Thank you for the updated test. Your evaluation is really complete and thorough. I'm waiting for mine to arrive and your input is greatly appreciated !
After 175 miles I can say that level 1 pas works very well for my style of riding, helping to make the trip feel as level as possible. I avg 10 mph and am not a power rider, rather I am in the game for exercise and exploration and this bike helps me get a nice workout without causing too much stress on my heart, one that has been vegging in the lazy-boy for too many years. I do use the higher modes, especially on the way home from more daring excursions, and find auto mode to be very flexible and easy to control depending upon the type of pedaling one uses. The front leaning rest position took a bit to get used to, but now I prefer it and feel it to be a powerful angle for "digging in" and transferring muscle power to the wheel. Battery life is amazing and power delivery is smooth and predictable. I love the bike and hope the spare battery shows up as advertised.
@@williamquick1326 thanks for the information. Glad you are liking it. I feel very much the same. I hardly use eco or higher, eco+ is plenty of power for me. I really enjoy the bike and one charge usually gets me through a whole week of riding. I have considered a bar with more bend, doing so might cause me to be in a more upright position. Not a bad thing just different from the slight forward lean it has stock. I have really been enjoying my wabash rt this week.
I have had my Crosscore RC for about six weeks. I bought this bike on the current Yamaha sale bash for 1199.00 + tax. That includes the 3 year warranty extended to 5 and the extra free battery. These are my mileage test results. Echo- 68 miles, Standard 40miles and Auto 43 miles. I didn’t test Echo + or High. Conditions were wind 15 mph gusting to 23 , flat to slightly hilly,rider 5’-11” weight 223 lbs in cycling gear. If you look at the distance reports that Electric Bike Reports did, you have to consider the rider weight was 175 lbs. I don’t recall them mentioning wind. In my area the average daily wind speed is 12.2 mph. So my distance results are based on 48 lbs extra for the rider and probably higher head and cross wind speeds. Thanks your reports and insights.
@@trekmobile7521 great to see someone else’s real world range results. Thank you so much for posting them here. Those numbers seem very close to what I would expect. I am about 6ft 210lbs usually wind is low here, but as of late wind has been a significant factor in my rides. I tend to write off the elevation I ride. Mostly because to me it would seem that most commutes have similar variations of terrain. Though when I rode the bike on flat ground it made a difference in range in a positive way for sure.
The Cross Core RC's front chainring is 44T, but this is not suitable for tough hills. Battery drain is also high. Given the bike's characteristics, 36T is best as it is more like a gravel bike.
@@InfiniteMishaps I ordered a 36T front chainring. I am looking forward to seeing how much it will improve my hill climbing ability. I am going to verify if I can climb even in eco mode.
@@InfiniteMishaps I've attached a 36T chainring and tried a hard steep. I got done with eco mode, which was great! Even a normal steep is no problem even with plus eco mode.
Great review. I just bought one off of your review and just received it. I can't seem to get a water bottle cage to fit it - did you mount a water bottle cage to yours? If so, would love to know what you purchased. Thanks!
@@DavidAnderson-se1or I have not attempted this yet. I would think the bosses on the down tube would accept a water bottle cage as that is what they are meant for. That and perhaps a range extender option that never came to market.
Great video. Can you suggest a quick remove/attach solution for the front wheel of RC? I want to carry my bike in the trunk of the car, where it will fit easily if I remove the front wheel. Very interested to see if this is possible with a quick release.
The guy at the bike store had to show me. While unscrewing the front tire quick release push in the other side. He talked me thru the back wheel as well but two things, he said I'd have to undo my added back rack first to get enough access (not a big deal), and there is a magnet, for the odometer I think, that is easy to break when taking the back wheel off so to be careful if necessary (ex. flat tire).
@@treefity350 I think I mentioned it. I know I have talked about it in some of the other video on this bike. It’s definitely not bad, I didn’t like it at first. Mostly because I was riding it at full open (0clicks). It’s got 14clicks of adjustment and once I put it at 7clicks I was good to go.
Do you think this bike could handle the same Knob Hill terrain that you rode on in your offroad wabash video? I also bought the crosscore RC and would like to convert it to more of a hardtail/gravel. Thanks.
Why would they put thinner tires on a gravel bike? Im glad i got the crosscore instead of the wabash. While i was waiting for my crosscore to show up i bought a deepower fat tire dual battery 55ah 48v dual shock and a 2k watt motor for 1120 shipped from ali express. Its suppose to have LG batteries. The batteries alone are worth half the price of the bike. Zero reviews on utube rolling the dice on this one.
I noticed a slight slippage feeling from the motor while riding my CrossCore in 9th gear. I was wonder if that was expected because of the akward chain angle or adjustment is needed. Did you experience anything like that while riding in 9th gear?
@@runnershigh7467 yes I have the same thing happening to me. I believe it is the limiting screw. I haven’t looked at it yet though. The limiting screws are what should keep it from going too far and ending up off the cassette. Mine if ridden and shifted aggressively to 9th will push the chain past the ninth cog. It’s done this to me twice. It’s not far off on the adjustment. I imagine a half turn or so is needed on the adjustment screw.
I ordered this bike with the free battery deal. Now apparently that deal has ended but it has taken weeks and I'm only now getting my bike. If they don't honor the deal, I'm returning it. Not right to yank that out...let's hope they do the right thing and honor the batteries for those who bought under that promotion when active.
@@mountaincat23 thanks for reporting this. Hopefully they will honor the deal for you. When I bought I kind of figured I wouldn’t be getting a second battery (figured they’d say they ran out or something). I have two bikes so I can battery swap between the two as needed.
The battery tray is badly designed I have the same problem, it stays on for a while but a single bump on the road and it'll pop out just a little but it's not dangerous it'll not completely open the tray nor the battery because it's on a separate lock, but it's rather annoying because of course you want to keep the battery space clean. Otherwise fantastic bike imo. Get a velcro strap for 3€ to tie around he battery tray and frame problem solved.
Thank you for the updated test. Your evaluation is really complete and thorough. I'm waiting for mine to arrive and your input is greatly appreciated !
After 175 miles I can say that level 1 pas works very well for my style of riding, helping to make the trip feel as level as possible. I avg 10 mph and am not a power rider, rather I am in the game for exercise and exploration and this bike helps me get a nice workout without causing too much stress on my heart, one that has been vegging in the lazy-boy for too many years. I do use the higher modes, especially on the way home from more daring excursions, and find auto mode to be very flexible and easy to control depending upon the type of pedaling one uses. The front leaning rest position took a bit to get used to, but now I prefer it and feel it to be a powerful angle for "digging in" and transferring muscle power to the wheel. Battery life is amazing and power delivery is smooth and predictable. I love the bike and hope the spare battery shows up as advertised.
@@williamquick1326 thanks for the information. Glad you are liking it. I feel very much the same. I hardly use eco or higher, eco+ is plenty of power for me. I really enjoy the bike and one charge usually gets me through a whole week of riding. I have considered a bar with more bend, doing so might cause me to be in a more upright position. Not a bad thing just different from the slight forward lean it has stock.
I have really been enjoying my wabash rt this week.
I have had my Crosscore RC for about six weeks. I bought this bike on the current Yamaha sale bash for 1199.00 + tax. That includes the 3 year warranty extended to 5 and the extra free battery. These are my mileage test results. Echo- 68 miles, Standard 40miles and Auto 43 miles. I didn’t test Echo + or High. Conditions were wind 15 mph gusting to 23 , flat to slightly hilly,rider 5’-11” weight 223 lbs in cycling gear. If you look at the distance reports that Electric Bike Reports did, you have to consider the rider weight was 175 lbs. I don’t recall them mentioning wind. In my area the average daily wind speed is 12.2 mph. So my distance results are based on 48 lbs extra for the rider and probably higher head and cross wind speeds. Thanks your reports and insights.
@@trekmobile7521 great to see someone else’s real world range results. Thank you so much for posting them here. Those numbers seem very close to what I would expect. I am about 6ft 210lbs usually wind is low here, but as of late wind has been a significant factor in my rides. I tend to write off the elevation I ride. Mostly because to me it would seem that most commutes have similar variations of terrain. Though when I rode the bike on flat ground it made a difference in range in a positive way for sure.
@@trekmobile7521 any racks, panniers, or other upgrades in mind?
The Cross Core RC's front chainring is 44T, but this is not suitable for tough hills. Battery drain is also high. Given the bike's characteristics, 36T is best as it is more like a gravel bike.
@@user-shinha interesting thought, if you try it and get better climbing ability and range let us know.
@@InfiniteMishaps I ordered a 36T front chainring. I am looking forward to seeing how much it will improve my hill climbing ability. I am going to verify if I can climb even in eco mode.
@@InfiniteMishaps I've attached a 36T chainring and tried a hard steep. I got done with eco mode, which was great! Even a normal steep is no problem even with plus eco mode.
@ awesome!
Nice job. Thanks!
Great review. I just bought one off of your review and just received it. I can't seem to get a water bottle cage to fit it - did you mount a water bottle cage to yours? If so, would love to know what you purchased. Thanks!
@@DavidAnderson-se1or I have not attempted this yet. I would think the bosses on the down tube would accept a water bottle cage as that is what they are meant for. That and perhaps a range extender option that never came to market.
Great video. Can you suggest a quick remove/attach solution for the front wheel of RC? I want to carry my bike in the trunk of the car, where it will fit easily if I remove the front wheel. Very interested to see if this is possible with a quick release.
@@ethanhu7048 the front wheel is quick release. No tools required. Although you do have to pull the pin all the way out. It’s not too bad though.
The guy at the bike store had to show me. While unscrewing the front tire quick release push in the other side. He talked me thru the back wheel as well but two things, he said I'd have to undo my added back rack first to get enough access (not a big deal), and there is a magnet, for the odometer I think, that is easy to break when taking the back wheel off so to be careful if necessary (ex. flat tire).
Nice review! I just got one delivered today! Can you recommend a good phone app?
@@DanGarrett23 strava is good for me
Did I miss it or did you not talk about the fork? I hear it isn't good but with the current sale this bike is very enticing regardless.
@@treefity350 I think I mentioned it. I know I have talked about it in some of the other video on this bike. It’s definitely not bad, I didn’t like it at first. Mostly because I was riding it at full open (0clicks). It’s got 14clicks of adjustment and once I put it at 7clicks I was good to go.
Do you think this bike could handle the same Knob Hill terrain that you rode on in your offroad wabash video? I also bought the crosscore RC and would like to convert it to more of a hardtail/gravel. Thanks.
@@JJ-tv5pc Im certain it could handle survive it, but it wouldn’t be ideal at least with the current tires.
Why would they put thinner tires on a gravel bike? Im glad i got the crosscore instead of the wabash. While i was waiting for my crosscore to show up i bought a deepower fat tire dual battery 55ah 48v dual shock and a 2k watt motor for 1120 shipped from ali express. Its suppose to have LG batteries. The batteries alone are worth half the price of the bike. Zero reviews on utube rolling the dice on this one.
@@gregorybolin4672 the tires on the wabash are typical size for a gravel bike. Hope you enjoy your bike you ordered.
I noticed a slight slippage feeling from the motor while riding my CrossCore in 9th gear. I was wonder if that was expected because of the akward chain angle or adjustment is needed. Did you experience anything like that while riding in 9th gear?
@@runnershigh7467 yes I have the same thing happening to me. I believe it is the limiting screw. I haven’t looked at it yet though. The limiting screws are what should keep it from going too far and ending up off the cassette. Mine if ridden and shifted aggressively to 9th will push the chain past the ninth cog. It’s done this to me twice. It’s not far off on the adjustment. I imagine a half turn or so is needed on the adjustment screw.
What’s top speed
@@captain4219 I’ve gotten it up to 28mph on flat ground. 30mph going slightly down hill.
I ordered this bike with the free battery deal. Now apparently that deal has ended but it has taken weeks and I'm only now getting my bike. If they don't honor the deal, I'm returning it. Not right to yank that out...let's hope they do the right thing and honor the batteries for those who bought under that promotion when active.
@@mountaincat23 thanks for reporting this. Hopefully they will honor the deal for you. When I bought I kind of figured I wouldn’t be getting a second battery (figured they’d say they ran out or something). I have two bikes so I can battery swap between the two as needed.
The battery tray is badly designed I have the same problem, it stays on for a while but a single bump on the road and it'll pop out just a little but it's not dangerous it'll not completely open the tray nor the battery because it's on a separate lock, but it's rather annoying because of course you want to keep the battery space clean. Otherwise fantastic bike imo. Get a velcro strap for 3€ to tie around he battery tray and frame problem solved.
@@j11k00 agreed it’s a little annoying