for 4 years, no broke parts. It's how you drive it.
@@stevencox9691 How can you have owned one for 4 years when it only been out for a couple of months?
@@Enduroger your right, I've owned a yeti, (an axial) treat it right, it will last
@@stevencox9691 I consider this mild to lame driving with some very light tumbles and yet it broke. No thank´s.
Leave the shock bent, it’ll help with your torque twist issue 😉
I think you just saved me a whole lot of money. Horizon will hate you for it, but I SUBBED to your channel for it.
Always honest reviews 👍🏻👍🏻
You love that blade you found in that package I never see you without it lol 👍✌️✌️
@little harold lol thanks
An RTR crawler will need many if not all the parts replaced with upgrades for higher performance. I've ended up with crawlers that are only axle housings and transmission and otherwise all upgrades. I don't see this as anything less then a typical RTR. Add in the sway bar, upgraded servo, and two speed, and it should hold up to light duty hill climbs very well.
I just built 2 custom all metal 2.2 trail bouncers sensored brushless with your trail master sport 3100kv they run great on the trail with plenty of wheel speed for hill climbing 👍I don't need or want a Ryft, great video & honest review have a great weekend John 😉👍
Folks, I read so many reviews complaint this thing breaks easily. Ryft is a rock crawler/bouncer. "It is not a basher and was never designed as basher". For me, Ryft is a rock crawler on steroids. If you treat it as such, you will like it.
It's just standard axial junk . After the 10ii it went down hill
Don’t take this the wrong way, but, to say that cold weather is the reason they break axles, is a pretty lame excuse. I was out running mine the same day as everyone else, in the same places as everyone else, yet no one else broke axles and they were jumping farther and higher than me. I’ve replaced front and rear axles, plus the servo saver broke, a shock shaft broke, and the rear plastic trailer arms crack through where Axial put the holes for adding the metal stiffeners. Pretty sad that stiffeners were made available on release, even in the parts manual. If they needed stiffeners from the get go, then they did a crap job. Also, front and rear differentials went out on the second day. If only the spools and everything else wasn’t on backorder. But yes, they really are fun when not broken!! Just gotta figure out how to keep from breaking the main things that no other rig seems to have problems with.
That car had a lot great ability, speed for bash and power for crawling, cool
I appreciate your thoughtful review. Very interested in seeing how it goes with the diffs, sway bar, and electronics tuned the way you like. Looking for 2.2 hill climber!
this is a rock bouncer so it will be perfect for that, but i would recommend getting a sensored system and all the vitavon metal parts for it. so might as well get the kit
I love disc golf and rc trucks we have much in common
I used to have my rc truck pull my disk bag and water in a wagon out at the course
Initially I was deciding between this and the Capra. Capra it is for sure.
I wish traxxas would develop a rock bouncer/racer. It would hold up
Who the hell wants to go slow with a rock bouncer?! Nice video.
your right!
Definitely sticking with my Bomber for my 'go fast' rig. Just need to save up for a 4100r and the 2 speed parts for the trans.
“AVC” is a game-changer for a mustang like this.
P.S: I like the speed. I like the cage design. What is the alternative? Sensored with closed diffs please.
I used to be interested in this but having to drop $200 on a better power system + reinforced or better axles out of the box doesn’t interest me
Can't wait to see it as a crawler
I'm 95% sure this comes with a spectrum system in it not a hobbywing but I don't own one so you would know better then me. Edit after looking into it I had no Idea Hobbywing made Spectrum. I learned something today . seems like I do every time I watch your videos.
This is a rock bouncer not a rock racer
Are these trucks designed to work flawlessly at the kitchen table. It's a 100 100 design. 100 minutes on the kitchen table or first 100 feet on flat smooth surface outside.
Spring started a month past
Lots of hate here ...just cuz you have it.....seems premature (they be Jealous?)
Its fast. It could be the servo protector. But it doenst handle very well on gravel.
Mine took a few crashes. But it did finally brake in 2 places.
I love the matter of fact review
I want one but spending 5 bills on one and then all the extra on upgrades gets crazy. Almost like buying a boat. Bring On Another Thousand!
Oh my God that thing is a monster
Great review, thanks for posting! Still love the rig but not for the mayhem I put RC truck in, lol.
You got an awesome yard! Big enough for frisbee golf and bashing along with a nice pile of rocks for crawling. Thanks for testing this guy...I was curious, but the torque twist seems too much for me.
Disc golf!
Hey John, I'll wait for the kit if you think the new quiet revolver and esc combo you're working on will be a good match for this rig, I'll be 50/50 crawling and bashing. Thanks for all you're doing for the hobby!
I think a Puller Pro would be a better dit. Somewhere around the 2700kv area 🤙🏻
I like the idea of the ryft but has to many problems needs to much money put into it right out the box thanks for your review
I would love to see it be able to super slow crawl through the rocks.
What Sensored Brushless system would you setup in it to keep the speed but get the low speed control?
you know it's spring time in CoMo when you smell wild onions when you go offroading. 8)
Here he comes, here comes the racer! [Ba-Ba-ba, ba-be-dada!] He's the Demon on wheels! 🎶 LOL. Sorry, lost in an old 90's Techno track from high school. Doesn't seem a bad rig for what they got going, but def looks like it'll be pricey for upkeep.
Look up "TV Speed racer techno mix (clean version)" if curious and want a laugh. :-)
I hope they offer this in kit form one day.
Good video... glad I didn't get sucked into the hype of this thing... I like our crawlers and scalers... even my daughter's Bomber... and I really want an Element Gatekeeper next... but this thing is NOT my cup of tea...
Hope to see more great HH videos and products in the coming future...
The GRYFT - current cost $1400+
I put another $600 into upgrades before I made it through a charge without breaking something.
Not to mention having to do a complete teardown to be sure diffs were full, gears greased, lash set correctly, and drive shafts synchronized. Basically a crappily pre-assembled kit.
Replaced shite Servo with Reefs RAW500. Then there is the crap ass discontinued dx3 radio and reciever that looses binding. All replaced.
Not buying another Axial product in 2021
@@GrimJerr So you're happy with it?
@@Art-zs6sl After I spent the money I better start loving it. Actually after all the work and $$$ you couldn't get me to part with it ! YEAH CRAZY AS F@CK
Ya just earned my future views, my Respect & top consideration for future purchases. Axial is trash out of the box, requires another couple hundred $$$ to get it to the level it should have been out of the box. Trash RTR’s but very few point out their flaws.
It would be so cool to see you turn this into a dedicated crawler, most likely with a Magnum Motor :)
I assume rtr sensored systems may be a customer service nightmare for newbies not familiar with sensor wire failure as well as not being able to switch wires for motor rotation like a non- sensored.
Would be cool to see you at the king of Missouri comp in a few months
I bought mine specifically to bin the cage and electronics and use the running gear to build my own vehicle, it will be a 6.6 scale defender 110 Rock Crawler but not mental stuff,
Realism is my thing.
It’s going to be big and heavy but I don’t want speed, just low speed control,
Gearing down is difficult on this and I think the lowest pinion is 14t with no option for Larger spur gear.
Will my Mamba x and Holmes Puller Pro 2200kv be ok to power this weight if I can build a bolt-on gear reduction box to take the gearing down to give a top speed of around 10mph?
Some one has a chip on his shoulder for axial, 100 vids of them getting the crap beat out of them and you break it in the grass🤔
I would like a set of those tyres.
Can you send them to me after 3 runs when the rest of it will be in the bin please?? 🙄
Oh so snazzilly dressed lol is that word 🐱😀 Mr holmes just made it so 👍
Thanks for killer video and the professional opinion. How do you think it will do in the rocks once you get the two speed gear set, I mean if Axial ever releases it lol
As soon as I seen this on the market I knew it was built to sell parts. Axial should stick with going slow,with the noisy transmissions and leaky shocks, and weak plastic.
Haha good one
the wheels coming loose has been the biggest headache for me...
Is there a way to fix a 2s lipo that has a wire come off the balancer plug. Not the plug itself but the wire connect to lipo. Inside.
I’m pretty easy on it basically treat mine like a tough crawler so I don’t really jump it or bash to hard but I rough trail drive and mines been pretty good
I love my ryft, but I would like to make it more of a crawler that can go fast when I want it too. But not nearly as fast as it is out of the box. What motor and esc would you recommend?
Thanks to your kick ass motor (4100KV 540 L) my TRX6 does 25 MPH with bone stock driveline all the way to the stock pinion gear. I beat the living shit out of that truck and still haven't broken any drivetrain parts. I mean I jump it 20-30 feet all the time and on pavement it straight up will drag the bumper wheelieing from a dead stop, and I do it way too much because it makes me giggle like an idiot. Lol. My point is, not all fast trucks break all the time due to speed. The only weak points I've had to issue is upgrading the front suspension to handle jumping. Stock shocks, just better mounts. This truck is freakin bullet proof. I also have several trucks that never make it through a full pack without breaking. Like my Yeti.... I still love it though.
And yes, it crawls fantastic in low gear with a MambaX tuned according to the Holmes method and sensored of course. It's like butter and the drag brake is way more than necessary. That motor has completely blown my mind! Bravo John!
How much was it
Too much torque twist to interest me.
looks designed to destroy itself
You might of also got the revised axle material.
but people around Oregon around 40 degrees on release where snapping them within 5 minutes.
hard pass from me, money grab.
Still love HH
Being in Missouri, do you throw a lot Dynamic Discs?
Just a few. Only an enforcer right now
It seems normal that the thing can't be driven without upgrades. Pretty poor planning and design.
On the contrary. Purely done so with the purpose to force people to buy extra axial parts to get the thing half-way drivable. Basic 'Marketing 101' thought-out by beancounters and "it's just business" -vultures. In Short: Horizon Hobbies.
Profit is always in the spare parts, not in the base car. Those are usually sold at a bit of a net-loss. That goes for real cars as well as RC toys.
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Florida weather here, and they still break easily. For anyone who likes it, good for you, but this one overall is a bad release....
I like the rig!! But want a sensored system in it. What motor do you recommend?
2100 puller pro L
Yeesh. Easily breaking new rig in the first 15 minutes. It's like Axial is the New Old Traxxas. Customer asks LHS owner....."what do I need for spare parts to go with my new Ryft?". LHS owners grabs another new Ryft of the shelf and say's, "here ya go".
But thats the thing its not a rock racer. Its a bouncer ment to gun it and hope for the best up a steep hill, not so much crawler racer style need for sensors. And besides if you made a 3300 kv 6 pole for it everything would be awesome and no sensor wire.
Don't forget a rear swaybar.
Dig the frisbee golf pins you got, to bad about the Ryft
If anything needed selectable lockers and a 2 speed transmission....
I think it is a rock bouncer, not rock racer?
What would you do to make it a crawler John, would appreciate a great thoughts
Don't. Buy a wraith or capra
Buy new brushless motor for crawling (holmes hobby) and buy diff lockers for the front, mid, and rear and basically you have a wraith and a Capra. I one a wraith and the axle on the ryft is longer, maybe a inch or inch hlaf longer?
It’s not a rock racer it’s a bouncer for climbing steep inclines.
What a pile of crap. It’s not really that good unless you upgrade it. I expect a little upgrading but not as much as this thing needs. I’m getting a bit sick of the built to the price idea of some of these manufacturers. we want something that is what it says on the box! Upgrade for more performance then fine, upgrade because the dumb thing breaks when you sneeze then no thanks.
It's not even really a rock racer. It's a hill basher. Look up mad ram 11 or similar. It's a rock basher. I've had mine for a while now and I haven't broken anything other than stripped diff gears. Epoxy fixed that though. Mine also has a puller pro 2700kv and I only use 4 and 5s. It's a monster!
Thanks, you just saved me 500 bucks 😜👍💩
You'd think Axial would have seen what a misguided effort Redcat's Wendigo was and put better thought into the Ryft. The motor/ESC combo is sh*t, and if you drive it as intended it quickly and repeatedly breaks. It took Exocage RC $300+ in Vitavon aluminum axles, reinforced suspension links, anti-sway bar, four rear shocks, and several brushless motor ESC combinations until his Ryft became drivable and halfway reliable.
Sorry Axial, I don't buy $500+ RC trucks that require an extra $400+ simply to perform as designed.
That's cause horizon stuck it's grubby money hungry fingers into axial. Axial use to be damn good and we're damn near indestructible as rtr's but now they are trash.
Breaks easily but it's fun when it's not broken.
I think you would of liked it much better if you ripped it around some dirt and loose gravel.
That is NOT how full-size 1000+ horsepower rock bouncers are driven. You don't need to spend $500 for a scaler/ripper to spin donuts on flat loose gravel. I'd shudder to imagine what little expectations you must have and how quickly you will lower them if it came to a broad.
Looks like Axial built another yeti. Looks good but falls apart.
Hear me out, lock the diffs, lower kv sensor motor, slap 1.9 wheels. This could make a a good crawler! Lcg!
I wish I would have seen this video one year ago lol
I drove my buddies ryft and broke 3 of the rod ends, lol, but the rod ends are bigger then most replacement parts other axials own parts, and I cant wait to get one myself, 4s is way more fun then 3s on these trucks
Had high hopes for this one but seems to be a swing and a miss